Is Switch 2 going to kill off Sony and Microsoft? The Xbox brand basically destroyed itself by having no games, but are we going to see Sony fall off and all games ported to Switch 2 for the next eight years while Sony sells us The Last of Us Remastered number 10?
>Playstation has had no games for 20 years>Xbox has always been complete shit>The WiiU flopped so badly Nintendo had to combine their incredibly successful handheld with their home console to surviveI think all three will die soon leaving only the PC master race just kidding phones will win and kill gaming once and for all.
>>721894486Switch 2 will destroy Nintendo too, there will be shift to mobile and cloud gaming
Nintendo will die before PlayStation as one finale monkey paw against tendies
I think you mean Switch 2 kills Nintendo. They're not pleasing anyone and don't have a backup dedicated handheld like 3DS to save their ass
>>721895884Mobile is tanking and cloud is a non starter.The shift to mobile already happened years ago. We’re past phone games peak. We’re currently watching gachas’s death spiral at the moment.
>>721894486Nintendo didn't have to do anything. Xbox blew its brains out with a shotgun and Playstation is dying from a COPIUM overdose.
>>721894486>but are we going to see Sony fall offThey have already fallen off. PS2 was the last great selling Playstation. They will NEVER hit those numbers again.
>>721894486>Is Switch 2 going to kill off Sony and Microsoft?no.
>>721896883apple is going to start getting more and more market share. Apple devices are way stronger than a switch 2 and so many people already have them in their pocket. Apple doesn't know what the fuck they are doing in the video game market though. They hardware is there and affordable now. Apple is trying.
>>721895009Zoomer
>>721898957Because gaming on a 6 inch touch screen is fucking pointless
>>721894486Xbox could have something if they wouldn't stop cancelling games and shutting down studios.Helldivers managed to get a port and sold better on Xbox than it did on Playstation so there's still an audience there, they just need something to play.
>>721898957Premium-priced games on mobile have been tried many many times. Resident Evil 4 on iPhone failed twice with both versions getting sales somewhere in the low tens of thousands, whereas there's plenty of free-to-play garbage with microtransactions you've never heard of making a billion dollars a year.
No, microsoft is gonna kill itself while sony and nintendo will continue to exist due to having different niches
>>721898957With all the spyware and shit windows 11 has MacOS is suddenly a lot more enticing
>>721894486I think they'll lose several millions of sales. Playstation doesn't have exclusives, Nintendo has third party support. So if they lose 10-20 million in hardware and Nintendo gains around that (also thanks to Xbox and new players) then that's a big problem for Sony. Let's say 10 million hardware lost. It doesn't soundl like a big number but that's accessories, lost game sales that goes to PC or Nintendo, lost PS+ subscribers. That's losing billions and it'd be extremely hard to get them back.
>>721900125>So if they lose 10-20 million in hardware PS5 sales are currently under 40 million behind what PS4 did in lifetime sales.They've still got several years of support before PS6, this years Black Friday and Xmas sales, GTA6 launch and so many other opportunities to sell millions upon millions of consoles.PS5 ending up 20 million short of PS4 sales would effectively mean sales would have to dive off a cliff immediately.
>>721901269Support in games, yeah, support PS5 when they got PS6 coming? Yeah no, not how things work. They can't even make PS5 cheaper so there's no reason to keep it around, they'll shift things over to PS6 ASAP because that's the only way they can "fight" Nintendo/PC in general and it's a losing battle.>PS5 ending up 20 million short of PS4 sales would effectively mean sales would have to dive off a cliff immediately.I'm talking about the PS6 vs PS5. I can't see the Playstation handheld making up the difference in lost sales either. People don't seem to comprehend what third party support does for a console, it was practically the only real reason why Playstation was successful in the first place
>>721894486Switch 2 isn't going to kill shit other than itself. Nintendo are now the first company to put out a $100 game in Pokémon ZA. The fact that Nintendo have priced families and children out of the market is going to bite them really hard. Merging the home console and the budget handheld option was a huge mistake.There's an enormous uptick in interest in retro gaming at the moment and gamers are more value minded than ever. Three of this years GOTY contenders were budget titles and that won't go unnoticed.It's a shame that Xbox's public image never really recovered from the One launch over a decade ago because their eco-system and hardware are probably the most consumer minded of the three main companies. If more people gave it a shot, I think they would like what they have to offer. Moving into PC handhelds is a really smart move for them.Sony just want to make all of their games prestige TV and make all of their games have ridiculously high fidelity to justify getting their high end products but forget to actually make their games fun. Not the worst but they're going to run out of hills to climb pretty soon. Especially since the PS5 was essentially the PS4 Pro Pro.
>>721894486>Is Switch 2 going to kill off Sony and Microsoft?Honestly a home console still has a few good reasons to be bought over a portable console, so I doubt it.If anything a Steam Machine today would be the most likely thing to kill the PS/Xbox.Xbox/PS have pretty much all their exclusives on Steam OS at this point, putting that into a home console box would pretty much kill any reason to buy a PS/Xbox since you would get both their libraries plus the all the PC exclusives the deck supports.
>>721902351If some shit steam console is made it'll sell a few million at most and Playstation loses a few million sales at most. Unless Valve massively invests billions and goes all-in nothing will change.
>>721902707If the rumours about the next Xbox having access to Steam as well as potentially other storefronts and is marketed well, that could be a huge shame up
>>721902942Stores seem to be dropping Xbox altogether, I'd be surprised if we even see their next console or console PC or whatever it is
>>721902942The next Xbox is nothing but a "Xbox Game Ready" badge on existing pre-built PCs from third parties, no different from the Multimedia PCs of the 90's
>>721903047I don't see that being a long term thing. I'm sure that there are people at Microsoft having big talks with retailers as we speak. And if they're not, Microsoft published record profits last year which means it might not make all that much of a difference to them>>721903645Good, desu. Anything that brings power and value back to the consumer is a good thing
>>721904037Xbox didn't even want to do gamepass, Microsoft is tired of losing money and they're not interested in competing anymore. Companies can say a lot of things but it doesn't mean they're gonna do it
>>721899474>MacOS is suddenly a lot more enticingIf you are avoiding apple products at this point, you are a legit sperg. Macos is a pleasure to use. an actual unix system, that is stable for years; one that doesn't spy on you. Apple hardware isn't even expensive anymore. there is no reason. Windows 11 is a fucking nightmare.Apple hardware absolutely demolishes plastic windows junk. I'm still pissed about the $1500 lenovo legion i bought that shit itself in under 3 years with light use. I sold all my xbox and pc shit. I'm primarily gaming on mac now. It's promising. Native mac silicone games are going to keep coming out. I just picked up death stranding directors cut from the app store, on sale for $20. Apple is making an effort, but they are going slow. Bioshock 2 is what i'm playing now, it runs great(aside from getting the dual shock to work)
>>721899283>Premium-priced games on mobile have been tried many many times.yeah, the culture and support isn't there yet for serious gamers. They are trying, but I don't think they are going to really do what they need to. I don't want to play resident evil 4 on my phone. but IOS/Ipados/Macos are all becoming unified now. Apple needs release a controller, and have iphones + ipads able to connect to an external display.
you can't kill the home console market, they need their retard boxes and no amount of work from valve will budge the brand recognition nor are they willing to migrate to a portable consoleif anything nintendo is more likely to go multiplat and chase the bag as wellswitch 2 has nonexistent margins and there's way more money to be made in actually selling games
>>721904719>full on apple shilling>that formatting>"i sold all my xbox and pc shit">"apple isn't even expensive">both using a contoller for a fps and boasing how well a 15 year old game runsit's not even subtle
Sony and Microsoft are doing a good job killing off themselves.
>>721904719>reddit spacinggo back
>>721904719>Apple hardware isn't even expensive anymore.you serious?they charge $2200 for a $600 8tb ssd and $800 for 2tb of mobile storagethey're locked down toys that offer a fraction of the functionality a 5060 laptop has
>>721901269the ps4 still gets supported ps5 wont stop till 2030odd there most likely be a pro+
>>721895009Mobile games aren’t good anymore, like ten years ago maybe there were some ok ones but not now
>>721904719>(aside from getting the dual shock to work)Dualsense just werks with mac os
>>721907183steam is going to extend to mobile via proton soonphones will become the entry point to pc gaming
The three best mobile vidya I’ve ever played were flick kick soccer legends, some horse racing game were you run a stable and breed horses and bet on them, and bitlife. The first two would be better on console with more features and customisations, bitlife is really probably the best mobile game of all time and it is far from perfect
>>721895009fpbp
>>721905047>switch 2 has nonexistent marginson the cheaper japan only model, maybe. they are getting at least $100 for every switch sold overseas lol
>>721907556People aren’t going to have a mouse and keyboard with their phones, or a controller, and phone covers that work as controllers have been tried before and they suck it’s better to get a dedicated handheld device
>>721901910>$100 gameHuh? Like is that adding the dlc with the base game?
>>721907731>phone covers that work as controllers have been tried before and they suckbackbone works fine though
>>721894486Phones won.
>>721907754ZA is 60They've already announced a DLC for 30Getting the Kalos megas requires Switch onlineThey can chop it up all they like, but that they've told you the available stuff up front is roughly 100
>>721908216okay, so why didn't you get mad at every other game selling day 1 paid DLC for the past 15 years?
>>721894486sony have lost the only advantage they still had over nintendo which was their third party catalog, now that games like resident evil get their brand new entry released day 1 on switch 2 playstation has essentially become a completely pointless propositionI still expect snoys to stick with the ecosystem though because they're by far the most faithful fanboys
Roblox
>>721907490>Dualsense just werks with mac osit does but steam + mac os still have all sorts of fucking issues. I had to add bioshock 2 to macos global controller settings to get it to work. It was hard finding that solution. >>721905462they overcharge on storage and Ram, but it subsidizes the base devices which are extreme values. a base mac mini and macbook are great deals and suitable for 90% of users. >>721905462>that offer a fraction of the functionality a 5060 laptop hasplastic power hog shit that that wont last 5 years. And you are stuck with windows hell. Macos is so much nicer and secure than windows. parallels and crossover can run windows shit.
