Will any game ever be able to recapture the feeling of playing something like under-tale yell-ow for the first time?
>>721841254Is it bittersweet, knowing that the community that formed around this game when it released will never return?For me, there's been a few good threads this year, but nothing like the hype around the first few months.
What if it was all a dream...?
Loved the demo, almost Undertale-tier. I wish there was something like it.
It's 2025 and roba is STILL the worst mother
>>721846080>inb4 TorielAt least Toriel has some chance of being called out or having a redemption arc. For Ceroba, this is it. She has no redemption arc because this is all that you're getting.
Partners Chapter 12, Full Draft: https://pastes.io/partners-chapter-12-full-draft(Full work on Ao3 under the name Cobalt_Core)Been a while since I caught a /v/ thread in timely manner. I got some feedback in /vrpg/ that this one was a tad edgy at times and I plan to turn it down a bit. Any other criticisms before I post to Ao3? Anything you like in particular?
>>721847492Why is it on pastes.io instead of pastebin?
>>721848412pastebin has been censoring stories with certain keyworks
>>721844735Undertale Yellow if it was released in 2010
>>721841254hey thats the first new axis art I've been able to grab from these threads
reminder that ceroba is fat
>>721846645>>721846080her redemption exists in the game in that if you choose to spare her life, you must trust and IMAGINE that she moves forward learning from her mistakes and realizing the weight of having let another child die
>>721846645this guy's shading could use work
>>721846080Frisk really dodged a bullet by not ending up anywhere near her
>>721846645Her redemption is through creating another child (with my penis)>>721849591For me the problem is his porn is mostly comms with other people's OCs
>Game's fanbase is obsessed with misery porn and fluffy mothersNice
>>721846645>At least Toriel has some chance of being called out or having a redemption arcNo she doesn't
Post (You)r Underfell Yellow ideas NOW
>>721850730>going to his altthere's your problem
>>721844735This will be me soon if my life continues falling into shambles
>>721841254I still haven't played Yellow, but I hope people will like my fangame as much as they liked it, whenever its actually released that is.
>>721851561I'll see you in 7 years
>>721851225I just want that guy to finish Frankenstein Complex. His is the best UFY take I've seen.
>>721851609You'll see me next week. I'm in every fangame thread and in the /vrpg/ threads.
>>721851225Fellroba will divorce Chujin for a nondescript human male (it's a canon event)
>>721851621sauce?
>>721851767It was a rentry he posted in a thread a few months ago. I don't have the link. I think I have it saved as a txt though.
>>721851225Dalv is a conspiracy nut that thinks everybody is out to get him because he spared the blue SOUL
>>721851763No, even with the worst version of Chujin she still has oneitis.
>>721853141UFY chujin is the same but he was recognized by asgore instead of being a failure (ignore the writing on this image)
>>721846645>>721850730Furry NSFW artists can’t draw
>>721853658for some reason that guy's best looking pic is of fat ceroba
>>721853421Can you imagine the kind of horrible things Chujin would do if everyone around him fed his ego and the king gave him a blank check to develop whatever he wants?
>>721851225>>721853421It’d be interesting if Fellroba’s motivation to kill Clover was that so she could absorb his soul and kill Asgore for executing her husband and then cross the barrier to free monsterkind and subsequently become monsterkind’s new ruler.
>>721854361He becomes furry Walter White
>>721854373What if Felroba wants the soul so she can win her husband's attention back, because he's been so absorbed in his work he hasn't even spoken to her or Kanako in weeks.
>>721854628Who would be Jesse? I know Alphys would be Gale.
would fellnako be yandere or closed off?
>>721854642Chujin and Kanko still being alive in UFY is a good idea, would make Chujin and Ceroba more sympathetic even if they’re still terrible people.>>721854729Martlet I guess? She’d be easily manipulated into following Chujin’s orders. If we’re still talking UFY I don’t think Felllet is actually evil and is just faking it to fit in. It’s just not in Martlet’s nature to be cruel even in the AU where everything’s fucked up and evil and red.
>>721855228a very good UFY take has them alive and I think most anons agree its better if the entire ketsukane family is alive
>>721855117Definitely an obsessive yandere who hides her emotions
I wanted to say this surge in ufy discussion must have come from the stream but yall were already talking about this for a few weeks ahead of time what do you know that you aren't telling me
>>721856519>few weekslook at the dates of these greens >>721855325 >>721856514
>>721856807I know it was a thing before, im saying theres been a surge in discussion very recently
>>721841254Some related fangame news this weekDreemurr Reborn's tumblr posted something for the first time in over a year to celebrate its 10-year anniversaryhttps://dreemurr-reborn.tumblr.com/post/795505517768376320/man-ten-years-ten-whole-years-and-i-didntGame is still never ever
What is everyone thought on the UT Yellow reddit disintegrating right before our eyes....
>>721857576>redditI stopped checking it months ago when the OCs took overit was only a matter of time before it fell apart
>>721857576as much as it would be nice for reddit to fuck off, its just as there as it ever was
>>721857576what happened? i dont care about that site enough to check myself.
>>721857672Fair, some are ok, but a majority of them is just someone self insert and it really shows.But what really brother me most is how OOC they treat many characters, but Chujin get it the worst. I know there a lot of people there that just hate Chujin, but it just getting ridiculous. And the worst part is I think that majority of them are just angry that chujin married Ceroba and not Starlo or worse their OC.
>>721857962one of the mods was apparently underage and the sub had a meltdown over it (this was also after that cuck series' author got banned several times)the sub owner hasn't made any comment, which only caused the redditors to meltdown even more
>>721858362so its not just irrelevant news related to reddit. its unironic underage b& irrelevance related to reddit. I've hired this bird to stare at you
>>721858362my thoughts on this lie somewhere between "thats it?" and "why is a 13 year old a moderator?", but its reddit so extremely shitty verification is a given which means my opinion is ultimately "thats it" and "you should go back"
>>721841254Think we'll get fangames for the other souls that's on par with this?
>>721858591many surfaced after yellow released, but as expected 90% of them are already deadpretty much only cooking with kindness (green), symphony and promise (blue) and naranja and wildfire (orange) are still going and have a higher than 0 chance of being completed
>>721858591thats a tough one, not to disparage the dev-anons, but yellow was far from the only fangame that was in the works, just the only one of its scope that survived. its really a shot in the dark imagining if anyone attempting something on the same scale will finish it. I also think a lot of people aim for shorter experiences to make completing it more feasible
I just want a fangame about the war after the 10th anniversary lore nuke....
>>721858841there is one in the works but the dev said he did not like the new lore and will probably ignore it
>>721855228So Chujin goes to Martlet and says "We to build robots, Martlet."
>>721858718>green, blue and orangeDamm, the situation with the cyan and purple fangames is really that bad?
>>721859470>purplenearly non existent, there was one called UT reflection, but it rebooted like 5 times (pic related) and is now called UT futility and is still in limbothere is a purple take that is mixed with a blue one that has a demo but it is pretty barebones>cyanthere are like 4 or so cyan fangames in the works from what I remember but all of them are still in early stages, and I think one or two just not having updates in a while
>>721858718and out of those you mentioned only promise has a decent chance at being finished since it has a pretty small scope and has already released a demo
>>721848412Precisely what this anon >>721849078 said. I literally couldn't use it anymore.
>>721856519That UFY is kino, and there's a writefag in here holding out on us. Gimme my damn edgekino
>>721858252At least Shu didn't call Chujin evil for the crime of marrying his waifu.
>>721856519thread every weekendgo to /vrpg/ for info
>>721858718>>721858591Wildfire seems to be doing pretty well. I give them high hopes of at least delivering a good demo soon.
>>721858841You'll get one, but its not using the new lore since I wrote it before that stuff, and Toby said I can imagine whatever I want.
>>721857576>r/UndertaleYellow’s downfall started when Starobafags wanted to make content demonizing ChujinKek
>>721858761>not to disparage the dev-anonsFinishing Oldentale is one of my main reasons to live, which I'm realizing is a pretty fucked up thing to say now that I say it out loud, but that does mean I'm very dedicated to finishing it in some form eventually.Currently working on walk cycles.
>>721860895Chujin's ghost gets his revenge.
