> Support your local spa.
>>722002256
>>722002256I think the game was good.Yep.
>>722002256>bind Lace instead if saving her at the end of act3How would she react?
>>722002375>kyaaaa flea-san no bakaa!
>>722002421She would intentionally rupture the cocoon
>>722002375>>722002513He was just doing maintenance, you feminist.
Why do developers have this weird illness of NEEDING their sequel to be significantly harder than the first game, to the point of filling said sequel with annoying "gotcha" moments that quickly overstay their welcome?I've beaten Silksong and mostly enjoyed it, but there were so many moments like that and it always felt like the devs were sitting behind the screen giggling like little faggots. It also felt like it was done intentionally to pad playtime which is equally annoying.What is this and why is it so prevalent? Are Soulstrannies yet again to blame?
>>722002874Why the fuck would I play a sequel that's easier than the original? I liked the gotcha moments.
Hunter crest is Hornet's true nature. Wanderer / Architect users didn't beat the game.
>>722002874they're australians.
>>722003025A game doesn't need to constantly fuck with you to be fun. Difficulty isn't everything. Fucking Soulstranny.
>>722003094I've literally never played a Souls game in my entire life.
>there's at least 3 scenes where someone tries to touch her and she punches themWhy is everyone so handsy with her?
>>722003203gotta get full value out of that animation they worked so hard on.
>SNAP
>>722003203she's pretty and royalty
>>722003203Strong and competent warrior h-game feMCs exist for being defeated and having their boundaries violated
>>722003353How long until there's an animation of her diving onto his dick
>>722003487Silksong would instantly jump from the disappointing 7/10 it is to a perfect 10 if they'd spent all those years making H-Scenes with Hornet.
>>722002874Go back to whining in elden ring threads you faggot
>>722002874Generally that's not even the case.Only one that comes to mind is zelda 2, which the developers said it was a big inspiration.
What bosses gave you the hardest time?
DLC map
>>722003651I love nude hornet. she's so doofy looking with her dale gribble body.
Why did shoelace do that
>>722002421It would make no sense. If Hornet wanted to bind Lace she would have done it at the end of Act 2. Still, I entertained this idea too. Lace is just such a nothing character that you almost want to think that it would not matter.
>>722004197>trobbio's troupekino
>>722004213She's a little brat that needs correction
Why didn't I get any help in this fight? Apparently you can get two characters (I'm assuming they are Shakra and the avenger knight guy whose name I forgot). I met the night guy 3 times in the citadel, I only met Shakra in the Blasted Steps but I couldn't find her anywhere in the Citadel and I combed through the entire fucking game.
>>722004042Found one of the Soulstrannies.
>>722004148>First Sinner>Lost Lace>Karmelita>NylethI think those are the only ones I died to more than 3 or 4 times. Nyleth was a special case because I just couldn't get into the "It's a gimmick boss" mindset so I kept fucking up really basic shit, either by playing too aggressively or too passively.
What's City of Steel's deal, that they have learned to subjugate higher beings?
>>722002256I wonder how far you can get through the game using only naked hornet
>>722004148how is it even possible to die to this boss more than once or twice
>>722004197I forget, is it ever established HK takes place entirely underground? I assumed Dirtmouth was on the surface and it's just perpetual night ingame.
>>722004148It's not a boss but High Halls arena was by far the worst for me.
>>722004915Why did they give her a dress that couldn't fit her anyways, actually I can't remember the cutscene beyond this dialogue so I assume Hornet is the one making the dress so they let her go around nude beforehand I suppose
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhHCMSQRsGIObviously don't watch the whole thing (I didn't, just skipped through a bit when it showed up on my feed), but this just brings me back to something I've been asking myself basically since the game dropped: How are so many people such shitters? These retards apparently got filtered by fucking Sister Splinter and the way they describe it, there's "too much" happening on the screen at once so the fight is "too hard".Too much? What the fuck are these people on about? Do they have cataracts? Why do shitters try games that are obviously going to filter them and then get mad about it?
>>722004891By being DSP
>>722005208well, it is by far the hardest arena by design.
Revisiting Hollow Knight after finishing Silksong- The Knight instantly felt clunkier to control, not having Hornet's ledge grab makes me very sad. Also miss being able to heal in the air- the Dash is weirder than I remembered it being. I miss the speed of Hornet's sprint- The areas are much less interesting and fleshed out than silksong in terms of layout and mechanics. Hollow Knight has superior atmosphere though-You can really feel the difference in enemy design, Hollow Knights basic enemies are stupidly simple compared to even a Skarr scout- Vengeful Soul > Silk SpearOverall I still enjoy the game but it's kind of just making me want to play Silksong again
>>722005034there's wind off to the side by the howling cliffs so if it isn't above ground it's near an opening. same with pharloom.
>>722004726They understood the frailties of the flesh
>>722004515I don't know what the trigger is for Garmond. But for Shakra you have to complete her quest, which first requires buying all her maps.
Was it though?
I got 4 heartsare there any more?
>>722005461silksong is so much better, it's kind of amazing. I couldn't even get remotely close to finishing hollow knight, meanwhile silksong is likely my GOTY
Wait, the Green Prince is a literal faggot?
>>722005693NoGame is poopy bantha fodder.
>>722004148Savage beastfly. I don't keep count of attempts, but I beat Karmelita in probably a fifth as many attempts.
>>722003203She's a canon whore but pretends not to be in her current stage of life
>>722004148Probably the final, if not her Karmelita>>722002421She would seethe and mald and try to drag you with her in the void again, rather than let you bind her to escape.
>>722005736Uh yeah? Why do you think his head was still attached?
https://x.com/T_ChamDers/status/1972667696165638623?t=t8B62hL3oiKTTMvbn7q4aQ&s=19 Is this cubism
>>722004213Not enough Lace is hallownest art
>>722004891Anon, I think that every single boss in both games killed me at least once, yes even that one.It's possible to die twice to father of flame, especially depending on the crest you use.
>>722005249I didn't have that issue with sister splinter, but I did have to turn down the screen shake on widow because I couldn't tell what the fuck was going on.
>>722002421I mean she'd just stop trying to hold the cocoon and then void consumes everything.
>>722005983
>>722004148How is it that every time I see a picture of this guy he always has this exact same sour look on his face?
>>722006086>>722005983What do these ancient glyphs mean?
>>722005297Trannies can't meme.
>>722006170I don't know google translate goes full retarded with moon runes
>>722005461>Hollow Knight has superior atmosphere thoughI kinda feel this, but at the same time HK has way less varietyYou've got blue-tinted cave with fog, blue-tinted cave with fog but also there's moss, blue-tinted cave with fog but city architecture, blue-tinted cave with fog but the blue is more purple-blue
>>722005683>buying all her mapsYou mean all the maps in the game? So, I'm supposed to go explore outside of the Citadel before fighting Lace at the top (just started the fight).I've done a lot of Bilewater but I can't get the map for it cause you seem to need the double jump.I tried going left of the Citadel but I turned around cause there's some freeze effect there that damages you and I figured you needed some powerup.
>>722006292>I tried going left of the Citadel but I turned around cause there's some freeze effect there that damages you and I figured you needed some powerup.no, there are places that warm you up like at the top of the Slab
>>722006292You can fight Lace, that's not a point of no return
>>722006292>I tried going left of the Citadel but I turned around cause there's some freeze effect there that damages you and I figured you needed some powerup.Go back. You get immunity to the cold after you reach the top of Mt. Fay (also double jump), you just need to rush between spots of warmth
>>722006292>You mean all the maps in the game?No, there's several that aren't from her. But you do need the double jump to get all her maps and complete her quest.>there's some freeze effect there that damages you and I figured you needed some powerupKeep going. You'll be fine.
>>722006394He's talking about getting help for the high halls gauntlet. You'd have to do all of the things for that before Lace 2.
Steel bugs dlc whenNew crests dlc when
>>722006381>>722006404>>722006498Fair enough. I like the game but it does a terrible job at communicating what it wants from you. HK was much better designed in that regard. I always felt like I knew where to go while playing HK but here I constantly second-guess myself.
>>722005683I think for Garmond you have to speak to him in greymoor and the citadel when he shows up there to help you clear a room and then fight him in the big open room directly right of songclave.
>>722006292>I've done a lot of Bilewater but I can't get the map for it cause you seem to need the double jump.
>>722006586i think that entirely depends on the person. i constantly see the opposite opinion, where people got too lost in hollow knight but felt like it was easier to find the path forward in silksong.
