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Now I attach swiftboots to my Jump Cactuar. And declare him as an attacker. Your move /v/
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>>721908810
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B5w18dmbUI
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>>721908810
MtG is dead
>The unannounced set has leaked to be TMNT
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Path to exile
search your library for a land. bro thinks i have no interaction
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>>721908810
>Doesn't have trample....
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>>721909038
boom
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>>721908810
Not so fast, slick. Go for the Throat before he got the boots attached.
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>>721908810
>he thinks the game will last long enough to get swiftboots onto a 5gg
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>>721908810
go ahead and hit face
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>>721909453
It will if we're being forced to play commander
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>>721909690
well then his awesome 'combo' is halfway into his deck
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>>721908810
That's just casual slop, no competitive match lasts long enough for you to resolve that and then fling or swing with it. When you only have 20 hp, this lil nigga does the same thing except way more terrifying.
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>>721909258
>6 fucking mana
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Rate my custom commander bros, i'm about to send her to the printer unless i hear some more fun ideas for her.
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>>721910776
that's cool and all but your card is banned
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>>721911580
Read the card you retard
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>>721910776
Nobody cares about standard, many stores don't even run it anymore.
Magic is EDH now.
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>>721908810
I don't play any card games, but these FF cards are cool. There are a few I'd like to own just as art.
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>>721911598
I don't know that character at all, so I have no idea if her abilities make sense. At least it's a simple effect, there's probably something busted you can do with it
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>>721908810
I cast murder or whatever other instants out of the dozens there are to deal with creatures without hex
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>>721911829
You should get the few of the ones you like and build a commander deck with them, it's legit a good time.
t. also got into it with FF after being very skeptical before
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>>721911689
i dont think you understand anything
you arent going to have guy on onboard to reduce that cost playing a real opponent
you'll have needed to already played your cactuar last turn or use even MORE mana on something to give it haste THAT turn and that is already 7 mana for cactuar, 2+ for the haste, and now AT MINIMUM 2 more fucking red mana in an ideal scenario if you somehow have enough dudes to reduce the generic to 0
cactuar is not lasting a turn on the board against an non-ai opponent actually playing a real deck

stop posting bronze tier pet deck strategies
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>>721908810
>play FF8
>do the whole long as scene with Squall and Rinoa in space
>get access to the airship
>land on some tiny island to save
>battle right away
>Jumbo Cactuar
>shits on my party
>last save was over 4 hours ago
>put down FF8 for the next 14 years
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>>721908973
>lil bro is upset his favourite franchise didn't get a UB
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>>721912070
I have no idea what this conversation is about I just thought you're silly for calling it a 6 mana card, especially in RG where it's super easy to shit out tons of creatures at any point in the game
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>>721912047
Nah, I'm a total shut-in. I mostly just want the Tonberry and Cactuar cards. I just looked them up, and they are cheap ones, so that's cool for me.
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>>721909615
I don't know enough about the rules to know if both players losing means both players win, or if this card is the only legit way to achieve a draw, or if such a thing is even possible so you just sit there staring at each other until someone forfeits
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>>721908810
I declare no blockers and cast New Way Forward.
The damage is redirected at you killing you and making me draw 10,000 cards killing me.
Good game.
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>>721912580
>thinks this would allow a draw
read the words carefully and think hard about how silly that sounds
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>>721911967
The effect actually existed already, it's pretty good but nothing like totally gamebreaking in commander.
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>>721908810
I block with Screaming Nemesis.
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>>721911829
>>721912047
I built two weak standard decks only with FF set cards, there's a lot of cheap ones. One is a pile of job select equipments, the hero tokens are cool
The other is all the 4 mana casting payoffs like Shantotto and Ultros.
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>>721912857
Pretty sure you'd lose first anyway if he puts tramble on the cactuar since Nemesis' effect would just go on the stack
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>>721912580
In a worst/best case scenario, you just play out until your opponent eventually decks himself and loses.
There was a troll deck in Standard that would do this with Platinum. I forget exactly how it worked, but you ended up turning the Platinum Angel into a land, then making the land hexproof. This made it 100% impossible for you to lose the game. I pulled it off a couple of times in MTG:A and was highly amused; one dude refused to concede and smashed my life down to over -1000 before finally decking out.
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>>721912990
Just cast one of those magic cylinder equivalents. Almost got btfo by one of these the other day
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Final Fantasy is the only good UB set to date. Actually unreal how bad UB has been. standard hasnt been much better
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>>721912580
>play platinum angel
>refuse to pass my turn
>judge can't make me forfeit because i can't lose
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>>721912151
>>lil bro is upset his favourite fran-ACK!
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>>721913161
bend over fag, ill give you my magic cylinder
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>>721908810
Cactuar from FF looks like a badly drawn swastika kek
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>>721913357
unironic intent
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>>721912126
best time to pick it up is now
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You all need to calm down and gain 3 life
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The funniest thing about this spoiler was finding out fling believers still exist and earnestly thinking it would be broken.
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>>721911761
I don't like EDH, it's full of casuals who get mad if you interrupt their battlecruiser larp. They're the equivalent of the casuals in rts games who just want to turtle up and tech to the big flashy units and get mad if you force them to interact before they're ready.
I get why it's popular, but it just isn't for me, I'm a 1v1 compfag.
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>>721914052
It's commanderslop
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>>721909038
There's dozens of ways for green decks to apply trample
>inb4 hurr durr list them then
Something as self-evident as "green likes trample" should not need examples. You could pick a green card at random from a pile and chances are it will either have trample directly, or apply it to other creatures.

>>721911580
>>721912070
>you aren't going to have guys on the board to reduce that cost playing a real opponent
red/green is THE "pop out metric tons of 1/0 or 1/1 creatures" deck, what are you talking about. Even if your opponent wipes the board the previous turn, it's so easy to pop out another 4 of them in one turn. That card isn't even a good example, cactaur already has fucking 9999 attack so we dont care about the 1/1 or double strike, we just want the trample and haste so cards that just applies those would be better and cheaper mana cost. I'm not going out of my way to give examples because again, trample and haste are core abilities of green and red respectively, you could pick a card out of a red/green deck at random and it will probably have one or both of those abilities.
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Tourist here, what are some ways to cheat/work around the +2 mana tax every time you resummon a commander? There must be some.
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>>721914224
>That flavor text
So the nigger as an assistant? How is he supposed to be "better" than Peter again?
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>>721915159
Command beacon
That's literally it.
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>>721915159
If you bounce your commander into your hand before they're about to die you can cast them from your hand for the base cost.
You could also let them go to the grave and reanimate, but if they get banished from there before you do that you're screwed because they won't go into the command zone.
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>>721912151
My favorite franchise is Avatar.
Doesn't matter. UB is fucking cringe.
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>>721915159
I usually play black and just reanimate my commander from the grave
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>>721914371
>red/green is THE "pop out metric tons of 1/0 or 1/1 creatures" deck
No it isn't lmao, mono-red and green have one or two archetypes that pop out a bajillion weenies but they don't synergize with each other at all, and if you're going that route, Craterhoof will hand you the game far more frequently than a single cactus with trample
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>>721915431
>1BR
>frame is just black
Stopped reading right there. Up your shitty CAC game, retard.
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>>721908810
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>>721915296
yes they will, you can return a commander to the command zone whenever it changes zones, including from graveyard to exile
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>>721915698
Why are you lying? you read it all till the very end
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>>721915296
Not true. Relevant ruling CR903.9.
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>>721915783
I didn't.
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>>721908810
insta kills still go on the stack when trying to equip a creature. the moment you use equip, on the stack insta kill/exile. your opponent gets priority in deciding if they add onto the stack, so you can just quickly say it and do it.
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>>721912151
My favorite franchise is Magic.
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>>721915824
sure buddy
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>>721915794
>>721915765
My bad i misremembered, sorry.
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>>721915858
My deepest condolences.
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Is Magic exclusively an American thing? Everyone else I know prefers Yugioh
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>>721916532
It use to be big in Japan then Duel Monsters came out which ironically creates to promote magic
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>>721914224
no way thats real
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>>721916532
yugioh is gay so makes sense why everyone you know likes it
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>>721916532
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>>721908810
I get you canceled for playing a card with a nazi dogwhistle on it. I win.
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>>721912070
Wowie look at mr big dick giga chad here flexing is mtg knowledge lmao
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>>721913307
Must be fun being completely retarded.
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>>721916984
yeah mtg fans have a lot of fun
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>>721916984
You seem upset
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>>721911598
What's sad was I didn't read the post at first and thought Wizards announced a Genshin Impact secret lair. I hate this fucking Fortnite era in Magic.
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POST YOUR PET CARD /v/
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>9999 / 0 = 0

