Congratulations, the Console Wars are over and it looks like everyone lost...We should've been together in unity...
*Nintendo won in a sea of mediocrity by simply making fun games fully on cartridge and charging a rightful premium
>>722067972>Nintendo wonLmao
>>722067213>Xbox gave upYes, because they lost
>>722068240Vegeta, what do the sales numbers say about the Switch 2 ??
>>722067213They continue to this day, not fought by gamers but jeet shills peddling every narrative to dog down all game company discussion online.
>>722067972They moved on to the tablet market
>>722067972nintendo moved onto a different market segment (hybrid handheld) just as the headline suggeststhis isn't a good or a bad thing imo, just a smart defensive business decision
PC won because everything gets released on it or ported or remasters and remakes get released to PC decades after missing out
>>722068330It's over 9 million!!!
>>722068450steam deck, steam vr, half life alyx, steam machines all flopped, pc vegan. fanboy.
>>722068673PC as a platform, not SteamI don't have Gabe stuck down my throat, don't even have an account
>>722068762I'm also a PC gamer on my MacBook
ninth post best post
>>722067213Nintendo won though, the switch 2 still sold well and they still have all their exclusives and killed piracy. also people are making hand helds to copy them. nintenwon.
>>722067972>fully on cartridgeabout that
>>722067972Nintendo competes with Apple first and foremost now.
>>722068831All of Nintendo's games are fully on carts. It's third party devs who are cheaping out.
>>722068893They are cheaping out because Nintendo forced them to
>Nintendo walks up behind the publishers>brandishes a gun and points it toward their dog>You WILL release on game-key card>You WILL eat the bugsBased.
>>722068929>>722068973They could put their 2GB indie game on a 64GB cart, but it would mean losing a lot of revenue.
>>722067213It's disappointing, not necessarily surprising now, because with the acquisitions made at the start of this gen it looked like it was going to be return to 6/7th gen exclusivity. Microsoft bought Bethesda, could have outsourced a Fallout and Elder Scrolls spinoff to another studio; Bungie would have actually made something; CoD becoming an Xbox exclusive would have forced Sony to bring back SOCOM. Except the complete opposite happened and console-homo accelerated. It's never made more sense to get a PC now that everything Xbox is day one PC release and everything Playstation eventually comes to PC as well. The only thing consoles have left is lower entry fee.
>>722067213>home consoles in big 2025
>>722069042You WILL release on game-key cardOr your little dog too
>>722068240marge name one snoy game
Nintendo moved on? I didn't even know he was sick
>>722069094>PCs in big 2025 when smartphones exist
>>722067972Nintendo fucked off to their own corner and didn’t bother participating since the Wii, they realized they have an insanely dedicated fanbase that’ll buy whatever they put out and have never looked back. Their hardware is always a decade behind as a result and the only thing of value released on it is either their games or indie, AA - AAA need not apply as it cannot run itSony found out they didn’t have to compete either after they found the magic ticket of “third person setpeice showcase” which meant they just had to pump all their effort into graphics and it’d sell well but now they’re just continuously cranking up their hardware prices to make up for their insane game budgets that’ll never see a return (needed 600+ million for spiderman 2 to be profitable are they insane)Xbox decided to start slamming their cock in the car door with the Xbox One and never stopped, bipolar decision making with buying a cartoonish amount of studios only to not do anything then shut them down later before complaining their games aren’t doing that well so they’re switching all resources to AI, Fucking; “HRRRRR them GAMERS didn’t like Halo Infinite?! But we spent 500 Million on it and made it open world!”PC just sits in its own corner twiddling it’s thumbs playing literally everything with maybe some AAA companies remembering it exists before shitting out a poorly optimized mess and calling you broke for not having a 24gb GPU to brute force past the layer of dogshit so even if you are vaguely interested in it good luck pal fuck off&upgrade that GPU that came out last month is already outdated
>>722067213>Console wars are over>Now every major publisher is just getting bought out by Muhammad or chinksGrim
>>722067213the last time a console war had a winner was all the way back when 360 beat PS3. that was the pinnacle of the console wars era.
>>722069551that's a lot of words to say "Nintendo Won"
>>722068893>It's third party devs who are cheaping out.It's almost as if it costs Nintendo 0.10$ to put their own game on their own cartridge and they're giving third parties the illusion of choice to put their game on Nintendo's cartridge for 20$ or a keycard for 0.10$.
Nintendo won but it's not the win that was expected. The others just gave up.Atleast Nintendo still has their IPs and still make games of them. It says a lot more about gaming overall than a "console war".
>>722069670>360 beat PS3other way around
>>722069808360 beat PS3 in the states which is the only market that matters
Nintendo is the only one still making exclusives, so obviously they won
>>722069773Winning is when you outprice your own audience in favor of fanatics who will buy your 50$ plastic toys and 100$ rehashed games
>>722068795Cope. Kids don't buy consoles.
>>722069160You're thinking of "passed on"
>Sony and Xbox went multiplatformSo Nintendo won the console wars.Right?
>>722069862>still making exclusivesnot for long
>>722068240>company knows it can shit in it hands and its fans will eat it up no matter what so they automatically wonlol
>>722067213>Nintendo moved on>Xbox gave up>Sony is fighting nobodyIs this guy even aware of the fucking world or is he being paid by Sony?
>>722067972>rightful
>>722067213That was written by a tendieAlso, being left fighting nobody- that means you won. Sour grapes headline.
>>722068409It's more that Nintendo is the only one in the mainstream gaming market.
>>722069985He writes for KotakuThey hate Nintendo ever since Nintendo stopped inviting them to events
>>722069690It means the customer lost more than anyone you Dingus
>>722069935True, they get coerced by social media into buying RGB gaming PCs
>>722069739It costs Nintendo the same amount as anyone else yo put the game on cart because they don't make the carts.
>>722069917But enough about modern Sony
>>722070042It's the better option. Why would they play their slop on an underpowered Nintendo tablet?
>>722070024>Also, being left fighting nobody- that means you won.Can you really call fighting yourself and constantly shooting yourself in the foot winning?
>>722070036I will remember that when I play Mario Galaxy 2 on my Switch 2 in 2 days.
>>722070078so they're ok with it because their games budgets are less than 10 million and they never drop the price on those 80 dollar games
>>722067213>Microsoft lost but is paying us some money, so we can't say that, we'll say "gave up" instead>Sony lost but they're paying us a lot of money, so we can't say that, we'll pretend they're the last man standing instead>Nintendo factually, measurably, objectively won, but they're not paying us any money, so we'll arbitrarily declare them out of the race
>>722069626I don’t even know if EA getting bought is a good thing. They’re going private which means there’s no longer the over growing ever towering profit goal to chase which SHOULD mean the amount of Jewish tactics should come down a bit, but it’s also EA, that nonsense is hard wired into its bone marrow
>>722070078>they don't make the cartsevery cartridge order goes through nintendo and they have their own fees, you can't just pay a chinese factory to make switch carts for you.