>>721908386When Nintendo got into the DLC game this is something they specifically said they weren't going to do.They're meant to be a company that represents children and families and every decision they've made this year has been against that
>>721905156>it's not even subtlecoping this hard. Apple hardware and software is fucking awesome. Macos has enough games to satisfy my needs. I would buy a playstation if I wanted more. windows is fucking hell now, and I wont suffer it.
>>721908769>securea padded cell is more secure than being outsidedoesn't mean shit when in practice iToys are glorified data entry tools
>>721894486>Is Switch 2 going to kill off Sony and Microsoft?>SonyYes, but Steam Deck 2 will deliver the final blow.>MicrosoftThey're already dead. Next Xbox won't even use Microsoft's own custom AMD APU like previous Xbox, it's going to use AMD's APU that will not only power the next gen Xbox, but Xbox OEM PCs and PC handhelds, and Valve's Steam Deck 2.>The Xbox brand basically destroyed itself by having no games, but are we going to see Sony fall off and all games ported to Switch 2 for the next eight years while Sony sells us The Last of Us Remastered number 10?Most likely
>>721908386I did, you just don't see those posts (I'm lying btw)>>721908576Still too early to say for sure. RE9 day 1 is big but it's still a blip on the radar, literally. Nintendo would need 99% of releases to be day and date because they need to build trust in the system. As long as Sony still gets every single third-party game day 1, nothing is going to change. This isn't going to happen unless Nintendo invests billions into third-parties to kick their ass in gear, but there's no point in Nintendo doing that because they can just invest billions in their own studios. This also includes games like Roblox and gacha games, which probably make up 70%+ of Playstation's PROFIT at this point.The funny part is that the entire console userbase has stagnated (besides gen 7 which had a massive combined userbase of like ~550 million, the combined userbase of consoles has stayed around ~250-300 million), and since JP devs are fucking incompetent when it comes to the big moneymaker (mobile games), these third-party retards like Atlus and Bamco have no choice but to develop for the Switch 2 if they want to sell premium games. You can already see it with Square Enix when the new president was like "what the fuck are you dumb sacks of shit even doing?" It'll be a real slow process though and I don't see these holdouts doing day1 Switch2 releases until the end of its lifespan.
>>721908216I mean all that does it make every other alternative outside of most indie devs look just as bad if not worse with their deluxe editions and shit, especially those that give '3 days early access'.
>>721895884Cloud gaming isn't growing and mobile gaming has already peaked and is now declining. Seems like all of this was nothing more than a trend. Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 are the future of console and PC gaming.
>>721909442steam deck lol
>>721909051What's there to cope about?You on the other hand seem attracted to the most expensive brands available, ready and willing to get the worst for your money.
>>721894486Nah, Microsoft and Sony will destroy themselves.
>>721894486>mfw STILL no call of duty or major xbox like halo 3 on the thingWhat are they wanting for this time nintendo finally has the chance to have actual real third party support & so far it's been nothing but crickets
>>721902351If I just wanted something like an portable media player why not buy pic-related instead?they can play almost everything under the sun in terms of codex can't they,I know MKV files can be a huge hassle with random stutter & lag spikes though
>>721909642Yes>>721909919Switch 2 will get Halo starting with the CE remake.
>>721910404Why bother with a CE remake instead of porting the MCC?
>>721910539MCC is busted and Microsoft wants a new audience. They're done with Xbots completely and only see them as Game Pass zombies not worth their time.
>>721909380>As long as Sony still gets every single third-party game day 1, nothing is going to changeYou're insane bro, when Switch 2 is getting RE9/007 day one everything changes. Even if it's getting GTA 6 late it doesn't matter, it'll get it before PS6 is out. Getting the biggest third party game of all time and thinking nothing changes is crazy
>>721894486>MicrosoftAlready killed itself some time ago, what we're seeing now is the shift to a third-party model. That being said, it's only a matter of time until the Pajeets at Microsoft ruin that business too. We're already seeing signs of that happening with games being canned, new releases flopping and studio shutdowns.>SonyPlayStation will stay around for some time. The performance gap is much smaller now, but the Switch 2 isn't quite where it needs to be to completely invalidate the existence of a dedicated home console. PC also has stopped advancing against consoles thanks to abusive GPU pricing and shit ports, so there's no immediate threat from that side of the industry either.The real question is whether or not Nintendo can keep things going smoothly without feeling the urge to shoot itself in the foot, as they have done so many times before.
>>721910404steamdecks done shit and you think the 2nd shitbox will do anything
>>721911051I will laugh if GTA 6 gets delayed again and then the next time we see it, it's not just on PS5 and Xbox Series but also on Steam and Switch 2 while being verified for Steam Deck 2. It would kill PlayStation so hard while solidifying that Xbox is over.
>>721911629alot of wishing from you and you always being up the switch and steam deck two of the samethings, I am very much sure your a tranny
>>721911546the deck was a small launch you dimwitnot like valve wanted it big either, they needed proton to mature
>>721911535>Already killed itself some time ago, what we're seeing now is the shift to a third-party model. That being said, it's only a matter of time until the Pajeets at Microsoft ruin that business too. We're already seeing signs of that happening with games being canned, new releases flopping and studio shutdowns.That's just a part of the third party process, Microsoft (Sony will be and is kind of doing this already) is downsizing their studios and putting focus on projects that are already guaranteed money. The live service games pay for their singleplayer games.>PlayStation will stay around for some timeThey're making every single decision Microsoft is making and they're cheapening out when it comes to next gen console parts, Its questionable if anyone will be willing to even get the PS6s. Their handheld is also facing both Nintendo and Valve now, Switch 2 at $450, Steam Deck 2 at $500.
>>721911546Yes
>>721912026the deck 2 will also be a small launch you fucking nitwit cause steam users just use a shitbox laptop or a gameing pc why would they downgrade, cause they need to play games on a bus or train?
>>721911858>I am very much sure your a trannyNot at all, also, that's a shit insult when trannies are on everything. How about instead of calling everyone who owns a Switch, Steam Deck, or both, you work with us to remove trannies from gaming completely, but not just gaming, remove them society as a whole. I'm starting to become annoyed that trannies even breath the same air that I do now, they're an abomination that needs to be erased.
>>721912223>valve won't utilise their resources despite their dominant position because vibesi accept your concession
>>721911051it probably wont even get it before the ps6 releases.rockstar is likely to put the pressure on people to get a ps5/xbox hard this time. its literally going to be the biggest and most pushing game ever made when it releases
>>721894486>Is Switch 2 going to kill off Sony and Microsoft?Anon, most stores I've been too have a surplus stock of Switch 2's that aren't being bought , and are being bundled with other stiff for a discount. Retailel stores buy them,but the consumers are rather slow on the uptake.
>>721911535>in the footDid ya miss the last direct anon......
>>721911629They're making the RDR2 port to Switch 2 not just because it's smart and it'll make money but to speed up the GTA 6 port but that will still take time, like 12 months probably. GTA 6 is huge game.>>721912414No way it isn't out before PS62026 GTA 6 release2027 Switch 2 GTA 6 portLate 2027 PS6 launch
>>721912459All the manchildren who wanted a S2 got one already, now its going to take a sharp nosedive to failure.
>>721912332steam has more trans then anything and you guys use discord the home of grooming, I know you steamies and I stay the fuck away from you lot
>>721912603PC probably wont even get it until at least 2 years later, same goes for switch most likely.GTA V was 2 years to hit PC, most likely will be at least that or longer this time.
>>721912414Xbox is dead, fuck off, no one will get it, and Microsoft will make sure of that. Sony will raise the price of the PS5 consoles again. Everyone will pressure Take-Two to price GTA 6 at $100, which will also make it sell less.
>>721912374yeah and when the deck2 does like deck1 you be like the the 3rd one will crack the market
>>721912738So sony is going to have GTA 6 as an exclusive pretty much.Thats grim for tendies. Considering GTA v led to the death of the Nintendo that released near it
>>721912603It's pretty much over for Snoys and Xbots, they're on their last cope, and this is it. Take-Two is probably seeing the writing on the wall for both PlayStation and Xbox, and the massive growth of Switch and Steam, not even they can deny that money. The window to boost PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series sales have past and Microsoft wants their home consoles pulled from retailers, it's over. Hope that normalfag arguing in favor of Xbox and especially PlayStation gets that.
>>721912727Switch 2 will get 35-60 million users in no time and then go on to outsell PS5, GTA 6 will be there as early as they can with a smooth launch. The earlier T2 can get it to Nintendo, the more it will sell and they know that. I think PC will get it last as usual but I don't think that's a bad thing, they'll get the best version ultimately if they wait.
>>721894486Sony and Microsoft will have to learn the hard way that games as a service and subscription netflix like models are not profitable and when they're almost completely ruined they will go back to tradition and maybe people will give them a second chance. Meanwhile Nintendo will just keep dominating.
>>721912738>>721912928and anyway xbox users are so used to I wait for gamepass will just wait for it
Videogames are dead.
>>721912928>So sony is going to have GTA 6 as an exclusiveThat depends on if it doesn't get delayed again which it probably will.
>>721895009>just kidding phones will win and kill gaming once and for all.This was a threat in 2012 anon, it didn't happen, it will never happen.
If anyone noticed a PC tgs game show is on atm and its shown nothing but shit
>>721913050The switch 2 is about to take a big nosedive into irrelevancy. The S2 is like the next Wii u it seems. GTA launching near a nintendo? See ya later.>>721913082it would still only launch on PS5/Xbox. Also Xbox might not even be sold in stores anymore here soon enough
What’s your favorite console generation and why?