>>722002256I'd rather support local repair shops
>>722006586>I like the game but it does a terrible job at communicating what it wants from you.Like >>722006381said, you already encountered the cold and warm spots in the Slab, so you'd know that they exist.
>>722006067It's just weird to me that people who clearly suck dick at games like this are playing them and then reviewing their "problems" as if their opinion actually means anything to anyone except other shitters.
>>722006586I mean, you remember going through the Slab right? There are areas that cause the frost bite effect but when you get to a warm spot it goes away. That's the clue.
>>722002256What kinds of things does Hornet do with other bugs in there?
>>722006586They should definitely add a torch near the entrance to mt fay so you know what they're expecting you to do.
>>722006843Sucktendo lost.
>>722004148High Halls gauntlet while cursed.
which one?
>friend laughs at all the people complaining about difficulty>he buys it>last judge filtered himYou love to see it. I hope they don't change any other balance changes. Those two they changed were noticeably easy now.
>>722006843Bondage & tickling
>>722006797Some people never got captured and never had to go through that part of the slab.
>>722006714I need her to blow her exhaust straight into Hornet's maskholes.
>>722004741Reminds me of stick-chan
>>722006843Stop posting this. I dont like to be reminded that my bugfu's purity has been violated
>>722005249Don't care to watch the video but everyone got hit by Sister Splinter falling right, like it's not like you can see that's she physically holding on to the roof, I thought her stagger animation would just have her hanging on tired or something
>>722006772>>722006797No, I haven't gone through the Slab, as soon as I encountered the freeze effect I turned around. Shit like that usually means you're not supposed to be there in metroidvanias.
Game not releasing with a god master equivalent fucking sucks.I don't want to have to replay this game just to fight the bosses again
>>722005249Some people get really really really overwhelmed when there are more than one enemies on screenComplaining about Sister Splinter is a bit inexcusable though because she legitimately has one attack and her adds have no health
>>722004148CarmelitaNylethPunished TROBBIOSister Splinter
>>722006915What does "filtered" mean in this context? Did he drop the game or just need multiple hours worth of attempts? Is he one of those people complaining about the Judge's runback?
>>722006843most obsessed incel
>>722002874Most of Silksong is easier than HK, the difference is the early part of the game beats you upside the head instead of handholding you like HK.
>>722006714What kind of bug is she supposed to be anyway?
>>722007012>I haven't gone through the SlabBut you can't get to Mt. Fay any other way?
>>722006979>feeling cucked by a bugyou remind me of that tranny on twitter who said he felt gender envy from hornet
>>722007010I think most people probably did yeah, I know I did. Once. Those retards are acting like it makes the entire boss fight some horrible crime against humanity.>>722007026I get not really being able to follow what's happening at first for some bosses, like Trobbio or Lost Lace, but if you can't follow what's happening in Sister Splinter you probably just need to stop playing.
>>722007109The sexy kind
>>722004148Groal, just Groal, everyone else was fine but that motherfucker pissed me off.
Did hornet's language change in-between games? I never heard her say any of her lines she said in the first game
>>722007141I didn't say anything about Mt. Fay, you guys are the ones who brought it up. I didn't even know that was a thing.
>>722004148Savage Beastfly legit took me like 9 hours.No other boss in the game took me that long. Not even savage beastfly 2, which is a noticably harder fight. In comparison, Widow was dead on like my 6th attempt
>>722007242Her voice sounds different too. She sounded much cuter in HK.
There was a room in he whispering vaults I think, that's completely dark, and after you move a few things the lights turn on and a few enemies are seeing flying away on the background.What does that do? Disabling something like the high halls silk drainers?
>>722007242She went from Buganese to straight up Japanese. Lace is even worse.
>>722007282you're talking about the place with the freeze effect. the only place that has that is mt fay.
>>722007141You only see the cold parts if you get imprisoned. If you get there from the citadel then mt fay is the first cold place you encounter.
Anyone got that gif of the butt-naked dude floating away with Hornet's cloak?
>>722007282Most people end up in the Slab naked and afraid and have no choice but to keep progressing through it, cold or not
>>722007282Wait you didn't even complete the Slablmao what
>>722007360>Savage Beastfly legit took me like 9 hours.Am I actually just really good at this game or something?Only a couple things took me over an hour, and even then just barely. I would be surprised if a single part of the game took me over 2 hours. One boss taking 9 hours is genuinely hard for me to fathom. Could you just not figure out his movement or were you getting bad RNG or what?
How hard would it be to complete a sub 30-hour 100% Steel Soul run?I want to get my final 3 achievements all in one go.
>>722007434Slab has it at the top but that's probably not what he was talking about
>>722006843>Hornet is a canon lesbian so those partners are all of them women>Lesbian sex isn't real sex>Hornet is therefore perfectly puréWorks for me
>>722007401No, it's the opposite, these enemies just start spawning everywhere, and there is a new gauntlet with them at the entrance to the vaults and that's it.
>>722007242She says garama quite frequently.
>>722007360Bro howI get it can be a pain at first, but like, it only moves in straight lines, and half the time it's completely locked in to doing only one type of straight line
>>722007513Piss easy, most of the Act 3 bosses won't even kill you as if you weren't already quitting to menu already
>>722007174Why do trannies love this?
>>722005246All weavers wear that it seems.
>>722007434No, the Slab has it too.>>722007474>>722007480What? What did I miss?
>>722007513Steel soul is mainly about alt-F4ing when the emergency mask breaks, so the run is really just down to figuring out the fastest path to the end
>>722007520Kys tranny.
>>722007015
>>722007520She's bisexual. probably omnisexual since plants fucked her too
the flea games are SHIT and it should be shut down
>>722007572Kek, seriously? That's hilarious.
>>722002421>>722007520>instead of binding her, Hornet straight up fucks her daughter in front of her.How does she react?
I’m not even going to bother with Steel Soul until I get the boss gauntlet to practice the bosses on
>>722004148Savage Beastfly 2 and Karmelita.
>>722007664>No, the Slab has it too.but you said "I haven't gone through the Slab"
>>722007474more like "the PLAP"because they are taking turns plapping that naked bug's pussy
>>722007816Yeah, Hornet even says in the journal entry that she brought it on herself.
>>722004148So far>Broodmother>Forgebrother Duo>Savage Beastfly Part 2>Phantom>MoorwingMost engaging and fun bosses so far>Last Judge>First Sinner>Widow>Sister Splinter>Raging Conchfly>Fourth Chorus>Groal>Cogwork Dancers
>>722007520>>Hornet is a canon lesbian so those partners are all of them women>>Lesbian sex isn't real sex>>Hornet is therefore perfectly puré>Works for me
>>722007863Just try it once to see how far you get, don't even worry about it
>>722007582The problem was never the beastfly, that's the easy part.And again, I don't know what to say, I beat the shit out of Moorwing in like 30 minutes after doing that. I just kept running it down in to savage beastfly with silk spear, base needle, hunters crest, and the dagger tool until 3 in the morning
>>722007923Oh my FUCKIGN GOD you nigger, can you PLEASE fucking read?? I went to the Slab and as soon as I encountered the freeze effect I turned around.
>>722007664You missed getting captured, stripped of clothes and weapons and being forced to do a jailbreak, one of the most memorable sequences in the game
>>722007520Mutant tranny Frankencock freak ghoul hands typed this post.
>>722007863Widow, Last Judge and Silk were the only ones I had to pussy out on, you're so limited in Act 1, I wanted to do it legit but all bravado disappears when you're one hit away from death
>>722008023And where do I go to get captured?
>>722008017if you went through the slab and encountered a freeze mechanic you reached mt fay you fucking sperg, keep your autistic screeching to yourself.
>>722008098For me it happened in Greymoor
>>722007904Thinking about it, Bilewater must've been an awesome area to live in before the citadel started blowing farts in it
>>722008123The freeze mechanic is present on the outside areas of the slab, which is encountered very early onYou have to go past the bellway at the end to actually get to mt. fay
>>722008098>>722008023what the fuck how did I miss that
>>722008123I DIDN'T "GO THROUGH" THE SLAB YOU GET THE FREEZE EFFECT ALMOST IMMEDIATELY IF YOU ENTER THE SLAB FROM THE CITADEL YOU FUCKING NIGGER
>>722008182Okay but how does it happen? What do you have to encounter?
Is lave wearing a Japanese bride outfit?
What is the requirement to get to act 3? I did all the wishes I know of. There's a soul rock-thing from groal, the cogheart, and something called memorium in my inventory. The fleas at the grand gate say they're ready to move but Hornet doesn't know of a big space for them. I assume I can't explore the area above bilewater because it's not act 3 yet.