>>721861121I have faith and hope, just speaking in a broad sense, but the stuff I see in the dev discussions is inspiring to see the effort people are putting into their games>>721860593I know, again just saying this specific topic has spiked in popularity recently
It's been a while since the pregnancy anon's been around, hope he comes back soon.
>>721862503he got too many chicks pregnant and has to work 4 jobs to pay child support
Reminder that Kanako should change color after she gets DOMESTICATED by Clover/Cole
>>721862503I’m the pregnancy anon now. Bend over
>>721863034What is this a reference to?
>>721863380To the actual domesticated foxes.
>>721863070Not if I impregnate you first.
>>721860895Not sure we're ever going to get an update, but what chujin did seems wildly out of character for him and I'm hoping that ceroba tanked the attack meant for starlo. Then again its very out of character Ceroba to sleep even drunk with starlo in the first place. Side note, but the chujin lawyer should would have declare judicial bias and mistrial since Asgore is heavily involved in Chujin firing for emotional reason.>>721861193image the reaction if you did
>>721863034she is brown forever because of the incidents when she was a kid mutated her and her fur never changed color, like that magikarp in the pokemon animeand that's a good thing because brown foxes are rare and I really like it
DRYanon2 here.no update, but that may change soon as my rimworld save is slowing down and i've got nothing else i want to play after that.now give me green ideas.
>>721851767A summary of it got posted a couple threads ago
>>721864040>trans hairpinoh no
>>721863961>youSorry to disappoint you anon, but I am not a seven foot tall purple fox.
>>721864914
>>721865025How long have you had this image without noticing that?
>>721865118I'm not the poster
>>721864914fuq I never noticed that when I uploaded it to the original threadnow I kind of regret holding onto it for so long (that was in my folder for like a year)
>>721864379Kanako can't contain her autism and derails a dragonblazers thread into fetish discussion (the other posters may or may not be Noelle and Alphys), Clover watches in disgusted fascination.Alternatively, if that's too weird for your tastes, Cole finds out Chujin is over a hundred years old while looking through family photos with Kanako.
>>721864379UT alternate timeline where everyone is very slightly too late in the pacifist route to stop Frisk and Asgore from fighting, and they all arrive just as the final blow of the fight is struck and one of them is killed.Whichever one that is, I'll leave up to you.Alternatively, the same idea, but for UTY. Clover somehow confronts Ceroba in New Home by themselves, and Martlet and Starlo only arrive just as the battle ends, and sees one of them die.
>>721864040Nah, fox kits are usually naturally brown. That being said, she's a half-coyote
>>721865710She's brown because its the logical combination of orange and purple. Monsters operate on memes, not genes.
>>721864379Ceroba seeing Kanako again in an AU where the amalgamates behave like the Flood from Halo, as in, actively hostile and assimilative.
>>721866042Don't write this one.
>>721866125What's the matter, don't want the foxes subjected to the horrors?
>>721867174No, I don't. We have enough of those already.
I have made great sacrifices in my life to draw kanacole
>>721867584Impossible, everyone loves the horrors.Maybe what you need is new and different horrors.
>>721867614what did you draw anon
>>721867614What did you sacrifice? Did you reject your humanity?
>>721868191
>>721868191I didn't know vampirism helped with art skills
>>721857507I still want to rail cheerie
>>721867740a couple of things I like trying to figure out humanoid stuff>>721868191i have neglected drawing on magma boards I frequent and I rarely have enough energy to draw outside of my days off
>>721868721we were ROBBED>>721868863that's a cool art
>>721857576good, decent art stopped being posted months ago
>>721858841>it felt strangeis this about him dating humans in the past?
>>721841254>Will any game ever be able to recapture PICREL?I am befuddled how you chucklefucks managed to get a general going here. Generals are bad enough, but one for a mediocre fangame is way beyond me. Having a castful of Donut Steeles is so comically indulgent I don't know what to say even. Nipponese kitsune extra boss monsters.
>>721869251I wonder how all the pre chapter 4 gerson fans feel about him now
>>721869316>stop it stop it now stop talking about videogames on the videogame board!!!nope, sorry anon. we WILL continue talking about the videogame.
>>721868943I actually saw dreemurrreborn post something on tumblr a while back for the 10th anniversary. I don't think there was an update on the game, but they are indeed still alive.
>>721868943So what was the lore of Dreemurr reborn? Is Asriel still walking around with Chara's soul?
>>721869424>I wonder how all the pre chapter 4 gerson fans feel about him nowAs Joseph Stalin said: "We will envy him."
>>721869474it is one of the first ever AUs, where frisk gives his soul to asriel at the end of TP ending so he can live without reverting to flowey (at the cost of frisk ceasing to be)but frisk still lives in the soul and they have shared control over asriel's body (but in actual sync unlike chara)the game had a few things ready for it before the dev abandoned it
>>721869316The donut steels will continue until morale improves
>>721869628So why are they still in the underground?
>>721869824some monsters probably chose to remain underground probably, or it happens in the surface idk I haven't read the comic in years
>>721869962that pompadour guy looks like he'd be a darkner made from a hammer
Damn, I guess /v/ went to bed early tonight.
>>721870695the threads always slow down at these hours, just post stuff you wanna talk about
I had an idea for my fangame, and I've had it long before the anniversary stream, that at some point you would be in a city and there would be a bar you would meet one of the cast at, and this bar is called "The Bone Zone". Its a skeleton bar that serves nothing but milk based beverages. When you interact with the door it says you peek inside and plays a super bit crushed clip of Bad To The Bone.I need to somehow include 500 skeletons in the flavor text for that scene.
>>721871162bouncer NPC outside that says>sorry pal, bar's full. when a some of the patrons leave you can enter.on retalk,>maybe when about five hundred of em leave we can let you in.
>>721871162make a lost and found bone area with flavor text remarking there's enough bones for 500 skeletons
>>721871443I also would really like to have the player go inside so I can really include a bunch of one off background gag skeletons, but that would mean I can't do the door gag. Plus there's no way I could actually draw 500 skeletons.Maybe I could have a smoker's lounge outside with a lost soul from doom lookalike, a ghost rider lookalike, and single skeleton smoking a cigarette there.
>>721871725simply have 500 skeletons leave the bar at some point in progression so that when the player comes back they can enter.
>>721871693there's a bone ball pit for them to leave their baby bones in while they go in to drink.
>>721871443When a couple of hundred of them leave, eh?
>>721871162I'm just gonna keep seeing this image pop up every now and then, huh?
>>721871796That's a good idea. I could still have the smoker's outside though for that added visual gag. Plus I can stick one of my main characters in there since he's a skeleton that smokes.
>>721871881Its all me doing it. I find this image infinitely funny. Somehow skeletons are still funny despite all the shit the fandom has done with them. Maybe even because of it.
>>721868943>mfw most of dreemurr reborn came out in a 1 year period between 2015-2016>mfw there's been no update on the game since 2018>mfw there will never be an explosion of cheerie fanart
>>721872012Be the change you want to see.
>>721865447>Cole finds out Chujin is over a hundred years old while looking through family photos with Kanako.alright,>K: "hey cole look, i found an old photo album">C: "oh cool">the two look through it for a little bit>until they get to a black and white photo of chujin >C: "haha wow this one looks old. think that vintage camera is still in here?">K: "oh... that was taken when those kinds of cameras were still in style.">C: "what? no way">K: "uh huh! i forgot his explanation but daddy's really old.">C: "but he doesnt look a day over 30!">K: "yeah thats the crazy part, i know he explained it but i cant remember. sorry man, you'll have to ask him yourself"
>>721869436Your ilk are so obnoxious. I didn't even tell you to go to /veegee/, spare me the high and mighty attitude. This thread has fan AU nonsense and reddit drama mentioned, what legs do you have to stand on? There certainly was legit game discussion circa the release date, but that time has clearly passed. As with most autistically overdone topics, there just isn't enough shit to talk about, not at "recurring thread" pace anyway. Nobody is under any illusion about the ABSOLUTE STATE of the board, you don't need to bring up other generals, just like you don't need to justify your own existence. But don't pretend as if this is the last stalwart den of TRUE and HONEST vidya discussion.All this playground-tier BUT HE STARTED IT finger-pointing between generals and janitors boils my fucking blood.