>>721913259The switch 2 is 2 generations behind in terms of power thoughNot what youd call next gen.Its just now not even catching up to the PS5 in third party support
>>721898775There's just something so weird about PlayStation, like they intentionally removed the soul out of it.I remember playing FFX on the PS2 and having the time of my life, I can still go back to it and enjoy it immensely.Then I'm playing FFXVI on the PS5, it feels like a cheap copy of it, like it has nothing to do with FF or the old Sony, there's just something very wrong about all of it. I have the PlayStation, a game in the disc that says Final Fantasy, but it feels completely soulless. This is the same for all franchises that were once great in the old days. The PS5 is now for Fortnite, FIFA, and whatever other zoomer crap, that's entirely how it feels like.
>>721913432Then why is it running RE9 without issues?
>>721912783deck has already spawned a market and has resulted in multiple companies copying it all in spite of how niche it was you moronvalve can easily put it on the shelves and put up ads for it
>>721913541Its running RE9 like how a PS4 will.Very behind. And it costs as much as a PS5 that can actually play games at 120fps.If the S2 is going to be this third party machine, you better be running games better than a 12 year old console
>>721911051Yeah, it's literally not enough to reduce Playstation's installbase to Xbox numbers. Until Nintendo gets the majority of third-party games day 1, Playstation consoles will still sell. It's still too early to tell how well support will be, but third-party support is still just "decent" and obviously better than the Wii U and Switch 1 but that's a given. Also, I'd wait until the RDR2/GTAV port is officially out (if it even comes out this year) before saying anything about Rockstar's support.
>>721913052I can guarantee that Sony and Microsoft will be pushing hard with live service and singleplayers. This is up Microsoft's ally, Sony, not so much. Both blew too much money on gaming. Nintendo did right with DS, Wii, 3DS, Wii U, and Switch. It's what kept them going. Sony and Microsoft screwed up going for power during the 7th generation and now high-end gaming is crashing for it.
>>721913482That's partly because the original developers either retired or never moved past the PS2 anonWhat you have now are guys making games not because they are fun to actually pick up & play but because they want to be the next blockbuster "film" instead of video game,they see the old stuff as beneath them
>>721913209>The switch 2 is about to take a big nosedive into irrelevancylol>it would still only launch on PS5/Xboxlmao
>>721912547Stop pretending to be outraged. The average consumer either doesn't care or doesn't even know this was announced. A handful of people will buy while everyone else ignores it, that's it.
>>721913701It gets worse, Valve doesn't even sell these in stores, ASUS's and Microsoft's ROG Xbox Allys are being sold in stores yet the Steam Deck, only being sold on the Steam Store, is still outselling the ROG Xbox Ally with a lower price point. Valve could sell the Steam Deck 2 on their store only again and still own the PC handheld market, lol. God, Microsoft is such a failure, kek.
>>721913882The S2 is becoming like Nintendos PS5. Theyre trying to push third party stuff now over exclusives. And its worse in every regard compared to PS5 on that front.
>>721914228delusional
>>721913052Consoles are dying. The Video Game Console market is shrinking, getting older and getting more affluent.>US households with a $100,000+ income now make up 43% of video game hardware sales, a rise from 36% just a few years ago.>18 – 24-year-olds only accounted for 3% of video game hardware purchases in the year ending July 2025, which is down from 10% for the same period ending July 2022. >The average age of console players in 2024 was 27.9 years old. That’s up from 24.2 years old in 2018.>Consoles are generating significantly more revenue than ever before.>PS5 unit sales is currently tracking slightly behind PS4, while Xbox Series S and X significantly lag Xbox One.>Last year in the US, 12 million console units were sold, the lowest figure in eight years>by the end of 2025, the number of active devices for the PS5/Xbox Series generation will be 14 million behind what the PS4/Xbox One achieved during the same point in their lifecycle. The company estimates that gap will widen to 20 million by the end of 2026.Why is this happening?>The cost of consoles are continuing to rise during a time when families are growing concerned about food prices and tariffs.>Consoles are not the entry-level game devices anymore, with tablets and smartphones becoming the typical ‘starter’ device for younger games. This poses a challenge for console makers on how to ‘upgrade’ customers from those devices to dedicated games machines.>And with the rising cost of game development, we’re witnessing a drop in exclusives and an increased multiplatform focus from publishers. Even Xbox and PlayStation are releasing games on other devices (including PC). This potentially weakens the appeal of these machines.https://archive.is/mkTWV
>>721914268Its just the way it is. All consoles are headed that way
>>721913735>Until Nintendo gets the majority of third-party games day 1It's the biggest games that have the most pull, some random indie game that's exclusive to PS5 only might sell like 1 PS5 lifetime, Switch 2 is indirectly stealing Playstation sales on a permanent basis. Why? It's out first and it has the 2 year old, it's a big advantage. >I'd wait until the RDR2/GTAV port is officially out (if it even comes out this year) before saying anything about Rockstar's supportGTA 6 will come to Switch 2 before GTA 5, there's been no rumors on GTA 5 so I doubt it's coming any time soon. The fact I'm still seeing people saying shit like "I'd buy a Switch 2 because of RDR2" shows how dire the situation is for Playstation. Rarely have I seen that and it's just one of the games coming.
>>721914370>>721914268
>>721908660>pedoblox
>>721909661>What's there to cope about?you're coping that i'm a plebbitor shill, to compensate for the fact your a poor, stupid, faggot.
>>721913725>Its running RE9 like how a PS4 will.That's already wrong because it's not releasing on a PS4.
>>721894486>Is Switch 2 going to kill off Sony and Microsoft?>$80 empty open world mario kartsure it is
>>721914228lmao, you lying Snoy
>>721914359Anon fails to mention the fact that PC is getting smaller too. Massive dropoffs.>the price of consoles continuing to riseBy 50 dollars, as compared to 2k+ PC parts>>721914432no argument>>721914397itll be 2 years at least before switch or pc gets gta 6Also if PS4 cant play GTA 6, neither can the switch
>>721914520it is though
>>721914625>Also if PS4 cant play GTA 6, neither can the switchYeah retards and DF said this about other games and were proven wrong
>>721914359Snoys and Xbots are coping, even third parties see that no one is interested in the generation after the PS5 and Xbox Series which means most won't make the jump. Sony COULD lower the price of the PS6s but everyone with a brain knows that's a pipedream and Sony is most likely going to push for $600-$800 for the handheld and home console next gen. Xbox, in general, is dead. Nintendo and Valve won by purely staying out of it.
>>721914726Nope
>>721894486>The Xbox brand basically destroyed itself by having no gamesAnd also by spending billions buying some of the biggest companies in the industry who also delivered no games. Xbox will seppuku itself with no outside help from Nintendo or Sony. Probably half the company is incompetent diversity-hires now who only see the world through skin color and gender, they can't afford ten-year development times for games any more even though really no one can, and they just can't shrug off losses like they used to. Snoy on the other hand will be fine. Nintendo has been trying to kill it since the N64 with no luck.
>>721914625>Anon fails to mention the fact that PC is getting smaller too. Massive dropoffs.>By 50 dollars, >as compared to 2k+ PC partsPC isn't getting smaller because the high-end of PC is getting more expensive. PC is getting bigger cause more low-end PC users from the third world are becoming gamers. Places in the world where consoles aren't affordable or available.
>>721914845Dusk golem said he thinks it will launch on ps4.Capcom has also been blaming PS5 for the garbage games theyve made for it so dont be surprised if they put it on PS4 as well.
>>721914784For real? Are you a paid shill? The PS6 will be exactly like the PS5 is with a system that's backwards-compatible to the previous gen's library because that's the only way to create a full game catalog right at launch. Hardware-wise it'll be like the PS5 was to the PS4, which is the same thing but with higher capacity. That's also the logical way to go. The only thing Sony really needs to do to push the PS6 is allow save-transfers from previous consoles.
>>721914927Okay but most of those computers arent even as good as a ps5. Theyre not going anywhere
>>721915037I don't know who that is but I wouldn't suddenly expect a version for the previous generation.
>>721914140>ROG Xbox AllyThe Xbox Ally only just went up for preorder and it sold out online almost immediately
>>721915149Dusk golem said he thinks itll be on PS4, and he also mentioned that village hid its ps4 availability for a while during marketing.
>>721914551This is as far as snoy will go with arguments. Because they know they lost.
>>721915037>Capcom has also been blaming PS5 for the garbage games theyve madeThey're blaming them because they're pretty much the biggest place to sell third party games and the install base is just not buying games, and Sony then goes and keeps increasing the price, they have all right to be pissed.
>>721915376Nah, no they dont at all. They made a garbage game that was garbage on all systems. Now theyre blaming sony to escape their own failures
>>721915265Never rely on a youtuber for your information, go by whats factually put in front of you. Otherwise you'll end up looking like this guy >>721915337 and losing it because people use facts and sources.
>>721915514Oh yeah, never go by this known leaker who has been accurate quite a lot. Sure thing, tendie
>>721894486Nintendo hasn't been a real competitor since the fucking GameCube. Nintendo consoles are just one of those things you pick up if they happen to make some games you're interested in. Gaming solely on a Nintendo console is a humiliation ritual.
>>721915112They don't have to be as good as a PS5. They just have to be accessible, available and used. And as their users continue to spend their income on video games in the coming years and decades, it won't be on a console. It'll be on another platform that'll continue to grow as the reach of consoles remains limited and growth stagnates.
>>721915489Literally all franchises have been doing worse on the PS5 than they did on the PS4. They called the PS5 a barrier because of the install base, but the bigger issue is that they're just not buying games, PS5 users only play Fortnite and use it for Netflix. Same exact shit happened to Square.
>>721915580oooh wow a LEAKER, better drop everything and listen to that guy
>>721915661>Literally all franchises have been doing worse on the PS5 than they did on the PS4.Not Genshin Impact.
>>721915661thats not why wilds failed though. it took a nosedive on steam so hard and barely has any players compared to its peak.It wasnt worth a shit.Plenty of games sit atop the ps store that sell every single day. The ps5 is their most successful gen to date, matter of fact.