>>722007904Wait a minute. Were the pinstresses stilkin?
>>722008349A guy with a cage. He will put you in the cage.
>>722004148Beastfly.I'm still angry and whenever I remember it I change my score from 9/10 to 8/10Fuck that shit.
>>722004891hunter crest on controller + being DSP
>>722008361Who's lave?
Fuck this gay, arrogant, pretentious, homosexual, irritating, histrionic insect. I hate him. >Trobb-ACK
>>722008413I cleared out pretty much all the areas and I wasn't put in a cage. Can you be a little more specific?
>>722008402You need to do as many wishes as possible and eventually the priest in the first shrine will give you a quest
>>722007938>Forgebrother DuoReally? This is one of the few bosses I beat in one trySavage Beastfly 2: Electric Boogaloo was the hardest thing I've encountered so far
>>722008438
>>722008474Just because he's a little campy doesn't mean he's automatically gay, tranny.
>>722008123>>722008237You only get to the cold parts of the slab if you get captured. You do not reach them if you come in from the citadel and don't have the key.
>>722004148Trobbio, it took me seven tries to beat him. It took me a max of 3 tries for every other boss but my brain fucking melted with him for some reason.
>>722008506I don't control where or how he spawns. First one I saw was in Far Fields or Hunter's March (I forget which) really early on and I killed him then
Now that we have Silksong,which video game will be the new "clown" to take its place?
>>722008474Heh… JOBbio…
>>722008673Deltarune Chapter 5 if it gets delayed
>>722008402explore the putrified ducts, once your map is complete then talk to the fleas. im not sure how many you have to find to get them to move but i got them all. also you don't need to beat the boss once, you can just die and you'll still get to act 3
>>722008660So it's a random encounter? What? What's the name of the npc? Can you give me a link or something?
>>722008237>>722008271Where? I don't recall any part of the Slab having freezing mechanics if you come from the outside and don't reach the top
>>722008673Lacesong
>>722008865Not happening.
>>722008474Trobbio if he Trannio
For the record, the capture sequence doesn't happen anymore if you reach the slab from the outside. You must have never seen the slab before to get it.
Can anyone explain the Night of Revenge posts? And the "secret" twitter art?
>somehow beat the first sinner first tryI'm all tingly
>>722008826It's a Wardenfly
>>722008981Not true. The slab was the first bellway I found in act 2 and I'd even made a couple of attempts at mt fay before I got captured in greymoor.
>>722009093Another boss with fantastic music
>>722008789What if Deltarune Chapter 5 isn't delayed after all?Come on guys, we need a new video game developer who makes their fans wait like fools!
>silksong thread>look inside>not a single shaw
>>722009157A friend who had gotten that sequence spoiled tried finding the kidnapper but even with a guide we couldn't get it to spawn anywhere and we tried for an hour. A wiki entry read that it would not spawn any longer if you had already been to the slab.
>>722008848Here you go, faggot. I went there. The red line is the path basically.
would be cool if Lace 2 fight gave me any sort of hint as to whether she's about to jump or dash
>>722009289That's Mount Fay you're looking at my man, those rings are part of your platforming up the mountain
>>722009132THAT?? But how? You just kill it in like 3 hits.
>>722009281Maybe it wasn't that it stops spawning when you have visited the slab but rather when you get the apostate key.>>722009289Didn't know you could reach that high without getting 'napped.
>>722009281Had he opened the slab? It's locked up if you get there from the outside. I hadn't unlocked it when I got captured.
>>722009392Well try not killing it next time
>>722009338She has different animations but I think probably has the same sound cues which might mess it up
>>722009363Well, it doesn't fucking say "Mt. Fay" it says "The Slab" when you enter from the Citadel and nothing else comes up.
>>722008402>I assume I can't explore the area above bilewater because it's not act 3 yet.You get there via the top right of choral chambers, you need double jump to reach the area that eventually takes you there
>Hornet has to jump through multiple hoops and run all over the place just to get a life-threatening parasite removed from her bodyWe must be better bugs.
>>722009491Well it won't say The Slab when you're on the other side of that wall... so there!
Silksong has some great voices, yes, but nothing as inspired as Mask Maker or the Seer.
>>722009392It has one specific attack that captures you. It doesn't need to kill you.
>>722009471So what? You're supposed to get killed by it? That's fucking retarded.
I did a speedrun, 4h14. Rough estimates for my biggest time kills:>High Halls gauntlet 45min>Sinners/Wisps 40min>GMS 14minImpatience kills in this game, I beat GMS first try my first playthrough then died to her about 5 times. Sinners/Wisps was just bad platforming and impatience, trying to dodge banshees didn't work. High Halls was actually quite fun to learn, having to do it with limited health/tools/no ally was very satisfying.
>>722009392>But how?You don't need to get killed by it, just captured
>>722006915If anything Last Judge should be buffed. It's silly that direct hits from her weapon only do 1 mask of damage in the second stage because she's lit it on fire.
>>722009275just like the game itself
>>722009535Allegory for how hard it is for women to get abortions, which is probably what you were already implying
>>722009594No, it just needs to slam the cage on you
>>722009580Oh wait, you mean when he slams the cage down? How the fuck do the devs expect anyone to get hit by that???? You'd actually have to be borderline braindead.
>>722007240I nuked the fatass with boomerangs and cogflies in single digits attempts. Use your tools niggas, they're great crutches if you suck like I doThe only real annoying part is the runback
does getting captured change the endings
>>722007360>Not even savage beastfly 2, which is a noticably harder fight.It's the easiest boss in the game.When adds spawn, you can just leave the arena like this and wait a few seconds, and they will despawn.
>>722009535Maybe if Hornet was more careful with what she was sticking inside of herself, she wouldn't be in this situation!
>>722009363Cool, now explain how to get from the position pictured to those rings, you autistic fucking retard
>>722009780do you know how metroidvanias work
>>722009657She keeps it, wiki-kun.
>>722004148lava beastfly and karmelita
>>722009748No, it's just a kino detour in your journey.
>>722009720Well sometimes you just mess up and get hit man I dunno what to tell you
>>722009780Maybe use your fucking eyes and whatever serves as a brain and fucking explore, you retarded brown broccolihead TikTok zoomer shitcunt.
>>722009780Go through the Slab instead of turning back
>>722009780You seem to have anger management issues over very trivial shit
>>722009853>>722009920>>722009937Proving my point
>>722009995The point that you're a dumb fuck zoomer who starts screeching when you can't figure out where to go after 10 seconds of looking around? Yeah, kill yourself.
>>722009995>as soon as I saw the cold I turned back>don't turn back, keep going>YOU'RE AUTISTIC REEEEEJust... just keep going through the Slab.
>>722002874Difficulty is content. Cope.
>>722009749Huh, I thought TC would've patched in barriers to keep the arena closed. I vaguely remember seeing launch day screenshots of anons just getting the boss out of the arena and getting it stuck on geometry for an easy kill.
>>722009275
Oh btw you get the freeze effect left of the Slab fast travel point too.
>>722010084WHERE THE FUCK DO I GO THROUGH THE SLAB YOU DUMB SHITHEAD I MISSED THIS PART OF ILYK3COX'S STREAM
>>722010170Fine, I laughed
>>722010170You know when you're standing here>>722009289GO DOWN
>>722010130>Difficulty is contentBraindead Soulstranny hands typed this post.
>>722008410>long noses>black bodies>pinstress forma azul jumps around and throws shit at you like one
>>722002256Speaking of spasI recently got this conditioner and I can't stop autistically doing a hornet impression going "AVEEENO" every time I see it in my bathroom
>>722010071>>722010084>If you've seen the cold, you've been to mt fay>No you haven't, that's in the slab and nowhere close to the end of the area which you can't necessarily reach>[autistic screeching]proving my point
>>722008568>Really? This is one of the few bosses I beat in one tryThe second move the first bro does where he swipes forward then swings up kept getting me until my friend who was watching me play told me to go in only when he's using the destructo disc. That plus weaving dashes in was what helped until the second wave of adds kept killing me. Then I kept getting fucked by the second bro's spear throw. Then I realized the problem was Architect's pogo and lack of silk skill, plus I had hit zero shell from like 600, so I switched to Reaper and Threadstorm and won in a few tries after. Groal and the gauntlet was about the same where I won very quickly after switching from Architect to Reaper.
everyone i see on twitch uses that 1hp skull thing and i never even found it (i am in act 3)
>>722010247You can't do that if you come from the citadel and don't have the keys
>>722002256FUCK YOU PIECE OF SHIT GOD DAMN I HATE AUSTRALIAN FAGGOTS SO MUCH IS UNREALWHY CAN'T YOU SUBHUMANS BE NORMALKYS YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHITI HATE YOU FUCKERS WITH EVERY FIBER OF MY BEING
Anyways, I remember killing two of those fat flies. Can I still get captured? I remember them not respawning.
