/v/ has never refuted this
The Japanese have a workaholic culture so it makes total sense they'd insert retarded antiwork messaging into their games.
>>722038920I dont get it. All 3 are true, and thats a good thing.
need mommy milker agrias gf
>I don't want to work>I dont want to grow/farm my own food. I need the government to "create" food for me to have>you want me dead!!!!!Shitlibs are such faggots. He's right about laws only applying to the lower classes though, which is why you need a King ordained by God to keep everyone in check, who himself submits to Christ's supreme authority.
>>722038920Let me guess this character dies.
>>722038920he never said any of these
>>722039017They weren't in the original game, though.
>>722039170yes. after abandoning his sister, sacrificing his men to escape, and then selling his soul to a devil
>>722039117
>>722039256So a typical leftist
>>722039320You have my penis's full attention
>>722039465You can sympathize with them all you like, it doesn't make them any less reprehensible
>>722039320so... can anyone give me quick rundown on how to get into this series? or is it only one game?i have both a psp and a switch btw
>>722039465>Corpse BrigadeDeath Corps.
>>722039443Some Anon has a AI that makes sexy FFT characters. >>722037013
>>722039503based
>>722039573Just one game. The general consensus is that the PS1 version with The Lion War hack is probably best. If you want an elaborate, floral nu-lennial script, the PSP version (WotL) is very good. The original, unhacked PS1 version is still perfectly playable as well and has better audio than the PSP to boot.Or you can spend $100 on the new remake for some gay reason instead of getting it for free.
>>722039668My absolute nigger
>>722038920Might makes right
>>722039125You need a WHAT?
>>722038920Editing quotes into a video game dialogue box doesn't make them /v/ related
>RELIGION BAD>SCIENCE GOODslop game in a nutshell
>>722038920Finland has speeding tickets that are based on how much money you earn. You occasionally see hockey players get tagged with tickets worth tens of thousands of Euros.
>>722039990Robespierre you dumb nigger, you created every horror we now face in the modern age and deserved every miserable second of the rabble's tender justice
>>7220395733 games but the other 2 are the kids Shonen version in a isekai world.Im both a millionaire and an old fan but this remake wont be worth the price till mods come out. You might as well emulate the original or purchase the 2020 WotL for 12$.Id watch a YouTube video, if you think videogame chess is for you grab it if you have the attention span. Its both fun and has a good story.It can be difficult, one spot filtered every upperclass smart kid 12 yrold I know, but we did beat it. If your having any issues theres tons of build guides to make it easy.
>>722038920I mean, usually what's being charged is the commodity, not the food itself. What is exactly stopping you from growing your own food? Sure, you can't have an actual farm in your house but you don't need a farm to feed one person, do you? And for meat go fishing or hunt whatever is on season.
>>722040105You know he was 36? That blew me away.
>>722040203That's actually fuckin wild, what the hell is wrong with us
>>722039125Yeah, if God could actually do that things would be way easier for everyone.
>>722040070Please go back to your containment board.
>>722039768>>722040131it's fine, my switch is hacked so i'll just grab the nsp filei've played lots of fire emblem and unicorn overlord recently so i guess i'm in for a comfy time
>>722038920Reddit: the character
>>722040273>t. Lucavi
>>722038920what would be an appropriate sentence for a petty crime if not a fine?
>>722038920>/v/ has never refuted thisRefute what? He's right
Why do people pass these images around as if they were real and pretend they're a fan of the game?
>>722040325The game is pure kino from the second you finish the tutorial fightl i t t l e m o n e y
>>722040325If you are a UO connoisseur than you are a real one and should love this. Even if you are a negro pirate.
>>722040203>>722040237Something even wilder, back when he was a humble public official he used to be against the death penalty.Fucking ROBESPIERRE was against the death penalty.
>>722040385Butt sex
>>722040278copewithout Religion, civilization wouldn't prosper
>>722040385I guess he wants punishment to be measured not by the crime itself but by the status of whoever commits it.
>>722039049>Turning Point Ivalice
>>722040385Forced public labor for the common good. Imagine celebrities having to pick up litter for speeding or drug use charges lol.
>>722040597we already have community service, though
>>722040084If I make negative money, do they pay ME for speeding?>>722040597Didn't Paris Hilton have to do that in her tv show?
>>722040203>>722040237Revolution is a game for the young. The older you get, the more investment you have in the status quo whether you like it or not.
>>722040725I know im saying any moron can pick up a can. If our society puts such a value on labor then the common man and wealth should therefore both be punished by the sweat of their brow.
>>722040502Lenin held not one but two elections. Placed second the first time, was pissed do did another where he came in 3rd. Scrapped it all after.I think its just human nature. Less hyperbolic but every magatards I knew wouldnt shut the fuck up about Obamas deficit, now they tell me money isn't real. Wiegraf going full church is real.
>>722040530Same with science.
>only art is AIslopGrim
>>722038920>/v/ has never refuted thisThe resources needed to live require labor if you are not producing those resources through your own labor then you are enslaving others to support you. The state produces nothing. Taxation is theft.
>>722039125I physically can not stand talking to leftists anymore. They are so disingenuous it’s insane. When I was in LA I vented about some retarded homeless guy that spit on me and got in my face for no reason earlier that day and some anarchist that was a friend of a friend says “OH SO YOU JUST WANT THEM ALL KILLED IS THAT IT???” and I’m like no dude but an asylum would be nice. Why would you assume right off the bat that I just wanted to exterminate all vagrants across the country?
>>722040502Leftists literally do the exact same thing today >oh no, don't lethally inject inhuman criminal #32, he didn't mean it when he killed and raped three people! it was white supremacy that pushed him to seek such reparations >also here's my comic with me implying that I killed all my political opponents and a post of me celebrating the death of a milquetoast conservative commentator
>>722039125Reality>I don't want to work to support bankers and I don't want my labor devalued by inflation so that I work even harder to support bankersI denounce the Talmud.
>>722038920>Fines hurt poor people?So what's appropriate action for somone who breaks a window? Death? Disfigurement? Imprisonment?Indentured servitude? For how long?Fines aren't perfect, but they're a good compromise for minor offenses that don't warrant capital punishment. >MUH CORPORATIONSI believe any corporation that knowingly endangers the public and attempts to hide that fact should have their CEO and entire board executed, the same goes for individuals, next question please.
>>722040530What is it about believing in magic zombie jews that makes society prosper?
>>722040974Get out of here Nozick, you arent cool anymore! You are still Handsome though.
>>722041158It’s fake empathy. They have “empathy” for the worst scum in the world, literal menaces to society, and absolutely 0 empathy for the victims of these people.
>>722041190Fines should be based on income bracket.
>>722041108Probably because your fascist talking heads on fox news talk about wanting to murder homeless
>>722038920/v/ isn't exactly an important battleground for ideas, faggot.
>>722039125Never trust any man who works his way into a supreme position of power. Companies don't get to be #1 in a field by being the most consumer-friendly, they do it by being the most cutthroat and getting the biggest profit for the shareholders at the cost of everyone lower on the ladder. Microsoft cut 9000 jobs this summer to replace with AI and then mass-emailed everyone who was fired that they should use AI to make new resumes. These are companies that would fire every last human seeking a wage and replace them with an AI, every last human that's not a shareholder and already making the big bucks.Psychopaths are more likely to succeed in business because they have no sense of empathy and make hard cuts. The only reason the world is panicking about population growth stagnation is that it means there will be fewer people to care for the elderly, there will be fewer sources of cash, business can't perpetually grow. If CEOs and rich tycoons suddenly gained the ability to negotiate with aliens who offered far more than what we as human consumers could offer, there would be no more concerns. The farm is useless and the livestock means nothing now, it's just an something that's grown to be far too much of an expense, kill 'em all, sterilize them, it's just business, there are no feelings. You think the politician with the big smile on his face is telling you the truth when he says he's your friend and everything he's doing he's doing for you? He's the guy negotiating with the farmers and you're the livestock, he just wants to be in a position above you on the chain.
>>722041586>t. Seething poorfag
>>722039125The government prevents me from doing things like growing my own food or building my own shelter.If I try, I'll get arrested because I don't own the land, or I'm breaking some zoning law by using my land in a way they don't like.Lots of people want to grow food on their own property but they legally can't use the land for that.If the government is gonna take away my ability to support myself, they have to support me instead.This is why homelessness exists. If not for the government, homeless people would build permanent shelters for themselves.But if they try, the government comes to kick them out and burn it down. So instead they live out of tents or vehicles which can be easily moved.They can't just go into the woods and build a cabin. All land belongs to someone. Or belongs to the government like National Parks.
>>722041478The more people like you say shit like that the less I care if they start rounding up the homeless and killing them.
>>722040974>>722041286John Rawls wished he looked like this.
>>722041834Why even pretend you're not a sociopathic piece of shit? Thats what your clownshow of a country has turned into after all
>>722041734Homeless people exist because they are mentally ill.
>>722041687Why would you care about anyone beneath you, or anyone outside your tribe? They can all die horrible deaths and as long as me and my interests benefit eternally I don't see why I should care. Empathy is a useless emotion that people stop realizing is only a pretend emotion you use to get what you want, playing society is a means to an end. The entire meaning of life is avoiding death and sustaining myself vicariously through reproduction, I will live forever.I hate the Jews so goddamn much, but it's not because of anything they do. It's because it's not me and my tribe doing it to the world, it's a perversion of the natural order.
>>722042152Jews have the exact same mentality as you, the difference being you're extremely stupid
>>722038920Because it’s not in the game retardTake your bait elsewhere
>>722042321>Because it’s not in the game retardwhere is it from then
>>722042152>Empathy is a useless emotion that people stop realizing is only a pretend emotion you use to get what you wantWe should eradicate beings such as yourself.
>>722039125How you guys so fucking retarded that you think that is what they are saying. Actual dumb as a fucking nigger
>>722041943Unless physically prevented, homeless people will build homes for themselves. Even if they're mentally ill drug addicts. Not good homes, but permanent residences they won't get kicked out of every week. And then they will no longer be homeless. Homelessness is an unnatural condition created by the government.I'm not arguing for that to be the system though. What I'm describing is called a shanty town, and we can do better than that.What I'm saying is that if the government is going to ban shanty towns, it has to provide decent alternatives.
>>722038920What's there to refute? He's right. The duty of society should be that everyone gets to live, and it's ridiculous we live in one where we have more than enough food and housing for everyone to survive, but it's allowed to rot or gather dust for the express purpose of protecting prices instead.
>>722041912John Rawls wished he looked like this. My boy here with the real answer.
