if this is your favorite Castlevania, you deserve to be locked up in a padded room
Lock me up officer, because that's me
That's me favourite one lad
>>721946081It made me realize that linearity is superior.
>>721946081Ecclesia is mid, im more into Portrait of kino
>>721946081Next CV thread will be made by myself, and I will make it NOT using bait.
>>721946129>oh fuck yeah, i cant wait to play through the Training Hall for the 50th fucking time, maybe THIS time the green chest will have what i actually want>if i give Laura that Alexandrite she will let me squeeze her tits for sure
>>721946417>Boys thinking only of our bodies as a rewardThis is why she sleeps with him and not you
>>721946165>>721946215i know right, this level design is fire fr fr
>>721946398what if its not bait? what if i just finished OoE and i legitimately think its the worst Igavaniamaybe not a bad game, but holy shit, how the fuck do you niggas put this thing over Symphony of the Night, Aria of Sorrow, Dawn of Sorrow, Portrait of Ruin and even Harmony of Dissonancelike, i want to play Harmony of Dissonance again in Hard Mode and Maxim Mode, i dont want to touch OoE again
>>721946958>Dawn of SorrowThat's not a hard bar to pass
>>721947051please, show the class your castle map
>>721946523You are allowed to like things that are flawed.You dont have to spam that series of images EVERY thread EVERY time someone says they like OoE.
>>721947332What does it matter having a better overall map if everything else sucks.
>>721946215subway surfers was made for tards like you
>>721946958ecclesia is a mediocre game literally carried by it ditching the previous anime style people hated and because shanoa is a good design, that's it
>>721946081It's my favorite Igavania, not my favorite Castlevania by any means.
>>721946081Its not but I do love the hell out of hard lv1 in that game.
>>721947438you know the FUNNIEST thing? i hadnt posted that image before, see the Argila Swap is totally different to the Ruvas Forest which I HAD spammed beforeare you implying that you, an OoE connoisseur, cannot tell them apart? maybe you are not a real OoE fan like me
>>721947646What is that image, Soma looks more of a man than in the last game, he already has a sus design, Kojima drawing every man like a woman did NOT help him at all.
>>721947646Dawn is my favorite, but i respect Portraitbros, Portrait is my 3rd favorite, you forgot to mention the excellent bosses of PoR, the game gets REALLY good towards the end
>>721947805This is not the point that I am making here.You yourself said it, why are you spaming the same SERIES (READ, PLURAL) of images over and over again, what is there to gain from it, everyone knows you hate OoE, whats the point, there is nothing to gain other than stirring a shit flinging competition, and if I wanted that, Id go to a funnier thread which /v/ has plenty of.Every IGAvania bar PoR has a lot of issues to use to shit on the (PoR only has one) but you dont see a bunch of autists engage in the same gymnastics with the same autism as you do.Whats the fucking point.
>>721947496brother, theres not a SINGLE thing Order of Ecclesia does better than Dawn, except maybe the story and the artstyleand while the Artstyle of OoE is good (nowhere near Kojima level tho') the story is undermined by how fucking bland samoa is>b-buh Shanoa bland because she lost her memoriesdont care, i shouldve started a drinking game when i started playing, take a shot every fucking time shamone bitches about MUH MEMORIES
>>721948047like i said, i hadnt used the swap image before, so technically THAT wasnt spamming, but ok, ill stop, the point was made
My favorite is CotM
>>721948723sorry bub, cant be allowed to like anything other than [GENERAL CONSENSUS] here, gonna have to call you a faggot
>>721948723based
>>721946508YWNBAW
what if i wanted to play castlevania for the first time in my lifewhere do i look?
>>721949835SoTNIf you like it, then play the rest.
>never really played Castlevania games aside from Lords of Shadow>look up series order since most have subtitles and no numbers>shitload of ports, remakes, all with confusing names, vague timelines, games that are ports/remakes but given a different name, game versions that have the same name but are completely different, etc.is there a complete list of games in the series and the best way to play them? or should I just stick with the anniversary + other remastered collections?
