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https://youtu.be/vVWhtrFifPA?t=1663
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>new Maribel model
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I was thinking about getting this but the colors are so fucking washed out. They are still reusing assets from 11. I hate Unreal Engine. I hate how japs are only using that engine or RE engine. I want UE dead and gone.
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>>721896551
Colours look washed out because it's a stream recording of live gameplay intended for being put on a large projector.
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>>721895924
The colors could be a little more saturated, but otherwise, I'm really warming up to this look.
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>>721895924
>no class outfits
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What's the best DQ7 music?

https://youtu.be/xY1coBG1ld0
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>>721895924
censored garbage
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>>721895924
So what was censored this time?
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>>721895924
>>721898057
>ruin all the heads because they want to distance themselves of toriyama
>blatant censorship and going out of their way to make the women less attractive
apparently they removed a bunch of islands too? not sure if it was from 3ds additions or they're just cutting down the story.
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>cut down the intro
>kiefer no longer abandons you
>no vocation outfits
>removed god
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>>721898745
why are all the new dragon quest remakes censored and destroyed? do they have denuvo too lol
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>>721898745
>>ruin all the heads because they want to distance themselves of toriyama
Why would they want to distance themselves from the most popular japanese artists of the century?
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>>721898812
>why are all the new dragon quest remakes censored and destroyed?
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>>721895924
DQ games are all the same, the only thing different between them is the text/story but even there they reuse quests and tropes between games to a ludicrous degree. Why are the Japanese so fond of this series? Is some kind of Alzheimer's disease?
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Any new DQM in the works? Dark Prince or whatever was kinda ass.
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>>721899013
because they saw the series evolve over time. what you see in the west instead is remakes that backport changes/tropes from later entries in the name of QoL
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>>721895924
Will the remake keep the party chat? That's the best feature they ever implemented in any dragon quest game.

>In the original PSX version players could speak to party members in the midst of battle, with dialogue even reflecting specific circumstances such as Ruff being hit with kasnooze or Maribel being utterly disgusted by the presence of an Ulcer. Enemies would get the drop on the party if they spent too much time chewing the fat, with a 67% chance to pounce after being used twice and a 100% chance on the third turn. This feature was removed in the Nintendo 3DS remake.
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>>721899149
The only thing that evolved were the graphics, everything else pretty much stayed the same.
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>>721899407
not true lol. being able to control your party/AI, introduction of classes, bag system, fast travel, party talk
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>>721899570
The first 3 games had some evolution to them but then it stagnated
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>>721898057
all except the Hero look fine to me
His soulles stare is really offputting
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>>721895924
I'll try it for free. Is it confirmed that the islands they supposedly took out are actually in the game, just optional?

>>721896752
>>721898127
>>721898745
Jesus. Paying for XI was my last mistake with this series. Can't believe how much has it changed.
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>>721899678
not true, the changes went all the way up to dq7/8. then it "stagnated" (but not really since we've had only 2 titles and 1 was an anniversary title and another was a multiplayer dq)
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>>721899816
Nah the changes are so minor that they might as well not exist at all, you're confusing graphical improvements with gameplay.
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>>721898902
>blaming cero
good goy
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>>721895924
Dragon Quest looks so bland.
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If they don't have vocation outfit changes I'm not buying it, simple as.
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>>721900013
yeah the japanese censorship of DQ back in 2016 was because of american wokeism.

and I say 2016 because I don't remember exactly what was censored in an earlier DQ release, but I'm pretty sure that the censorship goes as far back as 2009's DQ9.
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>>721900146
>I'm pretty sure that the censorship goes as far back as 2009's DQ9.
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>>721895924
Can I change the camera? I hate the bird's eye view.
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>>721900059
But that's the appeal, bro. Bland music, non-existent difficulty, character archetypes done to death. If you want something interesting play anything else, bro.
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I've never played DQVII, do you not control the rest of the party at all? Like not even tactics or anything? Or is it somewhat like the original Persona 3?
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>>721900489
>non-existent difficulty
kek
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>>721900489
>If you want something interesting play anything else, bro.
Welp, I guess it's time for a Koudelka and Shadow Hearts replay then.
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>>721900253
what the fuck I don't think I've ever seen 3 sword style outside of Zoro from One Piece
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>>721900517
You do control the party. There's also a tactics menu.

