Which clan are you picking first? I'm thinking Lasombra
>>721888004I'm picking Nosferatu in a better game.
>>721888004>Playing this shitRofl Roflmao
I don't know.Which clan of these blood sucking monsters best encapsulates my modern leftwing politics? I don't want to pick a nazi clan by mistake or something.
Probably Tremere, but wearing Lasombra outfits.
Malkavian...
>>721888004Can't wait to play either one of my 2 favorite clans from the original, Gangrel and Nosferatu!
Please stream your imminent suicide.Don't let your life go to complete waste.
>>721888004Banu Haqim
>>721890558What is the point of Gangrel over Brujah? And what is the point of Nosteratu in v5?
>>721890647>arab/african vampire clandisgrace
>>721888004Judging by gameplay vids it's west coast troon coded. The early 00s urban fantasy vibe is gone completely.
>>721888004>Which clan are you picking first?Uninstall wizard
>>721888932What?
>>721888004Not buying it, not pirating it, not playing it.It doesn't matter what you "pick", it's just a costume. Nothing about this horrible turd of a failed abortion matters and all paid shills need to have their skin flayed off and get dunked in hydrochloric acid.
>They/them pronounsWhy did they do it?
>>721891015What's wrong with that? Are you racist?
>the novels suck>the detective game sucks>the battle royale sucks>:... BUT THE SEQUEL WILL BE GOOD
>>721891217Seattle is on the west coast of the US, yes.
Sexy club bitches confirmed.
>>721889341Brujah
One of the official inspirations for Bloodlines 2 is Hit-Monkey. Makes sense.
>>721888004No Elif. No buy. Simple as.
>Had to backpedal their day 1 paywallReal fucking shame, that.
lol aren't clans day one DLC? On what alternate kike earth do you think I would play this?
>>721891351You heared me, faggot. I'm doing a yearly vtmb replay and rolling a low humanity nossie this time.
>>721889341Don’t worry, anon. All of them will be different shades of left, you’re safe to punch nazi chuds and hurt bigot feelings ;)
It's gonna be great
>>721893353Lou hates socialists, though.
>>721893237People got so angry that they managed to make Paradox roll back their day 1 DLC plansYou are still correct, do not play this. Or at least don't buy it
>>721893132It was a self-created problem because they shifted all the planned story DLC content into the main game. Originally they didn't have 6 clans. They only had plans for 4.
>>721891632INDEED
anyone got a link for the original+patch+mod?
>>721890647>Banu HaqimHow the fuck do I keep getting this clan taking the online quiz when I'm trying for Tremere?
>>721894590can vamps even have piercingsaren't their bodies constantly regenerating
>>721893313What game?
>>721894732V Rising
>>721894656I remember that their bodies regenerate only to the point of their death, so she probably had them before so tzimice or whatever their name is were useful. Although I'm getting my info from V3 and V5 doesn't really care about restrictions.
>>721894885>their bodies regenerate only to the point of their deathSo when the Baron whose name I forgot said he turned Ash to save him from dying from an overdose, that means Ash is now permanently in a state of ODing on drugs?
>>721894927
>>721892317A shame none of the main characters are sexy
>>721895135Nor is anyone in that image anon, stop replying to marketers
>>721894529Is that supposed to be Phyre's sire?
>>721894805I gotta be honest, the environments do look comfy
>>721894981Ey, nigga, I'm just quoting v3 book
>>721894981Drugs don't affect vampires unless taken indirectly through blood.
>>721895189Unclear. I've been reading the Diablerie source-book. It speaks of a character named The Wanderer. I don't know what to make of it all. The figure in the garden says, "How weary is the wanderer that treads upon the fertile soil."
>>721895135>>721895178Ryong is sexy in a corpo-mommy way.
>>721888004If it's passable then Ventrue. Love being a Vampire Man in Black
did they explained why phyre (what a shitty name lmao) is named that?
>>721894656Depending on the edition Vamps can make a Willpower roll or spend a blood point to make minor aesthetic changes such as hair style or piercings permanent
>>721895189>>721895472The problem is clan. It's possible you're not actually the clan you claim to be. (Having no curse/bane is suspicious.) The man in the garden is supposedly a Malkavian. So he can't be Mictlantecuhtli.
>>721895795Bane?
>>721895081
>>721888004Does the protag still look identical no matter which gender I choose?
>>721895702There's a poster at the start with that band name on in
>>721895938lmao ok fair enough
>>721895932It's insane, especially that all the marketing only shows the femMCThey clearly wanted to make a game about a stronk powerful womyn and then someone told them a Vampire game is supposed to have character customization so they half-assed it
>>721895702It's a ruse cruise that will become apparent in time.
>>721895932kinda
>>721895932its not
>>721896035>>721895989Hate western devs so much it's unreal. It's like Sifu except that game had at least one good looking protag, in this one both look like absolute ass.
>>721895989You're mad about something you totally invented in your head.
>>721895932No.
>>721888004I larp as invisible Nosferatu by not buying or playing the game at all.
>>721896209based
>>721896209Yeah someone already made that joke, champ
>>721896132Yes.
I WILL install coomer modsI WILL sexooooo all the cute vampire girlsI WILL mod all the wokerie out until this looks like WEG tier degeneracyand I WILL WIN
femphyre actually looks decent with the tremere getup
>>721888004Tremere because only thing i need in bloodlines 2 is uninstal wizard
>>721896371Imagine being this retarded.
>>721896132what's the point of not choosing female, the male version looks like a cheap dyke anyways
>>721895851Clan curse
>>721896629newnigger
>>721896662U UU U
>>721896576Hideous dyke no matter who I pick. You Paradox shills are way better at shilling other games.
>>721896780How would you go about designing male and female versions of the same character?
>>721896576https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/719358871/#719358871Yep definitely not a gay nigger
>>721896880Like this>but they don't look similar!And?
>>721896880Idk maybe make them look distinctively male/female?
>>721896989>>721896990They don't look like the same person. They need to look like male/female siblings.
