We need to be worse men
I still cannot believe how badly CA has shat the bed with Warhammer 3. I have like 2000 hours with Warhammer 2 and very fond memories but 3 is barely playable outside of a handful of factions.
>>721887124stupid contrarian fag WH3 is the best in the series by a wide margin
>>721887023That armor doesn't seem very practical.
>wasting a DLC slot for shitty elves
>>721887124WH2 was pretty shit at launch too. It didn’t become good until warden&paunch>losing your black arc with T4-T5 units to a slann and 5 skinks
>>721887179Doesn't need to when it makes you invincible.
>>721887320AR is still shit tho. Are we gonna pretend that Dawi don't have the most broken AR in the entire series?
>>721887158GEEEEEEEEEEEEEG
>>721887374It’s always been shit. But in 2 you were forced to use it in all naval battles when 50% of the map consisted of oceans. That is far worse than certain factions being more favored in AR
>>721887158It's not. By this stage in its life, Warhammer 2 was much better. In large part because the gulf between the haves and the have nots was not as severe.
I've always liked hordesBut then again I pretty much never finish grand strategy campaigns anyway so I'm not bothered about muh endgame muh winning too hard
>>721887124All their focus is now on Total War: 40k.
Define "worse".My interpretation of it is that we need to judge women and men and act accordingly.Liars, cheaters and murderers get killed.
>>721887124We know why
>>721887698I think a major factor in that was the original decision to split Daemons up into monogod factions. It really spread their shit thinSlaanesh in particular feels like they got fucked by this the hardest, since their stacks are nothing but light infantry, light cav, light chariots oh and maybe some heavy infantry but with no bite
>>721887869This will always be hilarious
>>721887183I am actually pretty disgusted by the Helf favoritism, they already got multiple DLCs during their entry's lifespan but now they get to stand out as the only 2 faction to get yet another during 3, especially since they already seemed so complete they were already barrel-scraping for new units in the last one
>>721887023We need to be Norse Men.>>721887124My only gripe is the level of stability it has.Currently playing with 263 mods and they could do something about this.
>>721887023>antichrist is a demon-jew hapa rape baby
Who's the most objectively fun LL?
>>721888931correct except for the hapa part. His mother was banged by a Norscan not a Kurgan ALTOUGH Norscans themselves are mutts unlike their Norsii ancestors
>>721889032it was a demon in disguise
>>721889018For me, it's NakaiJust don't worry about your vassal being retarded, and go to a different continent if you get tired of krumping one type of enemy
>>721887756Is this actually coming?
>>721889018Depends entirely on your preferred playstyle. I've been playing a lot of Markus Wulfhart in the Vortex campaign, his campaign is pretty tough but fun.
>>721889086he was a possesed Norscan champion so not quite disguised
>>721887023>BE WORSE
>>721889018no such thing as "objective fun" but if you want braindead LL's these might interest you>Skarbrandliterally fucking go AFK after right clicking on the enemy >Gor-Rokstarts with a great spellcaster that nukes the fuck out of everything, Gor himself is a tank >Festusregen to make your already tanky units even more durable>Ghorstabsolutely no tactics involved, even fucking Khorne has to micro more than him, just blob your zombies around your necro with mortis finally there is Warhammer on Creative Mode tier: ChangelingImfucking possible to lose as Changeling if you want to actually play the game then Malakai. Tough on strategic level since you are swarmed by unending stream of shit but if you enjoy battles look no further and get yourself the copters go dab on snowniggers
>>721889018Makeith. Good challenging start. Good expansion options. Good diplomatic situation. Balanced army roster. No crazy campaign bonuses.
>>721887124Warhammer 3 map is just way too full of factions. You can't turn around without your shoulders hitting someone.
>>721889018Fat bastard
>>721889621Golgfag mogs him
They still have not fixed the pathing issues did they.Last time I tried playing TW3 ranged units would sometimes just walk forward even with guard mode on. Trying to get units trough a gate is one of the most frustrating things I have ever done in a game. Issuing an attack order would have units walk out of the blob, reform, and then attack. And in sieges, oh god don't get me started on that, 1 single unit model of yours gets stuck on a corner, and the squad cripples half your army by entangling itself into the rest of your units.
>>721889108lol no
>>721889492I've tried him a few times in the Vortex campaign but I don't think I've ever made it past 20 turns. Sure, he's strong and all (and he almost always becomes strength rank 1 in the campaigns when played by the AI) but there's something about the location and setting that's just boring to me. You're just whacking irrelevant rats and norscans in the frozen shithole corner of the world.
>>721889018Ikiti refuse to pretend i hate skaven just because they were overrepresented in 2
God I love Bretonnia
>>721887124That's what happens when you take the profits from warhammer 2 and funnel it into hyena.
>>721887023we DO need to be better men.but not how onions cucks define 'better'.
>>721890319To be a better man, we have to first be the worst possible man. Which makes Archaon the best life coach
>>721890101You are supposed to coordinate a grand invasion of Ulthuan not try to take over the chaos wastes
>>721889018Depends what you mean by fun.If by fun you mean ridiculously, retardedly overpowered, easily winning battles against 5 high level stacks without them as much as damaging a single unit? Kairos and Gelt.If you mean fun in the challenging but rewarding way, then idk I don't play the game that way.
guys what's a good army comp for the Empire and Kislev?
>>72189375loads of gunline and artillery, then heroes/cav to lock enemy troops down. dont even bother with melee inf past early game
>>721887023WORSEMEN COME
>>721890264this peasant gets it
>>721891858The Donut sucks, I hate playing there even as helves. Once I start confederating people as Tyrion I also lose interest.
>>721887756Reminder that this is what their so-called "A-team" has been working on for the last three years since passing over WH3 support to CA Sofia. The same A-team that gave us;>The siege rework, including every single minor settlement battle being a siege (they were later almost entirely removed from the game), respawning towers and >Realms of Chaos campaign, including chaos rifts spawning armies in your territory, the gimmicky chaos realms that you had to do in every campaign (if you ignored them the AI would win the race and give you a game over, it was only later they grudgingly patched in a quest battle to knock out the AI if they beat you to the souls), and survival battles (they were so proud of these it was the very first thing they showcased and based much of the marketing around, also you couldn't autoresolve them at launch)>A fully voiced tutorial with unique gameplay, units, and an entire tech tree - which lasts two hours and will be ignored after, and which they broke in patch 1.1 and still doesn't function properly to this day>Crippled base game Chaos rosters for the sole reason that they could be fixed with CoC (at launch Nurgle's only mobility was Rot Flies, Slaanesh had no units with armour greater than 15, Khorne had no low tier infantry and Tzeentch had to use Blue Horrors as a frontline - this decision still ripples into the current game where Chaos garrisons are all dogshit with like three different units in them out of their now gigantic roster)>Never figured out how to use version control so they built the game on an old WH2 codebase which caused tons of issues further down the line and caused the main game mode to be delayed six months post launchI could keep going but I think I've made my point and I'm running out of reply characters. I think people have forgotten just how fucking awful WH3 was at launch and how much CA Sofia have done to turn the game around. TW40k will be an abomination on a similar scale, mark my words.
>>721891858Good luck doing that with Valkia and Grombrindal swarming over your ass by turn 8. Oh nice, you beat them? And even better, you managed to do it before Valkia reached level 10 and started pulling RoRs out her ass and Grombrindal started groodging and spamming Trollhammer Gyrocopters? Nice job! Unfortunately that just gave you vision with Sigvald and he's coming for your ass next, you better deal with him too. Uh oh that just gave you vision with Norsca, and Daniel (he wiped out Malus before you could meet with him and confederate by the way), and now Wulfric is coming, and he got himself vassalised by Azazel so here comes this asshole stealing your Darksharts, and so on and so on. No, Malekith's campaign is a pile of shit nearly equal to Teclis'.
>>721896335>No, Malekith's campaign is a pile of shit nearly equal to Teclis'.How's Teclis' campaign in TW2, specifically the Vortex? I heard his starting location is actual fucking ass but the lord is pretty strong (not right click and AFK mode like others but can still wreck armies on his own with some micro) once you level him up. I've been playing a lot of Markus Wulfhart and I've gotten an acquired taste for awful starts that you have to claw your way out of.
>>721896483He shares a starting island with Ikit Claw in Vortex if I remember correctly, so between him and Skrolk you're going to be spending most of your campaign fighting ratniggers. He got a big powerup in WH3 with his new mount and he's getting another in the upcoming DLC, but in WH2 his campaign was very vanilla and really only notable for starting in the Lustriabowl, which I think was only a problem in Mortal Empires because Lustria was so tiny there.
>>721888085The game is fundamentally broken for melee focus factions except the ones who can bring heavy armour crazy damage units like khorne, everybody else has to deal with massive range powerhouses or being outnumbered 90% of time. That is why other melee factions like greenskins late game armies is literally just archanarok and black orks spams, because nothing else works, waaghs are literally just to soak damage so your big monster doomstacks kills everything. CA really needs to implement units caps on campaing for future games.
OLD SAWBONES
as a warhammer fantasy fan, you will never stop wanting to kill warhammer 40k fans with your bare hands
>>721896335>Good luck doing that with Valkia and Grombrindal swarming over your ass by turn 8By turn 8 you should have eliminated Grombrindal entirely. Dark elves are the only faction in the game that hard counters early game manlets.
>>721887183Yes, we clearly need another empire DLC
>>721900143There have been only 2 empire DLC over the last 10 years. 3 High elf ones.
>>721900143Yes
>>721887023>E'ad Buttz yaGit.
Valkia should be Khorne rather than WOC and Tamurkhan should be WOC rather than Nurgle. Actually why the fuck are there monogod factions AND monogod WOCs?
>>721901923Both are daemons. Why would they be in a mortal faction?
