How's your steel soul run going?
>poison cogfliesKek, the amount of people relying on cheese builds is just hilarious.
>>721970658GMS is the one character in this game that justifiably should've had huge knockers. There's no reason she needed to be built like pregnant Cibo.
>>721971129because it's 0 effort or thought and the only good way to get through steel soul safely.they didn't beat the game though
>>721971331>bugs>breasts
wow it's that one area from silksong>hidden behind a secret path>can't access it at all until I get double jumpof course
>>721971516You can get surprisingly far in the hive if you're willing to do some fucked up pogos
>>721971129Cogflies are not even that good, they're just low effort.
>>721971516I still remember how unfinished this area used to be.
>>721970658I'm not a giantessfag, but GMS should've been scaled like in this image. At LEAST the size of her full coccoon. To compensate, the boss fight should've taken place in the full Cradle room, with platforms and spikes appearing and disappearing throughout. That would've made her fight a bit less of a pushover. Binding her would've looked cooler, too.>>721971371I don't recall bugs having hair, either. Regardless, GMS is a higher being made of pure silk, and she absolutely NEEDS massive (grand) motherly tits.
>>721970658I don't know if I want to do a steel soul run. I definitely know that I don't want to do the 100% speedrun. How do you guys go for your steel soul runs? Do you go for the most broken shit you can get, Wanderer or early Architect spam or do you pick a meme like the Beast and do it like a proper challenge?
>>721971983most people just use fractured mask and quit out as soon as there's any risk of dying
>>721971129>poison cogfliesused it for savage beastfly 1 and the nigger on top of hunters march bc those gave me a lot of trouble early game. it was fun to watch them melt.they're great for exploring but they quickly become a crutch so i slowed way down on using them
>>721971983I play at my best with hunter, wanderer makes me play sloppy for some reason.Just use the mask and quit at any sign of danger.
>>721970658what exactly is steel soul mode?
>>721972138>>721972227I know about the mask and the Esc -> Quit to safely "die". That's not what I asked. I meant it as do you try to make it a challenge for yourself or do you pick the most broken build in the game to trivialize the challenge and do it like a chore?>>721972249Permadeath mode. You die, save file gets deleted. There are ways to avoid the save file deletion without keeping save backups, most famous way is escape quit when you are close to dying.
>>721971331Dw anon, her knockers will coke when she inevitably gets pregnant for real
Man the last thread was full of troonslop.
>>721971129I dunno, used normally I don't feel like it's much different than any other tool.>Stand on opposite side of the room, with almost zero risk of taking damage>Spam projectile tool>Throw out trap tool>Enjoy low risk bonus DPS>Pull out cogfly>Let it hit enemy>Enjoy low risk bonus DPS>"You didn't beat the game"
Does GMS have needolin dialogue?
I've got a decent route down now I just have to not be shit. Died in Shellwood.>start game>get 500 beads>get simple key>get crest of Wanderer>play the entire game without suffering level 1 Hunter's Crest>get 5 fleas to skip Moorwing>do Craw gauntlet to get Threadstorm >get to ShellwoodAnd I died while accidentally locked in a pick up animation. The plan was to do Phantom route to act 2
>>721972138Doesn't that defeat the purpose?
>>721972618Depends on what the purpose is>completing a no-death runYes>getting the achievementNo
>>721972343I just play a fun build from time to time and have fun seeing how far I can get, just tried twice so far, I don't actually expect to beat it.
did I just lock myself out of shit?
>>721972363God, I wish I was a higher being shota so I could impregnate this.
>>721972502>Confused by the "5 fleas to skip Moorwing" line>Look up how Moorwing is actually supposed to spawnDamn, I just fought him outside the Bellway station in act 2, that makes a lot more sense that he's guarding the way into Bellhart, that room always seemed weirdly empty until the fleas showed up
>>721972938Nah, some dialogue at most.That's triggered by breaking the first seal.
>>721971371Silk glandsI mean, if Lace is made of silk, surely they all have the power to give themselves giant silky knockers whenever they want
So why is Silk basically just Radiance? Is there some sort of lore connection or did they just run out of ideas?
>>721973024A troon drew this btw.
>>721970658Badly, I'm trying to speedrun it in 5 hours, and I still haven't got the wall jump.
>>721973139thank you for your input mister(or miss) troon expert
>the fucking bullshit platforming gauntlet above the cradlethis is the first time Ive actually gotten tilted at this fucking game, FUCK OFF. if there isnt a GODLIKE reward at the end of this shit Im fucking done.
>>721973190Overdose on plasmium.
>>721972969The best part about that fight is that they forgot to put in invisible walls
>>721972475It and tacks are about on the same tier of fire-and-forget free damage. Other tools at least require a modicum of positioning to hit the boss but those you can vomit at any time in any direction and they'll Just Work.
>>721973228thats not going to help when im .5 millimeters too close to the spikes after I clawline and have to start the entire sequence over again.
>>721973190enjoy your rosary beads
>>721973112the silk gland pores are located near the anus...Basically what you think is GMS' head, is actually her butt.
Trooobioooo vs Lace in a theatre kid contest
>>721970658about to start but.. I'll do another replay for routing for in case. don't want to use a guide
>>721973176Yuritrannies are not welcome, sorry.
>>721973129She isn't. Do you say that because she brainwashes people? I'm pretty sure all higher beings have the capacity to do that.
>>721973302It will help to not have to restart every time.
>>721973190It's literally impossible to die, there's a safe infinite silk farming spot.It's a thousand times easier than path of pain, just two short sequences before the boss, and for the double Beastfly at the end, just spam tools with architect, they don't have much health.
>>721973391Is a Hornet a furry?
>>721973190The journey is the reward, anon.Is does go a fair bit longer than it really needs to though. No single section is that hard, but you do have to get annoying consistent at the same clawline jumps over and over.Also what the other anon said, junkie mode was made for platforming over spikes. You'll obviously have to start over after a fuckup, but only from your last safe platform since health regens so quickly.
>>721973653No she's a fluffy
>>721973669I want to fluff her.
>>721973735Are you sure you know what that means?
>>721970658I'm doing regular speedrun, mist route. Just got to phantom with 1h50 game time, am I fucked? I died about 8 times from Sinners/Mist.
>play hollow knight 1 again after finishing SS>the knights movement and kit feel incredibly basic and boring>the level design seems really lacking tooevery metroidvania needs a fucking sprint at bare minimum
>>7219738483 hours is enough to get through Act 2, as long as you don't eat too much shit to High Halls gauntlet or Lace 2.
Movement wise clawline overlaps far too much with the dash, it should have been a swing or maybe even a pull.
>This one... The dark shall not take.>the countless vessels I murdered before meeting the Knight? Nah the dark can have them lmao.
>comfy ss threads are basically dead nowsadness. whens the next game that will rally the community together like this one did? cant think of any
>>721973190I thought it was ok, took me like 4 triespath of pain is the only thing in hollow knight that's harder than its silksong equivalent
>>721975128should have been multidirectional like metroid's grapple beam
Why can you not return to the white ward from the under works fucking terrible map design
>>721973534I mean in terms of gameplay
>>721973852the knight is much stronger, he doesn't need all of these gimmicks to compensate
>>721970658Can you faggots stop putting spoilers into the OP?>b-b-but it's been weeks!Yeah and some people have a life and can't speedrun the game in 3 days.
>>721976048Yeah honestly I really don't understand why they made white ward so annoying to revisit, can't come in from the underworks, can't go back to the first area without resetting the elevator, it's just annoying. There isn't much to do there so it's not that big a deal, but it's really annoying when you do want to revisit it to mop up the last bits of unfinished business and there doesn't really seem to be a good reason for it to be so annoying.
>>721976231If you don't want spoilers for popular new releases, you probably shouldn't browse forums where people are discussing them.
>>721976315I'm not saying you can't discuss spoilers, just don't put them into the OP. Is that really so hard to do?
>>721971983Hornet is flat
>>721976442Hornet+Lace naizuri when?
>>721976358Sherma dies in act 3
>>721971129>cheese buildsOf the 7? crests we get I wish a few were toolless.Fleabrew + Flintslate feels true and honest but the per-rest limits need lowering and having to re-visit the flea caravan is ass.
>get how the first sinner works on the second attempt>the answer is dashing and sprint attacks, always be on top of the fucker and keep hitting>only need to short jump over her own dash and horizontal needles, you can stay on the ground for everything else and dash into her the very second any summoned needles hit the ground>get super close 3 times in a row, but each time fuck up and get chained hit to death>realize that the reaper crest is too slow and it hampers my progress>switch for the wanderer for the first time>kill the bastard on the 2nd attempt (7th in total) with full lifeWanderer is my new best friend. Didn't have enough shards for multiple tools anyway.