>>721949835Depends, if you want metroidvanias, AoS.If you want normal platformers, SCIV.
>>721950224>I just stick with the anniversary + other remastered collectionsyes
>>721950224The only worthwhile games that are missing from the collections are Chronicles and Harmony of Despair
>>721946081oh yeah? and whats your reason for that big boy? i'd love to hear it.
>>721950515Read the thread above.
>>721950224you can stick to thesehttps://store.steampowered.com/bundle/40229/Castlevania_Collections_Bundle/and you will have almost all the noteworthly 2D castlevanias, both the Metroidvania style and classic style gamesthe main missing titles from those collections are Symphony of the Night, Rondo of Blood and Castlevania Adventure Rebirthhopefully Konami will release the final collection soonif you liked those games i also highly recommend the Bloodstained games, made by the main Castlevania producer after he left konami, the titles also come in Metroidvania and Classic flavorsMetroidvania:https://store.steampowered.com/app/692850/Bloodstained_Ritual_of_the_Night/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1883810/Bloodstained_The_Scarlet_Engagement/Classic:https://store.steampowered.com/app/838310/Bloodstained_Curse_of_the_Moon/https://store.steampowered.com/app/1257360/Bloodstained_Curse_of_the_Moon_2/>>721949835Symphony of the Night and the Aria of Sorrow/Dawn of Sorrow games are an excellent starting point
>>721946081Why? Its fun
>>721950575no you posted this op so tell me why you feel this way
>>721950923I wasnt the one that posted it, just telling you so that you save yourself the time.
>>721951013Stop shilling your art slopster
>>721946081never played itcircle of the moon is bestthen bloodlinesthen adventure 2the rest are all shit
>>721951065I wish I was as good as that artist, I will post more of their work in future CV threads just to spite (You) specifically.
>>721948723unbelievably based and patricianpilled
>>721951181What a bizarre list, consider playing the other games too.
>>721951065HEYleave him alone, im OP, your beef is with meOoE is the worst Igavania because it has bad level design, a couple of bullshit bosses/encounters and a bad combat systemits not a bad game, but its significantly worse than the other Igavanias
I picked up the Advance collection recently on Switch as I previously bought CotM on WiiU and enjoyed it, Harmony of Dissonance is great so far.
>>721951320i played them, they sucked ass, especially aria of bland, and 4, and 3, and 1, and cringephony of the metroid-clone
Sell me on the series, which of the games have cute lolis?
>>721951406Based joy haver.
>>721948605I downloaded both of those images and will post them in every ooe thread going forward.
The fact that an official Castlevania artbook has never been made is heresy to the highest degree.
>>721946081I am glad my good taste makes you mad, OP
>>721951449Rondo of Blood and the N64 games.
>>721951498yes, go, continue my legacy, let OoEtards know their OoE has horrid level designi take FULL responsibility for your radicalization
>>721951516Thats right... Kojima never launched an artbook, Konami didnt either. Cringe.
I was way too hard on Curse of Darkness. I didn't make it very far originally and I didn't like the level design or the Innocent Devil system. Playing it again, I like it much more than my initial impression. I still think the level design mostly sucks.
>>721946215I never forgot that. A huge part of Ecclesia's appeal is precisely how it bats for Classicvania design a lot of the time over... ewww... M*troidvania...
>>721951653Better or worse than Lament of Innocence.
>>721951386Its fun>>721951248>I will continue shilling my art pretending ro be someone elseOkay?
>>721947646I love Portrait but it doesn't have exploration worth shit, you travel a straight path to a fork in the road where you can either go into a painting or a little further into the castle, that's it. You could argue it's a strength of the game since it allows there to be more focused and engaging enemy placement without becoming a chore since it's basically a string of linear levels and a few forks strung together rather than a hub, but exploration compared to a game like Symphony definitely lacks.
>>721947859>Soma looks more of a man than in the last gameHe aged backwards back to 10 years old in the face, took off his fur jacket and put on two pairs of belts and knee high white boots. Pretty gay.