>>721915632>Nintendo hasn't been a real competitor since the fucking GameCube.nintendo could have been a competitor if their greed didn't handicap them. they just sold a fuck lot of consoles but have no software to capitalize on that. third parties got fucked over with game key cards and there's nothing on the horizon apart from metroid.
>>721914397>"I'd buy a Switch 2 because of RDR2" shows how dire the situation is for Playstation.or its fags like you lying
>>721915892its forcing 4 players to buy a 5 to play it
the kinda games steamed tendies want you to play
>>721915995>and there's nothing on the horizon apart from metroid.Which is going to be on switch one. At this rate, there's no reason to buy one of these things as a companion console for another 3 years at least.
>>721915632They're in a position where everyone who owns any other platform also considers getting a Nintendo. People who don't play many games are fine with just a Switch, but there are more people every day who don't need any other platform. There's a reason the Switch sold 150 million while the others make 150 million while put together.On one hand you have the option of a PS5/Xbox or PC, but a Switch/Switch2 has no competition so you will buy it anyway, it being portable only adds to this.
>>721915995>there's nothing on the horizon apart from metroidThis is absolutely delusional, they're just not announcing games beyond the first year of the console, why would you even think there's nothing on the horizon when that has never been the case for Nintendo? You know damn well there's a new Zelda and Mario in development, for example, they don't have to announce them.
>>721916543Switch 2 or PC wont play GTA 6 for a long time though. Whether you like it or not, the home consoles will still sell hugely leading up to and around its release. Even if for nothing else other than GTA 6.
>>721916543switch didn't sell cause you can walk around with itpokemonanimal crossing caught fire
>>721916543If all you care about is portability, it makes more sense to get a PC handheld, especially if you have a PC. I actually ran into this problem right when the steam deck came out. I was using the switch for Nintendo and indie games at first, but I realized how much more sense it made to get indie games on steam once I got a steam deck. After that, my switch only got played for smash and the occasional first party game. Nintendo really needs to just shit out first parties like nobody's business and actually make them worth the Nintendo tax.
>>721916719Pokemon isn't what it used to be. Preview videos of Z-A are full pf people shitting on it
>>721916668Like 1 year isn't that long, the fact Nintendou could achieve 153 million sales with exclusives alone, old AAA games and indies shows how powerful their games are. Getting games like RE, FF, 007, GTA on top of that? Forget about it. Sony can't compete
>>721917063It took 2 years for V to hit PC and 6 is going to be multiple times even bigger than that. GTA is also more culturally relevant than anything Nintendo has ever made. Literally the largest release out of any form of media ever when they come out. The switch 2 will be more dead than it already is
>>721916030I've seen it for a few different franchises already>GTA 6 (no surprise)>RDR2>Final Fantasy/RE>007Of course those are some of the biggest but I'm sure all the other games will have a similar effect, monhun/DQ aren't new but there's also all the older games NS1 couldn't play
>>721916543The Switch 2 will end up selling only half of what the Switch 1 sold. But not because of PS/Xbox or PC. Because of mobile.
>>721916931I said reasons why switch sold you fucking idiot a finally home console poke game was very big it go ppl too buy the switch
>>721917178>It took 2 years for V to hit PCYeah so what? T2 wants people to double dip as much as possible, Switch 2 does that perfectly. They'll even get the Sony fanboys buying the Nintendo version
>>721913259Switch is Gen 8.
>>721917439what are you on about
>>721917762chatgpt what it means if you're slow
>>721917214>Because of mobile.this. the new xiaomi is bananas in terms of specs. the new galaxy is going to be even better.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHtyF_rCqU
switch sold so much yetbrabely defualt became muti-plattriangle strag was on the pc too then cause you guys dont buy games came to the psthe dongonrampa 11 or whatever the fuck its called will kill that studio cause its not on the ps
>>721917835>They'll even get the Sony fanboys buying the Nintendo versionthis is a lie, no one is buying cyberpunk on the switch after buying it on the ps whatever I rather like it on the 3
>>721917976>Apple trained a generation of smartphone manufacturers in China>only a decade later the Chinese have leapfrogged Apple
>>7219132596 and 7 were by far the best generations, it was a highly competitive market and we got all different kinds of games and exclusives from all consoles during that period of time.
>>721915059Are you, PS5 has been complete crap, Sony can't even get most of the PS4 players to drop it for a PS5, it's going to be even worse for the PS6 no matter how many try to shill it. It's pretty much over. There is no longer any room for high-end gaming.>>721915251How many were in stock, that can manipulate and I can guarantee that when there are more in stock, not artificially, it's going to collapse in sales. I already have a hard time believing Sony's sales data, you want me to somehow believe Microsoft's sales data when they lie more than Sony?
>>721918096As opposed to what? Spending 2 grand on a PC handheld that still plays it worse?Or people waiting for the PS handheld where they'll get slaughtered again? Vita had OLED and was a lot more powerful than 3DS and they didn't stand a chance.Besides on PC you can pirate everything so it's not even double dipping in the true sense, for many it's more like buying the game for the first time lol
>>721918586*can be manipulated
>>721918720>The Shitch and the PissStation and Xchud>Ninpedo games and most Ninpedos aren't interested in snoyAre you actually 8 years old?
>>721918395>>only a decade later the Chinese have leapfrogged Applei love how shameless the chinese are. they copied the desgin of the new apple and added a full OLED screen on the back. fuckign ruthless.it shits all over the brand new Apple for half the price. cold.https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=14181&idPhone2=13964
>>721918395>our leadership sees this, starts killing the leftist agenda and now plans to push what China is doing in America and Japan>difference is American and Japan will remain capitalist countries, not communist ones if China can even be called that anymore, America will return to being an Order Capitalist country while Japan will return to being a Collective Capitalist countryAmerica and Japan will leapfrog China so hard in the coming years it will be funny. The left will be wiped out for this to happen in both countries.
>>721918902NTA but he's actually right. PlayStation fans aren't interested in Mario or Zelda. Nintendo fans aren't interested in movie games.
>>721919654I don't deny that point. It's just the juvenile way of writing it.
>>721919654Not him but I don't see much of a difference between PlayStation and Xbox fans, both seem to like the same slop. Nintendo and PC players though seem very different, like real gamers vs the normalfag shit that is PlayStation and Xbox players.
>>721919654I see them say they're into 3D Mario/Zelda all the time and MK/Smash all the time. It's the other titles that gets more iffy like Fire Emblem or Pokemon etc.
>>721916543>People who don't play many games are fine with just a Switch, but there are more people every day who don't need any other platform.yeah the Switch's game library is so ridiculously huge on my end, between games in my backlog and the ones present in my wishlist, that it would take me a good 10 years at least to play them all. And that's without taking account of all the eventual Switch 2 games in the future. There is no point in owning a secondary platform these days, and spare time is the biggest bottleneck.
Only fire emblem 3 houses and Legends Arceus were the only 2 games worth playing and thus pirating on the switch.
>>721920376Gal Gun 2 is better. I play it hours and hours every day and coom over and over and over
>>721918586>How many were in stock, that can manipulate and I can guarantee that when there are more in stock, not artificially, it's going to collapse in sales.You know, that's an absolutely fair comment but as far as "collapsed in sales" goes, I don't imagine the projected market is that widespread but the fact that it's got a lot of normies talking about PC handhelds is pretty big. It's all very likely just a litmus test for the next stage of things and if it works, Xbox are going to be fine
>>721917976>be jeet>android android android. many such cases.
>>721923094Steam Deck already did that, the only ones that talk positively about the piece of shit that is the ROG Xbox Ally are paid shills. Xbox is not fine, Xbox is dead and losing retail stores and third parties is a sign that it's over.
>>721918635nigga Dont care about AAA just brought the castlevaine ds and gba collection sad you tendie consoles cant keep games on it
>>721912928GTAV releasing had absolutely nothing to do with the wiiU failing, you absolute retard
>>721894486Not only are they going to kill off Xbox and PlayStation, but they’re also killing off good will and trust.
>>721924849It did though. The fact that Nintendo even let out the Wii U means that they knew they were fucked and it wasn’t even worth trying
>>721925317>>721925317so gamecube shit cause no gta
>>721925317Other factors led to the Wii U failing, dumbass. GTA has never been a factor for Nintendo, no third party has.
>>721925792I mean just look at how badly the PS2 beat everything else back then. I’m not saying the GameCube didn’t have good games, it was just lacking why a lot of people buy consoles in general.
>>721925904It was though. They knew the Wii U would fail and didn’t care to change it because of the RND that would go into it. Whatever they released around that time was doomed. Didn’t matter what they did.Those other factors are just them slacking because they knew their fate. It’s directly why it failed.
>>721917214>Because of mobile.People made this same argument when Switch 1 was coming out. People were out there thinking the Switch would be Nintendo's final console.
>>721926037The Wii U was doomed because it didn't know what it wanted to be. Not because of GTA, dumbass. Nintendo was smart enough to build their consoles on their IPs, unlike Sony and Microsoft. If GTA was such a factor, Steam Deck along with PC, in general, wouldn't be such a success without it. GTA is just cope for the dying PlayStation and Xbox brand because they have nothing else now and it's a shit cope for yet another "TIMED" exclusive.
>>721926264The Wii U didn’t know what it wanted to be, because execs at Nintendo were shaking and had nothing good to show the world in the face of what would be the largest media release ever.And they didn’t get it. Watch the meltdown this time. There will be armageddon on this board from PC and tendies. It’s going to be chaos. Their egos will be shattered and they will have an existential crisis.Whether you like Sony/microsoft or not, it’s going to be really really big.
>>721926546So why did the switch sell truckloads without GTA?
>>721926743A handheld being in HD was novel at the time. No one cares now.
>>721926743Because luckily it dodged a GTA release. GTA V had been out on every platform by the time switch rolled around. So it really wasn’t going to hurt the switch that much.This time though, it’s going to be hurt much more by GTA.