>>721897029Says who? Newsflash, siblings don't look like androgynous copies of another.
I hate vampires
>>721897029>They need to look like male/female siblingsWhy?
>>721896662>A fucking banefag calling anyone else new
>>721897068A lot of siblings do in fact look like male and female versions of each other. Why do you think disguising yourself as your opposite sex sibling is relatively easy? You have the same facial structure.
>>721897138Because they're the same person. It's like asking why you can't customize their facial structure. Because that's the character. That's what they look like.
>>721897167>Why do you think disguising yourself as your opposite sex sibling is relatively easy?Your mind has been warped by anime or some shit.
>>721897232>Because they're the same personDo they exist at the same time within one person's game?
>>721891645>>the novels suck>>the detective game sucksWhat?
>>721897167>Why do you think disguising yourself as your opposite sex sibling is relatively easy?I wonder if shilling for Paradox makes you back yourself into retarded corners like this where you accidentally reveal your fetishes, or if you have to be a completely deluded schizo with thoughts like this to shill for Paradox in the first place
>>721896780isnt this dyke basically johnny silverhand and not even your own character
>>721897232Mass Effect did properly, I don't think the conversation needs to continue beyond this. There's no reason for both to look like androgynous uggos. You're the most transparent shill I've ever seen.
>>721897521No, Mass Effect's mistake was adding male Shepard in the first place.
>>721897632ok troon
>>721894336My reactionary chud wife
>>721897467Are you denying that it's easier to impersonate someone you share facial similarities with?
>>721889341Toreador or BrujahMaybe techno-Tremere
gonna be epic
>>721897760Shut the fuck up shill. You're thinking of twins, to start withNo more (you)s, better go post another marketing image
>>721888004>what clan you pickingPicking Toreador in the ORIGINAL vttmb because this sequel looks like dogshit
>>721897760You can't possibly be this delusional. Am I talking to an Indian?
>>721897963I never understood the difference between Toreador and Ventrue in gameplay
>>721897867>You're thinking of twins, to start withNo, because male and female twins aren't identical. But they are similar. (That's how siblings work, BTW.)
>>721898010>ToreadorRedheads>VentrueBlondies
>>721897232Male V and Female V from Cyberpunk 2077 could look wildly different from one another. Hell, V is the same character no matter how you made him look. Why couldn't this be the case with Phyre?
>>721896132I see a dyke in the top and a tranny in the bottom
gangrel…
>>721898262Because it's made by a walking sim dev who begrudgingly added a male option
>>721897075Wtf? You're literally me
>>721898262Because V is basically a blank slate create-a-character. The Nomad is not. They are Turkish. Period.
>>721888004Gangrel. >nopeMalkavian?>nuh-uhInto the trash it goes.
>you must play as a roach…
>>721898373>The Nomad is notSo why doesn't the dev know the gender of the character?
>>721898304That seems like a major fumble from Paradox, especially since the source material is a TTRPG...a medium that's all about player choice.
>>721898373V isn't a blank slate. Backgrounds aside, they're a lot of points where he fleshes out background details about himself depending on stat allocations. There's a line he says after you pass a tech skill check where he mentions being a roadie for a band.
>>721898474Paradox literally said they hate this shitty fucking game and never wanna publish an RPG again
>>721898607Forgot the linkhttps://www.ign.com/articles/paradox-chinese-room-vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-sequel-someone-else
>>721898716That's grim. That's why all of the gameplay feels really off. It looks like it plays more like Dishonored than an rpg.
>>721898897Pretty much. You know they fired the entire dev team who tried to make it an RPG, right?
>>721898954Had no idea. Who's this game even for then? Are they just gonna write this shit off?
>>721899069Normalfags who want an action RPG experience and go "wow this is that franchise I heard so much about it must be good" I guess
>>721898089>differenceVenture use buff/debuff + dominate and Toreador are sonic speed ranged characters that can also go charisma to get through quest dialog but also can feed on anyone unlike Venture
>>721898716Paradox is such an awful publisher I can't believe anyone wants them.
>>721898716>But, I mean, I think it's fairly clear, at least to me, and I think to you, even in the best of cases, Bloodlines does not have a super long shelf life.>not a super long shelf lifedudes talking like one of those steam player chart posters, what an absolute faggot...I really hate what the industry has become
>>721896412Based.
>>721888004This game would be better if it were about Frasier taking calls from discontent vampires
>>721896412All of them?
Give me a hunter that falls into violent obsessive love with a vampire
>>721898309 No seriously, do you also stare blankly at character creators for 45 minutes only to remake the same dude you've made for the past decade and then delete the save halfway through Act 2?
>>721889263https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPtAiLxBDh4
are there any stats to level up and such?
>>721888004TremereTrans phyretime to play
Why did Jack do it?
>>721900104What will transpire with trans Phyre the vampire?
>Cain, you are the first human who murdered somebody>as punishment, you are now immortal and a demigod
>>721900415Actually that was lilith that gave him powers
>>721900415Listen, God is patient and Cain WILL learn his lesson and you WILL be happy
>>721897753chud milf
>>721900725Why does all of humanity have to suffer so Cain can learn his lesson?
>>721900637Never liked this cope but even then you can just say that God "cursed" Cain with magic blood that makes him instantly able to learn true magic and effortlessly practice his own variant of it without any known natural inclination or need of true willpower.His only real curse is having to avoid the sun.
>>721900895"lollmao"
They should let The Chinese room make The Darkness 3 in addition to also making Bloodlines 3 and also they should remake Deus Ex.
>>721900895It's ok, God simply reloads his first save and everything starts over
>>721900415>as punishment, I'm gonna deny you eternal rest and I'm going to force you to feed upon your children and watch them kill eachother for petty reasons again and again until the end of timesDoes it sound better now?
>>721901041Damn, that's dark. Previously I was thinking God is like playing the Sims or Sim City, where you throw disasters on your citizens just for funBut if we're in a timeline where he's messing with the NPCs and intends to reload the save, that's even more grim
>>721900929all of the disciplines are considered to be curses aswell, every facet of vampiric existence is supposed to be a curse. dominate removes empathy, potence removes gentleness, obfuscate removes the vampire from history etc.