>>721901923They refused to rework WoC unless they could put a price tag on it, so they had to give them some monogod lords
Wtf did they never add thanquol?10 years and 3 games he was never a LL, but they added tretch who was made up for the game
>>721904110WoC was reworked for free. All reworks in this game are free.
>>721904532He's too cringe to be in the game.
>>721887183>”Our statistics show that helves are the most popular faction”>”Therefor the only logical choice is to give them a rework instead of bringing other factions up to the same level of popularity”CA would be so fucked if they didn’t have the warhammer license
>>721900712>>721901404>>721900143>>721888487>>721887183We need more Skaven DLC to be completely honest with you family.
>>721905063Then play your “free” version of WoC without>daemon princes>marked lords>marked heroes>marked units>warshrines
>>721904532He's being saved for Total War: End Times.
>>721887023>We need to be worse menThis but (blue)
>>7218871241 was the only good one.2 was already slop.
I hope to god we never get an AoS total war. Fantasy is already bloated to hell with fanfiction and the map is condensed too.
>>721908143AoS total war will never happenNobody gives a shit about AoS
>>721908402sounds like cope to me
>>721897001Glad there's a unit caps mod. Haven't played without it since I found it.
Whats a good faction to play if I like monster mash?Tamurkhan was fun but just right clicking towards the enemy got old.Skrott seems like he'd be fun, but I can't get over how annoying his start is. I just want to consolidate in the mountains but Kislev freaks out at you existing.Ogres are all fun.Lizardmen are a mixed bag. But I think they have the most monsters.
>>721909732Rakarth is all about collecting monsters and he starts with a war hydra to boot
>>721909732Tomb Kings, the recent update raises a lot of caps for constructs.
>>721910385>Playing another global recruitment faction pool after TamurkhanIts such a huge change from playing "normal" factions. Its basically a crutch. Still, good point, I haven't even looked at the Kangs changes>>721910035Might try him. I have played basically zero Dark Elves ever.
>>721887023>MenThis nigga is so full of gayos semen he hardly counts as one
>>721889018My favorites:>MorathiExtremely powerful spellcaster with many abilities to spam and can destroy entire armies with magic>GromUnique, funny personality and campign mechanics. Collecting ingredients is fun and adds a reason to travel outside of your blob>IkitMost OP tech tree, have an unstoppable machine gun line or nuke cities off the map every few turns, best army
>>721900143I'm still waiting to see the OTHER magic chariot added, that they've still held it back makes clear they're saving shit for SOMEthing
im sad how TW3 ner'fd the tomb kings casket arty into being reasonably balanced in Tw2 you could solo half an army with it, wiping out units in 2 shots
>>721887023How do I become the worst that ever was?
>>721908402They nearly released hyenas until sega told them to stop being retarded, so they are 100% capable of tw:aos.
>>721908402There's gotta be at least one redeeming quality of AoS, right? Surely a cool faction or something?
>>721916492No
>>721916492Cool factions in isolation, maybe. Some of them suffer from being flanderized versions of their Old World counterparts. (e.g The one of TWO dwarf factions just being an entire faction of Slayers)If not that then they're probably just doing fantasy space marines. I like the Ossiarch Bonereapers, but you wouldn't catch me ever playing AoS or buying models for it.
>>721916220Sega also told them to MAKE Hyenas so don't go thinking either of them make good business decisions.
>>721916492Some of the centerpiece models are cool enough I'd consider buying them just as fun model projects.
>>721904532And he'll be the Legendary Lord of what clan?
>>721916492Imagine fantasy but worse, also>All races have trademarkable names now
>>721889473>if you want to actually play the game then Malakai. Tough on strategic level since you are swarmed by unending stream of shit but if you enjoy battles look no further and get yourself the copters go dab on snowniggersMalakai gets so many fucking buffs that just annihilate enemies, it's only "hard" for the first 30 or so turns
>Realm of Chaos is just a shit map that's so unsalvageable that the devs have given up working on it>Immortal Empires is so damn big that odds are you'll never actually finish a runI like 3 but goddamnit this part is demoralizing.
>>721916492Hot take, I actually like the Sigmarines and think they're cool. But at the same time they don't belong in fantasy so it's still a strike against it.
>>721916492Really good models made by people that clearly care.It doesn't have the 40K issue where you can tell most sculptors doing the blood angel overhaul did so at gunpoint.
>>721917151>A simple head swap or even just changing the color>Suddenly becomes a really cool model. This is why it's good AoS filters you people.
>>721918464grey seers, technically not a clan but they still hold a council seat and has the most influence
>>721905241it's more "will overhauling the faction no one cares about get us the attention we need to sell more?" kind of situation
>>721887023GW really hit it out of the park with the design for Warhammer Chaos warriors. Easily top5 most iconic and badass looking dudes in fiction.
>>721920421This is the worst partIt just underlines why AoS exists: to try and make more money from Fantasy fans>Orruks>Duardin>Aelves>Ogors>TroggothsIt's all horseshit
>>721920965>head swapDude, people on this site get ass mad over the colours of armor on the box art, seemingly unaware the plastic inside is grey and you have to pick the colours yourself.You're expecting way too much from them whe you talk about an atcual modification
>>721921087This, in addition to "if we're going to pander, we might as well pander to the most popular group"
>>721920786Realm of Chaos is flawed as fuck but it actually tried to have real design. Immortal Empire has nothing going for it after the early game. The only total war game that had a feeling of progression was the first Warhammer, and they basically cheated by making Chaos just spawn with actually good armies rather than relying on the AI doing it for you. Realm of Chaos as a map is honestly fine. I think the Empire actually feels better than the huge bloated region in Immortal Empires. Chaos wasteland also actually feels big. Main issue is soul collecting needs a huge overhaul. Two of the four realms need to be totally overhauled, mechanics need to be added for actually stopping other players from stealing souls, and there needs to be some kind of benefit to actually having a huge realm(Similar to vortex in Warhammer 2.) I would love to see them try and fix Vortex as well, since while not as flawed it has a lot of issues. On a deeper level I think Total War games suffer from the fact that there really isn't any clear progression. Even in the games the AI CAN expand at a decent place, they just can't keep track of the player and it's often too randomized. A lot of people are going to hate me for this but the games should be way more scripted. Playing as the Empire it should basically be guaranteed that you will have to face a massive orc/chaos invasion in the midgame.
>>721921375>Realm of Chaos as a map is honestly fine.Ok I need to see your in-game hours now and how many campaigns you've completed in RoC if you've got that opinion.
>>721921267How does changin the name make more money from existing fanbase?Surely people don't re-buy the same thing because the name changed
>>721921267I'll die before I call Imperial Guard, pffft, "Astra Militarum".
>>721921375>I would love to see them try and fix Vortex as well, since while not as flawed it has a lot of issues.Vortex had ONE problem, and it's that the vortex race was a shit mechanic. They fixed that by just...not making us engage in it with new lords.
do you think Norsca will stop being dogshit? I mean LMAO>a lot of the units have the same model>entire race is based around WoC trash>annoying little shit like Tong and fucking Dolgans being Norscans >speaking of which why not just call the race Northmen and have Tong and Kurgan themed units instead of turning these people into a fucking norscan tribe, too lazy to add more models to the game?>Wulfrik should have the ability Skulltaker has because as now he fucking sucks>Throgg should have access to all trolls + beastmen in fact in the lore he doesn't fucking have humans in his army so he should be like DrychaI legit don't understand what the fuck is the point of Norsca if you want semi naked barbarians just pick any WOC or monogod and you have marauders as your trash if their marauders at least were fast as fuck to represent this more piratical angle they are supposed to have it would be fine but as it is it's a shit faction full of shitters
>>721887830And the mentally ill which includes you
I want to make a hummie-centric Chaos build, so I need myself some Chaos Warrior expansion mods. With archers and shit.
>>721921237>These cool as fuck dudes.>We fight the gross stinky nurgle ones in Vermintide 2
>>721921864In general human chaos factions only get horse ranged and a canon.
Chaos suffers from such fucking bloat it's impossible to fully jihad them because you have>WoCmakes sense, iconic faction>monogodswould make sense if they were daemon only as it stands they barely have identity on their own, why the fuck are their monogod factions if they have mortal units? >monogod WoCthis is just stupid, so we have a monogod Tamurkhan (who is WoC in the lore) and monogod WOC nurglite Festus. What's the point of WOC if you wanna go fucking monogod if the enitre shtick of WoC is having lots of units? That's as if you picked Empire and decided fuck combined arms >Norscacompletely pointless, idiotic faction that's like if you had Reikland as a separate race >daemons of chaosabsolute dog shit with no purpose if you want a daemon themed army just play Belakor they have no real strenghts, they have no real gimmicks they feel like a fucking mod
>>721921328I'm expecting a lot from people that don't play, to be sure. >>721920874The biggest problem with Stormcast is that they just utterly fail to appeal to Paladin-fags. They were too busy chasing the space marine crowd to realize that just doesn't really work in fantasy. The big overhaul did a lot to improve them and actually make them look somewhat more knight like. But the default golden paint scheme and focus on a lack of human flesh makes it hard to really bring out the obvious paladin appeal. Personally, I agree they have no place in fantasy but that's because AoS in general was a VERY deliberate attempt to move away from the more historically inspired and D&D leftover models. Warhammer fantasy WAS basically originally just a excuse for people to take their 80 year war army and play against a army of D&D orks and dwarves. You can see them trying to move away from that in the design of the more recent empire models having a lot of clear empire focused iconography, as well as the scale creep. Cathay is honestly really interesting in that regard because it's very much a pseudo historical army (You COULD probably use the figures for historical games) but it also has a lot of fantasy influences.
>>721921995>generic Chaos warriors>coolThere's a reason why the god-centric factions are more popular than warriors. also Archaon is fucking stupid
>>721922267>>Generic chaos warriors>>coolPick both.