>>721971129Everything is a cheese build if you're good enough.
>>721973852>t. literally everyone before they found Dashmaster
>>721973232For me, Moorwing glitched the fuck out on terrain somewhere and just froze in place until I killed him.Kind of felt robbed afterward.
>>721972363Why didn't Pale King just fuck this?
>>721976692I figured out how powerful wanderer is early on but honestly I just don't enjoy using it so I spent 99% of the game using hunter.
>>721976692hunter wouldve been a better pick for that strategy with the boosted dash attack its even easier to close space
>>721976791Void cucked him to it
>>721976791>fucked the White Lady to create a vessel to imprison Radiance>fucked Herrah in exchange for her becoming a DreamerDude doen't even care about laying massive amounts of pipe, he just does it to reach his own goals. I'm sure he would've gotten with Grandma, too, if he could get something out of it.
i hope the next game goes full gooner
>>721976682You're brown and underage.
>>721973852That's the ONE complaint about HK I agree with. Early game and exploration is way too limited. But I get why it's this way. Team Cherry didn't have 7 years of financial security to make HK like they had with Silksong, so they made HK as big as they could, then purposefuly slowed you down a bit at the start so you wouldn't immediately realize how compact the world really is. Once you get all the movement upgrades, travel becomes extremely fast, but because you had to work for it, it creates an illusion that it's because of your new powers and not because the world isn't as big as it seemed.
>>721976949already is
>>721976949>next game is the Hollow Knight equivalent of Magical Girl Konoha but with Lace going full chuuni and pretending to be a magical girl and trying to save a kingdom all by herself (only to get brutally raped the entire time)uoh
>>721976753At least it isn't Lugoli who teleports out of the arena and never returns if you're running too fast with the anklets when he's about to dive.
>>721976832I have 30 hours of Hunter (I really liked the new pogo, at least for a while), 20 of Reaper (extra silk, longer range and easy mode pogo seemed like a good idea, especially in fucking Bilewater) and now 2 hours of Wanderer. I'm about to finish act 2 soon. >>721976847Sure, but the arena is tiny and Silkspeed Anklets made me lighting fast already. I grew to love them a lot, that speed boost is a lifesaver.
>>721971983I play normally but whenever I fight a boss or a gauntlet I quit out as soon as I get hit once.
>>721976791He ended up in Hallownest instead of Pharloom. Tough luck for granny.
It's a bit of a shame there's no equivalent to the colosseum. I know a lot of people are desperate for a boss rush, but that sort of mode has never really appealed to me. Plus act 3 has so many back to back to back boss fights that I was starting to get sick of em near the end. Seth being immediately followed by Nyleth was particularly annoying.
When was I supposed to have started to care about this character? The game sure seems to think that I should.
First Sinner is fast, flashy and loud, it scares me
>>721977829Only the deranged yurifaggots care about her. She shows up like two times before the end of chapter 2, fewer than at least a dozen of other characters.
>>721977883I care about her.
>>721977829I mean, basically never. A lot of her lore is not really in your face, and all of her potential character development is up to be in a sequel (or DLC).Right now you should only care about why Hornet cares.
>>721977829worst part of the game by farespecially since we have to struggle so hard to save the cunt while my man garmond gets a pathetic end
Does every crest get an upgrade? I found an upgrade for the starting crest (i think) and none other so far. Also how tf do you get up there
>>721978082No, only the initial get upgraded twice, the other start with their special abilities
>>721977829It did feel a little off that she's completely absent for so long. I liked her well enough after her dialogue at the end of her second fight and her showing up to save you but it woulda been nice if she had made more appearances throughout the game taunting you cryptically. It would have made the reveal that she's jealous of Hornet for being more useful to grandmother silk than her more impactful.
>>721978250E1 thing is both not a boss and also Z-tier.
>>721978250and the worst of it, the flea juggle, not a single boss caused me as much grief as this shit.
>>721978250Still in act 2 and haven't found any of the S tier bosses except the gauntlet one, but if you put that Moth in rank A i assume this tier is shit because that bitch sucked
>>721978138They should really patch Eva's dialogue to make her more clear. It seems like most people assume they can upgrade all the crests after they first encounter her. It would also be nice if the game actually told you what the condition she wants you to complete is. I think it's gaining new masks but I never really got 100% confidence on that.
>>721978315Flea juggle is trivialized by Shaman crest.
>>721978347Its a point system, using memory lockets gives some points, unlocking new crests gives a lot of points. You dont need to max out lockets, but you do need every crest to get the final upgrade
Attacks made during invincibility frames should deal x5 times stun damage.
>>721978250>gay nigger cricket>s tierno lol
>>721971738>I don't recall bugs having hairMany species of spider very famously have hair, it's one of the most well known features of tarantulas for example.In fact, thousands of species of different insects and arachnids have what can be called hair, from ants to caterpillars.
>>721978250Dark Garmond might not really be a boss but he certainly killed me more times than most of the bosses did.
>>721977829Beyond having more screentime, I think people would have a real reason to care about her if she were more than jealous bitch with mommy issues and posessed redeemable traits. An anon suggested the idea making some of the town quests be anonymous requests that are actually from Lace, something as small as that would work wonders. As portrayed by the game right now, she's just this poor sociopath you kind of pity.
>>721978347> It would also be nice if the game actually told you what the condition she wants you to complete is.I think it's expanding crests with memory lockets.
>>721978469That nigga must've never seen a bumblebee.
>>721970658I'm towards the end of a second playthrough. Once I get to my third playthrough finished I'll start doing steel soulIf only so that I can constantly repeat the pleasure of unlocking pic related. The best to ever do it
>>721971331She is infertile
>>721978082With an ability you get at the start of Act 3.
>>721977870It's supposed to intimidate you. If you keep being aggressive, you will make it your bitch. Dash towards it and hit it with sprint attacks. It has 5 attack types and all are easy to dodge. Look where the needles/explosions will go and dash/jump away, then the second they land/go away hit the fucker with a dash attack. Dush under it when it's in the air, then dash back to hit it. Soam attacks when it stands still for a moment and summons needles or tries to bind. Phase 2 just adds some speed and rune explosions (easy to dash away from or jump over). Repeat.
>>721971983Apart from savescumming, getting fractured mask and basically prioritizing clearing the map for each act. Obviously getting stuff like pale oil and silk hearts ASAP. Masks don't matter that much imo
>>721972489no
>>721972502>>start game>>get 500 beads>>get simple key>>choose to not winodd strategy
>>721978821I found it fun to keep fishing for her with the clawline, it's also perfect to interrupt her healing.
>>721973232They didn't forget. If you goof around with it too much Moorwing can permanently destroy one of the platforms.
>>721977829For what they were going for, Phantom , GMS and Lace should've had more screentime/development/things to do. Lace knows she replaced Phantom and thus is afraid Hornet will do the same to her. For what is Lace's main motivation , her relationship with Phantom is quite underdeveloped, reduced to a needolin scene. Supposedly she feels sorrow for Phantom as they share the same burden , but she doesn't even react when you kill her.
>>721971516>can't access it at all until I get double jumpcompletely untrue>>721971538>fucked up pogoscompletely realistic pogos.>>721978250you're shit at the game and also don't know what a boss is if the arena mob is in S tier
>>721979105The High Halls gauntlet is the most difficult boss in the game, doofus
>>721979087The three Silk Hearts you get should have been from Lace 1, Phantom, and Lace 2, and the memory segments associated with them should have had them speaking. The fact Lace 2's Silk Heart scene has GMS dialogue puts even less emphasis on Lace as a character.Instead we get them from>The Unravelled>Lace 2>Bell Beast for some god forsaken reason
>>721979194literally not what the tier list placement implies and while I like the arena it's absolutely not more challenging than some Act 3 bosses, especially with the countless ways you can make that specific arena fight easier
>>721979087GMS is supposed to be a complex villain but she really comes across as one note. I assume she created Lace and Phantom with their particular nature for them to be reliant on her, curtesy of the weavers betrayal. And at the end of the day she still loves her daughter (because Phantom can suck it I guess) and her sacrifice would have more of an impact ... if we knew anything about her relationship with Lace. GMS is built up a lot only to be a bit of a nothingburger. What evils did she exactly commit? Why does she attack Hornet? What was her personality like? One thing that is interesting , is how will Lace wrestle with the guilt that she indirectly killed her own Mother (or trapped in the void, like that's much better)
>>721979197>Bell Beast for some god forsaken reasonThe game relies on you always having at least one pip of silk, so they gave one to you as early as possible, aka after the first non-tutorial boss. Or at least that's what I assume the logic was.