This fucking card is useless.
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>>721917172
That would be too based, you're getting Söy Trek and Spidergoy you'll buy it.
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>>721916807
the whites aren't even trying
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>>721917237
My first ever rare and to this i have a soft spot for him.
He's Progenitus as a tiny artifact creature! What's not to love?
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>>721917076
MTG has had for a very long time a certain, surprisingly large portion of the player base that is somehow convinced they are huge experts on it and act very smug when talking about magic online. Every single one of them is convinced they are basically an authority on the subject
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>>721908973
Reality Fracture is going to be the set where UB becomes canon in MTG's lore and from then on all of the characters only hop through the franchise of the month like it's Kingdom Hearts.
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>>721917467
And 75% of them play just commander, the most casual format there is
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>>721917490
On that note. Imagive the IP nightmare trying to get the actually kingdom hearts into UB
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>>721908810
Nothing personal kid
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>>721917679
Hexproof doesnt stop that?
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>>721917749
It doesn't target creatures
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>>721917237
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>>721917581
As long as everyone is playing to win commander is legitimately fun
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>>721917945
the only honest commander players are those who don't recoil at the cEDH moniker
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>>721918456
there's a difference between playing to win and CEDH
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Post your fav token
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>>721908810
I don't play baby games and I've banned Universes Beyond post-2024 from any game I play, your move kiddo.
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>>721908810
I cast inkshield, creating 10000 2/1 flyer inkling tokens. My turn?
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>>721917945
>As long as everyone is playing to win commander is legitimately fun
then you are just playing legacy's handicapped brother
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>>721918550
prove me true some more
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>>721917945
>As long as everyone is playing to win commander is legitimately fun
Wrong, as long as everyone is on the same page about what to play for, it's fun
To win? To fuck around? To try out decks? To just spend random time together? As long as everyone is on the same page, it's good
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>>721914224
>guy in chair can kill this and live
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>>721918776
>prove me true
oh it's some ESL turdie, that explains a lot
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>>721919070
Yes that is what we're at now
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>>721908810
see ya, chump.
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>>721919245
Not so fast.
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>>721917337
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>>721917650
>Magic gets the KH crossover before the Disney card game
Now that would be damn funny, I agree.
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>>721917237
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>hate commander but put up with it because commander only friends
>try to get commander only friends into constructed
>offer to do all the work assembling the decks of a bygone standard format so they can see what it's like to play with 60 cards in a 1v1
>they refuse every time
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>>721919070
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>>721919742
>40x land
>4x of a couple of samespells
holy fucking snore…..
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>>721919742
Commanderfags don't like magic, they just like socializing and use this abortion of a format as an excuse to get together.
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>>721919742
i played commander for one night with friends and it was objectively so much worse than normal magic that i can't comprehend how this format started.
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>>721919935
>40x land
Wrong out of the gate, retard.
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>>721917237
my first rare ever, and big number cool.
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who cares, you don't need to use those cards. Wait, why are you using this cards against me? Dwight Shrute is just a reskin for a normal card? No...no... Now I am seeing the cards I swear I would never see. m-my logical fallacy proven wrong NO, THIS CANNOT BE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA SAVE ME GEO GODS
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>>721908810
You died 4 turns ago.
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>>721919974
some people wanted to play around with their vast piles of old jank, and other players saw it as an opportunity to play an eternal kitchen table multiplayer format without the autism of Legacy or Modern

Wizards saw this and thought "how can we monetize this" and everything went to shit
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>>721919474
thanks for the card draw
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>>721918976
>As long as everyone is on the same page, it's good
Let's ignore the tautology. Good luck trying to get the commander-only crybully at your table to understand that it's not "unfair" "unfun" "badfeels" "against the spirit of the format" to run something which shuts down green ramp before it shits out a nightmare boardstate of +100/+100s or quadratic token doubling.
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>>721908810
The rest of us scoop because we have nothing to prevent the inevitable burn effect you plan to use to kill everyone at instant speed.

Kill yourself
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>>721919974
>>721920420
>some people wanted to play around with their vast piles of old jank
before then it was judges collecting draft chaff and then assembling everything that matched the colours of their preferred Elder Dragon (hence the name)
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>>721920256
Dwight being a planeswalker could easily be canon both in MtG and The Office
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You guys have no idea how much I miss this deck.
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>>721921065
OG Innistrad was better
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>>721912151
my favorite franchise is also New York City, I'm so glad that we are getting three sets dedicated to it in the next ten months
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>>721920258
>4 turns ago
He played this on turn 3
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I vote we let slivers kill everything and end all this multiverse autism with the excuse being to slow the spread of the Sliver rape train.
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>>721921249
anon slivers are going to just be eldrazi 0 in upcoming sets, they are going to unironically just turn mtg lore into prometheus vs hp lovecraft but also fill it up with troons at any convenience
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>>721921097
I agree but that deck is one of my all time favorites.
You have no idea how good it felt to effectively flash in a Voldaren Pariah through madness against Mardu Vehicles and force them to sacrifice their dumbass gideon ally of zendikar and heart of kiran, while swinging for at least 6 on the clapback.
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>>721912047
Eat shit commander faggot.
Peak MTG is kitchen table casual IE 60 card multiplayer.
>can have 1 to 4 copies in your deck
>can be any size you want, 60 , 500 cards whatever
>strategies are viable, you can make an aggro, burn, or mill deck without relying on combo
>not every game is a several hour long struggle
Fuck wallstreet for turning MTG into commander.
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GOOODS
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>>721921629
legendary whale bait
young kratos is pretty based tho
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Who honestly gives a shit about the lore? I read a couple novels back in the day and they were hot ass
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>>721921586
>>can have 1 to 4 copies in your deck
This is shit, i don't wanna have to buy an expensive card 4 times.
>>can be any size you want, 60 , 500 cards whatever
Nobody will ever do this because it just makes your deck shit and dysfunctional.
>>strategies are viable, you can make an aggro, burn, or mill deck without relying on combo
Bracket 2-4 commander is more varied than any 60 card format by an incredible margin.
>>not every game is a several hour long struggle
I can't even recall the last time i had a game that lasted noticeably longer than an hour.
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modern trading card games are the reason why i went back to poker

im aging out and i dont want to deal with this infantile shit
i just wanna play fun games and have a good time instead of wrapping my head around insanity
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>>721921871
your post is lmao tier.
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wait a fucking moment, the spidey set is actually standard legal? I thought those meme sets weren't supposed to be
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>>721921871
>This is shit, i don't wanna have to buy an expensive card 4 times.
It's your choice. More options and power to the players is a good thing.
Same thing with deck size, i have multiple 70 card decks because I simply want more fun things in them.
I helped a friend build a battle of the wits deck, its almost 300 cards, can you comprehend how fun that deck is?
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>>721922143
Not an argument, cry more about nobody wanting to play your dead format you balding 40 year old.