>>721922267This one dude is cooler than all of nurgles Chaos warriors, yes.
>>721921551Norsca is flawed as fuck because as a faction they basically feel like the designers of Warhammer 1 Total War realized "Fuck, 1/3 of the map is basically useless filler". Then they made a race that was basically just Chaos 2.0 but with a different roster. It even has most of the mechanics that you would expect from Chaos (Like being able to pick your god allegiance, highly aggressive confederation, everchosen competition). The actual solution would have been to overhaul warriors of chaos to make Norsca(The region) relevant as early as Warhammer 1 Total War and include all of the mechanics you would obviously expect from Chaos. >>721922112>absolute dog shit with no purpose I like the "My guy" appeal of the faction. But the actual execution is rather flawed.
>>721887698>wh2 was best>every game was you versus 40 settlement tyrion, 40 settlement franz, 40 settlement thorgrim and 30 settlement louenNo thanks, it was on repeat every single fucking campaign no matter which faction you played and there was 0 variety in the endgame. Campaigns where you played as order became instant snoozefests the moment you killed your main enemy faction, the rest were uphill grinds against the same ordertide alliance that would, without exception, confederate half the map before turn 70, ally with each other, crush absolutely all opposition, then proceed to spam doomstacks against you. It was so bad that wh3 gutted all confederations and made alliances much less likely between ai factions
>>721922810Game should mess with faction balance depending on who you play. Ordertide is fine if you play as Naggaroth or Chaos, but if you play as Empire most good factions should be set up to loss.
Lizardmen are fucking boring to play
>>721922267What a nice lady...
>>721908402AoS is fucking cancer reddit tier garbage.
>>721924007Well yeah, because every fight is>tarpit the enemies with saurus warriors>win the trade
>>721924587Hey, sometimes you have a big lizard going crazy in there somewhere too
>>721904532>but they added tretch who was made up for the gameCA massively redesigned him because they're lazy fucks who couldn't be bothered to animate his flail and he really shouldn't have been a LL because he's just a lowly chieftain, but he very much existed before Total War.
>>721922464>>721922474Nah they're just kind of boring.
>>721900712There's been 3 Empire dlcs and 2 helf ones(not counting freebies) with the 3rd coming
Are they finally going to add another LL to Slaanesh or will they just let the whole faction languish?
TZEENTCHES MANY GLORIES
>>721889018Tamurkhan comes to mind>15k health>fast regen>passive aoe damageSoloing entire armies is always fun, skarbrand would be my second choice if not for his abysmal start due to unit losses hurting a lot (shitty hp regen, expensive upkeep and recruit cost)
Archaon's voice fucking sucks in these games
>>721928074Kairos is unironically the most fun I've ever had with the game. And I dont have the dlc that gives him Chosen.
>>721889473malakai isn't tough >cheap artillery that you get for free thanks to his exclusive quests>can do 1k damage across the map really quick>set up camp at demand, hp regen and unit recruitment everywhere>starts with two legendary heroes>also a dwarf which means he's a part of an op factionhe's got hostiles on all fronts, true, but he's more then capable of fucking them up immenselyI suggest any faction in the arabybowl as a challenge run instead, the most dense in terms of LL/m2
>>721918464Clan Skurvy, the pirate rats. Around the launch of TWWH II CA published a short story called All Tunnels Lead to Skavenblight that established Thanquol was working with Skurvy for some unspecified purpose.The story also includes the Grey Seer from TWWH's campaign remarking "a long time before Thanquol dare shows his whiskers before Council now" and I guess sitting here over half a decade later that turned out to be pretty fucking true.
Is the siege rework out yet
>>721889018Belakor cause you can bench the LL and go anywhere with the portals.
I fucking hate how the LL quest fights work bros
>>721930665>It's a six enemy units spawn from either side and behind you halfway through the battle episodeVery creative CA I've never seen that one before.
>>721927827The next DLC includes Slaanesh. It's just taking them almost an entire year to get it out
>>721930665>>721930829Just sacrifice a good deal of your soldiers against a literal non existent army in the campaign bro
>>721887023I'LL HAVE THIS WORLD
>>721916492Most death factions are really cool. Especially the vyrkos vampires and nighthaunt
>>721887023>>721931676
>>721930665>>721930829Wouldn’t be so bad if they were at least memorable in some way. After trying nearly every quest battle, the only one I remember is Skrolk because 20 zombies ambush was kino
>>721889018N'kari is probably my favorite. Auto resolve against Helfs is suicide, so you have to actually win the first few fights and for yourself. If you survive that long, you can either sell the land back to some of the factions and eventually seduce them without fighting, or go on a warpath and have to fight through some challenging odds in the beginning.
>>721889018Aranessa with the Sartosa mod
>>721930829Golgfag's was okay
>>721930829>*turns on God Mode (in battle)EZ
>>721931992This lorelet meme always makes me angry. Huss and Valten defeated Archaon. All grimgay did was appear and do nothing.
They should make an alternate start campaign where all the main factions start out confederated and you can pick your starting LLIdgaf if it's balanced or not
>>721932180I wish they would do fun stuff like that more, like just 60 skeleton spearmen units spawn all at once on one side of the map and you have perfect terrain or something
>>721908402If GW was smart they'd approach CA to make an AoS campaign like how Charlemagne was to Atilla. That might get people more interested
>>721933887Dark elves would 100% steamroll the entire map every single time. CA had to nerf the Malekith AI confederating everything by turn 15 so it won't happen in TW3.
I just finished the Changelings campaign and it was quite possibly on of my worst experiences with all 3 games and an actual fucking slog to get through. By the end of it I just used cheats to blitz through the last of the schemes just so that I could play the ultimate scheme and be done with the game. What the actual fuck were they thinking with his campain? The only thing that even comes remotely close to this level of awfulness is the WH2 Nkai campaign.
I can't fucking believe Wizards of the Coast misspelled his fucking name bros.THE most important character in the setting treated like this - oh but "Illuminor Szeras" of course is spelled correctly, because it's 40k, fuck off
>>721887023what's he up to in 40k?
>>721934575You want to know what they were thinking?>let's make them pay the FLC Lord as welland that's how you get The Changeling as part of a paid package when he should have been like Arbaal and Epidemius from the start.
>>721934641Archy is not in 40k.He was assigned a universe and he destroyed it completely, he's now horsing around in Age of Sigmar.His equivalent in 40k is a guy named "Ezekyle Abaddon" who, notably, did not succeed at destroying his own universe as he was supposed to.You will find him by googling the name "Failbaddon"
>>721934776It's even worse, they decreased the number of lords per pack from 4 to 3 and then increased the price by $5. I'm glad reddit is mad at CA again because they've been absolute shit ever since 3's release even if Thrones of Decay was decent
>>72193464140k is not a sequel to Fantasy.It never has been.Stop this meme.
>>721934602He has multiple spellings of his name depending on the book.
>>721934602Wizards thought it was a good idea to make dozen Miles Morales cards as the next big MtG releas and it's about to be one of the worst sets ever made, i don't consider them intelectual titans.
>>721922267Honestly find the scale of both fatshart games boring, beast of nurgle and a singular chosen warrior being boss battles is boring. I want to fight actual nurgle daemons, not stinky not zombies. This shit is even more offensive in darktide because why would I want to be one of the most weakest, insignificant motherfucker fighting lowtier trash.
>>721934943The only reason Abaddon hasn't destroyed his universe is because 40k is still profitable and so GW haven't had to make an End Times for it. Isn't Chaos currently winning in 40k anyway what with Cadia and the Great Rift?
>>721935206That's Failbaddon's problem: he keeps fighting as hard as he can and getting victory after victory, as the Imperium is weakened more and more....but in the end you look around and realize "wait a minute, you didn't actually achieve anything with all that mess"
Toddy and Middenland DLC when? I don't give a shit about Cathay.
>>721935375The Great Rift isn't an achievement? It's probably the biggest moment in the current game narrative
>>721935423Christmas 2026.We'll get Empire factions with the upcoming End Times DLC.
Explain Bretonnia for me
>>721935746What if Knights intentionally kept their serfs down and resisted the coming of the renaissance, and also worshiped an elf. In fact they based their whole society on the fact that High Elves rode horses.
>>721935492It sounds great doesn't it?Until you realize that the dwindling weakened Imperium now has Primaris marines, two living active Primarchs and the Leagues of Votann are even back
>>721935201>why would I want to be one of the most weakest, insignificant motherfucker fighting lowtier trash.it's fun and makes the setting feel more alive
>>721935869>PrimarisWho gives a shit about bigger marines>PrimarchsThey ain't done shit especially Lion>LeaguesAren't even aligned with the Imperium
>>721935492The Great Rift is just the Polar warp portal explosion from Fantasy.
>>721904532He's too based to be in the game
>>721935746The ritual of becoming a knight means pleasing the Lady of the Lake, which is actually real, and the result is you get superpowers.Your entire society revolves around pleasing The Lady of the Lake and therefore getting more Super-powered soldiers who rule the land.Ignore the other guy saying the Lady of the Lake is an elf.She is, but a fundamental part of Bretonnian culture is vehemently denying that she's an Elf and claiming she's their personal benevolent deity.Pleasing the Lady of the Lake to get more supersoldiers is achieved through crazy stunts and cool factor. If you win a battle and then do a flip with your horse and strike a Jojo pose the Lady is more pleased.Imagine an entire nation that revolves around this.>what about the lower classes?They're PEASANTS, CHURLS and SCUM, and they know it, and they worship the knights
>>721904532Saving the best for last
>>721930665>Hey anon for this mission I want you to defend your friendly faction who's fighting on the other side of the screen, will lose 90% of his army by the time you get units there and is using skavenslave tier units against doomstacks anyways>Oh btw hold this completely fucking random corner of the map too while you're at it or it's a lose
>>721936821That's half the battles. Then there're those like Wurrzag's and Tamurkhan's.>Just walk forward and win
>>721935746
Looking forward to ordering the Herald next week
>>721935423ToT - Q1 2026Nagash - Q3 2027EoS - Q4 2027
>>721935375>but in the end you look around and realize "wait a minute, you didn't actually achieve anything with all that mess"it's almost like the setting is just an excuse to sell models and no side can be allowed to actually win or something....