>>722067213>Sony is left fighting nobody Isn't that just a roundabout way of saying they won?
>>722069917Winning is when your the last to survive no matter the costs. In this case high costs. This also means you have dedicated fans that will buy your product. Something every company is looking for.
>>722070109Nintendo's tablet is not a console
>>722069551Pretty well said.
>>722070094that's still cheaper and has way more functionality than pic rel. it clearly says you can stick it on your fridge, where will you stick the Kirby air rider amiibos? up your stinky ass perhaps?
>>722067213Just like in real wars.
>>722068240I don't see Nintendo releasing their first party games on the competition like Snoy and Microshaft are.
>>722070378If nintendo ported their games to PS5 half their audience would migrate there. the other way around would never happen.
>>722070274It is. Why do you think it's not?
>>722070378I'm glad Nintendo is keeping the Vitas legacy alive
>>722070034>>722069985Fresh reminder that Nintendo banished Kotaku for this article telling people to pirate metroid dread. they've long since altered the article but the damage is done. https://kotaku.com/metroid-dread-is-already-running-great-on-switch-emulat-1847833403
>>722070464Ehh, not quite.
>>722070378I don't think Konami was worried releasing Silent Hill Book of Memories on the Vita.
pc has obviously wonyou get all the games and the funniest part is that they don't get to choose, you port it or you don't get any money
>>722070452It does not obey the loss leader model, and it doesn't fit the form factor of a portable game system nor does it take the advantage of home console's power.
>>722070537Well yeah, a third party company isn't concerned about releasing on whatever system, which explains why Snoy and Microshaft are so comfortable releasing their games on everything.
>>722067213>Nintendo demolished both Sony and MS>N-nobody really won...
Now it's game companies wars which is way better since console conglomerates are gay.
>>722070327£80 is about $107 so actually you can get both amiibo and still have money left over
>>722067972Underrated bait
>>722068893>cheaping outIt's because modern games want incredibly quick storage that the game cards can't provide. nintendo games don't usually rely on intensive streaming so they can work well within the confines of eMMC storage on game cards
>>722070612>It does not obey the loss leader modelAnd that is...?
>>722070612>It's not a console because they aren't being retarded
>>722070837Sell console at or below cost, make up the difference with game sales and licence fees
>>722069551>Their hardware is always a decade behind as a resultTalk like this always made me realize that wisdom v intelligence is a real thing.Nigger WHY DOES THE HARDWARE NEED TO BE BETTER IF THE GAMES ARE FUN AND RUN SMOOTHLY???>B-BUT BRO THE RAYTRACING THE UH- NEW GEN SHINGLAMAFDORP TECH BRO THE BLUR BRO THE BLUR... NEW GAMES JUST NEED TO LOOK LIKE THIS CMON PLEASE BRONPUMP UP THE NVIDIA STOCK FUCKING PLEASE MY GOD.The only thing a game needs to be sucessful is be enjoyable to play. Stop treating this shit like its a tech benchmark.
>>722070141They're okay with it because they know anti-consumer choices don't result in money. Too bad third parties don't get that
>>722070837subsidizing the cost of the console rather than making 2-3x profit on underpowered hardware
Japan wonNintendo wonSony lostMicrosoft lostJews lostChinks lost
PC woneverytime i use a playstation or an xbox it's a miserable experienceheadsets don't work, third party controllers don't work, integrated recording gets in the way, can't uncensor my games, games are overpriced, etc.dogshit platforms
>>722069042Marvelous did it. What's stopping Capcom?
>>722067213Nintendo and Sony won. Microsoft dropped out
>>722070892>>722070921Okay.That doesn't mean it's "not a console". Why do you think it does?
>>722070859True, the customer is the retard in this case for being scammed by those geniuses at Nintendo
>>722070892>>722070921And that's how Sony and MS went 3rd party
>>722069935true, their parents buy consoles for them
>>722070378You're missing the bigger picture here - Both Sony and Microsoft are much bigger companies than what their gaming business is. They can afford risky business ventures and expanding to outside their own markets.Nintendo, on the other hand, doesn't produce sensors, TVs, operating systems or anything other than their game systems, games, and affiliated merch. All they have is their gaming business. They HAVE to stay in their own bubble, because gaming is their only business. They have no real fallback is they lose it.
competition is toxic masculinity and gives girls the ick. we must be better men and not compete in console wars or any wars. we must be co-operative with our fellow men and share our wives and children with black and brown BIPOCs of colyr. #ForTheCulture #BeBetter
>>722070378>don't worry about the sales of the Wii U and 3DS fellas, let's just keep making good games Is it any wonder that Nintendo ended up winning so hard?
>>722070921it's <10$ a popthey make losses in japanwhich is funny considering how weak and outdated the hardware is
>>722071008Sony won btw
>>722071029>Nintendo, on the other hand, doesn't produce sensors, TVs, operating systems or anything other than their game systems, games, and affiliated merch. All they have is their gaming business. They HAVE to stay in their own bubble, because gaming is their only business. They have no real fallback is they lose it.MerchTendie manchildren are suckers for merch
>>722069670>>722069808>>722069859Wii pummeled both thoughbeit.
>>722070901>doesn’t read entire thing>gets upsetwisdom v intelligence Is real yep
>>722070827>that the game cards can't provideThey can, it's literally just that third parties don't want to spend the money
>>722071029SIE isn't Sony, it's a separate company under Sony's umbrella. If SIE fucks up they won't get bailed by Sony. They even had to BORROW money from Sony to buy Bungie
>>722071115If it's a 10 dollar loss in Japan then I assume it's 100% profit abroad considering the exchange rate of the Yen
>>722071193Ive read the whole thing. I was just complaining about this take bc i see it a lot especially amongst normogroids.Sorry for the miscomm tho
>>722069551/thread.
>>722070516>Green lotionLel it just looks like she sneezed really really hard
>>722071164>Sales instead of profit.Half that console sale revenue, they already don't make a profit on, instantly given to Disney btw.
>>722071164"PS5 generation" accounts for:>PS4 profits>PC profits>Xbox profits>Switch profits>shoes>speakers>$110 wooden blocksThey went 3rd party
>>722071029It's more to do with the arrogance of both snoys and companies like Microsoft that they think they can just buy Nintendo.
>>722071363Companies making slim profit margins is a positive for me as a consumer as I know im not getting abused like the average nintendie
>>722067213>console>2025Any self-respecting first-worlder already built their own PC ages ago.
>>722071379>They went 3rd partyOk and? how does this affect me as a day 1 buyer of Wolverine and Saros?
>>722067213>nobody wonPC won
>>722070901>WHY DOES THE HARDWARE NEED TO BE BETTER IF THE GAMES ARE FUN AND RUN SMOOTHLYthat’s the point, if only indie and Nintendos mainline games run smoothly (not Pokémon they let those guys do anything) then you’re missing out on a good amount of AA, which sucks
>>722071581Steamtrannies still lost though
>>722071253no, it's less than ten bucks of profit on the international onesjapanese ones are being sold at a losshttps://www.dlcompare.co.uk/gaming-news/nintendo-reportedly-makes-almost-no-profit-on-each-switch-2-console-53794https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/highlight/index.htmlyou can even see their operating profit nosediving
>>722071590>you’re missing out on a good amount of AA, which sucksI can't think of a single AAA game I've been excited for in years.It's not a big loss in 2025.
