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I'm trying to play other metroidvanias in vain, but my mind keeps going back to this game.
Dlc when?
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forgotten fotm
time to move on
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>>721890932
Tranny thread.
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>>721890932
What are you playing anon? I' having trouble finding the next game to play.
I generally don't like metroidvanias like metroid, castlevania, axiom verge etc. I prefer them when they're more """soulslike"""", but I feel like I already played all the 2D ones.
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>>721890932
Why didn't you notify your discord sisters to come here and "populate" the thread with totally real discussion?
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>>721891097
This anon is correct. Silksong is only fake discussion. It's all people who fake playing the game, and fake talking about the lore and fake gameplay footage, all to... uum... why?
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>>721891065
Aquaria.
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>>721890932
I've been seeing the lore of Silksong and I know that it's basically
>Silk mother creates the weavers from normal bugs
>They conquer Pharloom
>The weavers decide to imprison Silk and then they fuck off
>The citadel of Pharloom is beginning to experiment with silk
>The more generations passes the more silk comes attached to the bugs making GSilk able to control them
>She sends expeditions to capture and bring back weavers so she can finally wake up

The thing is, when the fuck did Lace and Phantom come to be?
Were they directly created by Silk when she was around? Or were they an experiment from the citidiel?

Because Hornet calls her a child so she couldn't be around for much, and after the decay of the citadel I don't see them doing much experiments
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>>721890932
>no gramaphone
didnt beat the game
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>>721890932
>general thread outside of /vg/
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Have fun spanking GMS' fat ass now bros.

Because she's gonna get a superboss version soon.
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>>721891065
I just finished replaying zero mission, I think I'll replay the metroid games. I have rabi ribi or whatever installed too, but I haven't found motivation to start, I remember playing it years ago, but I stopped for whatever reason.
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>>721890932
I played a bunch but kinda of lost my steam when I got to act 3. Just feels like there's nothing actually new and it's just a boss rush mode.
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>>721891910
More likely that she'll join in the Even Loster Lace fight and throw shit at you from the background
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>>721891910
Void version is guaranteed.
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Started replaying HK since last playing in 2017. Feels too easy compared to SS, hopefully dlc changes that a bit.
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>>721890932
Oops wrong board mr. trud worlder. You should be in >>>/vg/.
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I wonder how hot Radiance would look if the devs recreated her now.
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I genuinely think silksong has the most fun combat out of any metroidvania, I keep trying to think of anything that comes close, but my mind is blank.
Anyone has any recommendations?
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>>721890964
Tourists were filtered
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>>721892142
Nine Sols. Though if you hate parries then...
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>>721892142
My favourite metroidvania is still Ender Magnolia but that's more due to the art and music and the exploration it's combat is not as good as SS so I'm inclined to agree with you.
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>>721892050
Hollow knight's difficulty is all shoved in the endgame, silksong is way better balanced in this part.
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>>721890932
Maybe christmas ?
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>>721891791
If you talk to the priest at songclave after beating lace in the cradle he will mention that she's been around for a very long time and age-wise is very much not a child, she was created to be an eternal child in both appearance and character by granny silk because she was lonely.
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>>721892228
I honestly completely forgot this was a game, and I finished it when it came out.
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I have to do my own steelsoul instead of reading threads
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>>721892221
I started playing it months ago, but what filtered me was how long and dry the dialogues were, don't know if it gets better, but they take too much gameplay time up to the point where I stopped.
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I honestly think people are vastly underestimating how difficult the first game is at times.
NKG alone is harder than any boss in SS, people just grinded godhome so much that its all easy now
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>>721892405
The gameplay is superb in 9S. Especially the bosses by far the best in the entire genre.

Just skip through the dialogue if you hate em. I personally only read the incest parts.
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>>721892409
>NKG alone is harder than any boss in SS
Mate that is not even close to true I genuinely have no fucking clue how it's even possible to think that.
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>>721892409
Grimm is the easiest hard boss in hollow knight, after fighting him so much, you realize all his moves are simple and easy to punish, his difficulty is the most overrated.
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Retrying the hunter boss in Act 3 is a fucking CHORE

you have to play the harp again, walk the entire level again, beat the fodder again
this game is just a chore through and through
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>Re fight Hornet in godhome
>She has Silkspear, Thread Storm, and Parry all at the same time on the Hunter crest
Is she cheating?
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>>721892561
>after fighting him so much
way to prove my point
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>>721892050
Silksong is Hollow Knight but Elden-Ringified. Going back to Hollow Knight after Silksong is like going back to Demon's Souls after Elden Ring and thinking "wtf how can people say Flamelurker was hard, he doesn't even have 10 hit combos that input read you trying to counter hit at the end and convert into another 5 hit combo extension??"
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everyone who complains about diagonal pogo makes me feel insane
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Silk is so distractingly attractive fuck.
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>le input read again
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>I'm trying to play good games, but my mind keeps going back to a bad game.
sounds like you're retarded tbqh
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>>721892632
She explains to the shaman at the start of the game that she's been weakened
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>>721892657
?
Some bosses still remain difficult for me even after fighting them a lot. Grimm's is a good boss, but his fight is easy to learn compared to other hk superbosses.
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Give me a mod to restart karmelitta fight right away, I'm not wasting my Sunday on this assembly-line work game-design
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>>721892834
Elden Ring has input reading out the ass and no amount of "erm chud it's actually reading frame 1 of your character's animation and not technically the button press" cope will ever change that
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>>721892632
Eva decided to silkdoku herself before giving Hornet the secret final upgrade to her hunter crest.
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>>721892828
It's the secret difficulty mechanic in the LL fight
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>>721892975
This isn't elden ring, retard. The enemy reacting to your gameplay is not a bad feature, especially when you have a thousand ways to react in turn.
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>>721892050
HK's difficulty curve is much more standard. It starts out easy, gets gradually harder, and is hard in the boss rush DLC. Silksong is somewhat challenging at first but the difficulty stays the same so by the end it's a non-issue.
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>>721892723
I remember having some problems with Radiance but damn it is remarkable how much i've forgotten about the game. Feels almost fresh playthrough.
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>>721892956
Shes not even that bad to get back to. When you fight her, don’t chase her. Let her come to you and get your hits in.
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>>721892828
>stop to take screenshot of the gilf
>nigger wave comes
>boss attempt stolen
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>>721893153
It's just so fucking boring to do the same mind-numbing runback and arena, it's my fourth try and I'm already at my wits end. Got to her third phase but I just can't put up with those runbacks, the game is so fucking drawn out and I've been putting up with this godawful game design for too long I just want to finish the game asap
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>>721892221
>>721892468
i dont find it all that interesting
on one hand HK sort of has its own combat, 9S copies ways too much from sekiro and in some ways is held back plenty by it (the estus is so boring for instance)