>>722042623wagies are retarded and think being paid a fair wage makes you a lefty
I don't blame anyone conservative getting angry, but the world was partitioned and handed out ages ago and now wealth sits in those degenerates' hands, it deserves to be redistributed
rights don't exist
The only authority that exists is violence
>>722042623But everyone does get to live. Nobody is starving to death. Biggest issue by far is dying of pleasure (Fentynal).Its tough math but the homeless live longer and healthier than ancient kings. Scientific progress lifts all of us up, but it costs money. I wont say Bezos deserves his money fair and square to purchase a yacht. Thats a fraction of a fraction of his wealth though. 98% is invested in building a better future. As any 4x gamer knows that shit compounds. Won't happen if we take his money and give it to Tyrone though. You are stealing from the youth, rich and poor alike.
>>722038920Algus' response to that in-game was brutal
>>722041190The point is when the only punishment is a flat fine, it's really not much of a punishment if you're reasonably wealthy. Charging some broke motherfucker 200$ for a speeding ticket is far more impactful towards them than charging a wealthy person 200$ for the same "crime", which is essentially irrelevant to them. This is why a lot of things that are "illegal" to corporations become moreso a cost of doing business, and in 99% of situations, the gains made by doing the illegal thing far outstrip the cost of the fine.
>>722043056>98% is invested in building a better future.
They hijacked the creation of money you fucking idiots you're all slaves
>>722041920You literally want deranged, homeless drug addicts to be inflicted on the rest of society knowing full well they will kill, rape, and harass normal people.
>>722043290Greed, for lack of a better word, is good.https://youtu.be/VVxYOQS6ggk?si=DiXGiyz8tVRNfm7-
>>722041478>one guy said it therefore this is what all right wingers believe Big brain leftist moment. The Weather Underground openly talked about plans to exterminate all white babies, I don’t assume that’s what every single leftist in America wants, although a good deal of them certainly do
>>722042575They will build a shelter but not a home since they refuse to be part of the community that surrounds them.
>>722043559The average homeless person does not kill or rape. Most are only homeless for 2 years. You are retarded.
>>722042384Some twitter user
>>722043389You aren't?
>>722043559>will kill, rape, and harass normal people.so the same as every so-called "leader"?
>>722043751I'm contacting you from another planet you ape
>>722043687>Most are only homeless for 2 years.Big if true.
>>722043672>they refuse to be part of the communityWhat's that based on? Because they're literally banned from trying that in this country.They're not allowed to be part of the community because the community is afraid of them and wants them driven out of town.So the cops come by once a month and destroy a homeless encampment only for it to congeal somewhere else.How are you supposed to "be part of the community" like that?
>>722043687I’m talking about schizophrenic drug addicts that are a malignant blight on all of our cities, not some normal person that was laid off and is sleeping in his car for a few weeks while he saves up for rent. Can you try not to be a disingenuous little faggot for once in your life? Anyone that is being fair would know I was talking about menance to society drug addicted schizos, not fucking normal people that are homeless for a few weeks and then get back to a normal life. When you’re talking to a right winger and they vent about how the homeless are annoying, your mind literally jumps to the conclusion that i want to genocide every single homeless person, including normal people that are down on their luck, which is a position no reasonable person would take. Please kill yourself now for being such a disingenuous piece of leftist shit
So when do we go back to unga bunga times?
>>722038920>earning a living means that by default we dont deserve to be alivecorrect. normally id say you dont deserve anything but suffering unless you can fend for yourself, but modernity has made that too low of a bar to clear and now we have an overabundance of the lower end of the bell curve regarding human qualityHashtagKillMorePoorPeople
>>722043912>repeatedly transgress the social mores of the community>act surprised when they don't want to associate with you
>>722044035>menance to society drug addicted schizosthe government?
>>722044035Should be yelling at the drug companies that turn these people into that way instead of random people who think they dont deserve death because some corpo fucked them over
>>722044219
>>722044035>your mind literally jumps to the conclusion that i want to genocide every single homeless person, including normal people that are down on their luck, which is a position no reasonable person would takeYou just said this though >>722041834, i was right you are retarded. Why the fuck would you say that isnt your position and then say it was in another.
>>722044279so are you saying that you don't understand me or are you just pretending?
>Earning a living implies by default we don't deserve to be aliveYes unironically. If you are able bodied but can't support yourself you should go away
>>722044142How are they supposed to not transgress?
>>722044237Which drug companies? You mean the foreigners that manufacture and illegally ship fentanyl to the US? We took care of the Sacklers, and it’s now extremely difficult to get prescribed opiates from a doctor
>>722038920We live in a world where you're born to fight for your survival, and it will impose on you, regardless of the system.No matter how rightful or "good" you try to make it, the very nature of the world will show it's ugly face.Best you can do is to diversify the means of survival enough that everyone has something to make in this world.
>>722044382And if you're not able bodied?
>>722044450>We took care of the SacklersThey got a slap on the wrist instead of spending their life in prison. That is no justice
>>722044327That wasn’t my post, it was a random guy that replied
>>722044450oh no, the scary foreigners keep making drugs that we CAN NOT stop taking because we NEED THEM
>>722044327He didn't say it was his position he said it wasn't his position not to do it.
>>722044382>able bodiedSo how is that going to work when im fighting against jeets who will work way lower wages than i could ever survive on? Retarded post anon.
>>722044035To the shitlib brain mentally ill drug addicted retards who somehow destroyed every relationship/lifeline in their lives (or never formed any due to coming from some kind of inferior genetic end, in which case good riddance all the same) is of equal """value""" (as if anything that doesnt benefit me or my interests is of any ""value"" to me) to a normal person so you need to give them hu- oh ahha hold on let me try and say it. Human rigAHAHAHA oh no man i cant lol its just too funny
>>722044450Who's buying the drugs?
>>722044512That’s fair, I wasn’t familiar with the sentencing. Still, the issue of fentanyl on the streets right now isn’t from any US company
>>722044389Stop doing homeless shit.
>>722038920Vae Victis.
>>722044549>>722044602Has nothing to do with the conversation
>>722044604The CIA intentionally lets drugs into the country because the money they seize from dealers and what not goes to their own bank account. There is alot more at work here then just mere foreigners bringing it in.
>>722044676Are you sure?That's awfully convenient for you.
>>722044681Interesting, where did you hear this? Genuinely asking
>>722038920He's right. If the government is gonna steal my money via taxation then they have to provide for me.
>>722044694It comes from Mexican cartels mostly, China is involved as well
>>722044652>dude just buy homes lol
>>722044740Its called Civil forfeiture, lets any type of policing agency seize any type of asset and sell it off or keep it for themself. The worst part is, They don't even need to prove the assets were linked to illegal use.
Americans seem to be fundamentally incapable of imagining any degree of nuance between a capitalist oligarchy and communist authoritarianism.
>>722044676WHO'S BUYING THE DRUGS?
>>722038920Because FFTA already refutes it for us. The lives of his entire society are narratively worth less than the amount of inconvinience they cause to some random kid trying to get home.
lets post more things /v/ has never refuted
>>722044972im not reading all of that shit
>>722044861No you can still be homeless just don't do homeless shit. No one cares if you're homeless.
>>722044918Drug addicts?
>>722044861I wanna have sex with her
>>722044787The correct answer to this conundrum is physical violence against anything attempting to tax you, not to ask politely for a fancier cuck chair like faggot opnone of the people who say shit like this want anything else than to be end up a nigger welfare queen
>>722039125yeah man go grow your own food on all that free land
>>722045190
>>722038920>"WORDSWORDSWORDSWORDSWORDS">>722044926>"i'm going to cause the apocalypse so I can send my bro back to his wheelchair"
>>722044909social media gives people a direct incentive to take the most absurd far left/right positions possible because it gets them attention and in some cases financial reward, after a decade or so of this getting shoved down our throats you get retarded hyper-polarization where both sides basically live in completely different realities.
Doesn't he submit to a demon or am I misremembering?
>>722045393It’s not in the game, some twitter user made up the text boxes and OP is baiting
>>722044926Tell me Marche did anything wrong putting Ivalice out of its misery when it was stuck in a tug of war between proto-Commies looking to repeat the Great Leap Forward in pre-industrial conditions and Jews who sustainably exploited their goycattle but forgot the part where they needed an other to steer them against, all being overseen by literal lawyers with god-like powers whose greatest concerns begin and end on how well you can play Simon Says while retarding the progress of both sides to ensure their grievances are always boiling against each other.
>>722045929The real world's no better and Marche has significantly less power or possibility to affect any change there.
>>722046376At least the real world didn't have the lawyers unnaturally prolonging everything and leaving the things stagant for centuries.
>>722038920>deterrence still exists>maslows hierarchyIn a society you work your section, while others work theirs in order to collectively achieve the necessities for all who contribute.>if you can't achieve basic necessities from your political structure, then you should expect Darwinism.
>>722042482It's actually true though. The root of the western leftoid political thesis is that they should have all of their wants and needs provided for by the state with no expectation of return.
>>722046718It is not, they are arguing for fair wages, fair justice. >The root of the western leftoid political thesis is that they should have all of their wants and needs provided for by the state with no expectation of return.This is the opinion of someone who gets all his opinions from the internet, and does not talk to someone outside.
>>722042623The poorest Americans eat themselves to death. We live in comical abundance already. The homeless are those that actively avoid all social safety nets in favor of doing drugs.
>>722046813>The homeless are those that actively avoid all social safety nets in favor of doing drugs.This isn't even remotely true, alot of shelters are in full use. The average homeless person is not a fucking crack addict.
>>722046813>The poorest Americans eat themselves to death.Yeah cause the cheapest food is unhealthy but also intentionally addictive. This just speaks to a whole other problem we have.
>>722046813Spoken like someone who's never been at the end of their rope. There's a million reasons why someone can end up homeless without being addicted to drugs. Have you even spoken to ANYONE outside of your room?
>>722040951>society needs both science and religionIntelligent design bros, it's our time!
>>722040385Pillory
>>722046794No, they think healthcare, housing, and food should be free. Not fairly priced, free.>fair justice.To the western leftoid, "fair justice" means paying a violent robber or rapist or murderer in hopes the financial windfall will magically rehabilitate him. If he's not white. If he is white, lock his ass up for a twitter post.>This is the opinion of someone who gets all his opinions from the internet, Protip, retard, the things people post online ARE what they want. It's their authentic opinion, unclouded by the need to maintain social presentability. To hear the truth, hand someone a mask.
>>722044972This fox has never beaten the hmofa allegations so I don't have to listen to a word she says
>>722039186not that retarded anon but the problem is that matsuno's writing is so gay and bad that it could very well be from the actual game, which is what makes people think it is
>>722047008The average homeless person is not a crack addict, he does meth and/or heroin.>>722047079>cheap food makes me fat!Typical lardass coping nonsense. No type of food can make you fat, just eat less, retard.>>722047184"The homeless" are not people who are out of resources and options. They are people who shun every opportunity to get help because it would require going clean or because they are insane to the point of being dangerous.