>>721872610didnt read, sorry. we will keep talking about videogames
>>721872012someone will just have to reclaim her from the dead waifu zone
>>721872314I say this not as an insult, but with the sincere hope that you improve. Is that it? Come on man, if you're gonna write greens you've gotta spice em up, make them fun. You're writing these like a chat bot would. No surprises, no conflict, no twists, just to the letter what was requested with nothing added. The point of taking green requests is to take the requester's idea and spin it into something new and unique that even surprises the person making the request.
>>721872740look man its like getting wishes from a genie, sometimes you get exactly what you ask for, sometimes you're stuck staring "5 million doll-hairs", and other times your best friend gets turned into a crab.tonight, im both not really feeling it and still riding an annoying cold.besides what kind of twist would i even add to "cole finds out chujin's over a hundred years old"?i mean what am i supposed to do. do you want me to just make cole murder chujin for being a vampire?
>>721873174make something like chujin appear behind them and scare them and comment how he remembers about that time he took the pic or somethingthis is something I thought just now
>>721873245i need you to understand that you're asking me to "add a twist" and your example is a 'surprise twist' so common that its used in jokes about marvel tier writing.
>>721873552better than nothing
>>721873552not that anon, I generally like the little greens you drop. sometimes you do end them a little abruptly but at the same time its a greentext, its kind of a short form thing isn't it after all?
>>721872012>Dreemurr Reborn>Ask Frisk and Co.>Handplates>Zombietale>500 sans AUsAll those ask blogs will be lost in timeLike tears in rain...
>>721873741yeah sometimes i just dont know where to go with them, just that simple.
>>721873174A young Cole thinking Chujin is a vampire could be really funny. He keeps trying to catch Chujin in front of a mirror to prove it to everyone else, tries to get him to eat garlic, is constantly afraid of him drinking his blood, thinks he's finally safe back in his house, hears a knock at the door, but then relaxes when he remembers vampires can't enter your home without permission, only for his heart to sink when Martlet invites Chujin in, and then finally the whole thing ends with Cole remembering his school teacher is a vampire, and that he's actually nice.If you wanted to play it off a simpler way. Cole just makes a bunch of connections to Chujin's age and his habits, and all the weird things about him start to make complete sense. His dress and house? Those may be old fashioned now, but 100 years ago that was the norm in his home country. His views on humans? All old men are racist, that's just how it was back then. His insistence on collecting and repairing ewaste, refusing to throw out anything, even if it would be much easier to replace than fix? He spent most of his formative years in the great depression, you had to be frugal back then. Even his name could be a really common kitsune name from 190X.
>>721873552You could have Chujin pretend to have PTSD over his brutal life in Imperial Japan when Cole asks what life was like back then. Then Cole gets uncomfortable and leaves. Then Ceroba says that wasn't a nice thing to do, while Chujin can't help but snicker. Chujin says "Looks like this old fox has still got it." to which Ceroba replies "quit it with that already." She says, playfully pinching him. Then she looks at the photo "still, the resemblance is uncanny. Hard to believe you and your grandfather look almost exactly alike." with Chujin still grinning while he looks at the picture.That has ups and downs, a bit of drama, some laughs, and an air of mystery at the end. Was it all a joke, or is that man in the picture really Chujin?
>>721874816>>721875267hmmmmg.many ideas, much inspiration. but the disease saps my creative energy (the remainder was spent here >>721871443)sorry everyone, the greens will have to wait. i'll be saving the thread and going back through all of it later, hopefully next week.keep putting them in though, gimme a backlog for next time to make up for this week.
>>721873741My complaint comes from a genuine love of the craft of green writing. I really like reading and writing greens. They're my favorite form of short form story telling.>>721873989Fair enough. I've had my share of situations like that, where I didn't know where to take a request, but with those I would rack my brain maybe for hours until I found something, and then wrote that. I'm probably just taking all of this way too seriously. They are only greens.You have fun writing what you want to write, don't let me drag you down.
>>721873786Handplates ran for years and then ended and now Zarla has been working on a Spamton comic for a few years now.
>>721875518I didn't mean to run you off, anon.
>>721873552Not any of the other anons but I just think your greens lack energyOld greens/ideas had this uncontrolled energy from anons who collaborated to discuss things like Martlet's breastmilkI remember you started posting around 2024 so I know you were there when it happened
>>721875609nah its not you, the creativity is just stuck tonight.maybe when about 500 germs leave my body the creative juices can flow to the green ideas instead.
>>721875683Are you sick? Well I hope you get well soon.
>>721875678i contributed my fair share of deranged greens back then as well, been here since day one.
>>721875678The zenith of all breastmilk. What would it taste like though?
>>721875550>My complaint comes from a genuine love of the craft of green writing. I really like reading and writing greens. They're my favorite form of short form story telling.I get that, just offering a little different perspective on it myself. I like the more drawn out greens that some anons drop as well, but sometimes its just snippets like a snapshot of a life we can only imagine the greater whole of. I think this is the same anon that did the stories of soulless clover going back through the underground if Im not mistaken?
>>721875918You can still do interesting stuff in a short green. Its harder to do, but I think that's what makes it great.
>>721875782nothing major, im more annoyed than anything because its taken my creativity from me.every night a fever dream, those are usually my richest sources for ideas. and not one night has resulted in "i need to write this down before i forget"
>>721875916Someone once mentioned that it would taste like blueberry I never had it saved because I stopped saving posts after mid-2024
>>721876397Martlet's is blueberry. Kanako's is chocolate. Would Roba's be orange cream?
I remember when people considered this image shocking.
>>721876687>let mommy traumatize you for lifeits always funny
>>721869962If it's post-pacifist, with Frisk and Asriel, why is there even a possibility of fighting? Neither would want to kill any monsters.>>721872012It really has been so long…
>>721876687I dont think anyone on this site would consider this "shocking"
Who is the best waifu?https://files.catbox.moe/ol9l2h.png
>>721876687We need more stuff like this if these threads are going to survive.
>>721877793It doesn’t happen in the underground btw. It takes place in The Void™ which is where Gaster is supposed to beAlso, what’s Fatz been doing these past 7 or so years? He mentioned art school, but hasn’t said anything about the game’s state of completion
Man, slow thread.
>>721879171we really don't
>>721846645>At least Toriel has some chance of being called out or having a redemption arc.Maybe on planet stupid nigger. Specially in Undertale itself where all you can do is imagine™ that she was called out at some point. 7-2 btw and that doesn't count the dozens if not hundreds of dead monsters.
Reddit killed these threads.
>>721883594It's the only way.
why does this bitch hijack the plot from this point I don't care about your obviously dead child stop trying to trauma dump
>>721885858>obviously dead childKanako isn't dead, she's just One'd.
Is it any good?
>>721886573The hell is this, I've never seen this mod before?
>>721887065Ceroba dies Kanako lives. A demo dropped yesterday.
>>721887198Huh.That sounds like the kind of thing that would be right up this place's alley, where's the demo?
>>721872012Haaru did some art
>>721887690it is on gamejolt
>>721883827No it was all me
>>721851225>>721851763Fellroba paws>>721853421Felljin paws
>>721886573Haven't played it yet, will give it a look later.
who was in the wrong here?
>>721872012another dead monster waifu to the pile
>>721891789The one doing that stabbing
>>721892475tbf Flowey is here after intense save scumming only to be brought back to square one I'd kill her too
>>721891925Oh she's been dead for a long time
What if this happened?
>>721893617ALT + F4I have severe skeleton fatigue
>>721893617Delete the game
>>721895016>>721894534Sounds like a you problem to me.
>>721891789MasterSword for enabling more blue-haired-moe-girl abuse in fiction
>>721876687I've read far more shocking things than that. Pic unrelated
>>721893617I respect the dev team for giving every major UT character a cameo except the skeletons
>>721896663the abuse will continue until thread quality improves
>>721896987Undyne?
>>721897597In the prelude to Flowey's neutral fight he lets you live out a short snippet where Undyne kills you in Waterfall
>>721864379A Swaptale (not Underswap, two different things) style situation where Clover at the end of a pacifist route instantly swaps timelines with a Clover at the end of a genocide route. Either end could be interesting to see, geno Clover interacting with all of the main cast in New Home, or paci Clover interacting with Martlet on top of the apartments.