Dragon Quest IV had AI-controlled party.
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>>721895924
So we already now whats "cut", but is it confirmed thise islands arent in the actual game? I read they might still be there as optional content
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>>721895924
looks like shit
I don't understamd wby they felt the need to remake a game that was already remade a decade ago
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>>721900253
I was thinking of DQ4-6 DS releases, which were indeed censored.
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>>721900697
Sounds like cope
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>>721900736
because it's stuck on a console no one owns and no one can buy.
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>>721899930
That's all franchises
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>>721900917
Final Fantasy wants a word with you
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>>721900972
DQ had more mechanical/gameplay/story structure changes than ff1-9 though.
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>>721900646
Oh that's good then, but in the video posted in the OP the party members are all acting on their own, is it some sort of toggle thing then?
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>>721901294
DQ has had a "tactics" menu in combat that lets you configure AI behaviors for your party members since 1990. I assume they just have it toggled on.
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>>721901294
Yup.
I don't know why, but DQ always defaults new party members to be AI controlled. Everyone just changes it to "Follow Orders" immediately.
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>>721896551
UE saved the jap game industry
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>>721901010
No it has kept the same identical combat system throughout all the games
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>>721901420
when I first played DQ as a kid I didn't use follow orders because I presumed the ai knew better and was nervous(?) about controlling 4 characters, god that was a pain in the ass
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>>721901570
1) that's true of FF, not DQ
2) DQ XI changed its combat system from a phase-based combat system to turn-based one.
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>>721901590
ironically the AI does know better in a lot of situations, since it has access to enemy weaknesses AND can react to enemy actions mid-round, while you're stuck with your decisions. So if an enemy critically injures your healer but you had no one healing him, the AI will adjust and heal him that very same round.
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>>721895924
I'd rather not play censored slop
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4 more months till reimagined
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>>721899678
GOOD.
Change for the sake of change is how you get Final Fantasy's dumpster fire.
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What's a Slime with three eyes? Sliiime!
Cannibox do the Hustle? No, it doesn't have Defeat for it!
I'm not some sick freak! I said I beat a Mantipion!