im also not a fan of how people typically copy sekiro deflects. in 9s and every other such game, enemies pretty much never parry or clash with you, which was half the point of sekiro. instead youre just stripping the game away from needing positioning or strategy for the enemy attacks because you just RMBRMBRMB them all and get cheap windows in between due to how low commital everything is. SS enemies just feel more dynamic and reactive, and so is the way i have to respond to them
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>>721893153
What? I'm was rushing her on my own fight and I demolished her that way.
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>>721893287
>enemies pretty much never parry or clash with you
because most people played sekiro like a soulsnroll, they never realized you have to be constantly agressive and on top of your enemies
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>>721893461
no way, most people realised how youre supposed to play eventually
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>>721893228
Then drop the game, nigger. Crying here won't make you kill the boss faster.
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>>721892723
YUP
i feel the same way
>Platforming feels better (also less bullshit)
>Enemies aren't aids hp bloated cancer
>Hidden walls are rare, there aren't 10 in every room
this game is just so much more well designed, despite silksong being hollow knight 2 the original is better paced and doesn't have all of the bullshit of silksong
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>>721893498
yeah the good players did, but the average player just relied on parrying for posture damage
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Groal the Great is giving me trouble. The runback isn't so bad, the gauntlet isn't so bad, but when you have to do both before each attempt... it vexes me.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I don't care for bilewater
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>>721893639
I'm just asking for a mod to restart her right away.
Game is a chore, plain and simple.
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>>721893739
Then drop it, or go search for an easy mode mod yourself. In reality, you just want to cry for attention.
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>>721893874
I'm not an asking for an easy mode, I'm asking for a game-design fix. Tons of harder game don't feel like chores.
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>>721893092
>The contrarian NPC programming detects widespread normalfag frustration with the flying enemies and commits to glazing the input reading for the rest of time
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>>721893725
Just get the item that protects you from the maggots. Groal is very easy as long as you don't throw the fight.
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>>721892956
I defeated her by just jumping+clawlining(+snitch pick) her face after she was almost done with her attack animations/combos (you can even get a pogo or two before getting off her head to avoid her jump attack). This way you play defensively by staying away from her during her attacks, and quickly approach her when she is vulnerable.
And you can parry most of her ground attacks with the wanderer crest (+ flintslate to knock her out faster), including her projectiles (but you it's better to just jump over them and clawline her face).
And remember that you can find 4 hearts and you only need 3, she is technically optional.
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>>721893917
Get a new thing to pretend to complain about, bro.
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>>721893987
Groal is a Wanderer/Reaper check. The vietcong he summons before the fight are so much easier to kill when you can chain pogo them back into the water. Yet another fight that's designed expressly to hand a big fat L to the Hunter crest by cucking its diagonal pogo on purpose (the intended canon gameplay experience btw).
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>>721893909
There's nothing to be fixed, except you non-existent attention span.
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>>721894079
Lol. You're gonna be hearing about this shit for the rest of time buddy. Nobody "pretends" to complain about mechanics like Soul Memory to this very day and its been over 10 years. When a mechanic is bad, the complaints are eternal.
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>>721894159
I just beat her. My attention span is very fine, I've played text-heavy games that went on for 80+ hours easily.
My entire afternoon spent on Malenia felt more engaging than the less than 10 tries I did on Karmelita.
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>>721894154
Idk what you're talking about, because I beat him with hunter with no issues. I'm still not entirely convinced people aren't trolling when they say shit like this.
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>>721893909
>Tons of harder game don't feel like chores.
name them
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>>721894070
I barely usely clawline in fights, maybe I should. I played rather offensively, I've been using some ground spikes instead of the flintslate but I don't feel like the spikes do much damage.
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I didnt expect the gauntlet turn into "Objective: Run" after dealing with the mobs
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>>721894280
When the player is bad more like. This shitskin is still complaining about birds out of all things, at this point the game could pop-up a message any time a bird appears on screen for you to use the clawline or a tool and you would still complain. Dsp level of retardation.
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>ALRIGHT I’LL MAKE MY OWN BABY
>WITH BLACKJACK & HOOKERS
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>>721893987
>dude just get the item you already have
Anon this doesn't help me
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>>721894393
Ultrakill, Furi, God Hand, Sekiro, Elden RIng, Nine Sols, Khazan, NG2, Beyond Citadel, Supcom FAF
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>>721892378
I did worse than you, I just watched a playthrough to get the bulk of the story. Just haven’t seen the bit where the weavers put Silk to sleep.
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>>721894350
You can beat Groal himself with any crest by throwing poison boomerangs at him till he dies but the pre-fight gauntlet is dramatically simplified when you can just bounce on his minions, and that gauntlet is the hard part.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=CwsXk8eIl9I
Of course, this is still possible to do with Hunter, it's just way clunkier, more unforgiving, and the penalty for missing the angle sends you right into the shit water due to the horizontal movement.
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>>721894407
Yeah, it's bad design. There really should have been a 20 minute unskippable tutorial first.
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>>721894283
Kek of course it's an elden ring tourist, every single time.
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>>721894734
I'm just using a game everyone played for the sake of being understood by most.
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>>721894547
Yes that was the same cope when DS2 released, "you're only complaining because you're bad," that cope has long since sputtered out because it didn't stand the test of time.
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>>721894396
Clawline and Snitch Pick is essentially the "needle build" version of the Architect Crest (for people who don't want to use Ascendant's Grip + Pollip Pouch in every fight).
You can play defensively and quickly attack any boss between attack animations by simply jumping, clawlining the boss' face, getting all the pogos you can and fucking off before the next attack animation starts (with another clawline if an air dash isn't enough).
It's especially great (and intentionally designed) for dealing with enemies/bosses that love to run away (like flying bugs) and/or throw projectiles (like GMS and Weaver's silk daggers)
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>>721894698
Reaper and Wanderer players are just retarded, Hunter's pogo is braindead easy to land, if you actually bothered playing with other crests, you'd know beast is the actual beast for that fight and gauntlet.
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>>721892142
Metroid Dread is the only other fast paced metroidvania combat I can think of, and that will feel like slow motion after silksong desu
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>FINALLY beat a boss besides moss mother on the first try
it was the coral tower nigga. I finally did it. died like a dozen times to karmelita though (kino fight thoughbeit)
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>>721892142
>>721894929
>silksong
>fast paced
>you play as hornet the agile, speedy bug of HK1
>the best way to play against bosses is to play the waiting games and exploit opening instead of rushing down
boring af
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>>721894627
Just don't panic, Groal has no moves that are difficult to dodge, go right into the water if you're feeling pressured.
As I said, you only die to him if you throw the fight, just forget about the runback and relax.
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>>721894864
>No you're in the wrong for using the most effective tool for the task, you're really supposed to be using this pointlessly clunky jankset to show off how hardcore you are
Nah
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Remember that normal animals are not out of the question, as shown by Craw Chorus.
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really hoping for more bellhome customization/upgrades in the dlc. unironically my favorite part of the game. adding a sound test to the record player would be a nice start.
>tfw the tiny bellhome is 10x cozier than my actual bedroom
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>>721894798
It's ok, you can keep crying here about based crowboy moving back as you hit the air like a retard.
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You know what were missing?

A super weaver fight that uses all of the silk spells hornet can use
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>>721895048
no one is forcing you to play like a scared faggot, thats just who you are and can be applied to any other game as well.
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>>721895048
I mean it's why first sinner is the best boss in the game, because it forces aggressiveness due to her healing
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>>721894154
Groal is a skill check.
If you used any cheese, you failed.
If you're not full stats at the end of the gauntlet, you failed.
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>>721894861
Feels like you get clawline way too late into the game for how much of it is designed around assuming you've got it right from the start. Did TC literally just forget that people aren't born with the knowledge of the Citadel backdoor through Exhaust Organ that lets them get it within 40 minutes?
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>>721895119
>reaper
>effective
lmao
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>witch crest dash attack hits twice
>follow up in the air for a quick triple hit
god damn it feels so satisfying but I think the shit heal is gonna hold me back. plus the hunter dash attack is still probably better because of the boost.
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>>721895279
Really? I got Clawline early Act 2.
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>>721895251
>Nyoooooooooo you didn't beat the gyaaaa
Hahahaha. For all the austistic seething about soulsfaggots itt, that's all you are
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>>721895048
I played aggressively against every single boss.
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>>721895251
>video of getting lucky rng with 0 ads spawning and only one use of his soul spit attack
Lol
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>>721895220
Wrong, the game doesn't reward agressive play.

>>721895365
You don't know what agressively means.
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>>721895292
Reaper and Wanderer are both so effective you literally just got done saying they're YDBTG-mode lol
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>>721895121
Technically those are still bugs, just furries.
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>>721895160

We need a pure vessel equivalent
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>>721895485
First Sinner
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Can I get any of these in act 2?

Wreath of Purity
Longclaw
Shaman Crest
9 masks
Rune Rage
Pale Nails
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>>721895406
Yeah bro 2 ads that go away after an attack are going to kill a player that went through the gauntlet unscathed.

>>721895360
>Groal is designed to shit on the Hunter crest
>n-no not like that
Cope.
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>>721895523
Yes
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>>721895327
Clawline is mid Act 2 because it requires going up and through the Citadel from Underworks, beating Cogwork, working through Whiteward and then back down through Underworks a second time. That's easily 20 hours in unless you looked up a guide or you're on playthrough 2.
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>>721895297
Combine the mirrors from trobbio, multi threading (you can take this off for very fast bosses), and injector band. Then start thinking of the heal as an offensive tool rather than a defensive one. When you use the heal offensively witch outpaces every other crest damage wise besides architect item spam
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Crawfather was the easiest boss ever, what the fuck
>just silkstorm
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>>721895421
There's no shame in being bad at the game, but please stop coping, there's a thousand videos of people not giving bosses the chance to breathe.
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>>721892142
I liked the weapon skills in Afterimage (especially the katana tree), but Silksong's silk skills (and clawline) are definitely better overall.
Another "combat-focused" metroidvania (more combat features than Metroid/Castlevania) is Valdis Story, but I honestly don't remember much about it.
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>>721895251
>you can throw pimpillos into his suck attack like he's a zelda boss and there's a unique animation for it blowing up in his stomach
that's crazy, team cherry thought of everything
are there other tools you can do that with or is it only the grenade ones?
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>>721895574
Yeah, because the gauntlet before the fight, which is part of the fight, which I mentioned right at the start >>721894154 , are a Hunter filter. Not my fault you can't read, you dumb fucking faggot. Your webm is as useless as the rest of you irl.
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>>721895521

First Sinner but stronger and can use more weaver spells
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>>721895580
Which ones?
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>>721890932
How often does Lace even have to be “sustained” with silk? I’m pretty sure niggers are just assuming a human-rate of hunger independent of physical injury. You have no idea if it’s a daily basis, yearly, or based on how injured she gets.
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>>721895657
The game doesn't reward agressive play by design. A game like Sekiro does, whether you know the bosses or not. It's only possible in Silksong once you know the patterns by heart, you'll never be successful being agressive if you don't know the boss. You can be agressive in every single fucking game ever once you know the patterns, that doesn't mean the combat is designed to encourage it (and in silksong, it should)
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>best song: bilewater
>best boss: carmelita
>best crest: hunter
>best tool: boomerang
>best charm: fractured mask
>best spell: silk storm
>best NPC: bell beast
>best area: choral chambers
what say you anons
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>>721895523
pale nails and shaman crest are act 3, not sure about wreath, the rest you can get in act 2
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>>721895695
The hardest part bouat playing a new MV after Silksong is how amateur everything else looks and feels.
Like I can't blame them they're mostly indies but unless you're like Ori which was backed by Microsoft, you can feel how off the games oftentimes feel.

Even Nine Sols which I love has sone jank animations for some of its bosses.
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>>721895048
Is the wanderer poster smashing a button not aggressive enough for you?
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>>721895121
I think the only real non-bug creature in this game is the bird that gives you the double jump upgrade.