>>721844735https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPtAiLxBDh4
>>721844735Lame-o
>>721878170we have seen worse in these threads
>>721868943Why must the bird women suffer
>>721883827>no one posting OCs>still seethes about them
>>721886573>kanaclover centricnice, will give it a go later
>>721886569Currently One'd, soon to be Thing'd
>>721886573>>721887198This sounds kino. Link?
>>721903237here https://gamejolt.com/games/undertale-yellow-justice-resolves/1020673
>>721894534The skeletons shall continue. We have the mandate of (dog)heaven.
>>721893617Clover would 360 and walk away.
>>721903310thanks m8
Really slow thread, damn.
>>721868863Nice
>>721886573More kanaclover is always appreciated
>>721903079I wonde he is up to nowdays
>>721909148This, apparently
>>721903136>inquisitive nako
I've got my hands on a 54" tube projection tv. You anons think I should play UTY on it, or stick to my CRT monitor?
>>721906170sleeping and then needing breakfast for the vast majority of posters takes precedence. I am now ready to engage in my personal obsessions>>721911810Im not sure that a set up like that would make your experience any better
>>721911958You don't think it'd look good on a big screen?
>>721911669too bad smug nako is in UT promise
>>721912054its not exactly a high fidelity game, I dont think big screen or normal screen is going to really impact things very much. it would probably be more important to have good sound quality since the music is genuinely top notch. maybe it would be cool seeing zenith martlet descend onto the stage
>>721876687oh
>>721896680gonna steal that dina portrait
>>721895589That problem can be solved...
>>721912197The TV has really good built in speakers.
>>721912546by all means then go for it, personally I found sitting at my computer cozy with headphones on to be the go to experience, honestly for any game
Name 1 (one) good sprite comic
Lets say hypothetically its 2003 and you wanted to make an Undertale spinoff for the GBA. Ignoring any timeline related issues, how would you go about capturing that same energy in a format that's going to be played in short bursts on the go? What do you cut? What do you keep? What do you rework? Direct port or wholly new game?
>>721912842no, I may have come around to fanfictions over the years but I haven't enjoyed any variety of sprite comic since 8 bit theater
>>721912739I'm about 5ft away from my monitor with my current setup and I don't wear headphones because they tend to give me a headache.
>>721913058my condolences
>>721912842Does Problem Sleuth count?
>>721912842there is none it's all low effort slop
>>721913145never really considered that a sprite comic even if the characters I guess were copy pasted for a lot of panels
>>721846080I still want her to be the mother of my children
>>721912842anything involving kanaclover
>>721913501never really cared about kanaclover since kanako was such a non entity, but I can't deny the cuteness of the art as a whole
>>721913383Is she supposed to be Bruno here?
>>721914093>since kanako was such a non entityThat's what makes her so appealing. She's a blank page waiting for you to write in a character.
>>721914159I believe so, someone pulled up the specific panel the other day
>>721914093It's such a shame her only role in the story was in service of Ceroba's character. I really thought we'd get to see her in the pacifist route.
>>721914254it doesn't click right for me, we have more little hints on what clovers personality might be like, while still having room to go off in whatever direction we want, but with her we've got a grand total of like 15 seconds so when diving into a story you have really no idea even a baseline of what shes going to be like. I think maybe at best there's been some fan consensus over time that drives things which makes it a little better, as well as sig
>>721914464We know that Kanako idolized her father even more than Ceroba did, and that she wanted to be a hero and save everyone in the underground, and that she died trying to do it. That alone is something to go off of.
>>721914671too bad we get no characterization for Chujin either
>>721911810One of my biggest regrets was seeing one at a thrift store for $30 in college, saying I'd come back for it later, and returning to see it was bought. I say take a stab at it and tell me how it goes: particularly interested to see if it would accept a 240p signal, if you have the means to output that
>>721914856he's an idort
>>721914671>>721914856>kanako and chujin get one single page in the artbook each (which doesn't even show all their art) while we get a full segment for robawhy did the devs shaft them so hard
>>721914671those are also two traits that are template level for a little girl that age. big surprise a tiny child idolizes their father! sure you can work with it but again it feels like most everything I see in any stories is just pulled out of the ether, but over time that also feels like its led to some kind of consensus. when I first picked up return to form I just felt like "who is this character" any time she talked.>>721914856unironically we got more on chujin than some living characters. we have a good window into what kind of a man he was by what he did in life, and what we see of his failings
>>721914994>one of the main characters gets more space than side characterssay it ain't so
>>721915125issue is we know roba and nako have more art, but the devs did not include it in the book and the description for chujin and nako's pages are VERY brief despite nako having the whole boy thing before being changed to girl
>>721915297>roba and nakochujin and nako*
>>721914856>Racist>Massive ego>Savior complex>Obsessive personality>Known as kind and loving by everyone who was close to him>Clearly loves his family dearly, but can't tear himself away from his work to see them>Killed himself and a human child performing mad science experiments>Genius capable of mastering robotics in a few months with no prior technical experience, but absolutely hamstrung by his refusal to see his own faults>Has a strained relationship with his fatherChujin has a lot of character
>>721915537we know more about chujin than dalv and thats pretty funny
>>721915020>unironically we got more on chujin than some living charactersThey did my boy dirty. He got a whole ass new sprite so he can say an additional two sentences.
>>721914902The problem with 240 is that UTY is not a 240p game. My TV does accept native 480p and 720p though in addition to its interlaced modes.
>>721874816not the green anonthese ideas are coolhow old was Chujin when he met Ceroba? this old man got some young fox pussy luckyyyyy
>>721915675really not sure what happened there. I guess they just changed gears as they got further in development and left the ruins behind in spirit
>>721915125The main characters got loads of shit in the main game. The art book is the place you should be putting all the lore for the characters who didn't get anything in the main game.
>>721915020>those are also two traits that are template level for a little girl that ageIdolizing her father I'll give you, but not the super hero part. Being a super hero is a little boy's dream, which could hint that she's very tomboyish compared to other girls, or that she's unusually selfless for a girl her age. Remember that most girls her age want to be princesses.
>>721915537The problem is that almost all of this information is said and none of it is shown in interactions with other characters. I guess I just really wanted him to have racial hiccups in front of Clover.
>>721915662Chujin is a lot more important to the plot.
>>721916121the super hero one is an extension of the "I want to help people and be nice and do good things and". the little ray of sunshine thing that a lot of kids go through. I see where you're coming from but we dont really have enough actual dialogue on the matter for it to seem like shes doing anything but "i wanna help people because im nice" deal
>stops your genocide run
>>721916205yes but we know more about someone we never meet than the first major encounter, because chujin got a lot of really good development while contrasting that dalv got next to none so it makes it even more glaring
>>721915768>UTY is not a 240p gameI'm aware, though since most elements are rendered at half res then upscaled, I think it would still look pretty good if scaled back down.The fact that it accepts interlaced modes is a good sign though, I seem to recall hearing some rear projected CRTs don't do so well with 15kHz signals
>>721915897In his 80s or 90s probably. A strapping young man by boss monster standards.
>>721916154Most of that stuff was shown by his actions. Even if you don't directly see all of his actions, you still learn about them, and can infer those things from it.
>>721916307But girls go about that in a different way. Boys are the ones who would fantasize about going around and fighting all the bad guys to help people. Girls would be the ones thinking about getting people better food, letting them live in her pretty princess mansion, giving all the cute horsies in the field sugar cubes. Still implies a level of tomboyism.
>>721915020most people can agree on what a "stock little girl" character would be like, so it's not that surprising how the fandom's idea of kanako has turned outher archetype isn't really used in uty or undertale proper too, so she's surprisingly unique in contextcombine that with her narrative importance and she was basically made to spark the imagination, especially with what little hints we have throughout the game about her
>>721916307>>721916121to add to this, I could see how these kind of childhood traits could develop into character boons or flaws as life went on so its not like I dont see how people could use this to form a character. a child like that could easily develop a savior complex due to the nature of their life underground as an extension of that desire to save people, and losing her father early could shift that idolization into something more depressing, or if he lived but continued to pour himself into work at the cost of family time it would likely shift into some form of complex or insecurity
>>721916474It probably just scales the image to something it can natively display
>>721916963Not to mention the affect her parent's genes and moral teachings would have on her. I see Kanako being a bit spoiled and really sheltered because of her existence as an only child to rich parents. Combine that with Chujin's obsessive traits, Roba's anger issues, both of their severe lack of self reflection, and you could certainly make a character out of that.