>>721922236
It really isn't you just put yourself at an incredible disadvantage if you don't run duplicates.
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>>721922232
Yeah. They lied about that.
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>>721922334
>DEBATE ME
No, I think I'll just call you a retard again.
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>>721922232
MtG seems to be built around 4 person commander or some shit it’s whatever
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>>721922367
That's okay you can keep söyraging if it makes you feel better.
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>>721908810
Why doesn't FF just make their own TCG? Seems like easy money
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>>721922546
It's even easier money (and more of it) to just let MtG handle it.
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>>721922546
they did
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>>721920532
Won't destroy it but it'll be tapped and unable to attack at least
Stack resolves top-down, it becomes white, then black, then the spell fizzles.
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>>721922232
Turns out the jewish toy maker company lied and is going for profit over integrity, who'd have thunk
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It’s been like 10 years since I played MtG but when I played with my friends 4 person Magic just seemed like everyone tried to be nice instead of attacking people who are obviously weak to eliminate them
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>>721923050
spending resources to kill the obviously weak player opens yourself up to getting fucked with by players in a better position
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>>721922232
They eventually made universes beyond as standard legal sets. Spiderman, yes spiderman, is the current most recent standard set in MtG.
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>>721922546
They do. They also found out MTG+FF is even more money.
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>>721908973
I'm glad I sold all my mtg stuff months ago.
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>>721908810
WHOA A BIG GREEN GUY!? IT'S OVER, MAGIC IS FINISHED!
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>>721922232
I think they want to get players interested in constructed again, and an easy way to do that is let Timmy and pals play their crossover slop in the real game. But that ship has sailed.
Most competitive players moved on cuz WotC killed off big events, and the metagame across all formats looks incredibly boring
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>>721908973
>the hobbit
hasbro really thought they gonna rake in lotrbucks again geg
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>>721922546
Cuz booster boxes of FF were selling for $700 the first few weeks
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>>721921586
Every commander player just straight up lies.
Your entire format is supported through sheer buyers remorse. The second you let your friends start playing standard you're afraid you'll realized the hundreds of dollars buying ass expensive commander decks will go all to waste when everyone is playing the game how it was designed.
That and avatar fags that want to roleplay as their favorite character and hate when it dies early.
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>>721911598
It was a bad design in /edhg/ and its bad here
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>>721923832
all they need to do is make an 001/001 Arkenstone and they will
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>>721922546
There is a Final Fantasy TCG but I never gave it a chance because they didn't make any original art for it, they just recycled old promo renders. It made the whole thing seem cheap and not satisfying to collect, unlike the MtG set which I've been collecting because I like the new art.
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>>721923904
the release pace and the resulting product fatigue and lack of playtesting ensures that Standard will never catch on again in any meaningful way.
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>>721923904
Funniest post ITT yeah man standard is so much more fun that's why it's completely dead and everyone dropped it for commander
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>>721908810
Ok i Block it
>>721908973
dont play the game for this crap or 30 aniversary fiasco
>>721914084
>tfw nobody wants to play whit me cause all my decks are about destroying lands an mana resources
>tfw everyone plays hugroup cards instead of WIN
Magic become something wierd
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>>721911598
Cute Tao
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>>721922918
does it actually? i thought it taps the moment it's declared an attacker
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>>721912047
I'm fucking miserable every time I try to play commander
>Say I'm running a precon
>Ok we'll play low power
>40 minutes of everyone arguing about who should be attacked by a 3/3 flyer
>Turn 5 infinite damage combo
>GG was fun
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>>721924242
Based lightning chad
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>>721908973
>dead
>nothing but winning properties in that list

What are you talking about? MtG has never been better. Look at all the cool stuff in that list, it boggles the mind just what cards they're gonna make. I'm sorry you're too busy crying and seething while I'm punking on some scrubs with my Loki and Smaug deck.
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>>721924094
Idk I feel like some people there made good arguments for why it's not so bad.

>>721924430
Thanks fren you too.
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>>721924534
(replying to myself)
cactuar player can say whatever he wants, you are able to respond regardless before he starts his attack phase.
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>>721917237
Guess who's back
Back again
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>>721917237
Commander slop
The only general i liked so far
Red goblins + burn its real mtg
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I have two edh decks that are too strong and one edh deck that was over-corrected and is now too weak God I hate this format.
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>>721913108
there are cards that destroy all lands, or force you to split all your permanents and your opponent decides which pile you keep
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>>721922918
This all happens with the equip trigger on the stack or nothing of this makes sense.
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>>721924376
>>721924315
>Insecure commander troops deploying.
The only thing commander has going for it is the players dog piling anyone calling out commander format for the slog that it is.
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>>721925168
>un set
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>>721917172
They would butcher the characters with their own artist staff.
All those original characters in the Final Fantasy sets look so goddamn ugly.
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>>721925342
That's why everyone plays it? Quite an odd reason.
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>>721914224
>>721915185
Isn't that guy in the picture Peter's friend from the MCU movies though? And the Spider-Man on the screen he's looking at is obviously red and blue Peter. Marvel just has to force Miles in there somehow everyday until you like it.
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ive never played mtg before
which ff commander deck is the most fun
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>>721925342
Commander can be a slog you hate but it is objectively the only constructed format people play anymore
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>>721925168
This would actually work pretty good with Amy Rose since she powers other creatures with her own power.
Amy works perfectly with the Cloud Strife starter deck.
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>>721925865
No, it's this guy, Ganke, Miles's best friend in the comics. He stole a different character's name in the MCU.