>>722044382Even if you aren't able bodied if you can't work you will die. Boomers are getting to live incredibly long lives and their pensions and healthcare is getting unsustainable and the younger generations are paying for it while nobody will pay for theirs
>>722047239>healthcareThe entire point of healthcare is to have a healthy people, the moment it becomes about money, it means human lives are not worth preserving but some piggy bank to drain.This is the argument of cattle.>housing, and food should be free. Not fairly priced, free.No they don't and i know you cannot provide a single example.>To the western leftoid, "fair justice" means paying a violent robber or rapist or murderer in hopes the financial windfall will magically rehabilitate hStrawman the argument. Fair justice means that the wealthy should pay the same kind of punishment as someone poor. In the case of OP, the fine should equal in size to someone wealthy as it would someone poor, the wealthier you are, the biggest it should be. >Protip, retard, the things people post online ARE what they want. It's their authentic opinion, unclouded by the need to maintain social presentability. To hear the truth, hand someone a mask.No they arent. People say stupid shit on the internet they would never say in real life. Look at death threats, then you go out in real life and the fag saying it wouldn't hurt a fly. This is a fucking cope.
>>722047454>he does meth and/or heroin.Drug addict homeless are the smallest % of homeless people. If you are going to bring them up atleast know what you are talking about.
>>722047635>Goldman Sachs asks in biotech research report: ‘Is curing patients a sustainable business model?’
>>722047239That's not what people are arguing for at all nimrod. There's a difference between maintenance care and emergency care. Most people forgo an ambulance because it can financially ruin them even if they have life threatening injuries. That's fucking stupid. There's no fucking reason why the "most prosperous nation in the world" has so many people who can be left destitute because of a car accident destroying their ability to work even if they themselves did nothing wrong.
>>722047454>>Typical lardass coping nonsense. No type of food can make you fat, just eat less, retard.>buy tons of cheap food in large quantities. Does not have the proper nutrition so you have to eat more to be full>Turns out its more calorie dense and does make you fatterAre you just intentionally being dense.
>>722041834Hope you're homeless one day buddy, then I hope there is a system in place that helps you and you feel gratitude for the first time in your life.
>>722047763That really says alot and why anyone who defends the current healthcare industry is fucking retarded
>>722047239You have businessmen with zero background in Healthcare dictating what medications your citizens get, even overturning decisions made by actual doctors. Shut the fuck up.
>>722044972What the FUCK was her problem
>>722047454>>Typical lardass coping nonsense. No type of food can make you fat, just eat less, retard.Also cheap food is chock full of shit to make them addictive. Their is a reason why america has an obesity epidemic. And its not cause their stupid. They are just poisoned by all the sugars and shit meant to make them keep eating.
>>722039320soulless soulsoulless soulless
>>722047635>The entire point of healthcare is to have a healthy people, the moment it becomes about money, it means human lives are not worth preserving but some piggy bank to drain.This is the argument of cattle.>you're cattle if you think that the medical industry shouldn't be a ten trillion dollar slave hotel to save me from the consequences of my own lifestyle for freeFuck you.>No they don't and i know you cannot provide a single example.The entire concept of squatter's rights and endorsement of outright stealing from even grocery stores>Strawman the argument. It's not a strawman, it's what you retards do>Fair justice means that the wealthy should pay the same kind of punishment as someone poor. No, by "fair justice", you mean that anyone who physically enters the country should be untouchable by authorities, that economic insentive or alledged social slight can justify brutal violent crime (as long as the criminal is brown or preferably black), and that there's no ethical way to actually apprehend or prosicute a criminal. Also you want to abolish bail and jail except for your political opponents.>People say stupid shit on the internet they would never say in real life.It's not "stupid shit", it's their authentic beliefs. It's what they would do if they thought they could get away with it.
oh he's mad
>>722047916It's also a matter of cost. A burger is cheaper, requires no preparation on the part of the consumer, and can be acquired fast. For anyone who spends the majority of their day working or in transit its a convenient choice. Some the actual good choices both cost more and requires more time.
>>722048060>Fuck you.This made me laugh so hard. oh my god im talking to a child
>>722043559>how dare this leftist assume i want all the homeless gassed>now watch as i baselessly assume that you want all of them left permanently on the street with no support or action taken to stop them spitting on peopleyou are a parody of your own self.
>>722043001>rights don't existIf I hold a gun to your head and tell you they exist. Then they exist. If they serve peace and order and liberty then we must will them to exist.
>>722047854Takes 2k to save an African life from malaria. 5m to save a premi baby. England just lets them die. There's only so much resources to go around.We know a white baby is worth more but is it worth 2500x more?Top it off all the billionaires in the US have 7t. US current deficit US 1.6t without public health.There us no easy answers, and doctors arent economists.
>>722047690ALL chronically homeless are drug addicts and/or terminal alcoholics. All of them. Zero exceptions.>>722047764People like you always open with "ambulances cost too much" and then end with demanding universal healthcare. Also protip retard, everyone without insurance just throws medical bills in the trash. It's the sticker price for opening negotiation with blue cross, not something they would ever hope to actually collect from some pleb with no coverage or money.>>722047791>buy tons of cheap food in large quantities. Does not have the proper nutrition so you have to eat more to be fullThis doesn't exist. It's completely fucking made up. Just eat less, and you'll find you're not hungry anymore after a couple minutes. Make it a habbit and you'll find your hunger adapted to the new food intake levels. This takes less than a week.
>>722048060A person has tumors on their thyroid that requires a total thyroidectomy. Because their thyroid has been removed from their body because of a genetic defect, they're required to take Synthroid as a thyroid replacement hormone. However the insurance won't clear the Synthroid medication until other medications has been tested against the advisement of the Endocrinologist that prescribed it. So while he's arguing with the insurance company, the patient is suffering because of a genetic defect that they tried to address and paid for.How is this not a broken system? Especially treat the patient like a thief who should be "prosicuted."
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>>722047854Kennedy is a fucking retard but so are the bullheaded immunologists he beefs with.
>>722048425>>ALL chronically homeless are drug addicts and/or terminal alcoholics. All of them. Zero exceptions.Well chronically homeless is not average homeless, so thats an entirely different discussion. We also have a fucked up country that is not helping people and leading to these peoples. They cant get a home, or are struggling and then they spiral into a addiction abyss. There is a reason why addiction is called the disease of despair.
>>722048462that's a great question but have you considered how much money the shareholders are making? sure, patients and doctors are important, but we can't forget the real stakeholders when talking about healthcare, after all.
>>722048425>This takes less than a week.Not true, if a person has been eating like shit for years. it will takes year for their body to adopt to the changes. Your hormones don't fix themselves in a day.
>>722047916>Also cheap food is chock full of shit to make them addictive. No, it doesn't. It just tastes good.>Their is a reason why america has an obesity epidemic. It's because Americans are sedentary gluttonous retards with effectively unlimited access to food and unlimited capacity to deflect blame for the consequences of their lifestyles.
>>722044382>Get told all your life that your only value is your hands if not your brain>AI comes along>Suddenly your hands are no longer needed because humanity as a whole always innovates in creatively lazy ways>All of your value is now gone if you're not also a brainiac because there's a cheaper, less risky alternative availableHorses were highly valued because they were used everywhere up until the automobile came along. Now horses only have a niche for ranch work and sports. Humans will go through something similar as robot labor becomes more abundant.
>>722048609>No, it doesn't.Sugar is quite addictive, not something like hard drugs sure but it can lead to cravings. Then eating itself a common habit for people who suffer from depression, which is rampant in america.>It's because Americans are sedentary gluttonous retards with effectively unlimited access to food and unlimited capacity to deflect blame for the consequences of their lifestyles.You need to look at foods in the US and then the rest of the world. The rest of the world doesnt have fucking corn syrup and sugar in their fucking bread. Corn syrup is so many god damn things for no reason.
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>>722048462"Synthroid" or levothyroxine is a generic small molecule drug that costs less than a dollar per pill with no insurance.
>>722048540>Well chronically homeless is not average homelessIt is the average homeless person who lives on the streets outside the law, which is what we're fucking talking about.>We also have a fucked up country that is not helping people and leading to these peoples.No, the drugs come first.
>>722048060>>you're cattle if you think that the medical industry shouldn't be a ten trillion dollar slave hotel to save me from the consequences of my own lifestyle for freeThousands of people have to sue their insurance company to cover drugs that are insured. Can you show us a picture of your nose?
>>722048602They literally do. I've personally done it. Realized I was eating too much agnd gaining weight so I cut back hard. Kinda sucks for like 2 days then it's fine.
I wouldn't argue it in the first place.
>>722049106>No, the drugs come first.Going after the drug first is why are where we are. If you want to stop addictions, you need to treat the reason why people are going for them. Poverty for instance is a MASSIVE indicator for future drug abuse.
what did sonic mean by this
>>722038920He’s right, poor people need more regulation than the wealthyWe don’t deserve to liveAnd we are free to starveI can’t refute how correct he is.
>>722049158>I've personally done itAnon do you understand ancedotal evidence is the most worthless kind..
>>722048792Sugar is not addictive except for "people like pleasure" which isn't what fucking addiction is (something that induces withdrawl if you stop taking it)>Then eating itself a common habit for people who suffer from depression, So, fucking don't? You're a human, not a pet, control yourself.>You need to look at foods in the US and then the rest of the world. The rest of the world doesnt have fucking corn syrup and sugar in their fucking bread. Corn syrup is so many god damn things for no reason.Corn syrup is just fucking sugar and water. It's a boogyman.
>>722049012That's not the point. The point is the insurance company can refuse to pay for it. Even if you made your payments faithfully for decades. Even if you're doctor says you need it. ANY medication or care or procedure can be turned down for any reason. Like, and I'm just spitballing here, the AI algorithm your insurance company uses decides to deny you. The point is that your quality of life can be dictated by an entity with as much medical background as the writers from Grey's Anatomy who sees both you and the doctor's who treat you as a money farm. >>722048545 hit the nail on the head. It's not about your health. It's about shareholders keeping you just healthy enough to keep working but not so healthy that you don't need them. And at that point your system is fucking corrupt.
>>722049246We never actually went after the drugs. We barely even dipped our toes in it. We need a Singapore tier inquisition.>Poverty for instance is a MASSIVE indicator for future drug abuse.You have the causality backwards.
>>722049303>So, fucking don't?Are you intentionally being retarded or do you not understand how depression works...
>>722038920who says you deserve to live? the sun? you live cause you choose to
>>722049367>You have the causality backwards.Im gonna call on you to prove that, because i know you cant..