>>721895279
The clawline and the architect crests are found in the same area (sort of) and I assume that's intentional since both of them are the optimal tools for their respective playstyles.
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>>721895697
To Groal? It's just the pimpilos as far as I know.
There are other unique tool interactions, however.
Flintslate keeps you from taking cold damage in Mt. Fay while active.
Volt Filament causes your silk skills to electrocute water.
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>>721895465
I have? Source?
Wanderer is the only one that is op, Reaper is the weakest crest in the game. Both are mainly used by shitters that never learn how to play the game though.
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going to start 9 sols today since Ive sadly done everything in SS now. I love sekiro and also played that game recently so hopefully this one will be really fun too.
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>>721892409
>NKG alone is harder than any boss
NKG doesn't even matchup to Savage Beastfly 1
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>>721896026
NGK is definitely a better boss than any Silksong boss
>better design
>better ost
>better atmosphere
>better build up
>better patterns
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>>721895742
What crest is the player in that video using, anon?
He didn't get filtered at all, it's just you and your retarded takes.
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>>721895574
The gauntlet pre fight is easy as piss, the issue is with the ads combined with his soul spit often puts you in a ridiculous scenario of dodging
However you did use the most recommended item for the fight and the most recommended silk skill, one that can't be acquired until putrified docks, meaning you specifically fought groal as one of your last bosses of act 2. That implies you either struggled immensely against him originally or used a guide before tackling him
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>>721895779
But I... was? By playing aggressive, do you mean attacking nonstop then pressing a button to parry? You can actually do that too, but it requires a little more skill than in sekiro.
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>>721896023
>I have? Source?
Right here, actually >>721896023
>Both are mainly used by shitters that never learn how to play the game though.
This is LITERALLY "you didn't REALLY beat the game, you didn't learn it FOR REAL." Lmao. You literally cannot help yourself. Hunter is just gimped, retard. You're playing on Contrarian Challenge Mode.
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>>721893228
>the same mind-numbing runback
You walk for five seconds
>arena
It is legitimately the easiest gauntlet in the game. The basic ants should not be giving you ANY problems at all.
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>>721896081
NKG has an entire dlc built around him. It isn't fair to compare him to any silksong boss right now
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I liked hollow knight a lot but I thought it was overrated and over hyped. but silksong is probably a top 5 all time game for me. i cant get over how great it is man. my only real complaint is that a lot of shit is TOO hidden. I ended up finding out where most things are because I was reading these threads in between playing, but if i was totally blind I wouldve missed out on so much shit its unreal even though I obsessively checked everywhere and smacked every wall. like theres some hidden vertical shafts that have NO fucking visual tell whatsoever, thats just too fucking much. but still 11/10 overall
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>>721896082
Yet more complete lack of reading comprehension. Disappointing, but not surprising.
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>>721896156
man you have absolutely no reading comprehension, do you?
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>>721896007
that's so fucking cool. I had no idea about any of those. kind of annoyed though at all the cool small details that normal players are never going to ever encounter and you can only learn about by someone else telling you
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>>721896167
>You walk for five seconds
More. And you have to play the fucking song every time.
>It is legitimately the easiest gauntlet in the game.
Part of the problem, it truly feels like mind nimbung chink-like padding. The arena before the bilewater boss was annoying but it felt dangerous enough to make the player think it was part of the boss fight. This gauntlet is so fucking easy it serves no other purpose than bore you to death and delay the refight.
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>>721896081
NKG is a shitty
>your turn
>my turn
boss, if you wanna praise HK at least use pure vessel as your example
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>>721892956
I consider myself bad at videogames but carmelita only took me about an hour of attempts at most and it was a really fun fight to slowly figure out and get better at

just how casual and slow are you people
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Are there any bosses or gauntlets which let you take advantage of the Voltvessels' water damage buff?
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>>721896303
You can hit NGK a ton during his turns.
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>>721896293
the guantlet is over in like 15 seconds and lets you farm up a full silk bar. the big guards who come in at the end can be insta killed with 2 or 3 boomerangs. its seriously nothing.
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>>721896345
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>>721895805
The best area is the big underwater coral region that they deleted mid-development.
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>>721896081
>>better design
Not really no. There are very few Silksong bosses that can be called bad. NKG is about as fun as Last Judge or Widow or Phantom or Moorwing (stop being a shitter Moorwing was a fair fight) and there are fights more fun than that
>better ost
Not really
>better atmosphere
I liked the atmosphere for Lace 2
>better build up
I'll give you that
>better patterns
lol no. That's like one of the worst parts of the fight, his patterns are actually very simplistic
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>>721896023
>Wanderer is the only one that is op
This is just wrong and retarded. Architect is hilariously OP, especially after allowing charge attacks to gain silk. One bar of silk = 6 masks worth of healing if using the blue phials plus a full set of items, it just costs a shit ton of shards to use
Wanderer is good and has a great charge attack, but it is more of a hunter side grade, swapping range and mobility for faster attacks. Witch is straight up better once you git gud with the heal due to the 4 blue slots
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>>721896156
NTA but Silksong conflates "aggressive" with "YOLO" gameplay until you already know the boss patterns by heart. Best example add Silk skills. If you want to throw around your magic on a regular basis, you're never healing again. Just don't get hit 4head. What, don't tell me you don't know these boss patterns yet because you haven't played the game before? What are you, stupid?
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>>721896164
You're talking with the voices in your head, man.
People use reaper because they are lazy to learn anything else, it doesn't mean that they're playing well or succeeding in the game better than other people, in fact they mostly are the ones getting filtered as I said. Hunter is one of the best crests because of the double damage boost and good balanced moveset.
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>>721896293
>More. And you have to play the fucking song every time.
You play a 3 second song and then go forward for five seconds. Are you not holding the dash button or something. There are no obstacles in your path. This isn't a problem. You're getting mad about literally nothing. You might as well get mad about the fight having an introduction cutscene
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>>721896123
Oh my god it gets very difficult to not take damage in this very specific and uncommon scenario, it's so over bros.
I am the guide you google btw.
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>>721890932
Where is this Luigi fella? I feel like I ran into him or read about him but I can't remember where for the life of me..
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>>721896653
>he's showing off non cursed grand mother silk
She's one of the easiest fights in the game you retard
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>>721896501
Wanderer is op by nature, architect is what people use to cheese bosses, but if you're maining it and not just using it every once in a while, you're going to have to git gud with the moveset.
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>>721896562
Wait, does Coral Tower instantly set off the Volt Vessels? I did it with Shaman Crest+Volt Filaments and I was wondering if the underwater setting was why my spells were one-shotting everything outside the boss.
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>>721896653
>he took one hit
you didnt beat the boss.
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>>721896469
>There are very few Silksong bosses that can be called bad

The best silksong bosses are like 8/10, most of them are 4 or 5/10.
Last Judge was boring as fuck, Phantom was a 8, Widow a 7, Sinner a 8
Sinner is the best fight in the game anyway
>simplistics patterns are bad
He has readable patterns and yet he's agressive enough to feel like a endgame fight. They're all very thematically fitting too, he has a lot of gimmicks unique to him unlike the parry that I've seen on a lot of silksong mobs and bosses
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>>721896575
I'm literally quoting you. Don't like seeing the mirror? Please write out even more text that says nothing but "you didn't beat the game for real because you saw the credits without gitting gud," soulsfag.
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>>721896737
I'm showing you how to remove all of the floor spikes and have a clean arena again, silly.

>>721896763
S-shut up.
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NKG is kino the first time you beat him.

He becomes exceedingly worse if you grind him in Godhome.
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>>721893725
You can cheese him out by staying in the lower right corner of the screen and spamming tools after you clear the gauntlet.
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>>721896827
Who cares? The only reason anyone struggles on her is for the cursed achievement where you can't use items regardless
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>>721896123
For me, it was entering Sinner's Road for the find-the-merchant quest, thinking >yo this area sucks I'll come back later, seeing the seethe over bilewater and thinking >ok this area is maximally gay as fuck, I'll come back later, exploring the rest of the map including putrid ducts before coming back because there was nowhere left to go, trying out Groal honestly on one attempt, thinking >yeah this is gay as fuck, not worth it, and cheesing him. Everything about Bilewater is fucking gay, the anons glazing it have Stockholm Syndrome.
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HOLY FUCK WHERE IS THE MAP FOR DEEPNEST
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>>721896916
Godhome is a mediocre dlc that only exists for autists that wanted to sink hours on combat content for a game with mediocre combat
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>>721897009
Nah all the new bosses except Flying Nosk are kino
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>>721897000
it's right at the entrance. you did walk in through the front door instead of falling in, right?
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>>721896969
I care. You seem too frustrated for someone who refuses to post any gameplay of your own.
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I think SS mogs HK entirely for one very simple reason. How well Hornet controls. Despite being harder I never feel frustrated playing SS because i have so much more control of my actions compared to the Knight who moves in such a slow, clunky way.
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>>721896237
>>721896535
I think you're just autistic and can't understand someone playing a game different than you and succeeding, none of the bosses in silksong toke me more than 9 tries, I played aggressively in every single one of them, none of them punished my playstyle, in fact they reward you by stunning the boss faster. Just git gud, man.
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>>721896653
>I am the guide you Google btw
Uh huh
That's why you fought groal with 9 masks and the secret final silk skill
Because you just happened to explore most of bilewater, turned around right before you got to the boss, cleared out every other thing in act 2, then came back to him
Sure.
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>>721896368
The what?
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>>721897139
The movement is the one thing SS does better.
Pharloom has to be the most dull, bland and shitty setting I've ever seen in a metroidvania, I have never felt so disinterested with a videogame setting in a long, long while. It doesn't even feel like a climb, the npcs are completely forgettable, the fetch quests are dogshit too
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>>721897139
It's funny you say that because equipping the Wanderer crest and importing the Knight's moveset is extremely overpowered in this game, which in turn implies that Hornet controls worse
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>>721895048
>the best way to play against bosses is to
Dash, air dash and clawline all over the place like a madman (or abuse the shit out of architect's reload button) while swapping tools to abuse bosses' specific weaknesses (like throwing boomerangs at fat fucks).
The real problem is that people find the wanderer crest, equip silkspear, say "it's Hollow Knight time!" and assume it will work every time.
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>>721896765
>The best silksong bosses are like 8/10, most of them are 4 or 5/10.
You are just objectively wrong on that
>He has readable patterns and yet he's agressive enough to feel like a endgame fight
Readable patterns aren't a unique thing, even for endgame Hollow Knight bosses. That's part of the ethic of these games boss designs. The problem people have with Grim's attack patterns is that it becomes extremely monotonous and repetitive once you know what you're looking at
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>>721897218
https://hollowknight.wiki/w/Voltvessels
These things.
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>>721897142
you can't say
>none of them punished my playstyle
but then also say
>none of the bosses in silksong toke me more than 9 tries
implying you died over and over again because you aggressively ran into things
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>>721897241
That would be true if the Wanderer crest actually did import the Knight's moveset. But, you know. It doesn't do that so it's not true.
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>>721896772
You are not quoting me and you don't know what "literally" means, but yes, I do realize I'm a retard for replying to a troll, so whatever.
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>>721897139
My frustrations with Silksong usually comes from the punishment being so harsh rather than the task itself. 2, sometimes 3, mask damage for an execution error feels so stiff. But, as you said, Hornet has a bazillion options available to her. So once you learn to play perfectly, it's actually a pretty cool feeling.