>>722071225The game cards for Switch 2 are stuck on eMMC like the Switch 1 cards were, which realistically hits about 100-300MB/s on a good day. Nowhere near as fast as modern SSDs or even SD Express.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MultiMediaCard?wprov=sfla1
>>722071670Wow ok that's new to me. Really fucking embarrassing for 5 year old laptop hardware
>>722069551It's more>Nintendo stuck to video games and realised that games with a focus on interactivity don't need powerful hardware but still keep their systems up to date with the latest technology, just not the most expensive technology>Sony after realising they couldn't compete in the gaming space fucked off to their own corner making third person setpiece games that were reliant on the most expensive and powerful hardware which quickly became detrimental as hardware prices soared for them ultimately resulting in a system no one wants hence the restructuring and redefining their definition of success.>xbox tried a combination of Sony's hardware focused approach and Nintendo's gameplay focused approach but only had one generation of success with it ultimately deciding to follow Sony's anti consumer footsteps which ultimately backfired with them revealing their no used game feature first resulting in Sony taking the top spot and patching out the feature.>PC being the free platform also isn't devoid of issues as many people are just getting priced out with new games requiring new parts because developers are using hardware as an excuse to not optimize ports
>>722067213>Nintendo games run better on PC>Xbox is just a PC>Sony releases everything on PC>PC still PCPC Wins.Flawless victory.
>>722071674AA
>>722067972/thread
>>722071781Your 5 year old laptop was ARM-based?
>>722071786Isn’t the PS5 nearly on par with PS4 it just has a SSD?
>>722067213>Nintendo moved on153 million and still selling, baby! Nintendo won the console wars so hard even kotaku is writing fucking clickbait about it for engagement farming LMAO
>>722068831>>722068929retards>>722070939delet this
>>722071789only problem is, no good games have come out since 2009. winner: none. unless you own a pc older than that, then you're a giga loser in the negatives.
>>722071791What's the difference?
>>722068450>decades after>winningNot everybody is a necrophile there
>>722067213phones won
>>722071859No its on par with the PS3 super slim fucking retard
>>722071890Winner PCSince PC can play those older games at 4K+, whatever framerate, etc.
>>722067213Onlyfans and Twitch wonNo game, only sub to CIA invested e-thot or Jew funded e-celeb
>>722071980>also on MacOS
>>722071859It's like a ps4 pro pro because power isn't increasing proportionately to the cost
>>722072040>armlolshit doesn't work and the ecosystem is turbocucked
>>722068450Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled
>>722071910Smaller budget, more niche appeal, more niche approaches, usually not that graphically demanding, more complex than indie but not purposefully wasteful as AAA, usually higher quality gameplay than most AAA
>>722067213>nobody wonpc won, there are almost no exclusives, everything is being released on pc
>>722072123Literally, show me an example of a AA game VS a AAA game.Name some examples of a AAA studio, and then of AA studios.
>>722067972n-no ,the shovelware I bought on sale on steam!
>>722071590>then you’re missing out on a good amount of AA,Are there any AA games that don't come out on switch these days? Hell, I'm pretty sure games like persona don't release day one because of contractual agreements rather than hardware.
>>722067213Nintendo won the console wars and the race wars.
>They'll never admit Nintendo wonlmao.
>>722071647cool, PC still won tho
>>722067213Console wars were fueled by testosterone and that’s considered toxic now. Now quiet down and remember to eat your daily soi protein so you can increase your estrogen levels(considered harmless by the medical industry)
>>722070204>Sony lost but they're paying us a lot of money, so we can't say that, we'll pretend they're the last man standing insteadRetarded Sony fanboys eats it up every time
>>722067213>Sony is left fighting nobodySo Sony won
Nintendo fans awfully smug for a company that was allowed to do its own thing without competition for the last 10 yearsMeanwhile playstations killcount is still going up, now with xbox completely deadOnly in handhelds are nintendo untouchable
>>722071647we can refund gamesyou can'twe can play old games on new hardware and reap all the benefitsyou need to pay for it
>>722067213Nobody won? I got hours and hours of entertainment out of watching snoys, xbots and tendies tearing at each others throats over the last 20 years.
>*does nothing*>*wins*
>>722067972>fully on cartridgeGame key cards. Anyways, I'm glad I never bought the Switch 1 nor 2.
>>722069094>Credit Card companiesDid you forget someone
>>722067213PC is the only left standing, so PC won by default
>>722067213PCchads won in the end
>>722072335>I'm pretty sure games like persona don't release day one because of contractual agreementsStill pedaling this retarded cope? What contractual agreements? With who? Every recent Fatlus games releases on everything under the sun except for Nintendo until way later when the only difference being that they have a decently powered system now.
>>722072512I can do that on my MacBook as well
>>722068335Terry won
>>722072578There are no nintendo games that use key cards, only 3rd party.Key cards were made at the request of publishers as a means of cutting costs.Why would this have affected you not getting the Switch 1 for the 7 years before they introduced them?
>>722072512I've refunded Nintendo Switch games before.Why do you think you can't? You just take them back to the store with the recipt.
>>722072743Except that nothing runs on apple garbge
>>722072743are you talking about steam on a mac that's completely irrelevant to the conversation or some gay apple store thing
>>722067972right... >"Key cards: Preventing piracy, reducing the risk of carrying unsold stock. Raising game prices: Amidst rising costs, Nintendo took the lead in raising prices so other struggling game companies could follow. Cutting online services for past hardware: This sets a 'lifespan.' By doing this, it becomes easier for each game company to re-release their games on new hardware. In other words, it creates the job of 'porting.'" — Masakazu Sugimori
>>722072715>Every recent Fatlus games releases on everything under the sun except for Nintendo until way later when the only difference being that they have a decently powered system now.Anon, power never mattered that's the point. Just look at how P5R is on the Switch 1 and runs fine. What other reason would there be to keep the game off of it other than contracts with some company like Sony who saw the data and know that they can't compete when a game releases simultaneously?
>>722072796The pcbeggars don't know what actually owning games is like
>>722072796physical games can't be refunded if openedthose refund terms are worthless
>>722072769Nintendo still made their keycards and I said "Anyways".
>>722072796You can also contact Nintendo for digital refunds too. Unless it's a game you bought years ago they'll usually do it.
>>722072769>at the request of publishers as a means of cutting costsWhat? No, they didn't. They planned to offer either that or 64gb cards themselves. Tendie fail.
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>>722072894They can be where I live.you have 2 weeks to return any purchase (video games included, even opened/played ones) as long as you have the recipt in the UK.My last refund was TotK and Pikmin 4.
Whichever gaming company wins, every gamer loses...