>>721926902Highly doubtful, switch 2 is already a success
>>721926836Clearly they do, because it’s sold the most systems in the span of 3 months in history
>>721926245>People were out there thinking the Switch would be Nintendo's final console.It wasn't cause of mobile.
>>721926965That doesn’t mean it’s exempt from still failing. It’s still going to have no games even when GTA 6 releases.
>g-guys nintendo is doooooooomed!! This time for sure!
>>721927067That's just you dumb cultists buying it. It's running out of steam.
>>721927139It already has games thoughAnd your next post will be “THOSE DONT COUNT!!!”
>>721927196Yah the PS5 is fucked. But we were talking about switch 2
>>721927219Unfortunately there’s not even an entire catalog Nintendo could have that would win people over a modern GTA at release. It’s just the truth. Especially not Mario kart reskins and a 3d donkey Kong that flopped
>>721907183Quality doesn't matter anonIt already printed more money than console and PC combined, AND still keep growingPhone is a necessity item that everyone has in current age after all>>721907731Playing with touch screen sucks, and using phone with controller is janky, yesBut that's for us who grew up with physical buttonsIt's a different story for kids nowadays
>>721927368Galaxy collection and Pokémon meanwhile being top sellers on Amazon
>>721926546This sounds like cope from dying Snoys/Xbots
>>721927146Worse. The Video Game division of Nintendo will slowly lose relevance as the Movie/Theme Park divisions grow immensely successful.
>>721927554>the videogame division which just had the most successful generation in video game history will be forgottenYou really are delusional
>>721927468Gonna have to find more, a whole lot more. So many kids are going to drop the switch when they can’t play gta on it.>>721927469It’s true.
>>721925792GameCube's shit for a lotta reasons, which is why cubies seethe at the Switch and Switch 2.
>>721927667I know it's true that Snoys and Xbots are coping
>>721927667> So many kids are going to drop the switch when they can’t play gta on it.Parents aren’t going to get their kids gta. It’s a preteen/high school/college audience
>>721927649Yea, that's what happens when success was the past and not the future.
>>721927760You know that’s not what I meant. I was referring to what you were replying to, idiot manchild.>>721927774Everybody is going to want it
>>721927554Those will just make the game's division of Nintendo bigger. The Switch 2 shows up in the toys section of the Wal-Mart shopping booklet. Nintendo continues to promote their products to kids. This is why they'll remain successful. Know you market and audience.
>>721927862>graph shows an upward trend barring one generation Uh ok
>>721927943Consoles are dying.The Video Game Console market is shrinking, getting older and getting more affluent.>US households with a $100,000+ income now make up 43% of video game hardware sales, a rise from 36% just a few years ago.>18 – 24-year-olds only accounted for 3% of video game hardware purchases in the year ending July 2025, which is down from 10% for the same period ending July 2022. >The average age of console players in 2024 was 27.9 years old. That’s up from 24.2 years old in 2018.>Consoles are generating significantly more revenue than ever before.>PS5 unit sales is currently tracking slightly behind PS4, while Xbox Series S and X significantly lag Xbox One.>Last year in the US, 12 million console units were sold, the lowest figure in eight years>by the end of 2025, the number of active devices for the PS5/Xbox Series generation will be 14 million behind what the PS4/Xbox One achieved during the same point in their lifecycle. The company estimates that gap will widen to 20 million by the end of 2026.Why is this happening?>The cost of consoles are continuing to rise during a time when families are growing concerned about food prices and tariffs.>Consoles are not the entry-level game devices anymore, with tablets and smartphones becoming the typical ‘starter’ device for younger games. This poses a challenge for console makers on how to ‘upgrade’ customers from those devices to dedicated games machines.>And with the rising cost of game development, we’re witnessing a drop in exclusives and an increased multiplatform focus from publishers. Even Xbox and PlayStation are releasing games on other devices (including PC). This potentially weakens the appeal of these machines.https://archive.is/mkTWV
>>721927736The GameCube had a better library of games.>Sunshine has actual challenge and level design unlike Odyssey>TTYD is better than Origami King>Double Dash is still the only MK game where you can use two drivers at one time and is better than World>Melee has better gameplay and single player content than Ultimate>WindWaker and Twilight Princess are better than BotW and TotK>F-Zero GX mogs MK8D and World>Pikmin 2 is better than 4>has two StarFox games while the Switch has none
>>721928040>PlayStation and Xbox are dyingI know
>>721928197Then why is rockstar choosing to release the biggest media release of all time on them?Because nobody plays a switch
>>721928382Other than, yknow, 154m people
>>721928382You retards will just come up with excuses when GTA 6 is on Nintendo so who gives a shit
>>721928382If that number meant anything, they wouldn’t be releasing it on ps5/xbox, but they are.Because they’re actually what people are engaging with. The switch is a toy, not a real day to day gaming device that you live with
>>721928382They're up Sony's and Microsoft's buttholes in money. Others are either waking up to that delusion or dying. GTA 6 will be the end of Rockstars, the budget is just too high.
Reminder that Nintendo charged $10 for a soulless system tutorial while Astro’s Playroom was free
>>721928645> The switch is a toy, not a real day to day gaming device that you live withThis is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, the stupidest thing I’ve ever read on /v
>>721894486Sony already stated two months ago that they're no longer going to focus on hardware and will instead focus on releasing their game on a multiplatform format going forward. There's nothing to speculate about
>>721928725Reminder that sony put malware on their media players
>>721895884>>721896462>>721896570Trying too hard, E
>>721928645>The switch is a toy, not a real day to day gaming device that you live withComments like these really make me believe the people have little to no knowledge in videogames
>>721928775and microsoft said call of duty would launch on the switch.
>>721928645>The switch is a toy, not a real day to day gaming device that you live withWhat console is not a toy, video games will always be toys for kids and nerds. Sony and Microsoft failed to change that. Video games will never movies no matter how hard they try and make them that.
>>721928987*be
>>721928906Sony fanboys say that shit but they spend hours daily just console warring, that's their true hobby and always was.
>>721894486>Nintendo flopping hard with Switch 2>Quick, better make the hourly MS and Sony hit piece Kys
>>721928775They literally never said thst
>>721928906It’s true. It’s a chew toy.Real consoles like Xbox and PlayStation probably have by far a much bigger active user base
>>721929294>Nintendo flopping hard with Switch 2Source?
>>721894486havent switch 2 sales cratered after initial launch sales?
>>721929294>Snoys and Xbots being the same strikes againThus, why you should be called XSnoys at this point.
>>721929397>probably>by farAny actual numbers?
>>721929667Yeah, Nintendo has 129 million annual users vs PlayStation 123 million monthly users.Nintendo only reports annually for a reason. Because the numbers monthly are abysmal and not worth showing
>>721929397>Real consoles like Xbox and PlayStationlmao, the moment you think other aspects are more important than the video games themselves, it the moment you can no longer be considered a REAL console. Nintendo has the only real console that exists. Gaming is Nintendo and PC, that's it.
>>721929250What else are they going to do? They have no games.
>>721929819The funny thing is, is that PlayStation and Xbox are essentially PCs. So yeah maybe it is all pc, but PlayStation and Steam have roughly the same monthly users. Ps5 is just a better pc that gets games before the shittier windows gaming systems.And Nintendo has nobody playing it monthly. It’s shelf candy
>>721930006It's bizarre no matter how you see it, they went out of their way to find Xbox fanboys to argue with them constantly even as they slowly disappeared over time. Never seen any fanbase that goes out of their way just to attack other fanbases all the time
>>721930059>The funny thing is, is that PlayStation and Xbox are essentially PCsThen they don't need to exist.
>>721895884>there will be shift to mobile and cloud gamingLol no
>>721930198Ain’t nobody wanna spend thousands just to play the same games as console. Oh yeah and consoles get games earlier than pc
>>721930059Or because they don’t feel the need to post monthly user “engagement” instead of console sales like certain other companies
>>721894486it's going to kill nintendo, nobody wants it
>>721927554this nigga thinks tendie park will be that big
>>721930328They report both, Nintendo is the one who doesn’t want to report monthly engagement, because there is next to none.
>>721928121also the one best pokemon games so good gamefreak got that company shut downthe starfox games fucking suck
>>721930435There clearly is, otherwise nintendo would’ve said so months if not years ago. You’re basing this all off no data or logic whatsoever
>>721930508Yeah there’s some, but far lower than PlayStation, or they’d show it. They have to rack up the entire year just to show the same number to people on their spreadsheets
>>721930660It's only the failing companies that starts to care about MAU and shit because they don't have the console sales anymore
>>721930292Get a Steam Deck
>>721930660in the 1 month or 2 we was getting weekly threads about the switches sales and now its stopped
>>721930726no one wants the fucking troon deck
>>721930726That thing barely runs games though.>>721930708The thing is, is that PlayStation is likely to outsell the ps4 this gen with gta 6 releasing and the Xbox being nearly off the market. You can’t run from the fact that they’re using an entire year vs ps or even steams consistent monthly counts. Those are legit platforms that people use day to day. It’s the way it is
>>721894486The switch 2 can't save sony and microsoft because sony and microsoft developers are trying to peddle off game key cards to an audience that buys pretty much everything but fucking game key cards.It's like refusing to use an infinite money glitch in favor of a glitch that just deducts your money and kicks you in the balls each time.
>>721930660>far lower than PlayStation you have no idea if it is or not. You are quite literally pulling assumptions out of your ass
>>721928943All you gotta do is wait anon, we were already told Blops 7 on Switch 2 would not release at the same time as the other versions>>721929382Yes they did, and no amount of pretending otherwise will change it
>>721930806>wasESL
>>721930497Genius Sonority wasn’t shut down. James Turner made some Pokemon designs and also made his own game. The rest are working on mobile slop.