>>721887124What three desperately needs is a potion of speed update 2.0I can’t believe they did all that work in 2 just to regress in 3.Whenever i mess around in AoW 4 the 2 second turn times it has make my eyes water and make me yearn for what could have been with CA jank.
>>721887158Lizardmen AI can't even recruit units. That a Tomb King character launched with a skill for upkeep reduction is fucking laughable. The current team on WH3 have no vision for the game and it's filled with tiny annoyances that compound into something bigger i.e. the game's a mess
>>721938672>Lizardmen AI can't even recruit unitsWut
uh oh anon, time for another empire campaign! will you pick up?
>>721939032Why play Karl when you can play Gelt?
Still no fucking Thanquol and TWW3 has a skeleton crew, I hate this
>>721939140Gelt also says THE NATION CALLS
>>721939140love both. but at the moment i actually prefer elspeth, she is stupidly powerful as well
>>721939140LORE OF METAL
>>721939308He's coming.
>>721939424I fucking hope so genuinely
What are the biggest differences between 1, 2 and 3 and which is overall better than the rest?
>>721939562they're essentially one big game that builds up one after the other. 2 is the most functional under the hood but has considerably less content than 3 (which has everything from the previous two games). And the modding scene is active for 3.
>>721888085Dmitry's or whatever his name is faction shouldve been numen cultists
>>721939714does 3 run poorly compared to 2? i remember reading people complaining about that but idk if it was fixed.
>>721939308>Thanquol Probably the last DLC. And they are edging that one guy from /twg/ that spams him for years as a joke, I'm sure of it.
>>721939951my rig is quite dated and i can run it on max unit size, high textures no problem. frames tend to dip when im fighting skaven though lol
>>721939951the DLC devs for 2 did some sort of arcane wizardry that did not get transferred over to 3
>>721940048Wait he's still posting? how
>>721939951NTA. Runs ok, but I upgraded my PC so I'm not the best person to answer this anymore. I have lost the ability to gauge things fairly once I have ascended.
>>721940072>>721940094>>721940175thanks
>>721940101I just never stopped, friend.
>>721889473Kislev without cheats is real hardmode. Only thing saving them from total skaven domination by turn 20 is the +6000 defence resources edict and Katrines "lmao, everyone ignore ranged" buff she gets on her units.
>>721940101He is. Don't ask me how, but it's nuclear autism. I made him promise me he would stop posting once the DLC is out. I will hold him to that lol.
>>721939140Karl is actually relatively challenging, Gelt is like, the most powerful faction in the game.
>>721887023We need to be Schizo men
>>721887183Shadow of the Horned Rat > Dark Omen
>>721933128Which one?
opinion on this niggas campaign?
>>721940328Kislev is one of the few actually challenging (at first) factions, most of the others are just mildly annoying and then you just steamroll after turn 40 or whatever. I think Boris was the most fun for me although the starting area is barren and dull lol.
>>721887023It doesn't get any worse than you, Archaon, you are quite literally giga retard tier, a failure unable to accomplish any goal you set up for yourself all while thinking you're playing some 4D master chess.
>>721940538weird but you cant treat it like a regular 'paint the map' campaign. you have to just shitpost your way across the game. he works best in multiplayer with 2 other people. they play and you JUST AS PLANNED everything to their annoyance. this will cost you friendships
>>721940538seems pretty cool, but I miss being able to kill factions
>>721940605Baseline Kislev is a wonderful torture, since the faction gets the short end of the stick due to their hybrid units by others around them.Norscans actually are a threat if they get in melee, since Kislev units kill slow and "rage" gets norscan units quite scary. And kislev, until late-game also sucks at ranged as well as melee.Kislev vs Norsca: You better make use of ranged.Kislev vs Khorne: You wont make use of ranged, lmao. Hope autoresolve saves you.Kislev vs Skaven: Actually quite chill, since hybrid units dont fear the menace belows as much as Empire does. Skaven mages however will fucking brutalize your units.
>>721935746The people with the most awful lives in the entire Warhammer world are, in descending order of horror; Dark Elf prisoners, Skavenslaves, and finally Bretonnian peasants.
>>721920421Yep, with the dual naming as well
>>721921267>Ogorslol
>>721941373Skavenslaves have it ten times worse than Dark Elf prisoners.Dark Elves at least don't have unlimited numbers of slaves, so the ones they do have they need to make sure they're at least kept in working condition for a while, the skaven will throw away ten thousand skavenslave lives on a whim and that won't even impact them.
>>721935746The cool Arthurian legend stuff mixed with Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Also the Grail is real and turns knights into Chosen(good?).
>>721900143>>721900712>>721901404>empire fagsmore like "I want another legendary lord to confederate because the only LL worth starting any game is with karl franz"
thredly reminder that kislev still looks like gorillia nog shit and NEEDS TO BE CHANGED
>>7219399513 runs better than 2.>why are people saying the opposite?Outdated info
>>721942429Kislev is one of the best factions in the game currently, they need nothing.
>>721935746Shota maid dispensary for Wood Elves.
>>721942434interesting
>>721942513thier apperence looks like shit
>>721942513They need to make kislev units as responsive as empire free company militia is, because currently it's torture for anything other than turtling.It literally takes armoured kossars 2 seconds to get their gun out before they even start aiming, and it will take them 2 more if they are told to charge into melee or shift a bit.Try it if you have a chance. Have an all-recruited free company in your kislev army, and just marvel at the sluggish Ness.The entire point of hybrid units is that they can quickly react and use the best for the situation. Kislev has no responsiveness.
>>721921437About 300 hours all spend on realm of chaos maps.Didn't finish that many of them though.>>721921535Vortex had a lot of cool ideas in theory, the main issue with the whole thing was mostly just that there wasn't much you could to intervene with the other players other than physically go there.
>>721922217>>721920874isnt it also a thing that the sigmarines are golems of smegmar who only care about fighting chaos or some shit
>>721943726No, they are actually pretty humanized. More so than Space Marines, even, though don't tell that to Space Marine players.
>>721935746Useful idiots on a societal level.
>>721943772but GHULLIEMAN has a GIRLFRIEND... but is gonna go emo and dark (but still loyalist to empire) and move on to notshadowheart after breaking up with yvevvainsdfas I forgot that baldcunt's name
>>721887023Agreed. I'm not interested in becoming whatever "better" means to the high-roading, man-hating, loudmouth bitch that came up with that line.
>>721943772yeah an army led by women is real "human"
>>721930665I only autoresolve quest battles with the mod. Can't be arsed doing them again if I've already done them before.
>>721944048>yeah an army led by women is real "human"They're superhumans mostly picked because of their resistance to chaos. Besides, most of the actual strategists and generals are male models.Bretonnians can have a women as a general as well. Nobody is going to claim they aren't humanized.
>>721888085Yeah you'd think Slaanesh would get more tankier units who enjoy pain and get stronger when their health is lowLike imagine a big fleshy, scar riddled hulk with a tight metal or leather mask called the gimp who tanks bullets and the more damage they sustain they have unique modifiers. They can't route because they like pain. Like this is simple shit
>>721944193you think stormcast eternals was based on trying to make solarie "grand army version" but utterly failed why people liked the dude?
Chaos is for Losers with no dreams for the future. Chaos is a paradox. It is Chaos that craves Stasis.
>>721944576No, it was a attempt to make fantasy space marines. Either a army of Uther the Lightbringers or good Chaos warriors would have worked better.
>40k has Earth as part of its history>Fantasy is basically fantasy Earth, complete with frenchWhat does Age of Sigmarines have? Realmshit sound gay and lame.
>>721944712Norse mythology.Realms aren't a new idea.
>>721905345Have they added Clan Skurvy yet? There should be at least one Pirate faction for each race.
>>721944193>Bretonnians can have a women as a general as well. Nobody is going to claim they aren't humanized.Literally nobody is going to claim that bretonnia having female generals is acceptable, unless you mean the spellcasters, I don't know if you mean that or if there's some new retcon that makes bretonnia all heckin' feminist and shit. Basing the occasional character on Isabella of Spain or Joan of Arch or Olga of Kiev, exceptions historically significant for how bizarre they are, is not the same as the literal opposite of that i.e., these exceptions being treated as normal. Also, female spellcasters have always been kosher.
>>721889108Apparently they have a big CG trailer coming for the reveal
>>721917151Where did the Black people come from in The Old World?
>>721944830>unless you mean the spellcasterI do.>the occasional character on Isabella of Spain or Joan of Arch or Olga of Kiev, exceptions historically significant for how bizarre they areYes. But AoS is a attempt to move away from a historical background.
>>721945024AoS doesn't take place in the old world.
>>721921493>>721921267>Vampires>"Soulblight Gravelords"
>>721945405*Legions of Nagash.
>>721887756>Total War: 40k.I wish but I'm not sure how significant artillery and ranged weaponry would translate to a game like total war. They'd have to figure out and implement some type of cover system.
>>721945360AoS was born from the destruction of the Old World. Where are the Souls of Black People coming from?
>>721945614Southlands.
>>721945467
When will Mandalore return and save TW3?
>>721889018I simply cannot stop playing as Karl FranzThere's just something so satisfying about making the Empire great again
>>721940538Just read a few posts up>>721934575
>>721945686>NounNoun NounNounsFucking HELL.
>>721946039He actually already said he's working on a video to get up to speed for WH3, so however long it takes him.