>>721951838>Youre not allowed to post art that you like of other peopleBet you think all the other people posting art too are the artists samefagging as well dont you.
>>721951686IMAGINE thinking for even a second that OoE level design holds a candle to classicvania level design
>>721951653It's not a bad game, it's just the level design really hurts it since it's so repetitive
OoE isn't the nightmare dark souls game people make it out to be. It brings the difficulty that was missing from most metroidvanias at the time and I still had fun with the item drops, exploring, and side quests. Good game.
>zoomer revisionism now turning to OoE after their attempts to smear CotM failedJust stop fucking sucking and blaming the games, jesus. >>721947646 even says "artificial difficulty," no, you're bad. The games aren't even that hard.
>>721951630Thank you senpai, I will not disappoint you.
>>721951686Based>>721951939Cringe
>>721951937Nah i just know she specifically is a shill even if you aren't her fuck you for being a shills accomplice
>>721951838>Its funi didnt say it wasnt, i said its the worst Igavania, the worst Igavania is still better than the vast majority of Metroidvaniasbut the flaws of OoE are numerous and constantly get in the way
>>721951181good choices other than bloodlines
>>721951420Is that high-key rage-bait?
>>721952068>Cringehe is right, if OoE was a classicvania, it would the most piss easy of em all, and atleast in the classicvanias, your character doesnt have to cooldown for a year after every 7 attacks, holy shit that stupid combat system shouldve NEVER made it to release
>>721946081Playing it now for the first time and the structure just reminds me of Shantae and the Pirate's Curse. It's ok, but probably my least favourite DS title. You can tell that starting with Portrait of Ruin they really didn't want to make metroivanias any more
>>721946081For me its the one released right before it.
>>721952117Let me guess, 8 directional whip?
>>721951763It's been a long time since I played it last so I can't say too confidently, but I still think Lament is better. I should play it again.
>>721946081It's okay, you were just filtered.https://youtu.be/8bGA0y40_38https://youtu.be/hGyP1dWj4OYhttps://youtu.be/01MKxMAvSkAhttps://youtu.be/O-T_-EWkcHQhttps://youtu.be/D-3bKfXAayshttps://youtu.be/A0L4gvq-8f0https://youtu.be/peGqqGnUAAIhttps://youtu.be/Wqv6xtzY0t4God, I love Ecclesia so much bros.
Just downloaded a demo for Lords of Shadow 2 because it's 8 bucks for 15 more hours. Anybody around played it to share their experience with it? All I know is>forced stealth that sucks>more open-ended but lacks a cohesive map The second part was enough to pique my interest, a 3D game that actually does the Metroid-style thing would genuinely be pretty novel, since the IGA PS2 games sucked ass at that.
>>721949835I started with SotN then played the GBA and DS games. Gonna go back to classicvanias next
>>721946081Okay, but have you considered that I AM THE MORNING SUN, COME TO VANQUISH THIS HORRIBLE NIGHT!
>>721952292>It's okay, you were just filtered.i finished the game nigga, also Portrait and Symphony have better soundtrackhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyWTgLf-piEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0HVTx0gVho
>>721946081For what reason? What is the charge? Enjoying the best 'vania? A succulent Shanoa game?
>>721952292>Emerald Mist>H2 Exploration>Kitsch>R&C MetropolisI-I kneel...
>>721952268i'm not sure what you're guessingbloodlines' whip has less than 8 directions, and the whips from the other two (better) games have only 2 directions
Wrapping up OoE now. For me I'd rank the Igavanias asSotN > AoS > DoS > PoR > OoE > HoD > CotM
>>721946523>>721947805>Every castlevania map needs to be a clusterfuck.It makes no fucking sense for a swamp and a forest to look like Dracula's castle. It's not a "creature of Chaos", as Alucard said. It's just a fucking swamp and a fucking forest.Those aren't even long level and makes up maybe 2~3% of the whole game. The complaining about those handful of levels is a brainlet opinion from someone who knows jack shit about world building.