>>722009535Hot
>>722010289You are an actual fucking idiot and this is why it should be legal to kill zoomers with impunity.
>>722010384How do people who don't get captured reach Mt. Fay then?
>>722009854she keeps the material in her that makes her stronger. she basically ACK'd the babby for the most part.
>>722009535>>722009657>game about bugs has a sidequest about something that actually happens to bugs all the time (google wasps)>"this must be social commentary about our society"grim
>>722010337It's in hunter's march
>>722010337It's garbage anyways and anyone who uses it is a shitter who is prepping for failure, if anything gets you to 1 hp in the first place you're going to die anyways
>>722010337I think you buy it from an ant merchant?
>>722009275does she even say SHAAAAAAAAAAW her game?
>>722010160That's mt fay.
>>722010248>brings soulsshit out of nowhereYou don't belong in videogame discussion
>>722010428Then it should be really easy to prove me wrong instead of doubling down on whataboutism, faggotThe slab is objectively not mt. fay, you get there from the very end of the area through the bellway
>>722010390There's three total IIRCRoom above bench in Hunter's MarchGreymoor where the Flea Caravan parks (obviously if the Caravan is there now it won't spawn)Room at top of shaft in Bilewater
What are Hornet’s canon events?
>>722010337It sells from the ant merchant that also sells the boomerang (though if you're in act 3 he's already dead probably). It's more useful in the early/mid game when you don't have that many masks
>>722010443The way to my fay is open. It's the prison part of the slab that's locked.
>>722010580the confusion started because you said you hadn't gone through the slab because you encountered that freezing effect, and most people here seemed to be unaware you could reach that left outside wall inside the slab and so they thought you must've meant the area left to the bellstation, which is the way to mt fay.
I wonder if Hornet will win Queen of /v/ this year
>>722010675More useful, but it never stops being a lifesaver because it lets you survive any amount of damage with one mask unless you eat multiple hits
>>722010446It's still alive.
>>722002874It’s the Fromsoft effect. Instead of understanding what made their previous game good they just see the streamer celebrating beating Malenia after 150 tries and they go “oh people want more of that”.
>>722004695I beat Nyleth and still not sure I "got" the gimmick. Are you supposed to like, pogo off the spike balls or something? I just clung to the opposite wall and waited for it to charge across, occasionally jumping out of the way of its orange spit bullets.
>>722010763I'm not that anon, and I know that, and so should those faggots that keep doubling and tripling down on pretending they don't know that
>>722010542I swear she was randomly SHAAWing when I was afk once
>>722010662Rape, tentacle rape, flea gangbang, and stripped naked.
>>722009749Wow, holy shit, I'm fucking stupid. I did the entire fight legit without even considering that a possibility. Normally I consider myself creative too but damn that's a surprise.
>>722010774who else could compare
Stop hating the Beast Crest.
Where are my mossbag lore autism videos... I'm starving... Gourmand has nothing on my famished state...
I like when they headcanon her as having spider fur.
>>722010912he's probably collecting as much info as possible. there's a lot of lore hidden behind interactions you could only see across multiple playthroughs.
>>722010594I feel like I've gone through most of Bilewater that you can traverse without double jump and I don't recall encountering a fly like that.
>>722010904This is what I did
>>722004148Karmelita. Took 6 hours, which is longer than I’ve ever spent on any boss in my entire life. I almost considered quitting the game and spoilering myself. Glad I didn’t.
>>722010903Idk, the tournaments are rife with rigging and weird psyops against popular characters
>>722010904wanderer would have been faster
>>722010904It would be so cool if the dash attack and pogo weren't significantly less fun than hunter
So we all are in agreement that the Shade Lord is currently plapping GMS in the Void right?
>>722007360>Not even savage beastfly 2, which is a noticably harder fight.Dunno man the second one felt easier to me, maybe because the arena is bigger so you have more freedom to dodge and get positioning
>>722006123He hates video games and himself
>>722010916>those broad shouldersWhy are lesbians like this?
>>722011082idk but I think they should continue being like that
Cogwork dancers is just a worse and gayer mantis lords
>>722010904I'm too much of a shitter for a weird heal. Beast and witch are functionally nonexistent for me.
>>722003203That's just the reality of being a le woman.
>>722011151No they fucking shouldn't. It's extremely fucking gay and not in a good way.
>>722011170Basically, but on the merit of being a mantis lords knock off it's better than most bosses in the silksong anyway.
>>722011172Beast can heal you?
Phantom was the best boss in the game so far, I just reached the end of act 2Granted there's many optional bosses I haven't found yet
>>722002874That's how sequels are meant to be.
>>722011151It looks fucking ugly, probably why troons like it
>>722011151>>722011082Why have you not stopped dilating?
>>722011220Oh well. More beautiful broad shouldered women for me I guess. How terrible.
>>722010987I misremembered; there's a room directly below the "R" in Bilewater on the map.
>>722011082"Lesbians" are just mentally ill women that for one reason or another developed an aversion to men but deep down they still want a man so they turn women into men in their fantasies.
>>722003203Nuu just wanted to taste monster juices, which Hornet was covered in. Not actually interested in Hornet.Grindle was trying to steal and it's conceivable he does this to everyone.Kratt is a perv
>>722011354What's the "R"? I don't have the Bilewater map because you need double jump to get to Shakra.
>>722011040>inherited his father's desire for dominance>inherited his mother's desire for breedingYup and he's enjoying ithttps://files.catbox.moe/at6rlp.png
>>722004148Lace 2Trobbio 2And that fucking fly in the prison
>>722006292>Ruining the game for yourself by going on /v/ and asking for spoilers
So are Radiance and Silk just hanging out in the Abyss somewhere now?
>>722011497Broodmother's arena is so small, but ultimately you win by keeping calm. I freaked out when it started doing the Gruz Mother body slams, but then just stood still, waited for it to get close and dashed to safety while it moved up
>>722009720Maybe you're a retard like me who doesn't realize you're not supposed to step in the mucus you just dodged.
>>722011554Not my fault that the game design is apparently dogshit and the devs expect you to get hit by the slowest, most telegraphed attack ever to get taken to an area organically.
>>722011172Witch is the best crest in the game if you know what you're doing.
>>722011502
>>722006586>>722007012>>722007282You aren't supposed to know that you can go to Mt. Fay until after you beat the first ending, you were playing the game correctly, but now you are here being spoonfed about things you are not necessarily supposed to know about, ruining the game for yourself.
>>722011647>if you know what you're doingThat's precisely the problem.
722011502722011727>still spamming his troon folder
>>722009275I remember during the game journalist welfare copies controversy an anon smugly asserting that he would be happy with the game as long as it had SHAW and ADINE, and that he could safely make a day one purchase because he knew it would.
>>722004515>>722006642You can actually skip Garmond in Greymoor, my sub 5 hour run used Garmond and I never spoke to him there.>get Garmond to appear fighting enemies in Choral Chambers, preferably one of the long hallways at the bottom or middle but not top>talk to him after you help him win>Go to the roof outside Whispering Vaults>He won't be there yet, go back to another area, rest, return>He should now kill an enemy as you arrive>He'll challenge you to a duel which is extremely easy to win>After this he will show up outside the Forum offering to helpI didn't see him once before Act 2 and he still showed up
>>722010912If you're not retarded you should know all the lore just from playing the game yourself.
>>722011502Lily spider?
>>722011321>troons troons troons troons troonsCan you just shut the fuck up. The day I concede yuri is somehow a fucking tranny thing is the day I'm fucking dead.You fucking normalfag tourists need to just leave if shit like yuri bothers you so damn much. God fucking damn it.
>>722010337If you combine it with the lifeblood injector and the dice you have yourself a facetank build.
>>722011289Lifesteal when active, anon. Keep up.
>>722011761This entire chain began with me simply asking how come nobody came to help me during the Conductor gauntlet >>722004515 because I knew you can get help for it and then someone said Shakra can help you if you finish her questline by buying all her maps.
>>722010912Silksong's scattered lore doesn't cohere into anything particularly satisfying or interesting, so mossbag is now busy trying to come up with a headcanon that's going to make it sound better. It'll take him a bit more time because he knows "so uh Pharloom tells us that religion is bad mkay" won't be particularly satisfying.
>>722011913Lower your HRT dosage sis, it's making you more aggressive than usual.