>>721901063>feed upon your children and watch them kill eachother for petty reasons again and again until the end of timesHe never gave a fuck, hence why he's been embracing antediluvians left and right
>>721901063Didn't he make a city where vampires where worshipped as gods and he had a whole cult to feed him blood
>>721901203Caine only embraced three people, who then embraced the thirteen antediluvians.
Weren't all the clan curses laid upon the antediluvians by Caine too as punishment for eating the second gen? So not even those came from God
>>721901203>>721901303That's both speculative. After all, history only remembers 2nd and 3rd gens who DID something. Maybe Caine embraced more, but those people died or were satisfied doing nothing.
>>721888004will you be playing Vampire Scrolls: Redemption?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-0DA42c1-o
Anybody talking about Caine and Antediluvians in here?
>>721891015well i'm a filthy sandnigger
Im picking the clan that wont buy shitty games from shitty devs hired by shitty corporations.
>>721901541I'll absolutely give it a go. It's a shame that Activision were total uncooperative jackasses about letting it be a normal remake of Redemption, though. Paradox were not exactly supportive, but it was more of a "they didn't say no" kinda situation.
>>721888004Will they pay me to play this trash?
>>721901448Noddism is basically canon as of Revised. It's retarded to pretend otherwise.
>>721894981When embraced a Vampire expunges all toxins and foreign objects from their body
The twist is going to be Fabian is actually the elder and you're actually the diablaristThere saved you $89.99
>>721901813It's only a twist if anybody cares about the dumbshit story
>>721901541Yes, I look forward to this even tough it's skyrimjank.
>>721901813There are problems with that explanation. Something is absolutely up with "Lord Fabien" yes. But you are seemingly quite old.
left wingers on /v/ genuinely thought this game would be goodthey actually did hahaha
>>721901960It's pretty much guaranteed to end up on a bunch of best games of the decade lists, to be fair.
>>721902036no it isn't
>>721901960what do politics have to do with this?
>>721902092Oh, yes it is. It's literally Bloodlines 2.0. Exact same criticisms, exact same "this is guaranteed to be a beloved cult classic where all criticism is shouted down" observations.
>>721902154the devs of the original version of the game, day 1 one reveal that it was being developed basically said they were going ot put in a bunch of cringe woke shit (particularly gender stuff). left wing idiots spent a lot of time defending this saying it wouldn't turn out shit. lol.>>721902203nah
>>721902309what is the cringe woke shit that they put into the game?
>>721902309>None of these flaws add up to a disaster. After the tortured development Bloodlines 2 has endured, you might have come to expect a complete trainwreck, and this isn't that. I don't think traversing the city or punching its many insomniac thugs is fun, but it all basically works as intended with a minimum of bugs. It's frustrating at points, but not infuriating—and if we're being frank, that's more than can be said for its predecessor.>And like the original, how much you're able to overlook its flaws will come down to how much its dark world and brooding characters resonate with you. As I said up top, I think a certain kind of person is going to fall completely in love with this game for those things, and wave off these mechanical complaints as minor.https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2-is-richly-authentic-intriguingly-written-dripping-with-brooding-atmosphere-and-not-very-fun-to-play-unfortunately/
>>721902329idk i haven't played it have i faggot
>>721902203will probably have worse writing, and that was the saving grace for Bloodlines along with the Vibes
>>721902309>the devs of the original version of the game, day 1 one reveal that it was being developed basically said they were going ot put in a bunch of cringe woke shit (particularly gender stuff). left wing idiots spent a lot of time defending this saying it wouldn't turn out shit. lol.How is that relevant considering the previous team was fired?
>>721902446because the people who own the IP are scum
>>721902509less Scum and more completely apathetic and careless with the IP so they leave it in the Hands of Hard-core Scandinavian LARPers
>>721898309Bro, I just want a hunter game as long as it doesn't have the retarded "le hunters are le real monsters" bullshit
I wonder how the story choices work. We know the first big story choice is killing Benny (the leader of the anarchs want this) vs capturing Benny (his sire and the camarilla want this). But what happens after that? What is the impact of the choice? Does it lock you out of some quests?
What's the most fun way to kill a vampire?
Apparently there's going to be daily news updates in October.
>>721904187more like daily jews am i right
>>721904187Nigger they're not gonna bring out daily news that they haven't already given you in the marketing briefing
>>721904187Why I don't think trying to shove Bloodeslines 2 into people's faces will make more people buy the game
>>721895472There were vampires in pre-contact Americas?
>>721904751Yeah, there were even special pre-coliban bloodlines of certain clans and were assisted with certain pre-coliban cultures and myths, but it's a rather underdeveloped compared to the Liabon in Africa or Vampire clans in Europe, the Middle East and India.
>>721904315anitsemitism is not okay bro. we are under attack daily from muslims trying to exterminate us
>>721904385https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/world-of-darkness/month-of-darkness
/v/ will end up loving this game. Screencap this
>>721905231>only thing that can expose a vampire in normal circumstances are their fangs>they keep intentionally flashing themthat's the one thing that always struck me as strange
>>721905071>Join us every day in October 2025 for freebies, news, and community fun! This year, our Month of Darkness has a special Seattle theme to celebrate Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 release.So it could be a bunch of splats related to having games set in Seattle
>>721905365nah you can get fangs now
>>721904984I would like to know more. Please name a few clans or bloodlines like that so I can google and research.
>>721901951The problems with it are that it's a retarded twist. But something being retarded hasn't stopped TCR from putting in it in their game so this will be no different.
>>721905485I wanted those so badly as an edgy 90s teen.Still do, desu.
>>721905485what a well adjusted individual
My hopes are for this game to be the Deus Ex: HR of the VTM games. Lesser than the OG but still a decent time.On the flip side I'm fully expecting this to be unplayable garbage
>>721902930Give me a hunter game that starts off as a detective rpg and gaslights you constantly when weird shit happens and makes you seem like a paranoid nutjob until half way into the game it starts to show you it's actually a WoD game. Also the game is advertised as a tactical shooter and not a horror game.