>>721946039He's probably waiting for Tides of Torment.
>>721889018Ku'Gath; Nurgle is super strong but you're always heavily outnumbered because of the tight economy; just try going for 3-4 separate fronts and you'll be really working for those wins.You want to go Shattered Stone Isle, Shattered Stone Bay, Dread Rock, Ruin's End, Pig Barter for your opening, the goal is to get Contagion / Blight Boil before taking Ghorst, not strictly needed but it's fun. Also Greasus might confederate those ogres.Send a Cultist to the eastern isles down south and summon Ku'Gath to take your 2nd most profitable province, you can launch a raid to Gelt's backdoor from there later.Cults are a massive waste of money and are never going to pay themselves off, except Magus on the top cities (still not worth it), but research boost is nice (not needed).After Ghorst you want to go west, that's where all the good defeat traits are; Imrik, Tretch and as many Drazhoath as you can farm. Ku'Gath with Tretch, Fused Armor and the speed banner fixes his mobility issues, he's fast as fuck boi now.Keep pushing west, and into at least Halls of Greasus north, because eventually all the Kathay are going to confederate and with Gelt send the entirety of the east towards you, grinding your way through them is the real campaign victory.
Have you guys tried playing a better game?
There's also this if you still want Warhammerhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3082462648
Should I use mods for a first time playthrough?
>>721895986Has WH3 added naval combat yet?
>>721887023>MAN IS EVIL>MAN MUST BECOME BETTER AND MORE EVILhttps://youtu.be/MhmlVvTvo0A
>>721916492>>721917398>while buying a book owner of local store told me AoS is good achtually and insisted I at least try it out, maybe watch a battle report>look up factions, figure that the ghost guys are pretty neat and spooky>read stories about how unfun they are to play against>watch a battle report>slaves to darkness vs slannesh after they got new rules>they all look so unfun to paint>enjoy chorfs on WH3>the models look like shit in my dogshit unfiltered opinionI'll just keep playing vidya.
>>721887183Don't care, luv me elves, if your DLC is only evil races i skip
>>721945024There are tons of black people in the old world, didnt you know? they are in the heart of the empire itself.
>>721916492More than plenty of neat models when 40k gets some real phoned-in ones while 30k sometimes suffers from the sculptor obsessed with trying to leave their mark. Spearhead is pretty popular for a 'play with the boxed set' mode.>>721917151That crossbow is even worse in motion.
>>721951897>Doesn't even fire the actual boltAnd they wanted us to pay for this dogshit? And people DID pay for the stupid warhammer+ exclusive crap?
>>721916492>>721951897It's telling that the only time you'll hear anyone bring up AoS in a remotely positive light (if at all) is in relation to its model ranges. Personally, I think the AoS range tends to skew towards extremes - with things like Hedonites of Slaanesh being overall good work, while things the Nu-Chorfs range being abhorrent dogshit.
>>721916492I generally prefer the realms but I really wish they focused on each realm one at a time rather than just saying here you go make up your own fluff ( which I do enjoy but I get people actively just wish to consume).Undead generally are pretty rad and I think they evolved quite well to be their own thing in AOS.
Hello! Grand tidings!I play Warhammer 3 for the loverslab mods!
>>721887124At least it's over now
>>721952505w-wut
>>721952726You know, Slaneeshi faction mods, corruption mods, unit mods, the like!
>>721952983I see. Please remember to rehydrate between each goon sesh.
>>721937357This isn't accurate because Sir Gilbert doesn't proceed to then beat the peasant to death and then force his family to carry his corpse on display as a warning to the rest for the rest of the week.
>>721953187Of course! What goes out, must first come in!Output logistical efficiency, that's what it's all about.
Which ogre is the most fun
>>721939308ratniggers got enough love alreadyother races need DLC far more than them
>>721916492The deathrattle box they put out recently is kino but I may be biased because I think skeletons are rad
>>721951897>Goy Workslop took down countless fan animations for THIS Can GW go out of business already?
>>721952332I mean, at least on the tabletop front it managed to find its footing after a very rocky start, but AoS's overall setting hasn't really got the same pull or personality despite now being a decade in and it's still kind of coasting off WHFB, which managed to get reignited by two successful series of vidya. Kinda feels like more a sandbox for the sculptors and rules team than anything really concrete.
So what did the lizard rework this patch even change or add
>>721956610Very littleIt wasn't advertised as a rework either, just minor QoL
>>721887023Is he the primary bad guy of WHF? Because he's infinitely less cool than Nagash, Malekith, Mannfred, the rats
>>721956461It won't, because there are paypiggies, I'm betting in this thread RIGHT NOW even, that paid GW for goyhammer+.There is literally nothing that GW could do that would make these people leave.
>>721956809Damn that sucks
>>721927223I disagree. The fact they are brutal black armored barbarian warriors who’ve transcended humanity to bring ruin to the civilized world makes them awesome. They are fucking intimidating and when written by someone competent are endlessly fascinating. GW really only scratched the surface with the potential chaos warriors had with the different cultures and beliefs of the people of the north.
>>721935746Arthurian England mixed with medieval France but 10x more classicist towards peasants
is the gay elf dlc even coming out this year wtf
I can't like twwh because all factions are the samethey are streamlined - all units arre the same, add mechanics are the samesure, units have different stats, but all they do is blob in meleefactions in shogun 2 have more difference between how they play than those in wh for some reason
>>721956610For some reason they continued the trend of putting T5 units at T4 buildings. Except for Nakai lol
>>721961000Trips of truth. Chaos warriors are the best part of WHF.
>>721940334>Karl is actually relatively challenging,What?>kill rebels>take marienburg>liesurely stroll toward sylvania> by the time you've killed vlad, worse case scenarios, very beatable orcs knock at helmgart and festus is fucking up hochland/ostland>just as likely you'll be surrounded by neutral/friendly imperials that you slowly get to confederate for free and can pick whether you want to steal bretonnia back from grom or conquer greece from skragFranz is incredibly comfy and not difficult
>>721962243Chaso warriors are cringe and go down to a single headbuttThis post brought to you by ork gang, get busy krumpin or get busy dying.
>>721951401Black ratmen aren't men.
>>721962386Orks are gay
>>721965346Not physically possible, they reproduce via spores.
>>721942896I think they fulfill different roles. Kossars, especially armored ones, are meant to pincushion the enemy as they approach. They're defensive as are most of kislev's options. Free company are skirmishers. It makes sense to me but you're right that it's possible it's simply due to shit coding.
>>721962386>>721965346>ork>kBy Mork behave yourselves or get a taste of my squid
>>721887869Still impressed sega took one look at this shit and immediately shut it all downFurther depressed by how much CA was expanding just for this garbage
>>721922267Fuck you stinky, generic axe men in heavy metal are cool as hell.
>>721935201The stuff that the gang in vermitnide 2 shoulder shouldnt really be feasible desu so going against demons on the reg would be suspending disbelief
>>721953893Nah, its a solid averageLouen is the goodest guy of the faction and he's willing to petition Thorgrim himself to show mercy to starving bandits. And the worst bretonnians usually turn their avarice outwards to covet their neighbor's lands and titles rather than kill their peasants over hat regulations and shit like that. They'll just use sheriffs to extort even greedier taxes so they can hire mercenaries and blackguards to their flag
>>721949818YesI've bounced off it after a dozen or so turns every time i've tried.
>>721956213Golgfag>Greasus>Skragg
>>721962310Its a well documented fact that Karl's start alternates between piss easy steamroll that autoplays itself and ballbusting torture where you can barely even consolidate your starting province before 5 factions are hitting you depending on the patch.
>>721946623Gotta copyright names somehow!
>>721887183>girl horribly underperformance>suddenly all the girlboss characters get reduced to zerommmhhhh
>>721887869how are we supposed to have any hope for society if a studio can look at this and decide to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on it?
>>721916492I like it, actually, beyond the dogshit names I like the more out there factions that it hasIronjaws have the Big Pig and I appreciate it greatly
>>721958593>manchild von baldstein >cool
>>721973097Tho looks more like wh40k model than fantasy
>>721973109people are gonna have a fit for logar and erebus when tw 40k becomes a thing
>>721973181
>>721973181It really doesn't, if it were 40k that would be a squig
>>721973182>he thinks CA will implement whole galaxy world map and 156 flavors of space marines as their own separate factions
>>721916492I think the Ossiarch Bonereapers look more like what the Necrons should beThey have more of an uncanny, humanoid warmachine puppets look to it
>>721934602>Archaon, one of the strongest/toughest being that walks on two legs, armed with the best armour/shield/sword literal hell can muster>would secure a mutual death with a grizzly bearI know a card's strength lies in more than its power/toughness, but still
>>721973383Hey, he at least combos infinitely with rainbow dash!
>>721956609It ahs two things going for it to differentiate from Fantasy, for better or worseOne is that its setting is more vague, which allows for greater (Your Dudes) potential than Fantasy as you can just make up anything for your army and it will fit in, kinda like 40kBut as a consequence of it and decade of memes from people butthurt over, granted dogshit, End Times and first editions launch being...rough, it hasn't garnered as large of a secondary fanbase outside of tabletop, no loretubers and suchWhile this does keep away secondaries and cancer they sometimes bring, it also means that outside of tabletop its fanbase is...limited
>>721973257it will happen. 40k bucks will make it happen.
>>721973487Having vague settings makes it harder for people to care about any specific event or place
>>721973629Again, for better and worse
>>721935746a warp entity decides to give make some frenchmen who worship it super-soldiers and those frenchmen use their power primarily to control the population of their country through fear>why don't they leavebecause it's warhammer, where the fuck are they going to go that's better? the empire is only marginally nicer and the peasants and told it's awful and they know the rest of the world is filled with demons and monsters>why don't they revolteven if they weren't completely buck-broken, knights could literally punch a peasant's head off, even a nation-wide revolt would probably not be enough
>>721935746frogs gain super powers
>>721974340>warp entityElven god>who worship itEarn the Grail through great quests and deeds>primarily to control the populationKnights were in charge before the grail ever existed, as in real life. Grail knights are used to kill evil bullshit like undead and demons>through fearThrough respect, love, and fear in equal measures.
