Why haven't we still gotten a good Berserk game?
>>722014167the ps2 game is pretty good
why does Griffith look like that
>shitty game:I>shitty game based on anime:O
>>722014279Looks the same gay to me.
Berserk really hits the fucking wall after the eclipse. It's not bad, but it becomes apparent that Miura has no intention on actually concluding the story. Instead, he keeps introducing side objectives and a constant stream of new characters, and the magic powers and berserker armor essentially turn it into a superhero story. Again, it's not bad, but it's a far cry from the golden age arc.
>>722014167I would love to see Fromsfot and Miyazaki remake the Dreamcast game. It has:1. An original story and designs by Miura.2. It officially is part of the canon, as a side-story. 3. It has an original good score. The gameplay is a bit wonky and jank, which is where they could fix it.
Rape Casca
>>722014167The PS2 berserk game is so close to being a masterpiece.If the levels were slightly more compact and the monsters didn't constantly respawn (yes I know it's lore accurate but it wasn't fun) it would would be the cornerstone of a whole franchise. No complaints on the boss fights though 10/10
>>722015581Agreed, though it's still enjoyable It turns from a medieval dark fantasy to a generic shonen complete with power of friendship tier superpowers, sidekicks and comedy relief mascot
>>722018269More weight and cool factor than the 2016 abominationOh God, I just realized that shit show was almost a decade ago.
>>722014167And what will it be about? The time when guts got his asshole stretched by this guy?
>>722018489Yeah, the slapstick stuff with Isidro and Puck reaches a point where it's just stupid. Ivalera is hot though and I'd let her dry hump my wee wee so it has that going for it at least.
>>722015581It's pretty crazy watching one guy go through the absolute worst humanity has to offer and come out manifesting a physical suit of rage, just to run around fighting fairies and shit afterwards
>>722014167The follow-up pic is pretty hot
>>722014167Griffith gonna tear that ass up. Both of em.
>>722018871It's sad because Puck was a pretty vital character in the Dark Swordsman segment. I would have probably written of the whole series as miseryporn if there wasn't something to brighten out the constant angst.
>>722014167guy dead thing unfinished
How has Berserk been since Miura passed? I never really gave it a shot because I figured it wouldn't be the same
>>722019960Not much has happened. Griffith comes back via the Moonlight Boy, destroys the elven island and kidnaps Casca. The survivors go back to the ships then are rescued by the Kushans and taken to Kushan HQ where Silat and Rickert reunite with the party. Silat wants Guts because he considers him a formidable warrior but Guts is all despressed because after all this time Griffith still dabbed on him and kidnapped his chick. Rakshas attacks the Kushan capital, Guts doesn't fight back, Silat considers him a lost cause so the Kushans take him to a stupa and lock him inside because his Brand is a threat to all near him. In real life a stupa is a Buddhist shrine where people are meant to go on pilgrimage and be reborn so the idea is that Guts will have some vision inside, probably Beast of Darkness related, he'll come out motivated and go to Falconia with the Kushan army to fight Griffith and rescue the un-potatoed potato.
>>722014167Why did you turn Gut's gf into a nigger?Are you Netflix?
>>722015581berserk is the longest running NTR manga ever created. its all just an extremely long, complicated excuse for guts to get cucked repeatedly by griffith.his latest cucking finally mindbroke him.
>>722022272Oh hey it's this guy again
>>722015581It really fell apart after the second eclipse.
>>722014279He's hoping that trapmaxxing will let him trick Guts in the dark
>>722020570What the fuck, that as far as they've gotten? No wonder Miura died before finishing it. It's probably impossible to have a satisfying ending without major asspulls and contrivances so they should just WRAP IT UP.
>>722023980The second eclipse thing was stupid in its own right, but at least it had Mozgus. The egg-shaped apostle was fucking dumb though; Miura sets up this mystery as to who's pulling the strings around the tower only for it to be a literal who, who just happens to be super important to Griffith's rebirth because magic or some shit.
>>722014167ps2 and dreamcast games are good also just go play dragon's dogma
>>722014167The creator died. Everything about Berserk going forward will always be a bastardized version of itself.
>>722025173>literal who, who just happens to be super important to Griffith's rebirth DUDECAUSALITYLMAO
>>722015581Concluding the manga would mean Miura has a solution to evilthe entire thing is more of an exploration of the concept and of course it leads nowhere as evil is not something that physically exists other than in language
Ivalera is cute, I wish she'd make out with the head of my cock and spin around the shaft like a stripper pole
>>722025173The second eclipse was great because of the apocalyptic tone being felt in the setting. People in towns griffith goes by are beaten down, but nothing yet screamed how desperate the people were than here. Mozgus was fantastic and so were his faithful disciples. The rebirth of Griffith was interesting and I liked the egg apostle
>>722024679I was always looking forward to the systematic elimination of the Godhand for the typical "Four Generals" JRPG trope. There's no way that wasn't Miura's original plan.
>>722014167Berserk should have ended with the 1997 anime. A perfect ending. I have no idea where the Musou game ends.
>>722025657pretty sure it ends on the boat lol
>>722014167Bad source material
>>722025432GUUUUUUUUUUUTTTSSS!!!! THE CAUSALITY IS TELLING ME THAT A FUCKING N I G G E R IN WHO LOOKS LIKE AN EGG FOR SOME REASON IS GOING TO SWALLOW YOUR RETARDED GIRLFRIENDS ABORTED DEMON FETUS ON TOP OF A TOWER OF BLACK DOODOO SLUDGE WHICH WILL CAUSE HIM TO MAGICALLY BECOME GRIFFITH REBORN AS THE ABSOLUTE!!!! GUTS YOU NEED TO PUT ON THE FURSUIT QUICKLY!!! YOU ALSO NEED TO START HANGING OUT WITH LITTLE GIRLS, WHO WILL LET YOU GO BEASTMODE WITHOUT ANY CONSEQUENCES AND MAKE YOUR FURSUIT LOOK LIKE CHRISTIAN BALE'S BATMAN. NO GUTS I WILL NOT ELABORATE, I HAVE TO GO GET MY LAST DOSE OF GILF PUSSY BEFORE GRIFFITH KILLS HER. CAUSALITYYYYYY!!!
>>722025471if berserk had an ending it'd just be a ripoff of shin angyo onshi
>>722025483Ok
>>722015581Berserk went to shit. It's being continued by someone else which is making people consider some previous chapters the "true end" but really nigga, if you put like the previous three volumes of Berserk to someone and said it was written by someone else they'd immediately say they agree and say that "this clearly wasn't written by Miura! He wouldn't procastinate and rape the tone and ghost to play idolm@ster!"
>>722014167
>>722014167We got bad games that looked great.
>>722015581The Golden Age arc is overrated, Conviction is when the manga peaked.
>>722015581I'll see about resurrecting him to tell him to get back to work, anon.
>>722027192Thanks nigga
>>722026740AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>722018886post it then
>>722027078Why can't modern games even have characters whose attacks feel impactful
>>722026740Not gonna lie, this is LITERALLY me when I'm driving
>>722014167DD1 is about as close as you're going to get to a good Berserk game.
>>722027078>top tier animation from a game made 100 years agohow did they do it
>>722014167I wanna look like Griffith
>>722027078That stab into double chop is so fucking good looking I can’t believe it.
>>722015581The Golden Age Arc is great if you care about plot. If you care more about the art or just seeing cool, fantasy stuff, the later arcs are better. Watching Guts gradually form a new party and meet cute little witches is great.
>>722027078>Got the hacking and slashing perfect>Fucked literally everything elseIt hurts
>>722014279they want to be corrected~
>>722015581It's good up until it becomes about Guts' little band of helpers. Miura went insane when he cared more about an annoying little boy and women.
>>722027078>>722028015Are the faults things that couldn't be fixed with a remaster?
>>722025471Being able to point out literal quotes from Aliester Crowley is a first step to rooting out evil. The apostles are driven by the false concept of liberty which Americans (The greater Satan) abide by.
>>722027808Same bro
>>722028015You need more?
>>722027302pepprnsalt
>>722028357Id actually prefer less. The levels sucked to shit to play through.
>>722018813Never mess with buttmad niggies.
>>722015581The fake fairy arc was peak Berserk formula, it peaked after the Eclipse, that was the true wrap up.
>>722014167>we never got a good Berserk game>we never got a good Cowboy Bebop game>we never got a good Fullmetal Alchemist game>we never got a good GANTZ gameWhy cant vidya and anime just get along?