>>721949835Ignore all the other retard replies and just start with 1 and 3.
>>721952614People that hate on Bloodlines tend to be fans of CV4.Also what do you mean only 2 directions, CV4 whole thing is that you can whip in any angle.
>>721952117>>721952614what is you slander towards Bloodlines? why do you claim it is not good?
>>721952716nobody mentioned CV4, schizo-kun
Wait, castlevania fans hate metroidvanias?
>>721949835>all the replies urging him to jump straight into Metroid slopI'm ashamed of all of you niggas
>>721952790No, youre just on /v/, where fun isnt allowed and everyone hates everything.
>>721952790/v/ is full of shitposters.
I hated OOE for the longest time and never made it past a few hours before quitting until this year. Since the release of dominus I forced myself to beat the game playing an hour here and there every few weeks to a month as much as I could tolerate. Then I finally reached the castle and beat the rest of the game in two sittings and really enjoyed it from that point onward. At least I can say I beat it now and I can finally see why people like it, I'll probably never replay it because I don't ever want to replay trudging through the filler to get to the castle again.
>>721952659>SotN >Opinion discarded
>>721952790I like Castlevania the IP, not Metroidvania the genre. Couldn't care less about the 28346 indie games released annually that try to ape the franchise
>>721952171no, it's just the truth, sorry about your mass psychosis in thinking shit games are good just because a VERY vocal minority of brown fags like them
>>721952702thats a piss poor excusethe problem isnt JUST that the map is a straight line, but rather that, even within that straight line, theres fucking nothing, just a conga line of VERY EASY AND SIMPLISTIC enemies, games such as Valdis Story and Guacamelee have pulled forest/swap maps that are not linear and offer good combat and/platforming challenges>Those aren't even long level and makes up maybe 2~3% of the whole game.you are lucky i agreed to stop spaming OoE map images, because those are hardly the only linear maps, those are simply the the worst exampleseven when you FINALLY reach the castle, is a joke compared to every other game in the series
>>721946081Let me guess, the shadow boss killed you one too many times
>>721952790>metroid-likes*ftfyf
>he admits to having a folder full of Ecclesia shitpostingSchizos, not even once
>>721952998>I like Castlevania the IP, not Metroidvania the genre.I thought I liked metroidvanias because of castlevania but outside of like two castlevania clones not counting bloodstained I haven't enjoyed any of them. I eventually had to accept that actually I don't like the genre outside of castlevania.
>>721953245>Metroidfags complain that the Metroidvanias are nothing like Metroid>Castlevaniafags complain that the Metroidvanias are nothing like CastlevaniasThe duality of mankind, a cesspool of hatred and lies.
>>721952790There are indeed people that like Classicvania and don't like Metroidvanias
>>721952768bloodlines throws as much random shit at you as it possibly can, just chucking in a new set piece every 10 seconds with no cohesion or buildup or anything, and having so much variety also means that a lot of the set pieces are not very good. you just ignore how not-good they are because they last 10 seconds and you're easily distracted
>>721953198i beat the game, bitch
>>721953378Have you tried the Touhouvania 1 and 2 games? They are classicvanias with Touhou flavor. Classicvania difficulty included.
>schizo got filtered so bad he makes a shitpost folderTop lel
>>721953481Ah, you're an ESL. Excuse me then
>>721953378you might like Valdis Story, it has many playable characters, RPG elements and lots of equipment, good combat toothe last boss is a giant frustrating pile of shit, but its great up to that pointhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/252030/Valdis_Story_Abyssal_City/
>>721950224Play in this orderAnniversary collection>Adventures rebirth>Rondo of blood>Symphony of the Night>Advance collection>Dominus collection
>>721950160>>721950282>>721950758>>721952394>>721952708gay ass repliesif i wanted fossil games i'd ask /vr/imma start with lords of shadow 1 and 2wish me luck
>>721953679not a bad orderi would add, from the anniversary collection, you can ignore Castlevania 2 and the FIRST Castlevania the Adventure, they are dogshitCastlevania the Adventure 2 is actually kinda nice
>>721953525Damn I never heard of of those, they look really good and very vania esque, thank you for the recommendation.