I liked the PS1 translation
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>>721901830
I'd take a dumpster fire any day over rehashed garbage.
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>>721901937
You faggots complaining that DQ is roughly the same foundation throughout the games need to fuck off. That's why a lot of us still love the main series, it's comfy and familiar but with new stories and characters. Literally all you need.
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They cut the casino. I'm out. Forever. Seriously, fuck anyone that defends this shit.
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>why do you jump on platforms in every 2D mario?
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>>721902093
>They cut the casino.
what? source?
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>>721902002
No I refuse to keep playing the same game over and over just to 'unlock' the new story, give me new gameplay ideas so I can enjoy my time playing the game.
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>>721895924
The series died with Toriyama.
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>>721902172
go play rebirth faggot
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>>721895924
I'll miss the monster haven but not much else. Pretty hyped for this version since 7 has been my favorite for years and this feels like it has enough polish to finally overtake 8 in terms of presentation and normie visibility.
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>>721902214
trvke although his art in 9 and 11 were shit but i'd still rather have modern toriyama over the octopath zoomer artist they've been having drawing key art
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>>721898745
>>ruin all the heads because they want to distance themselves of toriyama
DQVII's characters all had big heads in the key art dude
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>>721902224
I did, the gameplay is great. Shame about what they did to the story though.
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>>721902214
I'm 90% sure DQXII is going to be Hori's last game, he keeps talking in finalities in every interview.
If that's the case, I'll play XII in honor of him. But I don't know if I'll feel up to continuing the series after that.
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>>721898745
right looks better. left looks like a bimbo whore
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>>721900794
>>721900253
DQ9 actually did censor some outfits and monsters, namely ones with big lips if I recall.
>>721900013
This image is incredibly funny, because its three wholly separate quotes tossed together to propose a narrative.
Like, when Torishima is talking, he's talking about his experiences working with America as one of Shueisha's lead staff back in the 90s/00s, and when Horii is talking, he makes it explicitly clear that he doesn't know why certain things happen and why other things happen.
Clothing censorship is almost certainly CERO though as that only existed in Japanese only titles until DQ3 2DHD, going back to around 2012 with the DQM 3DS remake.
Same with Type A/B, that was in two Japan only games before DQ3 2DHD.
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>>721902002
you haven't played dq much at all
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>>721902293
but I liked the DQ casinos :(
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>>721902093
DQ games haven't had gambling in them for ages
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>>721902628
I hate the industry's direction as much as anyone but it is what it is. They've been gutted out of Pokemon for the same reason for over a decade now. You can't gamble unless its loot boxes or chink gacha.
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>>721902697
>>721902697
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>>721902697
retard nigger the last game had it
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>>721902293
>Grondal, Providence
Probably cut because the new story will be doing something different with all the God/Goddess and demon stuff, since those two towns had a more significant focus on them.
>El Ciclo
Probably just had its mechanical significance moved to the arena.
>Casino
All ratings companies hate gambling, probably had its unique prizes integrated into the arena.
>Monster Meadows, Excellence Grading
Probably in the arena now.
>The Haven
No idea what's happening here, but I imagine it's another overhaul to the immigrant town concept as they're not cutting the islands most relevant to Immigrant Town.
>>721902817
>>721902857
That last game was released 8 years ago. Writing was on the wall that gambling was a nogo when DQ3 didn't update its casinos to match later titles, and none of the spin-offs since XI had even approached the concept.
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>>721902293
I don't think anyone will miss Grondal or Providence, but El Ciclo is one of the best islands in the game. Why the fuck would they cut it?
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>>721902159
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>>721902697
Why are you like this?
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I really hate how DQ has become a culture war battleground despite it having zero popularity or significance outside Japan.
Worst of all words. Not popular like Yakuza or Trails, so none of the games get translated, but gets all the baggage for whatever reason.
I blame Alex Jones and Elon. Oh, and people here for being retarded simpletons who spend all day on twitter and instagram.
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>>721903008
So they don't have to implement the Excellence Grading System.
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>>721902093
Fuck casinos. It's always a post-game chore grinding for equipment. Replacing them with monster arenas in 3 remake was a good decision.
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>>721903247
I'm being factual, DQXI came out in 2017. Not a single game since it released, that I can recall, had gambling, and it wasn't integrated into DQ3 (alongside the closest thing to gambling in DQ3 being cut). Casino not being in the game is among the least surprising changes.
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>>721903392
>Replacing them with a concept only accessible to 1 joke class in 3 remake was a good decision.
??
no, it wasnt
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>>721895924
Why are they fighting in featureless empty room?
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The battle arena replacing the casino is a good change. Casinos in RPGs are always maddening time wasting RNG bullshit.
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>>721902391
I think he's talking about the finality of it because of the loss of Sugiyama and Toriyama. I think he'll probably step back and contribute in a more minor capacity in the future though.
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>>721902527
That's the point. Left is sexy. Right is cringe
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>>721903508
>only accessible to 1 joke class
Maybe play the game before you try talking about it.
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Lucklets in you thread?
It's more likely than you think.
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>>721903508
What the fuck are you on about? Monster wrangler is the best early game class and has an essential end game ability you want all your party members to pick up.