>>721916896I guess I can see that, though that at least "early age" version of tomboy behavior isn't all that uncommon as kids are first growing up.>>721916917I can kind of see it but many depictions feel devoid of something for it instead of feeling like it benefits from the blank slate. again I think of something like return to form and it feels like the personality is a farse, but I could just be harsh because I dont like monster clover in the first place, and his past reading power plays out more like an excuse to not write out a scene rather than a plot point.
>>721917348honestly thats the strongest argument for building a personality for her and its hard for me to deny. even as people diverge from their parents there's always going to be at least something from them. so does she inherit her mothers "brains", her fathers, or get spared and land somewhere inbetween the two
>>721915537Don't forget>groomerShe was only a teenager...
>>721917638please dont
>>721917614I don't know why you think landing between the two would count as spared. That might just make her the worst of both worlds. Really, I see her as being more like Chujin, but with Roba's anger issues and rash judgement. She's book smart and capable of problem solving if she stops to think, she just often doesn't stop because she doesn't want to wait.
>>721917638I don't like the idea of Chujin molesting Kanako, but I do like the idea of Chujin being way older than Roba.
>>721918192spared because instead of intelligence that causes you to chase mad pursuits of science as you grasp at ideas obsessively, or instead of having difficulty putting legos together, you end up as having normal intelligence and a shot at living a normal life.
>>721914436same.after fighting Ceroba I was all excited to go to the lab and fight amalgamate Kanako to restore her to her true form and have her reunited with her mother.but instead Clover decided to kill himself? imagine finding out fox wives are real and then killing yourself. he's stupid
>>721918656im saving this despite having no idea what it says because axis art is rare
>>721918542The problem is that intelligence isn't a uniform stat that's applied evenly, and it especially isn't for Chujin and Roba. Chujin is a bit of a savant, genius with technology, but terrible at risk assessment and keeping his priorities straight. Ceroba is actually alright with people, she's just terrible at anything involving cold logic.So a middle ground Kanako could be someone who is both mentally and emotionally retarded. Can't read people or put legos together.
>>721903079There was an entire discussion about subleddit drama you gay retard.
>>721917638Stop forcing this meme or else I will bend you over
>>721918948we're reaching level of dumb fox I hadn't even considered possible!
>>721918656What are they saying?
>>721903079>Creator is still posting to the subreddit and never said he would leave>OC is bisexual (so will fuck every UTY character)He can’t be stopped bros….
>>721918975it was very brief, and was responded to by multiple people with "dont care fuck off" and then dropped from there. no one cares about it. the most I got out of it was checking to see if there was any art there. this is kind of cute so I dont feel ashamed snagging it from there
>>721918989You seem to have misunderstood the situation. Its you who will be doing the bending. Now put on the ribbon.
>>721919115>OC is bisexualSince when?
see now bitching about it you've gotten people to actually start talking about the shit. I was much more enjoying talking about really dumb foxes
>>721917368I read return to form until the point where the blue girl confronts Clover and I lost interest, good ideas but the narration is cheap and monster Clover is too obvious of a self insert, also I don't like how the story is a game (HP, turn based combat, food to restore energy) but I wouldn't say it's bad either
>>721919534The good version of Shu is also a very dumb fox.
>>721919534Anon we call ceroba dumb every timeIt's time to discuss a different fox's intellect>>721919665I think RtF has a good balance on game stuff and story stuff, also how is Clover a self insert?
>>721917368you can see the bones in return to form's kanako but she's, by design, a couple steps removed from the "general consensus" kanako, being a traumatized teenager and allrealistically kanako is just a vague shape of a character and everybody sculpts her slightly differently, i think everybody's more a fan of their own interpretations than anything specifically "kanako"not that i wouldn't prefer if kanako got more presence considering how story important she is but it is what it is
AI slop anon save meeee ACK
>>721919665I can tolerate the "game mechanics written in the story" sometimes but it has to be written just right like it actually feels like an aspect of the world or an odd quirk of interacting with monsters but yeah things felf off in that story to me.>>721919768>>721919765but anons, dumb kanako is what I was referring to. also the meme version of shu isn't what was being talked about. its genuinely unpleasant when actual real shu discussion plagues our nations
>>721919096>>721918739it's a dialog from Wolf Brigade, they sayIt's not a human being that you're betraying AndIt's always like this in children fairytales. Every time the wolf is the bad guy (I'm the artist)https://x.com/lixfal/status/1903220577273327992
>>721919789>i think everybody's more a fan of their own interpretations than anything specifically "kanako"I think this applies to all Undertale and Deltarune characters
>>721919172>look up the artist for pic>it's a fucking feathered mask commissionwhy can't we have nice things? why does it all have to be momroba...
>>721919789the devs could have added more stuff about her in the artbook, but we got nothing
>>721919975Are you a French speaker?
>>721841254HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAAAHAHAAA HAHAAAAAAAAAHAHAAAAFUCKING NIGGER ZOOMERMUTT FUCKING UGLY ASS OGRE I HATE YOU SO MUCH ITS UNREAL
Imagine Flowey going up against Shu only to realize that he has no hope of winning against the power of plot armor and bad writing
>>721919768I said Clover is a self insert because signirsol is a furry artist and he made Clover a lizard boss monster for no reason. I don't know if his art OC is a lizard but it really feels that waybut can't blame the man for self inserting in a story where Kanako loves Clover
>>721919949>Real Shu discussionIt was a couple posts which amounted to "Is that guy still doing that?" "Yeah, he is". Not really much of a discussion. The rest was shitposters antagonizing other shitposters.>Dumb Kanako I'm more than willing to talk about that instead. Personally I see Kanako as being a high functioning autist like her father, but way weirder because she grew up with unrestricted internet access. She's better with people than Chujin, but still is really bad about misreading people's intentions and making blatantly false assumptions about what people want.
>>721920105worseI'm French and I can prove itbonjour
>>721920371I don't think sig has a self insert OC, but the idea of lizard clover actually came from a request an anon made before RtF was a thing
>>721920408>unrestricted internet access dear god. are we talking about undernet or actual surface internet because one is going to be much worse than the other
>>721920493oh so maybe I'm wrongI still don't like lizard Clover>:((((
>>721919432Some Ceroba clone OC but male x Shu on the reddit front page, his creator seems to not mind this
>>721919975neat, and thanks for explaining
>>721920492Would you be interested in helping out with a fangame? I have French fox character in mine, but I don't speak French. You don't need to do any serious work like art, just coaching on how a French ESL would say certain things in English.As a side note, what's the name of the song you used in that video?
>>721919975Good taste
>>721920281>flowey reloads a save>the oc guy whips out a save editor>flowey goes on a post zenith martlet fight style crashout
>>721920281Imagine Shu going up against Flowey like Mr Satan against Cell.
>>721920593DRY kanako has surface net, UTY Kanako has Undernet.
>>721920493I need a version of this scene with lizard clover https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR8ZIrvqYBM
>>721920986no problem, dm me on my xthe song is Wolf by Chinese ManI also made a teto onehttps://youtu.be/Prhr8NZ94sU
>>721921373I wonder what uty martlet was browsing if she knew how to write down emoticons in her journal
>>721920751Does he even know that it isn't Ceroba?
>>721921758honestly probably something very innocent, like all the blogs that existed in earlier phases of the internet and feel good stuff to try and motivate herself/make herself feel better (it doesn't help much)
>>721921753You have Gamejolt? I try to do most of my dev related communication through there, that way I don't cross contaminate my personal posts with stuff related to the project, its a drama mitigation thing. If you don't I can make an X account for this, but it would be easier to have everyone on one site.
>>721921878Woodworking forums and facebook.
>>721922380I feel like facebook would depress her even further but she'd probably catch herself scrolling despite that, going in looking for something to make herself more able to face the day and instead getting the swarm of what facebook is like. I dont think she's quite "depressive" by nature at least before she let clover die but it probably brings her down really badly
>>721922543I think she uses it mainly to talk to her friends and family. So its a lot of her parents' stuff, Berdly's gamer society memes, probably stuff posted by her coworkers in the guard, and occasionally scrolling past the "remembering Chujin Ketsukane" page and getting depressed by it.