>>721979306You can severely weaken the Watcher knights with a simple switch, doesnt diminish the fact that their intended difficulty was the highest in the game until godhome
Some enemies are really hardly fought. For stuff like the 2 chef bugs, or juror craws, do you have to repeatedly quit out of boss fights to meet the Hunter's Journal requirement, or does beating the boss complete entries for characters you seem to otherwise only fight in a boss arena?
>>721979374Was it...? They're not even hard.
>>721979197Lace1 is missable tho, they should change that.
>>721979447took me a few tries but i have a very aggressive and impatient playstyle
>>721979497Lace 1 is technically only missable because the other places where she catches you remove her fight. I don't see why she couldn't fight us on the broken bridge. it'd make for a fun twist on her fight that if you fall off the bridge, you both lose the fight and she fucks off because she's successfully delayed you like she wanted.
>>721979374>their intended difficulty was the highest in the game until godhomeyou needed an invincible dash to defeat a 2-at-most boss that either rolls at you (with a distinct visual cue) or jumps at you (with a distinct visual cue)? lmao replay HK and see for yourself the outrageously easy difficulty that people complained about. fucking aspids required the player to simply look at the screen and the fanbase lost its mind
>>721979447They were harder than everything else in hollow knight. The high halls gauntlet is a spiritual successor of that, juggling multiple enemies in an extended endurance sequence. Of course just like high halls it could be very easily trivialized with game knowledge, but games arent designed around people knowing all the cheese
>>721979387>or does beating the boss complete entries for...yes, because they did think that through.t. second-tried karmelita
>>721979646just generally doing other stuff in Act 2 isn't cheese like the completely-hidden breakable ceiling was in HK
God how I long for a fight replay, man.
>>721979692Soooo the only missable I can think of in that case aside from Garmond would be the Palestag in Verdania?
>>721979350Lace is also near the start of the game, they could have made defeating her then give you a silk heart, would have also made sense why she runs away despite being tough enough to stand in your way at the end of act 2 when you have all the abilities.
>remember charge attack exists>defeat boss next try
Were silkhearts supposed to be something bigger originally? For quite a lot of show they don't really do all that much
>>721979447They're very hard if you get to them as early as possible, they're about average with the shade cloak or a fully upgraded nail.
>>721979820Look, I'm not saying it makes sense, that's just the only logical explanation I can think of. I assume they were concerned that players could miss the heart by going a different way.
>>721979814missables in the journal don't affect the achievement or anything but there's also the Shakra fight which is decently fun
>>721979897>they don't really do all that muchwith all 3 and weavelight you get to use your silk skill for free which is cool
>silksong thread>look inside>anti-Lace, anti-yuri, brown schizo replying to himself againHe didn't even play this game judging by his posts, why did he get so obsessed with this particular character?
>>721979884Which crest has the best charge attack? Shaman?
>>721980061nah I know about that one, there's some stuff that just goes away past act 2
>>721979374Desolate Dive trivializes the fight, it's specifically made for "room full of guys" fights. Just use it like a parry when you're boxed in.
>>721980219How long did it take you to recover from bottom surgery?
>>721980219>y-you're brownWhat's that? Can't take criticism?
>>721970658The protagonist of Hollow Knight 3 has to fulfill certain requirements>small enough, somewhere between Knight and Hornet>extraordinary creature that is more than just a regular bug>some involvement in Higher Being shenanigans to grant a unique perspective on happenings in whatever kingdom they land in>striking character design (sorry Lace)I present picrel.
>>721980219I mean anti yuri is based And not like yurifags are not doing same circlejerking and samefagging
>>721980897maybe it's just me but habbo... er, hasbin hotel ruined the grimm aesthetic for me
>>721980993Yeah I get what you mean, but I really can't see another possibility. Lace is too juvenile and would just repeat the Silk/Weaver crap.
>eslGrim.
>>721978469>>721978556It's obvious that bugs have body hair, but I was clearly referring to GMS's impressively luscious locks. Bugs don't have head hair the way GMS does.
>721981163retard bro...
>>721980897Zote will be the protagonist in HK3It was one of the Kickstarter milestone
>>721980897How about it's the Hollow Knight and every single room is nothing but breakable walls because that's the only way he can fit through the doorways
>passive aggressive single meme arrow replyGrim.
Why was he such a jobber?
>>721981301I wish HK had a short DLC/prequel game where we undergo the HK's training, briefly playing as him (in mini-form and Pure Vessel form) and getting to see Hallownest in its prime before being sealed away in the Black Egg.
Finally dine itLost Lace and First Sinner are god tier fights Still missing one Memory Locket for Shaman Crest, tho
>>721981253That stretch goal wasn't reached so they aren't obligated to fulfill it in some form like they did with Hornet.>>721981301>Hollow Knight Bananza..
>>721981163>>721981371Stop slandering the Nightmare King
>>721981450was meant to be an early game boss that got shoved lategame
>>721981485Бaзa.
>>721981163>>721981371Anon take your meds or at least post numbers
>>721981450Maybe the real boss fight was the mobs we fight along the way
>>721981450I killed him first try, but he was fun.
>>721981485Aтлишнaя paбoтa чyвaк. Дyшнoвaтo хoть гдe-тo былo?
In the end she really cared for her kids (well at least one of them)
>>721978250the single conehead fly is such an annoying piece of shit
>>721981580This but unironically. Just like the real bossfight with Nyleth is Seth.
never playing your roastie game fuck off and make a general >>>/vg/
>>721979596>fucking aspids required the player to simply look at the screen and the fanbase lost its mindhollow knight fanboys dont play games anon. they watch sloptubers and streamers and parrot their opinions and make whatever games they suck off (hk) their entite personality without ever playing them
>>721981643Cyдья и пapa oпциoнaльных бoccoв, нo этo мoя винa, я нe иcпoльзoвaл инcтpyмeнты. Блaгo пoтoм я иcпpaвилcя и нaчaл иcпoльзoвaть их чaщe.
What a shit game
>>721981757This entire line ruined everything about Hollow Knight for me. Look at her. Look at her succulent curves and tell me this wasn't specifically designed to elicit arousal. Tell me this isn't bait to make you desire used goods. Team Cherry is full of cucks. Every single one of those australian fucks played us for fools, making sure to design the sexiest creatures known to man, only to be met with the gut punch that they're used goods with gaping vaginas taking black cock every single day. I can't imagine the state of all Hornetfags out there who have actual standards, the hurt they must be feeling knowing their wife wasn't saving herself for them. The chinese review bombing wasn't enough. We need every possible language to review bomb these dirty fucks for taking away the purity of our bug wife. I will not be able to sleep until this justice has been undone. Make them patch it out. Make them listen to the fans for fucking once.
>>721981836I say this
>>721981643That's her mask, her mouth is behind it.
>>721981485the act 3 lockets are above bellhome (use ability) and right of the karmelita door, assuming you got all others
>>721979897its team cherrys lore autism. doing stuff like clawline or needolin would require a string of silk, so they need hornet to have silk available to do these things, even when there are no enemies around. the logical solution would be to just handwave the lore implications for the sake of gameplay and let you just use the abilities, but team cherry fucking love making gameplay worse in the name of lore, so instead you get an underwhelming upgrade that puts your clawline on an awkward mini cooldown and no one wins except mossbag and the retards who watch his videos without ever having played the game
>>721981864
>>721978914You're out of your skull if you think that level 1 Hunter > WandererEspecially early game with a lot of pogo puzzles but no wall jump
>>721981485First Sinner was great but I can't understand people who praise Lost Lace. Its a fight where I did not feel like I should be doing anything else BUT actually fight the boss.
>>721981904>that puts your clawline on an awkward mini cooldownholy fucking retard even at the current regen rate it's exploit-tier movement
>>721981896I found both of them, I probably missed one in Act 1 and 2
>>721981971its strong, the cooldown is just stupid because all it achieves is making you awkwardly dangle in a ring on mt fay for a couple of seconds until you can use it again. theres no reason to just let you spam it outside of wasting your time (something this game is obsessed with doing)
>>721980897I dislike that idea because it would confirm the bad (if cooler) ending to the grimm troupe.It might be the plot against the nightmare heart, but I'm not convinced.
>>721981937??? poor use of English my friend
>>721979197>Bell Beast for some god forsaken reasonI kind of assumed the silk heart was what was producing the silk holding Eira in place
>>721981489>That stretch goal wasn't reached so they aren't obligated to fulfill it in some form like they did with Hornet.Neither was the Colosseum, what I mean is, if it was a milestone, it's because they already had plans about it
>>721982031you get your 1 silk refunded when you harpoon one of the stationary enemies in Mt Fay. You are retarded and you could have just used weavelight to compensate for your shittery, but you didn't!