And the Spider-Man on the screens is quite obviously Miles.
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>>721925694
>>721925990
I keep hearing this,
My local card shop has it's standard tournaments filled up.
So I guess if the only defense Commander has is that they're monopolizing the players, the solution would be to play standard to fill that pool.
Also, yes of course the game company would prioritize the format that's more expensive to play.
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>>721912580
There are a million ways to legitimately draw, especially on purpose
>have card that does X when Y happens, as a trigger
>have card that does Y when X happens, as a trigger
>if either triggers the other, it creates an infinite number of effects that constantly go on the stack of after the other, meaning the game can never move on
>if any player can't remove one of the pieces, the game ends in a draw if it doesn't advance the game state (drawing cards to deck out or losing life)
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>>721925934
depends what you wanna do with your deck
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>>721926252
you can try that, but stores continue to drop standard events as they fail to fire.
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>>721908810
I genuinely have little to no respect for people who care about mtg beyond kitchen table play, I have more respect for gacha slaves
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>>721926643
Commander won't pull in new players with the gigantic investment.
Standard is pick up and play.
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>>721922232
Fun Fact, Final Fantasy set "broke" standard. Vivi Ornitier is the god king of magic now.
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>>721926724
There are 2-5 edh precons every set
The last standard precon was in 2022, one of them releasing with a banned card.
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>>721926724
Basically everyone who's new to Magic now gets into it to play commander
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>>721926724
>playing paper
>when TTS exists
your fault for paying for cardboard baka
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>>721927056
Who's everyone?
People like standard.
>>721926835
The nice thing about standard is that you can make a deck very easily.
You don't need 100 unique cards or even a obey a set color rule.
Precons are not really necessary unless you are playing commander, where it would take a lot of effort to assemble one without a base.
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>>721926724
the one (1) deck that made up the entirety of the past standard season hit $1000 at one point
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>>721927434
Don't buy that one.
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>>721927372
Anon wizards has been trying and failing to revitalize standard since covid. New players don't want to be told to go to mtggoldfish and pick the deck they can afford and then spend half an hour adding things to tcgplayer.
They want to go to target, see a complete deck ready to play out of the box, and buy it.
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>>721927578
Which players?
Not the people I play with.
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>>721908810
In response to you moving to equip I doom blade Jumbo Cactuar.
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>>721919742
try getting them used to 1v1 first, duel commander is a good middle-ground, then, if they're ok with that, it's easier to get them into 60-card formats
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>>721927713
not so fast anon
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>>721927952
>comes back tapped
>die next turn while you're tapped out
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>>721927372
>People like standard.
Factually: standard hasn't been as unpopular as it is now since they used the name "type 2". Covid brought it low, vivi killed it.
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>>721927512
then you just lose to that deck
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>>721917237
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>>721927668
The players that wizards have been unable to convert to standard players which is why we have UB in standard now.
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the power 9 should be reprinted and legalized
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I hate commander, cause players choose the most annoying effects for their commanders and it's like a perpetual gnat that you can't get rid of.
In standard, unless they're playing a black deck, which is the play style of the color, when I kill an annoying creature, it's fucking dead.
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>>721908810
I always felt like that ability was more suited for the Tonberry with their instant-death knife and all.
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>>721924094
>/edhg/
man I remember posting some alt art cards I used to play with friends. It pissed some autist off so hard thay my post has twice as many replies as there were ips back when the counter still worked.
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>>721919742
Just build some pauper decks and bring them unprompted.
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>>721920420
i preferred when you could bang out 30 games a night, because sometimes it would be a turn 8 win. now every game takes 400 fucking years because 400 fucking cards are in play.
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>>721908973
Why Star Trek? Why not Star Wars?
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>>721908973
insisting on crossover slop has to be bad, right?
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>>721924534
I assumed all of this is before declaring attackers. You don't have a "tap creatures" kind of card and use it after attackers are declared, it wouldn't work that way. Priority is passed literally the step after the creatures are tapped.
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>>721930145
Star Trek is a less expensive license most likely
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>>721930512
i was just going off of OP's post, but we're all ignoring that 'swiftboots' is swiftfoot boots which makes cactuar hexproof
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Played the shitty spiderman pre release and i couldn't feel more dirty for paying money to sustain MTG garbage.
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>>721930889
you just respond to the equip activation
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I remember playing Grixis control and looping Snapcasters with Kolaghan's Command and Cryptics against moneybag Jund players. Those were the days...
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>>721931487
>played grixis control
>calls anyone else moneybag players
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>>721930145
Star Wars has it's own card game.
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>>721926252
GP and SCG events are never coming back. My experience in the last 5 years moving around the US has been unless you live in a big city, LGS’s will only do commander nights
My hometown was still doing modern, but they rarely ever get 8 people
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>>721932920
I live in a big city and most LGSes still only do commander nights. Maybe a draft every now and then.
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>>721932598
A playset of Tarmogoyfs used to be $1000
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Ready for the awful truth?

Magic's own in game universe is bland, shallow, and difficult to just jump into without 20 years of backstory and is incredibly off putting to new players. That's why there are only 3 Universes within sets next year. Casuals and normies don't give a flying fuck about Phyrexis or Nico Bolas or Chandra or any of those nobodies.
They care about names they recognize and that's what Magic and (more importantly, Daddy Hasbro) are exploiting. Brand recognition crossovers = $$$$$$$

And UB sets will continue to make bank because of the casual players and the scalper fucktards.
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>>721933062
Spider-Man literally just flopped
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>>721912070
>bronze tier pet deck strategies
Cactuar is easily a platinum tier strat though. Honestly any deck can make it to plat.
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>>721908934
kino
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Haven't played in a while but it'd be simple to just cast any instant in response to the equip.
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>>721923024
>profit
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>>721933205
>fellforitagainaward.png
All of my LGS' had to have two nights of pre-release because of how many people wanted to buy in.
My local chain stores that usually carry product all have bare shelves. You falling for the internet lies again anon.
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>>721922918
Wait until deathlace resolves, then play wisps in response to the doom blade. A spell on the stack cam only resolve when every player passes priority on it.
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>>721933492
my LGS couldn't even fill one pre-release and their stock of Spider-Man is practically untouched
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>>721925193
Didn't exist in Standard at that time, iirc. Also, it was a UW deck with counters, because of course it would be.
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>>721926834
Standard was already turbo fucked because there's over 3000 cards in it, Vivi was just a different vector from using circumcision dick slicer which they banned just after he came out
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>>721925934
Out of the precon deck commanders tidus/tifa are the best for making a ton of guys go wide, cloud is the best for going unga bunga, and y'shtola is the only decent control one
Celes and Yuna are strong combo pieces
Graha is ass and Terra is just ok

Actual strength wise iirc only main set Kefka and Terra are actually cedh viable
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>>721933062
The awful truth that mtg lore has been shit for over a decade thanks to the jacetice league lasting for like twice as long as the entire game did before they were introduced?
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>>721909615
what happens if you mill your opponent while this is in play?
you just stare at each other forever?
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>>721934546
are you able to read?
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>>721934546
If you can't remove it eventually you lose because they have "can't lose the game" and you don't.
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>>721934546
you are trapped in the shadow realm for eternity
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>>721934492
I tried getting into the game around 2016 when kaladesh released, the art, theming and characters were so ass I dropped it until bloomburrow
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>>721936618
jeet aesthetics aside, Kaladesh was fun as fuck to draft with (and was absolute cancer for standard but who cares about those niggers)
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>>721933062
The people love Nicol Bolas he's a big dragon wizard
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>>721917237
It's won me games. Generally really like Terese Nielsen's art too, so that helps. I love rakdos so much it's unreal.
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>>721908973
I don't really see the problem. Magic's lore has always been absolute dogshit, people only play Magic for the gameplay.
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>>721932618
So does Marvel, but that has a five year, multi-product deal.
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>>721938568
There's a Marvel card game currently on sale and being played?
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>>721938801
Marvel Snap.
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>>721908973
Damn they even copied the same layout/look as Marvel did for their movies.

