I'm about 30 hours in, does the combat get better? I'm not a complete newbie I understand stuff like yokai shift, ki pulse and ki pulse stance changes, but I still feel the combat is still kind of meh. This was sold to me as an ARPG for people who like Ninja Gaiden, but this still feels like 80% soulslike with some NG elements sprinkled in
Filtered. Go back to soulsop then
>he got filtered before finding Izuna Dropkek
>>721891452youre most likely doing it wrong
>>721891452>This was sold to me as an ARPG for people who like Ninja GaidenThat is Nioh 3, not Nioh 2 or Nioh 1.Nioh 2 is overrated, Nioh 1 is the superior game. I am glad Nioh 3 is shitting in the mouth of Nioh 2 fans and returning to Nioh 1 + WAY more Ninja Gaiden stuff.Best 120 euros I've ever spend on a Digital Deluxe Edition of a game.
It's your fault if you find the combat meh.There's so many different builds with multiple combos to focus on.You are probably playing the game like Dark Souls (incorrectly)
>>721891452It is as good as you make it. It's not as fast paced or flashy as Ninja Gaiden but the mechanical depth and RPG mechanics make it something equally great on its own.
>>721891452notice the lack of burst counter and animation cancels>he's waiting for his turn to roll like a good boy
>>721894207parryslop
>>721894329banned.
>>721894207>and RPG mechanics make it something equally great on its own.This is what Nioh 2 subhumans actually believe, lmao. Not in a million years.So happy Nioh 3 is shitting in the mouth of Nioh 2 subhumans and actually putting a lot more Ninja Gaiden stuff into the Nioh formula + going back to Nioh 1 living weapons :)
>>721891452The combat is already great, you're just bad. You will get better at it though, don't get frustrated by /v/ shitposts.
>>721891452It gives you tools to make the combat busy and variedBut you can also play it as braindead as possible, like met. high stance strong attack axe/hammer spammer
>>721891452It get better once you understand fluxing and stance switching if not then its not for you https://youtu.be/cth073mF56s?feature=shared
>>721891452https://youtu.be/Yf1bCGQ48c4?feature=sharedYou need to chain your combos Its ok to play it like a souls game on ng since you don't have most of the moves unlocked early on
>>721894024Doesn't help that everybody calls it "Dark Souls 1 but Eastern-themed". It ain't it.
You need to be at level 8 gorillion in order to actually have fun and do sick combozz, without that, it's just an overly complicated soulslop game.If you want to invest that much time go ahead and keep playing, otherwise just go back to ninja gaiden or another soulslop game
>>721894658This is a whole new level of schizo
>>721895583Overly complicated to describe a game that has more movement than a roll is crazy. You're just mad that you actually have to try.
>>721894658Are you the christ schizo in his 30s wishing death on everyone in yesterdays NG thread? You type like him
>>721894847Based spamming enjoyer. Ninjas choose whatever works.
>>721895583>You need to be at level 8 gorillionNo you don't, lmao.
>>721895696Movement is fine, i like it. I just don't like how the game limits your creativity until you reach certain level. >>721895850Yes you do, just look at those combo videos.
>>721895916>Yes you doAgain, no you don't. What changes at level 6 million and is now accessible that you didn't have before?
>>721895970Changes the fact that hide doesn't run out breath after walking 3 steps
>>721896163How does it do that? You have access to tools like barrier talismans, sacred water and flux2 very early on.
>>721896163bro, your ki pulse?
>>721896285What's that
>>721896273>>721896285That doesn't change anything early on. Things only start clicking into the late game.
>>721896513>That doesn't change anything early onThe ability to recover ki faster doesn't change anything related to this discussion? Wild.>Things only start clicking into the late game.Unironically skill issue
>>721891452I have almost eighty hours in this game, it's just okay. Nothing will ever compare to ninja garden black in Xbox unfortunately.
>>721891452>ARPG for people who like Ninja GaidenYou were lied to. The combat system has depth but the game never expects you to explore it and the shit enemy design reflects that.
>>721896612FineLet me see an early/mid game SICK COMBO (which is the topic of conversation) and I'll eat my words.
>>721891452The fans of this game are in deep denial, desperately grasping as straws to "priove" it isn't a by-the-book Souls clone. But it is. And nothing can change it.
>>721896695It's so easy to do I'm really not sure why you're even upset about it. Here's a quick video I found. It's as simple as a series of lights flux2 into another, flux 2 again, regen ki while you use a yokai ability to pressure and just repeat.https://youtu.be/3h7qrlWOkmo?si=4RWnKgf9Oxoq_4Y5
The combat gets better because you will continue to unlock more stuff and also because you will (ideally) continue to improve at the game.
>>721896963Someone has to take the souls formula and make a fun game out of it, miyazaki doesn't have it in him any more
I started playing through Nioh 1 recently and I'm still less than 10 hours in, but I keep seeing people say its wrong to play it like dark souls but I really can't see how its any different other than having a few different combos you can use if you want. Every single fight the same strategy works. Move in, bait out an attack, run in and get a couple hits, dodge out. Every now and then get a stance break on the enemy and I can get in a few extra hits. If i try to do any kind of more complicated attack, either the enemy gets staggered and I can just infinitely combo them to death, or they power armour through it and kill me in one hit. So what motivation am I meant to have to do anything different than the most basic strategy if it seems to work every time? Even if I can pull off an infinite combo to keep stunning an enemy, is that even a fun way to play the game? It stops being an actual game and just a series of buttons you press over and over again to always win. I'm still enjoying the game playing it like dark souls, but I dont understand how people say it's different. And I literally can't even conceptualise how it would become anything different 2bh.
I dunno what to play after playing big stick Odachi for so longTonfa was good for a while but got too annoyingAxe was too braindead
Is switchglaive coming back for 3 or are we getting an actual naginata this time?Or neither, more likely.
>>721897087From makes difficult games, not fun games.
>>721897181Where are these difficult games?
>instead of arguing and calling obviously retarded faggots retarded faggots i just ignore their postsBros am I getting more mature
>>721897238I'm ignoring this post.
>>721897093>It stops being an actual game and just a series of buttons you press over and over again to always winDumbest shit ITT, congrats
>>721897224
>start playing game>it's buttonpresslop
>>721897347>want to play game>its gameplayslopDay ruined
>>721897305He's the type of person to call smalltalk and conversation 'engagement farming'
>>721897305Can you explain why? I'm genuinely trying to understand why people say this game is different than dark souls. Is it really just because you enjoy being op and pressing the right buttons to infinitely combo an enemy? If that's it it's fine, I can see the appeal, it's just not something I personally look for in a game.
>>721897414That tickled me
>>721897452Can you start a stream for us and show us how you're playing?
>>721897093dodging is gay you're supposed to time 0 ki guards and shit and face tank everythingyes comboing
>>721896976Lmfao nigga WHERE is the sick combo? You're just proving my point here
>>721897513I told you how I'm playing, I play it like dark souls 90% of the time. I bait out an attack, move in and get a couple hits in, then dodge out. I occasionally use the block but it takes up most of my stamina so doesnt seem like a great option. If i try to use the ki pulse after a combo, normally the enemy will have started attacking back by the time its ready so I'm better off just dodging out, unless its an enemy that's about to get stance broken. I only just beat the centipede boss so I'm not super deep into the game. I'm genuinely trying to understand what I should do to make the game more fun like you people seem to think it is.
>>721897737Post a sick combo then. All combos in nioh 2 are just stringing together strings and skills with flux and yokai skills. It's clear you never even played
>>721897823I didn't ask for words I asked for your gameplayStart a stream, just make a burner account and show us
>>721897823That sounds like an incredibly boring way to play. RIP
>>721897452nta but once you get into the end game, armor set bonuses can get hectic because there's a set where you need to use 8 separate moves to get a stacking damage buff(that resets every minute or 2, it's been a while i forget the exact timing). so it's not just about hitting the enemy, it's about using different moves to punish different attacks so you can deal more damage while also applying 2 different status effects to apply the confusion debuff on the enemy so they take more damage. so it's about setting up to do massive combos but it's a skill intensive setup where you need to enter in 8 different commands, it's closer to a fighting game than anything but there's extra things like magic and ninjutsu on top of that. new game nioh is very surface level, once you get into the ng+++ cycles it's a full on autism simulator(i mean that as a compliment).
Nioh and NG has the most retarded playerbases. They somehow convinced themselves that playing these shitty games make themselves look cool or something.
>>721897948You are confused, what you describe is the DMCuck fanbase.NG and Nioh playerbase play these games because they are fun games.
>>721897948Just say you got filtered, it's more concise.
>>721897823>I play it like dark souls 90% of the time. I bait out an attack, move in and get a couple hits in, then dodge outThis is ignoring over half of the combat
>>721897948That is a lot of words just to admit you were conquered.
>>721897948This is quite literally Turd Strike "fans"
>>721898048And I forgot to mention that they have DMC living rent free in their heads.
someone stream so I can watch while I'm working
>>721897929Can you tell me how you play then, to explain how it should be more fun? Do you know a super secret combo that constantly stance breaks enemies so you don't have to worry about them attacking you back? Because that's my issue - if I try and do an extended combo, the enemy power armors through my attacks and kills me in one hit. What am I meant to do to prevent this?
>>721898129>>721897882Why can't you show us how you play?
>>721897093Just Flux II and keep attacking and dodging every now and then, it is the most fun. There is no need to play too defensive.