>>722039125i want to work>lmao no, fuck you we dont even care if you did higher education youre not an illegal pajeet so itd be illegal to pay you below minimum wageok, il live out of a van and catch fish or something then>oy vey! dont you know goy, being homeless is illegal! also its not technically legal for you to eat any fish you catchcan i farm then?>lollmao like you have any land to do it on loserthey literally want us dead i dont get your point here
>>722049296>don't believe your lying eyes, believe my retarded lardass excuses!Kill yourself. It'll be the least painful end given your obesity.
>>722049370You're the fucking retard for acting like people are not or should not be responsible for what they put in their own mouths.
>>722049447Thats alot of words when you could of just said no.
>be in a forest alone>refuse to venture out and fend for yourself>just sit there under a tree waiting for mother nature to award you for just being alive>she doesn'tI'm guessing the kind of people who think this way look up to some other authority? Like some father figure who they expect a pat on the head from? Who is that figure and why do they expect this?
>>722049350>The point is the insurance company can refuse to pay for it.And my point is that you're a retard who knows nothing about medicine and that's why you picked an example where someone could easily take care of it on their own end.
>>722049502We aren't talking about responsibility, we are talking about WHY they do what they do. and humans are consistently illogical. Do you have autism because it seems like you have a surprising bad understand of people.
>>722049571The entire point of civilization is that you dont live by rule of the jungle.
>>722049425People taking drugs and losing their jobs and money is something that happens frequently. Someone going totally broke and then somehow paying for illegal narcostics out of the blue and deciding to pick up this habit despite it decreasing their ability to find work is less frequent.
>>722049589It is not society's job to protect retards from the consequences of their own decisions.
>>722049775WHAT? What the fuck do you think laws are for dumbass. Holy shit what a dumb fucking post.
>>722038920Guys, we can now play!
>>722049571>be in a town>want to find a job>they wont hire you because youre not a black transgender woman from ukrain despite your several years of schooling to be a blue collar worker>cant build a home, its illegal>cant farm food, its illegal>cant hunt food, its illegal>cant even live out of a car, because that is now also illegalthe way i see it, if the government makes any way to be self sufficient illegal, then its THEIR job to take care of us because THEY are the ones who literally told us not to do that
>>722049303Food addiction causes withdrawal symptoms. Sugar itself doesn't cause it, but it can accessorize it, as sugar is empty calories that don't satiate, making the body think it needs more food for satisfaction, resulting in a caloric surplus. The body becomes accustomed to the caloric surplus, resulting in food addiction.
>>722039125Christs supreme authority becomes nothing but a shield of infallibility for the wicked.
>>722049803To protect people from other people, dipshit.
>>722049775>>It is not society's job to protect retards from the consequences of their own decisions......do you know why we have safety regulations...
>>722049876And also encourage specific behavior, like you know, not murdering and stealing. dipshit.
>>722038920This has already been solved but certain groups in power prevent it from being implemented
>>722038920>i deserve free shit and everything handed to meCommie faggotry
Alright /v/, let's play a game. I have three questions for you.1. A runaway trolley is headed for five people tied to the tracks. You are on a bridge and can pull a lever to divert the trolley onto a side track, but there is one person tied to that track. Do you pull the switch to divert the train to the side path or not?2. A surgeon needs to perform an organ transplant on five dying patients. A healthy individual comes into the hospital for a routine checkup, and the surgeon has the option to kill this person and use their organs to save the five patients. Should the surgeon kill the one healthy patient to save the five?3. Five patients arrive in the emergency ward of a hospital with life-threatening injuries. You have just enough time to operate to save all of them if you try. Just then, one more patient with even more life-threatening injuries arrives in the emergency ward. You can save him, but it will take all your time and effort. Should you save the five, or leave them to die and save the one?
>>722050143Look at this retard who is too stupid to understand what hes reading.
>>722049842Momscience horseshit. Third worlders eat 1200 calories a day of the most wretchedly macro imbalanced dogshit possible but don't get fat because it's 1200 calories and don't feel hungry because they don't make a habit of overeating.
>>722050145i push the brain in the jar onto the tracks to save the fat man who didn't know what evil was from pulling the lever
>>722050198Found the commie scum
>>722049638Yeah, that means you cannot sneak into neighboring caveman's hut and steal the coconut he picked. Because the tribe agreed whoever does this will be killed, even if you have the opportunity when he is away or even if at the time you're well-armed enough to get past one guy's opposition, because everyone else will collectively come for you. That's civilization. Protection for the work that you do. Not protection from having to work.However I do agree that the government should not have the right to deny people to pick and eat any of nature's bounties. Doing that is attempted murder by starvation.
>>722049881Yes, to protect people from the laziness, negligence, and greed of other people.
>>722050275You have failed the exercise and God has condemned you to eternal hell as punishment.
>>722050278LOL the dumb nigger still doesnt get it!
>>722050327Lower IQ commie tier response.
>>722050326phew i was worried something real might happen for a second loli can deal with a dead wizard cursing me with bad juju for all eternity after i croak i'll survive
>>722050297So... in other words, to stop people from consequences of their own actions?
>>722044382 So I guess we should start killing off all the disabled and old people then
>>722050360And by God I mean me.I'm diverting the trolley towards you.
>>722038920>"earning a living" implies that by default we don't deserve to be aliveyes, that's how it's been foreverhave you not heard "if you don't work, you don't eat"?
>>722050348>can only say commieNPC moment
>>722050415yes
>>722038920>avatarfag>calling others npcs
>>722049935This is not contradictory to my statement that it is not society's job to protect a person from themself.
>>722050470>cant even reply correctlyLOL ahahahhaha
>>722050237It's almost like if they ate the same quantity of matter but it was 3000 calories (because of being laden with high fructose corn syrup) then they'd get fat. Satiation is a property of mass, not caloric density.
>>722050472>it is not society's job to protect a person from themself.Except society does that, constantly.
>>722050374No, to stop people from the consequences of OTHER PEOPLE'S actions, specifically their fraud or laziness or stupidity.
>>722038920I been meaning to play this, what version should i play?
>>722050527All carbs have the same caloric density you fucking retard.
>>722050585Im going to give you an example, a drivers license. The point is to ensure you have some understanding of how to drive, letting anyone drive willingly nilly with zero experience could easily cause that person to hurt themself. When doctors prescribe you a drug, they inform you of how to take it correctly, So you dont take it wrong and hurt yourself. You are wrong.
>>722050145The lever man can do it but the surgeon can't. Because in the lever man's case someone else already kidnapped and abducted all those people so the only thing the lever man can control is casualty number. If the surgeon sedates a man and steals his organs and he dies that's drugging, kidnapping, theft and murder and it doesn't matter if he has any patients, it's always that.For 3, the other people arrived first so the last guy can't just jump the line since they're all compartmentalized in the "fatal" category. He could maybe line jump people from non-lethal categories.
>>7220501451. side path, it leads to less suffering of an unfortunate situation2. The five die, because the other is just straight up murder.3. The five patients, this is just 1 again differently worded.
>>722050682Cool, too bad I just said satiation is a matter of mass. You could eat all the carbs in the world and not feel satisfied if they were physically dense. Down a whole bottle of sugar and your body's still hungry. Try reading a post instead of just saying nothing?
>>722047913she was based... and she was woke
>>722050145>>722050761The military can fire upon enemies with human shields too.And if Heinz steals the medicine for his wife the court might find him guilty. Then he can weigh "yeah the sentence is worth it to save her" but shouldn't expect automatical absolution.
>>722050682>the human digestive tract is a bomb calorimeter
>>722050884All carbs have the same caloric density and therefore the same mass per calorie, retard. Sugar is not more dense or more calorically dense than starch. You DO NOT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.
>>722051091It basically is, unless you have diarrhea or a parasitic infection.
>>722039125>I dont want to grow/farm my own food. I need the government to "create" food for me to haveYou could literally try this and the moment they find out you're on land you didn't buy they'll remove you if it means dropping a tactical nuke. Lolbertarians exist in a vacuum. There's too much damage from bad government to try and walk it back. There has to be an organized resolution to these problems.
>>722050691The point of requiring a driver's license is to protect other people from you, not you from yourself.>When doctors prescribe you a drug, they inform you of how to take it correctly, So you dont take it wrong and hurt yourself. And they are not liable if you fuck up and hurt yourself despite that warning. It would be THEIR fault, THEIR lack of action if they failed to explain what you should do with the medicine.
>>722051116NTA but you have some terrible reading comprehension. He's talking about matter of fullness, Sugar itself is not filling at all, it does not matter how many calories of it you chug, you will not be full. Now take something like rice, that certainly gives you fullness. So while people are chowing down on a shit load cookies, they aren't getting that fullness, because most of it, is just sugar
>>722051221>He's talking about matter of fullness, Sugar itself is not filling at all, it does not matter how many calories of it you chug, It literally fucking does. It fills to exactly the same extent any other carb does. In fact, for a person who hasn't destroyed their own sense of taste with gluttonous excess, a person is much more likely to grow sick of eating sweets faster than eating bread.
>>722051204>and they are not liable if you fuck up and hurt yourself despite that warningThat is not true, a pharmacy is not liable if you take drugs wrong. Those warning on the back of the medicine do not make the companies liable cause you stupidly chug it, it entirely for you to protect yourself. You are just arguing for the sake of arguing even though you are completely wrong.
>>722051310>Those warning on the back of the medicine do not make the companies liable cause you stupidly chug it, it entirely for you to protect yourself.It's actually to protect them from you (legally)
>>722051116Anon. I am talking about physical density and how your body reacts to it. A thin layer of sugar vs a large lump of bread may have the same quantity of carbohydrates and those carbohydrates within them may have the same densities, but as food items they do not have the same quantity of mass.
>>722051302Calories do not cause fullness by itself, you do not understand nutrition, proteins, fiber, those specific carbs induce it, pure sugar on the other hand does not. This is like basic ass nutrition by the way.
>>722051302Carbs themselves are not what fill you, dummy. Your stomach is not a calorie measurer.>a person is much more likely to grow sick of eating sweets faster than eating bread.Almost like you're getting too many calories in the process of satisfying your hunger and your body isn't happy about it.
>>722042152bro has never heard of the prisoner's dilemma in his lifeeven rich society degrades as capitalism expandselon musk the richest gamer in the world still has to play lazily made microtransaction slop like diablo 4
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>>722038920America in particular does have a significant issue in letting the wealthy get away with so much that the poor cannot, and naturally people are tired of it and have lost faith in the country. All these ICE captures in particular are emblematic of the issue, why not make a big show of capturing the employers who hire illegals? Scare those faggots first and foremost, if job creators are terrified to hire illegals you'll have a lot less of them. Somehow Americans forgot if you want to kill something you go straight for the head.
>>722051357>It's actually to protect them from you (legally)Nope it is not. You cannot sue say tylenol cause you took it wrong, they are not on the hook, the warning on it does not absolve you of personal responsibility
>>722047635>No they arent. People say stupid shit on the internet they would never say in real life.This vapid response alone demonstrates that everything else you say is probably profoundly unserious and idiotic. Imagine my shock when that turns out to be true.