>>721922234done@KetsukanePawjob on Gamejolt
>>721922883WAIT NO I MISSPELT ITKestukanePawjobs and t swappedI'm a moron
>>721922883Friend request is sent
>>721922883quite a name
>>721924120Seems like a good name to me. I bet people will get a kick out of that seeing it in the credits.
Every once in a while I get extra emotional and upset that martlet isn’t real
>>721921796It doesn’t matter now anon he’ll go after anybody now. He’s got every woman. He’ll go after Starlo, Chujin’s dust, another version of himself, (You), and everyone else. Watch your back.
>>721924416I am perpetually upset that monster women aren't real.
>>721924416I dont think there existed a character that made me feel like that until martlet. I guess the autism was always inside me, just waiting for the right never ever but sure enough here it is.
>>721924120something about roba's face here looks off
>>721920913Birb
>>721925509Its based on an image macro, I don't know the original source image, but I do know the JC Denton version where his mug says what a shame.
>>721920492>and I can prove it>bonjour
Oldentale Dev here. I don't think I'm gonna be able to meet that "something playable by the end of september" deadline. I think I'm gonna have to push that back to Halloween. I should be able to have something, however small. for you guys by then.
>>721926146and now I have nothing to look forward to this month it has never been so over
>>721926274Sorry anon. I may be able to have something done before halloween, that's just the cutoff for when I HAVE TO get it done. Don't expect too much though. This isn't gonna be a full demo and probably not a combat demo either. Just some fun interactive stuff to test the engine.
>>721926146>>721926541I await with bated breath for your future updates
>>721926146Man don't worry about it. Between TAKING TOO LONG and >>721861121, I totally get the feeling.Halloween is also my personal deadline for a "something playable" demo, so here's hoping we can get our works out by then together
>>721927047Which game is yours?
>>721928370The dead's consent isn't a factor
>>721928430that exactly is why i got my hands on chujin's dust to rebuild his body and have sex with him
>>721926541it's fine take all the time you need
>>721928691Ceroba, scattering his ashes over a dildo is not building him a new body.
Why does he immediately give up?
How would Chujin react to all the humans being horny for him?
>>721926146>>721926680>>721926541oh right halloween is soonI will try to get the update for DRY1 ready by then then, I just finished the forest miniboss today so besides bearing's fortress second floor, the rest of the changes should be small enough, if I focus on full time on it I should be able to get it ready
>>721927536Crack theory Deltarune, which probably explains the Halloween deadline.I got text rendering working, thinking I should start collision soon. Then I'll have half the stuff I finished for schizo Kanako Deltatraveler. In twice the amount of time. Hoo boy
>>721929257He would get off of the idea of being fucked by humans while he calls them slurs
>>721929665You gonna include the updated sprites for Martlet, Chujin, and Sadie?
>>721930246yes those are already done, just unsure if I will include the new music tracks made, I'm not focusing on that right now
>>721930310I actually had a question about that, but that might leak into spoiler territory. To gauge how much you'd be willing to share, could I ask how much of chapter 2 you intended to include in the next update?
>>721929665Cool, I am really looking forward to it.>>721929718>which probably explains the Halloween deadline.Because the game is spooky or because chapter 1 released on Halloween?>Then I'll have half the stuff I finished for schizo Kanako DeltatravelerYou're still working on that?
>>721931351only adding some gizmo scenes in day 2 and other small cutscene changes for now, but after the ch 1 update is done I will work on finishing ch 2
>>721929718>>721929665>>721926146Wow, we really have a lot to look forward to on Halloween don't we?
>>721931689You should at least give Gizmo a couple spoken lines in chapter 1 if for no other reason than to foreshadow his later importance and to familiarize the players with the character. Like how Berdly was established in chapter 1.
>>721931818oh he will have dedicated cutscenes in ch 1 too, that is already coveredhere are some portraits
>>721931624>Because the game is spooky or because chapter 1 released on Halloween?The latter. I find it thematically appropriate to showcase a new Survey Program the same day the original one released.>You're still working on that?Lmao no. Just comparing my progress on Survey Program to how far I got with Goopnakotraveler>>721931689Ah alright. So the Halloween update is basically going to be a more complete chapter 1, I see.I'll ask my spoilers question later then, whenever chapter 2 is closer to completion>>721931717Fingers crossed I won't be a fraud, lol
>>721931717This would be the moment where I say that I plan to release something in Halloween too, but my deadline is actually in november and at this rate I don't know if I'll have anything ready by thenSilksong's release didn't help either, lmao
>>721929203It's interesting how he gives up when he's shown any amount of parental love. Which begs the question...Was he looking for those fallen humans?Or was he running away from himself?
>>721933076probably looking for a purpose, and didn't even know what he was really missing since he was just a kid. Suddenly martlet offers him to live with her and it all falls away, the thing a kid needs even if they dont know it, a place to belong. then flowey shows up and clovers "dialogue" implies the greatest meltdown known to man
>>721931916cute gizmo
>>721929203His lack of parents is stronger than his determination, and sense of justice too
>>721933076I wonder if they made the clothes Toriel gave him ugly on purpose.
>>721931916I still think those could stand to be be more angular too better communicate the idea of a cat, but its probably to late to be nitpicking now. The sprites look good enough.
>>721932251>Lmao nowould you at least be able to recycle anything from the dead game? Like assets, code, characters, or plot elements?
>>721933069DRY2?
>>721934952nah thats a different guy that got consumed by silksong.i have just a bit too much left to aim for halloween, but if i focus (nothing else i want to play, so maybe) i can get the battle system complete by then.
>>721935081Naranja?
>>721933310>"clover would like to cry but they don't have eyes"
>>721935865we really get a lot more hints on what clover thinks and feels compared to frisk dont we. that whole ending shows clovers reaction to being accused of betrayalhaving a home ripped from his grasphis absolute lack of "quit" despite not having frisks dt
>>721929203he's a true natural jobber
>>721934871Not really, there's not a whole lot to reuse besides code. Much of the logic is indeed being reused, and the (very straightforward) porting process gives me a chance to review things for succinctness and clarity. Plot and characters (which mind you were hardly developed) were very specific to UTY and the crossovers, so that's not very reusable: only thing I can think of is that the endings of both first chapters are vaguely similar in idea. As for assets, I didn't even make any by the time I quit, haha
>>721935258si
>>721937562Didn't you already have a battle system?
>>721937773this >>721935081 is DRYanon2
>>721937773I do, but I want to release a more complete demo with multiple fights and some platforming sections, that's what I intend to release on November
>>721938291An actual demo in November? I am looking forward to that.
>>721939215>An actual demo in November?keep in mind that it won't be a "full" demo in the sense that Undertale's demo was the entirety of the ruins area, this would be closer to half the content of the first area, ending with a mini boss
>>721936392Who wouldn't lose it after watching an innocent woman being killed in cold blood after she's offered you a home
You are adding nose nuzzling with a monster girl in your fangame, aren't you?
>>721939215There was an older demo released around last year, but most people seem to have forgotten it existed
>>721941821while very reasonable, I think his reaction here compared to anything else he goes through probably tells us a bit about how badly clover wanted to go with her, and how much he was affected by this.
>>721942591I remember. I'm gonna ask if you (or anyone else) still happen to have that Linux build so I can add it to the playable games archive
>>721942327But are they good enough to win the competition?
>>721931916he kind of looks like the boykisser
>>721942731he was born to suffer, he never had a chance
>>721945054I have been given the mandate of heaven. I will construct new fates, equal measures joyous and miraculous. I move forward with the blessings of 500 skeletons
>>721945167not even skellymen could save clover from his destiny
>>721945415you have forgotten my trump card, you are courting death!
>>721942591It wasn't a full demo though, just a combat demo.
>>721940956Still, its exciting.
>>721931916Should Gizmo grow to be tall or should he stay as a short king?
>>721946160what the hell is dess doing with the uty castalso gizmo should remain short king
>>721942327If I see an opportunity to add it, I will, but I'm not gonna force it.