What is this? I've uncovered the entire map except for this little vertical shaft. You can't even superjump into it because hitting up triggers the Bellhart sign right below it.
>>721982125>the game is bad on purpose and youre just retarded for thinking its bad!why does every defense of silksong amount to this
>>721971129I find Curvesickle and Conchcutter more effective even without poison. Got Skarrsinger with the Quick Sling and architect crest like 2 tries
>>721982031Not having a cooldown would be broken for a thousand of reasons, you have to be a retard not to realize that.
Well, I'll see you in 6-8 months for DLCProbably it will be about lifeblood or steel kingdom
>>721982246>Not having a cooldown would be broken for a thousand of reasonsname one (1) such reason
>>721982174You're making it too obvious, try harder, brown bro.
>>721981485What crest and charms were you using?
>>721982256>steel kingdomwhy do people have such big expectations from the dlc? hk's dlcs were extremely light aside from godhome. well get a couple of dlcs that amount to one quest and a bossfight, and then a godhome analogue
>>721982152Well the edges are a different resolution to the real areas on the map thus we can conclude it is a non-existant area added in MS paint, by you.If you have any other questions let us know.
>>721982378No, it's just the garbage interactive map on fextralife.
>>721982276It would allow you to always fly through the map in an almost straight line, it would also make platforming mistakes trivial.As it stands, clawline is already incredible and you can use it constantly if you have at least one braincell.
>>721982372people think about the cumulative gamechanges from HK 1.0 to all DLCs which was very much significant even without Godhome.
>>721982372Godhome is obvious and probably will be the last one. What I meant by Steel Kingdom is not that I want new kingdom like Pharloom, but just new content for existing map like with Grimm Trope.
>>721982152>>721982483use mapgenie STOOPID
>>721982490just refund the silk/instant cooldown if you hit something then, so you cant chain clawlines into nothing
>>721982372And in any case, I want coral kingdom.
>>721981864Yeah, but its still hot.
>>721982624it fucking does already you absolute SHITTER holy christ
considering HK got a couple bosses added, what areas do you think will get a boss battle, or perhaps what new dream bosses? I have a feeling they might add a hidden boss in a new section of the Abyss
>721981757>721981793>721981836Uh oh tranny is having a meltdown
>>721982624That's already how it works, if you hit an enemy you get silk back.
>>721970658The fact the devs don't care if you mod makes this game based
I like when people draw the cloak fluffy underneath
So only the Pale Beings are able to make GMS's weavers pregnant. Why she made them sterile?
>>721982804Fluffy Hornet
>>721981253And it wasn't reached for a reasonFUCK Zote and FUCK you
>>721982683>>721982715holy shit you fucking ESL illiterates. hit SOMETHING, not just an enemy. a wall or a ring.the anon who said HK's popularity was owed to being cheap and playable and shit hardware so 3rd worlders lapped it up was spot on
>>721982693I sincerely hope the first DLC fleshes out Act 3.
>>721981450Too honest
>>721982904That sounds even more retarded, you dumb brown ape. Just stop embarrassing yourself already.
>>721972475>Struggle with the game>"Just use the tools retard, that's what they exist for">Use the tools>"You didn't beat the game"Such is the struggle...
>>721982904imagine reddit-spacing and pretending to not be a shitter newfaggotbye-bye spergy!
>>721982693The Mist boss. Arena has no floor, falling off the platform / spike balls pops Hornet out of either the left, right or roof of the arena (stunned and likely to take contact damage with spike balls and or the boss / mooks). The boss is a big evil wraith witch or whatever.
>last DLCs>it's actually Act 4/Epilogue>it all about how Hornet and Lace are trying to leave Pharloom together
>>721982986Goomba fallacy.
>>721982810The hollow knight universe disapproves of morganatic unions. Once the weavers were ascended to near higher being status they were no longer able to breed with normalfags.
>>721983002Not relevant to what you're saying but The Mist felt like a really really cool area when I... "missed" the previous 2 areas' maps and had absolutely no idea where I was.
>>721983085She could've just ascend male species as well
>>721982810>Elevate spiders into advanced silk-wielding weavers>They can only successfully breed with pale beings>Weavers are basically obligate gold diggersWhat did GMS mean by this
>>721983165I imagine something bad would happen from that considering it would basically be GMS trying to clone herself via ascended bugs.
>>721983028Where will they go? Hornet says she's a daughter of hallownest, so she probably wants to go back, but there's also all that city of steel stuff.
>>721983305Don't forget about their childish fit then they found out about, which costed them their lives in the end
>>721983028>I must attach a tranny fanart to my retarded fanfics
>>721983028Uhhhhhhhhh just fast travel to Blasted Steps and walk away?
>>721982889Wash your mouth by reciting the 57 precepts
>>721983434Steel fuckers are want to talk with you, they won't accept no for an answer
>>721982613Mapgenie also has that shaft, but it seems like there's nothing in it.
>they cut the bad ending in Act 2why?
What's with "tranny this, tranny that" poster?
>>721982152Must’ve thought you were clever. Still respect the audacity.
Hollow knight 3 will show a human's corpse, screencap this.
>>721983525mapgenie elaborates because that's what a competent community-sourced-map-resource does
>>721983078What's the Goomba fallacy?
>>721981450His theme more than made up for his jobber fight.KRUST KANG GANG.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp8xVVwsfoc
>>721983660Local schizo, just ignore. Lucky he's not spamming CP yet.
>>721983660you gayshipping
Great game, but difficulty just randomly spikes sometimes for no reason. Maybe I just getting old.
>>721983756thinking /v/ is one person
>>721982049>Except fight the boss.
>>721983756hearing two contradictory opinions from the internet and believing it's one person holding them, rather than two people.
>>721980993It's not TC's fault Vivzie copied their character design wholesale.
Act natural, don't overreact
>>721977095
>>721984083Oh, so this meme?
>>721980897
>>721984290
Why bugs act like Grimm is bad? I think he actually helps bugs by eating their nightmares.
>>721983756stomping... KOOPAS
>>721978568it gets ruined by double jump
>>721984465Why are certain animals considered bad omens? Grimm pops up at ruined kingdoms so his arrival means shit's fucked.
My bell is a very, very fine bell. I decided to paint it blue to signify how different I am from everybody else in town.
>>721981253>Hollow Knight: Master of Steel>Zote is abducted by servants of the City of Steel who mistakenly assumed he was the titular Hollow Knight (they only had "Black warrior with a white mask, clad in a grey cloak, and wielding a nail" as a description)>Once they realize their mistake they just dump him in the City of Steel's trash basket and leave him there>In the trash, Zote find a dying Higher Being who give him the last of his power to take revenge on the City>Zote must learn to use his powers, climb back to the City of Steel and defeat each of its Masters, along the way triggering a popular revolution that may or may not end up with him as the Master of Masters
>>721984290AWOOOO>>721984296Yes.
>>721983570The act 2 bad end was a "didn't bind GMS on kill" end.Have you seen the IQ of posters here? If you had the choice to not bind, most players would have done that by accident because they don't pay attention to anything. They'd all be seething about being "forced" into a "confusing" shitty ending "through no fault of their own".Think of all the people who beat Last Judge and immediately took their hands off the controls like fucking retards.
>>721984734Wear a blue cloak then.
>>721984465He, or rather his heart, enslaves bugs, seed his flames in the hand of monsters and feasts with the dreams of a past kingdom to prolong his existance.Also higher beings can generally be ominous, especially ones as self-centered as him.
>>721975781Scrubs that are on their way to fuck shit up even more aren't worth keeping alive
>>721984013>>721984083In this case, I don't think that it's two different groups of people, but rather the appearance of incompatible stances that are actually compatible. There is a very common sentiment that tool spam in general and certain tools in particular are cheesey and that beating a boss like that is a lesser achievement. But that doesn't mean that people who believe that think using tools at all is cheesey.So a person could see someone struggling and advise them to use tools. And then when they see them overdosed on lifeblood with poison tacks and cogflies, that same person might tell them they didn't beat the game.
My head canon, Trobbio is an ex Grimm Troup member who was kicked out because he was too gay even for them
I just beat First Sinner and the little flashback cutscene of a little spider turning into a Weaver was so cool
>>721978967You got a video of this? Is it scripted?
Who was the twat that had the idea of mapping tools to Up+R1?I lost count how many times i died because the game used the skill instead, wasting my silk so i cant heal. Extra mad right now because i was a few hits away from 1st trying Phantom and dying because of this bs.
>>721985308Can't you rebind the controls?
>>721985308>eating shit to simple inputsDo retards really?
>>721985436Rebinding is yuritroon behavior. Fuck that.Team Cherry need to fix their fucking game.