Truly slopmaxxing.
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>>721939190
That only affects the digital version of Magic. I'm talking about a physical card game you can walk into any game store and rip packs of.
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>>721908810
Wtffff you just posted the holocaust symbol!!!
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>>721908973
>only one of the crossovers is fantasy
>it’s the one where all the major characters are going to be racebent because the IP is owned by self-hating britcucks
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>>721915431
>gives woke points to non-blacks
bizarro chud
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>>721939438
>self-hating britcucks
AHEM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Zaentz
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle-earth_Enterprises
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>>721939850
Oh, I’d heard it was because Tolkiens grandkids were retard wokeoids. Usual suspects in reality, I see.
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>>721924242
based fellow lightning chad
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>>721940025
the grandkid running things is only interested in squeezing as much money as humanly possible from the property, he doesn't care what happens once the check clears.
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>>721940025
>Usual suspects
Yep. Americans don't care about anything that isn't money.
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FF 2 when?
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>>721939850
it's interesting how it's legitimately, literally every single time.
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QRD on when and why MTG turned into the Fortnite of card games.
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>>721942019
It theoretically makes more money off of outsiders being suckered in, and you have to spend less on creatives
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>>721909258
based gendercleave poster
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>>721942019
Making custom MTG cards based on characters from other universes has always been something the community did because the color pie and the games mechanic's blended extremely well with pretty much any character you can think of. But it was always just for fun and not something anyone actually thought would one day become reality. But when the Commander format took over the game as the most popular format, many players began thinking about what it'd be like other characters from other IP's were able to be used as a commander. What would the deck be like? How would the commander play? Wizards eventually picked up on this and now here we are.
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>>721917237
Big boy numbers
BIG BOY NUMBERS
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I don't think UB sets would be that bad if it was just restricted to commander. I have a good feeling that Wizards will eventually take UB sets out of none UB formats as it will destroy those other formats. UB sets should also be small like the Assassin Creed set. The reason the Spider Man set was received with lukewarm reception is because the cards aren't really that interesting with most of the cards just being legends filler. Like, what the fuck is this >>721914224
And it turned out that's exactly what happened as the set was originally supposed to be much smaller than what we got. It's why we have 30 different Spider Man's.
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>>721913307
to be fair this set is just really bad regardless of it being UB
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>feel the calling to play the game again
>every format is dead or ass
>think about at least building a new edh deck for the playgroup
>despite meeting pretty regularly to hang out, said playgroup hasn't played in a year and a half
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>>721928298
You don't get it guys oneshotting everyone with Vito is my pet combo!
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>>721942019
MTG has been dead for a few years now, you can compare and verify this by looking for large tournament data of MTG across all formats vs pokemon and yugi-oh, the current MTG Scene is insanely low and has a lost pretty much all players, this happened because wotc is made up of incompetent jews and sjw who fired all their best artists and game designers, leading to some retarded balancing and routinely having only 3 viable decks across all formats that rotate every 6-12 months either by bans or introducing new OP shit.
So to recover they they started focusing on a fake economy prompted up by (((investors))) by making a sudo-reserved list 2.0 (secret lairs and UB shit that WILL NOT get reprinted under that licensing ever again) and by doubling the prices of those sets they have these mentally retareded individuals throwing millions at them and letting this product rot in warehouses were they will attempt in the future (a few years from now) to slowly re-sell it for 1.5x-3x the value they bought it for.
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>>721937181
>Terese Nielsen's art
Whatever happened to her
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>>721911975
Snakeskin Veil
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>>721945880
You know
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>>721908934
first chud?
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>>721939190
that shit's not dead yet?
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>>721908934
>>721945968
holy fuck
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>>721945745
>large tournament data
irrelevant, most people don't play in those
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>>721945968
>>721908934
no way dude!
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>>721939265
WOTC have been trying to copy marvelslop for a long time. There was a period in 2016/2017 where they turned all the planeswalkers into a bunch of superfriends and when the community started referring to "the gatewatch" as the jacetice league one of the head designers had a meltdown on his blog
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>>721945745
>MTG has been dead for a few years now, you can compare and verify this by looking for large tournament data of MTG across all formats vs pokemon and yugi-oh, the current MTG Scene is insanely low and has a lost pretty much all players
>this happened because wotc is made up of incompetent jews and sjw who fired all their best artists and game designers, leading to some retarded balancing and routinely having only 3 viable decks across all formats that rotate every 6-12 months either by bans or introducing new OP shit

Although this definitely play a part, the REAL reason is because everyone went to go play Commander. Standard, Modern, Legacy, Pauper etc. these formats don't sell packs to anywhere near the amount that Coammnder does. Commander bascially is MTG at this point and it's why nearly every Standard set for the past 10 years has felt like it was more designed with Commander in mind then with the other formats in mind.
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You guys ever think it's weird how the only pro-collab slop argument is "It makes more money!" but is only ever posted by brown people who will never actually see any of that money? Why are they so interested in some Jew in a suit making more?
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>>721946671
If pro-collab stayed in commander no one would have cared but pushing into standard was the final straw for me and for many others. But then again, Wizards probably doesn't care since Commander is what makes them all their money anyways so why not push it into other formats?
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>>721945745
The last YCS for yugioh only had 500 players
People are quitting that game in droves. Most Magic players only do EDH now
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>>721908934
>Olson Twins? KILL!!
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>>721925994
If someone used a inflated Amy deck at a shop tournament,
would it be called out?
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>>721946214
Thanks for showing your scarce IQ to the class since you don't understand the implications.
>>721946628
Commander doesn't sell packs either and a good chunk of command players simply proxy, they do however sell more commander decks, though this is a again thanks to wotc stupidity, when they used to make tournament decks those sold out very quickly too.
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>>721947079
How many people buy individual packs these instead of just buying the card they want?
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>>721945745
>>721946886
Yugioh product also sells significantly below MSRP and stores are dropping it. Finding a decent locals keeps getting more difficult. Honestly it seems like pokemon is the only tcg that isn't slowly dying.

>>721947079
The implication is that events that only a tiny percentage of the playerbase participate in represent the health of the game, which is fucking dumb. Are we going to start measuring the health of games by how active the subreddit is?
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>>721947270
Pokemon is alive because of "collectors", the game itself isn't that active either.
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>>721946886
lying nigger
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>>721947270
The implication is that people who heavily invest in your game for long period of time and promote your game is extremely low, thanks for showing again you lack the intellect to understand long term development and health of a hobby.
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>>721947531
>only competitive players heavily invest and promote the game
that's such a retarded way of thinking.
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>>721947350
>the game itself isn't that active either.
For comparison MTG has 3x paupergeddons in Italy per year that hit between 600 to 1000 players and only GP utrecht that got to 1590 players (of 2000 spots), I think there may have been a GP in the USA as well and that's it.
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>>721948009
Actually found a proper list, other TCGs do in 3 months the number of players MTG does in a whole year (and still fails to cap out).
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>>721948236
>>721948009
the attendance of advertisements is irrelevant
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>>721948436
You don't even play any of these games and you have no clue of what you are talking about, simple as that.
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>>721915296
>>721915765
well you'll get fucked if your reanimate effect gets countered albeit
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>snoy secret lair
>no bloodborne

All but confirms from soft games as the other UB set they didn't reveal.
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>o-o-our g-game is totally alive! It's just that everyone plays commander!
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>>721948493
what percentage of the playerbase do you think goes to anything larger than locals?
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>>721917237
hard to pick just one...
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This is a sign of a franchise that is financially doing well btw
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>>721948558
Bloodborne set would be too high IQ for WotC. It'd have to be a very strange set in terms of flavor and mechanics for it to be true to the game.
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>>721909615
this in 1v1s is very funny
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>>721948620
How do you think percentages work?
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>>721948768
no answer?
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>>721948692
>>721948590
Why take from I's that clash so heavily with the theme and artstyle of the game? Are they this desperate to grab the attention of the average Millennial?
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>>721908973
lol lmao even, the company is so chinese owned
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>>721908973
yikes
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>>721948692
MTG literally just had it's best selling set of all time by a country mile a few months ago.