>>722028175I'd rather a sequel than a remake but either way I doubt the people that made the combat even exist anymore as developers. So it probably wouldn't be as clean
>>722015581Lost children is peak Berserk, thoughtbeightPic related it my favorite page of the whole manga
>>722027885>>722028121As great and cute as Schierke, Ivalera and Isma are, my heart will always belong to my beloved Farny. My sweet psychotic little inquisitor. My precious little magician princess. My baby booboo bear with self esteem issues. My holy guardian angel snookums. I will never forgive Miura for selling her off to RoderDICK. My beautiful Farny-bear...stolen by a dogshit background character.... my rage will never be quenched...
>>722027885"Great" if you don't mind the testosterone in the room dropping to zero. Miura should have just written a separate manga for his fucking witches. Then he could have put all his annoying 4th wall breaks about Star Wars in that.
>>722028534Because it's the curse of adaptations. Movies, anime, manga, etc VERY RARELY get good games.
>>722015581Yup. Most of the "fans" praise Berserk as the 2nd coming of Jesus, and it's apparent they've only seen the anime and never continued reading beyond that point. The world for some reason is full of pretenders who desperately try to fit in and will parrot the popular opinion to do so. I will never understand the normie mindset that propels them to act like that for empty validation.
>>722028534You'll continue to eat shonen arena fighter slop and like it
>>722027078>enemies just stand there waiting for their turn to get slashedbravo miyazaki
>>722015581>Miura has*Had:(
>>722028534>Naruto was huge for like 15+ years>never got anything other than low budget trash made by C tier studiosTeenage me would kill for an open world Naruto action RPG with a AAA budget.
Why didn't Griffith rape guts instead of Casca?
>>722028876It's because being a fake "autistic" who has a collection of unique niche interests has become adopted as a performative identity to turbonormie faggots who wear beanies and have ear gages and "aren't like the other guys." But the "niche interests" still have to be popular enough to warrant validation from other normgroids who want to be special. WH40K has recently become infested with these retards.
>>722028876You retards are the only people I've seen claim the golden age is better than the dark swordsman. Literally everyone I've actually seen discuss Berserk points out that everything up to the eclipse is just a prologue and the anime never got to the best parts.
Berserk stole so much stuff from dark souls
>>722018634some guy spliced footage from the Grunbeld fight in the PS2 game into the anime and made it 10x better.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jmCWh3XUhM
>>722029148Because Guts' ass belongs to Donovan and the small pecker of giffindor would never satisfy his boyslut ass like Donovan did.
>>722014247It's not
>>722028534gantz doesn't deserve a good game for making such a dogshit final arc
>>722026380Why does it feel even more gay than lewding regular Griffith?
Just play Berserk and the Band of the Hawk lel
>>722028534>>we never got a good Fullmetal Alchemist gameENTER STRAY RONDO
>>722029449People defend this as great masterful story telling but then claim Made In Abyss goes too far.
>>722015581>Berserk peaked at Golden AgeI'm glad people finally realize that.It's wonderfully drawn manga and has interesting writing, but it really isn't anything amazing past the climax, which was that arc.
>>722015581beserk was literally giga kino wtf do you mean
>>722014279Berserk is a rip off of Devilman.
>>722029518its kino aesthetics bro
>>722028739>"Great" if you don't mind the testosterone in the room dropping to zeroYeah, I don't. Revenge was never going to be the answer and having cute girls/kids who rely on him is all Guts ever really needed to feel complete. So I have no idea what Miura planned on doing to wrap up the story. It's not like fucking Isidro was going to 1v1 one of Griffith's Chad apostles.
>>722029896>Revenge was never going to be the answerIf it was anything but the answer in Berserk, than Miura lost his touch. The monsters in the manga are the most irredeemable pieces of shit in fiction. Including Griffith.
How would you even solve the plot?Griffith won when he became a god.There's nothing cuck Guts can do about it.
>>722029356Clearly everyone does not think the black swordsman part is better, but you just write everyone who doesn't agree with you off as retards. I read the whole thing, my favorite part is easily the golden age arc. The couple parts after that are also pretty great, but after that it starts to meander and decline, and then turns into a basic bitch fellowship of the ring derived D&D party.
>>722030010Just read Devilman. That's how it would've ended
>>722030010All of humanity was being gathered in that last city. It seems obvious to me that Griffith was going to sacrifice ALL of them to make that final leap to godhood. Guts needs to show up, put a stop to it, and finally have the catharsis of ripping Griffith's selfish dream to shreds.
>>722030010Cut off the God Hand's link to the Idea of Evil and Griffith becomes a little mummy man again.
>Berserk threadWhat, did a new game get announced? What even is there to talk about? Guts is just going to die and not hook up with the infinitely superior witch and Casca will lust after Griffith with the occasional thought about Guts before she starts having a melt down again.
>>722030010A cuck is someone who's girlfriend cheats on them, not someone who's girlfriend got raped.
how could guts even defeat griffith, realistically?
>>722030010Guts somehow finds a way to resurrect Donovan, and then Donovan rapes Griffith into submission, making the other evil guys realize that the berserk universe is way too gay for them so they simply leave in shame, saving the world and reuniting Guts with his first true love.
>>722030404He'd discover his weakness to slaps.
>>722030107Not really comparable because Amon is strong enough to take on Satan. Guts is like an insect next to Femto>>722030121>put a stopHow>>722030126Can he even do that though? Skull Knight has been facing the Godhand for Lord knows how many years and never managed to kill them>>722030230The issue is that she clearly enjoyed.
Is the musou game that bad? Haven't played it but it seemed serviceable
>>722030637>HowGriffith had become complacent in his strength. He'll overestimate himself and find the limits of his immortality or somethin I don't know
>>722030404>"Griffith... We must become better men. Fuck Casca for me, please...!"
>>722030010Guts admits his homoerotic feelings to him and in that brief moment of confusion penetrates him with his shaft.
>>722030637>The issue is that she clearly enjoyed.Yeah, she enjoyed it so much she repressed her memories to the point of becoming retarded.
>>722030637>Skull Knighti've been wondering about himi don't follow berserk too much so i don't know all the lore and fan theories and all of that stuff but skull knight is gaiseric, right?
>>722030796just because it was horribly traumatizing doesn't mean she didn't enjoy it on some levelmiura even confirmed it
>>722015581I wish they did more stories based around the other warring kingdoms beyond Midland. You had that one sidestory on one of the apostles that came from a hermit kingdom, One that was getting their shit kicked in by the Chuders on a generational basis. From what little you could glean during their failed alliance in the port city before it gets hit by the Kushites there is a lot more at play beyond Godhead faggotry. Something taking place in the Chuder Empire itself after the everything went to shit would be interesting. If only to see how the biggest faggots on the block were dealing with the incursions. After having just spent the last century fucking with everyone else.
>>722015581The Milenium Falcon art was the beggining of the end. After Guts gets his own party of little cute misfits it becomes absolutely retarded.
>>722030637>Can he even do that though?Probably. Traveling through the astral world into the abyss feels like a natural final arc.
>>722030637There's a bunch of different godhand members in the present compared to when the skull knight started. It seems pretty unlikely that they just retired and went home.
How many fucking chapters are left of this shit?
>>722030483Based>>722030764Even Baseder
>>722030404Guts, equipped with the Berserker armor and a new version of his dragonslayer made out of behelits finally discovers a magical potion which will highten his reflexes to godlike levels: monster energy. After slamming down enough monster energy to kill a horse, he goes beastmode (release the beast) and cuts down all of the apostles in 5 minutes. Then, Griffith, realizing he can't win, attempts to lure Guts to his side by offering him a spot in the godsend. Heh, yeah right...Guts proceeds to violently and graphically rape Griffith for 3 days and 3 nights. The scene is stretched to the length of an entire arc, "The Raped Hawk." It takes 10 years of irl time, equating to 3 volumes of nonstop Guts on Griffith action. Every inch of Griffiths perfect body, defiled by the big black swordsman. The final panel is Guts pulling his raw bloody cock out of Griffith. THAT'S how berserk should end.
