Battle of the hack writers: Ryukishi07 vs. Yoko Taro
i have heard of yoko taro so i guess he would be the bigger hack
Both are based and have beautiful iconic characters,you are fag.If you want to argue post the last thing you wrote that wasn't a 4chan shitpost mister,non hack epic writer
>>721899616Ryukishi07 wrote Silent Hill f’s story.
>Good Taro productsDrakengard 1, Drakengard 3, Thou Shalt Not Die manga>Good Ryukishi productsHigurashiTaro wins
>>721900008>>Good Taro products>Drakengard 1HAHAHAHAHHAAHA
>>721900008>Drakengard 3Shit taste as usual.
>>721900008>higutard has shit tasteWhy am I not surprised? Umineko and RGD shit all over Higurashi.
>>721899563Uchikoshi still finds a way to sweep the competition.
>>721900320RGD > Higanbana > Ciconia > power gap > umineko > higurashi > that one vn I forgot name of with the several generations of NTR that ryukishit wrote
>>7218995632B is more popular, default yoko taro win
>>721900401>3D modeler for Pepsiman on the PS1.He gets a pass.
>>721899563Did yoko do the first nier? That game was garbage and the IGN review was accurate. Didn't play any of the other nier games after that one because it was so shit.
There's a 100% chance nobody ITT has read a book since high school but you want to feel like a big boy and critique writting and probably shit on Japan while you're at it
>>721899563R07 is hackier. Funnily enough SHF is the only time I can think of where he didn't fuck up his own story by the end; maybe I am getting Stockholm syndrome'd since it was somehow his most cohesive piece of writing, though. Fucked up Higurashi, fucked up Umineko right at the end, blew Lucia's route in Rewrite and then later somehow got hired again by Key to write Loopers which was bad.If Yoko Taro wrote VNs he'd do noticably better, all of his games suck to actually play but the writing is alright.
>>721900495You're thinking of Iwaihime. The more you read the worse it gets.
>>721900910>The more you read the worse it gets.I know anon, I know
>>721900830>writing is alright>every single of the games is nihilistic cry porn>ooooo naming Nier bosses after famous philosophers, so deep
>>721900008>drakengard 3Impeccable taste as always
>>721899563The ascended tatsuya izumi>makes niche within a niche games>stories are about neet women getting beaten and battered>subject matter is too complex for a normalfag to understand>content is too gruesome for a normalfag to stomach>has lesbians and trans people but portrays them as objectively horrible people instead of using them as a shield>has Emi Evans beg to sing on his games>stories ALWAYS end on a happy note no matter what happens>NEVER leaves loose ends in the main story only meta narrative threadsToo strong for the average Japanese hack.
>>721899563taro doesnt write
>>721901248Thought for a second you typed “jeet women getting beaten and battered”.
>>721899563>game companies that Taro saved from extinctionPlatinum>game companies that Ryukishi07 doomed with his shit writingKonami
>>721899563Who is the biggest and smallest hack among:>ryukishi07>uchikoshi>kodaka>nasu>jun maeda>urobutcher>kojimbo>nomura>sakaguchi>yoko taro
>>721901695>BiggestYuko Taro>SmallestSakaguchi
>>721900008Drakengard 1 is a dogshit game with the shit graphics and gameplay so awful that the worst muso games are masterpieces next to it.
>>721899563when will OP stop sucking cocks?
>>721901489Platinum didn't earn anything from Nier. They got paid only a contractual amount with no bonuses for copies sold.
>All these people sorted by Drakengard 1lol. lmao and keke.
>>721901943They wouldve gone bankrupt years ago, the publicity from Nier saved them even though they're a zombie studio nowPeople forget W101 and Scalebound's failures ruined Platinum for the forseeable future, 2014-2017 was their dark times, just having a successful game did wonders
>>721902379>make your game shitty & annoying on purpose>omg you’re so deep taro-sama
>>721902379I got all endings. the game is one of the most bland, boring, piss easy, and generic piles of shit i've ever played.
Today I will remind them that part one of ciconia came out SIX years ago and he has no plans to finish it
>>721899563I'll never forgive Hackishi for abandoning Ciconia and ruining Higurashi with SotsuGou only because Pachinkonami paycheck was more important.
>>721902761Reminder that he lied through his teeth about the reasons for refusing to finish it, too.
>>721902761Ryukishi isn't the sole reason I hate episodic releases, but he's a big part of it.
The holy trinity of hacks.