On top of that, the monster arena doesn't require them. So you're DOUBLE retarded.
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>>721903637
if you abused pre-nerf monster wrangler you did not beat DQ3 remake. You are QUADRUPLE RETARDED.
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>>721903534
Why couldn't it be Pachisi instead
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>>721903547
Well yeah, that's just standard Japanese retirement.
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>>721902574
Okay tourist. I've played most of them all my life. Fuck off.
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>>721903716
Nothing I fucking said refers to the pre-nerf fucking attack damage you professional grade TRIPLE deluxe chest thumping chin chewing drool slurping FUCKING faggot ass retard.
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>>721903064
wtf
its actually a demake
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>>721903829
>Monster wrangler is the best early game class and has an essential end game ability you want all your party members to pick up.
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>>721903884
Your retardation is terminal. Find the nearest cliff and fling yourself from it.
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>>721896551
It's grim
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>>721903817
I doubt it because anyone who has played DQ wouldn't make an infinitely retarded statement such as
>DQ is roughly the same foundation throughout the games
unless you are SEVERELY retarded, but considering earlier you claimed all the evolution was in 1-3, I imagine you are just a poser.
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>>721895924
>30:00
>Best ost ever
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Is DQ the most censored franchise of all time? Us based and redpilled men need big breasts on screen at all times, and there’s no better fix than Dragon Quest. Sadly, you’re not even allowed to spank the monkey with this game. Who’s the intended audience anyway? Children? We play Dragon Quest to beat off, not for “gameplay”, am I right fellas?
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>>721903253
Maybe if the games had worthwhile stories and gameplay mechanics people would talk about that too.

>>721903954
Both in cinema and video games, for some reason, devs and directors have decided that bright and imposing colors are a no no.
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>>721895924
why does every ue5 game have that smog effect everwyhere.
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>>721898127
the animal costume is now sold as dlc
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>>721904112
>Maybe if the games had worthwhile stories and gameplay mechanics people would talk about that too.
That would require people here to play the games, which most people here haven't actually done. I'd honestly saw maybe 5 people on /v/ ever actually finished DQVII.
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>>721904061
I actually love DQ7's soundtrack. What's wrong with the town music here?
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>>721904112
You only know the good stories if you play the games, which you haven't. You're just here to shitpost and stir shit up.

"Dear Hero,

I'm still traveling with Lala and the rest of the Roamers. I don't even know how long it has been since you and I went our separate ways. Florin has yet to return. As the Guardian of the tribe, the honor of marrying Lala fell to me. If you find this, I want you to let my father know that his son has finally found his way in this world.

And, Hero, I want you to know that we are friends no matter how far we are from each other.

Your friend, Kiefer"
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>>721898767
>>removed god
wat
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>>721904235
Nothing
I was just misusing meme arrow
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>>721899013
I didn't get it when I was a kid. I used to think the same thing, but with the sheer volume of overly-complex gritty grimdark futuristic neo-sci-fi JRPGs we got throughout the 2000s, it's made me really appreciate simple games like DQ and Trails. Now I fucking love them.
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>cut content
Holy shit why is Square Enix so retarded. Never a complete edition of any game.
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>>721903253
Lefty retards forced their deranged political values on an apolitical video game franchise, and you're upset that people... reacted to it? This is so past brain rot, you've just got dust swirling around in your empty skull.
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>>721903253
>pic
Are they childhood friends?
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>>721904380
Oh. Carry on then.

... Actually, thanks for pointing out where this song was in the video. Its a nice rendition. I know this board is mostly negative about this remake but I'm thoroughly excited. It feels like a lot of love is being put into it.
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They put a lot more effort into this remake than most so I smell DLC on the horizon.