>>722072578>Game key cards. Anyways,I don't get it
>>722072867Snoy never had any power over Persona. Are you retarded or something? It was always a fully owned Fatlus IP and now Segay's since they own Fatlus.
>>722072971When does the GAME returns policy apply In-store? We offer a 28 day right to an exchange (subject to availability) or credit note on our products (excluding gift vouchers/gift cards*) purchased in-store and returned in-store, provided that:The product is returned within 28 days of purchase;You have a valid proof of purchase which can include any of the following documents (except where you are returning an Xbox Console or Controller which require a receipt as proof of purchase):Receipt.Reward card record.Bank statement or credit card statement.The product is returned in its original condition (unopened and unused).
>>722072959Meanwhile in reality they just give you the refund.
>>722073023Because you're an idiot.
>>722072940It's entirely at the request of publishers. Otherwise they would use the cards themselves.
>>722072830I do not buy game-key cards, it goes against my religion.
>>722073028Way to move the goalpost anon, Sony was an example, not necessarily the culprit. Now answer the question, if power isn't the issue what's stopping the port?
>>722073053I disagree
>>722073054>therwise they would use the cards themselvesYou mean third parties would skip the system.
>>722073036one lets you test the gamesthe other doesn't
>>722072892>pcbeggarsHow? You guys alternate between not being able to afford our hardware and this.
>>722068673is steam and the rest of the PC market dying, snoy retard?
>>722067213PC just laughed from the sidelines.
>>722073159No, they'd skip physical releases.Even if a game doesn't get any physical sales due to the card backlash, it doesn't have any effect on people that want the game buying digitally.
>>722067972I think everyone overlooks that aspect when criticizing Nintendo. They're the only ones still offering the entire game physically. This is monumental for the preservation movement. It probably is worth the extra money for that, and the same probably cannot be said about for example the remakes that Sony provides on PS5 the Last of Us part whatever.
>>722067972Old and modern Nintendo fans are the real losers in all this, but for different reasons. They're going through the same copes Sony fans had to go through a decade ago.
>>722073316Which is?
>>722073105>not necessarily the culprit.Who is the culprit then? And make it make sense because this entire conversation you've been proving yourself to be retarded.>if power isn't the issue what's stopping the port?The P3 Demake can't even go past 30fps on a Switch TWO, so how well do you think it would've ran on a Switch 1? Clearly it is a power issue because that's the only thing that changed with Nintendo in recent times.
why does the pc market existing send this board into a frenzy? Is it just cope?
I haven't bought a nintendo product since the original Wii, but in hindsight, they probably had the best understanding of the market.When it comes down to it a console is just a very handicapped PC, the fact that people still buy consoles is solely artificial demand because of technologically illiterate consumers and exclusivity deals.There will come a day soon when the older generations of gamers will age out, the ones who still are actually excited about a new console and don't even know what steam is. Xbox and PS will be over, but Nintendo figured out an entirely new demographic of handheld loving family friendly highly merchandisable line of products and IPs. Sony and Xbox don't even have iconic mascots anymore, it used to be Master Chief for xbox but that died a long time ago. Ninteno isn't even playing the same game as them because it's not a game worth playing.
>>722073035In the UK you can return any item you're unhappy with for any reason, within 2 weeks, as long as you have the recipt.Even if it's opened/used. Been doing it for years with games I don't like.
Note: Nintendo won
>>722071647Even if you want to some how try and argue that, PC still absolutely fucking won.The only one that could be argued won even bigger is mobile, but that shit is a whole other market for cancerous money sponging newgrounds games aimed at exploiting grandmas and toddlers and everyone in between.
>>722067213Is this "GAMERS ARE DEAD" 2 electric boogaloo?
>>722073358Which isn't?
>>722068409so you're saying nintendo doesn't count
>>722073486Consolefags too stupid to use a PC. Never forget how infested this board is with phoneposters.
>>722073297They would just skip the system anon. Digital releases just aren't worth the money since no one buys them over physical.
NINTENDO WONKOTAKUTRANNIES LOST
>>722073316This week a decade ago had Mario Maker in the number 1 spot, the PS3 and Vita were still doing numbers and Xbox never existedI'm not sure what point you're trying to make
>>722073532that's called incompetent and apathetic wagies not willing to fight youthey can't just fucking lie about something as important as refund terms on their website
>>722068409Staying in consoles with only one hardware line and making software exclusively for it is an insanely risky business decision. Everything they do relies on that one bit of hardware not eating dirt. If it does, everything they do tanks with it. Nothing about it is smart or defensive, it was a necessity after they were forced to accept nobody wanted their home console anymore and even their handheld nearly flopped. It's why they're trying to get into theme parks and movies now so not all their eggs are in one frail basket.
>>722073716The entire PC market is digital, its complete bullshit to suggest that theres no point in digital releases.
>>722071890This is factually untrue, take off your nostalgia goggles
>>722070027No, that would be PC and arguably mobile. Both of those easily dwarf all of consoles combined at this point.
>>722073594Thought that was when everyone got mad at the sweet baby detected steam group
>>722073412>The P3 Demake can't even go past 30fps on a Switch TWO, so how well do you think it would've ran on a Switch 1?NTA but do you really think that a game less visually impressive than P5R runs at 30fps on switch 2 because of the hardware?
Sometimes the algorythm throws me those facebook/instagram websites where it's ALL about console wars and I can't believe the amount of mexicans truly fighting for their lives defending their brandBrother your life is slipping away, you're pushing 40 and you're still championing these companies jesus fucking christ
>>722067972Yup
>>722073792No, it's literally the law here. It would apply for digital items purchased in the UK too.Why is this upsetting you so much?
>>722073835>The entire PC market is digitalIf you hadn't noticed you have no choice with PC. When a choice is given the rate of sales is always roughly 70/30 to physical.
>>722073618So, nothing
>>722073921Not any of those anons either but P3R is much better looking than P5 graphically. Not as artsy but one look at the character models already tells you everything you need to know (plus raytracing for some reason)
>>722073921Is the P3 Demake coming out on both Switch 1 and 2 or just the Switch 2?
>>722073835digital on pc has inherent value due to its infinite modularity, you buy a game and it's available on anything going forwardon consoles you're just buying a licence to play on this specific generation of consoles
>>722073775And another 5 years before that Nintendo was selling a 100 million more units of hardaware, half a billion more units of software, Sony had a successful home console and handheld line, and Xbox was actually relevant and successful.Old Nintendo fans realize the Nintendo they cared about is fucking dead.Modern Nintendo fans are being gaped by the very thing they rush out to defend the moment anyone so much as looks at Nintendo the wrong way.Consoles are dead. Nintendo is just the death throes.
>>722070378Technically own the publishing rights to Bayonetta along with Sega, and they let Sega sell Bayo 1 on PS4. I think this is something they might do in the future for the second party stuff.
>>722070378It would be a disaster for them if they did. No one *wants* to play on the switch, you're just forced to.
>>722074014Everything.