>>721930880> PlayStation is likely to outsell the ps4 this genLolLMAO even
>>721931030ignore what i say then
>>721930954It’s common sense. They would like to tell the world that they have consistent engagement. But the best they can show is how many people engage with at least 1 game every year on Nintendo. Grim
>>721930871>>721930880Wait for the Steam Deck 2 then, excuses, excuses
>>721931124> They would like to tell the world that they have consistent engagementThey don’t have to say that at all. It’s just a new metric sony and MS invented to pretend they’re not dying bricks with a horrible install rate
>>721931083>Genius Sonorityhavent made a real game since 07 they are as good as dead
>>721931108the ps5 will most likely keep going for another 5 plus years
>>721931196And yet ps still has more monthly users. It’s just the truth. If Nintendo’s monthly were that high they would flaunt it
>>721931316So the PS6 will be Dead in the water then? Sony really is finished
>>721931316Meaning the PS6 will sell even less because its big selling point is ray tracing, path tracing, and AI nonsense.
>>721931350Nintendo doesn’t need to flaunt it because they already sell more consoles and games while sony has to combine pS4, portal, ps5, micro transactions, and refurbished units to cover the “ps5 generation”
>>721930880>The thing is, is that PlayStation is likely to outsell the ps4 this genPS4 was way cheaper, had exclusives and no competition until Switch arrived
>>721931497Wait until you see what equivalent PCs will cost by then though>>721931521They would though if they could, their numbers are just not that good. Consoles sold doesn’t necessarily equal out to more engagement and real people playing them.And truth be told, the ps5 is more or less a fairly optional upgrade over the ps4, they just utilized both systems to push their income to new heights.
>>721894486No it will die too just way slower. Soon everyone will have a chink handheld or a smartphone they can play Roblox on
>The thing is, is that PlayStation is likely to outsell the ps4 this gen>shipped numbers againSo, it'll never outsell the PS4 then?
>>721931374>>721931497or it means consoles just live longer and the ps6 will pick up sales in the middile of its life, like how the ps3 outsold the 360
>>721912374What resources? Valve doesn't even manufacture their hardware themselves unlike Sony and Microsoft. They're paying out the ass for someone else to make a product for them, can't even afford take a cut to put it on retail shelves, and then sell it at a loss for the duration. Nothing will magically change. It will be steam deck 2.0 until Valve changes their entire operation.
>>721931608So then what’s your excuse for the ps5 still outselling it?
>>721931728> their numbers are just not that good. Consoles sold doesn’t necessarily equal out to more engagement and real people playing them.It does when you have attach rate and famitsu numbers to back it up. Meanwhile Sony’s numbers are in the toilet and they’re putting games on PC AND switch
>>721931812Unless PS5 goes down to 200-300 euro like PS4 with free bundled games it's never gonna happen
>>721931728>Wait until you see what equivalent PCs will cost by then thoughDoesn't matter, PlayStation, Xbox, and high-end PCs are doomed because of increasing high prices. The future is Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 since Nintendo and Valve don't go crazy on hardware.
>>721931736That’s how Nintendo, PlayStation and all the rest do it.
>>721931812It’s not outselling it. It’s down vs ps4 sales by this time in its life and it still has like 50m units to go just to match it
>>721931932That’s not at all how Nintendo does it
>>721931795The PS4 staying in the market hurt the PS5, this will be even worse for the PS6 because Sony can't get people off the PS4.
>>721931885>>721931885yes you fucking idiot I just said the ps5 will go on for another 5 odd years so it means it will end up droppinghttps://jaf-enterprises.odoo.com/shop/playstation5-standard-disk-drive-console-hogwarts-legacy-bundle-28you can get a ps5 disc right now for 365 euros
>>721931807Not him but the Steam Deck 2 is coming in 2027 since it's using the same chip the next Xbox and its OEMs are using from AMD.
>>721931885We’ll just have to see. The ps5 is currently right on pace with the ps4 and that’s even before gta 6 release. Oh yeah and Xbox has even less of a presence than when GTA v released.>>721931904Sony is going to have a handheld and it’s going to be better than the deck 2 and switch 2. The ps5 is already a better console than both will ever be, even before the handheld releases. Normies are going to eat that up
>>721932039if it hurt the market sony would stop supporting it yet its not
>>721931904????pc hardware uses the same fucking silicon from the same semiconductor plants
>>721931932Nintendo doesn't do that, they give us "sold" data.
>>721932073They'll stop selling PS5 because they'll shift production to PS6, anon.
>>721894486Xbox killed itself already.There's rumours that the PS6 will have a handheld and a standard model. If that happens then yes, Nintendo has killed off Sony.
>>721932137do you know who makes chips for sony and valve and why your retarded snoy fanboyism makes no sense?
>>721932190Sold in. To retailers. Same way Sony does it
I don't understand how people can say a few days after the release that they finished the game and that they have 40 hours of gameplay behind them. How? Bananza came out in July and I still haven't finished it, after 55 hours
>Tendies proclaiming the death of Playstation>AgainSome of you are younger than this cope is old, god damn.
>>721929294>Nintendo flopping hard with Switch 2
>>721932418You are in your 60s, Abib.Nintendo won.
>>721932468why post a tendie anon?
>>721932137>Sony is going to have a handheld and it’s going to be better than the deck 2 and switch 2. The ps5 is already a better console than both will ever be, even before the handheld releases. Normies are going to eat that uplmao>>721932172Sony and Microsoft want dedicated NPUs and AI Accelerators, Valve doesn't want that and is going the Nintendo route with it.
>>721894486>going toSony is going full third party and Xbox is literally kill. They already won.
>>721932158Because they have to support it or else the PS5's failures would show more.
>>721932137Sony handheld is going to be at least $600 and will have to compete with the deck AND Xbox’s handheld, and it’s already more expensive that switch or switch 2, it also has to somehow play PS5 games, which means it will probably be at least $700. Plus it will somehow have to have actual games on it which the PS5 and 6 will struggle to have
>>721932413Sold to consumers
>>721894486Both the Playstation and Xbox brands will end up as subscription Nintendo owners can download to their devices. The writing has been on the wall for years.
>>721932413Proof?
>>721932690To make matters worse, the Deck 2 is rumored to be around $500, meaning the Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 will be the cheapest and most affordable gaming devices next gen. PlayStation and Xbox are fucked.
>>721932607Sonysisters....
>>721932690It doesn’t have to have exclusives to sell. It’s going to be the first real handheld that can play third party stuff on a console ecosystem. Nintendo doesn’t have that, and valve doesn’t have it either.>>721932705>>721932771Shipped.
>>721932750It gets worse as more PlayStation and Xbox games keep getting optimized/verified for Switch/Switch 2 and Steam Deck even currently. They're both taking multiplatform very seriously.
>>721929809Doesn't matter. Nintendo turns that 129 million into 100% profit while sony shows up to shareholder meetings taking about revenue.
>>721932917> It’s going to be the first real handheld that can play third party stuff on a console ecosystemBy all means tell me what you think the handheld will cost>shippedSold. To consumers
>>721932872Delete this. NOW.
>>721932917>It doesn’t have to have exclusives to selllmao>ShippedNintendo has never reported shipped numbers, only sold numbers.
>>721932557wafers are just as expensive regardless of who amd is planning to sell the chips to
>>721932969Again, they all report them the same way, shipped or whatever, the numbers they report are relatively the exact same.>>721933004It really doesn’t. The ps5 is Sonys most successful gen of all time and is likely to outsell the ps4 despite according to you it having no games. Nintendo needs exclusives because they offer nothing else
>>721932114Means nothing unless valve builds a manufacturing plant, mass produces steam decks, and puts it on retail shelves, like Sony and Microsoft.
>>721932542Why are you lying?
What I don't understand is why the Switch 2 is able to run games 120fps if the PS4 and Xbone couldn't?
>>721933091And still the Steam Deck 2 using the Magnus will be the cheapest gaming hardware using Zen 6 and UDNA.>>721933203Microsoft is about to stop doing that
>>721933320Modern hardware
>>721933320Switch 2 has proper DLSS, meanwhile PS4 and Xbone have a weird upscaler shit, like a mix of FSR but way worse.
>>721933368>Microsoft will stop manufacturing electronics soon
>>721933180>It really doesn’tYou're about to find that out the hard way. A lack of exclusives is what killed the Xbox.
>>721933320It can’t run Fortnite or call of duty at 120fps
>>721932137>even before the handheld releases. Normies are going to eat that upA lot of crazy thoughts about that thing, thinking it's gonna be more powerful than PS5 but also much cheaper and somehow also catch all free third party support. Without exclusives it's dead in the water
>>721933546reputation is what killed the xboxit's very hard to penetrate a market made up of stubborn retards which is what the target audience of sonysony will absolutely be fine
>>721933606Yeah but I can't play hollow knight or Hades at 120 fps on my PS4 but I can on switch 2. They didn't run the lightweight games at 120 fps either
>>721933504They're shifting to OEMs. The ROG Xbox Ally is to test handhelds, next year's PC living room box is to test consoles. 2027 first party home console will be sold only on the Microsoft Store in North America and the United Kingdoms and will serve as a reference to the next gen OEMs using the same Magnus APU in the next gen Xbox. The OEMs are what will be sold in retailers. Xbox is dead.
>>721933320good cpu matters for high fps and both ps4 and xbone had dogshit cpus because amd was shitting themselves at the timealso hdmi limitationsalso very few switch 2 games actually run 120fps
>>721894486Microsoft isn't going anywhere. PC gaming is still king. Xbox might become something else like a certification for third party hardware and Windows gaming and Xbox gaming will merge.Sony stands the least chance of surviving in the long term. They don't know how to innovate and their consoles haven't changed in any significant way other than processing power since the PS2.Microsoft could actually do the best in the long run, especially if they buy Valve and merge Steam with Xbox to make one universal gaming platform for all devices. Nintendo couldn't compete with that just making their own hardware.
>>721933720Nope, Xbox's consoles sales started to fall when they first put games on PC, it collapsed completely when they announced they were putting their games on Switch and PlayStation. PlayStation is next.
>>721933705As if lacking exclusives matters to ps at this point. >>721933768So it took Nintendo 5 years to finally reach 120hz. Interesting. Quite some catch up going on there
>>721908216This is some of the most retardeded shit I've ever heard in my life. Why are you faggots even responding to this bait seriously?