>>722007049Honestly, just replace the mask on her helmet with a human face and she'd fit right into Blasphemous as a boss. Maybe also make her helmet extra conical and pointy for good measure too.
>>722010879You pogo off Nyleth and use that to bait out its attacks, usually it will either do the horn swipe or explosion, so you dash back to the safe wall, then resume pogoing until it switches walls. You can smack the spike balls back at it for damage too.
>>722011761>You aren't supposed to know that you can go to Mt. Fay until after you beat the first endingThere is nothing blocking or obscuring the way from the citadel to mt fay. It was the first act 2 location I found after the semi-obligatory underworks to citadel trip.
>>722011727>>722011894probably a typo or mistranlation
>>722011913>The day I concede yuri is somehow a fucking tranny thingbut it is. startlingly so. go visit the yuri board and hang around there for a while and you'll quickly realize how many troons there are, there's a strong correlation
>>722011645They don't expect that. They expect SOME people to get caught by that. For the rest, they expect people to explore at some point, which can be after seeing the credits for the first time. You were playing the game as intended and could have had a ton of fun discovering these things at your own pace, like I did, instead you came here and got spoiled and now you're just following a checklist instead of playing the game.
>>722011303>t. Soulstranny
>>722011913Whether you concede or not, it's the truth.
>>722011913Yurishit is trannyshit. You are a tranny. Dilate, troony troony tranny troontroon.
Lace is the worst character in the game and these threads were a lot comfier before the spammer managed to reach her and realised she existed
>>722012004Yes, the entire chain began with you already being spoiled on a secret that made you stop playing the game organically, and now you're going deeper and deeper into Ubisoft checklist behaviour in this game that is literally ABOUT exploring a world for yourself. You're not supposed to know that you can have help in that fight, I certainly didn't. I can't fathom why people ruin their own experiences like this.t. got 100% completely blind and had a fantastic time.
>>722011761Now this is just wrong. Do you seriously not have enough faustian spirit to try braving the cold and seeing what happens?
>>722012083>>722011913The modern 4channer is so thin skinned that you can reliable make them upset by posting completely innocuous yuri. They will not survive the coming winter.
>>722012112>For the rest, they expect people to explore at some point, which can be after seeing the credits for the first time.not really? they lead you to a slab with a quest from first shrine anyway, you are supposed to explore it sooner or later
>>722012106>go visit /u/Why would I subject myself to visit the most schizo fucking board on this goddamn website. And that's got nothing to do with trannies by the way. Faggots like ACK can shit up a board and topic perfectly fine without a single drop of HRT in them trust me->>722012017>>722012152>>722012215You do not belong here.
>>722012278Lace is for adult human males only. Same for Hornet.
>>722012278true
>>722012368A tranny made this post.>>722012389And this one.Dilate.
>>722012368
>>722012065Yeah, you aren't NOT supposed to know either. The game doesn't care. That's the whole point. People are supposed to have their own unique experience exploring the game.The freezing effect in Mt. Fay and the fact you have to push quite far to discover that you can get through it without some heat-resistant upgrade suggests the devs expected MOST people to not go there until they've beaten the first ending though, once they've exhausted most other options.
>>722012368>>722012389So when will you actually stop dilating?
>>722012278Same problem as Arcane.>something is initially cool/interesting and happens to have yuri bait>creators start doing yuri shit more than making cool/interesting>fandom becomes infested with yuritroons and everyone else is repelled from it>eventually the content of the thing becomes shit because the creators are just pandering to yuritroonsLuckily Team Cherry are smart enough to just keep baiting the yuri stuff instead of actually doing it, and Silksong is great enough that I don't mind it. But I don't want to see these games go down that same road.
>>722012334I got 100% completion with zero outside help, don't talk to me about faustian spirit. I bet you didn't.
>>722012389>And that's got nothing to do with trannies by the way./u/ is full of manhating trannies calling each other sisters though?
>>722012478But the fact that there are warm spots in the cold is something that is established during the prison break so a player would know to look for them
>>722012524The game entertains precisely zero yuribait, this is literally the exact thing you see with dante and vergil but somehow less autistic
>>722012478If that were true they wouldn't have bothered gating Shakra's help in the high halls gauntlet behind it.
>>722012470
>>722010897now that I think about it, it's probably when /v/ had a little hornet in the corner of the screen, did she randomly say shaw there?
>>722012524The game has no gaybaiting honestly, but redditors cannot let go of their gayshit obsession they've been having for 7 years.
>>722012524Doesn't hornet consistently refer to lace as a child? I don't even think they are baiting, I think this is a literal example of people just seeing Two female characters interacting and declaring they must be gay
>>722011467Fired up an old save just for you anon>Bilewater Bellway>Up and to the right til you see the room with Shakra's ring above the left entrance>In the next room to the right find the upwards exit>In the room above pogo those exploding green orbs on your right and you'll find one asleepAlso just realized how much I rely on the double jump and clawline. Don't really relish a fresh run without all my mobility skills.
>tranny keeps spamming xis folder
>>722012585/u/ is filled with schizos of the highest order that will use any excuse possible to justify their ships. They're basically livejournal teenagers with 200% more mental illness. So yes a lot of them are retarded enough to resort to lefty argument points. But at the end of the day it's all about shipping with a yuri bend.Stop assuming that everyone that just likes some cute lesbians kissing is going to be a schizo of that nature you fucking jackass. You genuinely do not understand what /u/niggers are like if you think anyone here is behaving. Go start a Gridman thread on /a/ with the MC paired with one of the girls and see what happens.
>>722012697
>>722006170Middle bit is something like>Can't you read the mood? Get out of here
did you guys know using flintslate pauses the freeze timer while it's up
Only problem I really have with lost lace is that her parry counter flurry lasts like a full half second longer than it really should, and deals full damage the whole way through
>>722012735The relationship between Hornet and Lace at the end of the game is more "strict Asian mom and bratty niece who's never been slapped before" more than anything. Hornet rescuing Lace at the end is also Hornet becoming a mother toward Lace and taking her under her wing. While Lace is an unrepentant, greedy cunt, that's also largely because she's a child who's never had a motherly figure in all her years of life. The only time GMS likely ever held Lace was after she cut her arm off.
>>722012837I agree with him now honestly, you're not really a man of any description
Bruh
>>722012302God, you're such an annoying autist. It's fucking impossible to not get spoiled on a few things here or there if you want to talk about the game while playing through it.Also, you're full of shit about finding out about Mt. Fay being unintended because I found the place by myself, I just incorrectly assumed you needed a powerup for the freeze mechanic because that's usually how metroidvanias work but apparently the game only teaches you this mechanic if you get hit by a single, very easy to avoid attack of a single, non-respawning enemy. If this isn't shit game design I don't know what is.
>>722011301Phantom Hitless is just kicking my ass
>>722012915
>>722012604When you first reach Mt. Fay as an inquisitive player who goes places early you're going to go as far as you can, hit a tall wall you can't get up(because you don't have the clawline yet or even know that the rings mean anything), and start freezing to death. Then you're probably not going to go back there anytime soon.
>>722012524This game has 0 yuri baiting and all the fan art you see on internet is just that, fan art
>>722012691It's called a secret, idiot. This game is kind of full of them?
>>722005034>>722005498Most people assumed Dirtmouth is on the surface because it just kinda looks like that but apparently a TC guy said in discord or something that Dirtmouth is underground. But in-game text heavily implies that the Howling Cliffs at least are on the surface. But then in Silksong we see an area that looks like the surface but is underground unless Pharloom is contained in a mountain or plateau or something like that. The only thing we know for sure is that Silksong's surface area is definitely the surface.
>>722007520Converting a lesbian with your cock is the best fetish
Shippingcucks ruin yet another thread GREAT
>>722013104Autists like that keep other autists in check.
>>722013281lesbian_conversion is the best fucking tag ever. The best art of yuri anime/manga is art of all the girls getting pounded straight by men.
>>722012808IIRC the snail from the shrine says something along the lines that she is a child in body and mind but have lived for quite long time now meaning granny silk's kid has stunted development.
>>722013293HowYou're intentionally refusing to talk about the game with all the people talking about the gameIf anything we need more hardcore shit posted to gatekeep you people completely
>>722013146You shouldn't be talking about the game while playing through it. You should finish the game and then talk about it.Also, FINDING Mt. Fay isn't unintended - what's intended is exactly what you say, that you're supposed to assume you need an upgrade for it and leave, and then come back much later when you're running out of places to go and still haven't found any such upgrade. That's the organic way to figure it out.The part about the game teaching you the mechanic if you get caught is bullshit, you're just falling for more bullshit because you're spoiling yourself instead of playing the game. I got caught and it certainly didn't teach me that Mt. Fay is traversable without another upgrade, in fact you CAN'T enter it if you get caught early because you need the clawline or autistic speedrunning tricks.This whole discussion is just you destroying the game experience for yourself, and calling it shit game design because... you destroyed the game experience.