>>722074139Nintendo has no rights for Bayo 1 at all, which is why that's the only multiplatform one still.
>>722068240I can't think of a single way to frame this where it comes out as true.Games? Sales? Cultural Relevance?We all know xbox is dead and playstation is being eaten away by phones and PC. Almost everything relevant on those platforms are multiplat on pc.There's plenty to shit on Nintendo for, but they are the only ones making decent exclusive games and selling "consoles" off them
>tendies smug that Nintendo won >$80 games without sales are actually a good thing>8 year old games going up in price is actually a good thingTendies are the perfect goy
>>722072614You can't lose something you never had.
>>722070327What do the $100 wooden blocks add in the game? The 50 bucks amiibos are overpriced as hell but they do have a Smash like training function attached to them atleast.
>>722072512Th PC xbox store allows refund so I can't imagine the console version doesn't.
>>722074315You know what lets a company do things like that and get away with it?Lack of competition
>>722074315You keep this up and the PS6 will be 100% digital.
Nintendo "winning" does not mean winning for gamers. If you want this to happen then you want games to get even worse. You are only making nintendo more arrogant and lazy.
>>722074381I’m well fucking aware anon. Nintencultists are not only generally not aware of this, but then the ones who are celebrate it.They’re the perfect cattle. No wonder Nintendo added them to Mario Kart Intermission Tracks as a playable character.
>>722074129im not quite sure what is it you think a person that enjoys nintendo games isnt getting anymore. Dev times are longer now but other than that they keep releasing stuff for their console.
>>722074129Same week another 5 years earlier. Not exactly how you describe it.
>>722074492please tell us these video game developers that are less lazy than nintendoall of your answers will be lmao tier
>>722074315Nintendo games go on sale like every quarter here in Europe, what the hell are you talking about? I am yet to see Demons souls PS5 below 80 euros though and its a 2020 game ffs.
>>722074519The fuck are you talking about? Shitting on Nintendo is at an all time high since the Wiiu right now and plenty of that comes from tendies.Where the fuck are the sony xbox tards shitting on their daddy companies for NOT MAKING ANY FUCKING GAMES?
>>722073486this board is 90% brown skinned zoomers
>>722074596Not him but hey remember when Nintendo reused the entirety of bore of the wild 8 years later at a $10 markup?
>>722074759You didn't play itinb4 HURR OF COURSE I DID I PIRATED IT ON MUH PC TRUST ME
>>722074596that has nothing to do with what i said. i am not denying that nintendo is lacking serious competition. That is exactly my point. It's just common fact that nintendo work best under pressure. They get complacent and incremental when there is no financial incentive to evolve. Switch 2 is just a milking gen. They are hoping the same exact concept will work again. They percieve no threat and so they make no effort.
>>722074205I actually do choose to play a lot of stuff on Switch, because the form factor is convenient, and the system accepts my third party peripherals without throwing a tantrum like PS5.
>>722070327Nigger are you for real defending $105 baby toys just because they are le epic sacred symbols shaped?
>>722074853It’s my most played game on the switch 2 because fetus game ended up sucking more dick than your faggot father.
>>722072418>>722071581>>722071492Cope pcück
>>722075004Didn't you play Gradius like a complete inconpetant journo fag?
>>722075004Very believable.
>>722071786>many people are just getting priced out with new games requiring new partsI built a computer for about a grand right after the pandemic and it plays everything I've thrown at it, for 300 dollary-doos more than a console it's worthwhile
>>722074759>>722074857no answers lmao
>>722074918You have to understand that to the average tendie the most important thing for them is Nintendo making money. So them charging $50 for a you that costs them 14 cents to make is something they NEED to defend. >>722075080Never played that game. >>722075178You’re right tendie. I bought the game only to win internet arguments.
>250 post Kotaku threadReally, /v/?
>>722075242Because its a retarded reductionist argument that would take many words to point out all the flaws and you'll just turn around and go >Nuh uh!!TotK was better than BotW for the record. Think what you want though, you are really sticking it to the tendies with such bold and substantial opinions
>>722075242it's a really pointless derailing attempt so of course i don't honor your question.
>>722075206yeah i went a little further and spent enough to make my rig VR ready. worth it.
>>722074546What exactly do you think I'm describing, all I did was lay out the facts. I don't think whatever it is you're trying to argue has anything to do with it.
>>722067972what games?
>>722067972And of course as soon as they're back on top they're back to fucking over third parties instead of courting them, with game key cards and limited dev kit access.
>>722075528Mario Kart and Donkey Kong. The rest is coming later, please trust.
>>722074520Technically so do sony and microsoft. Doesn't mean it's good.
>>722073594GAMERBROS? OUR RESPONSE? SHOULD WE INITIATE PLAN GAMERGATE 2.0?
>>722075635Aren't we at like gamergate 38 by now? Assuming "journalists" are to be believed
>>722074670>Where the fuck are the sony xbox tards shitting on their daddy companies for NOT MAKING ANY FUCKING GAMES?A decade ago dude. They already abandoned them. Only casuals buy Playstation and only poor people buy an Xbox for gamepass.Now it's Nintendo's turn, a decade late like always.
>>722075681That was GamerGate 1.38.01, patches, not a full sequel
>>722075586>Now lets take a look at Sony Allen's game library
>>722074670>NOT MAKING ANY FUCKING GAMES?not taking games hostage and locking them down to a drm addled prison system to force consumers to buy into an abusive ecosystem where they get fleeced at every turn != not making any games
>>722072241Everything is out on PC but it still runs like shit with requirements completely disproportionate to the actual graphical fidelity and you have to use upscaling and fake frame tech to get to baseline performance.
>>722075889Post gamesConcord doesn't count
>>722075739do you really want to go down that route?
Roblox
>>722075436>>722075445n o e x a m p l e s
>>722075945Yes.
>>722067213>wokeaku
>>722075473That's exactly it, nobody knows what you're on about with>They're going through the same copes Sony fans had to go through a decade ago.That's why I posted shots from a decade ago and then another 5 years before that when you moved the goalposts.
>>722067213Console wars never made sense. Nigger, if you have to spend multiple $70s on something, you don't have any bragging rights. You're just an idiot.
>>722067213>Nintendo moved onThey're literally the only company left making consoles and exclusive games. If anything, Sony is the one that moved on and will be making multi-plat game on their eventual 'Playstation as a service' like the XBox.
>2025>still caring about console wars>a fucking Kotaku article of all thingsThis whole thread should be banned for being underage.
>>722076049>Just do these random chores for me because I agree with your opinionmake it make sense.
>>722068240I've owned every console aside from Nintendo consoles. And I don't intend on ever buying from them.
>>722076182where's the example?
>>722067213>Nobody Really Won>Xbox gave upWell which one is it?
>>722076223Why do you need one?
>>722076223why are you making up random things that you expect people to do for you?
>>722076235Microsoft has been making the biggest investments in this industry. Only someone living in lala land would believe they gave up.
And Trump has just put a 100% tariff on foreign movies. Videogames are going to be next.