>>722030668All musou games are bad
>>722030743Ehhh>>722030796>orgasmed so hard she blacked outDamn>>722031035I always assumed they got consumed by the Idea of Evil
>>722015581lost children is pure cinema you cant honestly believe anything else. Tower is "ok" as it starts really strong. Rape horse kino You are right about the side character shlock that the series becomes though. there are still many high points but they do get washed out with the lows. For example, that troll rape village arc is great. But then you remember that little kid killing multiple trolls with his gay little daggers while a group of men just get creamed and the whole thing becomes a wash
>>722031209*Godhand
>>722015581>this thread
>>722031238>consumed by the Idea of EvilThat would be a weird fate since apostles are shown to be absurdly afraid of that and willing to do just about anything to avoid it and live forever.
>>722030919Those are mutually exclusive, and if he did confirm it, Miura is a perv who doesn't understand basic psychology.
>>722031449>Those are mutually exclusivelol no
>>722029563Unironically the anime did it better as it has its own ending
>>722030483
>>722030010The Idea of Good has to exist. The same way good fairy pixel magic and big titted kind witches exist in the astral plane and it's not just rape monsters who want to kill everything.
>>722030404Guts discovers he was the true god hand all along and dragon kicks the posers into the milky way
>>722030010i wouldn't
>>722030404Swing big sword at him really hard and really angrily. Maybe skeleton man will help
>>722031549Fucking brainrot posters.
>>722030919Her psyche was torn to shreds, I think it's safe to say any level she "enjoyed it" on was superficial and fleeting. You'd probably enjoy a hand on your dick but I could probably think of circumstances horrific enough that basically nullifies that enjoyment.
>>722032047>I think it's safe to say any level she "enjoyed it" on was superficial and fleetingyeah surebut the point is that women can physically "enjoy" rape, and still be traumatized by it
>>722030010Jesus Christ comes back and offers salvation repentance. The godhand either fall to their knees and tremble in the face of the Almighty or immediately flee. Seriously unless Guts gets a heavenly blessing there is no victory. Griffith got a power up from essentially satan. Guts has to get his from Father God. It's the only way. He's too underpowered otherwise. The power of Love and stuff has to save the day here.
>>722031819The idea of evil exists because the world in Berserk is miserable. It's a psychic wound in reality caused by humanity's suffering. The idea of evil is God because only an evil god could explains why things are the way they are. The idea of good doesn't make sense as a counter force because the idea of evil isn't evil. It's the explanation for evil.
>>722015581True. But It really goes to shit after the conviction arc, when it becomes another generic fantasy setting with wizards and dragons. People love the berserk armor but if it and everything after was erased the series would be better off.
>>722032095Please read the rest of the post and realize why that's stupid.
>>722032205Okay, so how do you win against literal God?
>>722030637Femto is a bitch for relying on divine right to carry him towards power. Guts didn't cuck out to attain a fraction of that power.
>>722015581Uh Lost Children is the best arc though, it genuinely blows Golden Age out the water
>>722032425Through the power of Japanese friendship. Works every time.
>>722014167Despite the hype around Berserk's grimdark fantasy, I don't think the actual series itself was a massive financial success? There's lots of good games have that have noted Berserk as its inspiration, most famously FromSoftware
>>722032557>I don't think the actual series itself was a massive financial success?With the amount of good goys and their performative rituals I'd say they've gotten pretty close to breaking even.
>>722032205The Idea of Evil literally named itself. Wich means there is something he contrasted itself with. That's rhe logical explanation.Otherwise it would have chosen some other name, like the Idea of Humanity or whatever.
>>722030919>miura even confirmed itSAUCEEEEE
>>722014167perhaps the source material is the issue
>>722030840>but skull knight is gaiseric, right?Very very likely
>>722032670I don't remember exactly, someone found an old interview a few years ago where he mentioned it
>>722015581dont get me started on the fucking the boat section that shit was fucking retarded too
>>722031209Uuuhhhh... based?
>>722032646>Wich means there is something he contrasted itself withnot necessarilythe point is that it's a egregore of humanity's desire for a reason for suffering. People don't need a reason for happiness, when you're happy you aren't trying to figure out why life is good
>>722032670i touched my penis and can confirm you like it when you do it.
>>722032425The most hinted at explanation is that by killing so many apostles and being reviled by the church, Guts is channeling that same power of belief into becoming something capable of killing a god.>>722032646The idea of evil states it plainly. Humans prayed for an explanation to why evil existed so it became that for them.
>>722032205The Four Kings of the World might be a small aspect of that. A shallow reflection of the primordial natural order based on elemental consistency and structure rather than juiced up on the collective suffering of life itself. But considering their power has waned under the direction of the Holy See they're more of an enduring presence rather than an actual entity.
>>722032095That's not enjoyment, that's a just the body reacting to physical stimulus. If a fat rotting meth zombie man strokes your dick, you'll get erect eventually, but you won't enjoy it.
>>722030010We've already established that the Dragon Slayer gets stronger the more things it kills, so presumably Guts is going to kill enough things so he can take on the weakest member of the Godhand and work his way up to FemtoPersonally I'd also like to see Griffith become even more ambitious and pick fights with the Godhand himself, trying to become something even greater, which he might do once Guts kills the weakest one and Griffith both realises it can be done and that he might need the power boost to prevent getting CLANG'd himself
>>722032972>If a fat rotting meth zombie man strokes your dick, you'll get erect eventually, but you won't enjoy it.physical pleasure is on some level enjoymentthis feels like splitting hairs
>>722031209Here's a dramatic reenactment of my vision for the end of berserk
>>722015581i think it peaks at the Conviction Arc, but yeah it definitely lost a lot of its appeal to me once Guts gets his whole JRPG party going
>>722032982>We've already established that the Dragon Slayer gets stronger the more things it kills, so presumably Guts is going to kill enough things so he can take on the weakest member of the Godhand and work his way up to FemtoIt can already touch Griffith
>>722032972>he doesn't know
>>722032670>"Even if we didn't mention the God Hand, I felt that Casca would feel that way if the other person was Griffith."
>>722032982Does the Dragon Slayer get "stronger"? I thought its deal is that it's been bathed in so much blood and ethereal viscera that it can cut spooky demons because of the emotional resonance around the sword. Do we know that it's getting metaphysically "sharper"?
>>722033204Well I still want to see Guts kill the others too
>>722014167Dark Souls is literally an unofficial Berserk game
>>722033031My guy, when you girlfriend gets raped by a horde of demons while all her friends are crushed to death but her pussy felt sorta nice, she didn't cheat on you. How fragile is your masculinity to even think like that?
>>722014279So he can sell his bussy to nobles to fund his military campaign
>>722033226I do know the retarded delusions especially Japanese smut writers have.
>>722033358who said anything about cheating?
>>722029125I would still buy it if it had good combat.
>>722018269>Everything besides gameplay in a videogame isn't good>Still near masterpiece!Stfu the game is shit
>>722033465The guy who brought up cuckoldry.
>>722033313IIRC the way it's phrased suggests that it is, but I'd have to go check the page and then check if the translation is accurateIt has been many years at this point so I could be misremembering
>>722027078PS2 really was the last sovlfvl console.
So, uh... What's he doing with her now?
>>722030010If Rick 'the Big Dick' was able to step up then so can Guts.
>>722027507They're all mocapped. Berserk on the PS2 just took inspiration from the manga panels.
>>722033887Griffith let this happen, nigga wasn't going to obliterate a kid with demon powers in front of a bunch of nobles.
>>722034053It was a humiliation regardless. Obviously he could take revenge but his carefully crafted persona of being a savior for humanity would be decimated. Rick would win even harder if Griffith broke that to get back at him.
>>722034127That goes without saying since Griffith chimped out and sic'd his demon goons on him afterwards.
>>722034228It's been a while since I read it. Did Griffith send them? I know they would have gone after Rick even without a command. They would not let that slide.
Why didn't Casca just be a hecking strong boss, get several piercings and tattoos (to fight back against m*n) and suggest a throuple with her fembvll Griffith and misogynistic lover Nuts? The story would've been resolved so easily.
>>722034228It's pretty heavily implied that Locus sent him
>>722015581Lol Millennium Falcon Arc is clearly the peak
>>722034362>one offWew
>>722034497You mean the arc where the only highlight is Rickert slapping Griffith?
>>722034362Nuts, the BLACKED Swordsperson
>>722030107How did Devilman end?
>>722034728Everyone died
>>722034362>modern berserk >retards would unironically clap if this happenedI fucking despise the current world.
we have elden ring, that's close enough to a good berserk game we're ever gonna get
>>722028717It doesn't get more Berserk than Lost Children arc Berserk. That's why they'll never adapt it properly. It's simply too Berserk.