>>721901002the fuck is that crawl animation
Thinking Lasombra. Can you even be anti-camerila in this game (no, i dont want to became part of the faggy anarchs either).
>>721906359Clearly mimicking The Darkness.
>>721905918you're the one crying about a video game in your 40s
>>721906359THE CRULLER
>>721906249It's gonna turn into a shooter at the end unless you want to go with the stealth approach and car bomb an elder
>>721906249I have no idea what H5 is even like.
>>721905994Yeah same. Probably gonna suck but if it's a 6/10 I'll take it.
>>721905816There aren't that many, I think it's just the Tlacique, and then it's just generic Gangral and Nossie's.i think there are a couple of fan books on the subject but you would need to ask the /oWoD/ general on /tg/ for more info
>>721907393it's bad
>>721906249literally just
>>721907393It's an inferior take on Hunter: the Vigil, but even worse because it's made by modern White Wolf.
>>721907393It was dead on arrival and no one played or plays it, but the intended gameplay loop is supposed to be about a group of passionate, independent hunters dealing with a supernatural threat to their community, while also trying to fight off and oppose "orgs," groups of hunters who sold out and hunt monsters for religious, political or financial reasons instead of for altruistic reasons.
>>721907393none of the new tabletop editions are good, they may have SOME interesting bits in them, but generally they're just steps back. I dread seeing how they'll butcher mage next.
>>721908048>but the intended gameplay loop is supposed to be about a group of passionate, independent hunters dealing with a supernatural threat to their community, while also trying to fight off and oppose "orgs," groups of hunters who sold out and hunt monsters for religious, political or financial reasons instead of for altruistic reasons.Ok, that does sound like crap
>>721894651different kind of autist who also uses Blood Sorcery?you're ALMOST a Tremere, but you're too loyal and law-abiding for the Pyramid.
>>721908546Because kinds of Hunter that exists in H:tR doesn't really have a place with Second Inquisition now kicking around. They'll just get bagged along with everyone else.
>>721905485She got way hotter with her new fangs
>>721908832she also put on makeup to make her eyes bigger
>>721908048>while also trying to fight off and oppose "orgs," groups of hunters who sold out and hunt monsters for religious, political or financial reasons instead of for altruistic reasons.So they try to lock the player into one morality and point of view, instead of letting them be any type of hunter they want? What narrow thinking, like they lack creativity or are trying to push a political viewpoint.
>>721908832That's true for all women tho.
>>721905485>have to learn to chew differently jaw is gonna get fucked up over time probably
>>721909190Mate. Sabbat wasn't playable in their own fucking sourcebook because they thought they were "too evil".
>>721896780>>721896576i can very easily distinguish male and female.
>>721900929His curse is to watch his children being faggots to each other and humans for eternity, instead of building and creating something something better (that divine spark of creativity that traditions go on about awakening all the time). He failed miserably with his attempts at playing benevolent king in the first city, and just fucked off after everyone turned into a murderhobo.
>>721909190>So they try to lock the player into one morality and point of view, instead of letting them be any type of hunter they want?They did the same with V5 where they basically always expected players to be Anrach Thin Bloods
>>721908546The World of Darkness is full of hunter organisations with all sorts of cool backgrounds and gimmicks and quirks, but for some reason Paradox decided to make a version of Hunter where you're not allowed to join any of them, where you just play local hunters looking after their local communities and you immediately become an NPC if you sell out by joining any of the cool organisations. Really weird choice.
>>721909350WTF are you talking about, I played in a Sabbat campaign in the 90s. I don't remember much of the sourcebook, but I never got the impression it was just for creating antagonists.
>>721909541he's talking about v5, where sabbat wasn't even included in the core book.
>>721905485Gods. The thought of her biting into my 9 inches and draining my life force with those fangs before I get an infection and die in the ER has me bricked up beyond belief
>>721909613Jaysus, is there any way in which V5 isn't a complete shitshow? Do they think their core audience are preteens who need to be lectured on morality?
>>721888004Sad reality is this game is D1P for me because I have to see how bad the trainwreck is. Probably Tremere.
>>721909739>Do they think their core audience are preteens who need to be lectured on morality?Their core audience was the Nordic LARP scene.
>>721909739also intended to respond to >>721909502
>>721909826Why would they think people who like to LARP as Vikings wouldn't want to play the bad guys in their other LARP?
>>721908546Whaaaa? You want to run a campaign where you're a part of something bigger, taking on a bigger threat? Sorry, you gotta protect the local corner store from shitter vampires
>>721909739>is there any way in which V5 isn't a complete shitshow?nopeVampire sidesteps Gehenna in the most awkward way possible, and does really dumb shit to shake up the status quoHunter is just straight up boringWerewolf tries to downplay any mildly offensive thing about their lore, except with the Get Of Fenris, who have their redemption from their white supremacist past completely retconned and made into pure evil. Wyrm-tainted Neo-Nazi monsters(and also the only ones actually doing anything to stop the end of the world, because White Wolf can't write for shit)
>>721909350What the fuck did they do to Lucita, she always was an edgelord, but never this cringe
>>721909826How do they know the "Nordic LARP scene" even exists?
>>721909190H5 basically moans about "selling out to big orgs" as much as it talks about hunting monsters.
>>721888004an Uninstall Wizard
For me it's W5 where Gaia is finally, actually, unambiguously dead and it's NOT about werewolves going out in a blaze of glory and revenge against the Wyrm, but rather about defending your street and coping as best you can.
>>721897154You say that but Baneposting is a teenager this year.
>>721910101that's supposed to be lucita???
>>721909613To be honest, V20 is the only edition that ever gave much attention to Sabbat in the core book, and that's because the 20th Anniversary edition books were intended as compilations that covered everything. Playing the Sabbat was never intended as a core experience.
If it's less than 20 hours I might pirate it so I can shit on it properly.If it's more I won't bother.