>>721898116>Sword very beginner friendly>Fists high skill ceilingSword has the highest skill ceiling, which moron made this chart?
>>721897948I'm new to both and the games are fun but engaging in the threads here is more than a 50/50 on whether you get genuine responses or just autistic screeching about how you played the game wrong or the wrong version of the game, it's incredibly confusing
>>721898162because i dont care enough about some faggots on 4chan to set up a stream holy shit stop replying you fucking retard. every one else can fucking visualise what im doing im not being cryptic or trying to mislead you.
>>721897093Yeah and the infinite combos are literally just throwing in random moves and it's a check about having high enough stats to keep chaining them.Like here this guy ends up killing the boss from 100 to 0 without it ever recovering from the stun and the player still ends the "combo" with full stamina https://youtu.be/Yf1bCGQ48c4?t=14
>>721898319>psh this game is easyOK can you show us?>n-no you're autisticWhy is getting /v/ to play videogames such a struggle?
>>721897093When people say "like Dark Souls" they usually mean playing a purely R1-O playstyle, ignoring mechanics like ki pulse, horn breaks, out-of-ki combos, onmyo/ninjutsu, never blocking, etc. I think it's more relevant to Nioh 2, where Souls players sometimes will refuse to use Yokai abilities (which are not in Nioh 1) because they just want to R1 O everything, and wind up making the game miserable for themselves.>either the enemy gets staggered and I can just infinitely combo them to death, or they power armour through it and kill me in one hit.If you hit a yokai enemy's horn (or other glowy yellow bits, depending on the enemy), it will immediately stun it. When a yokai runs out of ki, it loses its hyper armor, so you can just beat on it until it recovers its ki. You can also prevent its ki from recovering by chaining elemental ailments on it. By combining these things, the game allows you to be a lot more aggressive.If you're having a good time, I wouldn't worry about it. I think the game is more fun if you take advantage of all the cool mechanics, but it also took me a while of playing the game before I started using them all.
>>721898313That's just /v/ as a whole. These days I open a tab, look for a nioh/ninja gaiden/tn thread and close tab if I don't find one. Even so discussion is grim in these threads, I'm just excited for ng4/nioh 3
>>721898116I'll start a shitty player stream if you want, that'll be my cope when I lose btw
>>721898252People beat the entire game using nothing but 1kat in mid stance.
>throws a rock at you from 2 postcodes away
>>721898363The player continuously applied elemental ailments to keep the human boss in confusion which keeps them from regenning ki. Pretty common on dream of nioh difficulty
>>721898464So? Sword still has highest skill ceiling in the game.
>>721898464ok but that's still playing on hard mode
>>721898502>rock landsI cant wait for gigga nigga gaki in 3
>>721898369why do you care about how hard i think it is? the difficulty isnt the point im making at all. I died a lot on the first 2 missions. since then i havent died much. if you think im lying fine, move on with your life. my strategy works, no one else seems to disagree with that, they're just saying its a boring way to play the game. all im trying to do is understand how to get the most out of the game.
>>721898506Yeah the player continuously attacked so that the enemy couldn't move. Absolutely disgusting.
>>721898464You can do this with every weapon in the game
>>721898589>t. Saito toshimitsu
>>721898582Didn't read lolGet nure-onna'd you retarded non-playing faggot lmao
>>721891452Bait used to be believable.Go fuck yourself with the sharpest end of a Kusarigama, negroe
>>721898640Grr I hate this yokai. Don't post any more images of her close up from below looking very wet. I mean it!
>>721898707Out of respect I will not, I would never ever do anything on 4chan to upset another user
>>721898440yeah do it anonprove to /v/ that you play video games
Nioh 2 is peak
>>721898363>minmaxed planned out builds with great execution on it's gameplan should not be extremely powerfulFuck off to some other kind of game
>>721898759Well alright maybe just one image
>>721898814>so what if being good at the game breaks it!So it's only fun if you're stupid? Also stats are what the game is about. It's just a game full of repetitive dungeons that you play again and again for your number go up.
>>721898768https://www.twitch.tv/ilikethesongtwoprincesMic should be working, prepare for one of the Nioh 2 players ever
>>721898973>so what if being good at the game breaks it!>It's just a game full of repetitive dungeons that you play again and again for your number go up.Why are you even concerning yourself with this game at all if this isn't what you want?
>>721891452>okai shift, ki pulse anHave you leveled up your skill tree? You get so many new abilities so you can chain them with ki pulse.
>>721891452Nioh is passable but it never ever reaches the highs of Souls games. Not even close.
At its core Nioh is a soulslike, it might be faster and have more mechanics, but the fundementals are the same, the core DNA is the same. You can ignore the majority of mechanics and just play it like a Souls game, its deliberately designed that way.
>>721899065What highs are those? Souls is fun as a sightseeing game but isn't very engaging nor replayable
>>721898053I am ignoring half the combat because the game has not motivated me to engage with its systems yet. If every enemy is defeated by this strategy, why should I explore other strategies? Every time I have tried to explore other strategies, the game has punished me for it. I would like to be able to do stronger combos, but as I said, if I try and do an extended combo, the enemy power armours through my attacks and kills me in one hit. No one has explained to me how I am meant to prevent this.
>>721899050Probably because there's a bunch of people trying to convince me and others that these games are good action games and not number loot games about stats, buffs and afflictions.
>>721899089>filename still the sameLove it, keep posting
>>721891452If you're not trolling (unlikely), please drop the game and never come back to the series.Anyways everybody else, hopes for Nioh 3? I hope they cap it at NG+4 like SoP did and just give us an infinite Abyss.
>>721899150>No one has explained to me how I am meant to prevent this.It has been explained multiple times in this thread.And not learning as you play is some next level of not paying attention.Enemies, even bosses, lose super armor when their Ki is depleted
>>721899047alright after some fucking around we are gaming
>>721899151>good action gamethey are.They're also about collecting loot and building a powerful character.
>>721899235>Anyways everybody else, hopes for Nioh 3I hope they give you stone of penance from a get go. Allow me to make the game as brutally hard on a new game as i want, and reward it with better drops.
>>721899235An endgame similar to rifts in sop would be very nice. Actual modifiers and smaller level instances across a rift ladder kept me in sop for ages.I'm still not sold on open field either. The TGS footage had sparse enemy density. Would be nice if devs actually got someone good at the game to show off the gameplay like platinum with ng4. Beyond that maybe a steam beta
>>721899235>hopes for Nioh 3?There is no need to hope, it is already doing everything I want. It went back to Nioh 1 living weapons + added a massive amount of Ninja Gaiden to the Nioh formula. Nioh 2 subhumans seething about it, I will continue to laugh about it, so happy Team Ninja took a massive shit in the mouth of Nioh 2 subhumans.
Every guardian spirit except Rokugezo is Reddit.
>>721899115Getting the FUCK out of Blighttown. All of Anor Londo. Abyss Watchers. Irithyll of the Boreal Valley.Too many to count in Bloodborne and Elden Ring.
>>721899372Well where is this good action game then and why is every good player just playing a game where enemies don't get a turn? Could it be because it's not an action game but a number game, and only the people who like to see numbers going up and the game getting easier will find it to their liking?
>>721899530I'll give you ds1 but elden was a boring mess
>>721899281Yes, I mentioned in my original post that occasionally I stance break an enemy and can get a few extra hits in. Obviously I noticed this. Then it recovers its ki and its back to my classic strategy. This is still not really any different to an enemy getting staggered in dark souls. I suppose at this point I typically do use the ki pulse to extend my combo, but they generally recover their ki fairly quickly, so it still just feels like dark souls 90% of the time, and the other 10% its dark souls where you have to press an extra button input every now and then.
>>721899546>Could it be because it's not an action game but a number game, and only the people who like to see numbers going up and the game getting easier will find it to their liking?Nah, that's a retarded observation completely disconnected from the nioh community.
>>721899546>Could it be because it's not an action game but a number game,You could be given the best build, gear, stats etc in the game and you would fail to do those kinds of combos.So why are you concerned with the people who learned how to do that?The way they play the game has nothing to do with you.You can't do that
>>721899438I'm not looking forward to the open world, either, but I will probably be getting the game well past all the DLC is released on a discount, so there'll probably be a bunch of sites mapping out everything I need/want.>>721899487How is Nioh 3 taking a shit on Nioh 2?
>>721899576Use abilities, buffs, combos etc that stance break more oftenStop trying to FD NO ITEMS FOX ONLY the game
>>721899647Yeah Nioh community seems to be completely disconnected from grounded logic.
>>721898707
>>721897823>>721898582 light armor sucks that's why your block is losing too much ki on block, you should only use it if there's a set bonus you needbtw if you have the Ki Pulse: Man skill then your next block is FREE after ki pulsing in middle stance you should 100% be abusing thisalso you're almost always meant to block a first hit or out of hitstun and dodge cancel your block, dodging is more for positioning than actually dodging in this game.You ARE supposed to pace yourself on yokai until you stance break them and then unloadif you use your high stance attack on a yoki you'll almost always trigger a stance break by breaking their horn weakpointalso Nioh 1 has its dickriders and I don't think it's good to skip it but I also think it's lacking in some ways since the most optimal way to play is literally just to abuse living weapon with the first fire spirit, because it has absurdly good attack conversion stats for its LWI also think you should be utilizing Flux skill, you're a noob at the game so you probably haven't used this properly yet. If you have this then you get lots of free ki and you will find you aren't being pressured as hard by ki starvation and spending more time being aggressive.
you can do it stream anon
>>721899673The open world change seems incredibly unnecessary and will eat up a big portion of dev resources. Hope I'm wrong but I only watched videos of the alpha since no ps5. Kind of agree with the other anon about more ng stuff even if he sounds like a retard schizo. Ninja style should definitely lean into more aggressive vertical play. I just hope yokai are adjusted for this. Maybe more aggressive movesets. Maybe more encounters that are 1v3 or 1v5, again we've seen a lot of 1v1 and a decent player would just steamroll with all the new aggressive options. I really hope old yokai get more moves.