>Due to feedback we decided to bring back cut content as DLC!
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>>721904457
Wasn't Almighty a secret boss? Will they really remove him?
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>>721904258
Nah, lil nigga. The only ones I haven't played and beaten are 1, 2 and 7. I like DQ but you cannot get more basic than it. I dunno, maybe I'm just grumpy.
>spoiler
That's from 7, right? I'm gonna give it a try once it's out. All this cut content talk does not make me excited at all.
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>>721904728
If they were to do that it would be free DLC becuase they literally couldn't get away with cutting content and then selling it back as paid DLC. That only works when people don't know for certain it's cut content.
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>>721895924
>remake a game for the second time
>remove content
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>>721905296
>they literally couldn't get away with cutting content and then selling it back as paid DLC.
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For the retards that want to play this slop demake, Just don't give Kiefer your magic seeds.
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>>721905527
Name one example of a dev doing that. Go on. I'll wait.
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>>721905435
We simply don't have the technology to make that much content anymore.
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>>721895924
square enix shit the bed post 2020 so hard lol
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>>721895924
IM SO FUCKING TIRED OF THE DOF
IT DOESNT LOOK GOOD
STOP BLURRING THE ENTIRE FUCKING SCREEN
IM SO FUCKING TIRED OF THE SHITTY PLASTIC LOOKING MODELS
IT DOESNT LOOK GOOD
STOP
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>>721905292
>That's from 7, right?
yep
last line from the game, one last gut punch for the road
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>>721905569
pretty sure all the REmakes do that in some form
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>>721905920
This is the only example that is maybe kind of close but even then no not really. If you'd ever played the original separate ways you'd know they're not even close to being the same thing. Ergo not the same content cut out intentionally and sold back as DLC.
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>>721905569
Persona 3?!
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>>721898745
I can't wait for the DQ8 reimagined xisters so they remove her boobs! It's very uncomfy to look at them!
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>>721905296
Anon, I...
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>>721905720
I LOVE IT
ITS BEEN IN LIKE THREE GAMES IN THE LAST DECADE SO I'M NOT TIRED OF IT
PLEASE KEEP BLURRING HALF THE SCREEN ITS A QUAINT LITTLE EFFECT I ENJOY A LOT
I FUCKING LOVE IT ACTUALLY
IT LOOKS GREAT
CONTINUE
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>>721906050
you immediately lost lil bro dunno why you're even arguing this point
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>>721895924
bravely default 2 looking ahh game
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>>721906197
The Answer and the other example being RE4 both cases of content that was not in the original game. So no there's still not a single actual example because it has quite literally never happened.

>>721906284
>l-look I won
Anyone who needs to say they've won, hasn't.
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>2025
>DQIV PS1 STILL untranslated
i hate that ds port so fucking much
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>>721906351
Oh yeah, that happened.
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>>721906351
fucking disgusting
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I have never seen the "Diorama" graphics style done well.
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Who is this for exactly?

People like me who played DQ7 either played both the PS1 and/or the 3DS remake aren't interested because why not remake 5?

People who never played DQ7, but like other DQ games are turned off by the art style

People who never got into DQ at all will just ignore this because it looks ugly and every DQ fan will warn them it's a horrible game to start with.
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>>721904640
>Lefty retards forced their deranged political values on an apolitical video game franchise, and you're upset that people... reacted to it?
It's more that those people have no real interest in these games and are just using them as the stage for a battle that none of the fans really give a shit about.
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>>721895924
The 3ds version is still the definitive edition.
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>>721907089
People like me who are DQ fans but never played VII due to not having a PS1
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>>721906428
Why? It's objectively superior. Unless PSX has party chat.

>>721907089
For me, whose favourite dq is 7. 5 is massively overrated.
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>>721908480
the FUCKING accents
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>>721908480
Don't answer that question, I just realized you're about to shit on the translation.
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>>721907089
why not just make a new fucking game instead of "remaking" the same shit 3 times but shitting on it more and more with each attempt
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If this game doesn't have job outfits, it's lazy cashgrab slop and I won't buy it. At least not without a big sale.
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looks like shit
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>>721906351
The game was good but these character models were terrible.
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Looks great
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I like how everyone was saying female warrior pants ruined her design and they disrespect Toriyama right after he dies.