>>721909190>>721910041I like how Hunter the Vigil was one of the few lines recognized at the time for being good. Want to be part of a neighborhood watch who saw something in the darkness and decided to fight back? Check. Want to be a part of a cross-continental paranormal society? Check. Want to be a goddamn psychotic slasher hunting HUNTERS? Check, and you're their principal antagonist.
doing the needful
>>721910467Yes
>>721888004>implying I'm playing this trashlmao
>>721910087>Vampire sidesteps Gehenna in the most awkward way possibleHow do they do this?>and also the only ones actually doing anything to stop the end of the worldIf Gehenna's be averted why do they worry about the world coming to an end? (I'm not strong on Werewolf lore.)
>>721910650don't forget the most disturbing "hunter" book out there
>>721910246I thought players could join all those "rich fucks hunting werewolves for pelts" and "we have X-Com at home" clubs.
>>721910293Not totally.W5's core says that Gaia is dying rather than dead and that it's the responsibility of werewolves to just look after their communities and keep their loved ones safe as much as possible as the world gets worse and worse. For some reason, all of the fifth edition games really focus on "looking after your local community" as the ultimate form of goodness.However, the books that come out after the core book really disagree with that and make it seem like there's still a chance to save Gaia and there's still a chance to rebuild the Garou Nation and the world isn't doomed just yet. It comes across as really schizophrenic.
>>721910938What was that one about? I thought wraith in general was the most depressing and disturbing.
>>721910987That's Hunter the Vigil, which is a completely different game.H5 is the fifth edition version of Hunter the Reckoning, made by Paradox a couple of years ago. In H5, player hunters are not allowed to join orgs. If a player hunter joins an org, they lose their special hunter abilities called "edges" and the book encourages you to turn them into NPCs instead of allowing them to be played any longer.
>>721910875>How do they do this?NSA cracks Schrecknet and the lore starts revolving around a Hunter-Vampire secret war, dropping most every lore thread about Gehenna deep into the background>If Gehenna's be averted why do they worry about the world coming to an end? (I'm not strong on Werewolf lore.)Gehenna is vampire only.the Werewolves believe in Gaia, the Earth itself, and fight against The Wyrm, the spirit of entropy and chaos.in 5th edition, Gaia is fucking dead and the only ones that haven't given up are the literal psychopathic neo-nazi pagan larpers.
>>721911276That's stupid
>>721888004>combat system is about fisticuffs and quick movementEither Brujah or Toreador.
>>721911069pre-teen kids playing at being hunters. you decide how badly it ends.
>>721911276It's also weird that the H5 is completely different from the original Hunter the Reckoning, with no mention of the Imbued at all
>>721910938i have to read this one
>>721911276>>721911460H5 is basically brand new version of Hunter rather than just the latest edition of Reckoning. Shame it sucks.
>>721903557Let it think that it got you by the balls, then you pull a maneuver and it's actually it that is fucked beyond salvation, left to starve. Vampires love playing catch and mouse, until they asses are on the line. Better yet if you are human, and did it all with quick thinking and improvisation.
what if what we just killed wasn't a vampire. guys?
another thing about W5, according to one of the writers, the guy in charge was gonna gut like half of the Garou clans due to being racial stereotypes and had to be convinced into only downplaying their racial aspects.however, he was also against the concept of good-aligned Get Of Fenris, and would not budge on the Fenris being an antagonist-only clan.
>>721911460>>721911616Should've just ran with the exalted x wod crossover, would've turned out better
>>721910875Every different splat/monster type has its own variant of the end of the world. Vampires have Gehenna, werewolves have the Apocalypse, mages have the Ascension War, changelings have the Endless Winter, wraiths have Oblivion, and so on.
>>721911616>V5 vampire sucks>V5 hunter sucks>V5 Werewolf sucksWho in the actual fuck are they catering too?And how long will it take for them to ruin mage too? Woops can't have anything cool with the technocracy they're all chud donald trump analogs or something retarded. And you play as a OPPRESSED QUEER mage just trying to survive the male patriarchy
>>721892317those are the most potato looking conservatively dressed club bitches I've ever seen
>>721911738That would be because he thought a particular tribe of werewolves were white supremacists and that anyone who played them had to be white supremacists too.
WHEN
>>721911735We look for an actual vampire to kill, duh.
>>721912087what the fuck did we just kill then
>>721912128What did it look like?
>>721912128probably a crackhead of some sort, let's just chalk it up to "unintentional community service".
>>721912013Original demon was better, this god-machine thing fits more into some old mage chronicle or whatever
>>721911953everyone's been asking that since v5 came out with no answer in sight. they got caught up in their virtue signaling.
>>721912013>>721912252Fallen and Descent are massively different games, they just Demon in the name. Descent came out too late for most to care about nWoD lines, though.
>>721911953V5 is still relatively popular and workable. It doesn't butcher the world too much and enough people play it that it can be easier to find a V5 group and convince them to make V5 tolerable, than it would be to find a V20 or Revised group.H5 was a rushed attempt to cash in on some vtubers who made Hunter the Vigil really popular for about six months. However, it was so under-baked and so poorly written that no one played or plays it.W5 is a case of a setting being written and managed by a couple of people who hate it. The lead writer and project manager openly confessed that they wanted nothing to do with a Werewolf the Apocalypse game and don't care about the World of Darkness outside of VtM. So it's just a spitefully written mess that tells you all about how the werewolves have lost and how werewolves suck and how you should feel bad for playing werewolves and how you can't ever do anything good as a werewolf.
>>721911336Didn't the government know about vampires already? Heck, they'd have to know about them to go looking for Schrecknet.And if they want to say Gehenna was postponed after Ravnos awoke and got stopped and destroyed by a combo of ancient Eastern vampires and modern technology, well, the government would certainly know about vampires after that.