>>721985513You don't rebind your controls ever? Why not?
>>721981253>>721984807Didn't they register a name about foxes?
>>721985458Not him but this shit happens constantly. When you are frantically trying to press buttons, having a 2 button input should be a crime. Everything a game expects you to do quickly should be one button.
>>721985308remove silk skill, theyre useless
>>721985646>Running takes 2 buttonsDid this filter you as well?
>>721985646I'm so tired of people like you inventing these autistic codes of honor and pretending they represent an objective standard of game design.It's all mental gymnastics to protect your ego.
>>721985824go the fuck back holy shit
>>721985718Shut up, 12th. You're dead.
>>721984583>ruined*improved
>>721983660This is a board for children
>>721985867Seethe and cope, shitter.
>>721985867He's right, complaining about 2-button inputs is sad. I think Silksong is mostly bullshit and I still think you're washed.
>>721985867filtered tranny seethe
>>721985308This but Down+R1
I'm at the Act 3 bosses. If I beat them and then Lost Lace I'll have beaten Steel Soul without save & quit.
>>721980279Architect. They even nerfed it but it's still the best one.
>>721984583Double jump is why it's so good>any slight graze during it's animation applies full damage>double jump gets cancelled immediately into other animations. Can (close range) dive with it, can silkshot with it, can silk skill with itPerfect in every way
Have you bros taken your mandatory break today ? I just finished taking a 16+ hr break after dying once to Widow. The day before I took a 10+ hr break after dying to Widow. Don't forget to take breaks bros ! Everytime your heartrate goes up or ur palms become sweaty, take a break ! This is how we overcome the mountain ! With many little steps !
>>721980897Good choice but it'll be Portrait of Ruin with Lace and Hornet.Fuck Zotefags.
>Architect crest has 3 red slots, and 2 of the others>Shaman crest has 3 silk slots and only 2 blue>Locked until after visiting the abyssWhy do they persecute us so, snailbros?
>>721986301silksong is so fun my favourite thing to do with it is not play it!
>>721986301french punctuation detected, opinion discarded
How would you fix the balance issue of blue charms being twice as useful and plentiful as yellow charms?
>>721986232You know what's really dumb? Hunter has to be focused for its charge attack to be comparable in damage to architect's and wanderer's.
>>721986168The Act 3 bosses are easy enough, they don't actually kill you if you lose to themFor Lace just practice her on your regular run
>>721986301You joke but Silksong is the first game I can remember where I did have to say "ok I'm getting fatigued and tilted, time to go cook dinner or run some errands at the store or something, I'll come back tomorrow." Got the 100% completion in 68 hours. I do not consider this a good thing desu. Game is really fucking aggravating.
>>721986498I'm quite sure that's intended, particularly the disparity in usefulness. It allows for people to use stuff like compass and the rosary magnet without feeling like they're gimping themselves.
>>721977829When she OHOHOHOs in the first encounter.
yeah but the games not hard bro it's just tedious. it's fucking boring. it's actually really easy, because all you have to do is hit the boss, but the makers of the game made it so you have to hit the boss like, a thousand times. so it's not hard, but it's just tedious, and fucking boring. but it's not actually difficult at all bro. i beat hollowknight one 112% apb with all bindings ten times bro, but silksong is really tedious. ya it's so fuckinmg boring man.
>>721977829You're supposed to care about her?Honestly I don't care for any of the Silksong cast so far
>>721982810Interesting, they seem to wanted to draw a paralel between her and Lace&Phantom. All 3 artifical life, all 3 do not value it
>>721986579It's definitely a hearty game, jam packed with things to do. Team Cherry for sure put those years to use.
>>721986726except youre gimping yourself out of other qol stuff. yellows should just be integrated into hornets inherent kit, with the handful that arent qol (dice) made blue. faster running could be an upgrade you find somewhere
>>721986498How is that an issue? They're split specifically because of all the fags who cried about the compass taking up a charm slot in HK. Just make the dice blue and you're golden.
>>721971129It's the closest thing that Silksong has to spirit ash summoning from Elden Ring, so it's only natural that casuals flock to the option that plays the game for them so they never have to learn how to.Tools in general are quite good and situationally broken, but poison cogflies and tacks work in almost any situation with little to no input on the player's part.
>>721985646all games should have DP inputs and 360s
MODS I RECOMMEND"I" KEY OPENS INVENTORY NEEDOLIN REGENERATES SILK (WHEN USED ON ENEMIES)FLOAT KEY REINTEGRATION
>>721970658PLEASE, i forgot to save an image of someone posting their drawings of Hornet where she yells SHAW, anyone halp me find it
>Silksong locations darktown, dusty brown, brown swamp, brown swamp, brown swamp, dark place, dark corridor, darker place another brown swampOh boy can't wait for some more brown crust locations to explore
>disingenuous garbageheh... silkKEKS BTFO'd the fuck out!
>>721987008The hidden cost of the cogflies is visual noise, throw a few down and you can't see what the fuck is happening anymore
>>721987289
>>721987024The development of modern control in SF6 proves you wrong
>>721971983I went for the earliest possible wanderer, got the fractured mask after getting sprint and then went up bellhart through shellwood, used the speedrun route from bellhart onwards to clear the game since I wanted the speedrun achievement and then I started clearing the map by going into deep docks first for the flintstone tool (I used the dart tool and the healing protection until this point).Final build is wanderer with flintstone, trobbio mirror + speed heal + longclaw, lucky dice + extra tool pouch + whatever
>no shaw in the gamesad
>>721987407Outside of Greenpath and Fungal Wastes, the first game was even worse in this regard.
>>721985079The Knight was on his way to do just that yet she let him go.
>>721987540THATS NOT THE ONE, WHERES THE NEEDLE AND HER GOOFY FACE?
more games need runbacks to filter the normgroids
>>721986579Then you aren't playing very many good games. The frustration is an essential part of the joy of getting good. Anything you can just slam yourself into a few times and overcome provides only the most hollow satisfaction. Mastery takes time and effort and it can be frustrating; things worth mastering will demand frustration of you.
>>721987913games should be permadeath only
>>721987937Nah I spent 4 hours on Arlecchino during the summer and wasn't even half as tilted as I was fighting through Coral Tower which took only about half that time. Silksong is just obnoxious.
>>721971983>>721987775>reach Steelsoul Act 3>die to Bell Eater because I was stubbornI feel liberated. No Steelsoul 100% for me, I can move on.
>>721987810City of Tears and Crystal Peak.
>>721987810Elaborate.
>>721988108Coral Tower is pretty cool, it's mostly just disappointing for not being AS cool as the Trial of the Fool.
I have no ideea what this is saying , but the Koreeans sure are creative
>>721988156No.
>>72198740730% of the map is a fucking gleaming city of gold you disingenuous fuck. The only reason "brown swamp" and "other brown swamp" feel like half the game is the amount of time you spent eating shit in Sinner's Road and Bilewater.
>>721987937Getting to retry fights is dishonest game design.
>>721988280What else is Kratt thinking of?
>>721988174Coral Tower sucks. Stop conflating ragebait with fun. If you can only be stimulated by how much anger you're feeling, it's time to check into rehab because gaming is now an addiction moreso than a hobby.
>>721988053The game should come with a tiny little hammer that hits you in the balls irl every time you die.
>>721988281More like gleaming city of decaying shit
>>721988053is this how you’re going to cope? by pretending you’re hard ore and didn’t get filtered?
>>721977829right around this part
>>721988174>Coral Tower is pretty coolA bunch of disjointed arenas is not pretty cool wtf is cool about it?
>>721988174I really liked it.
>>721988483the areas were fun
>>721988357Coral Tower does not suck. It's just less good than Trial of the Fool because the arena modifications are less interesting.The standard bearer for "shitty silksong arena matches" should be High Halls, High Halls is actually pretty ass, most of the enemies are irritating to fight because they fly, the finale is borderline bullshit without tool spam (bad luck with attack pattern RNG can well and truly make it unwinnable) and it's mandatory for rolling the credits.Coral Tower is optional, most of the enemies are fun to fight, and the environments being dynamic makes each encounter feel interesting, at least by the third chamber (the first two drag a little bit, but that was true of Trial of the Fool as well, the beginning was basically a warm up).Imagine unironically getting tilted at Bloody Palace.
>>721970658Scuttling should've just been a default move you unlock, with the Scuttlebrace being used to enable it in the air and turning any on-wall dash into a scuttle.
>>721987865Because he KICKED HER ASS.
>>721988357coral tower is based and fun and makes shitters shit their pants in seething anger
>>721988559>Scuttling should've just been a default move you unlockIt kind of is, isn't it? It seems like it's just a reskinned sprint with slightly altered properties.