>>722013146it doesn't really teach you the mechanic if you get captured either, because when you're in the slab and get to the outside areas you're also cold but i assumed it was because i didn't have my cloak. in retrospect after seeing i got cold regardless it should've clicked right there but it only happened later. i think they could've added an out of reach but very clearly visible torch at the edge of the platform you see if you keep walking left to the entrance of mt fay to show you that yes you can traverse, but you just can't reach it, so players would know they don't need a special varia suit.
>>722013293Yuri game faggot Get used to it
>>722013219>0 baitingYeah man, 0baitAnyway who gives a single shit if it has baiting, if it's canon, if it isn't. It's a ship. It doesn't not have to be canon, it never had to be. Anyone insisting on debating the canonicity of the ship is a faggot regardless of which side you're on.
>>722013549A tranny drew this to be honest with you senpai.
>>722013639Yep those weapons sure are standing next to each other
>>722013639Alright, what's that supposed to mean? I'm genuinely interested in your schizo angle.
these threads have now become niggerly enough to be forever cast into /vg/
>>722013639look man i find the yurishit exhausting too but seeing what's essentially the two main characters's weapons next to each other after completing the game and calling it yuribait is pure brainrot.
>>722013237It's a crutch, not a secret. They knew the high halls gauntlet would filter people. So the Shakra assist is there for people who leave to find more power ups and end up completing her quest along the way.
>>722002256team cherry watched to much anime
>>722013415Why are there so few pictures of this on gelbooru? I swear there was more once, then it was called lesbian_rape once.Also whats the pixiv and Sadpanda tags for this?
am I the only one who immediately went to mount fay upon getting the clawlineI had seen the rings there earlier and figured I'd just try and see how far I can get before freezing to deathI did spent most of my rosaries beforehand I guess, so I wasn't that worried about losing anything deep in the zone
>>722013543The whole point of the design of Mt. Fay is that you're SUPPOSED to assume you can't go there. That's why you don't need the double jump to beat Act 2. The moment when you've exhausted most other paths you can think of and finally decide to leap into what appears to be certain death at Mt. Fay only to finally find that torch is one of the big game design SUCCESSES in Silksong. The fact that people don't understand this(likely because they never got to experience this discovery organically, but instead were told online to go there and then ask "but how was I supposed to know") shows just how brain rotted most players are.
>>722013489>we need more faggotryWe both know it'll just cause even more shitposting.
>>722013831I did the High Halls gauntlet last (not intentionally, it just so happened that I did the other two first), and I don't even remember if Shakra asked me if I wanted her assistance.
>>722013813Moot was right. General threads were a fucking mistake.
>>722013427Never mentioned anything about stunted development, and really, Lace is a uniquely created being made entirely of silk so it's hard to gauge what her growth is even meant to be, if at all. The only thing most people know for sure is that she was created to be Silk's child and she's been hunting pilgrims for a long time.Basically, she's the polar opposite of Hornet; instead of hunting those that wish to do harm to others, Lace is hunting others to do harm unto them.
>>722013753>>722013724>>722013829You're not dragging me into a shipping war. I've already done more than I should have.Back to the FACTUAL matter at hand. Yuri is not some troon shit. Find a rope if you think it is.
>>722013536>and then come back much later when you're running out of places to go and still haven't found any such upgrade. That's the organic way to figure it out.This isn't what you said tho. You said I should finish the game before before I find out. If I have to finish the game to find this out then it's shit game design.Anyways, again, you're full of shit because apparently if you get captured by that fat fly faggot then the game teaches you how to deal with the cold mechanic, so no, clearly you aren't meant to think you need a powerup for it and it's just shit game design.
>>722013831Correct. It's in fact great game design. But you're not supposed to know about it as a regular player of at least decent skill who's playing the game for themselves. It's for guideshitters.
>>722013890It was either my first destination or my second, depending on whether or not I remembered the ring in Deep Docks first.
>>722013982You can't even justify your schizo ship anon, I pity you.
I'm against lost lace and it's just boringi have contact damage fatigue, it's unironically absolute fucking dogshit design and the game would feel infinitely better to play if enemies hit you for like FOUR masks with a hit instead of getting contact damage'djust keep it for bosses that hugely rely on their hitboxes to be threatening but otherwise it's just shit
>>722013813>shit up the thread all day with crap nobody bites>has to samefag it relentlessly>like one or two dudes bite>we did it reddit this thread has become unusable!!nice try.
>>722013950You have to go extremely far out of your way to get Shakra to appear, it requires getting all the maps which requires going to areas that you won't normally even find until you're going for the true ending.
>>722013982The matter at hand was that you implied that that title screen was yuribaiting, the fact you so quickly want to change subject suggests even you don't believe it yourself
>>722013982>Find a rope if you think it is.Don't you worry, yuritrannies do it all the time.
>>722013536You know exactly what upgrade you need for mt fay. The rings are right there. People getting confused and thinking they need something to combat the cold is likely unintended as just past the first clawline rings is the clue that you're expected to get up it through the cold.
>>722013919Yeah, from you
>>722006687You can get the map without double jumping? You can't even pogo off enemies/cocoon because the bottom of the room lacks anything to damage you with.
>>722013886Far as I can tell, it's a tag only really used by rule34 and sankaku complex. Think your best bet would be>female:corruptionand to look specifically for art of girls from yuri-focused series, like Adachi Sakura from Adachi to Shimamura. God fucking bless the based motherfucker who keeps commissioning porn of Sakura getting fucked straight and/or snuffed hard. Pic related is such a GOAT comic; can't wait to see it completed.
>>722013640
>>722013893you think? i didn't get that impression, i just thought i was dumb in retrospect, but i tried going there anyway as soon as i got the clawline because i wanted to get as far as i could before i died since there was a bench right there anyway
>>722014112Nope, I just like to explore every nook and cranny possible before moving along with the plot. But I guess it could be difficult to trigger is you don't choose to leave the Conductor melody for last.
>>722006843This entire line ruined everything about Hollow Knight for me. Look at her. Look at her succulent curves and tell me this wasn't specifically designed to elicit arousal. Tell me this isn't bait to make you desire used goods. Team Cherry is full of cucks. Every single one of those australian fucks played us for fools, making sure to design the sexiest creatures known to man, only to be met with the gut punch that they're used goods with gaping vaginas taking black cock every single day. I can't imagine the state of all Hornetfags out there who have actual standards, the hurt they must be feeling knowing their wife wasn't saving herself for them. The chinese review bombing wasn't enough. We need every possible language to review bomb these dirty fucks for taking away the purity of our bug wife. I will not be able to sleep until this justice has been undone. Make them patch it out. Make them listen to the fans for fucking once.
>>722014016I said finish the FIRST ENDING. After which it is obvious that you're supposed to explore more. Once again, you are blaming the game for problems that you brought upon yourself and which are in fact perfectly well designed when you're actually playing the game without spoilers. And no, the game does NOT teach you how to deal with the cold mechanic if you get captured, like I already said. You don't even know any of these things, you're going completely off of random /v/ posts and blaming the game for A: Misinformation you read on /v/ and B: Problems YOU caused. The game did nothing wrong, and you did everything wrong, and now you will NEVER have the amazing experience I did playing this game.
>>722014202I'd rather see no shipping faggotry since it always attracts some of the lowest-IQ posters in 4chan.
>>722014323>And no, the game does NOT teach you how to deal with the cold mechanic if you get captured, like I already said.But it absolutely does?
>>722014112Yeah I probably found Shakra everywhere she could be found before the gaunlet, I remember getting an achievement for it. Probably found her master with her too beforehand.
>>722014323Interesting I didn't have issues like this while playing through Hollow Knight. It really just seems to me that the game's design is shit.
>>722014128The fact I want to change the subject is that you dismissing obvious symbolism shows me that this has no other way to end but a shitfling.Notice I never claimed this shit's canon. You asked for the bait I provided the bait. If you think TC wasn't aware of what they were doing when they did that title screen, then I dunno what to tell you.
>>722014024>She's a flea mommy
>>722014019I got her help without knowing it would happen. I like to complete as much side stuff as I can before doing the main story. And Shakra's stuff is hard to miss. Unlike that nigger Garmond whose duel I missed.