>>722038920>Fake leftist quotes that don't remotely fit the narrativeIt's always hilarious to me how leftist faggots always feature Weigraf in these fake quotes. A whiny, endlessly seething self righteous clown who is revealed to be nothing more than a psychopath the milisecond he gets power.
>>722051628>This vapid response alone demonstrates that everything else you say is probably profoundly unserious and idiotic. Imagine my shock when that turns out to be true.How many people on /pol/ are attacking jews bud. Its all empty words. Only a retard takes twitter seriously. Please tell me you are not that dumb.
>>722041734fair points with a retarded imagedo you have any idea where your shekels are going, rentoid?please include with your answer whether you've ever voted to approve any property tax increases to fund social services
>>722038920>if the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower classThis is just poorfag copium because the issue isn't the fine itself but that others have more money than them and they're seething about it. It's no different than saying "if the penalty for a crime is running, then that law only exists for out of shape lardasses">"Earning a living" implies that by default we don't deserve to be aliveWhat retarded marxist bullshit. The implication here is that by merely existing you deserve to have all your needs magically taken care of for you with zero input from yourself. Fuck off and get a job.>If one if free politically but has no food, what is that? Freedom to starve?Probably the single most retarded pseudointellectual nonsense of two entirely unrelated things I've read in recent memory. It sounds like this was written by a manchild who was kicked out of the basement and is not seething that they have to work for a living instead of getting a free ride like they have been all their life, mixed in with college communist/marxist indoctrination. Just the standard typical seething libshit.
>>722051550>You cannot sue say tylenol cause you took it wrong, they are not on the hook, the warning on it does not absolve you of personal responsibilityThat's exactly what I suggetsed
>>722050896With that being the woke part, and this being the based part, right?
>>722041734>The government prevents me from doing things like growing my own foodwhat......where on earth do you live, cause atleast in america you can grow anything you want on in your own yard
>>722051431>Calories do not cause fullness by itself, Correct, MASS does, and sugar is mass. The same density as every other carb.\>those specific carbs induce it, pure sugar on the other hand does not. Yes it does. You are talking out your ass.>>722051441ANY mass is what fills you, that's what "fill" means.>Almost like you're getting too many calories in the process of satisfying your hunger and your body isn't happy about it.Sugar satiates as fast per calorie as any other carb, because they have the same density.
>>722051927>ANY mass is what fills you, that's what "fill" means.Anon are you fucking aware that most foods are not solid slabs of carbohydrate
>>722051927>Yes it does. You are talking out your ass.Sugar is well known not to cause any fullness. Not only that, but sugar actively SUPPRESSES hormones that cause you to feel full as well.
>>722051397>A thin layer of sugar vs a large lump of bread may have the same quantity of carbohydrates No, it cannot. A thin layer of sugar has exactly the same calories as a thin layer of starch because they have the same caloric density and they satiate the same because they have the same physical density (that is, mass per volume).Liberals do not know things. You make your assumptions based on total nonsense.
>walls of textno thanks faggot go back to redd it
>>722051689Finally, someone with some common sense
>>722051915Should replace the dots with an exclamation point.
>>722051973Most foods are mostly carbohydrates actually. With varying amounts of water, which contributes little to satiation due to almost immediately leaving the stomach. >>722052027>Sugar is well known not to cause any fullness. Not only that, but sugar actively SUPPRESSES hormones that cause you to feel full as well.Retarded fatass mom science.
>>722052130>Retarded fatass mom science.Prove its fake.
>>722041108that you're replying to a post doing the same disingenuous logical extreme retardation is funny
>>722052181That's not how burden of proof works dipshit. Also it's pretty insane that you could even intuitively come to this conclusion, like have you never once eaten candy or a donut or whatever?
>>722038920>If the penalty for a crime is a fine, then that law only exists for the lower classesCorrect. More crimes should have mandatory minimum sentences, community service or corporal punishment.>"Earning a living" implies that by default we don't deserve to be aliveCorrect. By default you have the opportunity to be alive. No one owes you their labor to keep you alive, besides your parents for a certain amount of time. SOMEONE has to labor to provide food and shelter. It doesn't come free. If you can't provide food and shelter for yourself, then you have to do something that someone else values enough to give it to you. The nice thing about currency and capitalism is that labor can be abstract enough that you don't have to provide value to the people making food and shelter directly.>If one is free politically but has no food, what is that? Freedom to starve?Correct. You're free to try to provide yourself food. If you can't grow, raise or hunt it directly then you'll have to do something that provides those that can value. Again capitalism allows you to abstract that value enough you can do something for someone else, which gives you currency to give to the guy growing, raising or hunting the food.Society doesn't owe you shit. You are absolutely free to starve to death if you refuse to provide for yourself. The bottom two arguments hinge on a sense of misplaced empathy. I don't want to see you in particular starve, but I'm also not going to work to provide myself food, and you food if you're not doing anything to help yourself.
>>722052335Yes it is, you made the claim its fake, not me. Give me just 1 study that says sugar makes you feel full, thats it.
>>722052130>Most foods are mostly carbohydrates actually.Anon. Anon. Most foods are protein structures. We tend to eat living things. A rice grain is a cluster of endosperm cells. Those cells HAVE starchy filling, but the idea that it is entirely a carbohydrate structure like fucking table sugar is farcical.
>>722052130>Retarded fatass mom science.Fructose increases significantly increase levels of the hunger-promoting hormone ghrelin while decreasing levels of the appetite-suppressing hormone peptide YY (PYY).
>>722052390You want me to find you a study that says eating food makes you full? Do you seriously not understand that you're the one arguing against the null hypothesis?
>>722052575I am talking about sugar, and sugar alone.
>>722052451Rice has over 10 times more carbs than protein you fucking retard. And that's whole rice, let alone something like flour.
>>722052350>The bottom two arguments hinge on a sense of misplaced empathy.I would phrase it as "feminine dependency". This particular element of their psychology is why it was a catastrophe to enfranchise women.
>>722052608Sugar is food. Food makes you feel full when you eat it. In fact, pretty much anything that isn't actively painful or physically harmful to eat will make you feel full.
>>722052724Sugar is food, but is not one that leads to fullness, read this >>722052485. Sugar actively works against it.
>>722038920>we don't deserve to be alive.No shit.
>>722052575>>722052608I don't know who's being retarded here, but soluble carbohydrates (sugary drinks) are barely satiating because they are dissolved in and disguised as liquids.
>>722052783Ghrelin production is inhibited when the stomach is stretched which it can be by any food including sugar.
>>722052828This is true, he's suggesting that even solid food mass which is sugar (and only sugar, not other carbs) does not contribute to satiation.
>>722047337Nah. Shut up.Just shut the fuck up.
>>722041108we don't have "asylums" anymore because people in the 50s deemed them unethical. and if people in the 50s who were lobotomizing and drinking lead water and inhaling asbestos thought it was unethical then it must have been really really bad.why do you jump to "asylum" and not government provided housing and access to social workers and mental health professionals. other countries do this and it works. homeless people don't deserve to have their freedom and autonomy taken away just because they have drug problems or mental health issues. all of those problems are compounded by not having their basic needs met. you can't even begin to solve your mental health problems when you need to worry about finding shelter and food.and it would be incredibly easy to provide these things. this has been said over and over and over again about so many problems, but the people at the top have sooooooo much excess money. they have so much excess money that could fix so many problems if it was just distributed into social services. we don't even need to tax the rich, although that would be an amazing start. we could just pull a teensy bit of money out of our $800 billion defense budget and direct it towards social welfare. or bill gates could buy another 300 yachts, and we could send several billion to israel i guess, and just fuck the homeless let them rot away in a gulag where nobody has to see them because they didn't pull themselves up by their bootstraps and made me uncomfortable because i had to look at them and be around them.
>>722053198>other countries do this and it worksOther countries don't have to lifeguard the rest of the fucking world pro bono.
>>722053198let me show you a fun chart
>>722053198>why do you jump to "asylum" and not government provided housingBecause they will just destroy it. These people are unwilling and/or unable to live independently. >other countries do this and it works.No it does not.>homeless people don't deserve to have their freedom and autonomy taken away just because they have drug problems or mental health issues. Yes they do deserve it, but more importantly, there's no other option. Any autonomy you give them will be bent towards vice and destruction.>this has been said over and over and over again about so many problems, but the people at the top have sooooooo much excess money.You haven't even the faintest fucking clue how much the programs you suggest would cost.
>>722048425To everyone with any kind of education it is undeniable that you do not have one. You are making up your own facts and believing them. If you expect everyone else to believe your facts than you are too far gone to ever come back. Good luck.
>>722038920>I DESERVE food thus other people MUST supply it to meFailed lifeform nigger logic
>>722053198conservatives are so desperate to eat shit and lick boots they harp on and on about "magic money" when the source of this "magic money" is obvious and there would be zero societal impact to anyone except the uber rich from tapping into it for social welfare.i think its because in the backs of their minds they secretly think one day they will become the next jeff bezos.
>>722053457I have a doctorate in biomedical science. You might have a bachelors in coffee brewing.
isn't it kind of sad that people are so rabidly defending the establishment of a failed system?
>>722039049The bait is that those lines were never in the game.
>>722038920>agreed for the most part, only edgecases disagree>but that's true, because you have to produce SOMETHING - anything - in order to contribute to existence. Whether that's society or the ecosystem. Dogs don't get fed just by sitting there. They're either cute enough to get fed or they go find some food.>I'd rather be free to starve than fed but controlled.
>>722039017>antiworkThere are anti-class and anti-off-hand government. It's not against the concept of working.
>>722053546If you took all of jeff bezos's wealth and liquidated all of it and magically did so at its nominal value (in practice you can't, he's actually worth much less than his nominal wealth, much more so for someone like elon musk), you would have enough money to fund the federal government's current expenditures for 12 days.
>>722052350>Point 2 and 3Wrong, actually. You are correct that in a vacuum no man owes you something personally. But we do not live in a vacuum. We live, all memes aside, in a society. And living in a society comes with great benefits, but also with obligations. Because our brave ancestors realized that not every person could provide for themselves, all the time. That's why we started tribes and villages. If an ancient hunter broke a leg, he would have died if it was "no one owes you nothing". But the tribe comes together, and the tribe provides. You say "only your parents for a certain time", but in actuality it is everyone a little, all of the time. Just more when you are young, when you are sick, and when you are old. It is not a misplaced sense of empathy. That's a modern alpha male cuck philosophy sold to you by tate-style faggots who want you to join their $5000 discord course. Apes together strong. You think you owe society nothing? Nigger you can never repay what society gave you. The fact that you can fucking read and write, is a miracle of society. Nobody had to teach you that. You could have become a truck driver without knowing long division. Every day, everything you touch has been created and provided by your community. Invented by your and their ancestors, Every skill you have, comes from them. You take all of these for granted, and only consider the direct material goods (food/shelter) as handouts. Without society, you'd still be a monkey in a tree. And even those monkeys help each other out.If your ancestors could hear you call what they provided to you "misplaced empathy" they would spit on you. You dishonor where you come from. Giving to your society is the most patriotic thing you can fucking do in your entire life.