>>721908048Yep, you can't be an ex-cartel sicario who turned to God after witnessing some supernatural bullshit and joined the SoL to go apeshit on monsters with his True Faith and machete. Won't be getting that Latinx representation
>>721911953>And how long will it take for them to ruin mage too?Mage is so fucking schizo, it's really hard to do anything with it without offending someone. In the original version of the game, you could easily write an anti-vaxxer patriotic American shaman who draws his strength from a diet of blue steak and raw milk as a good guy player-character fighting the good fight against legions of Men In Black who want to force him to take the vax and eat processed food. Updating it to fit 2025's sensibilities will be really hard.
>>721912324I just don't understand the need to virtual signal in a game series where you almost always play objectively evil people. Oh yeah I mindrape people with my blood until they become my willing slave and casually kill a guy or two once a fortnite but hecking RACISM??? That's too far!Keep that shit in your saturday morning cartoons please not World of Darkness.
>>721912324>vampires are...le victims >Literal blood-sucking parasites who control things from behind the scenesTVD can't come soon enough
>>721912740I could swear one of the pre-made characters in the original Hunter book was a mafia enforcer.
>>721912663It's because the splats don't really work if you combine them with each other - vampire gods supposedly control absolutely everything from the shadows, but then there are these men in black guys that actually control everything from the shadows and even reality itself, but wait there are also actual angels and demons that know the language of creation and Lucifer is the real mastermind, and also some fey fucks with 25 appearance dots are sitting right over there. It's a fucking mess.
>>721911760Have a cup of vitae, have two
>>721912740>ex-cartel sicario who turned to God after witnessing some supernatural bullshit and joined the SoL to go apeshit on monsters with his True Faith and macheteDon't forget the fact he's covered in religious tats, is ripped, wears THAT hat and has a moustache
>>721891296This is Vampire, not Mage.
>>721913179I thought those said men in black are behind the Second Inquisition. That's an easy enough way to connect them.
>>721911953>mfw Mage 20th Anniversary is an almost 700 page book, with highly recommended another 300 page book to play
>>721913312The technocracy is behind a lot of things actually, they're the literal illuminati>Giving humanity tech (and hunters by extension)>Pentex is secretly run by The Sindicate (money wizards)>Void engineers are wizards fighting space cathulu
>>721910041As always, best hunter group is causing major butthurt just by existing.
>>721888004Nobody will want to even pirate this shit since it's not even Bloodlines.
>>721910041>the local corner store from shitter vampiresThe Kuei-jin?
>>721913443there's an old saying a mage st should know everything about world of darkness or players will run circles around him, and it's largely accurate. anyone playing mage as "I throw fireball" is missing 90% of the game.
>>721913554>fighting space cathuluThere are elder gods in this setting?
>>721914261eldritch monstrosities, yes. deep shit.
Are any non-vampire games good?
>>721888004They are extremely lucky I probably would've spent most of my time doing an unarmed build anyway, because otherwise the inability to pick up and wield literally any weapons would be a no-buy condition. So I'll obvious play Brujah, and MAYBE Tremere or Lasombra on a second playthrough.
>>721914482Yep
>>721914583At least each clan has different animations
>>721912740You can be all of that, sans joining the SoL. Independent hunters only.
>>721914303The sort of massive external existential threat every single faction could agree to fight against?
>>721915074Well......Yes! That's what the true Black Hand was, but people hated vampions shit, so.....
>>721915074If they knew about them and if they were an imminent threat, but neither is the case.
>>721915074they're something high end mages would know about and those guys can't unite over shit
>>721915074Probably but getting everyone together and having them not kill eachother is the hardest part.>Vampires are selfish parasites always looking to screw someone over if it benefits them>Werewolves are born terminally retarded and are prone to tardrage >Mages are too busy doing their magical bullshit and waging civil war >normal humans don't know shit>Hunters range from local shitzo hobo to glowies and a literal secret religious oraganisation. Glowies might want to work together but all other hardcore groups like the SoL will sperg out and the hunter alliance will fall apart.
>>721901813the game isn't even out and I already have fabien fatigue
>>721911992I hate the decline of civilization thanks to these idiots.
>>721912013>>721912389I never got the vibe of descent. cold war something?
>>721917290Your renegade Agent Smith
>>721917290It was the very dry and sterile introduction of a metaplot for nWoD/CofD. The theme is one of techno-gnosticism, where the entire setting is the product of a mad, unthinking machine-god and you are its servitors who managed to escape free from its control. Find meaning in the meaninglessness and allow others to create their own meaning, rather than allow the God Machine to force everyone and everything to conform to its digital hallucination.
none because im straight LMAO
>>721915587Why would mummies, demons, wraiths, and changelings fail to work in the alliance?
>>721918486Because they have nothing to do with each other?
>>721918486Because game lines were not meant to cross-over. They all operate on their distinct "power levels" and whichever game you're playing is the accurate one in terms of lore.
>>721919892some books like montreal by night or that circus sourcebook were interesting because you had various supernaturals co-existing
>>721900415It's poetic justice. Caine gets to personally experience what it's like to have family turn on each other over petty jealousies and hatreds, over and over, forever, until he realizes he was wrong.
>>721915290I thought the True Black Hand were comparatively good guys. They just wanted to be good kids.
>>721913443Imagine being a sleeper lmao.
>>721888004torrent clan if any.there is approximately 0.2% chance this game is worth any ammount of my money and round 0% of being worth what they are asking.
>>721921389Are you the TRUE True Black Hand, though?
>>721921910>torrent clanSo Nosferatu?
>>721918486Consult the image attatched to this post
>>721922016No, of course not, we've all been destroyed.
>>721918486>>721923169Are Mummies the only GOOD guys?
>>721923872Bro, hunters?
Can't wait to play as hacker Nosferatu build, gonna do a non-lethal/hacking only playthrough.
>>721919240>>721919892Tell that to >>721915587 and also read response chains before posting, NIGGERS.
>>721888004Lasombra or Tremere. I most likely gonna simp so hard for Lou.
>>721924258>imply
Please don't make obtenebration look like shit
Shill thread
>>721925286>obtenebrationyou mean oblivion
>>721924330why tf would you play a vampire game and not use any vampire things.