>>721950282Insane to me how many of you aren't suggesting they start with CASTLEVANIA. Drives me nuts.
>>721953291>>721953526who are you referring to
>>721953651Looks pretty solid, I'll definitely check it out, thanks for sharing.
>>721953775please don't call it "the adventure 2". it's belmont's revenge, okay? it deserves to be distanced as much as possible.
>>721954093ok, i couldnt remember the full title and couldnt be arsed to look it up
>>721953761......a mega pint
>>721953761Noooo anon don't eat shit on purpose nooooooooo don't do it
>>721953761......based?
>>721947646holy shit I made that image fucking ages ago, thanks for saving my stupid meme mate
>>721952790they're mostly pretentious weebs who consume Fatlus shit
>>721952790I like both and I don't get the people who don't. If a game is good then it's good, simple as.
>>721953761>I am silly, give me attentionHere you go, anon, enjoy.
>>721947646>>721946285Portrait is to easy. It only is a little fun if you play exclusively as Jonathon only. Nice locations and variety, but the actual main castle sucks and the artstyle mega sucks.
>>721949835This.Perfect entryway for newbs.(It's also a fun game)
>>721955196
>>721955196OoE's art style is genuinely worse than DoS and PoR. I'd rather generic anime than the talentless hack Kojima impersonator they hired off of deviantart for OoE. If they couldn't get Kojima back for whatever reason they should have went in a different direction entirely.
Filtered
Arguing between the 3 DS games is like the opposite of arguing about Sonic games. With the latter all 3 are good while with the former they all suck ass
>>721956416nothing is worse than the DoS art style. It's not just the art style, PoR had the same art style but at least the character designs weren't offensive on the eyes
>some miserable piles of secrets always be tryna ice skate uphill what did Dracula Belmont mean by this
>>721947646>Strong female protagonistYes.jpg.I bought the game por after seeing Charlotte kick a mummy. I never felt so fucking lied to in my life
>>721956416Fucking LMAO you just went full retard.Hirooka wasn't impersonating Kojima because he's objectively above her skill level. Kojima isn't even that good, lil bro.
>>721956958>because he's objectively above her skill level.
>>721957116You don't know what you're talking about but it's all good, kiddo. Have your wrong opinion.
>>721956909>Charlotte can't even divekick, or super jump for that matterThe double jump animation is cute at least...
>>721956863Deacon Frostmont doesn't understand physics or ice skating.
That LoS2 demo was really short. Or maybe I was spoiled by the last game I played a demo for first, DQXI, which lasted for like 20 goddamn hours. I guess it's pretty standard compared to like, PS1 and 2 demos. Anyway, bought it and the story DLC since it's all 80% off until tomorrow. It's a little annoying it's still a glorified hack-n-slash/beat-em-up, but that's what the PS2 games were too, and I still enjoyed those for what they were. Just odd to me these games are so taboo, as if any of the prior 3D games were all that good, or weren't derivative.
>>721956771The sprites look okay in PoR, but Jonathon's coat is kinda retarded if you look too closely at it, and I have never gone for that schoolgirl.sailor outfit look that Charlotte has.
>>721958843Still beats "fire man with big red hair and flames up his jacket sleeves" and "foppy pinstripe bowlcut man who does literally one attack," though not exactly a high bar. I'll gladly take vampire titty bitches inspired by some manga and a Nosferatu knock-off inspired by a real dude anyday.
>>721956416>>721956958>>721957116All I know is that I do get tired of Kojima's artstyle even if I think it's gorgeous. There's room for other aesthetics in this storied series. I would prefer to have seen more from the OoT style.
>>721946508That's literally how women think of themselves as per their written works throughout all media...