>>721988206
I wonder how many people found the way to perma-kill the silk absorbing enemies before doing the high halls gauntlet
>>721988357>coral tower>ragebaitIt's not even that hard, though. Seth and Nyleth tilted the shit out of me. But coral tower was actually fun.
>>721988683The what?
>>721988747There's a secret way to delete the cone spider things that drain your silk to make silk torpedoes to chuck at you. I don't actually know if it removes them from the gauntlet at High Halls though, but it does stop them from spawning randomly.
>>721988747there's a semi-hidden area right before high halls, with laundry baskets in it and infinite spawning silk absorbersif you push one of the baskets to the right position you can enter a hidden area, where you can permanently remove all the silk absorbers from the entire citadelif you do that they don't show up during the high halls gauntlet
>>721988747The silk sucking spider things. There's a room in high halls where you can disable them. And it's accessible before the gauntlet.
>>721988862Well damn that wouldve been nice, they were annoying when grinding the big guys in the long hallway.
>>721988845Yes, once you deactivates them they disappear completely, and your journal get auto-filled
>>721988870>>721988845>100% the game>never found thisBros...I didn't beat it.
>>721988990"100%" is so fucking notional in Silksong and it really pisses me off. You can 100% the game without even beating all of the game's bosses or completing all of the game's quests, never mind finding every room on the map.
>>721988990Yeah same, I kinda hate how they made 100% the max percentage yet there's still so much to find and do beyond it, just make everything count.
If he wasn't locked behind so much tedium Groal that you feel obligated to cheese him rather than engage with his mechanics Groal would be an A or B rank boss instead of an F.
>>721986301>>721986465Samefag
>>721988587That makes him even more dangerous than the others. A vessel that strong is way more likely to break the seals and should be eliminated asap, but she just fucked off.
>>721988553>It's just less good than Trial of the FoolI don't think /v/ has ever fellated a dev as hard as this before? Wtf is happening?
>>721988683I found it but only after doing it. I pretty much realized that a secret room was there but could not reach it without double jump, which I did not have at the moment, so I was stuck doing the fucking arena with all the enemies.
>>721989119go back
>>721989058It's simple, if it make your character stronger, it counts towards 100%So tools, masks, silk skills, spools, pouch upgrade... that's what the game count
>>721989150Or it makes him more capable to take in the Radiance? Or short of that taking over as the new vessel for it
>>721989160>Wtf is happening?people who dont play games heard from streamers (who also dont play games) that hk was a masterpiece, so they spent 7 years building their personalities around it while never playing it (maybe like 30% of them got the first ending). part of this involved constant posting and discussion about silksong. theyve been invested in this game for over half a decade before it ever even came out. acknowledging it as anything less than the greatest game of all time would be to acknowledge the emperor is naked, because it would be admitting all that time they spent on r/silksong coping about how the delays were because the game was going to be so huge and amazing and worth the wait was just a waste.now, right on cue, theyll reply to this post saying i was filtered, telling me to git gud, or whatever other unoriginal shit cope they have in their playbook for defending their hack dev kings
>>721989160Trial of the Fool was fucking awesome, are you high? I actually and legitimately wish that we got a Silksong DLC that was just an endless roguelike Trial of the Fool that shat out rosary + shard rewards based on how many waves you survived.>Pick some enemies>make some modifications to arena size + hazards>set some spawn timers/wave sets>add in random gimmick waves like surviving the indestructible worms in a tiny space, or maybe cover the floor and walls with spikes and make me do a lava-rising-escape platforming climb for 30 seconds to clear the waverinse and repeat forever. Silksong Cybergrind.. It's a great idea. Trial of the Fool was cool as fuck and I want more of that shit.
>>721989160This game being so good managed to completely mindbreak this board like never before, I haven't seen shitposters this desperate in a many, many years.
>>721989387>7 years building their personalities around it while never playing itAh that explains why people are getting filtered by platforming in Silksong they never played HK
>>721989187You will always be brown.
>>721989247Yeah but that's fucking retarded. Most players understand 100% completion to mean they have seen everything the game has to offer. It's fucking absurd that so much content doesn't count at all toward that completion percentage, leaving players feeling like they've exhausted all of the game's content when in fact there's still more to do and see. At that point don't even put a completion percentage, all you're doing is misleading players into thinking they're done before they're actually done, better to let them wonder forever than to confidently reassure them of a fucking falsehood.
>>721988642Kinda. There are some powerful qualities to scuttling as an actual move, but those are the parts that I'd say could be limited to the Scuttlebrace, similar to the Dashmaster charm from the first game. I mostly just want the physical act of Hornet scuttling to be a more interwoven part of the game. Everyone should experience it, rather than being something you only get like, 40% of the way through the game and requires spending valuable craftmetal + uses up a tool slot (even if Yellow slots are kinda whatever)
>>721988990You also can't get up there in act 3. You can't miss the journal entry because it gives it to you. But it does mean a person is less likely to find it themselves when it is inaccessible in the final game state.
>>721989472>rosary economy>shard system existing>runbacks>bossfights relying on adds and/or hitbox jank>act 3i can go on>>721989529>they never played HKtheyve never played fucking anything. these are zoomers whose involvement in video games as a hobby starts and ends with watching streamers
>>721989093Even with all the bullshit, I still like him. And I think he'd be too easy and nowhere near as memorable without the bullshit.
>>721989119stay
>>721982986Soulstrannies are retarded like that.
>>721989387/thread
>>721989645Your forgot >muh contact damage
>>721989645Go on mentioning things I love.
Are there any mods to disable/remove Hornets dialogue from the game yet?I prefer a silent protag and none of her yammering adds anything to the game.
>>721989093>Groal would be good if it wasn't for everything that makes him memorable
>>721989402>I want a rogueslop DLCI want you to step outside and get shot in the face.
>>721989886This is what I'm talking about.Shitskins don't even think, just dumb complaint after dumb complaint, need I even say anything?
>>721981172Her locks are silk
>>721989645>rosary economyit's brilliant in-world critique>shard system existingdon't overuse tools>runbacksdon't die>bossfights relying on adds and/or hitbox janknot real problems>act 3it's ok
>>721989886There's literally an option in the menu to turn off her voice you fucking zoomer idiot.
>>721989645>involvement in video games as a hobby starts and ends with watching streamersIt's palpable how desperate they are to "get it" or to be a part of something. No matter how absurd they have to endlessly defend every design decision. Sometimes even defending straight up downgrades from the first game.
>>721990018>it's brilliant in-world critiqueDidn't even bother reading past this "point".Kill yourself.
>>721990046Not what I'm talking about. That disables her sound effects. I want her dialogue removed when I talk to NPC's, so I only see the NPC dialogue (like in Hollow Knight).
Bilewater is the most complete and convincing area in the game. The only thing I feel it needed was a remote Stilkin village with a handful of NPCs. You slowly earn their trust before becoming initiated into their ways, develop an immunity to muckmaggots through sheer exposure (and smoothies), and ultimately gain the ability to be assisted by the vietcong in the final battle agaisn't GMS.
>still replying to himselfHumiliation ritual.
>>721990136Oh, you're just retarded.
>>721988553based and coralpilledAt first I was thinking nah man this is some bullshit but by the end I wanted more. If anything they didn't go far enough. I'd have enjoyed at least 2 more gauntlets in the tower. Give me 4 fat red Watcher Knight reskins simultaneously. Then give me 2 flying shrimp guys when one dies. With no floor, wall and pogo only.
>>721989906>groal doesn't have a very unique moveset and a cool design, all he is is the longest runback in the game followed by a gauntlet
>>721990182>Having preferences is retardedWhy? Be specific.If there's no mod, I'll just make it myself. Shouldn't take too long.
>>721990230Because that's a total non-issue and you're a retard.
>>721990108ok tool spammer
>>721990283>Having preferences is retarded>b-because I said so! OK????Ok retard.
>>721990195Frogs are cool. His moveset is unique, he even has soul attacks because he ate a shaman snail, and yes, the runback, the gauntlet, the traps, all of it makes his fight and bilewater in general memorable. All of it fits together perfectly.
>>721990338>Silkbot fucked up its script
>>721990230Because the NPC dialogue relies on Hornet speaking, it won't make sense when they respond to something she didn't say, might as well just remove all dialogue at that point
>>721989887wait... is the parasite coming out of her asshole and vagina?
>>721990087>No matter how absurd they have to endlessly defend every design decisionoh look theyre doing it now >>721990018
>>721990230I would prefer for you to be quiet.
>>721990339You lost and got raped, brownskin.