>>722053198Asylums were closed in the 80s.And no it doesnt "work" in other countries any better than it does in america, except that in some of those countries they are still allowed to institutionalize insane people, where as we cannot.People homeless in america are homeless by choice. There are a billiona and one programs to solve their problems. They can get free meds. They can get free healthcare. They can get free therapy. They can get free addiction treatment. They can get free housing. They can get job placement. They can go to a shelter. But these people do not want these things, because they are mentally ill and cannot make a rational decision to get help for themselves. And we have made it illegal to force help onto them.And to your last retarded point, we already spend about 5 trillion dollars a year paying for healthcare for poor people across every different budget entry, including about 3/8ths of that "800 billion defense budget" which goes to paying VA benefits.So yeah, im at the point now where i legitimately do want to see the homeless rounded up and killed because idiots like you have made solving the problem fucking impossible in any other way, because you have no idea what we actually do or how much shit costs and instead you think its somehow more humane to let some fucking heroin addict run around my neighborhood punching children in the face or smashing every piece of glass or throwing bottles at cars because there is literally nowhere we can legally put him thanks to the dumbass "empathetic" policies you fucking retards vote for.
>>722053691stop questioning the revolution, bigot
>>722052672Anon learns the difference between dietary protein and physical protein. Bitch what is a cell wall.
>>722053691"government expenditures" being gifts for netenyahu, a new type of bomb, and bribes for the parents of boy slaves on little saint james island
>>722041834If all it takes for you to want to kill homeless people, is someone pointing at someone with the same views as you who is saying that he wants to kill homeless people, and claiming that people who think as you do want to kill homeless people, then buddy don't delude yourself: You already wanted to kill homeless people. You hear this all the time: "If they keep keep calling us nazis, then maybe we should be nazis!" Yet weirdly, right wingers keep calling lefties fascists and nazis in a pathetic attempt to go "no you not allowing me to murder niggers is actually the real authoritarianis!" and weirdly the lefties NEVER react with: "Well if you call us Nazis we might as well be nazis". You're like that kid in school, who whenever someone did something to him would say: "I was going to give you something amazing but now that you pushed me I'm not going to". It's a pretense. It's a lie. People who don't want to kill the homeless aren't swayed into it by someone saying: "Boy, you sure seem like you want to kill the homeless".
>>722041734>>This is why homelessness exists. If not for the government, homeless people would build permanent shelters for themselves.And at whose behest does the government fuck with homeless people for?Who installs anti-homeless architecture on every square inch of their property?Who immediately calls the cops when they get a whiff of homeless in their vicinity?If "the government" didn't exist and we lived in the lolberg stakeholder utopia would these people suddenly tolerate homeless encampments?
>>722054019>punch nazis>also, this is a list of nazis
>>722053705The problem is that the more society provides, the more people expect it to provide. Its a lot different when your "tribe" is 80 people and someone you know gets hurt so you keep him fed, and when your "tribe" is a city of 8 million and now suddenly we have to provide a standard of living higher than 99% of the world to every guy whos too lazy to work, meanwhile there are thousands of people from other "tribes" are flooding in every year because we have decided we have some kind of obligation to provide for them too.Realistically, a modern society should provide the basic infrastructure for modern life (running water, roads, an electrical grid), provide for personal safety (ambulance, fire service, police, army), provide a minimal education so that you can read and write, do math, and have a basic understanding of your countries history, and maybe administer an old age pension so that old people dont get absolutely fucked over.Beyond that, it really is the responsibility of your "tribe" to support you, not the millions of fellow citizens you happen to share a country with.
>>722038920>By default we don't deserve to be aliveThat's how it works in nature yes.
>>722041943Shit take. Homeless people exist because they lost their homes. Sometimes they lose them because of mental illness, sometimes mental illness comes after. In america there are millions of people who are just a few missed paychecks away from being homeless. Once you are homeless it's a fucking death spiral. Because it's incredibly hard to land a job while homeless. And then once you are homeless, how many days, weeks can you sit on the fucking street, or try to wash car windows for change before you give in and have a beer? No internet, no tv, no fucking books to read, and someone hands you something to smoke that'll make the fucking boredom go away? How long can you resist it? And then once you are a druggie, any mental issues get worse. You're treated like shit by everyone who sees you, to most people homelesness happens and that's the start of the spiral. If it was as easy as "oh this guy is mentally ill so he'll be homeless" we'd have found a solution decades ago.
>>722053705These morons are all hopped up on angloid hyper individualism gas. They believe in social Darwinism but are too stupid to see that humanity evolved through group survival and not as atomized individuals
>>722040421Polniggers just seek to polnigg, that is it, gotta be a good little culture war crusader
>>722054019> Yet weirdly, right wingers keep calling lefties fascists and nazisIt's because the American left is only left relative to the American right. From a European perspective, the *are* national socialists, so calling them Nazis isn't incorrect, they're just closer to Strasser than the Mussolini-wannabes most of the American far-right devolves into (which isn't unique to the US, most South American dictators act in a similar fashion.)
>>722053860No, its all medicare and social security. Those dwarf every single other budget item. "A new bomb" that costs 160k dollars would alternatively buy about 1 second of medicare.
>>722053817>Bitch what is a cell wall.A tiny, tiny fraction of the total volume of the cell, and also mostly not protein
>>722054452Weird how every other developed country on earth can afford universal healthcare but not us, it's just impossible.Hey... don't you still need to pay for private healthcare anyway? Private healthcare that has perverse incentives to make it unaffordable without insurance and has to generate profit for shareholders that come at the expense of their customers?
>>722053198on the other hand, the government will mercilessly take the freedom away of random young kids even if they don't have mental illness issues, and even give them the issues through brainwahsing and meds that fucks their brainits an upside down world
>>722053776>And no it doesnt "work" in other countries any better than it does in americaplease research the "Housing First" initiative in Finland among the countless other similar programs in modern welfare states>>722053445>You haven't even the faintest fucking clue how much the programs you suggest would cost.and prisons and police raids on homeless camps are cheap? whatever it costs i know it can be done. ive never once heard a convincing argument for how there are so many countries with robust social welfare programs but america, supposedly one of the richest and most powerful countries in the world, can not afford it.
>>722054221Anon that's all nonsense. Yes, with tribes of millions some people might be abusing the system, but frankly: So what? Since a single mans labor can provide enough for quite a few people, at those numbers the tribe will have enough to not worry about some shitty individuals who are not contributing even though they could. Hell, it can even be someones job to make sure that everyone is contributing their share if you have a hardon for that. But what do you think sounds better overall: A system where if you have an accident running your self sufficient farm, you might as well eat your shotgun, because you're not gonna be able to provide any more? Or a system where if you break your back, someone will give you a wheelchair, food and shelter but also some assholes abuse the system?A system where if you grow too old to work, but you didn't have any children, you just die like a dog? A community that takes care of it's elders, but has the occasional pension scammer? Yeah, the system has flaws. But so does yours. and so does every other system. You are being (unintentionally) dishonest by pointing out the flaws in a society, while ignoring the flaws in "every man for himself".Not to mention that all the good rules "do not murder" "do not steal" "Do not fuck someone elses wife unless he has a weird fetish thing going on, and even then honestly if she's hot maybe hit it like once and then get out of there because they always end up being super weird" are just purely societal contracts. Build on empathy. "You don't do that to me, I don't do that to you". Empathy has been made a bad word by culture war faggots who want you on their side. But it's what makes us great. You can't have a nation, you can not have a group without empathy.
>>722054761>the nordic examplelel
>>722053776Actually the 850 billion doesnt include the 350 billion VA budget.
>>722049430Then try bartering with the farmers, you help them with your hands and they help you not starve
>>722054912i'm not getting baited into talking about immigrants the point is that these services are known to work and have been massive successes in reducing rates of recidivism, homelessness, and crime while also greatly increasing rates of rehabilitation.
>>722054912>poor people pay less in taxeswow!
Yeah, I wish these stupid animals would just die and toss themselves into the oven for me. I am human after all!
>>722055118>known to work*in homogeneous nordic countries, some exceptions may apply, not redeemable for cash value>>722055201>poor kids are just as smart as white kids
>>722039049MY MAN IS BASEDTHAT WHORE WAS PROBABLY A GIPSY, AS WELL HER DISGUSTING BROTHER
>>722054912>2018>right around the time there was a migrant crisis in Europe.NO?! You're telling me asylum seekers and migrants fleeing their countries, who are less likely to speak the same language take a few years longer to contribute to public finances the same way as people who are born there, or come from neighbouring, non-war torn country? Fuck me, that's crazy! Wild! It has been documented many times, that migrants are in initial strain on a countries finances, and then become a long term benefit.
>>722055363>and their descendantscope
>>722041108Dude I fucking blew up on some leftist a few days ago at work when I called this one thing "retarded". He was like "erm, hey, don't say that word man, it's offensive". I looked around, and it was just us there. I looked at him, confused, saying "who the fuck are you trying to impress here? There's NO ONE HERE TO GET OFFENDED. Stop getting offended FOR other people, fuck".I fucking hate this preformative "good guy" routine that leftists do all the damn time. Sorry, a woman isn't going to overhear you and think "wow, what a good person he is!". A retard isn't lurking around the corner who will go up to you and say "ThAngg YuoOOooo for defendwing M-m-MYyyy HhhonorR!"
>>722045259Siberia has a lot of free land, russia is literally giving it out because nobody wants to live there>But le piss freezes before it touches the groundYeah, that's why nobody wants to live there.you can also own a few pots with dirt in them if you have a house.Or do >>722055118Overall you can get very creative if you're not allergic to work
>>722038920i dont understand why people just dont get jobs lmaolike nigga work, get money and then do what you wantim a fucking low iq beaner and i still realized and did this
>>722038920nobody should die because they can't work, but it should improve your lifewe need UBI now btw
>>722038920>"Earning a prey" implies that by default hunters don't deserve to kill their game
>>722051785landlord? jewish concept
>>722053198>homeless people don't deserve to have their freedom and autonomy taken away just because they have drug problems or mental health issuesWhen they start to become a nuisance to everyone around them, they 100% do deserve to have their freedom taken away from them.I'm all for helping them, but it has to be forcibly. Build a compound OUTSIDE of the city. Causing trouble for others or causing a nuisance with your dirty drug habits or mental episodes? You forcibly get taken to the compound. If you're a druggie, you get looked after while you detox completely, and forcibly. Don't like it? Too fucking bad, you'll be thankful for it later. After the detox, you get assigned rudimentary chores to give some responsibility. After a bit, you can choose to further your education, or get help getting a job somewhere. The compound will help you do that. A shuttle bus will take you to the school if you want, or the place you work at, and then back to the compound. Once you make enough money to get your own place, you'll be given help to do that. Then, you're discharged, being clean. You relapse and becoming homeless again? Back to the compound you go.For the mentally ill? Yeah, an asylum.