Surely they, as big DQ fans, know that the female warrior got updated with pants added in the DQM1 3DS remake that never released outside Japan back in 2013
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looks mid
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>Square enix remakes
>The same shit but less
T-Thanks
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>>721908614
You realize DQ games have been getting remade since before you were born right
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Cutting content is where I draw the line. Dragon Quest 7 is suppose to be the 100 hour long JRPG. That is the only thing going for it. If you don't have time for it, go play Dustborn or some other garbage.
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>>721903064
Pros:
Maribel romance confirmed
Cons:
No sexy outfit for Maribel
Sad
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>>721903064
>Let's remove a lot of gameplay and give chuds some texts and cgi slop with burka maribel so they buy our game.
Just play the previous dq7s and look at boorus. fuck this game and fuck you guys if you fall for this shit.
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>>721895924
really dont like the washed out more modern look. dragonquest needs to be bright and colorful. its a whimsical fantasy game not final faggotry
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>>721911509
this, DQ7's entire thing is being the OG long ass JRPG. if you remove the length, then wtf is DQ7 anymore
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>>721903064
>immigrant town cut
b-based?
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>>721906351
Im still seething the game looked nowhere near to second's intro cinematic
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>>721911509
>>721912746
>decades of complaining that DQ7 is an unplayably long and boring game
>address the core complaint
>now that thing everyone hated is actually good
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>>721914174
But I liked it.
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>>721914174
Fags that complain most likely didn't play or complete DQ7
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>>721896752
That looks so uncanny.
Horrible.
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>>721895924
>4 niggas in a row
K I N O
I
N
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>>721914395
Most people didn't play DQVII.
It's why these threads are funny, it is statistically improbable that so many people have played DQVII.
>inb4 emulation
It's still the least popular JRPG of note on the PSX and 3DS.
>inb4 relative to DQ
It's among the least popular DQ games outside Japan as well. I had seen all of about zero threads for the game on /v/, and even back when the 3DS remake was new most threads were just complaints about how it didn't seem like the DQ8 remake would come out in English.
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>>721915143
And that's a good thing. Being popular just ruins things.
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>>721915309
My point is that the hundreds of people posting in these threads saying that they're oldfags who always loved DQVII can't fucking exist.
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>>721915358
>I don't exist
proof?
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>>721915143
>It's still the least popular JRPG of note on the PSX and 3DS.
Bait used to be believable
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>>721898767
>kiefer
thats really gay.
isnt the girl supposed to be his descendant? it was such a cool and unique moment.
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>>721915143
>localize nes DQs with years delays
>dont localize snes DQs
>decide to localize VII for some reason after a decade of overseas negligence
>release it in 2001 for ps1
omg why didnt it sell?? must be because the game sucks! (it does but that's LEAST of its problems)
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>>721916539
digimon world came out on 2002/2003 and it sold despite being a grindfest. no excuses :^)
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>>721916070
It is, yeah.
When people talk about PSX and 3DS JRPGs, do you really think DQVII is anywhere near the front of their mind?
It's actually
>Final Fantasy 7-9
>Final Fantasy Tactics
>Chrono Cross
>Xenogears
>Grandia
>Suikoden 1&2
>BoF3
>Parasite Eve
>Mario & Luigi
>Pokemon
>Fire Emblem
>SMT4
>Bravely Default
Shit like that. I even went through a bunch of those "Best PS1 RPGs" lists just to see if maybe I am wrong, maybe there is some big Earthbound fanbase around this game nobody talks about, and DQ7 appeared a grand total of two times, and both times 3DS images were used.
>>721916539
>localize nes DQs with years delays
Irrelevant as knowledge of Japanese release dates was less widespread back then. Also, FF did that and was extremely successful.
>dont localize snes DQs
There was only two major ones and one of them is widely considered the worst DQ game while the other looked like an NES game, so no big loss in terms of notoriety.
>decide to localize VII for some reason after a decade of overseas negligence
Not really a decade, and again, Final Fantasy skipped from 3 to 7.
>release it in 2001 for ps1
Many people were still using the PS1. People just didn't care.
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>>721917425
This game looks fucking incredible its such a damn shame its kind of a slog to play.
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>>721915358
3ds wasn't that hard to have also fuck you for trying to sound smart when you are actually retarded.
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dragon ball looking ahh
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>>721918094
BASED