>by the end of SS Horney absorbed Eva, part of GMS and some ancient parasitewow
>>721990368>BRO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND IT'S SHIT ON PURPOSE
>>721989982Your opinion means little to me when you're the one sitting here bitching that the content already in the game, none of which is randomized or generated procedurally, is too hard to be fun. It sounds like you suffer from skill issue and are just upset at the idea that randomized enemy wave placements wouldn't be something you could look up on YouTube for a reliable cheese strat.Give me>Trial of the Fool>except it's as endless and semirandom as the Eternal Ordeal>and it has Godhome's optional bindingsJust let me see how long I can last. Anyone who doesn't want that doesn't really like the game.
>>721990392Well that dumb zoomer is obviously allergic to reading so that's probably what he wants.
>>721990392Hornet has never said anything that I couldn't infer from the NPC dialogue alone.She's literally just filler in a text box.
So how exactly did the Haunting affect all of Pharloom. The game establishes that GMS was able to take over so handily because bugs were actively injecting silk, but what does this mean for all the Pilgrims that come from lands beyond and have never touched silk in their lives. I'd assume it's GMS overpowering them anyways now that she's present in the kingdom, but we see what it looks like when she summons her threads to affect an area, and it's nothing like that. It's not like she's shown to be using a beacon like the Pale King either.Not to mention, what of Garmond and Zaza. Their village or any ruins thereof aren't shown in the game, and imply her reach has gone even further beyond Pharloom unless they're somehow from the Nameless Village on the surface
>>721990420>oh look theyre doing it nowThey're stuck in an endless cycle they're barely sentient
>>721990470>Redditspaced meltdown because he thinks everyone is the same person>s-s-skill issueI have 100% in the game and I beat the final boss twice more yesterday, once to try out a different Crest and once to get the Mister Mushroom ending, an NPC whose final location would probably filter the fuck out of you.Roguelite garbage is shit 100% of the time and has no place in an otherwise decent game. Now kill yourself.
>>721990387If you're running out of shards, you're likely to be overusing tools. Beep boop.
I'll be honest I have no love whatsoever for Groal. Maybe I'l enjoy him more on a new save but I never got that feeling of satisfaction when I beat him because I didn't feel like I had him down clean, I relied on tools.
>>721990617Where did I mention running out of shards you dumb brown?
Why did Karmelita get so big with age?
>>721976791This one's infertile. He needs a few tens of thousands of children to fill the abortion canyon.
>>721989552The game's way too big for it to be demanding that much for completionists. Though they should have had maps contribute to 100% given how exploration hevay the game is.
>>721990368I think your opinion of Bilewater is mainly going to depend on whether you're the type of player who dies within half a minute a couple of times before you're really able to engage with a boss.
The fuck is even the point of Sharpdart>here's a skill that lets you dash through enemies>it has startupWow! Already fucking useless!>btw it does less damage than SilkspearAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Is Trobbio optional if you get to the Cauldron through Whiteward? Trying to plan a minimum boss run.
>>721978250TROOOOOOOOOBIOOOOOOOO
>>721990687The ants in this setting are apparently like catfish. Don’t kill them, and they just get bigger.
>>721990603>Roguelite garbage is shit 100% of the timeYou do realized Silksong already has randomized enemy placements, right? Anyone who's done the Groal runback knows it. What a stupid fucking hill for you to die on, "endless tower of combat" is an obvious idea and randomization just stops it from looping back on itself after some arbitrary number of fixed waves. Jesus christ you people are all retarded.
>>721990793Pretty sure there's some random door blocking the way
>>721990406Isn't it something between a tapeworm and a baby? Where else would it go
>>721990559The silk infestation had become heritable and spread over generations. So the surrounding areas would have also been affected. She may be able to take control of bugs without that going on. But there are also bugs who never succumb despite hanging out in the citadel, so the extent to which she can do that is questionable.
>>721975781Probably just another infected like that one further down.
Boys, is Aeterna Noctis good? Been looking at playing that next
>>721990793AFAIK no, access via the Stage is required to get through the specific part of the Underworks that connects to the bottom of the Vault. I want to say there's one of those crisscross bridges there where the elevator from the Steam Organ goes, so that you can't move freely across the junction and have to come from the left if you want to proceed to the right.
Give GMS ALL of the vessels cast into the abyss.
>>721990849what the fuck is this gibberish? how does someone this retarded manage to convince himself that other people are retarded?
>>721990454It's not shit, it's very good.>>721990768I died a lot and still had a lot of fun in the area, it mostly depends on your mindset and attention span, I assume.
>>721988643Lace is literally just a small hatterene.
>>721990406Who cares. Tentacle powers are rad.
>>721980897It's gonna be Trobio or Sherma.
I don't know what the plot to Hollow Knight or Silksong is, and I've beaten both (HK multiple times).It doesn't seem important. Am I missing out?
>>721990603Also>an NPC whose final location would probably filter the fuck out of youIn what universe. Once you develop the muscle memory for>jump, then clawline, then double jumpyou just do that 20 times and you're up. The NT climb was fun, but it's not even the hardest platforming segment in the game. There are plenty that are way less forgiving, most of them in Sands of Karak.
>>721990784I'm surprised they managed to make a spell so conceptually similar to the first game's dive so trash.
>>721990936I doubt it. Hornet was just killing them as she found them because she knows what they're here for.
>>721990849>sometimes enemies are in a different place so Silksong is a rogueliteHoly fucking retard.What color is your skin?
>>721990962How about this: why are ALL the shades implied to share the same bond with Hornet as Little Ghost? Shit we’re not even sure how well the OG knight knew her.
>>721990793There is a skip, but it involves a glitch, the details of which I do not understand.
>>721991087Sands of Karak platforming is piss easy and anyone who struggled with it is a shitter.Anyone who struggled with ANY of the platforming in the game is a shitter, really, but you didn't even know what I was talking about before you looked up a YouTube video of some tranny streamer doing it.
>>721983028>Lace betrays Hornet>Hornet kills her. Yeah, I'm thinking kino.
>>721990784The point is to make the player think as with most things in the game, the startup is very small, you can just jump/move away from the enemy a little, or just time the skill better. It opens up a lot of openings, which is the best part about it.
>>721991159Because the ghost is the king of the void and they follow him.
>>721990603I have never seen a game with this many shitposters lying about having played it. Every single person who hates this game claims to have 100%d it. Every one of them.
>>721991339Where did I say I hated the game, illiterate monkey?
>>721991257>The point is to make the player think as with most things in the gameA lot of Indian energy coming off of this sentence. I shan't be reading further.
>>721991006>what the fuck is this gibberish?A statement of fact? Enemy placements are sometimes randomized in Silksong. If you've done the Groal runback you know it because the room right before Groal has very irritating randomized Stiltkin spawns. The way enemies appear when you enter a room is not guaranteed. Some enemies have fixed locations, some enemies appear at random. RNG also dictates the appearance of the silk stealing spiders in High Halls and Choral Chambers. It also dictates which adds are choses by bosses that can pull multiple ones; it determines the spine patterns on Hokers. There are quite a few things that are randomized in the game when it comes to how enemies appear, and it prevents you from doing runbacks by rote.Also, the closest analogue to the "endless tower of combat" concept would be the Flea Carnival minigames, as those are all endless. And of course, in all 3 of them, the fleas that appear do so randomly, there is no predictable pattern. It's also the same concept as HK's hidden Eternal Ordeal challenge, which spawns an endless randomized wave of Zotelings as a survival gauntlet.Literally all I'm asking for is for a set of arena patterns to be matched to this. Just like how Trial of the Fool would sometimes make the floor spikes and add 4 platforms in the middle, or narrow the walls and drop the ceiling, or anything else. Make up a set of those and pair it off with the randomized enemy placements. Again, this is nothing new; Flea Dodge uses procedural randomization to set platforms. The logic is all already there in the game, and you don't bitch about it. But as soon as the word "roguelike" gets mentioned in conjunction with the notion of "wave randomization in an endless challenge" you go into spergout mode.
>>721991057HK: A wyrm takes the form of a bug so he can be worshipped as god-king, this pisses off a moth god who can brainjack people in their dreams. Wyrm god's solution is to fuck a tree hard enough she has literally thousands of babies, then toss all those babies into an abyssal area of eldritch void until one of them is able to escape so he can raise it as a son, all the while surrounding himself with $3600 worth of sawblades. Turns out is was the "raising it as a son" part that was the bad part of that plan. Moth is sealed away but still brainjacking people, so another baby rises from the abyss, finds the power to enter dreams, and kills the moth god for good. Also while the wyrm god was fucking the tree he also fucked a spider on the side to make the hot rival girl, but this won't be important later one.SS: So the hot rival girl from HK who's part god is now the player character.