>>721972771Adding Beastmen was a mistake.
>be me>play with frens>one fren is that one meta fag that love to look up what's the best unit to use without knowing why>his army is just a copy of an online template for the lizardmen>he has, however, no strategy whatsoever so he just bumrush the enemies with his units>declare wars on me>I welcome the units with the wrath of Djaf (doomstack of bone giants)>his entire armies destroyed by the bonebois>he ragequitsDrink your milk, anons
>>721889018oxyotl
Where is he CA you lazy fucks he's literally the chosen of the Great Horned Rat why isn't he in the fucking game yet?
>>721935746What if the Empire but without the empire and akk the cool shit replaced with French
>>721941241Kislev could've been a cool faction but instead they are a collection of gimmicks. It's fine to have several hybrids but its fucking most of their roster and they aren't particularly good at anything either.
>>721897495understandable t. 40k fan
Soooooo uhhhhhhmmmmmmmm there's a corruption mod for the chinese girl right
>>721975923conspiracy time, but because he's in AoS>oh but what about teclis, alarielle etc?that was WH2 and most likely before a GW policy "change" (after all, some high elf models were still sold as AoS models at the time)thanquol has his end times model still being sold as an AoS model, and is an "AoS character", same applies to Nagash and Neferata>but they recently added the changeling, what about him?daemon, cross range faction that always was a cross range faction even if they want to delete them from 40kit's also why a bunch of WHFB factions are "legacy" factions in TOW, because those factions (skaven, lizardmen etc) are being sold as AoS factions
>>721887023GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>721952983why is it always the dragon lady?
>>721973097>that model looks alright>ork on the side just chilling on a platform, realistically would have been knocked off of it immediately when the pige gets goingLmao
>>721887183>DLC is TIDES of Torment>Grand Cathay has Yin-Yin, the SEA Dragon>And the factions are: A Slaanesh faction lead by a corrupted High Elf (who are seafarers), a Norscan (fantasy vikings) faction lead by a trecherous sorcerer AAAAAANNNNNDDDDD... another High Elf lord leading High Elves.
>>721889018skarbrand or kairos once you get the black hole spell
>Put out Vermintide 2>Put out three total warhammer games, all of which increase interest in your setting>nuke the setting and replace it with something profoundly less interesting why did they do it?
>>721887124Yeah they killed their own golden goose for that looter shooter that killed itself before launch
>>721980505they nuked it because it wasnt sellingit wasnt selling because they barely supported itso rather than actually support the game, they cut their losses by killing it off, replaced with a new, simple game (so the american audience can understand it) and added space marinesas fantasy was going to die and they didn't tell anyone, they sold the license off for cheapso those games get made, and come out right as fantasy is dying/died, and those games gage fantasy the boost in interest GW needed before they killed it off
>>721980505They thought that the problem with Fantasy was that it didn't have space marines, so they nuked the setting to rebuild it from the ground up so that it could center on space marines like 40k
>>721980393more like Seething dragon
>>721980181Why?
>>721980393yin yin is a retard that keeps wasting the cathayan navy on stupid shit that gets them all killed
>>721980505You have to understand that GW sees vidya as competition for their plastic sales first and foremost. They'll take the supplemental income they can get by selling the license to the random phone game makers but they don't want anything that they think would detract from selling more paints and plastic. The idea of vidya drumming up interest is hardly a thought in their mind so to them, selling fantasy license to less niche titles as they were closing it down is all upside.
>>721944712>Realmshit sound gay and lame.You're not wrong and it's probably one of my biggest gripes with AoS. It's not a cohesive setting like Fantasy or even 40k
Norscans have retarded lore, how could a light infantry win against Kurgans? With what?
>>721887124It's the campaign AI, it's so fucking retarded in Warhammer 3, certain races like Lizardmen also get wiped off the map by like turn 30 because they don't move at fucking all. You also often see huge stacks just sitting around doing nothing, or allied with someone, you often see their armies just goin to the opposide side of the world for no reason.
>>721980505Fantasy became interesting when it was killed.
>>721980745If you look at differences between fantasy and AoS>nuked all models that they can’t copyright(for example whole Brettonia)>replaced all fantasy names with retarded COPYRIGHT names>replace distinct Fantasy North, France, Germany, China, England with fantasy California that has everything mashed together >niggers, trannies, women EVERYWHERE >smegmarines>MORE SPIKES, MORE BIGGER = GOODERIt makes a lot of sense why they’d kill fantasy
>>721980771what is the lore on the not space marines?
>>721981857Sigmar picks the most badass soldiers and makes super soldiers from them, they also can’t die because Sigmar can summon them again like Chaos gods with their demons.They are like Chaos champions, space marines and Grail Knights mashed into one thing but somehow is lamer than all of them
>>721980745>it wasnt selling because they barely supported itthats the biggest fucking myth out there on par with the space marines outselling the entire whfb range. Gw absolutely were supporting fb, and the people at the time were bitching and moaning about the direction the setting was going. The setting just wasnt able to stand out at all in its time and was overshadowed by 40k and middle earth. >>721981857Sigmar takes jobbers and makes them dedicated jobbers and evertime they job on the job they get their gob dissected by nagash losing their nob to become a bigger snob.
>>721982038>The setting just wasnt able to stand out at all in its time and was overshadowed by 40k and middle earth.And in response they make the most generic and uninteresting fantasy slop imaginable with AoS. Truly impressive. I guess they reap what they sow now with how abysmally unpopular AoS is
Pic related my latest campaign. They changed shit up for number 3 but I enjoy it.
>>721982038GW lost case about another company making some minis for fantasy warhammer because they stopped making those themselves
>>721981857Sigmar was in the vortex the whole time and when he got out, he bound with the Wind of Azyr and basically became the incarnate god of Azyr who, when the world was remade, came to rule over the Realm of Azyr because apparently GW has been reading Brandon Sanderson novels.The Stormcast Eternals (the not-space-marines) are forged from the souls of great human heroes by Sigmar himself and are essentially used as angels to be sent in at a moments notice when summoned by Sigmar with a crack of thunder to fight Chaos.
>>721982161AOS is not generic. Diluted maybe. But the issue most people have with aos is that its not generic enough.
Trench Crusade vidya when?
>>721982269This could literally be used as an example picture of "Generic high fantasy garbage". Since they released it they've had to pivot back towards old fantasy in gradual steps in the hopes of keeping their new slop relevant, and even then Old World is doing laps around them.
>>721982023>>721982038>>721982227part of the appeal of fantasy is the regular man fighting against the absolute horrors of chaos, armed with nothing but steel and the indomitable human spiritspecial snowflake super warriors blessed by the Good Guy God is lamereal space marines get a pass because they're fucked up in their own right
>>721982425forgot about grail knights?
>>721982356>even more pozzed devs than warhammerhopefully never
>>721982510bretonnia has and always will be lamefantasy wasn't built around them either
WHFB wasn't selling because it's a broken as fuck game that isn't fun to play and takes fucking forever to even have a single match, on top of that, you need basically a 4000 point army by 8th edition.Kings of War was the prototype 8th edition that was designed to streamline Warhammer Fantasy and make it far more accessable, but Kirby hated it so the designers fucked off and started Mantic. Then of course, 8th edition is even more of a fucking slog and they change the game to a skirmish game.Realistically, they should have gone Kings of War route with Warhammer Fantasy, and started with Storm of Chaos fucking shit up, but Chaos have now been pushed back and the empire is expanding now, that way we can work in Kislev, Cathay, Araby and the Amazonians, and then brought back Mordheim in a big way as the skirmish game and make Mordheim ultra-grimdark with blanchitsu style marketing, but of course, GW decided to nuke the setting and do Heman mashed with D&D.
>>721982565what happened?
>>721982510they're lame. I think people just get tunnel visioned on them.
>>721982586faggot
>>721979840Using his old WHFB model/art instead of the End Times version would neatly sidestep that issue.
>>721982510Grail knights are cool
>>721982416And Fantasy was actively mocked for it's Low Fantasy world and naming conventions. The real difference is that Fantasy has a fun tapestry of intercharacter rivalries that make the otherwise generic setting interesting.
>>721982565Wasn't it just the discord jannies that started acting out of line as usual? I'm finding it hard to believe that SJW devs would create a unit type that is exclusively made up of naked super nuns that gets stronger the more you hit them.
>>721982686that boneripper looks lame
>>721982727>And Fantasy was actively mocked for it's Low Fantasy world and naming conventionsOnly by secondaries or people who never had a vested interest in the setting and hobby. So it makes sense that AoS shills would push this narrative since 9 times out of 10 they have zero interest in actually playing anything related to it and are just using it as a vessel to peddle their social political garbage.
>>721887124Problem?
A Robespierre-like leader for a bretonnian bourgeoisie revolution faction is exactly what WHF lacks
>>721916492I like the new Skaven minis and the Bonerippers. The Bonerippers makes the Sigmarines look like cucks.
>>721982839>Only by secondaries or people who never had a vested interest in the setting and hobbySo, like you but with AoS.
>>721982995You get French Robin Hood. Brettonia isn't politically designed to facilitate a Revolution like that. Try the Empire.
>>721983050Yes you are correct that I have no interest in an objectively inferior setting that was used to replace one I enjoyed. Astute observation anon
>>721982995I think the peasants know that they'd be fucked without the knights, even if the knights are assholes
>>7218876983 has introduced so many quality of life features, as well as faction updates and world updates, that it's really hard to go back to 2
>>721983187Based. I was the same way with fantasy back when 40K was good.