I kneel
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>>721917958
you can skip the grind and make it bearable easily at least
>ps: play digimon world 2003. there's a 60 fps patch. the US version was rushed as a movie tie-in and is incomplete
>pour all exp into 1 mon
>get your eldorado ID and buy equips at asuka's heavy armory asap
>go into the gym periodically, prioritize speed (extra turns, evasion, accuracy). casters use wis(evasion and accuracy (for spells and status effects)) and spr(attack power and def)
>kunemon at the park til lv 3~4 ->betamon/vegiemon at plug cape til lv 7 -> triceramon at plug cape's ramp til lv 9 -> go to heavy armory -> coelamon til lv 12~13 at plug cape's beach -> divermon til lv 20 -> purple numemon til lv 28~29 at jungle shrine -> fish for pink ebidramon until endgame at amaterasu wire forest
>no random encounters code. r1+down to initiate a battle. ps: there are 3 spots in the game that force battles always even with the code on
>when you get to amaterasu, head straight to the AM mirage tower and get the best equips
gets down the grind handily, but it will do nothing about the liquid dogshit that is circuit board (mazes of copy-pasted rooms without a map. maps with secrets have basically 0 signage or directions)
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>>721918094
>3ds wasn't that hard to have
Yeah, I know.
My point was that the game didn't sell well. It's statistically improbable for so many people to have DQVII as a deeply nostalgic and formative game (that never got discussed on /v/ coincidentally) when combined with known sales data.
No paper near me, so my Chinese GBA DQ1-3&M1+2 cart will have to do as 'proof' that this is real and mine.
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>>721902306
bro can't even tell the difference between toriyama's art and a copycat and has the gall to say his post trvke
that's funny shit
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>>721906425
>Anyone who needs to say they've won, hasn't.
>the loser has to agree that he lost
that's retarded. I'm not the guy you replied to btw. But that's so retarded. He won.
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>>721917471
>Irrelevant as knowledge of Japanese release dates was less widespread back then.
yes, dragon quest 4 releasing for nes in 1992 is totally irrelevant.
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>>721906425
you lost btw
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>>721895924
Looks amazing but the battle theme is shit and the boss 2.. Not playing till I can Mod the music from the other games
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>>721918950
DQ7 was my first DQ game and probably true for other millennials.
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>>721920247
Lol
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>>721920610
My boy found some gypsy puss.
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>>721903534
DQVIII had both, tho. Picking one it's not necessary, it's a downgrade
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>>721919879
In 1992, the following released in North America:
>Mega Man 4
>McKids
>Terminator 2
>Dragon Warrior III (yeah)
>Yoshi
>Mega Man 5
Among several others. Doesn't sound like a huge year but I mostly just chose games that were known successes or franchise titles alongside DQ3.
>>721920247
It's not. The millennial DQs are 8 and 11 (before anyone says 11 is a zoomer DQ, the oldest zoomers at the time were like 20).
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>>721900972
>>can't help but out himself as a FF faggot
Every time.
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>>721917471
DQVII sold more than 95% of the games you mentioned.
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>>721898767
>kiefer
What? How is that even gonna work?
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>>721921025
DQ7 released on PS1 when PS2 was coming out.
Is AI retarded?
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>>721895924
I'm really glad games like this are still being made in the midst of an ocean of chink phone shit.
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>>721921194
-in Japan.
DQVII on PSX outside Japan sold 177,147 units. We have an exact number on that. For comparison, using only overseas numbers (no Japan):
>Final Fantasy VII
10,000,000~
>VIII's Demo
198,715
>VIII
4,900,000
>IX
2,640,000
>Tactics
1,110,000
>Chrono Cross
1,500,000 "overall"
>Xenogears
280,000
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>>721921325
What AI even gave you this result?
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>>721921481
Bing, I might as well get rewarded for selling my info to the botnet.