>>722015581This is not a bad thing though.Some characters can just struggle forever and never reach their goal, and that's fine.
>>722034817Cucked world for an equally cucked timeline. Can't have anything in this world without some little faggot trying to fuck it up with gay shit.
>>722032982The issue is that having a weapon that can kill gods isn't really useful as long as that weapon is still mundane in use.Sure Dragonslayer can kill Femto, but can Guts even reach him? Hit him?So far he is the even on the level to kill Zodd, and Griffith can annihilated Zodd without much trouble
>>722034728Lucifer fights against God and loses. Everyone dies and God restarts the universe specifically to spite him/her/yes in particular.
>>722015581eh, it's alright, it's still a grand adventure so at least it serves the purpose of keeping you entertained. where it was all going, well, obviously we'd have a guts vs griffth final bout ganondorf style or something similar but that just never came to fruition because he motherfucking died. must've been all the sush, raw fish is bad for you, kids.
>>722033538>retard with shit taste can't even readNo surprises here I guess.
>>722034834Still find it baffling that Berserk has managed to win any form of mainstream recognition while this fucking arc exists. Like yeah, next to Enis Lobby, the kids raping and killing each other in Berserk is my favorite arc.
>>722034624im pretty sure you are talking about the Fantasia Arc a lot of things happened in the Millennium Falcon Arc that impacted the world
Sad Guts :(
>>722034996A majority of Berserk's western popularity comes from Golden Age. I very much doubt many read past that, and those that did typically don't understand or know why Berserk is good.
>>722035135Why IS Berserk good?
>>722035135>want the temporary recognition that comes from having read Berserk but have to tiptoe around it without getting cancelledGrim
>>722035231I like everything about it. From the nightmarish scenarios like >>722034834 to the strangely vulnerable main character like >>722035120. We're never going to get anything like Berserk again.
>>722034996Like most "popular" media, the majority of its "fans" only know what they could stand reading on the Wiki or listening to some equally clueless jewtuber gloss it
>>722034958Maybe he can throw it real hardThat or other objects can be similarly affected, maybe the Berserk armor will give him enough protection to land a fatal blow
>>722029870Ryo wasn't a trap at the start.
>>722034834god that was so hot
Why didn't Casca just fart really really hard when Griffith was rapping her? Her toxic gas would melt Griffith's face and dick off and she could have used the force of her braps to rocket her out of the eclipse. Miura reeeaaally didn't think that one through.
>>722035231It's got the proper amount of edge to pair with its heart. It's easy to fall into the edgelord pitfall when you're willing to build a world like Miura did and tell stories in it.
Berserk is shit. Always has been.
>>722034967The restarted universe is Devilman Lady right?
>>722035471Vinland Saga tried both and utterly failed at both. It's a trainwreck.
Berserk was great before it got popular with normalfag weebs, now we must hate it by association.
I liked it. Having the kino ova tied in was also a bonus.
>>722035231Godly art. That's pretty much it. Everything else is boring or misery porn.
>>722035231It paints a deep suffering and brutality that it doesn't glorify. The artwork is beautiful because the man who worked on it was dedicated to the art of drawing. But a lot just see the cool images and think that it's supposed to be a cool revenge story when it's just a story about a tortured soul trying his best to wade through his stormy existence, learning painful lessons along the way. If you want the best example of a litmus test, it's the dialogue where Guts talks to the father in the carriage about his son going off to war. "I bet he was happy" or something like that. If you don't understand the hypocrisy of the scene, then you won't be able to understand Berserk. Unfortunately, it's not a series without faults. I can't fucking stand what Puck turns into, and the entourage becoming overly wholesome becomes sickeningly sweet, it almost seems like you forget what manga it is at times. Maybe that's the point, but it just felt like too much at times. Even the lighter moments in Golden Age never felt as cliche or moe. Schierke is the only exception to this, probably because she was the first "moe" character and never devolved into being annoying.
>>722035652That's because the author is a low-T faggot unlike the Chad Miura who chose to die rather than continue on in this clown town.
>>722034996There is nothing questionable in that arc when it came next to the slug lord, it's a shame Berserk ceased to be like that. It's like it aimed to say something while after it aimed at going through the motions.
>>722035676I keep going back and forth on getting this every time it goes on sale.I love Musou games, but I don't know if I can take an entire one with basically just a single character with a single moveset the entire time. Origins got away with it because there were over a dozen weapons and the movesets were all much more fleshed out than before.
>>722015581nah its bad, lost children is good though, the refugee camp and the second eclipse is alright but definitely worse after that it takes a nose dive
>>722035652>Cuckland Saga"If you kill your enemies, they win." Sun Tzu - Art of War
A reminder that fucking CLAYMORE got an ending.
>>722014167Dunno how they could do it and still have it be faithful. Maybe they could run post Golden Age, expand Black Swordsman, maybe make it some kind of slow action game. Running it through Golden Age would necessitate army style gameplay which basically means a musou
>>722035957He went from a relentless killer to a relentless pacifist.
>>722035670True
>>722035684Miura took too long to go anywhere, a human can only take so much darkness in their creations. He kept it going long after his heart wasn't in that place anymore, and it probably heavily affected his mental health, thus the escapes to saccharine loli games.
>>722035937>the refugee camp and the second eclipse is alright but definitely worse after that it takes a nose diveCan't imagine a resident biblethumper was happy about that depiction. Still makes you wonder if all their antics were going anywhere else beyond fueling the Godhand and their ability to scale up the operations beyond bargaining rituals.
>>722035880there's multiple characters you can play as throughout the story but guts definitely the one you use most.
>>722036062>My arteries are gonna fucking explode once I'm 54 anyway, might as well semi-retire now
>>722036273>Not my problem
>>722036273I'm guessing the dude had a congenital heart condition. He certainly tried to stay fit and lifted weights according to interviews and friends.
>>722036385Staying fit and lifting. The two biggest killers. When will people learn?
I liked the Dreamcast game, had some great music, boss fights, and was written by Miura.
>>722018813Not all heroes wear capes
>>722036496I thought the two biggest killers were Politics and WEGdeving
>>722015581It becomes irredeemable trash when he introduces Bart Simpson.
>>722035670Be less emotional in your decision making.
>>722014167Farnese Guts Casca is an infinitely better throuple than Griffith Guts CascaAnd to be clear: it should be Guts and Casca sharing Farnese and not Farnese and Casca sharing Guts.
>>722035231outside of everything else that was mentioned, it's a surprisingly solid story. I mean you could take this story's base components and adapt it to virtually any other setting or circumstance and it would still have the same gravitas, the same impact to the viewer. imagine a story of a thug on the streets of new york or compton, who pretty much does crime for hire, but is then recruited by a scrappy up-and-coming greaser with dreams of being a mob boss or something like that. they hit it off, and suddenly they go from young underdogs to kingpins of the underworld, until the scrappy up-and-comer makes a mistake that costs him his freedom, and he develops a bitter hatred for everyone, including the people who risked themselves to save him, our protagonist thug included, and when shit hits the fan, the ambitious one sells everyone down the river for his own personal gain. the protagonist sees everyone, all his friends, slaughtered like pigs, and he survives by the skin of his teeth.it's a great story, at least the golden age arc.
>>722036704I hate that they redeemed farnese. She should have stayed a witch hunter to got off to burning people alive. Now she's just cascas baby sitter.
>>722034834After reading this all the way through the final Berserk chapters, I think it's safe to say Miura lost his edge. And it's really too bad. Maybe if he chopped out a lot of the chapters that really go nowhere and focused on the main plotline, he could have wrapped Berserk up in his lifetime and moved onto whimsical witch girls or something as a separate project.
>>722035231suffering fetish.
>>722037293iirc he was planning a mecha story right before he died
>>722035231>I'm so much more edgy than the other boys, teehee! They're, like, chopping each other up and there's RAPE!>You wouldn't get it, eheheh...!
>>722037451>t. didn't read
>>722036704>it should be Guts and Casca sharing Farnese and not Farnese and Casca sharing Guts.Gay
Man, Berserk got THREE games while some awesome series never even got one
>>722037451I am very glad I don't live behind 20 layers of irony. It sounds very tiresome.
>>722014167Me in the middle lol
>>722037763It's people like those who want to be taken seriously and have cringey bios in their social media as well. I have no sympathy for them.