>>721946271Don't remember the artist but this was part of an AU crackship with Clover and DessHad this image in my folder since like January '24 but never found a good chance to post it till now
>>721943775Not unless Clover puts some effort into it. Look at him, he's just sitting there and taking it.
>>721945783>orange coffin emptyI give Val 24 hours until he gets himself put back in there
Question for the devanons, how are you storing dialogue/narration text?For simplicity, I was leaning towards baking it into the maps and fights themselves. But considering DRY1 already has several fan translations, I'm wondering if it might be more mod-friendly to set up reading strings from a CSV or something. Is it worth the effort or am I just making up a problem in my head?
>>721946160Gizmo is a manlet and a giga nerd
>>721946489coming back to life to face more strong fighters just like his hero!and then getting put back in the grave multiple times again just like his hero!
>>721942327I wasn't planning on it originally but this place has brainwashed me enough to consider it
>>721946532DRY1 here, I just saved it all in txt files with a pretty simple system where the game will look for lines that start with an @ and then from there check for special strings/characters to add event data for that text block (a custom struct that stores all text related stuff)it used to be one single giant file but I am now splitting each room into its own file (the main file is still used for stuff used in multiple rooms)for translations, translators just need to copy the text folder and then put the new files into the game's appdata folder, where the game will search for languages, and display those in a menu when the game opens
>>721946402>clover I'm gonna beat the shit out of you if you don't start nuzzling like your life depends on it>ok fine
>>721946532I haven't gotten to that part yet. Still working on walk cycles, then my next step is collisions. After that tile graphics, then I'll do dialogue.
>>721946532>>721946872Thinking about it, since my game will be open source, I don't need to have the dialogue included in an external file. I can just bake it into the executable. If people want to translate then they just edit the dialogue in the appropriate source file.
>>721946532>Question for the devanons, how are you storing dialogue/narration text?I can't help you much with this since in Naranja I use the Godot dialogue manager plugin, it stores all the dialogue in .dialogue resources (basically text files with dialogue divide by titles), I just give each enemy their own dialogue resource stored in an export variable, same for the overworld each area has its own dialogue resourceAs for translations, all the dialogue can be exported to .po/.mo files (this being a built-in function of Godot), which can then be translated with the use of programs like POEdit, with the downside that the text is kind of disorganized
>>721946712Let's plot a course
>>721948509what's this a reference to?
>>721947586>As for translations, all the dialogue can be exported to .po/.mo files (this being a built-in function of Godot), which can then be translated with the use of programs like POEdit, with the downside that the text is kind of disorganizedWouldn't it be easier to just create a .dialogue file for each language? Just copy/paste the original one and then edit it with the new language, it's already structured and has all the event calls in it that way, plus you can more easily tweak it, like if an event is supposed to be played when a specific word is spoken, you can just shift it to where it needs to be.
>>721949857hell, alternatively you can just put all languages in the same dialogue filethen just append "_en" "_es" "_jp", etc. to each title and then in code when calling a title you just tell it to append [current language suffix] to the title string to seek, no?
>>721949715The Misadventures of Skooks. The papyrus image is one too.
>>721946532for DRY2 im storing dialog (and all asociated data) in scriptable objects.currently, each one holds multiple boxes of text and are intended to be a whole dialog string from start to finish.but im going to rewrite it later to be more modular, with each one holding individual boxes insteadthis probably wont be too translation mod friendly, but there's no real clean way to have that without exposing secrets.i think what i'll do instead is put out the uncompiled SOs in a stripped down project meant exclusively for testing translations AFTER secrets are found, then people can send that back to me and i'll include it in the base game.
>>721950651OR, now that I think about it, you can just bake the check straight into the dialogue file. Say that there's a title called "introduction", then inside that title it's just a match statement that matches the variable for the current locale, then routes over to the corresponding "introduction_[language]" title.
How would Ceroba fare in the surface world if it were like GTA?
>>721949857>Wouldn't it be easier to just create a .dialogue file for each language?You could do that too, I considered it while I was translating some of the dialogue, I still used the PO files tho, in part because I wanted to see how Godot's localization system worked with the dialogue plugincreating new .dialogue files should give additional context when translating the game so I might use that>plus you can more easily tweak it, like if an event is supposed to be played when a specific word is spoken, you can just shift it to where it needs to be.You can already do that, functions can be executed mid dialogue with the use of the [do function()] "mutation", these appear in the PO files too>>721950651Honestly that just sounds like adding unnecessary clutter to the resources I don't see any advantage over just using PO file or making new dialogue resources>>721951130>OR, now that I think about it, you can just bake the check straight into the dialogue file. Say that there's a title called "introduction", then inside that title it's just a match statement that matches the variable for the current locale, then routes over to the corresponding "introduction_[language]" title.you could do that too, but again, I don't see why would you chose to do that over the PO file or creating new files methods
>>721951993She seems to be doing pretty well in that footage.
>>721946830Out of curiosity, what other event types do you have besides showing different character portraits? Wondering if you have custom text speeds/spacings/"characters drawn per frame" settings like the original games do, or what else these events might entail.Additionally, this may be a dumb "premature optimisation" question, but has reading a bunch of txt files at runtime led to any noticeable performance dips? Wondering how and when you have chosen to access them (eg. at game start, per room entry)>>721947071You know what, my game is also open source so I can probably also just do that and ask modders to recompile lmao. Speaking of which, I recall saying this before, but you're welcome to use any of my code if that helps (though you'd need to translate from C)>>721947586>As for translations, all the dialogue can be exported to .po/.mo files (this being a built-in function of Godot), which can then be translated with the use of programs like POEditThanks for bringing this to my attention. I dunno if I need (or am willing) to bring in gettext, but at least the option is there.Also, since I believe your native language is Spanish: out of curiosity, is the original script for Naranja in that or English?>>721951028I see what seem to be instructions in the dialogue strings themselves. Did you have to write any routines to process these? If so, I'm also gonna ask you the same thing I asked DRY1anon about custom text instructions.Also curious, what advantages do you see to having one scriptable object per dialogue box as opposed to how it is now?Thanks for the ideas everyone.
found this on twatter, is this based on a particular story or is chara there just because?
>>721953471>though you'd need to translate from CYeah, I probably won't end up using any of your code, but I still appreciate the offer. I don't know C.
>>721953471>Out of curiosity, what other event types do you have besides showing different character portraits? Wondering if you have custom text speeds/spacings/"characters drawn per frame" settings like the original games do, or what else these events might entail.I guess this is related, but do you plan on giving animated talking sprites to characters? Toby gave them to Toriel and planned to have them for every character with a sprite, but cut it since it was too much work.>>721954149There's also Dess and Asriel. Probably a crossover of sorts?
>>721954149I can't imagine an Chara and Dess being civil with each other when posing for a picture with Asriel. One would kill the other.
Naranjanon, you're from Central/South America, right? Will you be including any traditional latin American monsters like duendes or chupacabras? I know there's a lot of weird superstitions about weird creatures like that from there.
>>721953471many things can be saved, like if any entity will have animations changed, if an entity will play their talk animation, change entity direction, create prompts, redirect text, play sounds, etcthere is nothing with being able to do stuff while the text is running, didn't add it since there was no reason to so far, so commands are either called before text is rendering or after it is done being rendered depending of the commandfor shaking, font size, etc, those can be done using godot's built in bbtag systemthe game only loads the persistent files at first, which is the main text, system text, enemy names/checks and so, the room specific dialogue is loaded per room when you enter a room, so far it has been pretty fast and I haven't noticed many issues since it is only done while the room is being loaded. only thing really is memory to store the struct data into a dictionary
>>721954847for comparison, in the current DRY1 build on gamejolt, pretty much ALL dialogue of the entire game is loaded into memory at the start when the game opens due to saving it all in a single file, but it still seems to run fine on most systems without too much memory overhead
>>721953471>I see what seem to be instructions in the dialogue strings themselves. Did you have to write any routines to process these?thats actually part of unity's text mesh pro stuff, just text formatting. the only extra part i had to script was a "skip" in text scrolling so that anything inside of a < > doesnt get displayed.>what advantages do you see to having one scriptable object per dialogue box as opposed to how it is now?two big things really.the first, the way i currently have everything set up expects that one SO = one dialog instance, which becomes problematic when it needs to be split up with dialog choices. while i could change that if im going to be rewriting stuff i might as well fix the other thing.which is the fact that the way this is set up is confusing as fuck.'LinesBox' is the variable that dictates how many text lines go into a single box, and i didn't bother leaving reminders for which of the other elements are on a per-box basis or a per-line basis (if there's even a separation. i forgot), and even if i did that there's the fact that human error is way too easy on my end.so just splitting up the dialog SOs to be one-per-box is way more convenient.