>>721902895>he lied through his teeth about the reasons for refusing to finish itidk, his first game was already ultra close to reality, I could belive he wrote chinkflu plot before it happened irl
>>721900008>Thou Shalt Not Die mangaExplain. How is that in any way good
>>721902916Kojimbo's writing is a million times worse than the other two.
>>721900830Yoko Taro didn't even write most of "his" games. That was Sawako Natori.
Swery and it's not even a contest.
>>721900008Nier is better than D3 for the sole fact that HALF OF THE FUCKING GAME WAS WRITTEN OFF GAME!!!!Zero is a non-character within her own game outside being a tsundere slut, all her characterization comes from side material.But yeah, Taro wins.
>>721903352Nier is missing two and a half routes dude. It's his most unfinished game by far.
>>721901695Why is Maeda here? he might have fallen since Angel beats, but he's far from a hack.
>>721899563Yoko Taro is stronger and wears protection gear; Ryukishi07 is weak but has an army of literal trannies to protect him.Difficult choice
Over a decade later and /v/ is still filtered by Drakengard 3.
>>721902978I believe him that there was supposed to be a virus pandemic in Phase 2 because that's what Evil Miyao says will happen and the end of Phase 1. I just refuse to believe that someone who wrote the "stove accident" scene is afraid of upsetting anyone's sensibilities AND he had to have been already hired by Konami at that point because games take long time to make and Silent HIll f just came out recently. Then when the coof ended he went radio silent for a while, until the war in Ukraine started. Then he said "I can't write about war when there's a war going on," even though Phase 1 was released during the Syrian Civil War and Ukraine isn't any closer to his own country.
>>721903486at least Nier's routes are consistent and are just complementary scenarios, D3 outside ending E is a bunch of "What if" scenarios with no real correlation with the main route, and EVEN THERE ending E starts off iffy territory
>>721900830>fucked up Umineko right at the endyou mean right in the middle
>>721902916Kojimbo also has Boktai.
>>721899563The biggest hack is Chiyomaru with Science Adventure. Steins;Gate is the only half decent thing that he wrote and it's overrated.
>>721902916Miyazaki is barely involved compared to the other 2.
>>721904136Okay then smart guy why don't you tell me exactly when you think Umineko went off the rails. Give me the exact moment and I'll explain why you're wrong.
>>721903494he writes the same story everytime
>>721904314Anon is a faggot.
>>721900008Why not list the games that taro is actually credited as a writer for?
>>721904314SG is better than 99% of visual novels.
>>721903963I have no idea what you mean by stove accident. Chink flu was pretty widespread including conspiracy shit, zigger/hohol war is way more shilled than syria war too.
>>721904468this, chaos;head was way better than sg
>>721904754C;H doesn't even come close. The protag sucks and isn't likable at all.
>>721905048lol so randum science man isn't likable unless you are 12
>>721904674>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCNMwO_g7PE&t=4147sDon't talk to me if you didn't read RGD.
>>721906156I read RGD, idk why you remember a random scene about subjective history from it. I don't think it's in any way close to writing a fictional story about a global conspiracy making a virus in a lab literally at the same time that happens irl
>>721900083Drakengard 1 is great. Its soundtrack alone mogs every single videogame in existence.
>>721901024>nihilistic cry pornnormie got filtered hard huh
>>721906819The Western equivalent of that scene would be some German killing Jews ON ACCIDENT and then being kidnapped together with his daughter who's forced by the Jews to become a prostitute and then an assassin, but sure.
>>721900401>Zero Escape999 is the hands down the most disappointing game I've ever played.
>>721908435shit taste
>>721907391I filtered shit out of my life, yes.
>>721909497How many titles have you watched?
>>721910376nier automata story was garbo philosophy fag shit but the rest of his games stories were fucking fantastic, especially drakengard 1 and nier replicant. you rarely get to play a game with an asshole protagonist who thinks hes doing good
>>721910981> you rarely get to play a game with an asshole protagonist who thinks hes doing goodBecause why would you want to?
>>721899563neir automata would be a 10/10 game if there was no 9s hacking bullshitits like a 9.5 i need to go back and finish itim stuck on the very last 9s part and never went back
>>721902916dark souls 1 was good + demon souls 3 is ok er is ok i guess but too wokemgs 1-4 seem ok i guess but too stupidkojima is an actual hack and probably not even the original personneir automata was goodno idea what people see in death stranding 1/2 lol same with all the shit normies playspiderman 2 god of war 2018 etcits just all the gayest fucking shit that would have been rightfully made fun of and sold nothing in 2005.