I beat the game yesterday without any patches, only to learn there's an act 3. Now I get to figure out how to unlock that
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>>721897250
>or abuse the shit out of architect's reload button) while swapping tools to abuse bosses' specific weaknesses (like throwing boomerangs at fat fucks).
It costs 400,000 shell shards to employ this tactic... For twelve seconds.
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>>721897139
Correct but raw gameplay is ironically one of the things that matters least in how a game such as this is remembered months or years later. People remember Witcher 3 and Mass Effect more than other RPG even though their gameplay is mediocre.
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>>721897078
YES? I WENT THROUGH THE MANTIS LORDS AND DIDN'T FIND A FUCKING MAP
I'VE BEEN WALKING AROUND DOWN HERE FOR HALF AN HOUR AND I CAN'T FIND THE WSAY OUT
FUCK THIS GAME
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>>721897353
It is straight up Knight + Quick Slash, you're missing his spells but it is the same nail moveset. But you are technically right, the Knight with half his kit missing still mogs Hornet.
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>>721897449
HOW DO I GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE
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>>721897371
The greentext is a quote, meaning it literally is literal. You're simply out of excuses. I accept your concession.
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>>721897187
This might shock you but on my very first playthrough of the game I had 9 masks and a full spool before Act 3 and found First Sinner in the Slab. I also got offered the Silk and Soul quest without ever having to google anything and found Act 3 on my own.
You only need to get past the jumping fish rooms for the mask btw. And yes I left the zone and came back with Rune Rage to test it out on him.
People like you are unable to cope with others being able to do what you seemingly can't.
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>>721897463
Yeah it imports his moves except..... the rest of Hornet's kit that is infinitely better than the knights and why she feels better to control. Seriously question here anon are you genuinely retarded?
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>>721897348
No, I did in fact not imply that.
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>>721897491

FUARK
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>>721897449
>>721897504
>anon_gets_lost_in_the_hood.jpg
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How do i get into The Slab? I can't find any entrance. Also what the fuck is that mist area?
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>>721897329
I didn't know there was bonus damage for water, so many little things in this game.
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>>721897614
why do you need to get into The Slab?
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>>721897531
I dunno are you retarded? The reason why Wanderer is so OP is because it's swing speed is the best silk generation in the game which is what fuels your ability to spam Hornet's much more lackluster spells (no DD or Abyss shriek lol), it's down pogo is straight up better, and her Clawline and sprint attacks are a cope for not being able to iframe dash through attacks and simply stand there like a Chad beating on people.
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WHERE IS THE DLC AIIIIEEEEEEEEEE
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>>721897614
>How do i get into The Slab?
If you've killed all of the guardflys with cages around the world you can get in to the Slab from the citadel
>Also what the fuck is that mist area?
You see those butterflies? They'll lead you done the right path if you do a certain thing in front of them
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>>721897614
The Mist area confused me at first. But then I remembered The Lost Woods from Zelda and realized the gimmick

The trick is to use the Needolin next to the glowing butterflies. The Butterflies will lead you to the correct exit
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>>721897391
Nobody said that you can unlock the easy mode for free (except in dream bosses, I think).
The game is about the consequences of late-stage religious tourist traps, after all.
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>>721897684
If you can't tell the difference between the Knight and Hornet with Wanderer crest I'm sorry to say anon that you might genuinely have brain damage because being this stupid is not healthy.
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>>721897525
Having 9 masks for all silk expansions before act 3 is not abnormal
It is however, extremely abnormal to have all of these before groal. You would have to go extremely out of your way to do so, which heavily implies you either struggled immensely with him or saved him for the last boss of act 2.
I didn't struggle too much with groal, had a few deaths, but man he must have humiliated you for you to wait until you had full upgrades to fight him.
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>>721897614
Choral Chambers, lower left rooms. One of the exits will land you in the Slab.
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>>721896081
I felt like lost lace was basically like the NKG fight to be honest. She’s just harder because she becomes less predictable.
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>>721897679
So i can explore all areas
>>721897720
don't think i've ever seen an enemy with a cage, is that a DS3 reference?
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>>721896469
Moorwing was the least fair fight in the game purely because of how large the contact damage box is and how quickly it moves. It’s actually difficult to hit it without taking damage in my opinion. Everything else was fine.
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>>721897491
Why is she black
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>>721897774
I'm telling you that Hornet with Wanderer is a Knight with shittier spells and a bunch of cope mechanics for how she can't remain eternally in your face dealing damage anymore, and that's the most OP Hornet can ever be. You're just not listening. It sounds like you never fully appreciated how busted the Knight was and don't realize how much worse you've got it now.
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>>721897776
I see what you're trying to do. How sad.
That's Steel Soul without Save & Quit btw, I'm not taking any chances with any boss or gauntlet.

Post your gameplay mr.pro.
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Ant queen sucked. Her moveset is unengaging and all her parryible moves are slightly above your hitbox, she is squirrelly as fuck and also blocks. I ended up just face tanking and spamming. She literally cannot hurt you in the top center of the map too. Why does everyone claim she's such a good boss?
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>>721897916
I'm sorry you had to suffer a near fatal head injury as a child anon. I hope it gets better for you though I doubt it will.
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>>721897796
>So i can explore all areas
it is not worth it
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>>721890932
Why does Karmelita need a gauntlet before her boss why can’t I just fight her
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>>721890932
I'm gonna say it. I hated the ant queen fight.
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>>721897872
Moorwing does have times where you can safely hit him, you just have to wait your turn. His jiggling is there to force you to wait your turn unless you're spamming silk arts or wanna risk a cheeky 2 contact damage.
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>>721897953
Ant Queen is almost exactly Pure Vessel's moveset, you're supposed to be pogoing her to death.
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>>721897990
>why can't I just just kill the queen ant without her faggots warriors defending her
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>>721897783
yeah but that limits your exploration of the Slab, that's how i got to Mount Fay but i couldn't explore the rest of the Slab - it's basically just a path through it
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>>721897684
>is because it's swing speed is the best silk generation in the game
Objectively Witch has the best silk generation in the game
>the game which is what fuels your ability to spam Hornet's much more lackluster spells
I've personally found Hornets spells much better than the Knights. But to each their own
>it's down pogo is straight up better,
There are strengths and weaknesses. The wanderer down air is a very consistent combot tool but it lacks ranger and is lackluster as a safe poke, which is relevant against many enemies. There's a reason many players end up preferring different crests to it
>and her Clawline and sprint attacks are a cope for not being able to iframe dash through attacks
... What? How are you comparing sprint attacks to void dash? Those have nothing to do with each other. You can just say you miss having an i-frame button
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>>721897982
Weak response
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>>721897931
>without save and quit
>I'm not taking any chances with any boss or gauntlet.
>I came back with rune rage to test on him btw
That you keep this charade up is pretty cute
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>Download mods for unlimited shards and no double damage
The game is now fun.
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>>721898108
>her faggots warriors defending her
how are they faggots in this scenario? you wouldn't die for your queen?
she should've spawned adds during the fight, too. there was plenty on the stage
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>>721898115
You can find the Apostate key in Putrified Ducts
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>>721898198
Correct. I'm not arguing with you. I'm pitying you. I don't need to argue with someone that the sky is blue, why would I do that? You just need functioning eyes and a functioning brain to tell that. Sorry you failed this simple check.
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>>721898086
Yes
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>>721897872
>because of how large the contact damage box is and how quickly it moves.
Give him his space. Most of Moorwings attacks directly punish you for trying to stand under him. Just give him his space and hit him during his attacks
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I got to act 3, now what am I supposed to do?
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Why do people feel the need to confess about using easy mode mods or cheesing fights? Do they feel guilty deep inside?
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>>721897776
>extremely abnormal to have all of these before groal
I'm fairly sure you don't need to deal with groal until the very end of act 2. I assume most people get out of bilwater as soon as they find the mist area and only come back after they find the putrified ducts or the nail oil quest.
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>>721898346
You did clear out the second half of Deep Docks? Right anon?
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>>721898207
Post your gameplay.
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>>721898346
Go to the ruined chapel. There are some more sidequests in the town boards too.
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>>721898418
The diving bell thing? Yeah I got to that.
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>>721898246
just don't use tools and don't get hit.
if i wanted to not play the game i would've simply watched someone else's playthrough.
it's okay if you don't find the game engaging, you are not obliged to experience it just so you could keep up with the current popular thing and be able to share your worthless opinion about it in discussions
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Lace is going to be the protag of the 3rd game isn't she?
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>>721898458
Okay then head to the ruined chapel the snails will tell you what to do from there
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>>721898372
>cheesing fights

kill yourself soulscuck
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>>721898149
Witch and Shaman are both really lategame secret crests which is why I didn't include them, but you are correct. I will always say Hornet's spells are worse because there's nothing they can do that matches the Iframe AoE utility of DD or the Everything Above Me Dies utility of Abyss Shriek, especially not in the wider context of how much more punishing it is to use the silk arts versus healing than in HK. Sprinting and Clawline are copes for not having abilities like Void Dash or Abyss Shriek. You can't iframe tank through attacks, you gotta do the zippy duck and weave thing to dance around them, and similarly you can't press Abyss Delete versus flying enemies anymore you gotta find a wall to climb and clawline to them.
What I miss more than an iframe button is the ability to deal damage in ways that don't feel deliberately compromised.
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>>721898270
hmm ok, but how do i find those cage guys? i've never seen one
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>>721897614
figured the mist area out myself. It was kino
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>>721898372
Because when they meet a challenge they assume it's a problem with the game. These are the people who take minor inconveniences as an affront to god
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>>721898372
The only fight I cheesed was final stage first sinner and only because I couldn't see shit with all the fucking rune explosions and bloom everywhere. I just spammed tacks and cogflies hoping it would end and it did. Fuck you and fuck that fight.
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would you?
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>>721898520
The ending makes it very obvious that the 3rd game will be Mr. Mushroom's game, a shoot'em'up about exploring the moon and finding all the wyrms in there.
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>>721898520
Nope.
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>>721898810
No, fat whore.
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>>721898667
Harder games like LoP's DLC released this year and nobody complained.
SS has problems.
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>>721898810
She's a whore so no
Very plappable looking tho
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>>721898941
>nobody complained.
because nobody played them
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>>721898556
>Witch and Shaman are both really lategame secret crests
You can get Witch like halfway through Act 2
>I will always say Hornet's spells are worse because there's nothing they can do that matches the Iframe AoE utility
It would seem your problem isn't actually anything with how Hornet controls or her moveset, you more have a problem with the game not having i-frames and designed around that.
The reason people like things like clawline and the sprint is because of how versatile they are and what they do to Hornets movement. Clawlin lets her get outrageous air time and keep harassing a flying enemy if you know how to use it and sprint lets her move at ridiculous speeds and play with momentum. That's what people mean when they say she controls better, she moves smoother and is generally more fluid and fast, and this is something that applies to every crest variation.
It does also have to be said that Void-dash is also a very late game upgrade etc etc but that's digressing
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>>721898565
I know there's one in Greymoor just outside of the Bell Station, another in Bilewater in one of the rooms directly below the "Bilewater" text on the map and another in Deep Docks to the left of the Silk Skill room, beneath the Hunter's March big vertical room. I also know there's one in Choral Chambers but I don't remember where.