>>722053198>lets just give people unlimited free shit! that will surely fix all the problems and not just result in more people demanding free shit threatening to riot if gibs are removedsocialists are so fucking stupid holy shit
>>722055363>take a few years longerIt literally doesn't happen till AT LEAST the second generation.
>>722054870I already said the government should provide for minimal personal safety and old age pensions. You didnt actually read my post.The problem with what you are suggesting has already played out. The "social safety net" keeps being expanded to such a degree that as an example of extreme wastefulness, we're using tax payer funds to pay for places for drug addicts to use drugs and salaries for people to supervise them, in some countries even buying them the drugs...So yeah, frankly, this is nonsense. And it is most definitely a slippery slope because it plays out identically in every single "progressive" country. So youre absolutely right to present it as a binary choice. But im not picking the option you want, because honestly, the shit we pay for in "modern" "empathetic" societies disgusts me.
>>722055786I'd say forcing anyone who wishes to live somewhere for any period of time longer than a few days to purchase a home in that area (with a bank loan) by outlawing the concept of rental housing is significantly more jewish
>>722038920The latter point beautifully illustrates the problem with the concept of "rights" politically.I think a better system for organizing society legally is the concept of "duties," which are explicitly imposed upon members of that society, and which when a person fails in their duties, results in imprisonment or expulsion (effectively, isolation from broader society.There is no right to food.But there is a duty to ensure those you are responsible for do not starve. For a father, this extends to the immediate family, but no further. For the mayor of a town, this extends to everyone in that town. Same for governors, same for presidents.On taxes there would be a duty to pay taxes duly imposed, and the government would have the duty to use those taxes as intended.Freedom would then exist maximally outside of where it conflicts with duties, eg the duty not to cause harm; all consensual activity that doesn't cause harm would then be naturally permitted.
>>722039125Liberals are center right and youre a retarded trad larping faggot now go back to pol
>>722054912>commies always cite countries that are literally about to fail because of immigration policy
>>722055363>It has been documented many timesNon white Migrants are a net negative. In the US the only net positive tax group are white men and east asians. Though that data is from 2013. So yeah, it's literally the opposite, it's been documented many times that migrants are a net negative.The reason why you say it's a net positive is because it USED to be true, when it was whites travelling to other white countries.
Huh, I don't think this could be easily refuted
>>722055363Similar studies averaged it out over the past 40+ years and found that immigration is a net negative. They're NOTHING but a drain, and they dramatically increase crime too.
>>722038920I have a refutation. The penalty for a crime does not even exist for the rich, fine or not.Reminder that not a single person who paid to rape children on epstein's island has been arrested. Not a single one. The only time it's ever brought up is to attack opposing political figures, with nothing ever coming of it.
>>722047337>gets bfto'd>"that wasn't me">doubles down
>>722038920Refute what? He's correct on all 3 accounts>b-but muh self-made successful menThe percentage of successful men who are genuinely 100% self-made is so infinitesimally small that it becomes a pathetic joke. Successful men were either born or brought into money in 99.9% of cases.
>If one is free politically but has no food, what is that? Freedom to starve?That is a difference between positive and negative freedom.
>>722040530>Adopts Abrahamic religion.>Immediately burns knowledge and goes into a dark age.
>>722038920>This thread againhttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/721160214/#q721167247
>>722055363>then become a long term benefitnegroxisters...
>>722055667"UBI" will only raise the basic cost of living by however much money the government is giving out. If they hand out 2000 a month, your landlord will start charging whatever your rent is now + 2000 dollars. It will solve absolutely nothing at all. Just look at every single time the minimum wage is raised anywhere. Do people have any more money? Is life more affordable on a minimum wage job? No. The price of everything just goes up to cover the difference.
>>722038920>fines effectively only exist for the lower classSome of the legal fines you can get can be based off of a percentage of your income.For big companies that scales in the billions>"earning a living" implies we don't deserve to live by default.Yes, there's a reason why we kill some people.Human rights are a myth. You fight to live.> Free politically with no food, what's that freedom to starve?wait 'till you realize you are not free politically either.There's always an oppressor, in democratic nation said oppressors are the people and the automated oppression machine they call the government.All you can do is get a job.
>>722040449Had a gaming Tumblr back in the day named little-money
>>722039768TLW also has a version that adds WOTL's localization to the PSX rom. It's called TLWOTL or something.
>>722040530Religion is just the original chain email."Believe this message and spread it to everyone you know or else you will be eternally tortured."
>>722056147The reason most liberals will say this is because letting in immigrants, even if we're giving them welfare, does nominally increase the gdp through economic activity. But even that obvious bullshit is starting to fall apart as the number of immigrants becomes such a high percentage of the total population that its actually not even moving the needle anymore. Both canada and the UK are at this stage now which is why both of those countries are very likely to economically collapse within the next 10 or 15 years as more and more of their productive tax base either dies or retires.
>>722054608It is literally nothing but protein. What the FUCK do you think bio organic structures are formed of, motherfucker? Protein chains. It's all fucking protein chains.
>>722056173SHE
>>722041393its real empathy. they genuinely support the ingroup destroying the other and feel real sorrow when the other destroys the ingroup. you need to understand that their emotions are real, and really wrong.
>>722043687>The average homeless person does not kill or rapeI'm pretty sure that according to modern rape statistics the average person rapes, full stop.
>>722038920These quotes aren't in the game. Life requires effort to sustain. If you either don't exert effort or someone else doesn't exert effort for you, you will starve. Scavenging, hunting, fishing, farming, all requires effort. The default for life is you must exert effort or you will not survive.Being a slave because you can eat is resigning to be a slave. It is better to be free with risk and hardship than a slave. If you disagree, I will feed you in return for being a slave. This also contradicts the second statement.
>>722057873>>Life requires effort to sustain.yeah about 100x less than we waste
>>7220501451. Depends on what I see from a quick glance on the track. Is it Blacks and a Young Blonde Woman on the other? Save the blonde always. Is it 5 baby boomers and one 20/30s man? Save the man. Is it 5 Indians on one set and a Jew on the other? Move the Jew with the Indians. If I cannot identify due to them being completely covered (unlikely), I will ask observe where I am at in the world. If I am in a majority White area I will save the 5, if it is a majority non white I will save the minority. It isn't perfect (the 5 in a black community could be a persecuted white minority. Though violent blacks don't have the patience to tie people to train tracks and wait around all day, they are more likely to kill them directly.2. No. I will look the other way if the 5 people he saves are young white people. If the 5 people he is saving are non white or elderly they have to die. 3. As a firefighter I would save the 5 unless the severely wounded one is White and young. If it's 5 nigs maybe i make the case to save just one nig so 5 nigs die as a result of me giving my attention to the one.
>>722057873The type of people who make these quotes are inevitably the guys who sink to shameless frenzied REEEEEE'ing when their countrymen, tired of the continuous insecurity of their futures, inevitably trade their freedom for the hope of something to fucking eat
>>722038920Cost of living is really just the cost to stay alive
>>722058423#whoa #deep #wow
>>722050145>Question 3This is literally the reason why triage was invented Socrates, get the fuck out of here
What the fuck is even this thread. White people were a mistake
>>722038920> First point, correct.> Second point, nah man, you are alive, nobody is preventing you from dying.> Third point, you can always find some sort of job that feeds you, volunteering etc and such.Oh my, brainlet commie takes the last two.
>>722054870crazy if that mayo monkey bitch on the train had less empathy for niggers she would be aliveracism saves livesempathy kills
>>722056147>>722056386>it is estimated that by the early 1990s racial preferences in schooling and employment were costing the US $350 billion per year in imposed inefficiencies, which in 2023 is equivalent to roughly $1 trillion per year, and the regulatory situation has become demonstrably worse over the intervening three decades>the contemporary cost is likely double that estimate>blacks receive welfare at a rate three times that of whites>blacks commit violent crime at a rate 20 times that of whites>black slums across the US have collectively received the equivalent of a state and federal Marshall Plan once every three years since the 1960s, amounting to a trillion dollars (2023 normalized) of support over every generationI think we should bring as many of these people into our societies as we possibly can. Yes, I'm Jewish, how did you know?
the true [color]pill is realizing humans aren't meant to be living in tribes of millions and above
>/v/ has never refuted thisANIMALS HAVE NO RIGHTS
>>722059625Yeah, capitalism is too good
>>722038920You know these thoughts are worthless when they have to be superimposed on a FFT template for anyone to take them seriously.
>>722059304Yep that's why indians like you are cooked already and we are sending you back.
>>722041190>Every crime is now punishable by deathDoes this make for a more stable society?Does this make for a more productive society?Does this make for a more happy society?
>>722050415Not advocating for it, but that would ease the cost of public welfare TREMENDOUSLY.
>>722040385forced to play latest wokeflop on stream or in public
>>722038920>play FFT for the first time because everyone talks about how great it is>figured it was some generic story about rebelling against a tyrannical monarch based on the fake screenshots everywhere>it's actually about a group of nobles putting down a violent peasant rebellion thats being influenced by Satan worshipping elites
>>722055363Yeah that might have been documented in the Irish and Italian and Chinese man but not in the niggerman
>>722059660How do I respond to this without sounding mad?
>>722044575>So how is that going to work when im fighting against jeets who will work way lower wages than i could ever survive on?No one is obligated to give you """"quality of life"""" you think you """"deserve"""". The fact that you need twice as much amenities to survive compared to an indian doesn't make you better, it makes you weaker. If you're so scared of replacement, maybe you should start by providing a better dollar value per hour of work for your employer.
>Delita, a commoner, fight tooth and nail to get what he wants>Wiegraf posts "eat the rich" on twitter and then switch sides the moment he gets a bit of power and moneyDamn
>>722055363>migrants are in initial strain on a countries finances, and then become a long term benefit*Laughs in 4 generations of Somalis on benefits*
>>722059730based, european nations & societies for the europeans
>>722041734Yeah in a white country. Back when we had homelessness in the nordics there were secret log cabin villages in the woods where people just went and built them with no permits. Some hobos would build wood huts near dumps and salvage stuff people threw away. But we're talking about subspecies of man that have it in their nature to build, not the other subspecies that always flood to the cities because that's where the drugs and the chance for anonymous crime is. We all know this.