Why the fuck is CocoaPowder so popular? And why the fuck does the art have to be so good?
>>721957134pretty much anyone that is able to finish a fangame will be popular, so if you want your specific soul take to be hailed by the community, you have to do it first
>>721957134the red and yellow mod.
>>721957134Red and Yellow. I'm hoping DRY will torpedo cocpowder's popularity by making Kanaclover the new default Clover ship.
>>721957134shit taste and artistic skill sometimes go hand in hand, its really a flip of the coin
>>721953471>Also, since I believe your native language is Spanish: out of curiosity, is the original script for Naranja in that or English?a little from column A, a little from column B. All my notes are written in spanish but I usually write the dialogue in english and then much later I translate it to spanish, I use this as a chance to re read all the dialogue and change or improve on it>>721954517>Naranjanon, you're from Central/South America, right?Yes, I'm suprised it took this long for someone to mention it>Will you be including any traditional latin American monsters like duendes or chupacabras? I know there's a lot of weird superstitions about weird creatures like that from there.Some, but I'm not giving latin american creatures priority, I do try to add them if given the chance thoI already showed one of those monsters too. Luzma was inspired by the "Luz Mala" (a type of will-o-wisp)
>>721957763You should put a duende in the game. It would be funny. Don't even give it any lines or anything, have it occasionally show up, make the mimimimi noise, and run away as a series of FUN events.
>>721957763cute will-o-wisp thing
>>721957763can you nuzzle fire elementals without getting your face melted?
>>721959018Magic fire can be as hot or as cold as the user wants it to be. So only if she lets you.That's assuming will-o-wisps are made of fire, and not just balls of light.
>>721841254
>>721959465huh?
>>721959569autism to get a reaction I'd wager
>>721958132>You should put a duende in the gameI already did, its one of the enemies from the first area of the game
>>721961079please tell me you included the duende noise
>>721961202Not yet
>>721957763learning more about naranja is honestly getting me pumped up for it waku waku
>>721961385Have it be an actual entity that pops out from under things and runs at you with a way too fast walk cycle, and it makes the mimimi sound when it does. All the other enemies are normal random encounters except this one. And then when you beat it, it runs away in the overworld and makes the noise again.
>>721897597On top of what the other anon said, Undyne gets mentioned for a moment by Moray, who stated they get confused as Undyne's sibling but aren't related
I must sleep soon, but I'm just going to tell myself that I would have rolled bird finally when THAT gets posted. this was a good thread.
Very uneventful thread this time.
>>721966852thread was alright, lots of dev talk, which hasn't happened in a while
>>721954273Gotcha, I guess if you need help with anything, ask in the thread and I can try to break down how I might go about it>>721954275I thought most characters had them, but it turns out I'm remembering wrong. Anyways, since there's precedence for not having that, probably not lmao.This does have the added side effect of no animated talk sprites for Toriel and Asgore, but I don't think that'll be a big deal for most people. If it ever matters, I could always add them later>>721955446That's probably how I'd go about it if I were to stuff dialogue in text files, actually (though that's a plan C to hardcoding and using gettext). So it helps to know this is what older builds of DRY1 do>>721956192Yeah, that makes sense. I also had my textboxes organised similarly in that other fangame I scrapped, so it's good to know that's not too scalable.I am a bit curious as to how you've organised your project around having a ton of SOs, and to a lesser extent if that might bloat time taken to reload script assemblies (guessing not significantly)
it is quiet tonight
>>721966892Kinda wonder if I should post more frequent updates. Still in the very early phases, haven't made anything noteworthy, and progress is extremely slow, but if others find dev talk interesting...
>>721971336What are you making?If it's UTY related, I'd say showing it off here wouldn't hurt, otherwise it might be best to save it for the /vrpg/.
>>721970148Why is she so stacked?
>>721945054Kanako's fate is also grim and I refuse to accept the dev vision as canoncaptcha x4xxx
>>721967862>I am a bit curious as to how you've organised your project around having a ton of SOsim shifting away from that a bit actually, i was going to use a sort of tag system to make SOs trigger unique code, but i really dont want to deal with that. dialog objects will probably be the only ones that dont get rewritten to use inheritance at some point.
>>721972827I'm sorry, my companion, but no. We all have our destinies and theirs culminate there. I would not rob them of that.
>>721971739Crack theory Deltarune. The "not UTY" thing has crossed my mind, but most people seem to be okay with me posting it in these threads.
>>721974331you're fine, these threads are more for fangames in general but we cant say that near the op otherwise "REEE GENERAL!!!!!!!! VEEEEEE GEEEEEEE NNOWWWW!!!!!!!!"
>>721972375She needs them to feed her litter
Hopefully the next thread's better, this is the most flaccid one we've had in a while.
>>721972375drawn by signirsol, I like thick girls as much as the next guy but sometines I wish he had more variety with the body types,
>>721980579That ain't right.
>>721841254>under-tale yell-owfor what purpose? to get around people's filters? retarded behavior that'll only bring in shitposters
>>721981715This thread's actually been surprisingly calm.Sterile, even.Mostly.
>>721974604do monster wome give birth to entire litters?
>>721983330considering kanako is an only child, probably not
>>721983330Probably depends on the kind of monster.
>>721975967I'll take it. Better than spergery that amounts to nothing
>>721841254I have that with most games I play BECAUSE I ENJOY GAMES UNLIKE YOU FAGGOTS DEMENTED TRANNY NIGGER LOVERS
>>721984214Yeah, but still, this thread felt just a bit meh to me.Hopefully we get some new stuff next thread, drawanons and whatnot.
>>721978548Wasn't there a drawanon here who could draw the body proportions really well.If memory serves they drew Martlet, Zenith Martlet and Ceroba, and the images were very well received.Even though it was pregnant stuff.
>>721987534signirsol does draw body proportions really well too, but he gives the girls very similar body types unless it's Mooch or Zenith Martlet
>>721985181I'll take writing requests next thread if anyone is into that
>>721842556>Is it bittersweet, knowing that the community that formed around this game when it released will never return?it might return once one of the other soul fangame releases
>>721988817Yeah, that could give the next thread some life, depending.What are your rules, things you are and aren't willing to draw and whatnot?
>>721991614I'm just a writerfag
>>721991846right,. sorry, got mixed. up. tired.what are you/aren't you willing to write?
>>721873741She's just like me for real.
>>721992818anything really so long the idea is good
>>721992914Would you be willing to do this?>>721866042
Zenith Mooch...
Well, this thread's nearly at the limit.Are we going into overtime after this one, or are we only doing the one thread this time?
>>721993136sure I'll give it a shot
>>721993463there was nobody in this one, why bother with another
>>721993463nah this thread was pretty slow, just let it rest
>>721993463One thread is enough.
>>721973218*shoots you*
>>721993463Nah, one thread was enough since it lasted a few days.Doomposters kill yourselves
>>721996245What doom posters?
t'was a good thread
>>721993136I'm sorry anon I didn't get to finish it on time. If you want I can post it next thread.
>>721997161remember to mark that green as what it is so I can skip it. I don't want to read kanako gore
>>721996372Not him but every time the thread would slow down during dead hours someone would post 'muh dead thread'. If you want the thread to be alive you have to contribute.
>>721997294kanako gore will continue until thread quality improves but I'll post some Flood related image so you know
another one bites the dust
>>721997595I will not tolerate violence against my man Flowey he has suffered enough
ceroba is fat
>>721997570just say what the prompt is before the greentext starts
>>721997706no lmao
>>721998023So how do they kiss?
>>721998104like this
>>721998023that is I'm killing Martlet again
>>721998271get fucked flowey
>>721998364it's called character building you'll thank me later
last for mooch
>>721998364good lord woman, that wedding dress is nuts, have some decency
nah Flowey gets to end this thread