>>721899701I am happy playing the game this way. Same way I dont use OP builds in dark souls to 3 shot the bosses, I like fights to have a bit of back and forth. I dont want to learn how to infinitely combo enemies, I wanted to learn how to get the most out of the game, and it seems like to most people in this thread that simply means infinitely comboing enemies. That's fine, it just means we are looking for different things in a game. I just think it's strange that the Nioh community has such a chip on its shoulder about the game being very similar to dark souls. Nontheless, I am enjoying playing it.
>>721899981>the game being very similar to dark souls.lol
>>721899978Again, I agree. Nioh does itself no favors by chasing the skirts of FromSoft. Then again, marketing itself as a Soulslike-but-Japan has probably garnered it more sales than the minute mechanical ticks that keep true fans hooked.
>>721899650This is just the same sad wordplay people use with all the other grindy number games. It's like Path of Exile how people are doing the most basic shit on their high level characters but pretend it's something big because their numbers are big. And they defend their time spent with "w-well you couldn't do it". Yeah I couldn't do it because I don't have the brain to grind some shit for hundreds of hours. But I managed to convince him to play the game on his character. And to nobody's surprise I was able to beat the same content as he did. In games like these the player barely gets any better, it's the character, but some people are just too stupid to figure that out I guess and are easily enthralled by some basic ass game design tricks.
>>721899673>How is Nioh 3 taking a shit on Nioh 2?Went back to Nioh 1 living weapons.Reduced RPG elements in favor of more Action elements.Only 7 Nioh 2 weapons are returning, not more.4 Nioh 2 weapons are getting reworked into dedicated Ninja Style weapons.3 new Ninja Style weapons added.Ninja Style is extremely action focused and has access to a lot of Ninja Gaiden moves.Nioh 2 subhumans wanted Nioh 2 again, but Team Ninja confronted them with the truth that Nioh 2 isn't the "perfection of the formula" that they were spewing for many years, Nioh 3 is already a superior game to Nioh 2 and it will only get better and better as the full game comes out and then later the DLC expansions.
>>721900191Looks like I managed to delete a sentence when adding spaces. What I was trying to say I had a friend who played POE and I got him to let me play on his character.
>>721900191>Yeah I couldn't do it because I don't have the brain to grind some shit for hundreds of hours.You can't do it being gifted a saved with the best gear in the entire game
>>721900181Well I hope they use that profit from those sales to make nioh 3 something incredible. The potential is definitely there as are the resources. I've seen animations and assets ported from rise of the ronin so I hope they can use everything at their disposal to make the combat even more addictive than 2.
>>721900227>Ninja Style is extremely action focused and has access to a lot of Ninja Gaiden moves.As long as they dont cave to some vocal fags and keep directional inputs in ninja style they could easily port most move sets from NG kek
Big titty muscle yokai that grapple you into a long intimate animation.
>stream anon getting raped by Fukiman I almost want to join your session but I'm 100% sure it's gonna be laggy as shit
>>721900227Sounds like most of your quips are with weapon realignments. I'm not saying I prefer 2 over 1 or vice versa, but "taking a shit" is a bit hyperbolic. While I personally preferred LW to Yokai Mode, I think the Yokai counters add a lot of nuance and individuality to your builds. tbf, I've been a voiding the trailers and gameplay footage, so my opinion means smack.>>721900357As do I. But unfortunately the market decides. we shall see, of course. I still go back to Nioh 1 and 2 and SoP, so it's not like I'll ever be wanting for that specific fix. Haven't played RoR. Sell it to me.
>>721891452If things aren't clicking for you yet, maybe try a different weapons class? For me it was the switch from 1kat to spear that slowly turned the game from a confusing soulslike to a fun fast-paced ARPG with ton of combo options.Also getting to ng++ and unlocking some of the cool graces like the one that gives you versatility vastly changes the way you play and make things more fun.
As a NG fan Nioh 3 might be the first Nioh I enjoy simply because they added a jump and you're not just glued to the ground in levels anymore
>>721899978>The open world change seems incredibly unnecessary and will eat up a big portion of dev resources.Dev resources for what exactly? because the first two games are just the same maps over and over with alternate enemy placements. If you played RoR that game honestly had a bad open world that was empty as hell mainly because it was trying to be like an open city simulator. I was quite pleased with the alpha it was very densely packed, not too focused on checklist collectables with busywork tasks, pretty much every location on the map was different. I think the only thing that disappointed me was that the castle town was literally just a bunch of empty ruins after clearing the crucible.>Ninja style should definitely lean into more aggressive vertical play from what we've seen in the alpha it already leans into this a lot
SEA is turning their attention to Nioh now that they lost to Silksong and Silent Hill f I see
>>721900552I'm taking a break from nioh atm and have been playing ninja gaiden trilogy like crazy in anticipation of 4.Regarding ronin it's an odd one. There's a standard ubisoft type checkbox open world that I didn't find particularly interesting and it was pretty clear that the combat was designed to have a relatively low floor for entry for mass appeal. Even with that though it's very fun and very flashy. Stances are still there but every stance comes with preset attacks that fit the theme of that stance. I think 1kat has the most at 12 distinct stances you can swap between. Very flashy and the game encourages you to learn to animation cancel and experiment with these stances and moves. A lot of enemies have hyper armour to push the player to engage with the back and forth parry dance that puts the enemy in a 'panic' state where they're no longer hyper armoured at which point you do your combo mad shit. Though if you're good and know how to pressure the enemy into blocking by cancelling their animations you can quite easily pressure them outside of this state. The time period is very unique and cool imo. Not their best game but I had a ton of fun with it. Definitely their best human boss fights imo.
>>721900227>Reduced RPG elements in favor of more action elementslmaoif you played the alpha you would know Nioh 3 has way, way more character building to do. You literally get an entire fucking new ninja build with new abilities to manage on top of your existing samurai playstyle, so now you have to set up two different builds of equipment and skills that you switch between instantly. How's that for reduced RPG elements fucking retard. At first I thought you were just baiting but no you really are that fucking stupid.
>>721900635>. I was quite pleased with the alpha it was very densely packed, not too focused on checklist collectables with busywork tasks, pretty much every location on the map was different. I think the only thing that disappointed me was that the castle town was literally just a bunch of empty ruins after clearing the crucible.Well I hope I get this experience too if they ever drop a beta on steam. I'll buy either way, it's just a concern.
>>721900552For me, outside of liking the time period of RoR and roleplaying in it, I really enjoy doing combos with character swapping between your party and trying to get a real good air juggle on an enemy. It has fun player expression in gameplay, but especially in character customization and I hope RoR's transmogging and outfit system is ported over to Nioh 3's and all their future titles.
>>721900552RoR is neat but it's kind of disappointingin the prologue mission they kinda sell to you that you'll have both Blade Twins, get to equip them with two different gear sets, and hotswap between them in combat to use the one you wantthen your Blade Twin fucks off forever, yeah you get allies like Wo Long and you can switch to control them but you can't manage ally loadouts or anything they're set and only follow you in the missions.The open world is very lovingly crafted and the atmosphere is great, there's fuckall to do in it though besides walk to the next bandit gang camp.the combat and gear are not as complex as Nioh games some things are "kinda" in the game but like blade flash is a poor substitute for ki pulse, the game focuses a lot on deflects like Wo Long(but not as extreme)the rock paper scissors style system sucks ass IMO and good fucking luck finding styles for anything that's not 1kat
>>721900896>tfw they included Nioh-ryu and it comes with 3 of its own classic Nioh katana stances and they are all good
>>721900552>but "taking a shit" is a bit hyperbolicNioh 2 fags need to be slapped around for being so insufferable all those years. Nioh 1 and Nioh 3 chads will teach them how to behave and give them a taste of their own medicine.
>>721900896>>721900974>>721901008Might pick it up on sale. Thanks for the explanation, guys.
>>721901017Yeah that blew me away. 3 stances in 1 and it all just somehow works and feels good. Only thing I didn't like was killing william in some fishy ass cave unceremoniously. They did him dirty
>>721901137>some fishy ass caveIt's the cave from the first mission of the original nioh where you find the harakiri blade. And it's fine, if he's alive 200 years later it means he's immortal, he will literally walk it off.
Thread I am delighted to inform you all that as of midnight tonight I am now 30 years old
I hope we get a proper ninja gaiden X nioh collab this time
>>721901224>immortalCan't wait for his appearance in ng4
>>721901230rip unc
>>721901230Happy birthday bro
>>721901230Congrats, Anon. While I lament a lot of the physical ailments that come with age, I can honestly say my 30s (I'm 33) have so far surpassed my 20s. I wish you the same.
>>721901075>>721900227>>721899487This person single handedly makes the case for a function for blocking/muting posters on this website. Actual untreated schizophrenia on full display in every Ninja Gaiden and Nioh thread.