>>722036613This is why no manga should go on for more than 30 years. They lose their fucking minds.
>>722027078This looks more satisfying to use than any greastword in every Dark Souls game.
>>722037763If only you knew
>>722037874One Piece still has 4 years to wrap up then.>>722037887It really captures the wild bestiality of Guts' fighting style. He's just throwing himself alongside the sword.
>>722030121Void was going to, you meanGriffith doesn't even know what he's doing, he's still possessed by his feelings and ambitions despite his insistence otherwise
>>722037887Dark Souls could do with a level of tweaking to the combat beyond rollspam and enemy attacks phasing through walls while your hits bounce off. A little gore and Havok physics could go a long way with selling the power of melee.
>>722015581Lost Children and Tower of Conviction are awesome and on par with Golden Age. Berserk starts going downhill when Witchloli appears and turns to complete shit once Fantasia arc starts.
>>722015581I always consider the arc like stages in guts life, and they kind of are. It adds depth to guts character when you see it that way.
>>722038338Considering what is currently sitting under the ruins of that city Void isn't exactly a stranger to genocide at scale.
>>722038469Tower of Conviction gets rushed towards a conclusion too fast near the end. I blink and he's already fighting the final boss, in his second form.
>>722028721> My sweet psychotic little inquisitor.She completely loses that characterization after Conviction. She's just Casca's tard wrangler after that.
>>722038557Has SK completely been forgotten? I really thought he and Void would have their conflict brought to the forefront to directly mirror Guts and Griffith
>>722014167What is Dragon's Dogma
>>722039095Nothing like BerserkNo, Berserk is not a costume.
>>722038758>inb4 mantleSK doesn't have anything keeping him around outside of braining Void so maybe the two fuse. Leaving you with the Dragonslayer covered in screaming apostles and trading out his dog tags for something worse.
>>722036613Isidro is good in Conviction where he's basically a mirror of young Guts only he doesn't have a total piece of shit like Gambino raising him. He turns shit when the rest of the manga turns shit and becomes le wacky comedy duo with Puck. A good measure of how shit the manga became is how Puck hardly, if ever, is actually drawn outside of his le goofy chestnut form after a point.
>>722038318Honestly, One Piece should end soon. 4 years at its current pace should cover plenty of ground.
>>722039263Puck is absolutely a litmus test for the manga's quality.
>>722039412It will be the end of an era. But we've put it off for far too long.
>>722039412>One Piece should end soonOda might need to watch his back after the boomers in Nepal got airlifted out only to be greeted by a sea of Stawhat flags.
>>722014167why didn't Griffith just keep Guts in the band by using his masculine wiles?
>>722039220>godlike entity offers people the chance to get what they most desire, in exchange for a beloved person>if you don't take the offer you fucking dieI mean... it's -a little- like Berserk...
>>722016417She's been raped enough don't you think?
>>722039702He couldn't. Guts was set on leaving, and Griffith couldn't stop him by force, because he had become too much of a fuccboi.
>>722025938He did say this I remember it clearly.
>>722037138The original Berserk storyline is lone hobo murderman fights an abominable monster that was once human and barely survives and goes to do it again like a madman.
I unironically cried when Miura died. I always loved Berserk and I wasn't hyped for anything else to come. Guts inspired me because he kept struggling through a lot and still going. Knowing that his story would never end because Miura got a gruesome end was painful. I was really immersed in Berserk and I believed that Miura would finally return and be adapted with digital art, also having a decent anime and everything.Perhaps the only author that I truly lamented losing. Toriyama dying was really hard too but I don't recall tearing for him.
>>722039947You're telling me if Griffith sucked your cock, you'd leave?
>>722040559I can't cry because I have something wrong with me but his death hit me pretty hard. A guy who devoted basically his entire life to telling one story and didn't get to finish it. I'm glad his crew seems to be devoted to wrapping it up, but however it ends will always have an asterisk next to it since the man himself didn't make it to the finish line.David Lynch was similarly upsetting, he was still trying to get new projects going despite his poor health but ended up getting smoked to death after rounds of "no, this isn't normie-friendly enough" from studios.
>>722041198Are they? I kinda forgot where they left. The hype died hard. I kept feeling depressed. Also I didn't see anyone talking about it again.
>>722036704Nobody gives a shit about gay throuples.
>>722015581Conviction > Golden Age > Black SwordsmanSorry lil bro, it's the truth.
>>722018489>It turns from a medieval dark fantasy to a generic shonensame thing happen to goblin slayer and to an extend demon slayer. a story that can't keep its premise, a tale as old as time
>>722041868i mean, Goblin Slayer kinda has the excuse that it's not *actually* dark fantasy, it's a Dungeon and Dragons game being played by godlike entities, and we're following a minmaxed multiclass gimmick character that is only actually relevant to the setting because he saved the chosen one from goblins when she was a kid.
>>722015581I like how it gets more and more fantastical as it goes on. It's baked into the plot. Every time Griffith does any major shit, the world gets a little crazier.
>>722041868>demon slayerDemon Slayer is battle shonen slop through and through, and I say that as someone who likes it. There is no "fantasy" to it, it's just more battle shonen schlock with the barest minimums of a background and setting somehow unique to itself.
>>722041198That's exactly whats been happening to Chiaki for the last 15 years.
>>722042047my point still stands: it started out dark and it slowly turn shonen because the author is a hack.
>>722028534Its really not fair. I dont want to play another Homo Art Online game I want to motorboat girls in GANTZ suits and bathe in gore.
>>722042179>>722041868Demon Slayer isn't even a fantasy setting.it all happens in bumfuck nowhere 1920s Japan, the surviving male cast probably fought in a completely normal version of WW2.
>>722042179it didn't started that way, it was just a barely trained kid with his demon sister for like 2 or 3 arcs going on episodic adventures that slowly unravel the plot, then suddenly out of fucking nowhere it turns out he's the chosen one and he gets 2 comic relief characters at the same time and a whole "school" of other demon slayers.I'm still mad.
>>722014167I'll never get why people like this cuck shit.
>>722028721I like her as a wizard but I loved her as an insecure pampered pyscho. (please forgive nipple Janny-san)
>>722042127lol people dont realize how great Millennium Falcon arc is from war guts getting his new armor skull knight and griffith merging the 2 worlds Fantasia arc was also building into something great before his passing people just wanted that darker berserk
>>722032972>If a fat rotting meth zombie man strokes your dick, you'll get erect eventually, but you won't enjoy it.speak for yourself
>>722042586Mr Advertiser isn't going to like this
>>722042179>>722042179To elaborate on this further, granted it's been about 5 or so years since I read it, there's not even so much as a "unique power system" that hints at depth or can be used for potential worldbuilding like chakra in Naruto or Ki in Dragon Ball. They just breathe good, and "try REALLY HARD to kill the demon, guys!" for every fight. That's it. Like what the fuck is that shit? Definitely not the worst, because it does have some charm to it, but it ain't the best. And anyone who says it's above a 7 is delusional, a woman, or some kid. Definitely better than Naruto.
>>722041868I wouldn't classify gobslayer under that since the story is about him overcoming his trauma and autism. this naturally means that the series would become less edgy over time
>>722037138I watched the Gungrave anime before I ever read Berserk, and when I actually read Berserk, I was was like "Wait a minute..."
>>722041868Lol a lot of people did a whole speed run of berserk for you to even say something like that
>>722042695I'll take the ban if I can lick the pink off her nipples in the afterlife.
>>722042729Demon Slayer's "elemental breathing" got really fucking lame when the author confirmed that all the elemental effects are just artsy shit and nothing actually happens when they use the Breaths...despite the fact one of the main characters got hit by a fucking bolt of lightning and is now able to run at lightspeed.
>>722015581Berserk is already a finished story, insofar as the Golden Age Arc is a perfect parable. Guts arises from nothing, goes through actual hell and loses everything, but preserves through sheer will and proves himself to achieve the ultimate in human agency in doing so, all in the name of avenging his true love. Everything after that doesn't matter, and you're a moron if the only thing you were waiting for is "when will Guts and Griffith have their le ultimate confrontation" like this was Dragonball
>>722036704Farnese and Guts is my headcanon ship. Casca's nice and all, but Guts has been to literal Hell and back for her multiple times, and it's done nothing but bring him misery.
>>722043071Guts is man enough for many women snd leave some to spare for his sword.