>>721933947>As if lacking exclusives matters to ps at this point.Look at what happened with Xbox. Enough said
>>721933905snoyboxes have a market of people who don't want nintendo and don't know what steam isthey need their boxes to play cod and other normieslop
>>721933947what a passive aggressive faggot.
>>721933858Give up on the buying Valve and Nintendo nonsense. It's never happening. Xbox is fucked completely in the gaming space. SteamOS already won the PC handheld wars. Microsoft will just put their games on Steam and keep the Xbox app alive as long as the Game Pass slaves don't kick the bucket.
>>721934051>AstrobotThe normalfags will be priced out of gaming. Sony knows their future is multiplatform like Microsoft.
>>721934007The thing is, PlayStation has exclusives that are probably never ever coming to pc. Gran Turismo 7, Demons Souls Remake, Astro Bot, Bloodborne too. They have some highly sought after games. On top of getting timed ones like the entire FF remake and 16 lineup, Death Stranding 2, Yotei, Wolverine, Spiderman, etc.And PlayStation is far more popular than Xbox in general. Xbox didn’t even come out with a fully haptic controller to compete
>>721934256>so desperate to list relevant exclusives she has to mention one from 10 years agooof
>>721934256You can emulate bloodborne now. Sony has sat on the game for so fucking long you can emulate it.
>>721934256>Astro Bothttps://www.ign.com/articles/astro-bot-director-leaves-door-open-for-pc-version-shuts-down-playstation-vr2
>>721934323Isn’t that what a lot of switch exclusives are? Almost 10 years ago. If not, they’re definitely getting close
>>721933801Yeah i don't care if xbox dies. You're never going to see steam decks on shelves.
>>721934518Doesn't matter, PC handheld market will remain theirs
>>721934518Brick and mortar is dying anyway. Who gives a fuck if it's never on the shelves
>>721934256It's funny you guys have to mention timed exclusives like it's a real selling point vs Nintendo's permanent exclusives. Mario Kart World will sell like 50+ million and then Sony fanboys are like "we got rinkadink Gran Turismo!" The entire franchise sold 100 million, MK8D alone sold 75-78 million and it's still selling on just 2 consoles, like it could keep selling on Switch 2 for all we know which is the hilarious thing. Sony doesn't have a single franchise that comes close to that.
>>721933180>they all report them the same way, shipped or whatever, the numbers they report are relatively the exact same.They don’t though, you’re just coping and saying they’re the same
>>721934640I mean if somebody wants to play spider man 2 years early you gotta get a ps5. Even if they port it later, the sales impact was had and they got effective use out of it being an exclusive.You do realize, Mario kart world was bundled with nearly every switch 2 right? And it’s dead right now. Sony didn’t need one game to do that well either. Their players are already spoiled with countless third party and 120fps in multiplayer support.
>>721934676They do though. The ps5 has hit 80m the same way the switch has hit 153m and the Xbox hit 30m ish.
>>721934953The switch sold because it has games. The PS5 sold because of cultists that buy anything with the PS logo on it and mouth breather thirties who need every yearly installment of fifa
>>721933320at a nice crisp 640p
>>721934592It matters to me since that was my entire argument.
>>721935035Why didn't the Wii U sell?
>>721934440yet you fags always beg for a port
>>721935035The switch also sold because of brand loyalist manchildren who didn’t grow out of little Einsteins. It’s not any better.
>>721935105Didn't have many games. Like nothing but Mario Kart.
>>721934873>and they got effective use out of it being an exclusiveIt's pure speculation because building a fat library takes time. Even when Nintendo sold less the audience didn't necessarily go away forever, they waited or simply bought the handhelds. This whole crap that exclusives don't matter is just an Xbox shill talking point and it's the most retarded shit ever. Playstation won't even have the third party edge anymore so it's even dumber
>>721935035these sold out
>>721935105Because tendies aren’t cultists like snoys and nintendo did a horrible job of marketing it. It hd a decent library despite being the catastrophe it was>>721935137>>721935105
>>721935041Nope. >>721935124I just wanted Sony to officially update the game to at least run at 60 FPS. They won't even do it on PS5. I don't give a fuck anymore because someone else did it.
>>721935180The Switch outsold the Wii U less than a year after launch, while it had much fewer games.
>>721935221Perfect for the melanated audience they’ve cultivated
>>721935241Why do you say both "tendies" and "snoys"?Whose side are you on?I thought you were a PlayStation fan.
>>721935194Tendies have to wait on games because Nintendo won’t put any other games on the system than the ones they pulled out of their asses. PlayStation gets timed exclusives and exclusives on top of every major third party game in existence. Pc and switch are the waiting game playing devices
>>721935269fuck off everyone time theres a playsation eventtheres always threads BB finally on PC you whiny cunts dont play games you port beg you can elmulate it play it 60fps there and shut the fuck up about the game its been 10 years I am sick of the fucking game cause of you whiny wankers keep droning on about it
>>721935180That’s like the switch 2 though
>>721935275Debatable. And it finished with mountains more games regardless.
>>721935459Not anymore.
>>721935105No games, nothing anyone wanted, gimmick was stupid, too expensive. The 3DS had a better library than the Wii U, everyone just got that instead.
>>721935578>DebatableAnd that's how we can tell you're a cultist.
>>721935585Didn’t it take 8 years for you guys to get any big third party game? That’s why you were projecting about no games. Because you had none
>>721935524Not really.
>>721935429his a steamed tender
>>721935505It's not my fault they won't update their game, cum guzzling Snoy. You wouldn't have to read about it if they did the sensible thing. They're waiting until PS6 so they can have Blueprint ruin the atmosphere with another remake.
>>721935643Every one of those points applies to the Switch, except for not having games, which is not true.
>>721935668You can call me names, doesn't bother me.
>>721935692Nintendo played the long game and won.
>>721935807So yeah, tendies were projection about not having games then. Dissatisfied customers for 8 years straight
>>721908216You forgot to include the prices of the console and a charger and an electricity supply and medical checkups ensuring your thumbs are in good order and
>>721935889>about not having games thenwhat on earth did you mean by this? steam has games, both 3rd party and exclusives
>>721935889dissatisfaction doesn't cause broken sales records on the follow-up at launch
>>721894486More like kill off Nintendo
>>721935889We Nintendo fans were busy playing the best Mario games, Abib.
>>721936045switch*derp
>>721935786Handhelds aren't gimmicks. The WiiU pad was a glorified select button.
>>721936136>The WiiU pad was a glorified select button.second stupidest thing Ive read today in this thread, just behind "the switch isnt a video game console"
>>721936045Steam isn’t Nintendo.>>721936048And yet it’s fallen off hard>>721936079No you weren’t
>>721936239>And yet it’s fallen off hardstill stuck with a lottery system to buy it in japan. Surely you have numbers to show the dropoff though, right?
>>721936239I didn't care about third-party games, I was playing Super Mario Odyssey.
>>721936302The Japan market isn’t the whole world anon. It’s actually one of the smallest ones out there.
>>721936224it could also change channels on your tv i guess
>>721936442its not. I noticed you didnt provide any proof though
>>721935783I dont not give a fuck I buy it at 10dollas so who gives a shitI've played BB before so who cares if I play it againI am not crying port begging like you son
>>721935786Switch had everything people wanted, the Switch 2 will have everything people want. I can see Nintendo doing what they did with Switch and bring back some dormant series for the Switch 2. Switch 2 allows you to play it anyway you want just like the original. It's only a gimmick if you choose to treat it like one unlike the Wii/DS era of Nintendo.
Why does this tendie think gta 6 is coming to the switch? Nintendos shitty online service can’t even run party games without lag and we’re gonna pretend that it’ll run GTA’s open world online?
>>721936474It can also play games on your TV
>>721936442Japan is one of the largest gaming markets actually.
>>721936590phone markets
>>721936559It's not coming, nor does it need it.
>>721936681japan is one of the biggest consumers of gachaslop in the world
>>721936546>Switch had everything people wanted,wat?
>>721936681And console markets
>>721936751games. Yknow, the reason people buy consoles
>>721936683>sour grapes
>>721936751Sales don't lie
>>721936812what new games does it have?
>>721936841I'll be buying GTA6 day one. Calm down.
>>721936890metroid dread, mario odyssey, mario party superstars, new pokemon snap, smash ultimate, tears of the kingdom(yuck), echoes of wisdom, bowsers fury, dark souls remastered, pokemon arceus, prime remastered, mario rabbids sparks of hope, etcgo ahead and say those dont count now
>>721895884P CYOU KNOW IT
>>721937091Where is call of duty, Roblox, MGS delta, silent hill f, re4 remake, Astro bot, death stranding 2?
>>721936878This whole conversation is about how having games has little to do with sales.
>>721937147why are you moving the goalposts?
>>721936751Switch Has Games
>>721937185If you want those games, you can’t play them on a switch or s2
>>721937172>people buying games they want has nothing to do with people wanting gamesinteresting theory
>>721937091I didn't realise zelda and smash 4 dlc were new games. or dark souls and metroid prime ports
>>721937147>RobloxKek
>>721894486Sony and MS don't really need any help.
>>721937091>dark souls remastered,you ok anon
People get the Switch and Steam Deck if they love games, people get a PlayStation if they're a normal faggot.
>>721937261I can play them on PC>>721937264fortunately theyre not DLC, so you dont have to worry about thatI didnt realize mg delta or re4 remake were new games
>>721937278Literally probably the most played game in the world monthly at this point
>>721937278biggest game in the world it should be on the tendie console really
>>721937172Sounds like a tough position to defend. Good luck with that.
>>721937332you emulate the switch games so you're not a goyslave
>>721937360Pc is an expensive pain in the ass that is filled with broken console ports and cheaters galore. No thanks.
>>721937296yah, dark souls on the go. Its great.