>>721900953>How's that for reduced RPG elements fucking retard.Nioh 3 has less attributes than Nioh 2.Nioh 3 has less status ailments than Nioh 2.Developers confirmed that you can beat the entire game as pure Samurai and/or pure Ninja, Style Switching is optional.The only fucking retard here is you, open that mouth Nioh 2 subhuman, Team Ninja is taking a massive shit in your mouth.
>>721901137I like to think it is just an imposter. Although, it has a cool detail of that cave's location being the same cave from the first stage of Nioh 1 or so I believe.
>>721901230Happy Birthday anon. >>721901358Are all nioh enjoyed 30+, I'll be 30 in 2 years
>>721901287>Hide as a NG4 superboss>he has all Otakemaru moves
>>721901230i'll have a drink for you later
>>721901398Nioh 1 hooked me long before I turned 30, so I wouldn't say it's an age thing. However, a younger poster might put more weight on the Souls similarities than need be.
>>721901383I have bought Nioh and Nioh 2 twice each on PS4 and PC, beaten them on every NG cycle, played the Nioh 3 alpha, beaten Ninja Gaiden 1, 2 and 3 on their highest difficulties. I love them all. You have likely never completed any of these games and I doubt you have even played most of them. Everything I say about these games is more informed and accurate than whatever you have to say. And I declare that everything you say is wrong and you need to get the fuck out of this thread.
>>721891452find niohs combat badyou just got shit tastebuy the dlc get some fists and combo like a crackhead
>>721901618Ng4/nioh 3 have me contemplating pre ordering first time in my life
you know when I think about it I think it's crazy that it took this long for toxic ninja gaiden schizos to break into the Nioh discoursethese are the same guys who can't agree any of the Ninja Gaiden games are good so I don't think anyone should take anything they say seriously when it related to any other series in the comparison between its own entries.
>>721891452It's actually a game about applying as many buffs/debuffs as possible in as short a time as possible to nuke bosses. The combos are just kind of there to look cool once you unlock all of them.
>>721899047>ki pulses>uses soul cores to cancel recovery animations>uses ninja / onmyo tools>often switches stances that fit the situationgrats stream anon even though you die a lot to Fuki you're already better than most anons posting itt
>>721901869Thanks anon, it's 12:30am here so I've stopped but it was funI think I will go all in on axe
Nioh 2 just has no soul, I don't feel anything playing this game. The world is bland the music is shit the feedback is whateverThe game could be set in a giant white world full of combat rooms and it'd lose nothing
>>721901230Which element did you spec into for your tier-1 spells?
>>721902039Nah, it has soul out the ears
>>721902094>turn 30 >expect to receive my wizard powers any second now>a wizard appears in my room>holy shit it's happening>he tells me i'm not receiving any powers>i had sex one time 13 years agoNOOOOOO
>>721901820I like all NG and Nioh games that I've playedbut I hate Wo Long
>>721891452The combat being good in Nioh and its clones (Rise of the Ronin, Stranger of Paradise, Wo Long) is a total meme and a lie. It's just roll and parry slop, nothing like NG. No, it doesn't get better.
>>721901618I don't care about your lifestory faggot.You were wrong. I showed you how you were wrong, instead of accepting it and thanking me for enlightening you, you lash out like this. You are emotional, stupid and a loser.>Everything I say about these games is more informed and accurate than whatever you have to sayNope, you were wrong about Nioh 3, here read again:>How's that for reduced RPG elements fucking retard.Nioh 3 has less attributes than Nioh 2.Nioh 3 has less status ailments than Nioh 2.Developers confirmed that you can beat the entire game as pure Samurai and/or pure Ninja, Style Switching is optional.
>>721891452I think Nioh is a very misunderstood series. People complain about something without realizing its their fault for playing that way when the game offers so many ways to enjoy it. So yeah, skill issue
>>721901820I've noticed that the amount of mentally ill retards in Nioh threads grows as we're getting closer to NG4, i assume it's some unmedicated schizoid from NG fanbase desperately samefagging because he wants attention. And that's a bloody shame because NG4 looks fun too.
>>721902039Nioh 2 is literally one of the most SOULFUL games ever, let alone modern gamesOff the top of my head, non-exhaustive list of SOVLFVL things:>fully free character changing including gender. you'd think it wouldn't be a big deal but crapcum is charging actual money for the privilege>the hut and associated customisation>clan system>tea system>if you transmog as toyo and do the mission to rescue her father then the father has unique dialogue>scampuss>the absurd level of detail and history in both the armour pieces and level design>the fun emote system>the emote system being used with nurikabe>having unique emotes for yokai form>customisable yokai form>free transmog on all weaponsNioh 2 is so SOVLFVL it's unreal
>>721901618>I love them all.3RE baby spotted. You will always be a secondary.>>721901713Another 3RE baby spotted.
>>721902334It's fun in its own way but I agree that it has nothing to do with NG. TN didn't even bother to make NG4. It's a platinum franchise now. Crapcum should contract Plat to make DMC6 too, that shit would be funny.
>>721902039>the music is shitobjectively incorrect
>enjoying a game means you're a secondary babbyThe mind of the Itagakifag is strange indeed
>>721902443a game should force you to engage with its systems. twilight princess has tons of combat abilities you can unlock and has the most intricate combat of any zelda game, but you can beat the whole game just by using the basic waggle attack. as such, twilight princess is a game with shit combat.
>>721902564Please stop pretending that ki charging is hard. It makes you look bad.
>>721902494I'm a big fan of both but I see what you mean. Might just take a break from 4chan for a while since these threads are the only ones I look for
>>721902623It's not 'the' Itagaki fag, it's some YouTube tard.
>>721902683Do it anon, lately I've been actually playing games instead of posting here for 4 hours, and what do you know, I'm enjoying my time after work much more and magically enjoy games more
>>721902039https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1VaHo4dnngyou are flat out wrong
Snek yokai has impregnation art btw
>>721902502I love how the enemy roster is just obscure jap mythology>haunted umbrella>a haunted wagon lmaoDesigns are so retarded and over the top, I love it
>>721902564>intentionally plays as poorly as possible to demonstrate how a certain playstyle is unviable>still winsholy shit what an own goal
>>721902576God, I hope 4 is good. But I've never particularly enjoyed any of Platinum's games besides Metal Gear Rising, so I'm bracing for it to be 3 hours long and garbage.
>>721902741Surely this was everyone's most heard song right?https://youtu.be/VW2xvVZ9Pzk
>>721902572>its the mentally ill retard in his 30s againGenuinely log off and see a psychiatrist
>>721899235I think it'll still be decent but it's clear TN don't really have the chops to make anything truly great without yasuda directing
STOP PARALYZING ME YOU STUPID FAGGOT
>>721902740Yeah you're right. Speak of the devil >>721902572
>>721902494These threads have been mentally ill since WLs terrible launch, anyone with a brain left for other nioh communities
>>721902758Drop a link so I can block it and avoid it
I absolutely loathe the equipment systemFucking Korea hns shit+8% poison damage +2.87% plunge attack damage -5% run speedHoly trash
>>721902875>paralyzes you and then one shots you by sticking his finger in your assWhat did the devs genuinely mean by this?
>>721902986NoAlso I will draw lewds of the new mermaid yokai in nioh 3 so you WILL suffer by my hand
>>721903019The series has the most dogshit affixes in the genre, idk why they refuse to actually put any effort into it
>>721902842I'll be here well into my 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s etc.I will always expose 3RE babies, I will not allow you to rewrite history and gaslight the fanbase.>see a psychiatristNope, they are satanic.
>>721903057Haha oh no don't do it and post it here
>>721903098Boy I say boy what in the Sam Hill are you talking about
>>721903019Then don't engage with it? You can beat these games based on pure action alone.
>>721903098Really enjoying this aging mentally ill reclusive gamer gimmick, keep it up.
>>721902502There's also tons of soul in every single npc revenant and I forget whatever the blue ally revenants are called. Often through history detail (such as the character name and the stage location they're in) or secret interactions. I think one even has secret dialogue.The few side-missions with secret alternate ways to clear them stand out to me, too. >mission where you have to pick to side with the yokai or humans or neither and go against both.>demon hunter clan member one where you can use an emote to the npc and skip fighting him to end the mission.>yokai bird momma mission where you can optionally bring her her son Lost Shotaro which is just a half-scaled male character ally revenantIt's packed to the brim.
how in the SHIT do I use Kusarigama?
>>721903451blade spin and reaper. very poorly designed weapon.
>>721902502>>721903321>yokai language audio dialog that slowly gets deciphered over the course of the game when you pick up soul cores>attacking sodama 3 times in a row pisses them off and they attack you before fucking off>sodama in general want specific items like candles and shit >speaking of shit, can feed that one human soldier in a cave shit early on, no idea why
Tonight I play nioh 2 with my friendTomorrow I will draw a pregnant Nure-Onna
>>721903098 Based unwavering schizo resistance. You’re like some cursed guardian spirit of the franchise, doomed to haunt every thread and remind the zoomers of the dark times before 3RE gaslit the mainstream into thinking it's "deeper" than it was. You might be insane but at least you remember.
>>721903506>drop a certain item in front of sodama>he lightning strikes mewtf
>actual yokai in the threadPISSETH OFF
>>721903451Spam the high stance heavy attack and walk away
Anyone remembers or has the source when devs said they were considering a sci fi setting for Nioh 3? I think it was around the release of Nioh 2. I was just thinking, since 3 is an isekai, maybe we'll go to the future in one of the DLCs? But apparently there will only be 2 DLCs this time so, who knows.