>>721911319Automata would just from 3/10 to a 10/10 if the combat wasn’t so brain dead mashy and if R2’s iframes weren’t so fucking lenient.
>>721911562lmfao shit taste "anon"maybe get better taste and stop jerking off to furry porn playing five nights at freddies and maybe the best jrpg combat in years wont be a "3/10"
>>721900830he didn't fuck up ciconiabecause he's never gonna finish it
>>721904381When the baby was thrown off the cliff:^)
>>721899563>Drakengard 1/3>Nier>Higurashi>UminekoThey're not very productive. R07 is hacker because Ciconia flopped hard despite being new main game.
>>721911896>I can spam healing chips from my real time sub menu and never die>I can spam r2 without any precision to initiate slow down against any attack in the game.>I can spam hacking over and over again as 9s to avoid combat completely.>I can blow through everything in the game by just pressing light attack with no strategy.What an amazing JRPG combat system. I’m fully convinced, anon. Wow.
Fucking falseflag retards.Both Higurashi and Umineko are great in their own ways.
>literal who vs acclaimed video game directorjeee i wonder
>>721913009Ironically, most of the thread is talking about that literal who’s work.
>>721913425lollmao
>>721904373I don't know what you mean by compared.Miyazaki is heavily involved with the game development. Even the va's talk about how he's very specific and precise on how they should deliver lines. He decided how a shot will look. I'm pretty sure he wrote all the item descriptions for Dark Souls
>>721899563Taro is way better, it's not even close. He's a hack but not nearly on the level of Ryukishi07
>>721911229its fun you faggot, god you don't like anything do you?
>>721902916Kojima wasn't a hack when technology was limiting him. Dark Souls and Demon's Souls are the best games listed here, but the sin of butchering the original formula is imo the worst.
>>721899563Yoko Taro knows only two tricks - misery porn and existentialism. That's it.
>>721917167At least he writes less cringe dialogue and stories for a Jap.
>>721917167So what? tired of your faggy optimistic views shoved down my throat all the time in games. I like a little melancholy. Not some faggot happy gay games you play all the time
>>721917312No, she writes the same story, over and over again, dozens of times within each game. They all have the same beats, all the same miserable outcome, and all the same twist (if one is present). His world-building is absolutely atrocious. Characters don't act like humans, but parodies with their flaws blown out of proportion to the point of parody. 95% of the various characters' issues would be solved by sitting down and asking basic bitch questions.
>>721917519>characters don't act human when they show bad traits even though bad traits are very human-likeshut up fag, you keep humans can only be good and positive, no they can be horrible! and i want the reality and brutality of human, i fucking love Caim and his sociopathic tendencies
>>721917519Iteration is fine if you work with familiar territory. Most great authors and directors do it. Show me a Jap writer who doesn't overexaggerate their characters.
>>721917927>Iteration is fine if you work with familiar territory.It's not iteration, it's repetition. You know the outcome of each and every story he's written from page 1, because the man is physically incapable of doing anything else than misery porn.
>>721917167>Yoko Taro only knows how to write a realistic story instead of always happy go lucky garbage that gets pushed out by Hollywood Oh no
>>721899563Taro would lose because some of his games are actually good
>>721918253>Yoko Taro>RealisticNow you HAVE to be trolling.
>>721906964holy contrarian. if you really think dod is that good post game time or save otherwise you're just another youtube watching faggot
>>721899563Taro is a good writer and is also not a pretentious faggot who seethes at his fans. He's just an otaku who likes to have fun R07 acts like he wrote the peak of the mystery genre, Taro says all of his stories are shit
>>721900083>>721920184r07 troon
>>721918367>pedos>incest fuckers>sociopaths>baby killers>mass murderers>trans womanyep none of that is realistic at all i'm afraid, yoko taro such a heckin hackrino ain't he?
>>721904314Chiyomaru is not the writer. The only sciadv entry that he himself has written is O;N
>>721910623You play video games not watch them, nigger. I played 999.
>>721920810>DOD is bad THEREFORE I must like SH f or r07retard learn how to read or kys at your earliest convenience but I wouldn't expect it from a drakenTARD
>>721900008>Drakengard 1, Drakengard 3,1 is an interesting story with shit gameplay3 is a shitpost with some decent gameplay.
Higurashi 1-3 are far better than anything Yoko wrote. Yoko's games are more carried by their music anyway. If you judge by average rather than peak quality then it becomes trickier however.
>>721901695Where’s Takahashi? Biggest there is probably uchikoshi, 999 was mediocre as all hell.