>>721959614>I'll gladly take vampire titty bitches inspired by some mangaI wouldn't. Dario's design is really bad but Stella and Loretta are the worst designs from either game. It's like their color schemes were intentionally picked to look as obnoxious as possible.Also Brauner and Dracula's frontal view portraits look like they were assembled in Bitstrips or some shit.
>>721960737>I'll gladly take vampire titty bitches >I wouldn'tgay
>>721949835>classicrondo of blood (dont play the psp remake)>metroidvaniaaria of sorrow>3d lament of innocence disregard everyone else, especially that retard telling you to play 4 first
>>721961092Super CV4 has been the go-to rec for newbs for longer than you've been alive, there's nothing retarded about that. >Aria before SymphonyWhy
I haven't finished a 2D game in many years although I bought a number of them, Blasphemous, Contra Operation Galuga etc. What's the matter with me? I used to really enjoy the genre.
>>721961712playing shit games and expecting them to be good.most likely you already played the good ones and are looking something to live up to them, many people who are not huge fans (like autistically massive of a fan) of a genre can only play the best it has to offer before losing interest when they play titles that are not as good as them.
>>721961965That's how I felt about Bloodstained. Just a lesser version of Castlevania. And having a "hot" female protagonist isn't going to hypnotize me into playing.
>>721962068I liked bloodstained but I am a bigger fan of the genre so I can enjoy titles that are not just the best the genre has to offer.most people are like this about most genres, bigger genres have more top tier titles to play though so its less noticeable.Bloodstained isn't a top tier title, but its better than 90% of the genre offerings, if you have played the DS castlevania games and the other metroidania style ones its very hard for any other metroidvania to compete
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>Is actually challenging, unlike the prior 6 games>Has a better story than the prior 6 games>Hard mode is a lot of fun, changing enemy placement and even giving bosses new attacks>Actually breaks up the meta for once>Jump canceling no longer the best way to deal damage>Incentivized to either use different weapons or use two of the same weapon and learn the rhythm to maximize damage>Attacking rhythmically with the same weapon in each hand feels great>Effectively switched from a mana bar to a stamina bar (a fresh idea in 2008)>Blends both Classicvania and Metroidvania in its level design>Shanoa is a badassYeah, it's my favorite for sure.
>>721964407>Blends both Classicvania and Metroidvania in its level designOoE's level design combines the worst of both. If it was put in an actual classicvania game, it would be considered unacceptably low-quality.
>>721946081New games doko?
>>721961092>(dont play the psp remake)What's wrong with the psp remake?
>>721966826Not him but it looks like shit
>>721956958Hirooka is the better artist but Kojima's style fits castlevania better
SotN > PoR > AoS > Bloodstained > HoD > CotM = OoEi dont think any of them are bad. id say Ecclesia is a 6.
>>721946285These two deserved more games.
When I played PoR I basically never switched off of Jonathan. Did I do it wrong?
>>721966826it's just a worse version of rondo, both in terms of gameplay and visuals. it's still worth playing, but only if you've already played the other better castlevania games and want more
>>721946081My fav is Miriam's game
>>721952790I like castlevania, no indie game can compare not even Silkslop and I had high expectations
>>721952330I 100%'d it during COVID, but I remember very little about it except I was glad to be done. Mercurysteam is a funny developer, they started out mediocre and have made some of the dullest entries to two major franchises, but they have slowly grown to understand design very well. Their 3DS Castlevania, Mirror of Fate, was shit except for the very solid rendition of Simon Belmont's design, while Samus Returns is the least fun 2D Metroid, but Dread is probably the best controlling game in that series, despite its flaws. I think if they were to make those games today, they'd be an 8/10 at worst.
>>721952790Ironically there really isn't very many metroidvanias that play like Metroid or Castlevania, they just loosely use the interconnected map ideas. Nowadays most of them are just 2D soulslikes
>>721946081
>>721946081You shouldn't be talking about padded rooms with your degree of neuroticism, OP. You're more likely to wind up there yourself for worse reasons than what video game you prefer.
>>721965070The enemies flesh out the more linear areas, particularly on Hard Mode.