>>721903629>subtitles are in yokainiggerish
>>721903053It's a real Japanese legend about them
>>721903665>neotokyo nioh with cyberdemonsSo we go full circle to NG huh
>>721903665I already talked about this. There will be a dlc set in ng4, meanwhile ng4 will have the same dlc from different pov. It will be kino.
>>721902413>you can beat the entire game as pure Samurai and/or pure Ninja, Style Switching is optional.I'm sure this came as a relief to you, thick as shit motherfucker can't handle any level of complexity, even though Nioh 3 is clearly a more complicated game to Nioh 2. By the way, Nioh 3 has directional input attacks, try not to piss yourself out of fear.
>>721903736What the fuck, you're right.
>>721903840Apparently it's because your soul is stored in your anus
>>721903098Not only filtered, but filtered and proud
>>721902875
>>721903840Yeah there's something about the soul being in your ass, that's why the headless in sekiro do it too
>>721903869>>721903915I can't with these japs
>>721903560I won't have to do it for much longer. 3RE doesn't have legs to stand on, it is championed by newcomers because it was their first experience with the franchise AND (this one is very important) because it is the "newest" Ninja Gaiden game. Once Ninja Gaiden 4 is out, 3RE will lose this aspect of its appeal and you will see a significant drop in the posts from proponents if 3RE. They will have moved on to championing NG4, which looks like a much better game already.Ninja Gaiden Black and Ninja Gaiden II will remain strong, because those games can stand on their own unique merits. 3RE can't.
>nioh 2 thread>guy going off about a random game that has nothing to do with anything
>>721900506We better get more than one hot female yokai boss or I will riot. I won't even be mad if they reuse my wife Kasha or Tate Eboshi as crucible bosseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KvDegUKgRw
>>7219038783RE is easy and boring.
>>721904026We already saw another qt big tit yokai in new trailer >>721900357. Hopefully full game will have even more yokai like this
>>721904005At the risk of giving this stupid faggot attention, he literally isn't Eves wife because he doesn't play the game
>>721904106TN know what the people want
>>721904062But enough about ng2
>>721903840>>721903869>>721903958>The shirikodama is located in the anus in Japanese folklore because of the appearance of drowning victims, whose anuses would appear distended as if something had been forcibly extracted, leading to the myth of a soul-containing "butt ball" that the kappa, a river demon, could steal to gain power. The word itself, shirikodama, literally translates to "buttocks-wee-ball" or "anus-small-ball".
>look up axe tips>dude just face tank wild spinner lmaoGod damn it it's up to me to elevate axe
>>721891452YesEventually you become Neo and bosses can't even touch youIt didn't click for me until about halfway through Way of the Strong
>>721902813My main issue is some of the transitions between animations are ugly. What made TN so good is that they were also developing fighting games so they had top notch resources to draw from to make everything in NG look fluid. That attention to detail was a sign of how much care was put into he combat, even if most of the time you would use a small handful of moves to survive. I'm really curious what Platinum preserved from NG in terms of encounter design. Forward Y on talons into OTs into UT chains was a fun design because on paper it sounds easy to execute but it takes tons of practice to not get constantly raped trying to do it.
>>721903967NG3 RE core gameplay is better than 1 and 2, but its pretty much shittier in every other department
>Armor has unique effect that seems good at first glance but is actually dogshitAt least it looks good
>>721903798>even though Nioh 3 is clearly a more complicated game to Nioh 2It is, because it has superior action elements and reduced RPG elements. You are proving my point.>By the way, Nioh 3 has directional input attacks, try not to piss yourself out of fear.I'm all in favor of this, add more action elements, reduce the cancer RPG elements.Nioh 3 is already the best Nioh game because of this. More Ninja Gaiden, less RPG nonsense, I love it.
WHERE ARE THE ONMYO PITS
>>721894847>Pick Odachi>Equip Moonlight Snow Redux>Press triangle forever
How else did you think this armor set is made
>>721904486NYOOOOO
>>721904319The ability to jump and do all kinds of cool ninja shit looks fun. There's a lot of people maligning ninja form in these threads but I think after the game is for a while and people have more time with it it's going to be one of the best changes in the game.
>>721904287>NG3 RE core gameplay is better than 1 and 2It isn't. The only thing 3RE does better is smoother controlling of Ryu. Gameplay also includes your interaction with enemies, which 3RE fails at. Enemy design of NGB and NGII are superior and allow much better interplay between Ryu and the enemies.NG3 and NG3:RE need to completely declared non-canon and a REMAKE of NG3 should be made, with the same combat design, just better enemy and boss design and a completely new story.
>>721904518I just wanna know if there's ninja 1kat mode
>>721904486delete this
>>721904287What core gameplay do you mean? There's a lot to debate just in that shirt statement alone.
>>721904629Reverse grip katana, yes
>>721904486repost this
>>721904606>Enemy design of NGB and NGII are superiorMaybe ngb but not 2
>>721904518Fun fantasy but it's gonna be the opposite, shockingly people actually like stance dancing in nioh
>>721904518They are the Nioh 2 subhumans, they are rightfully scared and mad, because Ninja Style is superior to Samurai Style and it will overshadow Samurai Style. Nioh 2 subhumans wanted Nioh 3 to be Nioh 2 again, but Nioh 3 instead is replacing them and they can't take it.Pre-ordering Ninja Gaiden 4 Deluxe Edition and Nioh 3 Digital Deluxe Edition is the best 210 euros I've spend on games in a very long time. I can't wait.
>>721904731Gikei-Ryu and Mugai-Ryu in rotr gave me an itch for that shit and now it shall be scratched
>>721904805Ninja was worse than samurai in the alpha though, doubt it'll change in the main game
>>721904867>the skill where you just drop a bunch of shit post papers on the ground as a parryGotta be my favourite skill in the game since you can do it on bullets and teleport across the map
>>721904916You suck at playing it. Not my problem.
I really wanted to make Luminous Blade talismans work as a build core but it's just so dogshit
>>721904805Exactly, it's going to be overtuned. TN put it in the game because they ran out of stuff they wanted to do with the established combat.
>muh samurai vs ninja dichotomy in Nioh 3Kukuku, you still dont get it, do you? Enjoy your shitposting, I'll be too busy roleplaying as shogun-sama once the game releases
>>721904961It's even wilder than that. It teleports you to whoever you lock on, so you can parry someone else's attack and teleport to an annoying gunner for example.
>>721891452It's a soulslike. It's nothing like Ninja Gaiden.
>>721906180Careful, Niohfags don't like hearing that.
>>721904062Post your ultimate ninja clear then. Or let me guess, you were "too bored" to complete it
Can you fuck the yokai this time?
>>721893634How is Nioh 3 returning to 1? It's just adding more bloat on top of 2 and still using most of 2's systems like burst counters.
>>721906550>How is Nioh 3 returning to 1?Living artifact.
>>721891452I'm 90 hours into Nioh 2. Finished the Cherry Blossom story quest, so I think I'm almost done the main story. It's fun. I think I enjoyed Nioh 1 more though
>>721905072It's definitely possible, I would just put protection and steel talisman on to make sure you can tank stuff because you'll be exposing yourself a lot every time you attack. I use luminous blade a lot against boss fights that are very mobile and hard to lock down/punish but still have lots of health, e.g. Yoshitsune.
>>721906686>I think I enjoyed Nioh 1 more thoughNioh 1 is the superior game.
>>721899085It's exactly the same shit. Camps where all enemies respawn. Estus flask quivalent that renews when you rest. level ups with 1 skill point. Drop your souls on death and run back sucessfully or lose them. Status effects that build up over time and apply when the meter hits 100%. Attacks blocks and dodging consumes stamina. Yeah, it's got a pokemon summon or a DMC style devil trigger on depending on the game, and it's got 3 stances per weapon, but so fucking what. Doesn't change what it is, only adds an additional layer.
>>721906661I'm really curious to hear what the justification is for someone to hate yokai shift but like living weapon. I think living weapon is a bit cooler aesthetically, but it's pretty boring gameplay wise compared to yokai shift.
>>721903840Oh I thought they were just doing Kancho
Sex with mama
>>721906858I like having a Bankai form. Living artifact has superior moveset compared to living weapons of Nioh 1.Yokai shift is just edgy teenager tier garbage.
>>721906858I get what you mean with lw being an "I win" button but how is YS more engaging. Pretty much just devolved into yokai ability spam from what I remember
>>721907178>Yokai shift is just edgy teenager tier garbage.This is a problem with your brain and not the game desu
>>721907198Just has a lot more moves really. It feels like it adds variety to the combat and turns the player into something else entirely, rather than condensing it down to mashing light attack with living weapon. But for the average player I agree it does devolve into "hit a few times then throw out yokai abilities on repeat".
>>721906342this is important
Babymaking sex with yokai womenRaising a happy family with shiftling babies
>>721902786Gift me a pre-order
>>721907758this anon gets it
>>721891452Nioh 1 is one of the fastest if not the fastest action game period when you stack 700% conditional movement speed and utilize evasion cancels to shorten you stance skills recovery and chain light stance evades. Nioh 2 is much slower but still pretty quick. If you don't have the technical skill to play the game then yea its going to feel 'meh'.
>>721907972Face sitting but my face and skull get crushed into several dozen pieces under eboshis weight
>>721907972Why do all yokai women have their fat saggers hanging out like that?Its like theyre begging to get milked
>>721908154ALL yokai women? I don't believe you, I'll need photographic evidence to be convinced.