>>721924330No Nos in 2
>>721925549or hacking(which is a good thing imo, it was useless)
Whats the fucking point if there wont be clan curses or clan specific disciplines? Might as well just pick upp fucking Leslie Nielsen Dracula, WHAT WILL BE THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE?
>>721926001dialogue apparently.
>>721925621nigger
>>721914768The last one in this series with the cute blonde girl was the best one mechanically.
>>721926551faggot.
>>721922041Not since Shrek-tubes got rekt.
>>721927228>second inquisition happened because some newfagratu told normalfags about 4vamp
>>721925303It's anti-shill anon!
>>721905485I usually hate degenerate stuff like tattoos or body modification (despite my favorite clan being the Tzimisce, but thats besides the point), but damn, I wouldnt mind those longer canines.
>>721892317>club bitchesMeanwhile, in real life
>>721894651Because they’re less interesting Tremere.
>>721929916Maybe 20 years ago
>>721905918Fuck off, she's cute
>>721890647We call em assamites around here, boah.
>>721924648Shut your mouth you spawn of s*tan
Blood bonding Lou
>>721892317Frumpy fridgebod FAS looking bitches.
>>721930581*Cain
>>721930486Have you been to any parties lately? They wear even less clothes now.
>>721895865My fawtha
>>721930985>Have you been to any parties latelyI can't say I have
>>721923872But they're not the technocracy
funniest shit about theses thread to me each time they pop up is >shill-kun arrive for daily reminder of product's existence>other slopsumers spread their hype about the product coming out to entice people onto buying it>anons tells them to fuck off>thread derail onto talking about the TTRPG and how shit the recent rulebooks are>shills get drowned by nerds talking about better times and loreI love it, you make want to grab a vtm book more than this fucking shitty game
>>721933060just so long as it isn't a V5 splat book
>>721894590Huh...
>>721894927is she supposed to be a gypsy?
>>721934274no those are Ravnos
>>721930602Force-feeding her my addictive vitae until she gains ~20 pounds! Pic unrel.
>>721896132gypsies
>>721934274Turk/Armenian iirc.
Im here for the state assigned Vampire gf. One cute Tzimisce trad wife, please.
>>721934606Fuck, thats even worse
>>721934683the MC could also be Greek
>>721934615she'd fleshcraft your dick into a vagina then rape you
>>721934763idk, that face looks pretty turkish to me.
>>721894391The fact that they were locked behind a paywall means that the clans aren't going to matter at all
>>721934794Nah, she would love me :3
>>721934763the post already mentioned Gypsies
>>721934387
>>721902036we'll see
>>721934974Fucking duh, even the resident shill says clans are only for starting disciplines and for some dialogue options
>>721926001>Leslie Nielsen DraculaGreat idea, I'm doing this next campaign. What clan would he be a part of?
>>721935457It's a good thing she is actually a decent actress otherwise hard to take her seriously.
>>721914814Do they really? They made like 8 sets of melee animations, but no weapon equip ones?
>>721891015Not all middle easterners are swarthoids, larping as vampire Altair is kino
>>721936516Altair is from Italy, retard
Bait
>>721936516>>721936598Tune in Wednesday to find out if Altair's voice actor is in the game (he is)!
>>721931036
>>721936180yes, tremere even have unique ranged melee attacks
>>721934763Turks are basically greeks but muslim
>>721938269What a strange fucking game. That'll probably get me to do a Tremere playthrough, though.
What is the next step in Caine's master plan?
>>721936180>but no weapon equip ones?they did!...for the enemies, something which you'll only get to see if you started as Ventrue or went out of your way to do the Ventrue Trainer sidequests for the abilities.this whole game is weird as shit.
>>721940303Master Plan?
>>721888004where are her tits?
>>721941267did you just assume his gender?
Why are only Christians hunting vampires? What about jews? Vampires mean competition to their bloodsucking activities!And mudslimes? Why don't they hunt them? Are they too busy getting assfucked by 20 niggers in the desert? And hindus? Pagans? Where is everyone?
DO IT FOR HER.
>>721936180As anon said there actually are first person weapon animations, but you can only see them if you possess an enemy, lol
>>721941453the setting has a very prominent islamic left wing vampire lmao, some of the most cringe shit you'll ever read
>>721941658Incredible. What a bunch of fucking faggots. Besides Damsel, bloodlines 1 didn't have any too obvious leftoid shitheads and was relatively down to earth.
>>721941658>very prominent islamic left wing vampireRudi's in Denmark.who actually gives a shit about Denmark?
>>721940375>>721941641Hopefully it gets modded in. Punching shit is all fine and dandy but I want to carry melee and ranged weapons like you could in the first game.
>>721924258>>721923872I thought the point was that outside of the PC everyone else is in some ambiguous morality and that everyone is a cunt
>>721934606>turk armenian in buttfuck nowhere USA USA USAHilariously retarded
>>721888004>ue5 slopinto the trash
>>721938269>>721940375>Why would an Elder or a higher-tier vamp ever use guns! Silly players>Bloodlines be like "you have to get packing with the times or pretty soon you'll stick out"It's like they just didn't play or consider the first game/setting
>>721942801>vampire is yuropoor creatureyes?
>>721943079but why Seattle, literally across the Ocean, in a literal who place. Things like LaCroix makes sense, a former Ottoman making their way to America doesn't really even if transported post nap
>>721943079Ibrahim Abrahamovic looking mofo
>>721943079>Woman>JanissaryDoes not compute
>>721943383lol i assume you meant zlatan
Fucking mudslimes shitting up vampire games. I just want to play games in peace
>>721943232She's been in torpor for the last hundred years supposedly, and if that stupid twist about fabien is not true, then someone, and by someone I mean the thing masquerading as the scientist chick, dug up the shriveled corpse and took it to Seattle.