>>722076071You're not even arguing remotely the same thing I am. Don't try to act like you're everybody and don't try to act like I moved any goalposts in response to anything you said because you said isn't even relevant to anything I said.
>>722067213>it looks like everyone lost...Last Time i checked, everything comes for either PC or Nintendo. So both won and it means there are 2 Losers, who cant handle reality.
>>722076210Well pack it up guys Nintendo lost! Anon here wont buy a Nintendo!
>>722074492>nooooo they'll get lazy and make bad gamesThen I won't buy them.>nooooo but other people will buy them anywayNot my problem. I voted with my wallet, can't complain when you lose or you sound like a butthurt faggot. I'll just play my backlog.
>>722076480So, once again, can you explain what you're on about by saying>They're going through the same copes Sony fans had to go through a decade ago.Because there's no point in making these vague statements that don't line up with anything we know and expect people to blindly agree.
>>722067213>Sony is left fighting nobodyIn padded cell? Yeah.PS5 1st party games are barely profitable. Like the amount Marvel took from Spidey game revenue was hilarious.
>>722076265>>722076276Still no examples of companies that are less lazy than Nintendo.
>>722076873>Still hasn't said why he needs one:/
>>722076397God please let tendies eat more shit.
>>722076898>Still hasn't provided an example\:
>>722076948>Still can't say why he needs one:3
>>722076873How is Sony less lazy though?I can't name anything they've made recently that wasn't a licensed IP or a giga flop
>>722076996>>722077024>Still zero examples
>>722075436>TotK was better than BotW for the record.Which is incredible considering Botw was a masterpiece that makes all the games released prior less than fun to play.
>>722077050Confirmed for unable to readS o n yWhat do they make!?
>>722077087Where's the examples?
>>722077075>tendies first open world was super special awesome lol
>>722077109>Still no examples of companies that are less lazy than Nintendo.Ok Sony>Where's the examples?This is why nobody wants to debate with you. There's clearly no point
>>722077050>Still refused to say why he needs an exampleThen you lose.Concession accepted.
>>722076943>says while PS5 is on its second price increase.
>>722077176>firstwho gonna tell him
I noticed snoys have been insisting that the console wars were over once Sony said they were basically going to go 3rd party. And since then, it's like everyone has been going overtime in trying to brand the Switch 2 as a failure because they want Nintendo to wallow in the mud with Microsoft and Sony.
>>722077278Lmao like I give a fuck about the PlayStation. I just wanna see you faggots pay $120 for Nintendos 5 hour slop.
Console wars have always been for fuckwits
>>722077396Even their claims that Nintendo is "going their own way" is just a way to sidestep that way they, them, they are, going, is blowing the competition out of the water financially.
>>722076671I was there with the rest of Nintendo fans in shitting on Sony when they went for paid online. Then I watched them immediately excuse it when it came for them, just like Sony fans did. But they had their limit. Everybody does. Those are the kinds of things I'm talking about. Now Nintendo's finally seeing real pushback for getting even worse. That's all, and I think you knew that.
>>722070327based retard
>>722077396Most haters are just former fans that are disappointed with the direction Nintendo are going. They are constantly closing the gap between them and the rest of the industry.>Open world slop>Selling point of console is specs>Exact same console with incremental changes like a slightly bigger screen or higher resolution>Heavy emphasis on DLC and subscription models>Nostalgia farming with re-releases that are more expensive than the original>Same console again after the longest generation everIt's easy to see why people are just dropping out of the nintendo sphere.
>>722067972>he says as everybody is shitting on them for going full jewish cunt mode and red flags that things aren't actually so great are waving everywhere
>>722067213>Nintendo moved onTo raping Playstation into irrelevance and having PC companies scrambling and shitting out "handheld PCs" that cost over $1000. Nintendo won the console war. Everybody lost to Nintendo.
>>722077619Alright, now you've suddenly introduced online out of nowhere and still revise history around it.Nobody was happy when it was introduced, but if you want to play those games online you don't have any choice.It was always cope that it wasn't so bad because it was cheaper but each company has so many features tied to their own online systems that today it's just part of the whole cost.
>>722077870And now you win lazier games from nintendo. congratulations bootlicker. Nobody wins.
>>722077745
>>722077774>he says as I rage about being poor and outraged I cannot enjoy some Nintendo
>>722067213>Sony is left fighting nobodyThey were fighting? is Concord what you call fighting? I haven't seen one punch thrown. Similarly to how i haven't seen any games.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtG11pmBe3U
Nintendo won, why cant these trannies just accept reality? Valve is about to get btfo by the american government for being a recruiting ground for radical leftist terrorists too so Nintendo will even outlast Steam
>>722067213>>722068240Nintendo won. They are the last ones with exclusives.
>>722078067>tendies legitimately defend their friend’s greedGrim
>>722074129>half a billion more units of software,this is wrong tho. the switch sold more software than the Wii and DS combined
>>722077924Oh yeah, the best racing game, the best adventure game, the best platforming game, the best shooting game, released in the past two decades, is so heckin lazy let me tell ya
>>722073184You're a beggar because PC has no exclusives and go into every console thread sobbing and shitting yourself, begging for games to be released on PC. Understand?
>>722077204>>722077228>still no examples
>>722077924I'm good. Playing Bananza and having a blast. Even GOG is collapsing. People blame Roblox, but its really Nintendo that is raping everybody.
>>722078069see >>722075945There seems to be atleast 10000 games. Maybe the no games meme backfired?
>>722078120>if I call them greedy then perhaps we can get the topic off how little money I have for recreation
So does the console war now just boil down to arguing whether nintendo won or not?
>>722077774>everybody is shitting on them for going full jewish cunt modeNot that this is happening, youtubers and journalists are trying their best to force it for their own personal interests but when you read the comments most people are just using their brains and deciding that Nintendo aren't doing anything particularly evil or unjust.
>>722078262There is no console war. Just tendies who get defensive if you tell them that nintendo's business practices are getting worse.
>>722078262kinda, because they totally did. so if I just say they're doing their own thing instead of winning then maybe I can pretend Sony still has a chance
>>722067972>The seethe this post causedFirst poster-sama... I kneel
>>722073306But the cards on switch 2 do not contain games?
>>722078240I own a switch 2. Sorry a $500 console was a significant purchase for you, couldn’t be me.
>>722074129>Nintendo was selling a 100 million more units of hardawarealso that's because most people bought both a ds and a wii and before the Wii sales fell drastically because of the subpart software it got
>>722078196You already lost.
>>722078091I think Steam is getting fucked because GOG is suffering and points to PC gaming collapsing. But since Steam is private, they dont show their financials. the fact that there is no Steam Deck 2 is proof that Steam is pretty much broke and cant make it.
>>722078262Pretty much. I mean, it's not like the other consoles are pushing the bar and they don't have the exclusives to compete so they aren't everln trying to argue that they're good options as much as they want to convince Nintendo is somehow worse.