Always ignore the schizo trying to use Nioh 1 as a wedge purely because he's butthurt people said his character is ugly.>>721903451Kusarigama is about keeping momentum through attack choice. Pay attention to range and use appropriate attacks to cover for your startup or recovery, the pull attacks particularly open up a lot of your offense and punishes since you can close distance and attack quickly after them. >>721905072Luminous Talismans are great, just because you can't instantly kill bosses only by using them (even though they're still strong and I bet they can still lead to stupid damage) doesn't mean they're not powerful. Like all items your Ki recovers during use which makes them excellent at keeping pressure similar to Yokai Skills without costing any Anima, but you can also dodge cancel them if you need to.
>>721903451High stance chain pull into leg sweep will smoothly combo into a guaranteed knockdown and will delete human enemies.
i always bounce off of nioh for whatever reason but i was wondering if you guys liked stranger of paradise
>>721909357Yeah, I love it.
>>721909357Yes, SoP was awesome and it's my next favorite modern TN action RPG after the Nioh games. I loved the job system and set building in the game, it's definitely their best execution of the "RPG" side of "action RPG". The action was good as well and they did a good job of making each weapon type feel unique.
>>721909357Literally the best protagonist in games, period.He perfectly resonates with the unironic gamer
>>721909357>but i was wondering if you guys liked stranger of paradiseNope, I hate it.I will only buy Team Ninja games that are Nioh or Ninja Gaiden.I pirated Stranger of Paradise, Wo Long and Rise of the Ronin, all 3 are absolute garbage and inferior to Nioh games.
>>721910657Shit taste desu, sop is great
>>721910708I'm not into Final Faggotry setting, get over it.
>>721910793Neither am I, worst part of a great game
>>721910793>I'm not into Final Faggotry settingNeither is Jack.
I'd like to see a second ninjutsu palette for ninja mode in 3. I would tie it to each weapon so that when you swap to your second weapon, it switches to a second set of ninjutsu. I kind of also want to see unique weapon-specific ninjutsu that sort of function like martial arts and are only usable by the indicated weapon type. Like in the skill customization menu, each weapon should have their own three ninjustu they can set specifically for that type only.
>>721911732>I kind of also want to see unique weapon-specific ninjutsu that sort of function like martial arts and are only usable by the indicated weapon typeGo play that dogshit game Wo Long and stay there.
>>721909357straight up superior to nioh. godlike meter system and great defensive mechanics
>>721911732They don't have to go that far to add more Ninjutsu options, there's still several inputs left on the table for them to use without requiring it be tied to weapon. It is true though that more than 3 Ninjutsu is severely needed. Weapon-specific Ninjutsu would be stupid and pointless though, Martial Arts exist and a main point of having Ninja style weapons is for them to have more ninja-esque attacks as part of the weapon movelist.
>>721911732>I'd like to see a second ninjutsu palette for ninja mode in 3That's a given, wo long gave 4 more spell slots and 3 more martial art slots, probably not on release but with DLCs though.
>>721912115I don't know what caused that response. >>721912442I just think of the ninjutsu like stances sort of. You switch weapons so you switch ninjutsu as well, it would seem intuitive to me. You're right that it could be done separately as well though. As for unique weapon specific ninjutsu, I think it would just be a cool way to incorporate ninjutsu into specific weapon animations. Like maybe you've got a unique talon attack where you slash them a few times then stab with an exploding kunai or something. That sort of thing, just attacks that combine weapon attacks with ninja stuff like bombs, ninpo, or whatever.
>>721891452No, it doesn’t get better.
>>721909357It's my second favourite action game of all time - great cast, OST, story, shitton of depth and variety with the job system and lunatic + haste is retarded.
>>721912985Ninjutsu may use the same inputs but that doesn't mean it has to be held to all the same rules, that's another part of what makes Ninja style distinct and interesting. Those weapon specific examples and anything similar can be done naturally with the mechanics at hand which makes it more fluid, variable and satisfying, moreso now that Mist is instantly cancellable by Ninjutsu. It's better off that way and anything else is also covered naturally with Transformed Arts and the moveset in general.
>>721913801The affinity system is incredibly well done. Just a smorgasbord of set bonuses that legit synergise well with jobs. The game being a spectrum going from engaging with nail biting action to just one shotting bosses over 100s of hours is just peak.
>>721914117Giving it a second set of three ninjutsu wouldn't make it any less distinct or interesting though. I'm not sure I understand why you're against my weapon specific ninjutsu idea, I'm just talking about cool new attacks that couldn't be done with the mechanics at hand. My idea would really need a second set of three to work right though.
>>721914142I actually don't build myself up for 1 shots. I only marginally upgraded my gear and damage every 50 Rift floors and stopped around 200~ ish
>>721914572That's because you didn't actually read my posts.
>>721915472I read it but I don't think you understood my idea right. Here's another idea though. Instead of weapon specific ninjutsu, another idea could just be ninjutsu that function uniquely when used with certain weapon types. Like maybe when you use caltrops with hatchets equipped, you automatically throw the weapon while dodging backwards and simultaneously throwing the caltrops out. This would give you spacing to zone the enemy while also slowing their advance with the caltrops. Like hidden extras, not every weapon would have a unique interaction just certain weapons with certain ninjutsu.
>>721903967>Once Ninja Gaiden 4 is out, 3RE will lose this aspect of its appeal and you will see a significant drop in the posts from proponents if 3RE. They will have moved on to championing NG4, which looks like a much better game already.Holy cope, on the contrary NG4 will solidify 3RE as the last true NG by comparison.
>>721914581I stopped around 100 but had the same feeling. Not a big fan of 1 shot builds since the combat for all the weapons is so fun and distinct I want to experience all of it. My biggest complaint is probably that changing builds involves a lot of grinding jobs you might have neglected to level them in order to even survive at that point in rifts.
>>721914581That's the better way to go about it, the combat and boss design is fantastic and there's more than enough fun interesting build routes to go without needing to go into 1shot territory. You can go all the way to and beyond 300 without it and it lets the mechanics actually shine.
>>721915791Anima Shards and Crystals exist entirely for that purpose and even playing normally gives you a lot of EXP as you go up, you never actually have to grind at any moment during the game but even the options where you might want to grind are extremely fast.
>>721915781God, that jogging animation is horrid. Platinum really fell off
>>721916114Iirc I kind of shot past chaos, bahamut straight into rifts after getting gud with greatsword so maybe I was completely under levelled and just lacked crystals
>>721916264>God, that jogging animation is horridThey want the Nioh audience
>>721916801It depends, if you skip through that fast you probably won't have had time to level up or get Dragon Treasures/Crystals but if you used Dragon Trials you get substantially more Treasures you can use to buy them. Once you're in the Rift though things are easier anyway while still giving you more Treasures, and if you were using the Warrior of Light set as you should then there's even less trouble, though that does take some Crystals to level up as well. At any rate, just go to the shop and buy as many as you need or want. As far as survival goes, job level helps but there's several other choices that can be stacked and help even more, Sentinel, 400% Knight, Monk, or Dark Knight and Phoenix blessing to name a few.
I'm so excited for Nioh 3 and NG4They made these games for me.
>>721909357It's nioh 0.5, but Jack alone makes the game super fun and the action is great and at times awesome (though most of the game is kinda braindead and the gear management is a way way way worse than Nioh's)I hope there will be a sequel.
>>721915781Cope. This will be an excellent entry in the series
>>721918462The way eqiupment works and how DLCs are set up as a vertical power level ladder also means after a pretty fun main game you'll either feel weak as shit or completely invincible in 90% of DLC content
>>721891452It's 100% soulslike, NG stuff is merely visual references
I just bought this game how do I beat the monkey
>>721915781>true NG3 is anything but true NG and purposefully so.TN gimped air juggles because it was an easy and strong win condition but in return had to buff the ground game. Their solution was to introduce on demand iframes which killed a core pillar of NG design: commitment.
>>721919207Lmao eat shit
>>721918269No, for me!
>>721891452Nioh combat sucks fundamentally and can't be fixed without massively reqorking how hit reactions work to diversify enemy reaction to being hitThe enemies always remain boring and formulaic to fight and most of the game is always the same human enemies.I have found Nioh 2 even worse than 1, which still had somewhat novel bosses, because every fight is now the sane loop of combos cancelled by yokai skills into yokai burst into whatever high dps ki break abuse, so you are never fighting different enemies but the same reskinned boss alternating the same states and doing basic attack patterns
>>721917357Nioh 3 isn't being made for the Nioh audience
>>721921370Nioh 1 is the superior game.Nioh 2 is overrated.Nioh 3 is superior to both because of Ninja Gaiden elements being injected into it.
>>721921538That is a good thing.
>>721894658making nioh less of an rpg is a bad thing
>>721921886>making nioh less of an rpg is a bad thingNope, it is a very good thing.Nioh 3 will be the best game in the franchise.Nioh 3 > Nioh 1 >>> Nioh 2.
Nioh3 and ng4 gonna flop hard
>>721922079I rarely buy games.Bought both Deluxe Editions, 210 euros total.
>>721891452The game is pretty basic and boring in New Game. Only a few weapons, like Fists have real mechanical depth.The RPG aspects don't really matter until NG+ or NG++.The game never turns into a sandbag juggler if that's what you're looking for.