It's just these 3 that gave me jumpscares in my steel soul run.
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>>721898941
>and nobody complained.
People very much did. They had to release nerf patch because people complained enemies hit too hard
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>>721898919
I want Lace to be the one in the 3rd game and they flesh out the parry mechanic to make people angry.
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>>721898810
she belongs to fantastical, erudite, seductive ZOTE
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>>721898941
LoP DLC also added an easy mode to the game
Plenty of people were complaining about LoP difficulty before that. People were complaining about it's difficulty during it's beta. These people just now turn on easy mode and then smile feeling accomplished
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>>721898810
Proof that Team Cherry was always thinking of fanservice with class. Silksong is just them going “Wonder what else we can get away with.”
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>>721899086
>>721899202
I meant on /v/, several people are complaing about SS's walls on this board and they often have very little to do with the enemies themselves, rather how tedious it is to deal with them.
LoP threads had people getting filtered but other than the usual complain regarding an attack's level of "fairness" people were fine with the difficulty
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I want to use witch but the heal is so fucking dogshit...
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>>721898810
Myla is into muscles. Hornet is into fluff. And both keep journals.
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I feel like I hit my skill ceiling in act 2 bros. Act 3 was just pain and suffering. But I gritted my way through it. Yet I barely feel like I got any better. Reaction times and combat placement is still dogshit. How do I improve ?
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>>721899108
It'll be Zote's game.
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>>721899309
>I meant on /v/,
Yeah there were people bitching on /v/ too. You realize this place is like shitter central right?
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My single criticism of this game is that it's too long. It feels like it never ends.
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So, what's the crest tier list?
Mine?
Peak: Architect
Peak, cheapskate: Shaman
Good: Wanderer
Useful gimmick: Hunter / Reaper (equal)
Useless gimmick: Witch / Beast

Am I wrong?
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>>721893874
AAAWWWWOOOOOOOO
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>>721899636
>Wanderer
>Hunter / Architect
>Shaman
>Beast
>Reaper
>Witch
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>>721898667
>>721898941
hollow knight
>easy game
silksong
>transcore kaizo celeste-like soulsborne
that's the problem. they expected everyone speedran no damage godhomo before playing this game.
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Finally beat Moorwing, my steel soul run is going on (lost twice against him, despite how easy he is, now I must find again sinister splinter.)
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>>721898941
Lies of P is very easy, the only hard part is how shitty and unnatural enemy's movements are.
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>>721899519
that's not a piece of criticism. it would be if you explained how exactly it could've been "shorter" and in what what that would've made the game better.
"i want less content" sounds rather retarded in a nutshell, don't you think?
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>>721899075
All of these things you're describing are ways Hornet can bob and weave around the enemies because she can't just kill them. I don't want that flashy shit nearly as much as I want the enemy to just die. That Clawline airtime is cool but what would be cooler is if she could Silk Spear straight up and skewer the little faggot rather than having to go through the trouble. I have rarely played a game that made me think "wait why the fuck can't I do this seemingly obvious thing, is Hornet stupid?" as much as I have playing Silksong.
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>>721899761
Brown.
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Nurse! Nuuurse!
I've fallen into the Abyss!
And I can't get up!
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>>721899919
>in what what
in what way*
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>>721899854
>Lies of P is very easy, the only hard part is how shitty and unnatural enemy's movements are.
god dont remind me
that whole game feels like that Elden Ring Margit mod where he intentionally holds his weapon in the air forever waiting for you to input something and then he drops it at the speed of light as soon as you input

i'll try to find the webm in case you don't know what i mean
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>>721899761
I never did and I'm doing okay with the game. Progress is slow and sometimes I get really frustrated but I recognize the fault is mine, not the game's. I'm just not a good gamer, never was.
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>>721899926
I never realised how bad I wanted vertical silk spear. Surely a modder can do god's work.
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>>721898810
gonna give a flower to her in my next replay fat whore
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>>721899761
so you just wanted a HK reskin?
>they expected everyone speedran no damage
as opposed to what?
they should've expected everyone to be inept at learning and engaging with the games with identity? maybe they really should have
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>>721899636
Peak fun crests: hunter, witch.
Good, but I need to get used to it: beast, shaman.
Op as fuck for no reason: wanderer.
Bad and boring, but the upwards dash attack is interesting: reaper.

Shaman's heal is harder than witch's for me, I need to play with it from the start to get used to the it, I got too used always trying to get as high as possible to heal on most bosses.
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Second Sentinel is an S tier fight, shame I missed it the first time around.
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>>721900035
I just remember fighting that discount bane, and he would do a slow, weak ass movement and suddenly slide across the arena to hit me.
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>>721900217
Generally you should assume every player is DSP and needs handholding
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>lose against a boss
>feels mad as fuck because I'll have to walk through and boring as fuck route four times out of five
>win against boss
>feels nothing because they didn't have any presence, the combat itself was merely okay and I don't feel like I overcame a real challenge anyway
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>>721899636
I loved Hunter too much so I didn't experiment much with Architect or Shaman
This game needs a new game + mode so I can play the whole game using what ever crest I want
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>>721891791
pharloom existed before gms, the shamans mention when they give you the quest for the three hearts that the people youre taking the hearts from were like the previous era of pharloom royalty, and gms took over their land and forced them into irrelevance
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>>721897449
it's literally right above the entrance anon
getting the map is the first thing you do
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>>721900435
this is literally what devs do https://youtu.be/eSB29qx6sWw?si=aikpunJWAH5H8LYq&t=2279
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>>721900570
This, I want to replay this game so bad with shaman, witch or beast from the start. I ng+ mode can't be that difficult to add, right? But hollow knight never gained one...
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>>721900217
>as opposed to what?

as opposed to simply clearing the game and not finishing the transcore dlc?
there is a middle ground between baby game and this
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>>721900758
Nta, I never beat the fourth or fifth pantheon and I have already beaten lost lace.
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>>721900758
Brown.
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How many of you have encountered and beaten Skull Ant without the dash ability? When I met him early in the game I legit was under the impression that you're supposed to parry his jumping attacks if you didn't want to get hit. So I did. It made me think that the game would have parrying as part of its gameplay loop in bossfights from now on and I just had been introduced to the mechanic via that encounter. And then you get the dash and other movement abilities and parry is never relevant again. That was kind of disappointing
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>>721900758
I love how now wanting easier games is the "based" opinion and wanting difficult games is the "trans" opinion, it's actually a very interesting example of rationalization
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>>721900283
I absolutely didn't get gud against him(her?), accidentally killed it with the crystal thingy tool that spawns damaging copy of yourself
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>721890964
>>721891051
>>721891097
>>721891902
>>721892053
>nintroondog third worlder seethe
>>721891208
Tendies can't process the concept of enjoying videogames
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>>721900560
This is what it feels when you're done with act 3's shitty bosses.
When I think about the game weeks after 100% it, I just noticed that most damage and deaths I had were mainly due to contact damage. What a uninteresting and uneven difficulty. They should've scrapped many bosses and zones to try to polish some of their other work.
It's quantity over quality, no doubt.
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>>721899919
>"i want less content" sounds rather retarded in a nutshell, don't you think?
That's not what it means. There are plenty of other ways to shorten the time it takes to play a game without removing any content. Unless you call padding content of course.
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>>721897250
but it does work
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>>721900940
No need to reply to yourself.
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>>721900802
I did too, the gap between HK and Silksong is just nonsensical
They should've made an entirely new game if they wanted to do this
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>>721899919
axing the "gather 10 doodoo feces" side quests would be one
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what would (you) have the PK crest play like?
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>>721901049
>It's only one person complaining about the game!!!!!
Oh no I'm so sorry anon, silksong is the perfectest gamest everest madest.
I hecking looooooooove gauntlets, korean MMO tier fetching quests, zones that are basically big corridors and bosses that only spam 1 ranged attack. THIS is why I waited 7 years.
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>>721901049
>all the people who have mixed opinions on SS are one person
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>>721901049
>feeling so defensive over a game that whenever two people voice a similar negative opinion, you can't help yourself but immediately lash out and shout samefag
fragile
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>>721901174
The meme answer would be that Hornet spins her nails like a saw
The true answer is that it's the Pure Vessel moveset
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>>721897491
Now we're talking
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>>721901097
why
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>>721901042
If it worked as flawlessly as Architect, people wouldn't spend so much time complaining about boss runbacks (they would be complaining about grinding and shop runbacks instead).
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>>721900861
I did it in my first run, but without parrying.
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>>721901178
>>721901182
>>721901236
Subtle.
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>>721900861
If you bring him to the low ceiling corridor he doesn't jump anymore and you can fuck him
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hollow knight is a better game
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>you can get to act 2 through wisp thicket if you use the cocoon method to get double jump in act 1
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how do I get through the door with the giggling girl right next to the bench in Choral chambers
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>>721893917
>>721901178
>>721901182
>>721901236
Mario shart lost
Trananza lost
The genre is now called hollowvania
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>witch bind with claw mirrors and warding bell
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>>721899636
Architect (cheese) -> Witch -> Hunter -> Architect (no cheese) -> Shaman -> Reaper -> Beast
Never used Wanderer because it seemed boring. Beast is probably better than I rated it, but its bind stresses me out and makes me fuck up, and I never figured out how to consistently pogo balloons, flowers, and bells with it.
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>>721901728
I tried playing hollow knight again, but it genuinely feels too barebones compared to silksong, and I still consider it one of the best metroidvanias ever.
Hollow knight has a very slow start imo.
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>>721901763
the video of that guy bruteforcing and coccoonskipping his way up mount fay with the reaper crest is one of the most revolting things i've ever seen.
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>trying to do the speedrun in 5 hours achievement
>its really lenient but i keep restarting because i want a good time
>get to last judge at an hour, not world record pace but whatever
>cant start the boss
>realize the guide ive been following didnt mark the greymoor bell and i just fucking forgot about it
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>>721901862
wanderer is just a step below architect (cheese), it's the designated shitters crest that makes the game easy mode
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>>721900714
For Beast you can just do early Hunter's March.
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>>721901996
>going through blasted steps
uhh
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>>721902068
Retarded soulscuck
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>>721901996
Anon you're supposed to go through Sinner's Road and Exhaust Organ.
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Is the new movement ability in Act 3 a part of mandatory story progression, or is it completely optional and hidden somewhere off the beaten path?
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>>721902225
mandatory
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>>721902216
>>721902178
>the guide i was following is already that outdated
can a brother get a link
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>>721902225
Mandatory.
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>Garmond and Zaza