>>722078393>man who can't provide any examples claims he didn't lose
>>722077603This>Nintendo is still making 1st party games>Nintendo is the only one from the big-3 that treats their devs with respect>Nintendo still focuses on fun>Nintendo found a nice middle-ground for homeconsole and handheld>"They uhh... Went their own way! Nintendo doesn't count! Sony won!!!"It's like some Famitsu-thread schizo is behind that article.
>>722078310You don’t understand. Their 6 hour games NEED to be $70-$80. You HAVE to respect the value. And don’t you dare criticize anything they do. They’re my friends.
>>722078354They do. Why do you think they don't?
>>722078354Could have fooled me, I put the cartridge in and the game runs?
>>722078354game key cards are an option. all nintendo games are in the cards for example
>>722078436see>>722078393
>>722078460>They’re my friends.Is that why you hate them? Because you see them as friends? That's sad dude.
>>722078580Tendies have lost the plot
>>722078262What's there to argue about? Nintendo won it.
>>722078534>can't provide examples>can just repeat himselfsad!
>>722078580No I love them so much! I would buy anything from them, even a $50 amiibo.
>>722067972No other company has the cult power that Nintendo does
>>722078452Kotaku has been on a nintendo blacklist for years so they take sly swipes whenever they can. Pic related was from before Dread even came out.
>>722078460Nintendo is bi-winning, they're banging ten gram rocks, that's how they roll.
>>722069551>they realized they have an insanely dedicated fanbase that’ll buy whatever they put out and have never looked backPeople keep repeating this when it's provably not true. Thanks for saving me from reading your wall of text by putting this disclaimer that you're an idiot early on.
Nintendo is my best friend, and friends give each other lots of money with zero expectations.
>>722078639You talking about yourself? You've been repeating yourself for hours kek
>>722078650Notice how there's mutiple playstations in the video but no playstation games
>>722078650Blizzard and Valve do
>>722078769>no u>no examples
>>722078310>>722078327>>722078428Ok makes sense, I just thought I'd ask since no one seems to want to defend sony or microsoft in any way, shape or form. I might get a switch 2 if splatoon 4 comes out just because I think it'll be fun with the mouse, which is more than I can say for the other two I guess.
>>722078650>No other company has the cult power that Nintendo doesSony can sell 80m units without any games.
>>722067213>unityAnyone else remember when unity was the shit engine that people complained ran bad and ruined everything?
>>722078789well I do now that you pointed it out, also the room looks so fucking sterile compared to a Nintendo fan
>722078824You already lost.
>>722078824>Waste your time doing free research for me on a highly subjective topic so i can deny everything you say! I don't know how to use Google!
>>722078853For me, it's Splatoon Raiders. Remember that game? no you don't.
>>722078853>since no one seems to want to defend sony or microsoft in any way,Oh people are defending Sony.
>>722067972How many non-nintendo console-exclusive games have cultural relevance?Not every Nintendo game is a cultural landmark, but they do release the odd BotW, OoT, Mario 64, or SMB3 that just permeates throughout all of gaming culture.
>>722069551PC players sit in their own corner playing a game from 2003 (and loving it) fuck new games
>>722078948>no! You have to prove my point for me otherwise you're wrong and I win!Not how that works bucko.
>>722075027Accept your inferiority, consolefag, and learn to love your limited box. Its all you deserve, really.
>>722079027Other than being the CoD of Zelda with sales numbers, what did bore of the wild do that permeated gaming culture? Reuse Ubisoft towers?
>>722079162No, it revolutioned open world adventure games with immersive simulation game mechanics.
>>722079019To be fair Sony offers a pretty good deal if you are not obsessed with nintendo games. It's actually cheaper in a lot of countries and you frequently get game discounts. All games run better on Ps5. Most tendies just stay loyal to their one platform and don't realize other options.
>>722079227Case in point
>>722079305close minded paid nintendo shill example 1
The fact that this thread even exists prove that Nintendo won.
>>722079227Why get PS5 over PC with years old hardware? I can tell you why get Nintendo.
>>722079227>It's actually cheaper in a lot of countriesthey raised the price of the PS5 multiple times already
>>722078401u serious?
>>722079598>google searches
>>722079598That doesn't mean anything. Where is Steam Deck 2? The first one only sold 3.5 million.
>>722079663>a company with the most profit per employee in the industry with vastly more interest is going down because i can feel it in me ol' bones
>>722077774???So they're just catching up to Sony and Microsoft's practices?Only reason people are mad is because they're taking down emulators ever since PCfags leaked that Zelda game early.
>>722079759valve is waiting for 2nm and udna gains obviouslyproton maturation doesn't hurt either
>>722079810I'm not saying that. I'm saying that google searches are a more than useless metric
>>722079019>sony won!>How?>Fuck off tendie shillIsn't really a defense though.
>>722080098why the fuck would be useless? because it contradicts your bullshit gut response based on nothing?
>>722080129A defence and defending are two different things anon. An anon that replied with a tantrum to Sony criticism is still defending them.
>>722080269Holy esl
>>722079227lol
>>722080269>LOOK AT HOW MANY PEOPLE LOOKED FOR THAT NAME is useless because it doesn't show anything. at least post the report that gog is now losing money, which objectively shows that they're going bad
>>722080550That reminds me, I should buy bof 4 before the go bust.
>>722079204Did it? Because those kinds of games were all over pc before nintendo came along to trendchase.
>>722080391brownoid type responsethere isn't a single mistake in that post and your choice to pivot over a possible typo or whatever and refusal to tackle the contents of it prove you have nothing
>>7220798673rd world poorfags have been seething ever since they forced Nintendo's hand in fighting emulation and the news that Switch 2 emulation/hacking is going to take a while. It's like they already earmarked playing pirated Switch 2 games on day 1 when the Switch 2 was announced and got pissed when they found out it wasn't happening.
>>722080550i'm not talking about gogbut projecting their performance onto valve is fucking stupid, valve makes $3.5mil of profit per employee
>nintendo moved on>xbox gave up>sony is left fighting nobodySo Sony won? Their opponents were defeated.
>>722080639>Why the fuck would be useless?Am i supposed to not notice?
>>722080639>why the fuck would be useless?should actually be something like:>why the fuck would it be useless?nta just doing my duty :)
>>722080637NTA but in the possibility that you're not bickering each other just to shit on each other I remember Miyazaki saying he was inspired by games like Witcher 3 and botw
>>722078729Nintendo sold cardboard at a markup when it was pushed hard enough, they just didn’t push the Wii U as hard, those ads were dogshit
>>722079204>revolutionized the industry>like 3 entire games were influenced by it>one of those 3 being a $70 dlc that reuses the same everything lolMan tendies are hilarious
>>722077878>Alright, now you've suddenly introduced online out of nowhereNo. Those kinds of things were the entire point to begin with. You, at best, misunderstood what I was talking about to begin with and went off on whatever else.And it's because everyone just made excuses for it that all the consoles did it. Not on PC though because users actually have some power and control over there.