>>722028721Farnese is a billion times better than Casca and I will fight anyone who says otherwise
>>722039412You really think they'll be able to fit in everything they've still got to do in 4 years? That seems like a tall order.
>oh my science I love Farnese so Guts deserves to be with her, OK???Bros, Casca is the best choice for Guts. And no, I will not elaborate.
>>722040559I didn't cry, but Miura and Toriyama are to celebrity deaths that hit me kind of hard, same with Norm Macdonald, George Romero, and George Lowe (Space Ghost). John Williams is going to make me sad too.
>>722042664All people seem to remember is edgy boy Guts from the Black Swordsman and Lost Children arcs, but I love how Godo basically tells him to knock that shit off as he's reforging the Dragon Slayer. As he hands Guts the shiny and sharp blade, Guts also has a newly stoic and focused demeanor. I think it's a very cool moment. I like how Guts has a character evolution with each new arc too. Like when Schierke comes around, he takes on an almost big brother role for her. Maybe he could have been that for Jill from Lost Children if he had been able to be that kind of man back then.
>>722014167Berserk is like Cowboy Bebop, its way bigger in america than japan. Ive lived here for a year and have never seen Berserk merch.
>>722028717>>722034834Lost Children is my favorite chapter, but Black Swordsman is my favorite arc. Golden Age was definitely necessary, but Guts is so much better off when it's just him and a side character rather than a whole party that accompanies him. If Miura just his characters complete their arcs with Farnese staying with her family, Isidro going away to stand on his own and become a warrior, and Schierke going off with Sonia, I would have liked their characters a lot more, but now I just find them annoying.
>>722039263>>722036613it took me an embarrasing amount of time to realize Isidro is meant to look like a young Gambino.
>>722028721>that filename
>>722027078>the stab into double slash combo
>>722014167Are the recent chapters worth reading? Where are we at right now? Last I remember, Guts got back on a boat again and was in a Shinji depression.
>>722045257>tfw no fucked up gook gf
>>722045373last I heard we are on a hiatus because the author die and he's protégé took over but he is organizing his notes.
>>722045373They're not great. The story briefly went back on track with the reintroduction of Rickert and the artwork improved, but some of the chapters now feel like stalling and when I say the artwork improved, it did for everyone except Guts who now has the proportions of an SnK Titan.
>>722040559him and toriyama are the only times I've been actually sad at a celebrity dying, with toriyama it wasn't as bad because he had made it in every way imaginable and didn't give a fuck about dragon ball or had anything unfinished but miura was rough
>>722014167>>722015581Berserk is just endless misery torture porn at this pointGuts will forever be a weak cuck that can't bridge the gap in strength between him and Griffith
>>722042586>perfect tits>blonde hairy pussySo Guts is officially gay after he didn't dick her, right? It's a thing we all agree on?
>>722046650Always was.
>>722037874No piece of media should really go on for more than a decade or its intended airtime. If it were up to me i would make it a worldwide, legal mandate. Imagine how much crap we could avoid if Aliens, LOTR, Star Wars, Halo, everything just ended after its story was concluded.
>>722014167>carried by rapethe absolute peak of jap literature
>>722046650They don't call him the BLACKED Swordsman for nothin', fella
>>722018886>>722028389>homoerotic cuck shitah yes, the quintessential berserk experience.
>>722047745dont they call him the black swordsman though not blacked are you esl
>>722046650well he was raped by a faggot when he was a kid
>>722047950A niggerfaggot even
>>722046650Literal first panels are him fucking an Apostle, then killing her.
>>722048029>fucks a woman and hates it so much he never does it againI know it was just a Conan reference and an early installment weirdnesses but it really serves to make him look gay
>>722039910She can handle a few more desu
>>722048029which is totally out of character because it was made before he had a story or characters planned out but kept it in anyways.
>>722048235Not really, when he gets semi-possessed after holy tower arc he nearly rapes Casca, the Hellhound/Inner darkness wants him to rape and kill her, he bites her tit hard enough to drawn blood IIRC. That could be the panel where she's decapitated though.
>>722028534There are plenty of good anime based games, it all just banks on popularity. Bandai doesn't want to waste the money if they know it won't be successful.
>>722048235Guts was avenging his good friend Corkus (who taught him everything he knows) by getting some demon poon in his honor before blowing her head off.
>>722048029Yeah and Miura said he felt it was out of character later on.
I know nothing of Berserk but for some reason all the normies love it. Why is that?
>>722049924Rape
>>722049924safe edgy
why is double teaming suck a common foid fantasy?
>>722014167Because Berserk was shit
>>722050506the most common women fetish is getting gangbang.
>>722049924Initially it gained enough acclaim for notice because it was a well illustrated, high action, elaborate yet dark fantasy with poignant character drama in-between all that, and a portion of that was then adapted into a dub anime quite a few people had and can watch within a day or so if they can't be bothered to read, however over time it's just because of how cool surface elements look kind of like how a lot of people like the "gritty vibe" of Batman enough to buy merch but have no idea what it's about beyond the stuff floating in the cultural zeitgeist.
>>722015581I agree but I still liked seeing guts kill monsters. It was never gonna have a satisfying ending no matter what.
>>722049924Great art. Like stupendous talentRape and goreInteresting lore, world building and themesI personally think it's good, but nothing close as the praise it gets.Still, if you don't mind some grimdarkness it's a good read.
>>722044085Which is funny because at the conclusion of the very first arc Guts starts crying >>722015581Golden Age works fine because it's a backstory. What Berserk is missing is a conclusion. Because it has been going on forever (with little updates) it gets some hype (compare that to Silk Song which got its hype build up by being delayed forever)>and a constant stream of new characters, and the magic powers and berserker armor essentially turn it into a superhero story. Because fantasy gets introduced into reality. If all that bad stuff exists, why shouldn't the magic stuff exist?The berserker armor is a powerup that comes with cost and the whole thing is just Griffith/Guts mirroring Void/Skull Knight.It's still one of the better manga stories
I think the height of irony is getting a Brand tattoo. Like yeah guys, you're definitely epic for getting a tattoo that's used in lore as a mark of those who escaped hell after being traumatized by sheer luck. You're so cool! You definitely LOVE Berserk! Shit makes me sick and roll my eyes every time. Why don't you just get a tattoo of Griffith raping Casca while you're at it?
>>722031915How badly did this game impact the potential for Berserk ever being finished?
>>722052216Miura couldn't help himself. He sees loli idols, he leaves Guts on a boat for years.
>>722015581After years of coping i have come to accept that everything after Schierke appears in the story is just the story slowly dying
Berserk doesn't lend itself to a game.
>>722030010>How would you solve the plotThink about what changes if Guts did not exist, literally everything plot wise still happens as we've read it. Griffith stills ascends, the magic trees get hunted and burned, Fantasia is caused, Falconia would exist, the fairy island still gets nuked, and so forth. >Griffith wouldn't become Godhand without GutsThe literal metaphysics of the universe in Berserk was and continues to ensure Griffith's successes, however what does change without Guts is the various characters he's encountered, and crucially Casca's rape. The dominos are all in place for Griffith's defeat simply because of Guts continued existence and Griffith's choice (and in my belief one of very few moments of complete free will) to rape Casca. The rape caused Gut's quest, moonlight boy, Casca's insanity. The prior insanity was witnessed by Luca and co in Conviction who we know are in Falconia, and who due to Rickert know something is fucked with Griffith. I'm going to stop there because I should be working, but the point is the rape was Griffith's biggest mistake and the narrative dominos stemming from that moment directly are in place to fuck him over.
>>722015581Idk what any who dislikes post-eclipse Berserk is talking about, Berserk was fantastic right up until Muira's death. Post-Muira remains to be seen the further we get away from his passing but I have no complaints so far.
>>722024257kek
>>722053031You could easily make a game out of Conviction Arc alone.
>>722053038I thought banging the princess was Griffith's worst mistake
>>722041868Goblin Slayer never felt like a dark fantasy to me. The Goblin rape is the only "dark" thing about it and it's shock value tier at most. He also gets his whole party pretty quickly
>>722028534a made in abyss mmo would be incredible
>>722041783I agree with this.
>>722014167we got a whole franchise, its call dark souls.