god fucking damnit man
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Does Multibinder synergize with Witch's Crest bind?
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Act 3 sucks.
I hate void enemies.
I hate everything gone to shit.
Nyleth sucked.
Seth was cool, Flea Circus was cool, Khan/Coral tower was cool, I like Carmelita (though I've not yet beaten her), Lost Verdania was cool
I just fucking despise gay fuck bitch nigger void pissers.
Fuck the void. I'm gonna beat it up.
I hope the boss rush dlc is just beating up voidnigged enemies for hours on end until you permanently kill the void
I need catharsis
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>>721902276
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwKL4vZX4oU
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>>721902248
>>721902291
Tanks. I guess, I'll postpone further exploration then, and progress the main quest a bit.
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>>721902191
But it is literally the easy mode of this game. Early on, people thought it was Reaper, but it does just as much damage as the other crests, with a slower attack.
Wanderer literally is the easy mode of this game. Quickest attacks means fastest silk generation out of all crests, no recovery on attacks and you have a regular heal. Try beating the game with another crest, and you'll understand.

Literally facts.
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>>721900873
let me simplify it for you
>play a good game
cool, i want more good game
>it's now a bad game
wtf why didn't they just make it good again, instead of bad?
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>>721895048
>best way of to play
For geriatric losers who can't handle speed. For the kind of loser who's glad he's beaten the boss at all.
Rushdown is always faster but depends on your reflexes and/or knowledge of the fight.
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>>721902352
The last boss is some reused shit, so hope you like black on black.
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>>721895805
The bilewater theme was one of the more memorable ones, but cogwork core barely nudges it out of the top position for me. As for best area I agree with >>721896451 , but for full-areas, I like Greymoor's towers and Fleatopia. I just wish the stag station in Greymoor was closer to the center, it's already close to the station in bellheart. the Bell Beastlings song fixes this partially
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>>721892632
She also has spike traps despite having 3 skills.
She's jeeting, yeh
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>>721901996
>>721902390
>friend that loves boasting about how good in the game is, wants to try to do the speedrun achievement
>he doesn't admit it, but he uses a guide for everything
>denies it at every chance he gets
>he tells me he is at Bellhart
>I ask him which route he wants to go after, Last Judge, or sinner's road to Phantom
>he says "whatever the vid tells me to do
I swear he didn't enter a room by himself unless the guy in the video also entered it.
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>>721902514
The game doesn't reward agressive play by design. A game like Sekiro does, whether you know the bosses or not. It's only possible in Silksong once you know the patterns by heart, you'll never be successful being agressive if you don't know the boss. You can be agressive in every single fucking game ever once you know the patterns, that doesn't mean the combat is designed to encourage it (and in silksong, it should)
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>>721898520
Dunno, but the 3rd will be the underwater HK/ÂBZU hybrid.
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>>721898298
Actually I beat him entirely by cheesing him underneath while standing near the end of the arena. His contact damage hitbox is bullshit and punishes you for attempting to play normally. They really should make Hornet’s hurtbox about 80% of her actual model I don’t know why it’s her entire full model, no platformers do this.
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>>721897235
This, too little butter scraped over too much bread.
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>>721894396
Clawline with Snitch Pick counts as 2 hits for Hunter Crest buildup.
2 Clawlines and two pogos and you're hitting harder already, easily doable within two attacks of her
It's really good.
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>>721902627
I hate zoomers so much.
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The Beast crest is this bad on purpose right? Like it’s supposed to be a joke item right?
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>>721902949
i just dont understand why it doesnt let you restore at least 4 hp as a trade off for it not being instant
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>>721902932
So do I, but that friend is literally a 30 year old boomer.
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>>721897783
Just feels mean to recommend entering the Slab that way and skipping one of the greatest sequences in the game.
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>>721902520
Well I'm a transexual nintendo fan, so I'll never say no to a bit of blacked porn
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>>721896501
witch kinda sucks for exploration because of the unreliable heal. tho it's gotten much better since they nerfed a lot of environmental damage
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>>721902780
moorwing is just one of these bosses (like the unravelled) that would be so fucking easy with either reduced hitbox or no contact damage. contact damage is like 80% of the damage (and deaths) you take in this game
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>>721891791
>The thing is, when the fuck did Lace and Phantom come to be?
I assume after the Weavers accused Grand Mother Silk of lying to them about their divinity. The Weavers realized that they weren't truly her children and that may have stuck with her, leading to the creation of "true children" made 100% from her silk as a cope.
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>>721902441
I've kept on changing crests throughout the game and no, if wanderer is better than it's by like 5%
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>>721903051
Hum, okay, cool for you, anon. I guess you like the shit final boss? I mean, you obviously enjoy turds, you might be a spiritual indian, or just into cbt.
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>>721902991
it letting you lifesteal is not the only thing it does. you get damage, attack speed and attack range boost. this is the trade off
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Upgraded the basic moveset at the place with the lady. Can you upgrade the other crests too? I’ve only found wanderer and beast so far
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>>721892378
SteelSoul isn't that hard, the only potentially difficult roadblocks are Widow, Judge or Phantom, depending on how many upgrades you want to grab.
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>>721903061
There are a few prolonged platforming segments where you really feel it, the only one that made me stop and switch crests was the escape from the Abyss, but for 95% of exploration there'll be plenty of stuff to heal off of.
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>>721898372
I think it's ok to have tools and shit to make the game a bit more easier for those that are having a hard time with it
I barely used tools but it doesn't seem like they could really cheese the whole game by spaming tools all the time, they'd still have to tryhard and git gud a little bit during some parts of the game
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>>721903401
I dunno. I had a bunch of other crests when I first met her and she only upgraded Hunter for me (despite me not having it equipped or ever using it).

Presumably the others do have upgrades but I don't know how you can control which one gets upgraded.
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>>721903342
It feels designed without the game it’s in in mind. While exploring its worse because it has no fucking tool slots and also the worst down slash for pogo’ing. In boss fights it’s worse because they have very standardized “ok hit me or heal” phases and when you pop Beast you can get maybe 1 hit in 2 on some then you’re back to dodging and the buff wears off before you can make use of the healing or the hurting buff. It’s like it was designed with hollow knight in mind then they decided to make the game nothing like hollow knight.
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>>721903450
widow and judge are both easy
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>>721903575
this
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>>721903250
Well nintendo is spiritually israeli, makes sense that tendies would be spiritually indians
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what the fuck did Widow do to warrant pins lodged in her spine??
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Uhhhh I just woke up and randomly got a thing called Craw Summons, I figured it was for the door in the craw house that always bothered me but why did I get them randomly when I was basically done with the game?
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>>721895695
I just dont understand, why even bother dodging when you can just stand next to everything and kill it while healing.
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>snails
>flies
>moths
>fleas

What are their real world race equivalents?
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>>721891791
The weavers set up the citadel cult to keep the song going forever so GMS never wakes up
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>>721903730
They could mostly fix Beast for boss fights by simply making the buff an instant pop. The fact you have to still stand there and channel makes it comically worthless.
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>>721903932
all jews
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>>721903876
You got unlucky.
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>>721903932
>snails
israeli jews
>flies
american jews
>moths
polish jews
>fleas
russian jews
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>already beat the first ending
>already explored everything except for the small blasted steps area above the grand gate
>still cant find a way to trigger act 3
It's over. I failed to do it on my own. I will have to use THAT.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTicXQYw2ts
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>>721904498
I haven't checked the requirements, but they can't be that harsh. Did you check up with the snail guy in Songclave?
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>>721904498
>still cant find a way to trigger act 3
Pretty sure you just keep doing quests and it eventually pops up.
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I was about to get real upset if all that awaited me on top of this ice hell was just a mask shard
Now I'm happy
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>>721892142
Worldless is on part with it IMO
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>>721904498
After defeating Lace at the top of the citadel it unlocked for me.
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>>721900861
If you're talking about the Skarrguard you find fight at the start of the game, I did it without dash, and without the height cheese. His attacks can be spaced purely by walking but it is extremely precise and it took me a few tries.
>Why would you even do that though?
TC has conditioned me into trusting that all the good loot is hidden behind all the biggest bullshit, and that you thinking "I'm supposed to come back later" really means you're exactly where you're supposed to be.
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>>721890964
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>>721899636
Just used Hunter and Wanderer, barely paid attention to the others after trying them out once
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>>721903828
Sided with GMS, see that one Needolin room in cradle where she's worshipping her
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>>721897776
anon groal is not the flex you think it is
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>last oil is hidden behind the flea minigames

that's it, I'm dropping it
first time I'm dropping a game in a long time, this is the most 6/10 game I ever played but it's just so fucking long, this shit never ends
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>>721897776
I killed Groal today and feel like a gigachad, he died so fast after I stopped being retarded and learned to DODGE
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Is Act 3 mandatory or can you get an ending without it?
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>>721903990
That's a bit cynical
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>>721904897
It's a great feeling finally getting that after that bullshit mountain

>>721905127
bongo cat
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>>721905404
There's an ending before Act 3 but it's an ambiguously "bad" ending
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>>721905127
>those top played
Christ, that's grim. Do people really autistically play Counterstrike all day?
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>>721905404
There's an ending in Act 2 and also a secret ending
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>>721905404
You see the credits in the regular ending.
It's just not the canon ending, probably.
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>>721905404
You get the "completion" screen, but not completion %. You can treat Act 3 as post-game, or the Act 2 "ending" as a fakeout for casuals. It's up to you.
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>>721905404
You can end the game before act 3 if you just play the game mostly mainlining... I watched Skurry autopilot ignore all the quests and get the neutral ending
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>>721905127
borderlandsbros...
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>>721905502
Thirdies do, if you consider them people
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How long do we have to wait for DLC content?
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>>721905336
I don't blame you, but the flea circus is a burnout gauge. It is meant to be silly and lighthearted. It is objectively silly and lighthearted. If it's pissing you off, that means you're too burnt out by all the horseshit leading up to that point. It is not your fault because there is a metric ton of horseshit in the game. But it still does mean you unironically need to stop playing for a few days and come back. That is in large part the game's fault but still.
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>>721905502
at least counterstrike is multiplayer, what the fuck are those stardew valley fucks doing
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>>721899636
I've basically used reaper only with at little bit of hunter and witch.