Universes Beyond is slop, but to think it's not incredibly successful is cope.
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>>721948806
You lack the intellect to comprehend what has been posted so far and has already been explained, please pick up your elementary school math book, go in the section that teaches you about statistics and how to do percentages and then come back once you are actually educated, until then, you are not on an intellectual level sufficient to have this discussion.
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>>721908810
ENTER
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>>721948951
>MTG literally just had it's best selling set of all time by a country mile a few months ago.
Ah yes and outside of wotc's words do we have any raw data that we can inspect ourselves? No? What a shame, until then, I will open source tools that provide me with public data to judge the health of the game.
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>>721948961
>cascades 4 times
>has 5 heads
Epic fail.
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>>721948956
>nu-uh!
concession accepted
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>>721917237
my love
my dove
heaven above <3
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>>721930145
Star Trek 60th anniversary
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>>721949139
forgot image
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>>721930145
That brand was raped too badly so people are fatigued and annoyed by it.
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>>721949054
If you have proof that hasbro is lying in their quarterly reports then report it to the ftc. Oh and you can't use the "uh i would but i dont have any reason to" excuse because they give you a percentage of the fine for reporting it.
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>>721948951
>Muh sales
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>>721949245
...and you post this in favour of *star trek*?
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>>721949247
I don't live in the USA, so I don't see how that is relevant. You also lack reading comprehension, please go back to 1st grade.
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>>721921871
Your post is so stupid that I was compelled to give this (You) congratulations you total fucking retard
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>>721949354
Foreigners are allowed to report crimes. If you have evidence that hasbro is committing fraud then there is nothing preventing you from btfoing hasbro.
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>>721949054
If you think the numbers that they've reported to their investors are fake, the numbers that they would be criminally liable for defrauding investors if they lied about and also liable to be sued for literal billions civilly by those same investors, then I don't know what I could say to change your mind.
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>>721949347
No but i think more people are kinda ambivalent towards Star Trek. Personally i think both suck.
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>>721949278
Money is all that matters.
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>>721915431
>isn't a white creature
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>>721948951
Yea and the next one was one of the worst.
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>>721949440
Yeah that's the best you can come up with in your impotent seethe
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>>721949570
They normally arent
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>>721917237
He goes in literally every deck I make
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>>721919742
Commander got me back into magic after 15 or so years, because i liked the idea of making fuck huge decks like i always wished i could when making normal decks as a kid.
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I stopped buying cards and started buying art prints from my favorite artists
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>>721917237
My commander deck for him is so strong I have to keep him locked up or my friends cry like faggots about it.
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>>721918576
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>>721908973
Universes beyond isn't that bad because its the only way we'll get heroic white men in white ever again.
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Thoughts on proxies?
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>>721924430
>When Hu is dealt damage put X +1/+1 counters on him/her/it
You need counters to make it work, doubling/increasing stats permanently isnt really an option without them and anything p/t wise is +1/+1 or nothing
>>721911598
Make it pay 2 life and it works, hatred doesnt get reprinted for a reason
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>>721950806
Universes Beyond isn't that bad because the alternative to them is The Plane Where Everyone Is A Cook or The Dancing Competition or Real World Mythology With The Names Slightly Changed, which is what almost every set has been for years
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>>721951335
Just say you're poor.
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>>721951472
We now know from the horse's mouth, though, that recent in-universe sets were deliberately to boil the frog of what's considered "magic's identity", example EoE for Star Trek.
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>>721913108
>>721933804
>>721925193
kaldheim had a changeling land. book of exalted something was a w riff on the dnd BBB card so it gave a plat angel effect on an angel. in a specific pre play format [always a meme] there wasnt any field of ruin cards so it literally couldnt be answered if they passed turn. but the deck wasnt very subtle and there is a very large window when its a creatre with 3 toughness, if you cant find an answer to a 3 toughness creature at insant speed in current year you should an hero. disenchant also worked
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>>721951430
Hatred doesn't get reprinted because it's on the retarded reserved list not because it's broken
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>>721911598
why is she so pushed, repeatable hatred and in small doses on top of two srong keywords.

>custom card
why not make it op, becuase this is far from balanced at the actual price of hatred. if you were going for a hatred commander i would maker her a spellshaper and tap pay 5mv and discard a card fro teh hatred effect.
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>>721952224
That's fair yeah i probably should add an additional cost to the effect.
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>>721950070
Congrats on being the cancer killing this game.
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>>721952181
>Hatred doesn't get reprinted because it's on the retarded reserved list not because it's broken
They could make it a sorcery, put it on a creature, a planeswalker effect etc
The effect is busted and only gets worse every year
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>>721921629
We must be.... better creatures.
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>>721915159
theres a lot that cost a lot of cash, just play more ramp, you have a 4mv commander so you should be always playing 40 lands and 10 2mv mana rocks like arcane signet mind stone the talismans and other signets. you can add more ramp like solemn etc on top of that and you can just brute force the costs every game until you drown them in your commanders value.
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>>721952224
>>721952304
Also if i wanted to make it once per turn how would i word it?
"Activate only once per turn."?
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>>721952321
Your game is ours now faggot. Go play Yu-Gay-Oh
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>>721917237
wheelspinners rise up
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>>721950332
Played with a guy who made a dinosaur deck with this as his commander. it was funny when he got 10 legendary creatures out all with special effects. Annoying but extremely effective
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Pauper Commander is the least gay non vintage way to play. Prove me wrong
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>>721953064
The way I play him is to fill the rest of the deck with copy effects flood the stack with his ETB. Play your opponents entire decks for free.
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>>721908973
god, master duel maybe dogshit right now but thank god i never got into this tranny game.
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>>721952563
seems to be the wording

you could also play with the base mana cost if you made her a spellshaper like i said, she could be a huge fatty that you have to weigh the decision to not attack with her or to capitalize on the ability. a fun play is to make her 2mv with nice things like lifelink to really play with her gaining enough life to kill with the tap ability to hatred something

2mv 2/3 dt lifelink FS
tap: pay 3BB: discard a card: pay x life to give another creature x power

this is a way more interesting design with a lot of nobs to tweak the deck around and the best thing is that casting hatred on her is actually very powerful while putting hatred in your design is trolling
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Alright i updated the card a bit, now she's too expensive to be hasted the same turn she hits the field and the effect isn't repeatable.
I don't feel like she really needs more nerfs than this, on her own i'd just basically be committing suicide if i oneshot someone and if i pair her with other cards i might as well have won the game off a cheaper and more efficient combo already.
Still taking suggestions of course!

>>721953362
I like your idea but i feel like at that point it wouldn't really have the flavor of the character anymore, in her game she's a selfish DPS unit that buffs herself with fire damage by consuming her own HP and gets even stronger if you go lower in HP, i feel like this Hatred effect encapsulates that perfectly.
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>>721930145
because the marvel stuff taught Hasbro that not working with Disney too much is the better option in the long ruin
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>daily NTG threads on /v/ now
>fucking SpongeBob and the office cards now

It’s so fucking over for this hobby, it’s super ultra beyond mainstream now.
How long till the Kardashians and Sabrina carpenter are in it.
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>>721953530
mtg has rtsr effects on cards like deaths shadow, so thats where id go. as far as paying life goes i doubt she is anywhere close ot getting a hated buff every cast. hatred is a very powerful narrow effect thats rare even in mtgs 30 years, let alone in other videogames.

trying to capture the spirit of a dps in mtg is a design mistake.
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>>721953263
thats "diabolical" as the zoomers say.
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>>721953783
Sure but i'm just designing a card for fun casual matches and probably realistically to mostly sit in my binder or be given out to friends.
On a real card that would see tournament play they probably shouldn't print this but for casual games i feel like she's balanced enough don't you think?
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>It’s a your favorite hobby gets destroyed by normies episode
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>>721953702
Hey look everything is awful now but we should just keep smiling. Just keep smiling
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>>721953702
>>721953943
Oh no, not the funny drawings on the card. The west truly has fallen
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>>721951335
They're funny, I make a bunch for my tabletop group for whatever theme we're doing
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>>721917237

I haven't played MTG in 5+ years but this was my low cost go-to in every EDH deck
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>>721954045
Every single og magic fan is saying it’s over, you’re probably just a Normie who bandwagon recently
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Would you play their UB set?
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>>721917237
>commander deck with 40 of these fucking things
LUDOSOVL
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>>721953930
thats no excuse for a shoddy design

im not saying shes op in her current iteration but its clearly a pushed design if it actually came out of wotc, repeatable hatred is very strong and the obvious combo is 10 cheap lifelink auras/sorceries and trample to one shot 3 players. fill the other cards with extra turns and bam the deck insta wins. in edh the commander only needs 21 power as well so paying 20 life to just kill someone who tapped out isnt very fun or balanced. the games will suck as well because anyone with a brain realizes that you can haste her out and do this with some removal so they have to keep removal up, blockers up and kill her every turn she comes down. not a fun game for anyone
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>>721954203
Anon, not a single person in the planet started playing Magic for the lore or the setting. They played it because it was the best card game out there, and it still very much is. Whatever is drawn on the card is irrelevant
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Since it’s essentially over for magic, what hobbies are me moving to bros? Any safe havens still left?
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>>721954371
Not that anon but I agreed with this all the way until the fucking Marvel shit
Something about it feels so bootleg I can't describe it, awful
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>>721954371
>and still very much is