>>721916492A lot of the antiAoS stuff you hear online is from Fantasy grognards who can't cope with the fact their whole range was selling like shit or from nu-fans who came in with TW/Vermintide and who repeat the same 5 opinions over and over because they wanna fit in.The models themselves are fucking phenomenal, retarded names aside, and since the setting is very "open" they can experiment a lot and you're bound to find an aesthetic you like; this effectively means that you don't really get the same attachment to characters or events like you would for 40k/WHFB but if you're in it just to paint stuff then it's a gold mine
>>721983129There are pieces of lore about a whole lot of special permission for the naval bourgeoisie and baronnies. It could start from there (with secret financing from the southern realms, the Empire, even help from the midnight aristocracy)
>>721982995I don’t care for humans. This would not make me care anymore for them. Put King Arthur from fgo in there and maybe I’ll care for bretonians.
>>721983294>b b but the models!WHFB would get just as good and most likely better models if they didn't scrap the setting and you know it.
WHY ONLY VAMPIRE ALLOWED TO HAVE BIG TITTY BITCHES THAT SHOW OFF THEIR BIG TITTIES
>>721983401>Put King Arthur from fgo in there and maybe I’ll care for bretonians.Spotted the knife eared faggot
so what happened with Trench Crusade?
>warhammer 3 was released 3 years ago >now its the year 2025 of our lord jesus christ>we still have no official word on our dearest nigga nagash
>>721983593Apparently it's woke?
>>721983557they are already getting absolute mogger minissmegmarfags will screech because they dont see a black man here or an obese woman
>>721983294Nothing stops them from making good minis for fantasy
>>721983620They are obviously saving him for last with the end times dlc.
>>721983620Neferata is coming and they said there'll be one last huge DLC next year which is almost certainly End Times, likely with Nagash, Thanquol and the Glotkin
>>721983557Uh no. Direct quote from a white dwarf was that the people behind the setting were to constrained to making fb an exclusively European setting by the fans. It was also a reason why they refreshed/updated elves more than any other race in the setting. Well excluding the wood elves.
>>721983892> were to constrained to making fb an exclusively European setting by the fansLike not-China, not-Mongolia, not-Native American lizards?
>>721983892>fans make cathay/nippon/ind/amazons/pygmy armies since gw refuses>t t the fans force us to only do european factions!! except liggers and tks they dont count
>>721983557I dunno anon, I really wanted TOW to succeed back when it was first announced but I just can't get myself to care about it honestly; and I'm not even THAT much into AoS in the first place, and I'll be the first to admit that their take on Chorfs is fucking dogshitThey do have some cool models, mostly Tomb Kangz stuff, but they're still very rooted in ye olde wargame design where any amount of personality MUST be suppressed in favour of these big uninspiring (and frankly overpriced) armies>>721983714As I said above, people want big scale fantasy battles and their minis are designed for that purposeI would really like a TOW spinoff of Underworlds, with unique models that really flesh out each race's subfactions and elite units, but I strongly doubt it will happen
>>721983630>The of World>that not only failed to compeat with AoS, but struggles to remain relevant against non-GW shitWhat a self own with this one
>>721967973They should honestly be called Gorc and Morc in Fantasy.
>>721983620>still no Dogs of WarGiven CA hasn't even been able to manage one DLC this year, I'm not holding out any hope
>>721984061Bottom looks like Knights of black rose but with niggers.
>>721984194golgfag was the test run for DoWtrust the plan
>>721984194but if you wanna be independent you can play Golgfag hehe "fag"
>>721983294sounds like a badly stringed up universe with no cohesion, then, purely made to sell minissigmarines aside, a lot of the minis look stunning, though, too bad most of the the mini's backstory is egregious
>>721983990Not really good examples. Ogres and lizardmen were both pretty abandoned compared to other ranges (still better than tomb kings and Bret’s tho), and ogres really aren’t Mongolian so much as just…I can’t even really name it. Sure they’re nomadic and you have the one odd bearded ogre there, but they’re really just an extremely blanketed faction who’s designed to be homogeneous to the setting. And yeah I know they have that whole thing about the maw but the first thing I think about ogres are their man eaters and they’re not really Mongolian coded. Cathay also wasn’t anything outside of a fan project of one dude for white dwarf.
>>721887023Curious about TWH but seems to be a lot of bitching here about the state of 3. Am I actually better off just buying 1 or 2?
>>721983990>>721984045Cathy is godawful and lore breaking. And that's with current hostilities between the West and CCP.It only would have been worse if it was made during the "Mist of Pandaria" era of chink dicksucking
>>721984728no
>>721984638Ogres I think are just big pop-culture cavemen with funny yobbish accentsThey wear pelts, make cave paintings, enjoy hitting things with clubs and eating them and co-exist with a lot of explicitly prehistoric wildlife in a particularly harsh part of the world, with lots of blizzards and volcanoesAbout the only Mongolian things about them are that they have yurts, there's throat-singing in some of their in-game OST and they enjoy pillaging not!China
>>721984823Anon please let’s not talk about tow. Everything they claim Aos to be, tow is that to an egregious degree. The people in charge of it don’t even know what the setting is themselves. Which I don’t blame them because the wiki for fb is so contradicting.
>>721984921they look like mongoloids and have their mustaches too
>>721984728The WH3 hate is outdated. On release it was correct but it's been 3 years and the amount of shit they have added and reworked makes 2 look barren. Not to mention the mod support like TOW map.
>>721984495>stringed up universe with no cohesion, then, purely made to sell minisThat applies to 40k and Fantasy as well to be fair, the settings we know and love was originally just an excuse to sell stuff; the fact that both have become iconic doesn't remedy the fact that both settings are filled with inconsistencies and plot holes and other retarded nonsense courtesy of an army of different writers with wildly different takes on even the most basic things.I appreciate AoS because it gives me cool miniatures to paint, their backstory is irrelevant to me because they're all /mydudes/>>721984217Secondary-kun please....>>721984728Nah 3 is still wildly superior, both in scope and QoL People bitch because 3 could've been infinitely superior, that's all
>>721889607they made the dark lands and naggaroth too small
>>721984061Imagine paying money for this.
>>721985018niggers don't belong sorry fag
>>721984921ogres are everything you described and they sport a mongolian (mongoloid) aesthetic
>>721985015>outdated I wouldn’t play wh3 out of multiplayer tbqh dude
>>721983294The undead ghost stuff is fantastic, along with a lot of the beat models.But you cannot deny there is a very blocky World of Warcraft cartoon look to Age of Sigmar, where Warhammer Fantasy has much more smooth, "realistic" detailed models.
>>721980181Ah yes, this is what I want from my warhammerRealism
>>721985174>>721982916You're missing out.
>>721985160Yes, very Mongolian
>>721985217>heroic scale >Realistic Warhammer or middle earth?
>>721984194Same with Monkey King, been teased for like 2 fucking years now.
>>721985278he's just an empireboo
>>721985018I was gonan say fair point since age of shitmar is new, but it's fucking 10 years old already, shit is unforgiveable/yourdudes/ are gay, they'd be better used as proxies for some other game
>>721939032>>721939140>haven't tried playing Empire for over a year>load up some unit mod and do a Karl campaign>apparently you don't have to do the dumbass rebel Helmgart dance anymore>the imperial fealty thing got reworked again>and now theres an actual summon the elector counts buttonTruly the protagonist faction
>>721985278can you link the other 300 models and variants too and label all the ones that also dont have a mongolian aesthetic you ghoulish retard
>>721985278he's culturally enriched, you racist asshole
>>721985278I'm of the opinion that secondaries should be violently raped and murdered. Hell it's not like they don't already have Mongolian looking units in the video game
Ungols and Ostlanders are also "Mongolian". And unlike Ogres they actually ride horses.
>>721981857tl;dr AoS had big Chaos invasion and Sigmar fucked off to his personal place to prepare for retaking, to do that he handpicked some real heroic fellas to fight against Chaos, don't necessarily need to be good fighters one of the named characters used to be a real medic who got murked when trying to fight back with a candlestick, and had them reforged into his own version of chaos warriorsThem existing is a reason for his and Nagash having falling out, other than Nagash being an asshole in general, and since he is still a barbarian they can, indeed, fuck and live sorta normal life when off duty, hell this guy used to be a chaos champion before Sigmarine Prime hit him with a hammer real good, he leads a group of similar guys who got beaten into being good now
>muh MongoliansYou faggots are forgetting about the actual fucking KhanateAlthough to be fair GW did too
>>721887023archaon did nothing wrong
>>721889018Lokhir Fellheart is pretty fun
>>721985443>spoiler Goyim material right there folks. Warhammer settings aren’t worth consuming straight, they’re for making your own narratives. I don’t even care what setting you’re talking about, warhammer or not, if you’re expected to actively participate in it you shouldn’t be sporting your trade marked uber man like an Adidas shirt. It makes you on par with those people that can’t conjur an apple in their head.
Why do people like Archaon but not Abaddon? They are essentially the same guy.
>>721985874abbadons bald. Archy never took his helmet off.
>>721985947Abaddon's got that topknot on his head. He ain't bald.
>>721985536did mongolians ride...whatever the hell those rhino things are caled in their myths?
Kislev and Cathay shouldn't be playable
>>721982995Bro bretonnian peasants are dysgenic subhumans bordering chaos spawn there’s no revolution to be had.As for landed merchants that’s only Bordeleux and they got fuck all going for them
>>721986048they really are annoying to fight.