>>722014164No you don't, unless, again, you spoiled yourself on what upgrades exist. The rings just look like background decorations or a trail leading to Shakra if you get to Mt. Fay for the first time after getting captured, before unlocking the Clawline.It's eludicating to read all these terrible takes about game design that entirely come from a place of players having spoiled themselves in advance and not being able to even imagine what the organic experience of discovery is like.
>>722014439i mean, for all intents and purposes mt fay is a completely optional area. if that had been the critical path then i'd agree but making it look inaccessible when it isn't doesn't sound like a big deal to me.
>Beat the game and the TLB>Kill every secret boss>Just now find out there's a secret Weavenest in the past the toilet swamp in Bilewater that gives you a fucking gun>Nothing to use it on nowIt's not fair bros, guns are my favorite in games like this. I even rocked the rosary cannon for a while.
>>722014442Obvious symbolism is their weapons standing next to each other=gay?
>>722014024I wish fleas were this adorable and nice IRL.
>>722014442>obvious symbolismTo who, as I even implied it's just their weapons next to each other, literally how does your mind go from that to they want to fuck each other, I really want to know
>>722014365Yeah, like you
>>722014228And did it not feel cool when you found the first torch? Like you discovered a secret? Exactly how a good metroidvania is supposed to work? The fact that the game doesn't handhold and signpost you is a strength.
>>722014563NANI
>>722014608Whatever helps you sleep.
>>722004197>placing fleatopia under the deep docks.Fucking retarded.
>>722014568Sexually
>>722014649Share my pain bro. It's not only one gun either you get a choice to make it into three different kinds of guns.
>>722014537>The rings just look like background decorationsIs this the first video game you've played? It is extremely obvious that there is some kind of upgrade tied to them. They're at mt fay, they're at the entrance to the high halls, there's the one in the deep docks, and I think there's more I'm forgetting. Point is, you see these things all over the place specifically in locations you can't reach.
>>722014642well yes, i'm just saying i don't think it would've ruined anything if it had been slightly more obvious. it wasn't like a huge standout moment in my mind or anything, i just thought "oh i'm dumb, i could've gotten here earlier".
>>722014439Maybe you didn't play Hollow Knight while being spoonfed on /v/ about things you aren't actually supposed to know?It's like complaining that the first game doesn't tell you that you need to get 1500 Essence to unlock the White Palace, before you even finish the first ending. You're not supposed to know that, you're supposed to beat the fucking Hollow Knight, and then ponder all the loose threads, go back and explore more, and eventually unlock the upgraded Dream Nail and discover the White Palace organically.
>>722014536That just means you're not the average player, you're a completionist, and discovering this secret is your reward.
I am not enjoying Bilewater:(
>>722014950Happens to all of us, but it grows on you.It does not, in fact, grow on you
>>722014808Now this is some nice schizoshit.
>>722014820Background decorations is a Jonathan Blow reference I think, also no one says eludicating so he's just fucking around
>>722014989it did for me actuallyI found the secret bench though
>>722014843>It's like complaining that the first game doesn't tell you that you need to get 1500 Essence to unlock the White Palace??? The game very clearly tells you to keep collecting essence and they don't hide any essence source behind anything. I got the "true" end in HK without looking anything up because the game was very clear with what it wanted from you.
>>722002375she didn't even take her clothes off, what a scam
>>722009657Why does she wear her cloak during the operation?
>>722015071Me too, would never have beaten Groal otherwise, but it's still a disgusting place
>>722014820If you haven't been to the Citadel yet when you get to Mt. Fay it's absolutely not obvious that the rings are a traversal mechanic - there's very few of them you can see before that, and they pretty much just look like the rings you have to smack to summon Shakra if she's away from her spot in town. Meaning it's natural to assume that "Oh, these might mean Shakra is over there, but I need a double jump to get up this wall". And if it takes a long time after that before you unlock the Clawline, you'll likely have forgotten about them.
>>722014584ntaTo me
where do I find those guy in act 3? normally theyre all over the upper section of cogwork core but that entire area is gone now so...
>>722008256You need to get caught by non-respawning jailers that hang in some rooms. Sorry bro.
I was lied to. This thread isn't comfy at all.
The yuri spam is getting obnoxious, especially when fucking nothing in the actual game supports this retarded ship.
>>722015108well, a friend got the first half of the white fragment and had no fucking clue where to find the other half, and never made the connection to "awoken dreamnail -> dreamnail the dead body next to the palace grounds" until he asked me, but also didn't have trouble going through mt fay without being told you could do it without a varia suit. different things are more or less cryptic to different people.
>>722015108Yes, I am literally saying that neither is a problem. You're going to get the 1500 Essence organically, and you're going to figure out that you can go through Mt. Fay organically. There's plenty of clues towards it in both cases. Are you stupid?
Why is Grand Gate its own area? It's so smol and there's nothing there except the spool fragment
>>722015116She's not comfortable getting naked in front of doctors, the Seamstress is ok though
>>722015205Don't worry, they're still around, I think in one of the rooms near the bottom of the core.
>>722015234it is pretty comfy if you ignore the obvious raiders (and also most people become active at night because they're probably wagies)
>>722015262It's just what happens when there are no romantic interests, shippers start reaching.
>>722015328Map purposes.
>>722015262It's all hilariously tumblrshit.
>>722014843Uh.. the dream moth literally spoonfeeds you each time you collect essence what you need to keep doing and what it will allow you to do.
>>722013250>>722008410You find a third sister dead who had the wreathe
>>722014216Thanks bro, I didn't even know of this series, I will check it.For me its the Sono Hanabira girls, everytime an artist dicks one theres some yuri schizos chimping out in the comments so they usually delete the post. So Sono Hanabira is kinda the sacred cow of yuri schizos.If you dont mind sloppa then theres someone using AI to make hetero pictures of Sono Hanabira characters using CGs and the OVA , good shithttps://www.pixiv.net/en/users/18638914
>>722015194I got there through the citadel, but it should still be obvious even if you didn't. They look very different from Shakra's rings and, again, they are over a gap you can't clear. And unlike something like the entrance to chef lugoli's lair, it's a whole area being gated. So it's a lot harder to forget.
>>722015607Doesn't the moth turn into a single firefly when she dies like the bugs we see in this game, what are the implications
>>722013536Nigger, the moment I got the clawline I beelined to every place where I had seen those rings, including mount fay, and proceeded to explore the area. You can hear Shakra singing basically the moment you get across the gap where you need the clawlines and there you discover the heatsources as well.The idea that you need to be spoiled on that region just to explore it is laughable.
>>722015327What you said is that you're meant to beat the knight before you figure out the essence. That's complete and utter horseshit. The Seer literally tells you to keep bringing essence to her and you bump into every source of essence by simply playing the game. You don't have to go out of your way to find essence and the game doesn't try to trick you into not getting essence.
>>722015654For some reason I thought that was a weaver.
>>722015841You did better than me, I didn't even notice a corpse
>>722013890It was my first destination too.
>>722015005It's kino pilled
>>722004148nyleth
>>722013890I went to it second after the deep docks door.
>>722013890I headed there almost imedeately after getting the clawline as well, and once I found Shakra and figured out the heat source thing I explored the rest of the region.
>>722015737>>722015705I got 100% completion completely blind. You're not arguing with someone who disagrees with you, I'm just talking about the perspective of the average player that the game is designed for. The average player is not expected to explore Mt. Fay before finishing the first ending... which is why the double jump is optional.>>722015742You're meant to beat the HK and see the first ending before discovering the White Palace and the path towards the true ending, yes. Fucking obviously. You're not even supposed to beat Hornet 2 and unlock the Abyss before beating the HK for the first time.
HELP before archive.Should I free the green prince or open the door in the worm area?
>>722016214Green prince doesn't do much for you until act 3 so the worm area is more worth while.
>>722016214You'll get enough keys for everything eventually.
>>722016214Worm.The green prince you can come back later no problem.
>>722016164>You're meant to beat the HK and see the first ending before discovering the White Palace and the path towards the true ending, yes. Fucking obviously. You're not even supposed to beat Hornet 2 and unlock the Abyss before beating the HK for the first time.This is complete fucking nonsense. I discovered all of it on my first playthrough completely blind.
>>722015328You think Pharloom would let you walk around without needing to drop some rosaries in the citadel instantly? Think again, BITCH.
>>722016214I went with the Prince but that's because I don't spoil myself and it obviously seemed much more urgent to save someone from a deadly prison. I don't know if you'll miss any encounters with him if you don't save him right away.
>>722016338>>722016352>>722016356Thanks, love yalls!