>>721943232>As our game starts, an Elder that some call the Nomad wakes up in an abandoned building in Seattle. They don't know where they are or how they got there, but they are quick to adapt - the Nomad is old, and they have survived for a long time.>It is clear that they have experienced the deathlike sleep of torpor. The last they remember was a smile and a piercing pain in the chest, delivered in their Haven in Tunis at the start of the 20th century.>Now they are awake. What happened to them in their long slumber, and who woke them? Why does their Blood lack the strength and power they are used to? And why is their body carved with arcane sigils?>The Nomad is a legend amongst Kindred. Their name has been whispered for four hundred years - of their presence in revolutions, on battlefields, at slaughters, and at the fall of Princes. Are they escaping these situations, causing them, or taking joy in red wrath and ruin? Whatever the truth, they are a catalyst - when they appear, the world of the Kindred will be irrevocably changed.
>>721943747>They they theyI hate it
>>721943896Since the nomad can be male or female it makes sense to use they..
>>721944001Nah. You always default to masculine. Every child knows that.
>>721944001Fair, but it does not make sense (it actually does from the cost saving perspective) to keep using it after you choose male or female
>>721941567I'll do it for the bitch queen
>>721931076Based peace, order, and good governance enjoyer
>>721935901Malkavian. Or just a wacky Ventrue/Old Clan Tzimisce, but comically serious Malkavian is the best match
>>721936180Because they don't want you holding weapons like a normal FPS. The hardsuit version did this, and it looked like dogshit. Why do people have such limited imaginations?
>>721945429 Unironically same. I don’t care if she’s a pawn, a boss fight, or the actual big bad, I’m riding this crimson cringe train straight into the sun for her.
>>721945429I wish they'd given her different clothes in the 1920s flashbacks. Sure, vampires are creatures of habit, but it makes those sequences feel budget-constrained.
>>721943079>female>janissary
>>721943397>>721950643I was gonna say that this is a bit jarring.
>>721951128considering the number of anons that seem wholly unable to distinguish Male Phyre from Female Phyre, it seems pretty believable.
>>721892868>we have Yennefer at home
>>721947768>Instead of improving on previous work and something central to the RPG series (guns) scrap entirely for le badass telekinesis I don't know. A bit absurd
>>721951710Guns were never going to be central to Bloodlines 2. The Mitsoda version had turned them into limited use temporary items that were far less powerful than disciplines.
>>721943079
>>721889341>Which clan of these blood sucking monsters best encapsulates my modern leftwing politics?This, but how do I play a NAZI (TM) vampire? I want to smugly express my labor based economics while also dunking on people for not being White.
>>721951710Guns are not scrapped, though. You can use telekinesis to pick up and fire any gun you find. You can make enemies drop guns out of fear. You can chop their heads off and catch the gun before it falls. Your primary form of interacting with the environment is with telekinesis.
>>721951903Didn't you read the latest VtM sourcebook, chud? Fascists are no longer allowed to play the game.
>>721936598No, you're thinking of Ezio.
>>721951230You say that like there is an obvious distinction other than you not wanting to admit you’re a fag.
>>721951903Brujah
>>721953148poor, blind anon.
>>721953363>don’t believe your lying eyesWhen this shit flops remember you spent months pretending to find some androgynous goblin attractive for nothing.
>>721953458>>don’t believe your lying eyesno nigga i'm saying i can tell between a man and a woman at a glance.the fact you can't is genuinely concerning.
>>721953553I can, but the issue is that they made your shitty character look like neither fully male or female. But you’re ignoring that because you know it’s true. For fuck sake they tried putting in that they them tranny shit.
>>721900415didn't Abel slaughter a lamb and present that as his offering to God? So Abel would actually be the first to kill anything
>>721890214based malk bro!
>>721953710>they them tranny shit.wrong version you subhuman retard, the one with selectable pronouns was the Hardsuit version.
>>721890885gangrel is for braindead players in bloodlines, typical frenzy protean manbat build im guessing. horrible for roleplay also. brujah would be the superior clan choice if it didn't force players to play as nig.
>>721943079>I was a soldier, a Janissary.>looks like a womanIs it trans? Because how in the fuck...
>>721891632yep. who would want to willingly play nonsense garbage?
>>721953976They're referring to the fact that the current version of VTMB2 never refers to you as "he" or "she." Back in 2024, in the warehouse demo, it did. The final version has no difference in dialogue between the two. Bad guys say ambiguous lines like, "Get 'em!" instead of "Get her!" or "Get him!"Basically same thing Dead Island 2 did.
>>721894656thank you, so sick of soft magic in games. literally in the first bloodlines smiling jack comments on some gunshots or potholes that will close up soon enough on their own but Nosferatu rat girl is loaded with piercings and shit.nice to see someone else who thinks
>>721914768Carpenter is to this day probably one of my favorite video game NPCs ever, he is what every undead rogue player in World of Warcraft wishes they were back in the day
>>721953976You mean the one that the chinkroom picked up and have using the corpse of? Yeah I know you need to protect your shitty tranny characters but playing dumb like this is pathetic.
>>721894981oding on drugs doesn't change dna or anything permanent so no? im guessing. but piercings aren't dna changing either... hmm
>>721953316old vtm was this based? wow
>>721897075the only way to fight vampires is to be one though?
>>721898373not everything nomad is a damned gypsy....
>>721898414glorious malks won't be playable? insanity! literal madness! bedlamites all of them!
>>721943079Stake it through the heart, let it embrace the sun
>>721953798>killing is murderlol, lmao>>721954126Nah. Then they'd be a tranissary.
>>721903557mind breaking into sex slave?
>>721892317
I'm here for my government assigned vamp gf
>>721929916yuck vey
>>721941210awkward malk moment....
>>721941453cool it with the antisepticism, anon...
>>721954798For every Damsel there was one of these. You got to have a balance.
>>721955506Here you go, Anon! get in the fucking van
What we need is a wta Amazon Rage War game
Has any news of this game inspired hope for it being good?I mean, didn't they come out and say 'don't expect anything on the level of the 21 year old game'?
>>721952829Sorry, I don't read homosexual literature, I burn it.
>>721956235>WtADoA type of game
>>721956792SJWs like you are not welcome here
>>721956714I'm pretty much fine with everything except they them shit, it was never going to be original bloodlines, not even in spirit