>>721991164When I heard about the private spa I thought there was gonna be a door on the other side of the house. The reality is a little disappointing and makes the home a little claustrophobic.
>>721991464Whatever you say, brown schizo.
>>721991480"Random" enemy placements =/= Rougelike.
>>7219913398% out of the millions who bought the game spent the 50 to 60 hours of effort it takes to 100% it, that's a fucking lot of people.I did too and it's far from a perfect game
>>721981757no one cares, tendienigger cattle
>>721991512All caught up now.
>>721989352The strength and hollowness of a vessel are mutually independent, with HK being obvious proof which Hornet is aware of.
>>721991512I don't think any of this is even remotely hinted at in the game.
>>721991430It is extremely obvious who you are.
>>721991480you're the one sperging out retardo. you can't even decide if the genre you know nothing about is called roguelike or roguelite.
Finished all quests and beat all bosses except lost lace(I think she's the last boss). Still missing 1 mask shard and two spool shards.
>>721991152No? Nobody said that. But if you're going to say that an endless battle with randomized enemy placements is "roguelike garbage that has no place in the game" you have to reckon with the fact that the game already has endless modes and randomized enemy placements, it just doesn't quite put them together in the way that's being described. The things you're bitching about are already present and you haven't even noticed, but you're in a fucking froth over the notion that they might be added.
>>721991512If I understand this right: all bugs, and even pale beings, have this misconception that void has this emotion-removing property?
>>721991731Christ this is embarrassing to watch.
>>721990784shade cloak.
>>721991665it's all in the game but mostly in HK which has a lot more lore. NPCs in silksong don't have much to say and the needolin isn't as satisfying as the dreamnail to extract for dialogues.
>>721991686You are a brown schizo.
>>721991871>it's all in the gameWhere is the part about being a Wyrm in the game? I'd like to see that.
Just beat the game loved hornet and her fat ass
>>721970658Impressive how 100 years of dev time and still such a visually uninteresting game
>>721991731I think you might be the stupidest person on /v/.
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>>721990687That's how and queens work. Their body undergoes many changes after they mate and establish a colony, starting by getting rid of the wings and flight muscles.
>>721991605Then pick a word, retard, I don't care. Whatever word you want to use to describe>game uses RNG and procedural logic to assemble an arena layout and waves of enemies to fill it>after the enemies are gone, game does it again with a new arena layout and new wave of enemies to fill it>this goes on for as long as you can survive, with the objective being to last as long as possible>rewards are based on how long you last>there are optional difficulty settings you can bind before the trial that increase the reward payout, such as disabling tools, disabling spells, capping your max health, etcGenre autism doesn't interest me. Whatever you want to call that, that's what I want. Endless Trial of the Fool mixed with Godhome Pantheon rules. It's just a piecing together of stuff that already existed in HK and Silksong, but in a way neither game has actually done yet.
>>721991952is is an extremely unpopular opinion.
>>721991986>Genre autism doesn't interest meThen stop using the word "Roguelike" if you don't know what it means.
>>721991615And not a single one of them are the people here who have been seething about the game since before it released who all claim to not only have 100%d the game but were in fact some of the first to do so, if they are to be believed.
>>721991952Raped brown bitch.
>>721991665>I don't think any of this is even remotely hinted at in the game.do you really think people have made several lore videos based on shit they pulled out of their ass? in fact one of the reasons i prefer mossbag's first "full HK lore video" to the modern "mostly complete lore of HK" is because he actually showed where he was getting his info from on-screen, proving it was all there in-game and had to be pieced together.
>>721991926I don't remember the specifics because it's been years but you find the key to the king's gate at the very end of the cast off wyrm shell that is guarded by hornet
>>721992059Despite sharing the same username Anonymous is not the same user. I hope you enjoy your stay on 4chan you retarded shitskin.
>>721991926Bardoon describes it the most. The cast-off shell you find in Kingdom's Edge is his former body: the old body died so he could take on the new one. Other characters in the game still refer to the Pale King as a Wyrm, such as Grimm, the Godseeker, and HK's Mask Maker.
>>721992126>do you really think people have made several lore videos based on shit they pulled out of their ass?Yeah, that's usually what happens.Just look at Game Theory.>>721992135>No exampleOk. Then I don't really believe you sorry.
What if you killed/bound lace in front of GMS
>>721991926bardoon (in kingdom's edge) explains that.
>>721992248Which part of that means "the knight is a wyrm"?
>>721991926There's a big fellow in kingdom's edge that gives the most direct information. But you also get the king's brand from within the cast off shell of the pale king's worm body.
>>721992213You're wasting my timehttps://hollowknight.fandom.com/wiki/Bardoon
>>721992305i didn't know you were talking about the knight instead of the king. but also he says this.
>>721992404And which part of that implies that the Knight is a Wyrm?
>>721992213>yes, this lore channel that shows the information in-game and pieces the story together is the same as this channel that explicitly has "theory" in its name
>>721992041You do realized that this is the exact description I provided in the original post that started this entire chain of assmad? And that you have been having a spergout for like 15 posts because of one word in the sentence>I actually and legitimately wish that we got a Silksong DLC that was just an endless roguelike Trial of the Fool that shat out rosary + shard rewards based on how many waves you survived.What is the hang up with that word choice? If the game made you walk from the wave 1 room to the wave 2 room instead of changing the layout of the room around you, would that suddenly fundamentally change what we were discussing? It's still the same thing, breaking a combat arena into sub-components and using an algorithm to randomly combine them to make the arena the player fights in. The average person understands the word roguelike to mean "the map generates randomly on each run through, and when you die you have to start from the beginning", which is exactly what we're describing here. If you're one of those people who thinks that it only counts if it's an ASCII art RPG, sorry for not sating your hyperspecific genre autism, I'm sure you also have a 2000 character post to explain why Silksong is not in fact a "metroidvania".
>>721992473?i don't know why you're hyperfocused on the knight being a wyrm, something nobody said. but then again, someone saying "you evolved past wyrm" implies you're at least part wyrm.
>>721992473Not him, but technically the Knight is a void being born from the shell of the original child of the King (Wyrm) and the Lady (Root)
>>721992502It's the same deranged nigger that has been spamming cp, furry porn, and botshit. It looks for any reason to shit up these threads.
>>721992305>>721992473All of the Vessels, including the Knight, are the spawn of the Pale King and White Lady. The White Lady describes this, when you get the White Fragment in the palace then the description says "Soul of Wyrm, Soul of root, Heart of Void." Hornet mentions the Abyss as the place of the Knight's birth, along with the rest of the vessels.
Why didn't she just go to the hollow nest and get her womb hollowed out by the pale king?
>>721980897This guy looks like a protagonist to me. He also has nothing better to do than wander about and accidentally stumble into another massive kingdom in the latter stages of a Pale-Being-induced apocalyptic event. He is now where near as relevant as Hornet was in HK, but I'd rather have this dude than Lace.
>>721992502damn you're really trying hard to project your spergout
>>721991651Clearly the HK wasn't strong enough since we beat him AND take his job/end it all depending on the ending. But anyway this headcanon you've got about Hornet is dispelled with what she tells you in the City of Tears by the fountain. She's calmed down until she tests you for the Kings brand.
>>721992691>now where*nowhere
>>721992502>ESL>completely retarded and lacking in self-awarenessClassic neo-/v/ lmao.
>>721992691They are not making a make a wish character a protagonist. And a lot of people hate him, both because his boss fight is kind of annoying and because of the flea games.
>>721980897It'll be the former Pale King in a new body. Bardoom straight up says that casting off one body is just the creation of another for his species. He never stopped being a Wyrm, he just got smaller. So after seeing his plan fail (seemingly) and his kingdom fall he cast off his kingly body and fucked off in a new one.
>>721985436No, tools are always up+silk skill
>>721992885I liked the Seth fight and I liked the Flea games, and you know what, I like his design, so props to that kid. Has he died since or is he still alive?
>>721979340>how will Lace wrestle with the guilt that she indirectly killed her own Mother (or trapped in the void, like that's much better)That's part of why I question whether or not Lace is truly "redeemed"/a nonthreat now. The guilt may make her spiral into something even worse and more destructive. A tragic villain can still be a threat.
>>721993034He died a while back unfortunately.
>>721980897A prequel starring Garmond and Zaza's early adventures.
>>721991057>>721991665>>721991926People who play the entire game and don't understand the plot are flat out retarded.
>>721993352>>721993352>>721993352
>>721987289bump
>>721993225Oh. RIP lil buddy.
>>721993034>I like his design, so props to that kidYeah, it's a cute design. I don't blame him for flea dodge being abominable.
>>721992683Where does the game tell you this?