>>722016164>You're meant to beat the HK and see the first ending before discovering the White Palace and the path towards the true ending, yes. Fucking obviously. You're not even supposed to beat Hornet 2 and unlock the Abyss before beating the HK for the first time.Nta but Hornet at the fountain encourages you to find her at the Kingdom's Edge. So it isn't as if the game isn't pushing you towards the King's Brand even before you theoretically fight the Hollow Knight.
>>722016164There's a difference between not expected and not required. You also don't need double jump to beat the hollow knight. But I stumbled upon it almost as soon as I was able to get there and triggered infected crossroads that way just simply because of how I happened to wander around.
>>722016389Of course some people will do that, but 99% of players who play without spoilers are going to do the first ending... first. And then like a third of those players are going to keep exploring and discover the true ending.
Phantom first bros where we at, also the numbers have sure gone up, remember people acting like Last Jugde would be a filter lol
>>722016214He told you not to let him out.
>>722015841You didn't notice the same balloon as the pinstress and the seamstress? You can play the needolin here too and one of the lines is "dear sisters"
>can't infinite hover over enemies by down attacking because hornet does some weird diagonal descent strikebros I was filtered
>>722015328It kind of feels like there is a missing area that was cut/left out between sands of kharak, grand gateway, choral chambers and the slab.
>>722016465I noticed the house. But I'm retarded and didn't make the connection.
>>722016483She calls it the "grave in ash", which leads the typical player to believe they've found what she talked about when they get to the Resting Grounds, a literal ashen graveyard. The game wants you to find the true ending, but not before doing the regular one. The regular one is the reveal about what the purpose of the Knight(and Hollow Knight) is, and the path to the true ending spoils it casually expecting the player to already know.
>>722016554You do "need" the double jump to reach the Hollow Knight without speedrunning tricks. You're not expected to find it until towards the end of the game though, which is why it triggers the Infected Crossroads.
>>722016682I played the needolin there and I think it was the sisters line that led me astry. I saw that and just thought "well obviously sisters means weavers" because I'm dumb.
>>722016703just change crests.
>>722016706You mean the area that is nothing but thin air surrounding the Citadel?
>>722016483Yes, BUT you get big markers on searching the fountain on your map, the Hornet conversation doesn't put a marker on your map.For smoothbrains who don't pay attention, big marker on map >>> some text you can't even look up after it happened
>>722012106>posts a screenshot of the yuri board ON REDDITyeah no fucking shit
>>722016843Oh yeah, I forgot about needing it for watcher knights. Still, I found it before I got to any of the dreamers.
>>722016454I met him only once afterwards in the citadel after killing the dancers so you probably don't miss much.
>>722016931Grimm troupe blimp incoming.
What boss is getting the Sister of Battle treatment
>>722016737>She calls it the "grave in ash", which leads the typical player to believe they've found what she talked about when they get to the Resting Grounds,I genuinely can't even remember my first HK playthrough and I can't even be sure it wasn't tainted but why would anyone assume the Resting Grounds is what Hornet talks about when it isn't at all filled with ash? Also you can reach the Resting Grounds before the movement tech required to maneuver it, you just need to get double jump before you can do anything there.>>722016992Fair enough, I'm just saying that unless you ignore Hornet, it's realistic you'll find more stuff beyond the designated HK ending.
>>722016992See >>722016737Smoothbrains aren't going to remember what she said. Smart people are going to remember and be tricked by the game into thinking they already found it. Also, the markers for the Dreamers appear when you find what you believe to be the "Grave in Ash", further reinforcing the belief that it's what she talked about. You only get the Hollow Knight mark on your map from checking the fountain.
>>722017170No boss really has the "3 at the same time" thin that Mantis Lords could pull.At least I know the Nailmaster duo is gonna be Pinstress and Seamstress.
>>722016931It never seemed like that that area was meant to be empty in universe when I was playing the game. I was expecting there to be some way to it eventually. The way the grand gateway is built seems to lead to some area we never gain access to, same with the lower parts of the choral chambers right next to the gateway. We even enter the choral chambers out of some fucking maintenance tunnels rather than any doorway in the gateways, and when we do unlock the passages between them even that is a fucking air duct. We never get to see the actual way via which you would have entered the Citadel via the grand gateway the "real way" besides the elevator that also doesn't lead anywhere once it gets rekt.
lost lace's p3 is a visual mess and a msierable experience
I beat grand mother silk and bound her, ending in act 2.I know I missed out on a lot of things (gay mantis, clockwork heart robot leaving somewhere, diving bell) but I genuinely have no clue what to do next.What's the least spoilery tip to starting act 3?
>>722017218Reach the Kingdom's Edge*
>>722017419Ah Cogwork Dancers + Gay Prince, what about that
>>722017505Do most questsGo back to songclave
>>722017170Khann. He only works as the final fight of a gauntlet. So he'd need a reworked version for the pantheon or pharloom.
>>722015205There's a room on the left edge of Cogwork Core with a platform that spawns 2 enemies at a time for a gauntlet, near where you first find Second Sentinel. That room will continually spawn 2 random cogwork enemies every time you leave and re-enter, I don't think you even need to sit at a bench, just leave the room. That's how I got most of my cogwork log entries finished.
>>722017426Yeah, how did Sherma make it in from that path?
>>722017545Other than the polyps, silver bells, gourmand and meat I have. Maybe a delivery or two missed.The board in songclave is empty, either way.
>>722017627He's just built different
>>722017218The Resting Grounds are gray, close enough to ash. Kingdom's Edge doesn't appear to be a grave until you learn about the Wyrm, but Resting Grounds are literally nothing but graves. It's a very strong misdirect, I doubt anyone who actually pays close attention to the information they get didn't get misled by this. It's a trap for smart people, not stupid people.Smart people are going to find Hornet regardless though from just looking at the obvious double jump spot on the map. But almost no one is going to get 1500 Essence before doing the regular ending, that's insanity. As a completionist obviously you CAN do it, but most people who DO get on the trail towards the true ending are going to reason that "I better finish the main story now before going further, so I don't accidentally permanently miss an ending by unlocking the true ending". That was the case for me.
>>722012824Can you reach the fly without double jump?
>>722017218>why would anyone assume the Resting Grounds is what Hornet talks about when it isn't at all filled with ash?people have fixated on the "grave" part thinking it means "graveyard", like the ones in resting grounds.
>>722017439Unironically the flooding noises were the biggest distracting nuisance to me.
>>722017627He asked the friendly choristers for directions.
>>722017426The world is 3D anon. There are more ways than we can actually access on the 2D plane. You literally see in the Act 2 cutscene that there's a huge open area surrounding the Citadel with bridges spanning it, and when you go to the far left spots in the Choral Chambers you reach windows and balconies with a view towards the empty outside, same thing when you go to the far right in the Slab.
>>722017828>black boss on a dark gray background attacking with black and gray projectiles while teleporting anywhere including its own black coloured attacksI think I'm just gonna call it quit, I've stopped enjoying the game after the first five hours
>>722017730Yeah, only the wall climb ability is needed.
>>722017914>dark grayCome on, it's not that dark. For being in the void, there's a lot more white than black.
>>722017939I'll check it out then. I hope I didn't kill it and just forgot about it.
>>722017716The Kingdom's Edge is was more obviously a "grave of ash" than Resting Grounds in my opinionAs for getting 1.5k essence, depends. Once you find Hornet and the King's Brand just general exploration might eventually lead you on the right path.
>>722017170TWO savage beastflies
>>722017914Yeah, it’s annoying especially when she goes offscreen and you can’t really tell what she’s doing. But quitting now? After going to the rest of the fucking game?
>>722018272I just want to play something else, I've been launching silksong for days out of habit but I have so many other games I want to play a lot more than this 6/10 game I kept playing out of autistic obsession about finishing my gamesbeing a wagie doesn't help either, I'm wageslaving all day and wasting all my freetime on an average, drawn out gamegod I want to die, I haven't enjoyed anything in a week
>>722018104It needs to be more obvious than that, like this one thing changes the battle completely
>>722018414Then TAKE A BREAK
>>722017170The dancers. GP joins in as a third wheel.
>>722017702Look if a certain npc there want to talk to you, if he doesn't search for fleas
>>722018859I think that works best and you can even have another phase where his gay ghost lover joins in
>>722017702Then do most of thoseSome are also possibly gating other quests
>>722019107Either that or for phase 2 he kills his robo counterpart himself and buffs the fight
>>722019052>>722019115I guess I will, thanks anons.
>>722019170His robo clone I meant, not his partner.