>>721985217As I said, their take on Chorfs fucking sucks and the only good thing to come out of that release is the amount of money I've savedI think some factions definitely are very WoW-esque (especially Fyreslayers and Bonereapers) while WHFB is far more "Tolkienesque", but the overall quality of especially chaff units is hard to beatI will definitely pick up some Kangz eventually, maybe Druchii too if they do them right (they won't) but the rest just looks unappealing to me>>721985092>>721985080Secondary-friends please, don't embarrass yourselves The Twitter thread is two blocks down>>721985443They've prolly given up on building a very cohesive narrative, it's clear most of the funding goes to their art team at this point but they still publish books in the hopes the setting will eventually catch on/mydudes/ do not engage in any kind of sexual intercourse, homosexual or otherwise, since they're mostly dead and/or dying
>>721985874Abaddon is always a derpy background character in the 40k video games he appears in, whereas Archaon is a vessel for (You) the player to burn the mortal world to ashes with.
>>721986127if you want to talk about mini-niggers fuck off to bluesk..uh..reddit?
do french or germans feel weird when they fight empire and bretonnia? do they feel obligated to play as them?
So why did TWWH3 outsource balancing and bugfixing to ChatGPT? There's no new content either. Where is the money going?
>>721986367Both factions are british as fuck with only meager connections to the French and Germans.
Why do people say CA fucked up with WH3? I have like 2000 hours in this game, which is 1500 more than the next on my list.I've had so much fun with the huge variety of lords and various campaigns over the years I can hardly believe it.Yeah it can get a bit samey if you play it that way (rounding up blobs and nuking them down with magic, for example), but its novel enough to where I keep coming back for moreIMO WH3 is one of the greatest fantasy games ever made, by far.
>>721986405Almost certainly Total War 40kAlso Hyenas gutted them, a lot of them were sacked
>>721985850you are now legally obliged to post /yourdudes/ for curation by the council of retards or be eternally called a faggy cocksucker, step up, bitch
>>721986473This is called sunk cost fallacy
>>721986405>So why did TWWH3 outsource balancing and bugfixing to ChatGPT? There's no new content either. Where is the money going?Because people like this>>721986473will buy anything they put out, and at worse cry a bit on the steam forums if they think it costs too much
>>721986454The Empire? Maybe but I thought Bretonnians were French as fuck
>>721986473>>721982916Agreed.
>Lizardmen promised re-work actually breaks themFucking CA
>>721986268Sorry secondary, but wwarhammer is a miniatures game, all four of themYou can go consoom star wars if you want
>>721986516you're implying I only like the game for 2000 hours worth of playtime because I spent money on it?
>>721986541Bretonnia is just early-to-High middle ages EnglandEnglish peasants ruled by the French
>>721986568it's two guys in Sofia
>>721984061there's a black there, discardedof course they were going to insert sub saharans
>>721986541They have french accents and they used to be more french but they got fully overhauled to be Arthurian, Lady of the Lake worshipers. They used to have a bitching navy but now they are full horse.
>>721986625No, something more valuable than money, time.
>>721986646CA upper management are absolute retards, they have licence to print money with TW:WH it's reinvigorated an entire setting, it's probably the only game keeping CA afloat right now and they've palmed it off to a skeleton crew.
>>721986127Why do you keep posting images from GW's shop instead of your own minis? Do you think you're being subtle?
>>721986720my theory, besides usual suit fuckery, is that CA HATES working with GW so they tried to evade their clutches
>>721986664anon King Arthur fought against anglo saxons
>>721986606>Sorry secondary, but wwarhammer is a miniatures game, all four of themTW:Warhammer is bigger than miniatures of fantasy or AoS
>>721986127>secondaryYou actually want to paint that over-designed piece of trash and play with it in public? Not even getting into the fact that they have obese women and niggers front and center as the cavalrymen of a clearly Thirty Years War Holy Roman Empire inspired army, you actually like those fucking designs?
>>721986606fuck off to /tg/ then fag
>>721986760It wouldn't surprise me, I can imagine GW are a bunch of absolute wankers to deal with.But still, absolutely shitting the bed here from CA
>>721986662You don't have to paint them black you know. They are YOUR guys.
>>721986839add to that the game engine is held by prayers and spit. I can almost, ALMOST, pity them.
kislev and cathay are not even tabletop factions why have them at all
>>721986776You think a single brit at GW acknowledges that?
>>721986898for the old world release and they needed to flesh kislev out for chaos. Not-china is probably to pander to the bugs
>>721986568CA proper isn't working on TW:WH anymore, they've moved Warhammer 3 development to their Bulgarian labor camps.
>>721986776King Arthur probably didn't even exist but the popular depiction of Arthur for the last I don't know 600 years has been as a typical British person
>>721985874Abaddon is a jobber
>>721986891they're still going to have bantu features (prognathism, wide/flat nose, enormous lips) and nappy hair if you paint them white, idiot
>>721986898Because they wanted them for The Old World (which was probably delayed) so the release didn't exactly line up but for whatever reason they've got cold feet with Kislev and Cathay is just therre for chink pandering
>>721986981still laughing they genuinly pulled the "please small company please understand". The sieges are still horrendous
I hate gunpowder units. Any small hill, cant shoot. Any friendly units in front of them, can't shoot. Enemies have a open path to you, can't shoot, gotta run.
>>721986898>CathayThat's where you're wrong
>>721986734>my ownAnon I don't own Chevaliers nor Chaos Legionaries, how would I post them in the first placeI'm trying to make a point, not flaunt my (admittedly large) e-penis>being subtleAbout what, we're just talking hereI don't think GW can afford shilling on 4chan>>721986891You're not supposed to engage with secondariesEveryone who's ever picked up a brush knows these boxes come with head variants and full helmets, it's obviousBut it's more fun to point and laugh at them for trying THIS >>721987023 hard
>>721986981>least miserable bulgarians
>>721986898What's wrong with fleshing out that fuckhuge world more? The entire continent of Naggaroth is barely touched.
>>721986997he was a native Briton in the lore like the Welsh and not an anglo just because english cucks like him doesn't make him one of them
>>721987115Because it ends up ruining the setting. TOW would have been fine if they just brought the minis back alone but they keep fucking up old lore and dont get started on cathay
>>721987089>But it's more fun to point and laugh at them for trying THIS >>721987023 hardwhere am i wrong? do you think sub saharans look identical to caucasoids besides skin color?
>>721987174This series has changed shit a hundred billion times. If you aren't used to it by now that's on you.
I have no idea what the fuck am I supposed to do in early game as Kislev, my cossacks just get fucked
>>721987142>he wasn't [insert northwest european ethnicity], he was [insert northwest european ethnicity]
>>721987023I'm not familiar with AoS but I know with 40k kits come with multiple heads of your choosing and the features are all universally white or are ethnically vague at worst. I don't recall ever seeing a head bit and thinking "hey this guy is black"
>>721987217Do you not understand what "helmet/head variants on sprue" means? Do you need me to write it in Hindi so hopefully you'll make out some of these complex words? As I said, the Twitter e-celeb thread is two blocks down, so go back and stay there
>>721987368You could sum it up with this desu >he wasnt this [head swap], He was this [headswap]
>>721987368>there is only one race, the human race :)kill yourself
>>721973079I have hope for society.I just have no hope for the top 1% who's in charge and thinks Hyenas is what gamers want - or worse, think it's what gamers need and must be shoved down their throat.
>>721986787It can't generate even 1/10th of the plastic's revenue for GW, so GW doesn't realy give a shit about it
>>721987425so, everytime i buy i kit i have sub saharan heads to discard everytime, therefore i'm wasting some money
>>721987554That's typical of the hobby. Everyone has mountains of spare bits. You should know that.
>>721987502>GW doesn't realy give a shit about itThey literally fully fleshed out a faction that only had like a single paragraph of lore for these games. They didn't just say do whatever we don't fucking care they held CA's hand throughout the whole process.
>>721987554You're not buying anything because your daily salary of 23 rupees is offered to Ganesha in the hopes of a good harvestYou're a secondary, maybe stick to discussions where your kind isn't reviled and stop bothering us decent people
>>721917151That looks rad as hell>>721951897and that looks lame as fuck
>>721987479>>721987471welsh, irish, english, scottish and bretons look identical to each other and are genetically almost identical
>>721987554MOUNT THAT SHIT DOWN FOR SPRUE GLUE YOU FUCKING SECONDARY NIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>721987723>Genetically identical>3/4 are Celtic >1 is distinctly GermanicAmerican education
>>721987658no i don't, i always find some use for everything>>721987697>jeet accusing other posters of being jeets
>>721987479when there are elves dinosaurs ogres orcs and literal hell demons they might as well be. Im hardly gonna care for the humans if those other things are present.
>>721987754the engish are 10% more germanic than the welsh, irish, scottish and bretons
>>721987789You're so full of shit. Just use the nigger head for a battle trophy or use it for sprue glue or something.
>>721987910anon he doesnt even know the difference between plastic glue or plastic cement.
>>721987754>English>distinctly Germanic
>>72198797010 rupees have been deposited to your account>>721987910how many battle trophy do my knights need?and why would all the trophies be negro heads?do they come from a crusade in a tropical jungle?
>>721988101Ah so you really are a jeet, good to see my insult found fertile groundI will never understand, entering threads and flooding them with shit just to derail civil discussions, but your kind doesn't know any betterKindly stop coming to this website
>>721988212I really hope they get a ccp style firewall at some point.
>>721985874Archaon got results beyond "I may have failed my stated objective but I was actually totally doing 5d chess the entire time" and "I nearly had a mutual kill against Eldrad in CQC". Said actual results are the crap that is The End Times and I personally think Archaon reads like a deviantart OC but the bar to be better than Abaddon is subterranean .
>>721988212no but you're definitely a jeet hence why you need rupees
>>721988212>>721988268We don't care about your castes here, go back to india, your brahamin status doesn't give you any benefits here
Are there any games where you can be better women?
>>721987723you know Welsh and English fought each other right?
>>721989030princess maker
>>721887183Why not have a complete game in the first place instead of dripfeeding garbage lords for "content"