Is it holding me back, why do others dislike it? The wide downsweep is nice and first attack high forward good too...
Uppercut dashattack OP
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>>721905502
CSGO, DotA and the rest aren't surprising to be that high. Borderlands 4 being that high is the most worrying thing on that list.
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>>721905494
>>721905593
>>721905605
so to get to Act 3 do i need to do something special or whatever? other than clearing every map and doing every quest
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>>721905404
Act 3 is just a NG+ lite true ending, no need to do it.

>>721905336
You don't need more than 1/2 pale oils for an ending really, just do the main quests and get over it.
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>>721901848
>warding bell
useless. if you fail a heal you die and start over
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>>721905748
Do reaper stuff
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>>721905748
Fleas must reach their destination seems to be the biggest thing.

I hadn't done all quests and with that it popped up for me.
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>>721904498
Find enough fleas that they move their camps to the ducts,.there's an npc hidden in the ducts who'll sell their locations if you're stuck.
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>>721905850
Is there not much additional lore or story stuff that happens in act 3?
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>>721905748
>doing every quest
Well, that's what it is, actually. At least, I've heard people say it's every wish BOARD quest.
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>>721895048
>am I too shit to play aggressively?
>no, the game is simply is only possible to be played in a defensive way
My favorite kind of posts, right next to the "It's not hard, it's tedious(because I spent 1 hour stuck in an easy boss/platforming bit)"
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>>721906020
I sure got to Act 3 without doing the delivery quests.
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>>721906054
I mean SS IS tedious on a lot parts
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>>721906086
Well, they don't appear on the board. You talk to the couriers to accept them.
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>>721899636
>Am I wrong?
Yes. Putting Hunter into gimmick exposes you as a retard.
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the ratio of good:bad bosses in ss is bleak compared to hk
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>>721905940
There is, but
>You need to do almost all side quests in the game before that
The payoff is not that big imo.

My recommendation is to do the main quest first and if you are not burned out just reload and unlock Act 3.

Just pace yourself... for your enjoyment.
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>>721905737
It has a low attack speed, now that's not a problem at all when you attack once and bolt, but for enemies that can safely be hit multiple times in a row it really makes a difference. I first noticed it when I experimented with Architect and found that I could suddenly spam the big cogwork corridor guards to death before they really activate. It's still not nearly as bad as some make it out to be, this one particular enemy just really illustrates its shortcomings.
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>>721906054
I love how goofy her threadstorm pose is. Imagine being killed by someone who's looking at you like that.
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just reached lace and it's another boring bullshit fight where the "difficulty" is just taking a previous boss and increasing the speed and damage by 100x. wow, amazing revolutionary game design how did they do it bros
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>>721904073
Yeah I had the hearts and everbloom, but does "resting at a bench" mean sitting on one, quitting the game and loading back up? Because at 50% I feel I should've gotten it if it was just sitting even with bad luck
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>>721906054
>spends 20 hours memorizing each possible pattern and how to abuse the AI
>that obviously means that you are rewarded for aggressive play even though you are severely punished if you don't know the fight by heart
saddest thing is that you record yourself doing this shit with the cuck charm equipped to post online lmao
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>>721905858
>if you fail a heal you die and start over
I rather not
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>>721892149
she filtered millions
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>>721902312
Not allowed to save a bug from the void. Only the creators new pet character
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>>721906054
That boss is a really poor example considering it's gotta be one of the easiest bosses in the game AND you're also pretty solidly into the late game with that setup besides.

Show how to be aggro on Bell Beast or Widow. You can actually be aggro on Lace even without needing upgrades and I think she's a really fun and fluid boss fight for it, but most bosses in the game are Simon Says.
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>>721906362
seeing hornet 2 (and hornet 1) being placed on the same tier as something like Lace or Karmelita is funny
actually these lists make no sense even internally
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>>721891791
they are trying to make new silk beings, to the point of making machines or artificial bugs, after that GMSilk manages to make Phantom and Lace, beings of pure silk
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>>721905336
I did 65 in the flea dodge minigame and realized it didn't count as a win
I downloaded a cheat engine table right afterwards
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>>721906054
To be fair he probably thinks play aggresively means "bumrush them with needle spam over and over again until they die" and not "learn their moves first and then punish every opening aggresively".
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>>721906406
Both "final boss" es in this game feel so underwhelming but for completely different reasons.
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>>721898086
This entire line ruined everything about Hollow Knight for me. Look at her. Look at her succulent curves and tell me this wasn't specifically designed to elicit arousal. Tell me this isn't bait to make you desire used goods. Team Cherry is full of cucks. Every single one of those australian fucks played us for fools, making sure to design the sexiest creatures known to man, only to be met with the gut punch that they're used goods with gaping vaginas taking black cock every single day. I can't imagine the state of all Hornetfags out there who have actual standards, the hurt they must be feeling knowing their wife wasn't saving herself for them. The chinese review bombing wasn't enough. We need every possible language to review bomb these dirty fucks for taking away the purity of our bug wife. I will not be able to sleep until this justice has been undone. Make them patch it out. Make them listen to the fans for fucking once.
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>>721905247
>Players are so traumatized by maggot water they feel beating a boss who loses when he swallows you is also a difficult fight
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dude this game keeps making me go back to the top of mt fay and deep into bilewater
fucking why bro just let it go
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>>721905205
The more I learn about weavers the less I think GMS did something wrong.
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>>721907018
Well she did make the weavers so...
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>>721906054
Why does he have autism?
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I have a lukewarm take.
Wisp Thicket is the worst area in the game. It's short, has pretty much nothing of note in there, and it's way too easy to miss.
At least the boss is kinda interesting, I guess?
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>>721906970
They're the most fun areas :D
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Enemies that make your favorite sounds?
I really liked this nigga conducting. It's a shame you get to fight him basically only twice throughout the game
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>>721907103
This, it's way too small, nothing ever leads you there so it feels like it might as well not exist. Why does Hornet go attack the funny pyromancer cult?
BECAUSE IT'S THERE
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>>721901807
Your attempts to make fandoms fight is as obvious as always.
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Alright, so I probably have about 5 or 6 bosses left to do before I face the final boss. I finally got round to Lost Garmond, RIP o7 and Karmelita who was easier than I expected. I also did Gurr, and I'm wondering what the point of the room you unlock is? Theres 4 statues of seemingly random enemies and a space that's empty. Am I missing something or is there supposed to be a statue missing?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fic7BZIdRgw

Frens!
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>>721906818
and hallownest
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>>721907464
I think he would've stuffed Hornet's corpse and put it there
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>>721907464
pretty sure you were supposed to be the final statue
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>>721907239
OLA ELEIRO
VOLARE
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just finished act 3
50h and 77% completion
how bad am I?
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>>721907481
Drinking and partying at the end of the world, that's how I would want to go out, I admire those fleas a lot.
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>>721907261
This is me totally being an armchair developer, but it would've been cool if rather than Mist leading to Exhaust Organ, it lead to the Wisp Thicket instead. It could have been the area from where the fireflies of the Citadel were captured from, and with them taking Hornet there to free their brethren.
...But yeah, total head-canon from my part. As it is, the area feels really under-baked.
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>>721905127
I genuinely cannot believe Silksong is still putting up these numbers. There are tons of AAA games that can't even hit 20k. Compare $69.99 x 14,000 vs $19.99 x 500,000
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>>721907545
>>721907563
Ahh, that never even crossed my mind. Seems kind of obvious now that they were his trophies, I thought it was something more to do with my own actions.
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Now that I've got silk soar I'm trying to explore everywhere again
anyone remember a place behind a breakable wall where you enter and there are two large bells and you hear some voices on the other side?