>>721937378if you were conscious before 2017 then it's pretty easy, actually
>>721937451sorry youre poor and too stupid to troubleshoot. I havent had any problems on my end
>>721937451This meme is 20 years out of date.
>>721937550Sorry you’re retarded enough to pay the tax on an overpriced graphics card that is worse than a ps5
>>721937469Well you seem to be struggling.
>>721937642you pay twice to use your own internet, lmao, dont act like youre better than me
>>721937426I will be a goyslave and support Nintendo.>>721937451This hasn't been true for many years.
>>721937732I don’t have do deal with hackers/cheaters and I actually get to play gta 6 on release
>>721937775havent had any problems with cheaters on my end> I actually get to play gta 6 on releasethe game that isnt even out yet? enjoy waiting for your PS5 to be worth something 6 years later!
>>721937732Who's acting?
>>721937642>overpricedyou can build a ps5 pro pc for the same price you moronyou pay for performance and it scales basically linearly up until the 9070xtthe only actually overpriced gpu out there is the 5090
>>721937931you, my retarded friend
>>721937858You’ll have to wait even longerDid your graphics card come with a fully haptic controller by the way?
>>721937985>You’ll have to wait even longerok. Its not like theres anything I miss by not playing it on release
>>721937464you have never taken the switch outside stop it
>>721937961Sorry PC vegan, it's just how it is.
>>721937985do you modern consoloids genuinely use vibrationback in my day on the ps3 that shit was annoying and we turned it off but i guess you get to sync it with your buttplug
>>721937940Try building an equivalent pc to a ps5 pro that can play gta 6 on release, comes with a fully haptic controller, plays games in a functional console ecosystem, and gets timed exclusives.
>>721938126knowing that Im playing and enjoying dark souls on the bus and it makes you seethe gives me joy
reminder there was a theard on here with steamies looking for friends cause they cant do it organicaly
>>721938150yah, snoys will pay for their own internet(and have it hacked/go down) and thank sony for the privilege of doing soquite sad
>>721938093You shouldn’t have to wait longer after spending more.
>>721938213it just doesnt seem like good to play on the bus, its not made for that
>>721938198>timed exclusivesdo you people genuinely justify having a shit cucked system with a fraction of the functionality, freedom and catalogue with your lack of restraint?
>>721938328I havent spent any money on my PC in the last 5 years though?
>>721938213>on the bus
>>721913432>The switch 2 is 2 generations behind in terms of powerNobody ever separated console generations based on vague notions of how powerful they were until the Switch began to coexist with notably beefier systems in the past ~5 years. This is as arbitrary as it is recent, a bit like how "no games" was always universally understood to refer to exclusives until it became too difficult to argue against for two of the big three in about the same timeframe. There's no reason why one should hold this stance and not also make the point that the Wii wasn't 7th gen, or that any given handheld wasn't also part of its respective generation by extension.
>>721938292Never happened on my end
>>721938396>snoys worship a manchild who does anything buy actually play video gameshow fitting
>>721938475you never paid for online? or you didnt know about sony's latest PSN outage?
>>721938381So what? Equivalent pcs are still way more than ps5.>>721938367I don’t know how you guys are okay with spending what you do only to be locked out of timed exclusives.
>>721938583>So what? Equivalent pcs are still way more than ps5.so I dont know why you think Im spending more when my cost is literally $0
>>721938458>or that any given handheld wasn't also part of its respective generation by extension.I definitely think that's true. PSP and DS had basically nothing to do with Wii or PS3. Handheld generations never lined up well chronologically with console generations either.
>>721938654So what was the cost of the system
>>721938742what system? my PC?$300 for the graphics card upgrade, everything else Ive had since 2018
>>721938806Add the rest up, then return
>>721938847why? the gpu investment is less than a PS5, which is what you were arguing.
>>721938914No that’s not what I was arguing. Generally these days, cards alone are more than consoles, even before the rest of the build is factored in
The Switch 2 didn't kill Sony and Microsoft. Sony and Microsoft killed themselves.
>>721938583>So what? Equivalent pcs are still way more than ps5.they're objectively fucking not and you don't know what you're talking about>locked out of timed exclusives.locked out? that's the term you're using?you're being herded like cattle because you have zero willpower
>>721938982>Generally these days, cards alone are more than consolesis the PS5 $300? because thats how much my gpu cost
>>721938567Correct I have had all PSN, Xbox online, and NSO for periods of time during the 8th and 9th gens and I've never been hacked or unable to play any game.
Going to kill that PS handheld rumor, it'll be able to play PS4 games natively, it'll only be able to some PS5 games natively because it's impossible to get native PS5 games to play on it at such low wattages. Only some low-powered games should be playable on it, PS6 games are hugely debatable, I'm guessing PS6 games are 30FPS but the moment the PS6 is playing those at 30, handheld is done. Don't know why Sony is releasing that. Makes no sense. I also don't know how the Xbox handheld using Magnus is going to go against the Steam Deck 2 using Magnus when it's going to cost significantly more than the Deck 2. Sony and Microsoft seem to also be doing things to further help Nintendo and Valve putting things on Switch 2 and Steam Deck from a software standpoint and RDNA 5/UDNA for the next Steam Deck hardware. This smells like complete third party movement from both.
>>721939035I said gpus these days are more than ps5s. Maybe your pile of a card is cheaper, but including your whole build, nah
>>721939084oh so youre lyinghttps://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/playstation-network-experiences-massive-outage-frustrating-gamers-nati-rcna191327
>>721939004Build a pc that can even touch a ps5 for 499. With brand new parts. Also has to include a fully haptic controller too
>>721939124>Don't know why Sony is releasing that. Makes no sense.for some reason the switch gimmick is selling and they're doing the best to copy that
>>721939152fortunately that build has allowed me to play 1000's of games aand not just sit on my ass waiting for GTA6 to come out(still hasnt, btw)
>>721939195Havent had PSN since 2020
>>721939245$549*
>>721939251From what I heard, it's going to be like how Steam Deck does it, built in controls, meaning you'll need a controller to play on TV. Why would anyone get this if they already own a PS4 or PS5. This feels very redundant.
>>721939353The extra $50 is for playing physical games, which is a feature that a PC lacks.
>>721939353Gotta look at the digital version. PCs don’t come with disc drives either.
>the PS5 is a better investment if you specifically get the digital only version
>>721939398The Switch's joycons are fucking awful and it doesn't come with a real controller, so I don't see much of a difference.
>>721939510>The Switch's joycons are fucking awful and it doesn't come with a real controllerthe joycons combine to make the real controller. Dualshock has the exact same stick drifting issue
>>721939510You can use the controller grip or get a Pro Controller.
>>721939582Drifting is a nothingburger compared to the ergonomics, which are unfixable. No, a grip doesn't make a difference.
>>721939681>Drifting is a nothingburger compared to the ergonomics, which are unfixableso youre just retarded then. theres noting at all wrong with holding it
>>721939245pc parts aren't made with the intent of getting turbo poorfag shit and if you're aiming at the console poverty level you're expected to buy usedthat $50 compensates for all the games you can't play on console, another $50 for a controller and you're not paying to use your own internet so you'll recoup thatalso haptic feedback is for dumb niggers, imagine genuinely thinking vibration is a good feature in 2025
>>721940046A 5060 8gb isnt even as good as a PS5. PS5 has 12.5gb of vram available. And it also has GDDR6 memory. 8gb cards are pretty much worth nothing.That PC would be a complete pile. Nice try though.Paying for internet filters thirdies and cheating pricks. Yeah, haptics are quite advanced and PCs dont even come with them.
>>721940214>Paying for internet filters thirdiestheyre the main buyers of PS5's, what did you mean by this?
>>721940272The hordes live on PC, because they cant pay for online. Imagine spending 70 dollars on a multiplayer game that you dont even know is going to be properly working and hacker free. They just had to delist one COD for this recently.
>>721940214>vramsystem ram retardare you going to pretend that consoles don't have to share it?>Paying for internet filters thirdies and cheating pricks.you're a thirdie if you play slop where cheating is even a concern that you can't just kick in 10 seconds>Yeah, haptics are quite advanced and PCs dont even come with them.>advancedfucking lolvibration is a fucking meme for retards who play cinematic snoy moviegame slop
>>721940432>The hordes live on PCuh huh
>>721940464They do share it, however, the PS5 has access to 12.5 for gaming. Pro has even more.A lot of first worlders like their CODs and Sports titles. Theyre junk on PC. Haptics were pretty sick in Astro Bot, arguably the best platformer, non movie game ever made.
>>721940592>arguably the best platformer, non movie game ever madeyou dropnes really are amazed by anything that isnt a cinematic experience
>>721940650Nah, it just was objectively that good.
>>721940698not really. Perfectly middle of the road. Ripped way too much from galaxy and sunshine
>>721940762Just admit it. It was literally better than any mario ever lmao. And it has trophies.
>>721940841it wasnt >And it has trophies.lmao, literally shiny jangling keys to snoys
>>721940891Youd like them tendie. Youre just salty that you dont have them.
>>721939353I've already post in this thread a ps5 at 300odd usd buy it and get it sent to you easy
>>721940937>youre jealous you dont have achievementsI genuinely pity you to stoop as low as bragging about this
>>721940592>proas i've said before, the ps5 is in a spot where all the side components make it somewhat worth buyingthe pro is where pc starts stretching its wings, pic related beats the pro and costs less>They do share itexactly retard, it's never going to be 12.5, it'll be WAYYYYYYYY less and it'll be on par with that 5060 by that point>A lot of first worlders like their CODs and Sports titles. Theyre junk on PC.so you're identifying with actual retards with below average iqs just because they live in the first world?great admission therealso yes, your slop is considered junk on pc
>>721941042No, it uses 12.5 of the ram for gaming, 16 in total.
>>721941042forgot pic
>>721940937Didn't care on my PS4. Didn't care on my Series X. Didn't care on my PC. Won't care on my Switch.
>>721941079games need both ram and vram you duncea gpu isn't going to dedicate all 12.5gb of shared memory to just be vram