I redownloaded Nioh on an impulse, been playing around with it. First time in a few years.Going back to these games is ultra jarring because my save is already high level and there's builds and shit, I'm thinking about making a new save, as counterintuitive as that may sound for TN ARPG's.Can you keep your unlocked skins on a new save? I want to do a playthrough as Fuku.It's interesting looking at the game, by the way. It confirms my long-standing notion that Nioh 1 had much clearer graphic quality and asset fidelity than 2, 3 and Ronin. They stopped caring about that stuff going forward.
>>721923936I recently returned to Nioh 1 too, I was enjoying it a lot until I remembered that PC didn't get the 120FPS feature that PS5 Remaster has and I got sad and stopped playing.There is no definitive version of Nioh 1 :(
Are you guys ready to fight his ancestor in Nioh 3?
>>721924408I actually have the remastered collection lying around, but my PS5 doesn't have a disc drive. I'll need to get one if I'm going to get a physical disk of Yotei later.
>>721924540Im ready to travel in time and fight him
>>721897161i saw the switchglaive in a preorder bonus image, so yes, but we dont know whether it's for samurai, ninja or both, but fists are confirmed for both and so is 1kat, so probably both.
>>721924942It's a samurai weapon. It also wouldn't work as a ninja weapon since it's entirely built around each stance physically transforming the weapon.
>>721924540no, but I am ready to fight him>>721925256>it's a samurai weaponsoruce?>It also wouldn't work as a ninja weapon I mean I guess, but it could still work without stance switching
>>721925830The picture of the Digital Deluxe weapons has a colour coding, the Samurai ones look more white/silver while the Ninja ones are darker. Since there's 14 total weapons, 7 per Style and we already know 1kat, 2kat and fists/talons are in both, that leaves 4 style specific ones which you can go through via process of elimination. Besides all that, without the stance switching mechanic it would just be an entirely different weapon.
>>721925830>soruce?The DLC picture featuring all 14 weapons are color coded, 7 weapons are red, the other 7 are steel/grey. One color is for Samurai, the other is for Ninja. Switchglaive is Samurai. Splitstaff and Hatchets went to Ninja.
>>721926636>Splitstaff and Hatchets went to Ninja.Genuinely excited about what they are going to do with a splitstaff. It's a perfect weapon to experiment with aerial combat since its strongest ability was already a jumping combo.
>>721926534Tbh we might get more weapons in dlcs
>>721925830Sam: 1kat, 2kat, fist, axe, spear, odachi, switchglaiveNin: ninja 1kat, ninja 2kat, talons, hatchets, splitstaff, tonfa, kusarigamaThere's pictures of the pre-order weapons and there's also screenshots of the weapon customization screen and it's easy to break it down by process of elimination.
>>721925830We know exactly what weapons are in what style now. Just to list them for anyone else interested:>Samurai1 kat2 katFistsSpearAxeOdachiSwitchglaive>Ninja1 kat2 katFistsKusarigamaTonfaSplitstaffHatchetsSo those last 4 I listed in Ninja have officially lost their previous Nioh 2 movesets. They could come back as Samurai weapons in DLC but I doubt it
>>721927147I think they could squeeze a lot of tonfa/kusa skills in if they really lean into directional inputs
fill in the blanks for me bros. also i just realized the middle one is ninja hatchets
>>721927298The pre order skins for armour and weapons seem so silly when you're cycling through equipment once per mission
>>721927298The double red "??" under axe are hatchets.
>>721927375makes sense when you think of them as skins for transmog, but considering that why the fuck are they all locked? pain in the ass when im starting up a new savefile in nioh 2
>>721927516Digital deluxe should feature a physical scampus plush. I will die on this hill.
>>721927614>Digital deluxe>physicalpick one
>>721927673I want my plush. We've had 3 games come on
>>721897347This shit angers me so much. Lazy as fuck devs still can't come up with something more interesting than pushing buttons it's pathetic.
>>721927084Almost certainly, the only question is how many we'll get, because it might be more than 2 this time due to the existence of Styles and there being 2 DLCs.>>721927298There's a better picture on the website which makes some of them, particularly the splitstaff, clearer. What you have as Odachi is more likely Samurai 1kat, Hatchets are above Fists, and the ? is either Odachi or Tonfa, which leaves one of those two not in the picture but we know both are in the game already.
>>721927614>>721927727it already exists but I dont know if it's official or not, or where to get it
>>721927375You don't need to cycle equipment per mission, and you barely even need to cycle it per region, however they tend to have unique set bonuses/effects and you can forge new ones or refashion any gear as them.
>>721928091Ahhh my white whale
>>721928154In ng I found myself cycling often. Though yeah once you're in strong or beyond you usually have enough gold to make a nice set, effects etc and just level that armour set by soul fusion or whatever the mechanic is called where you consume an item to level another.
I hope they keep the appearance system from ronin in 3. Just picking a look based on what you've found instead of transmogging each piece is so much better.
Any footage of ninja's 1kat moveset?
>>721927920still the best preorder gear
>>721927285Even without the directional inputs, if you adapt the moveset to all the available inputs that have been used so far while also considering aerial options it covers almost everything before taking into account skill choice per slot. So far there's already been a mix of new, old and adjusted skills for the Ninja weapons so I see people being more than happy once they actually get to use them.
Here's roughly how I'd convert hatchets to ninja mode:ground>hold triangle: piercing hurl or dual hurl >hold square: advancing storm or deadly spiral>triangle after square: lethal barrage>R1+circle: boulder breaker or greased lightning>forward+triangle: demon undercut or heavens clash>backwards+triangle: dual hawks or dragonfly>left/right+triangle: probably something new or maybe a reworked spinning crab, I dunno>repeated triangle: new attack string (instead of just the single chop when you decide not to throw it)>triangle after blocking an attack: spiked wall>triangle after throwing an axe: wild surge (or whatever the gap closer was called)>triangle after dodging: biting hail>triangle after enemy blocks you: wolfs rageair>repeated triangle: chain hurl>backwards+triangle: death from above>forwards+triangle: mountain climber>left/right+triangle: I dunno, probably something newI would make "trained throw" built into the weapon by default or just a normal skill that can be acquired earlier instead of the mystic art. The "all ablaze" skill would now be a passive skill as well instead of a manual buff. Maybe landing a throw temporarily gives you a short stack of All Ablaze for increased damage+movement speed. Presumably there would also be new skills so this is just a rough idea and some things could be moved around. The point is that they should be able to fit most of the weapons stuff into one stance without it feeling gimped.
>>721895350those are people who have only played souls as their first arpg and nothing else
>>721927147>KusarigamaCan only be an improvement, this weapon crutched almost entirely on High Stance Quick and Low Stance Heavy if you were being spicy. Mid stance had some wide sweeps but almost strictly worse options than its skills.>TonfaHad some of my favourite animations overall so I will be sad if a lot of these don't return. Mid Stance was strong but was pretty damn boring, High stance had absolutely abysmal tracking so hopefully that will no longer be an issue. Surely we will no longer be limited to Wild Lions.>SplitstaffI'm assuming Shin Crusher will no longer be the most overpowered skill in the game lmao. I actually don't remember the base moveset very well because it had such insane skills (similar to 2Kat) and the extension mechanic felt like the real core of the weapon, presumably it will still have this.>HatchetsNobody cares about these.
>>721929138I weep for these people, for they know not what they have missed. Then I mock them for being retarded when they think they know how to play games because they play Dark Souls.https://youtu.be/xt5yBib9Zas?si=RZ5NUsYGzNW5t6sl
>>721929314I care about hatchets, did you not just read my autistic wall of text?
>>721929526The tonfachad rapes the hatchet player when he talks.
>>721929440Thanks for the video I completely forgot this moment. Risebreak is probably my favourite mh alongside 3u
Favorite guardian spirit?
>>721929657Tonfachads be like>mid light into demon dance into demon dance into demon dance into demon dance>yup, time to post my combo mad video
>>721929440He is a big Nioh fan btw (and also voted republican which killed his streaming career)
hey co op chads, i wanna co op with you*loads up on burning oil jars and yokai incense*
>>721929696>gameplaykurama tengu>visuallyblue dragon>>721930249what difficulty?
>>721929767The flat tengu girl that 2 added. Glad she's coming back for 3.
>>721929696
>>721929696Loli Tengu actually had a bunch of great stats for reducing Ki usage but I really don't like Feral. Masaru's 'Purity on Strong Attack' was actually an insane buff that lets you easily apply confusion really early in the game.Whale had a hilarious skill especially if you took it into co-op.
>>721930385Blue dragon was probably my favorite in 1. The guardian spirit attack deleted horns and was great against namahage since they're taller and harder to hit.
>>721930405my bad, obviously meant for >>721929696
>>721891452When people complain about the combat in a Nioh game, always assume that they're an Odachi user.At least, they're finally making the weapon fun in Nioh 3.
>>721929696Cheap choice but probably genbu
>>721927740Anon?Your kinect?
>>721930460Tengu with the final bosses skill and armor set made for a surprisingly strong sword build. Just don't get hit, going from light armor back to heavy made me appreciate how much DR heavy armor actually gives you compared to light.
>>721929696Its been a while since I played but I recall using the one spirit that gives you stance specific buffs on amrita absorb, then using the onmyo spell which lets you siphon amrita on hit. Very fun
>>721931059Nobunaga's Peacock, also gave a very comfy map buff that showed everything at once.
>>721931274I should go back and replay (I burned out on depths last year) before 3 but I'm knee deep in ninja gaiden in anticipation of 4.Damn it feels good to enjoy TN games
>>721929696Moth pussy. Mothussy, if you will.