>>722028534>we never got a good school simulation Marimite game
>>722028534I will never understand what people see in GANTZ
>>722053031Millennium Falcon Arc easily can be a game
>>722028943The issue isn't arena fighter slop, it's that no one wants to put actual effort into making a high budget anime game. Whenever it isn't an arena fighter, it's low budget trash like One Piece Odyssey, those Fairy Tail games by Gust and that shitty Edens Zero game people tried pretending was good for two days just because of coom value. They just want to spend as little money as possible and hope tons of people buy it because of the brand
>>722030404>>722030010Lol Who the fuck knows only clue we can take from is the chapter that Miura got removed because it allegedly told to much of the story the idea of evil chapter I believe was placed if im remember properly around the eclipse
>>722054261I hold the interpretation that Griffith doesn't have free will in Berserk, perhaps less than everyone else in the cast, but not strict in the sense like he has never made a decision but more due to metaphysics certain events involving him *will* happen, such as the eclipse, but the path to these points are flexible. All his choices, actions, and consequences with a major exception, are either explicitly or retroactively are part of his pathway to eclipse. Since banging the princess was before the eclipse, and while it was his choice to do so, because it became a crucial aspect to his path it doesn't fit within the view of free will as it led to the fixed universal point of the eclipse. The major exception in Griffith's free will, is Guts, but that's because Guts exists outside the metaphysical rules, or at least has a strange relationship with them even as noted Skull Knight, but again Guts can be counted somewhat as part of his path to the eclipse, however raping Casca was a moment of complete free will and choice made by Griffith. It wasn't retroactively "justified" by any future scheme of the Godhand/Griffith, it hasn't been part of the plan at all, him doing it at all explicitly made him weaker due to the moonlight boy, raping Casca has genuinely doomed Griffith conjugation with Guts continued existence. tl;dr I firmly believe Griffith made a handful of choice of complete free will in his life, raping Casca being one and also his fatal mistake.
>>722055139Doesn't it end with Griffith asking evilgod for wings and becoming Femto during the Eclipse?
>>722055139It was also too obvious that he stole 99% of that shit and the godhand from Hellraiser
>>722055139>from is the chapter that Miura got removed because it allegedly told to much of the storyso that pretty much proves he really is just stretching it out and didn't want to resolve it whatsoever
>when will we get a good x game?The source material has to be good to get good games.
>>722016417Didn't Griffith kidnap her again? How many times has he had sex with her since?
Berserk went to shit exactly when Puck stopped being drawn normally and instead in his cartoonish onion form
>>722055579this. i miss the fairy shota
>>722014167>his bf rapes his gfGuts should have given Griffith a good dicking to calm his jealousy
>>722055234lol i havent read the chapter in a min so i cant confirm that to you>>722055294sounds like he wanted to take his time telling the story and building berserk out but we will truly never know what he wanted to do with this plotline
>>722014167Berserk goes to shit after wyald arcBerserk needs to be more gory, more edgy and more rapey
>>722025595Has any made a jrpg of berserk? Even if the combat is basic, with some good art that could be kino
>>722055525Enough to get her pregnant again.
>>722055857>t. doesn't like berserk
>>722055234Just looked at the chapter again you are right this is the chapter he asked for wingsChapter 83 if anyone cares you can kinda see why miura got it removed
>>722032752So you are just lying.
>>722019960Guts imagined Griffith which scared him so much that he puked and fainted.
>>722015581it only feels like that for you because you kept up with berserk for years waiting for each chapterif you read everything there is now, it does not feel that way
>>722028534outside of FMA none of these are very big in japan. Its the same reason gantz and berserk only get shit anime, theyre to niche and gorey to be given big budgets
>>722034996That part where the bug bodies turn back into dead kids after Guts kills then is fucking brutal
I'm glad people are finally able to accept Berserk was overrated. Can't wait until we can say the same about Jojo. People already turning on One Piece too, thank god.
>>722057025>People already turning on One PieceAren't people using the Strawhat flag for a various unrelated to OP protests nowadays?
>>722057190Casual browns don't follow One Piece, anon. The people who actually consume One Piece are sick of Gear 5
>>722015581The smarter approach would have been aping Conan and just making a bunch of short stories about Guts and his exploits instead of trying to string the whole thing out into a 30 year long narrative.
>>722057341>France is brownLuffy is brown btw
>>722057025>wojakposterOh the ironing
>>722057542That's honestly what I expected to happen
>>722057542The Dreamcast game is like that. Just a cool little self-contained story that does what it sets out to do and doesn't overstay its welcome.
>>722036537the weight of the sword should've chopped him in halfshit jap fantasypeaklmao
>>722037742Closest is Warframe sort of. Wish they would have stayed with body horror science fiction stuff and not what it is now.
Miura dropped one of the best panels in the whole manga shortly before he fucking died.Miura's sheer talent for art is not something we are going to see for a whileSpoilered if for some god forsaken reason you haven't caught up to it
>>722015581I feel like this garbage site (or this board specifically) is nothing but baiting for (You)s and contarianism nowadays.Berserk does not hit a wall, the manga is great all throughout, though it obviously has its low points like the boat arc, lolis going kyaaa or the focus on isidrojust because something changes it's course, does not mean it's badyou are either retarded or baiting>but all these replies agreeing to methey're all retarded yes
>>722060091so much questions but sadly we wont get the answers to them why is void the only one from here that is in the guts era was skull knight able to kill the rest
>>722045373It's still solid but on another hiatus because it's Berserk. Think there's always going to be that "what if?" thought regarding just what Miura had planned to do, ref notes or not, but that'll just be a mystery
>>722043702Legit forgot Space Ghost died. That feels bad man
Why don't the japanese make more self insert anime games like dbxenoverse or aot2?I just want to go on cool golden age adventures with the band of the hawk
>>722053140This honestly. It's still a really wonderful series and I think what's neat is so many people like so many different arcs, there's no universal "it's shit" arc, you'll find a fan of every point in the story because it can connect that well with a reader. Pic related was one of my favorite panels because I had been waiting almost half my life for Casca to truly come back and for one brief moment, she did in full
>>722057025Smelly, dumb, wojack scum
>>722060862>there's no universal "it's shit" arci don't know most people don't like the boat arc but i personally wouldn't say its shit
>>722060862>universal "it's shit" arc,boat arc comes closest, but I think it's mostly because of how fucking long we were on that boat
>>722025481ok floor mouth
>>722015581Yeah berserk is overrated as fuck
>Kentaro Miura dies>Read up his post-chapter interviews and notes>Realize he worked like a slave and played Idolmaster games on the side in the short spare times he had>Akira Toriyama dies>Familyman, his works fought over by various agencies>Both brands will remain zombies to farm moneyI just stopped drawing altogether from those two ends of the spectrum for manga authors that I followed.Miura probably didn't tell anyone the true ending, his team just wants to keep it up to pay their mortgages.
>>722015581>>722014167Golden Age is overrated.Berserk peaked with the Black Swordsman arc.Yes, it's the first one.
Why does Gatts care about a 2nd hand retard who cuckec him when he has prime virgin cunny literally gagging for him to take charge?
>>722062734
>>722061771more like because you got zero talent
>>722061552It really wasnt that bad reading it after it was over. The waiting was the worst part, I'm sure.
>>722062734If I could have it all...
>>722061552Boat arc was kino if you read it all in 1 go
>>722029870nahthe only similarity is demons
>>722037293the japanese government broke his edge for him
>>722024257Fucking Griffith is unironically less gay than fucking Casca. If he put on a dress no one would think it looks weird.
>>722061771Miura had continuously stated that he never had an ending planned for Berserk and all the notes he had left behind were just scenarios for future arcs or something like that.
>thread of the most retarded dogshit opinions>remember where i amphew. thank god you degenerates will never amount to anything
>>722062823Why are you a nigger AND a faggot?
>>722028534>Full Metal Alchemist game made by LarianJust imagine all the emental shenenigans! IMAGINE!!!
>>722063515>Heh, maybe if I project hard enough, people won't think I'm not an insecure, sub IQ faggot. That's you.
demon's soulsdark souls 1-3elden ring
>>722034362"People" would applaud if an original story like this happened.
>>722014167Because Berserk isn't good
>>722064158nothing popular is good, that goes for anything but put a finger in your ass and see if that changes your opinion any, pinhead.
>>722035630nowatch crybaby and wait till the last episode's ending credits finishthere's your answerand yes it's worth it to watch it the whole way through just for that last bit
>>722062734Because Berserk is a metaphor for being gay
>>722015581Truke: Berserk was never good.