LMFAO yup you’re larping, everyone knows the state of MTG is the best it’s ever been! Sure do love all this marvel Spider-Man cards! Can’t wait for 47 UB sets every year!
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>>721954169
yordle sex
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>>721954434
Getting married and having children with model airplanes on the side
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>>721917237
Anything that doubles shit is my jam.
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>>721954440
Why? Who gives a shit? How is that any less embarrassing than the cowboy set or the detective set? MtG lore and setting has always been irrelevant trash, nothing has changed
>>721954537
Yes, the game still plays very much the best out of any other alternative, so you can confidently say it is the best card game out there
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>more marvel sets coming
>another Nickelodeon set coming
>more final fantasy shit coming

It’s only a matter of time till it turns into Fortnite
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>>721954297
Well if you think lifegain strats are too degenerate with this i could add something like "you can not gain life until end of turn" or whatever maybe.
I don't feel like the ability to oneshot someone with this for that much mana would be that degenerate though, green decks can do it with Tifa or the Mossborn Hydra before Hu Tao even hits the field and those have trample built in.
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>>721954730
final fantasy is fine though
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>>721913307
Fun fact they charge $7 for blister Magic packs (not just Spiderman, any of them), while Pokemon despite being in such retarded demand are still $4 for a pack, at least here anyway.
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>>721954730
Avatar and FF could 100% be actual MtG settings so theres no issue there
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>>721954730
it's already Fortnite
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>try and play MTG arena
>it’s become pure meta cookie cutter try and win as fast as possible slop
>try and play irl at LGS
>its become pure meta cookie cutter try and win as fast as possible slop

What happened to just trying to have fun. Why are zoomers like this, the moment they get into a hobby they have to spend 20 hours straight looking up the meta strats and most powerful shit before they even start. Vidya, card games, everything.
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>still no good way to play Commander online
The fuck is their problem
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>>721954962
You're just shit at the game. You can absolutely have fun and make a non-dogshit deck, so I'm thinking it's just a skill issue on your part
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>>721955009
They're working on a specific client just for it because apparently Arena's code is too spaghetti to support Commander. Small indie company please understand
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>>721954434
I'm going back to drawing and painting.
I'm also dabbling into photography a bit, did a few photoshoots with my wife that turned out better than expected and she is excited to do more. And by photoshoot I don't mean adult content. Well, ok there were a few risqué pics...
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>>721954962
>play in a competitive setting
>WTF why are people trying to win???
that's not a new thing. fucking retard
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>>721955017
>>721955090
>meta zoomie got butthurt
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>>721954770
tifa has an entire deck warped around doing that chief, this design does that the turn she isn't blocked.

i think putting you cannot gain life on her would be a band aid on the real issue of having hatred in the command zone. there are games where you dont need the lifegain so it wouldnt matter.

having hatred on a commander is a very powerful effect that I dont think you understand. its cool because it is so powerful and so you have to tempre the card around that. also its a custom card so if you want people to agree to actually play with your bs you should make it weaker than the normal rate and the deck should lose more than it wins so people actually want to play against it again.
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>>721955074
I swear I heard this shit like 3 years ago it CAN'T take that long
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>>721908810
>>721908810
Scoop
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>>721955074
>they will make us pay for our cards all over again and make somehow more cancer and more expensive when they could very easily just have us scan our own cards in.
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>>721955118
You're the only one whining lil bro
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>>721955009
Honestly? The vast majority of their supposed playerbase would never use it. WotC has harped on for years about how their largest player and purchaser base is kitchen table. Now, the cracks start so show when you think about how they would have such data because those players aren't trackable by any real metric, so this is just a semi-educated guess but I really believe that they will never deliver a full decent way to play Commander.

Arena has not worked to convert people into paper players and 99% of the playerbase are fully F2P. They gain nothing by adding a good Commander client.
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>>721955118
Shut the fuck up you larping faggot you didn't even play back then.
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>>721955180
>pay for our cards again

You paid for Arena cards? I havent spent a dime on it and have enough wildcards to make any deck I want from scratch by just doing dailies and drafts
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>>721955090
>LGS
>competitive setting

Zoomers have really destroyed the hobby. Just because you’re at your LGS doesn’t mean it should be meta try hard bullshit, you can try out new decks and have fun you know? You don’t have to be a meta obsessed cuck.
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>>721955292
You can also try non-shit decks AND have fun. Checkmate, scrubby
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>>721955216
>>721955265
>posts perfectly line up with wait timer

Lmfao stay mad zoomie
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>>721952375
hatred doesnt get cards with its effect because it doesnt create fun games
>get opponent down 1 life
>get in 1 unblocked attack with 5mv up
>win
>now every deck playing against b has to treat every attacker as a possible hatred target and warp their decks around it
even if hatred is bad this is still true for casual play which is where bulk rares get played because playing janky rares is fun
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>>721908810
Nice
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>finally decide to go to local LGS after a while thinking it should be chill
>whole place is full of broccoli heads saying shit like finna no cap my nigga on god even though they’re 80 pounds soaking wet suburban broccoli heads

Wtf has happened.
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>>721945745
Untrue. My friend owns a pretty big hobby store. MTG still clears his shop and supports his business.
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>>721908973
When will these crossover stuff end? I doubt zoomers even care at this point as well.
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>>721955134
That's fine yeah i mean it's kinda subjective if people find it fun, my main concern was it being too OP which i think with these changes it really isn't anymore when cards like Vivi are running around.
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>>721955804
Anon, the people bitching and whining about this don't actually engage with the hobby. MtG is THE reason a ton of nerd hobby shops are even able to stay afloat
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>>721955804
Nta, but where I'm from they started focusing on pokemon and yugioh. The magic stuff gets like on wall tops
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>>721955803
>play a game for kids and teens
>somehow shocked when the people playing it are kids and teens
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>>721955873
>whataboutism
logical fallacy 40 yard penalty

just admit you want to be called a good boy for a bad design
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>>721955947
>they're focusing on a game where product has to sell barely above cost
i doubt that
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>>721955968
kids and teens didn’t used to idolize black men
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>>721955979
Not really i was just looking for suggestions to improve the idea i had which i did get, so thanks!
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>>721911598
shit
>>721924430
Interesting
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>>721956042
>he didnt love Michael Jackson and Will Smith back in the day