>>721929696>gameplayKara-jishi>visualShin-roku
>>721931632Mussy?
>>721929696>Nioh 1Paired Raiken. Decent bonuses for a spirit not named Kato, the most fun looking guardian spirit attack in the entire series.>Nioh 2Baku. Best passive bonuses in the game, absolutely insane corruption + paralysis cloud guardian spirit attack.
>>721899530Those are just "wow" moments. Also Abyss Watchers is overrated af.
>>721899235>I hope they cap it at NG+42 DLCs, so it's gonna stop at NG+3 (if it's how it's gonna work anyway)
I just like the big titty (?) neko spirit, thats why Nioh 2 is better
>>721915781>yellow paint every 5 ftKEK
>>721933005
>>721915781IIRC this mod for re4remake came literally the day after the game came out, so I'm hoping some hero will save from the yellow paint SCP again
>>721891452The biggest mistake team ninja did was making this game too much like diablo, down to coying the fact that the entire base difficulty is one big tutorial. Retards like OP only play through this easy as fuck mode that doesn't really demand skilled play, play it like it's dark souls and get away with it because the enemies are too weak to punish you for it, and then naturally get bored of it.
This shill thread still active?Tn really going all in for the marketing this time it seems
>>721934460Dumb nigger
>>721891452It doesn't get better. It's just, in a word, boring. You just flowchart your dps attacks like a fighting game combo. Nioh 2 is extremely lacking in boss designs and actually interesting boss fights.
>>721897093We need some variant of the "this game is boring / this game is fun" Mario 64 webm but for Nioh.
>>721897823you are playing wrong
>>721898417
>southeast asia wakes up>uptake in shitposts every time
You did get the best garb in the game, right?
bros how do i cope with light armor? i can block sufficiently in heavy armor but my guard breaks instantly with light armor in nioh difficulty.
>>721935894Of course. It's still funny how long it took for them to actually add it as an option, as well as how far into the difficulties they put it.
>>721936113you have like infinite Ki on A agility so just keep spamming dodge
>>721936113Block less since your dodges go further and are cheaper. Block when you have full Ki, which is easier to manage due to your lower Ki costs and faster Ki recovery. Only block attacks with low Break. Make extensive use of the free block you get from a full Ki Pulse in mid stance. Use parries and skills with built in guarding as they generally cannot be guard broken regardless of how much Ki is lost. Use effects and sets that lower the Ki cost of guarding.
>>721909357Total Lufenian DeathKill LufeniansRoundhouse kick LufeniansThrow Lufenian babies into woodchippers
>>721909357I bounced of SoP the first 2 times I tried it, but the third time was in fact the charm. Didn't like it enough to play the DLCs, but I did do all the side missions so that's probably just a case of burn out. Really great game, shame I slept on it for so long.>>721936747god I want bayonet in nioh 3 so bad
>>721901383>Nioh 3 has less attributes than Nioh 2.>Nioh 3 has less status ailments than Nioh 2.Irrelevant, they added skill management system to customize your character even more, and they added a ton of Titles bonus categories compared to the previous games. It's not doing any less.
>>721936113nioh is a dodge centric game tho
>>721897161Why even bother with three?What does it offer that 2 doesn't?>Split gameplay into two modes so you can no longer customize your playstyle the way you want.That's not a feature, that's annoying.
Informationpill me on hatchets and splitstaff
>>721936297Do you have some mods going here or does PC version just naturally look this good?
I love brute burst counter so much bros
>does the combat get better?Nope; nor has it changed since about the 30-minute mark of the first game.So, unless one likes the Souls + DW / musou + Daiblo loot mash-up formula, they will not like anything that the franchise has brought to the table.
>daiblo
>>721893634>Best 120 euros I've ever spend on a Digital Deluxe Edition of a game.Ky[s], industry shill-bot.
>>721938824I don't remember well, I might've had a basic reshade running there, but I don't think so. The lighting in that expansion level was somber and rich in contrast as it is.
I CAN'T FIND A WEAPON THAT CLICKS REEEEEE
>>721938789I can give hatchets info and tips. I recommend Piercing Hurl Light as your high stance throw and also using it with the Trained Throw mystic art. This gives you a damage bonus for releasing throws at the right moment and is something you'll want to learn. As long as you get the correct timing for Piercing Hurl, that's all you really need. It also has the easiest timing so it's not to hard to get used to. Advancing Storm is your "hold square" throw and is very good. It's not strong but it's fast and it keeps you moving so it's very easy to throw out constantly. It's a great way to setup ranged combos because you can ki pulse immediately after it with no delay. So maybe combo a Boulder Breaker after it to help zone yourself and then combo that into Piercing Hurl and then Wild Surge to gap close back in for melee. I like Boulder Breaker a lot because it has huge backwards movement for zoning. You don't need to charge it unless you really have time for it. Lethal Barrage and Dual Hawks are good melee attacks and Deadly Spiral isn't bad either. Deadly Spiral has very high status application as well. Demon Undercut is your ki nuke but it's sort of slow and will take some getting used to. Dragonfly can be used to give yourself that extra second to get away from aggressive human enemies. After you use it, take a step back, then flux into Boulder Breaker to get away. That extra step back is important. Bell Ringer is decent for setting up combos in melee range as well. Light armor and Feral's dodge are good for hatchets since you want mobility. You can use the dodge to help space yourself away.
>>721927727>>721928091They used to sell Scampuss plushes at the Koei Tecmo spot store in Shibuya, but I think that was only a pop up store that closed a year ago. I don't know if they have any other stores.
>>721929696Usura-hicho. I miss her.
>>721941157Holy autism. I really hope you won't be disappointed with whatever they do to Hatchets in 3, anon.
Janomecho wife
>>721942849Well they wanted info. I think I'll be fine with whatever they do in 3, I like other weapons as well.
For me it's axe and odachi, the gorilla combination
spearGODS, what the fuck is the point of this move?
>>721946048to hop over an enemy attack in your combo MAD
>>721946048Quick mobility on demand which can also stagger an enemy and go over some attacks. Repositioning is always very useful for Spear to make use of its range and it doesn't need iframes to avoid attacks easily.
>>721946048anon you wouldnt be trying to take me aboard a rainbow ruse cruise would you
>>721946048Do this with the enki spear for monkey mode
>>721894658>>721895741lore pill me on this
>>721908531>trying to use Nioh 1 as a wedge purely because he's butthurt people said his character is uglyhilarious if true
>>721946048
>>721949334Pic related.
>>721951489sis what are you doing...
>>721891452It's not a soulslike
essential omyo buffs/debuffs in nioh 2? preferably ones that scale into WotNI'm doing a splitstaff run ATM, and I want to make proper use of omyo instead of just spamming elemental pewpews
>>721937345Those are not RPG elements. RPG elements got reduced.
>>721938720That is a good thing. Fuck Nioh 2 RPG elements. Nioh 3 is superior, less RPG and more action is better.
>>721939160The more expensive games become, the better.
>>721954520Have you played either game? Be honest. Not disagreeing, I just really want to know if you are really baiting or not.
>>721954926Yes. Why is it hard to grasp that Nioh 2 is not the end all be all of the Nioh formula? Team Ninja obviously doesn't agree with you Nioh 2 morons, that is why Nioh 3 is such a big departure from Nioh 2. Team Ninja knows that action elements > RPG elements. That is why they are cutting back on the RPG elements and increasing the action elements with Nioh 3.
TEAM NINJA MARKETING THREAD
>>721899487I will never understand the people who shit on Nioh 2 but love Nioh 1 when Nioh 2 is a straight sequel. It just reads like a stupid false flag or shitpost.
>>721891452I suck at stance switching so I went the giga tanky axe build where you can just mindlessly smash into every enemy in the game and it did self healing from the holy magic shitthis was way back on PS4 pre DLC though so i'm assuming balance is different now but back then a good axe build with the right armor set and certain spells just let you go ooga booga throughout the entire game and it was oddly satisfying because you just insta gibbed stam/ki bars nonstop
>>721956605>It just reads like a stupid false flag or shitpostThen you understand.
>>721956605>when Nioh 2 is a straight sequelIt really isn't. If you can't grasp it, no amount of expenation can make you understand it. I am just so glad Nioh 3 will kill Nioh 2 for good.
>>721894847basedfeels awesome
>>721934636You could have just said that you like your character being weak and pathetic (like you), would have saved you some time.
>>721951489lmao I sometimes see that Hide getting posted during peak Nioh 2 threadspretty funny it was that anon
post your hide NOW
>>721956605The people who tend to prefer Nioh 1 over 2 are put in 2 categories>soulstards who can't into mechanics, so they prefer the game with less mechanics>that one autist who finds breaking weakspots to instantly end a fight and spamming that one OP move to be comfy
>>721958141Does my Hide look cool and strong?
>>721958141
Why does Maria look less attractive in Nioh 2?
You all may laugh at me and call me brown skinned, but I'm talking exclusively to the bored Nioh 2 autists here, (with at least 1200 hours played) -Come check out Space Marine 2 operations mode. Your skills are wasted playing whatever porn game or jrpg shit you are currently in
Bump.
>>721961636Who knows.
>nioh 2 thread>actual discussion instead of le souls shitposting (mostly)>find it at 498God damn it
What weapons are returning for nioh 3 anyways? Didn't want to play the beta but am mildly curious now that we have a release date which of the weapons I play made it back.