...the boat hiatus really happened, huh?
>>722064351he was gay, guts?
>>722014167Ahe only cummed when Griffith fucked her btw
>>722035471>>722035652>>722035774>>722035957>>722036042FMDM did it right because the writer is such an autist for swordsmanship and politics he couldn't run away from the testosterone
Ubel Blatt does it better than berserk to be honest. It was far more enjoyable kino
>>722065216Isn't that the game where the protagonist just kills everything or some shit
>>722062770
>>722065239You just want to fuck the twink protag.
>>722065903kind of? he's like if you sent an evil samurai with ridiculously good morals to WW2, the guy is mental
>>722053140you're a fanboy with no critical thought, that's all.
>>722053140You can't even be bothered to get the mangaka's name right.
>>722060330> anyone who doesnt agree with me is a retardKys mouth breather, crying about childrens comic
>>722060330>agreeing to me>to
>>722026740>fuck a slutty fairy>barely even pressing his cock onto her ass
>>722067467No...
>>722014167Why didn't we get proper Casca pissing herself, with desperation, before she turned into a mindbroken husk so it was meaningless and unsatisfying?It should have been mid-battle
>>722014167Overrated ass manga.Great art but that's about it. Guts should've died like 50 timers by now.
>>722061771Little bro just found out what capitalism is.99% of the things you enjoy weren't made by people who wanted to make it.That's why everything fucking sucks now.
>>722065239>Ubel BlattAnon I think you're gay.
Will Berserk end soon?
>>722015581I thought before the eclipse was just a prologue?
>>722015581>>722018489Don't forget the loli and the annoying shota to go along with that faggot mascot..The band of the hawk gets dropped and dozens of well trained soldiers died to one or two demons pre eclipse.. but these chucklefucks keep surviving unknown horrors. It seriously became unrealistic.
>>722022272absolutely based take
>>722027078>that chopwtf i thought revengeance did it first
>>722069075Berserk ended more than 25 years ago. The other releases are the endless spinoffs to milk goysoomers. It will continue as long as they buy, it's like asking when General Hospital will end.
>>722037293he introduced the god hand, made griffith omnipotent, the whole worldbuilding of berserk prevented miura from making a quick and meaningful story on how guts can gut the god hand.
>>722015581Berserk starts after the Eclipse.
>>722061552there's no boat arc. there are two story parts of Guts being on the boat, the Sea God fight and Griffith fighting the Kushan, with the latter being much longer. The "boat arc" itself was not even that long, people just say that because it's during this period that chapter releases became infrequent so it felt longer that it is.
>>722055179>but that's because Guts exists outside the metaphysical rulesnah he definitely doesn't because he has a behelit, Guts can't die until he reaches the destined moment where he either chooses to use it or doesn't.
>>722015581Yes, thank you, captain obvious, I needed someone to tell me that.
>>722015581Thats too generous. It didnt even really go that far. Berserk is nothing but an origin story. We have Guts. Guts is a badass. Okay, dial it back to the Golden Age arc (the greatest anime origin story of all time). Then have some cobbled mishmash gobbledegook that proceeds to go FUCKING NOWHERE until the writer fucking dies. That's it. That's the legacy of Berserk. And who knows if the guy ever penned down where he planned on having this story going. It probably doesnt matter. Nobody could carry it out. He couldn't even do it himself. All that fucker could do was write the golden age arc, and ink a page.
Berserk was a young mans story.Miura started drafting it when he was 22.. so yeah it's really sad to see how dull the edge gets over the years.Suddenly you realize this guys a pedophile too when he gives gratuitous fan service to the loli witch and it just becomes an incredibly sad reading of a man stuck making this one fucking edge lord comic that he cant ever finish yet its his only source of survival and it meanders, goes nowhere and slowly reveals his fetishes with horse rape and other pointless weird shit and yet his writing somehow gets worse. It's fucking weird.
>>722026380>starts violently fingering Casca in front of Guts
>>722060091All I see are more filler chapters thanks to the underlings.
>>722014167but griffith is a fag that sold his ass to kings for money
>>722072527it's sad when you realize that nothing Guts ever did past the eclipse was relevant in the grand scheme of things yet, remove him from the story and the plot with Griffith and Fantasia would be the exact same, in fact Gut's parts have been feeling like a side story for a good while now, retard casca as Guts' sole motivation has been getting old 15 years ago
>>722073853Griffith was ambitious sexual and actually went full despair when he noticed how pitiful he was in the eyes of Caska, the woman that admired him the most. If Guts, Griffith and Caska had just become a triad, they would have succeeded.
>>722015581Glad to see I’m not alone in this. Berserk starts off wonderfully but slowly becomes a generic shonen manga.
>>722029870Ryo is supposed to look like a cool fag. not a gay fag like in crybaby
>>722056016Gross bro, that's his mom
>>722075898wat
>>722029012a bunch of them blocked his attacks
>>722037887Souls greatswords dont swing that fast, for one
>>722078301which is part of why those games feel weird. The animations should improve as you grow more powerful. Every single game boils down to "Wow! you're literally more powerful than every single person left because you consumed RESOURCE! (souls, runes, blood echoes) yet you still break your limbs swinging a sword with 80 / 99 strength! Haha ! The player should be a superhuman by the end
>>722078598Why are you trying to force souls games into a genre they're not?Why not play games that are already like that?Instead of playing hyper-mainstream games exclusively, and demanding they change, maybe play something else you big fucking normalfag
>>722078717lol i am a literal day 1 souls player and its always been the biggest immersion breaker since demon souls to me but keep coping. DeS was the OG "berserk but a game".
>>722079218>i am a literal day 1 souls playerNothing I said implied you weren't. Learn to read.
>>722015581Blacksword man arc is the best thoughbeit, after children of the lost arc thats when it hits the wall
>>722015581You ain't kiddin'.
I'll never forgot you
>>722080789*forgetfuck hard to type with misty eyes
>>722014167Elden Ring
Do we know if Miura had an outline for how the shit ends or are the stewards just making it up as they go?
>>722030919You're fucking retarded.Her vagina enjoyed because her vagina operates outsides her control.Spoiler alert: You can get raped and your body will still send the good stimuli to your brain. There's absolutely nothing you can do about it.That's why Casca became retarded, it's a very common issue during actual real rapes and the thing that causes the most trauma.
>>722035684>the entourage becoming overly wholesome becomes sickeningly sweet, it almost seems like you forget what manga it is at timesSet up for the real gut punch.The Band getting slaughtered had power because they were all people you knew and had attachment with.Guts getting a new 'band' together means he has something to lose, and gives emotional weight to his journey. You can see the writing on the wall with how as soon as Casca REALLY came back, she was stolen right out from under him.
Griffith won
>>722082793For now, unless he becomes the new head of the God Hand, he can still get got.
>>722074930Guts would never accept that doe.
>>722083082And look where that got him. Guts would have been much better off being just a cuck (and possibly trap fucker). He ended up cucked anyway.
Since the thread is ending...Was it Miura all along?
>>722082253He told his friend what was the outline of the entire story and they are allegedly following that.
>>722083372Some things you just live with. Griffith would have had a schizo breakdown sooner or later at the smallest slight anyways.
>>722083372>He ended up cucked anyway.Learn the meanings of words and stop projecting your fetish on everything, freak.
>>722083629Read the threadCasca enjoyed it = cucking
>>722083372If it's a ménage à trois situation I'd argue Casca would be cucking Griffith. I don't think he'd mind someone else fucking Casca, but he couldn't stomach sharing Gattsu, who would never be okay with manlove.
>>722083709She didn't and even if she did, it wasn't.
>>722083996>Still being baited by the 'she enjoyed it fags' It's been nearly 30 years bro you gotta learn to flow like water with this shit
>>722084270No. They gotta learn to flow like water with my shit.
>>722083996>She didn't Author says she did>and even if she did, it wasn't.Gay and cucked mentality
>>722083428>gonna check this out laterEr, perhaps, anon. The Rurouni Kenshin mangaka got nabbed, after all.>>722085006Gotta work on the people skills.
>>722085006So if your girlfriend gets raped, you'll call her a slut and leave her?
>>722085463Casca wasn't his girl, she stilled pined for Griffith.
>>722085619Yes she was, they fucked. You don't need an animu proposal scene to be a couple, this ain't a Japanese high school setting. She stopped pining for Griffith even before he turned into a skeleton.
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