No wonder you're so lame, anon
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>>721956121
Yikes
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>>721956007
Not really. I'm not going to dox myself, but it's a nice little store. There used to be about 3-4 walls worth of stuff but I went recently for the recent mega tin and was surprised pokemon was most of the store. They even have plushes, merch and other stuff there. The yugioh stuff had like two walls of stuff. It just depends on where you live and what people buy. Might also help they're trying to get into selling retro games as well.
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>>721954023
I kind of pity this guy because he so clearly hates what the game has been pivoting towards for years now but it's his livelihood. Like what's he gonna do if he throws the towel, go back to being an adjunct english professor at a community college?
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>>721956264
Yeah I believe you anon. What happens is that often one or two stores absorb most of the Magic players (or Warhammer, or Lorcana, or whatever) in a big area and the rest are kind of forced to focus on something else to stay afloat, I've seen it happen in big cities multiple times
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>>721956384
He deserves all of his suffering for constantly platforming psychotic trannies.
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>>721956384
Nah he still loves actually playing the game, its just that the flavor and aesthetic part of it is kind of shit nowadays
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>>721956391
I don't know. I don't think it's struggling to stay afloat. There was a big line for some booster release. I checked and the only other specialty shop like this is like 30 minutes away. I don't think they're fighting for customers.
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>>721954730
>turns into fortnite
Like 3 years ago dude
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>>721955287
time is money retardbro
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>>721956549
No no, I'm not saying it's struggling, I'm saying that the likeliest reason it switched to pokemon was because of what I said.
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>>721954730
when are we getting a secret lair for a pedo murderer nigger that they have to cancel before it comes out
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>>721956627
We're both on 4chan anon, our time could not be any more worthless
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>>721946517
>one of the head designers had a meltdown on his blog
>Proceeds to copy Endgame in MoTM.
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Is there a way to perma exile a commander?
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>>721925168
Nah, pic related so you can get him pregnant and his offspring immediately die because of the legends rule
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>>721957264
Just slap a pacifism on em or whatever
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>>721957264
Only if its owner fucks up iirc.
A better way to get rid of them is to steal them or make them useless with some enchantment.
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>>721944276
>We have scarlet witch at home
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>LOTR set gets announced
>fuck yeah can’t waist to get that
>they make all the characters black
>pull a good Angel card, want to make Angel deck
>all the angels are black

When does it end
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>>721956631
No, the likeliest reason it switched to pokemon is because it's the product of choice for online scalping culture.
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>>721957264
>>721957329
Steal it, make it a land, make it untargetable and indestructible, and make sure you have another permanent of each type to sacrifice at all times. I *think* that's what it takes to make it completely uninteractable.
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>>721957740
Elaborate?
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>>721911598
combo fodder but costs too much so it's shit
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>>721913243
holy shit broken

... but it costs 7 mana so probably ok for standard.
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>>721942507
Star Wars set when?
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>>721932618
So does Final Fantasy
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I kind of want to get into Warhammer as my new tabletop game, it's about as pricey and apparently it's been leaning on Marvel trends too but at least it keeps its shit story in-house. Sadly I'm pretty sure there's maybe one other dude in a 20 mile radius that plays the game
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>>721955803
It's the opposite in my store. Everyone there is 30 to 40, maybe a rare freshman from college but it's an oldhead millenial hobby
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>>721958354
It’s just as flooded with scalpers and normies now. Seriously look up the hobby on YouTube half the videos are females now because they like the painting aspect of it.

Cool if you got non autistic friends to play with same as mtg
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>>721957473

>look up recent legendaries on EDHRec
>half of them are black women
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>>721959615
Laughed, unfortunately.
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>>721959615
lmao
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>>721947848
>can be partnered with his killer.

kinda fucked up ngl
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>>721908973
Hope Gambit is in the Super Hero set because I've wanted to make a gambling and thief themed deck for a longass time and he'd be perfect for it
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>>721960025
he won't be (because there's an xmen set in 2027)
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>>721959945
God why are these so bland and uninspired
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>>721960132
I hope you're not just yanking my chain
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>>721908973
How long until the persona 5 crossover?
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>>721960379
Because WoTC is also.
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>>721959945
I mean, it makes sense considering she goes to one of your opponents when you cast her
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>>721949728
Who is that again?
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>>721917749
It's a damage replacement effect that doesn't target a creature, just the next general source of choice.
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>>721908810
I can't believe mtg published a nazi dance card! first fortnite and now this....wtf???
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>>721930145
Star Trek is fun. Star Wars is the gayest shit I have ever seen. Same slop as capeshit. I hate universe beyond. Star Trek is great but other than that only Final Fantasy was tolerable minus Vivi and the cactus bullshit.
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>>721941506
2027 possibly, likely later just because they might not have immediately signed up for it but SE is literally selling games packaged with mtg boosters at this point
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>>721960379
They're still apologizing for the first time they made the Partner mechanic.
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>>721957016
>copy avengers 5 years too late
>copy avengers endgame 3 years too late
>copy hearthstone with silly gimmicks like cowboys, magic school, murder mystery
please look forward to copying fortnite as crossover vehicle
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>>721962337
What are you talking about, War of the Spark predates Endgame for many years
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>>721919974
>commander
>fun deckbuilding and interesting games
>standard
>I cast my metaslop combo that I put four times into my deck and win on the spot
Yeah, no
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>>721908973
>blah blah blah
>trek...
MARO IM SO SORRY BABY I'M COMING HOME
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>>721960379
because they're Last of us
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>>721923904
I build fun Commander decks within a 40€ budget. What's the cost of a competitive standard deck again?
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>>721962518
>casual multiplayer
>fun deckbuilding and interesting games
>commander
>I cast my metaslop combo that uses my commander and win on the spot
Yeah, no
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>>721917237
My wife
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>>721962972

>I cast my metaslop combo that uses my commander and win on the spot

if for some reason the people you're playing with don't immediately see your combo strategy when they see your commander, they'll be ready for it next time. Get ready to win one game like that and then play against Esper/UB decks that are half removal/counterspells the rest of the night
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>>721917237
my first rare
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>>721962490
are you sure there wasn't some other storyline about a big universal threat that involved unceremonious killings and resurrections of established characters?
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My life got better when I stopped playing Magic altogether. Arena is rigged as fuck and it ruins the entire experience.
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>>721963125
I'm pretty sure that for a 'every named character is dumped on the same spot to have a big dumb battle against the big bad guy and his cohorts' War of the Spark fits the bill much better
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>>721963121

Morph was so fun in EDH back in the day. Man I miss playing Tarkir Block
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>>721913226
Some of the basic lands look more like 40k than the 40k lands.
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>>721963119
>Get ready to win one game like that and then play against Esper/UB decks that are half removal/counterspells the rest of the night
That won't happen because control is "unfun", just like aggro and taxes and literally everything else that isn't a simic go wide or go tall combo.
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>>721940025
>the last tolkien to give a shit died a few years ago
>IMMEDIATE announcement of the amazon show
>gollum game soon to follow
all you need to know really
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>>721919070
Everything in UB is like that. UB is overpowered as fuck
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>>721960609
I hate to admit I'd like it. Also SMT collab in general
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>>721960379
Well that is Last of us.
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>>721919070
yes creatures aren't ass anymore
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>>721962972
>I cast my metaslop combo that uses my commander and win on the spot
That kind of shit only usually happens in cedh. Alternatively it also happens when assholes make what is basically a cedh deck and try to convince you that it isn't one because it totally wouldn't survive there.
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>>721962972
Where do you get casual multiplayer?
Also most people run tons of removal so this does not happen in lower brackets.
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>>721945880
She was transphobic
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>>721959945
As much as I hate the game, Abby's design is really good. You cast her to literally have her show up as your enemy and your opponent wants to keep her alive because if they sac her, you can cast her again for a scaling amount of zombie tokens each time she dies. For Joel each of those tokens dying makes Joel bigger (just one is enough for her to no longer be able to beat him) and she can't block him alone to begin with.

Say it with me now "In order for Abby to kill Joel she needs help because she's too weak to do it alone."

Now check this, TLOU2 Ellie lets you sac tokens to deal damage and survive. Say it with me now "Ellie isn't strong enough to kill Abby, but her quest for revenge will kill others."

Congratulations Mr. Druckman the childrens cardgame tells a better story than your award winning AAA videogame.
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>>721957264
Make this a creature so it phases itself out



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