any other places I should check out?
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>>721907239
Yeah, he's a cool guy.
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>>721905858
Mirror is a trap, it kills stuff before your tentacles can heal off small enemies.
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>>721907715
Well it wouldn't really fit from the lore either since the fireflies were made in whiteward.
I think Wisp thicket is more or less fine as a secret area, its just there to reference the Grimm Troupe after all.
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Almost 10% of people has 100%ed the game. That seems incredibly high?
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>>721907103
Its by far the most "optional area" and as such it is one of the easiest things to miss. I don't mind it being minimal for that reason, if there was a load of cool, valuable shit I would want it to be more obvious. The mysterious ambience and the weird cult enemies that are unique to that location are really cool. I love it, personally. Way more interesting than Wormways, or Putrified Ducts (barring Fleatopia) anyway.
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>>721908132
No? Every normie is playing with a guide.
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>>721906818
>>721907530
I think the biggest difference is that in HK if 2 areas touch, they connect. But in SS you have shit like bellheart not connecting to underworks, fay and slab not connecting to karak, and hunter's march not connecting to geymoor.
Also I forgot to put in the crossroads-greenpath connection.
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I just realized the FIrst Sinner was designed to be fought in Act 3
but it's so easy to access him in Act 2
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>>721908132
not like 100% is that hard to get, you can miss tons of shit and still get it
and if your game is good enough people will finish it, further proof that this whole moaning about difficulty is just a very loud minority
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>>721892837
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>>721907357
>fandoms
Subhuman tendie tourist moment
We say flamewars here, tranny
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>>721907974
It was mostly fine for my 100% playthrough. I did sometimes swap it for something else when exploring, for bosses its always on.
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>>721908356
Why would that matter? The gameplay is what's challenging, the only thing a guide cuts down on is insufferable navigation and trying to figure out where to go. Stuff that pads your gametime but has basically no other purpose in this game.
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>>721908618
I beat her in act 2 thinking it would unlock a secret ending. But all you get is a really situational silk power.
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>>721908778
>The gameplay is what's challenging
sure, but the exploration is what's fun
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>>721906457
I got mine just resting, not loading up a save. It's only specific benches, so you probably just got unlucky.
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I finally beat her, but bosses like Karmelita are why I'm probably never replaying this game.
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>>721892723
>>721893643
No. Hollow Knight is too easy. So was Dark Souls 1. It is possible for a game to be made worse by being too hard but silksong and elden ring do not even approach that threshold.
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>I have played sentinel to one dying kingdom. That role I will not take again
>See the strength of this kingdom of bugs before we burn it forever in it's saving
>I remain a daughter of Hallownest
Act 3 had some of the most metal one liners.
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>>721908778
>The gameplay is what's challenging
dude, almost 40% of people have the achievement for Malenia in Elden Ring.
difficulty really doesn't matter
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>>721905127
That's fucking nuts, I really thought it would've dropped way below 100k by now
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>>721893117
you say that but karmelita has be whooping my ass for like 4 hours now
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>>721909209
Some people can't game every day.
I'm 44h in and only play 3-5h on weekend days.
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>>721908778
Figuring out where to go is half the fun from this type of game. Marking shit in your map that looks interesting and then coming back later with a new ability, etc. but you're entitled to your own opinion.
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>>721909209
Flavor of the month is flavor of two months, big deal
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>>721897491
I can fix her
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>>721909202
wow that's high, not just to beat her but to even reach her
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>>721909135
>I FUCKING LOVE smashing my head against tedious enemies and areas for no other reason than to show off my MASSIVE two inch incel "REAL" gamer cock online
>YDBTG
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>clover dancers runback
i think id rather not
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>>721909528
If you struggled with any boss in this game for more than an hour or any platforming or enemy segment for more than 15 minutes, you are shit at videogames and need to fucking pay attention while you play.
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>>721909528
>smashing my head against tedious enemies and areas
Dude, you're doing something wrong every time and you should be learning what that something is
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>>721907806
My guess is that old series like Sonic are more popular on consoles while big indie titles are more popular on PC (and sometimes Switch, when they are inspired by SNES games).
And to be fair nobody is that hyped to play a $69.99 kart game on day 1.
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>>721897990
Its maybe the easiest gauntlet of the game somehow. With all 4 nail upgrades those ants that fucked you up all the time in the early game are nothing, and those big cunts at the end who charge at yyou in straight lines are very easy to dodge and you can get full silk before facing Karmelita. If anything its helpful.
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>>721907239
I think it's funny how the cogflies immediately ditch the fight after he goes down.
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>>721894861
My issue with any aerial build for Architect is that it's down attack sucks ass for pogo.
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Just beat GMS, far too easy imo, 3rd try. Found it funny she fucking falls of the cradle (thought she just peaced out and left desu) , but the ending with her screaming in pain and terror as she's slowly bound was somewhat disturbing. Does Hornet become a higher being? Or does GMS take over her body inside out parasite style. (Or that unused ending style)
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>>721908132
100% is just true end + a collectathon. I hit 93% and just looked up which illusory walls the stuff I had missed were hiding behind.
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>>721909637
>mfw I left them alone because I couldn't be bothered with the runback and now I remember I have to go all the way back and fight them before I complete the game
This is the only runback in the game I will call bullshit. AIDS, even.
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>>721909528
the only two bosses this applies to are groal and the clover dancers. everyone else has normal to non existant runbacks or at worst a really small gauntlet and if you somehow thought it was too long then you probably didn't explore the map.
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>>721909971
It's implied that Hornet successfully usurps her power
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>>721909528
kek the person who made this image was so fucking mad over being called a shitter.
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>>721909934
You have a whole extra tool slot for the drill, which you conveniently find in the same area as the crest..
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>>721909135
>I dump hundreds of hours into games just to then complain that they're too easy, please keep upping the difficulty forever until it sucks ass to play to feed my digital crack addiction
Unironically go play a game with pvp desu, human opponents will always be a harder challenge than the AI
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he was way too easy
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MAKE ANOTHER ILLEGAL GENERAL ON /V/ ALREADY
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>>721909637
... why would you need to run back to them?
You literally beat him already as part of the act 2 progression, the only difference is the damn dance attack.
You shouldn't be dying to an (easy!) boss you've already beaten.
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>>721910223
>he posts as he's 1 hit away from death
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>>721910223
To account for people struggling with the gauntlets before. It's a victory lap.
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Two questions
1. Why do people say reaper is bad? I beat the whole game with it thinking it was by far the best (fast with long range)
2. Is Wisp Thicket / the fire cult referenced anywhere else in the game or is it just a dark souls Easter egg
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>>721910351
what kind of response are you expecting here exactly
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>>721906818
Pharloom's locations had a a lot of wasted potential to me. There's great areas like Coral Tower, Verdania and Wisp Thicket that ended up being tiny areas you visit once while areas with weaker or redundant theming make up big chunks of the game.

Putrified Ducts looks too similar to Bilewater, Sands of Karak is too much like Blasted Steps, and Far Fields blurs with Mosshome, Shellwood and Hunter's March, plus lava like the two areas left of it.

There's less colorful areas too. I love Greymoor, but I don't want the whole game to be drab. HK areas had distinct colours, often vivid ones.
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>>721910223
It's the reward for getting through the gauntlet.
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>>721910459
He isn't. There's a few anons on here who post solely to jerk off their epeens about how they killed every boss first try and therefore that the game's flawless
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>>721908665
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>>721905493
its crazy all of my female friends online are playing it
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>>721910605
stupid mesugaki
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>>721910450
Reaper's attacks are slow but don't deal more damage so its theoretical max DPS is much lower than every other crest
You can hear the cultists from the other side of the bell that the boss fight is in from a secret room in underworks, but otherwise no, not that I can tell
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>>721910568
to be fair, 99% of the time i see someone complaining about some of the game's design and they post an example (or even better, a clip) it becomes painfully obvious they genuinely fucking suck at the game but they attribute their frustration to some made up design flaw instead of the game simply asking too much of them
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>>721909971
The UI changes when Hornet binds GMS just like when you get a new crest, and a NPC also mentions that Hornet basically absorbs all the knowledge and power of a crest's original source when she binds it to her body, so it's same to assume she is the new silk queen in that ending (while GMS is just a "how to brainwash people with silk" spellbook in her brain).
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>>721910814
I bet hornet would be a nice silkgoddessmommy
I consider ending 1 the good ending
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>>721910450
>Why do people say reaper is bad?
Muh Dee Pee Ess
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>>721910450
the main reason i don't like it is because its pogo is weird and moves you downwards first which often makes you hit what you're trying to pogo.
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>>721910704
>cute bugs
>female protagonist who is neither ugly and obese nor blatant coombait
>flavor of the month
Is it really that crazy?
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>>721910946
First canon nopan western protag?
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>>721910459
I'm expecting you to say "Sorry, I'm bad at the game" and shut the fuck up.
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>>721910946
Blue board anon, fucking hell
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>>721910735
stupid mesugaki wife*
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>>721911106
Choke on my balls, bro
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>>721911052
>nor blatant coombait
>>721910946
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>>721910946
Hot
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>>721911106
i think you're just a god at videogames anon
i'm truly in awe of your incredible skills, please post more of your insightful wisdom
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>>721910605
I like their expressions here. Feels fitting.
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>>721910913
I also believe it's not a bad ending (she is spraying silk all over the place and turning into a full weaver/spider, but at least she isn't brainwashing everyone like in the unused ending), but Hornet enjoys her freedom (even if her instincts are constantly telling her to become a higher being like GMS) and getting a job is against her NEET principles.
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>>721910313
i know you and your fellow tendiexisters need space for more blacked cuckshit threads, but you're gonna have to cope, nigger
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>>721910751
I laughed when I saw someone screaming at the Raging Conchfly runback and it turned out he hadn't opened the shortcut so the poor guy had to do the cock and balls torture platforming segment every attempt.
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>literal stick figure + red cloak + white horned mask = instant iconic design in gaming
it's this easy huh
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>>721911486
Simplicity is the hallmark of good design.
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>>721911476
someone was complaining about the pogo input being too imprecise and then he said he was playing with the analog stick
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>>721895523
I'm still in Act 2 and I have both Wreath of Purity and Longclaw.
Dunno about the rest.
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>>721911486
'Less is more' has always been accepted right?
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>>721911675
I beat the whole game 100% on the analog stick. Why is it meant to be bad?
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Wait, people don't just play on the keyboard?
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>>721895523
Only Shaman and Pale Nails are act 3 exclusive.
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>>721911476
kek reminds me of when I got the sherma whiteward quest and in my distress I completely nuked the knowledge of the whiteward bench from memory so I did a dumbass runback from songclavia via ventrica and through the chambers
I have no idea how that happened.
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>>721911813
People don't play with one hand on their dick at all times?
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>>721911759
Because it's imprecise.
D-pad down pressed is binary. If keep that pressed, even while pressing left or right I'll pogo.
On a stick, if you're at 50degrees to the right you might not register as down anymore and do a normal attack.
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>>721911314
I said blatant.
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>>721911991
She's literally flashing her spider pusspuss right at you
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>>721911991
>>721912079
they were talking about bongo cat
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>>721911990
idk man it's much easier for me to just move the stick around than hold d-pad down+left or down+right
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>>721911990
Analog sticks should have little magnets that help keep it on the orthogonal or diagonal edges
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>>721895990
He saw the light.
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>>721895990
He's just a dreamer, he dreams his life away
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>>721910207
I used that for conches.



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