>>722038920It's not my fault you're poor.Blame yourself or God.
>>722047238Hell yeah, baby.Imagine getting to throw poo-poo and tomatoes at Larry Fink, lmao.
>>722044972that pic is refuted by the fact we have decades of good, fun games made by straight white and yellow men who dont care for your lefturd bolshevoid mental gymnastics retardation. you worthless cunts have infested western cultural output and the solution is telling you worthless ugly leftist nigger faggot kike cunts to fuck off
>>722040530>adopt religion in 1000 AD >nothing happens for 600 years >reach the Enlightenment >go from horse and carriages to fighter jets in 200 years
>>722061821Maybe you should ask the muslims why that is
>>722061938I can't believe the muslims were hoarding the secrets of the steam engine.
>>722050145What are the races of every person in your hypotheticals
>>722047961My exact thoughts.
>>722058423Cost of living goes up because you are forced to subsidise the power companies “pollution”It affect everything in your life
>>722044972i see youre trying to resurrect this failed gaslighting campaign
>>722059731>>Every crime is now punishable by deathgood thing no one is arguing for that
>>722060273Underrated post
>>722038920The first is correct and a problem The other two are correct and not problems. No you don't deserve to live because your dad fucked your mom. You're not God's special boy living in the garden of Eden. You're an animal equipped by nature to survive and if you want to survive you have to fucking do something.Commies seriously think food just appears magically in their fridge?
>>722039125/pol/niggers are an embarrassment
>>722056173>Why do creatives and accademics widely disagreeWho is funding these institutions? The state or someone else?Checkmate 4eyes
>>722062456This but without the /pol/ part.
>>722044493have a good relationship with your parents or take up something that doesnt require physical labor"labor" is just a blanket term for an activity that produces something of value
>>722062269I know.It was a genuine hypothetical.What do you think the answer to each question would be, if it were to happen.
>>722061821retards like you are a perfect example of why Renaissance liberalism was a mistakethe privileges of liberty are wasted on lesser men
those are incredible leaps of logicprops for coming up with them but they ignore basic intrinsic facts to come to preposterous conclusion about how society works
>>722062456you have to go back
>>722053776>They can get free meds.They can *apply for* free meds. And even if you get in a lot of shit isn't covered.>They can get free healthcare.If you get shot and are about to die, then fair enough. Any other case? Lmao>They can get free therapy.See above>They can get free addiction treatment.Fair enough.>They can get free housing.Can compete for free housing with a million immigrants and single moms.>They can get job placement.What, like in job corps? That gets shut down every other month. And there's a queue too.They can go to a shelter.Which have capacity limits and are full of druggies and felons who steal your shit.I don't think you know what it's like to be homeless in America. You are aware plenty of poor people still die of starvation and exposure all the time, right? Not counting infections and trench foot and shit.
>>722059731Now define crime
>>722057450Agreed.
>>722063334Law. Flexible concept huh?Let's say: the violation of any law currently in place in... let's say the UK, should be funny.Also for the purpose of this exercise, assume that no laws will be added, modified, or removed for the next decade - only currently existing laws can be enforced.Same questions as the top of the postchain.What happens to UK society during that 10 year period?
>>722048425>Just eat less, and you'll find you're not hungry anymore after a couple minutes.I did this for 6 months straight and it didn't work. No, I didn't cheat on it, I lost 40 pounds, I was just toughing out the hunger which never ever went away.
>>722063941wat
>>722064060If every crime in the UK was punished with summary execution, how would the UK's society change?For the purpose of this thought exercise, we're only considering laws that exist at the time of this post.
>>722064317>Same questions as the top of the postchain.>If every crime in the UK was punished with summary executionBut... the top of the postchain isn't in favor of summary executionwtf are you babbling about
>>722064484Look man, I'm fuckin tired.Answer the question damn you!
>>722064681If the UK killed people for minor offences and laws didn't change for 10 years...?It'd go to shit?What's this thought exercise meant to prove
>>722043126NO U
>>722051921>neighbour association deathsquad starts ringing your bell
>>7220389201 is alright2 is out of the context that "living" is meant as "living in this society"3 is buttfuck retarded and forgets how you'd fare if you were born into the forest with a dead mother - correct you'd end up dead.Yes, capitalistic society loves to enforce slavery. Yes, that's still better than no society at all. No, gommunism is not better. What you're supposed to learn that we need society, but we also need to struggle and strife to make it the best we can.
>>722040581Unironically. Reminder, TPUSA is a hyper capitalist oligarchy group.
>>7220389201. Not true. Social Stigma is much worse for the Upper Class, because all eyes are on them. Also passing laws and judgement is literally the primary socio-biological mission of the Upper Classes. Why do you think Ancient Germanics were so brave? Their chieftains punished their cowards and deserters severely and hanged them on trees, so they would be visible and for all to see. What do you think happens to a Chieftain, if he is seen as cowardly?2. We are living beings. We are animals. Of course we need to earn a living, we need sustenance. If we grant every living being, which dares to call itself a Human, the resources to stay alive with no effort, Humanity will eventually devolve into giant walking cancer cells.3. No, you are starving, idiot. Humans can't live without food. Demand your king to organize a raid into land, which does has food or revolt to replace him with a king, who is willing to do that. Oh, you want to completely fuck up Civilization instead and kill everyone, who might have a pinch of Noble blood in them, so you kill every blonde men, women and child, kill everyone, who isn't dressed like shit, kill every handsome man or beautiful woman?
>>722051921You can get arrested for leaving a barrel out to collect rain.
>>722066078Where, and on what grounds
>>722039125You can't just go out and start growing your own food. The government will literally jail you if you don't spend a small fortune on a bunch of paperwork and bureaucratic bullshit. Not to mention the land
>>722064681>>722064729...well?
>>722066320A few US states, sources seem to disagree which but Colorado crops up in most of not all of them. And because they decided they own all the water in the system, so they arrest people who don't pay them for it.
>>722065541>Unironicallylol
What are some cool low budget crimes?
>>722041108I can't comment on the leftist, but the homeless guy seem based
sick and fucking tired of games being released on the ass end of the day that they are supposed to be released on
>>722043126I'm playing the game atm and I didn't see this so its an edit
brehs no one is actually talking about the game in this thread
>>722065731>Not true. Social Stigma is much worse for the Upper Class, because all eyes are on themFucking really dude?
>>722039125>you need to work to live>by the way I'm automating all your jobs>WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE THE PEASANTS REVOLTING
>>722070608They literally killed each other to preserve their honor, anon.
is the game fucking out yet i need to throw rocks at my teammates until i can solo the game
>>722070834Wow they literally killed each other that's so awful. They have it so much harder than the poor.
>>722041108How can you get a homeless guy to spit in your face your first day or week here? Maybe you should go back to where you fucking came from.
>>722071117>the noble poor myth
>>722044972How much of the ragebait fox existsI want to collect them all
>>7220715639 images
>>722047454>eat slice of cake for supper everyday instead of slice of bread because all food is the same lol>"wtf why am I obese and dying of heart failure"
>>722039125>YOU WILL WORK FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE ELITE>YOU WILL DIE FOR THE ELITE>Oh, you have cancer and no money for treatment? DIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT!
>>722041108>I physically can not stand talking to leftists anymore. They are so disingenuous it’s insane. When I was in LA I vented
>>722071614post them all
>>722043126Not in the game
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>>722043126Now that's something Algus would say tho.
>>722072440ITS NOT ENOUGH
>>722072842
>>722065226Stop listening to HoA memes. Their not apllicable to 90% of communities
>>722072991are you gonna make me beg for each one
>>722073383oh no i just tab out lol
>>722073480now i think all of them have been posted ITT
>>722044972>>722047913>>722050896>>722056173>>722071614>>722072440>>722072991>>722073480>>722073548That's 9, thank you
>>722071614More if you count the improved versions
>>722044972This beast needs correction
>>722060070Yeah, commies love going "the Satan worshiping bad guys were the good guys because they said fuck rich people."
>>722054019I didn't say I wanted them to do it. I said I wouldn't give a shit. There's a tremendous difference. Leftist grandstanding and generally being fucking faggots to bystanders have weathered down a lot of my capacity to care about their faggot pet projects.
>>722074760nu uh
>>722038920>the social division of labor is cooperative; not competitive. it is - fundamentally - social bonds between people; it is what people call society. moreover it exhibits itself within all of human social life: economics, language, skills, traditions, etc.>the starting point of society is poverty; not affluence. the goal is to explain why we are rich - not why we are poor.>free market exchange allows us to get out of poverty; but you have to allow people to discover new ways to profit (or capitalize) on their own success in order to get out of poverty.hope this helps, dumb commies.
>>722038920Because it's true. The issue is that shitlibs twisted this into "we should let niggers and freeloaders ruin our society because I don't have everything I want."
>>722044972Posting version with only the best (and most important) part
>>722075932its funny how the image still works
>>722075198Dont worry I'll be relatively gentle
>>722073724When were these made I vaguely remember them froma while ago
>>722075932This is the only part i can agree with
>>722076672first one's abt a year old
>>722040084Typical euro socialismBasically punishing success
>>722054609>Private healthcarewe haven't had private healthcare in this country since they historically liquidated mutual aid societies (i.e. open-source healthcare for the poor) under the elitist guise of treating doctors as a "special" profession which needs to be "protected" from the riff-raff.All pushed by progressives, btw.it is impossible to start up a small clinic in many states without a license by already pre-approved hospitals in the area.
>>722071614>one of the following:>unindoctrinated>unindoctrinated>unindoctrinatedNever thought of that beforeBtw are these genuine or just a masterwork in ragebaiting?
>>722038920He's literally right, though?
>>722038920Only a contrarian fuck who thinks they'll be spared would disagree at this point.
>>722040385A fine is 'fine', for lack of a better word.It's just that it can't be a static number. It should be percentage based, so that the rich actually suffer in some way for their misbehaviour, while the 'poor' also pay an amount that makes them think twice before comitting that crime.Then there's also the problem of the rich hiding their actual wealth and earnings, but that's another thing entirely.
>>722078335> It should be percentage basedMost fines have a demerit system so repeat offenders are punished harder
>>722067694Vehicular manslaughter if you are moderately richBaby rape if you are a DuPont.
>>722053705You say we owe society a debt we can never repay, but that debt has already been settled in the way of taxes. Society has evolved to manage such needs through copious amounts of spending.That's why we recoil when we're directly adressed as if we are guilty of the suffering of other people. That is society's fault, and while you could put some extra effort into helping someone, you are not expected to do so, because you are investing (forcibly) for society to do so.The other anon was right. One man doesn't owe anything to another man. And we have become disenfranchised with society. Long gone are the days of a tribe where you all knew each other personally.
>>722051915AGREED