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>>721898745
why don't they cel shade them
looks like absolute ass without the lines
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>>721915143
People pirating games are always 2~3x bigger than the actual sales, so you're wrong. That's why Chrono Trigger is the most normie thing ever, despite selling only 5 million copies.
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>>721921463
>>in Japan
Do you think japanese people don't have access to internet? lmao
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>>721921463
>Shifting the goalpost
you lost
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>>721921598
And generally people pirate the more popular games.
Using one of the most popular romhosting websites that lets you examine states, here is what we can see are the most popular to pirate PSX RPGs, in order
>1. Final Fantasy VII
>2. Final Fantasy IX
>3. Final Fantasy VIII
>4. Chrono Cross
>5. Xenogears
>6. The Legend of Dragoon
>7. Tales of Phantasia
>8. Valkyrie Profile
>9. Breath of Fire IV
>10. Persona 2 - Innocent Sin
>11. Digimon World
>12. Breath of Fire 3
>13. Suikoden 2
>14. Diablo
>15. Breath of Fire 4 (Uncensored Patch)
>16. Shin Megami Tensei
>17. Digimon World 3
>18. Suikoden 2 (Bugfix)
>19. Dragon Warrior VII
So yeah, it's not that popular over there either.
>>721921815
The chances of someone who grew up and lived in Japan posting here are astronomically low.
>>721921907
The point was always that the potential of all these English language fans existing was incredibly low and DQ7 isn't popular outside Japan.
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>>721896551
bad art direction isnt the fault of unreal engine
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>>721898745
SE don’t deserve any my money
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>My 3ds DQ7 and DQ8 still boot just fine
I have no idea how to change party members anymore but it seems my saves are fine. Why retards were saying you would lose 3ds save files?
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>>721922101
None of the games you mentioned got a full revamped remake, why anyone would emulate the ugly PS1 version in the last 10 years when the 3DS version one exists?
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>>721906212
Give her a ballsack, than we all good.
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>>721895924
Yep, still looks cool
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>>721921598
>>721922101
And here's some more fun with numbers on the piracy sites:
>NES
35. Dragon Quest (English Patched)
Rest of the series was forcibly delisted at some point.
>GBC
12. Dragon Warrior III
17. Dragon Warrior I&II
25. Dragon Warrior Monsters
30. Dragon Warrior Monsters (Delocalized)
31. Dragon Warrior Monsters 2 Ultimate (Hack)
33. Dragon Warrior Monsters 2: Cobi's Journey
38. Dragon Warrior Monsters 2: Tara's Adventure
>SNES/SFC
2. Dragon Quest III (English Patches)
4. Dragon Quest I&II (English Patched)
9. Dragon Quest V (English Patched)
14. Dragon Quest VI (English Patched)
>PS2
7. Dragon Quest 8
19. Dragon Quest 5 (English Patched)
21. Dragon Quest 8 (EU)
>DS
17. Dragon Quest IX
33. Dragon Quest V
39. Dragon Quest VI
43. Dragon Quest IV
44. Dragon Quest IV (English Patched)
89. Dragon Quest Monsters Joker 2
100. Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker
105. Dragon Quest IV (Party Chat Patch)

Even among other pirated DQ games, DQVII is notably given less attention (keep in mind DS numbers are skewed heavily due to the high Pokemon and Pokemon hack presence).
>>721922707
The average person is more generally inclined to pirate PSX games than 3DS games, and since 3DS roms aren't as widespread, I'll use the most popular game logging site to determine DQVII 3DS' popularity, and over there it placed at 51 (after I had removed the many 3DS eshop emulated titles), lower in popularity than Strange Journey Redux and fucking Yo-Kai Watch.
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ki bump
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The PS1 version is like playing with a calculator. New version has cool animations, VAs and actual third person combat, three shitty islands and a monster zoo will never be beat it.
Monster Heart was a trash mechanic, too.
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>>721924923
Or...you could be like the 3DS version and have everything PLUS different visuals for the vocations.
Why would I pay for a worse version with less content than the previous one?
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>>721925161
This. The 3DS version was the perfect version of DQ7. Why the fuck would you pay full price for a LESSER experience?



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