>>722080794Sony dropped out of mainstream gaming years ago. Nintendo is the only one in it
>>722079598Add Game Pass
>>722078989>For me, it's Splatoon Raiders. Remember that game? no you don't.I do. I'm still annoyed that they ruined that announcement.
Delicious consoletard tears. The whole console concept doesn't deserve to live at this point, let alone be defended, but autism, stockholm syndrome and sunk cost are a hell of a drug.
>>722081001So what does Sony do then?
>>722080840oh rightas a native english speaker you don't actively enunciate intermediary words so sometimes you transfer that to text
>>722080967influence does not mean the same thing as revolutionary, the original super mario bros influenced platformers, super mario 64 however was revolutionary and stands alone
>>722067213>and it looks like everyone lost...yeah. no. lol. sony got xbox's games. it's the second console it kills after the dreamcast. the entire industry is publishing their games on the PS5.
>>722079227Nah, I'd rather pay the higher upfront costs for a gaming PC and get a product with more gaming options and more utilitarian use outside of gaming. Sony and Microsoft blurring the lines between console and PC was one of the worst decisions they made because PC wins all the time, especially since Sony and MIcrosoft are asking for close to 200 a year for online access.
>>722080905Yes, but he also said it had no influence on his games. Elden Ring is far more like a modern Zelda 1 than BotW.
>>722078652I thought Kotaku was dead.
>>722081464>blurring the lines between console and PC was one of the worst decisionsbut what does that even mean.
>>722080685>3rd world poorfagsMore like Americans. Oh, wait.But seriously though, why are PCfags so mad they couldn't play the "garbage" Switch games so much?
>>722080794Sony subsists off PC now. Only casuals buy playstation at this point, it has no actual fanbase anymore.
>>722081648>Only casuals>said angry master racer for the 100th time that morning.the ps5 is selling hardware and software more even every other console.
>>722081512he said ER didn't take inspirations by any specific game, meaning it's still a souls game but just open world this time it's not taking elements from other specific games and adding to it. still he was inspired by those games, which is probably why he made ER open world>Elden Ring is far more like a modern Zelda 1 than BotW.the one mechanic they have in common is hidden walls
>>722081608why would you want to buy an inferior toy to play games artificially and arbitrarily locked off due to some corporate business decision when you have hardware more powerful than any console?
>>722081464I don't think PC can beat PS5 at that price point. I may be wrong. Idk exactly what a PC or PS5 cost in the US. It's still a very competitive price and a good deal regardless of what you'd personally want to do. It's also less configuration required which is always a plus for non tech people.
>>722081548consoles used to be machines with proprietary hardware and architectures. now they're just commercially available parts bundled together, meaning you'll never get any advantage from a console over a PC
>>722081882>now they're just commercially available partsnone of the parts of the PS5 are commercially available
>>722081280They're they apple of vidya, they sell on brand alone.
>>722078401>>722078091How are you people this delusional and or clueless? Get out of your bubble.Steam isn't even in the conversation it is so far above all this.
>>722080908Yeah, they did, they also sold a game with that cardboard and it all flopped.
>>722081874that's only if you pretend pc features are worthless while ignoring that the console business model is to get more money from you over timeaka sony propaganda
>>722081356Nothing about botw was revolutionary. Open world games existed for decades before Nintendo tried them. You delusional fucking fanboy.
>>722081882Switch 2 is still proprietary. By the way, there is going to be a point where Sony/Xbox become more expensive than PCs. With their fan-base dwindling, they have to raise prices to keep up the revenue numbers.
>>722081948you find equivalent (and better) GPUs and CPUs than the PS5s APU in the market using AMDs technology. same with the "magic" SSD. they're not the same in name only
>>722081980There is no Steam Deck 2. Why?
>>722067213The console war is over and the winner is PC.Tendies are retards lapping up proprietary slop on their handheld shitbox.Snoys are faggots lapping up gay slop from bluehaired gamer-hating lefty shitheels.Xbox is dead and nobody cares.PC has all the games and even the most niche shit gets ported or emulated sooner or later.PCMR always wins, peasants.
>>722082080>you find equivalenti accept that you are retarded.
>>722082036>he only thinks in terms of genreMan, anti-tendies really don't play games, do they
>>722067972Nintendo hasn't had (not even made themselves) a truly good game since KI:U. I pity modern tendies who haven't the faintest clue what a good Nintendo game looked like at release.
>>722082125because you don't understand their modus operandithey want the deck 2 to be a sufficient upgrade and that's coming with the next node shrink
>>722067972What are things that never happened?
>>722082151>and the winner is PC.>said desperate master racer for the 100th time that morning.
>>722082125It's only 3 years old. Why would there be a new steam deck?
>finally admitting you lost the console war when we know you lost it 10 years ago with xbone fuck uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA>SO WHAT IF WE LOST? YOU LOST TOO BECAUSE BECAUSE I SAY SOOO!11thanks you cancerous faggots bringing fees to use your own internet and solidifying the cancer that is console gaming today
>>722082228Seethe, consolepoor.
>>722082020I don't pretend PC features are worthless. If you do not have a PC already it might offer more value to you. I am just saying dollar for dollar PS5 is not far off from PC performance. Maybe even ahead. You don't have to opt into any subscriptions and can frequently buy games at discounted prices, just the same as you'd do on a PC gaming platform. People wrongfully do not consider PS5 an option. For many people it would have a lot of value.
>>722082228>said desperate master racer for the 100th time that morning.Do you not find it kinda funny that you've posted this twice?
>>722082175not an argument
>Whoever wins, we lose
>>722067213>>722082151pc won because it has Project Nortubel
>>722082203That makes no sense. When a console bombs, the successor is released ASAP. There is no Steam Deck 2, meaning there wont be one. Can you imagine the whole of the "internet" kissing your ass and you just manage to muster 3.5 million sales WORLDWIDE? I wouldn't release a successor either.
>>722067213>Console wars are over>Entire comment section of YouTube videos, reddit posts, and even this thread alone proving that console warriors are more active than ever.>Implying Sony wonYeah, that's not how it works, Kotaku.
>>722082125Probably because you're retarded.
>>722082432valve doesn't have shareholders to placatethey've always had a laissez faire attitude
Pancreatic Cancer won because it killed Steve Jobs and now Apple won't stop Jobbing, can't even make a good gaming Mac, imagine if they did a handheld kekw
>>722082347>Do you not find it kinda funny that you've posted this twice?yes. let's be honest PCbros are a little too eager *coughs desperate* to announce their superiority. i don't even give a fuck about most gaming. i spend most of my time playind dota on a laptop. lolol
Sony killed themselves due to AAA high budget movie slop, retarded shit nobody wants(Concord)Xbox faded awayNintendo isn't losing any money but is slowly making people hate them
>>722069551Most enlightened anon on /v/.
>>722082616I mean, have you not got a singular shred of self awareness that you're spamming something accusing people of spamming?
>>722082528Its still a business. Private companies go bankrupt all the time. The difference is, you wont see it coming because they dont disclose their financials.
>>722082176>didn’t influence jack shit>didn’t do anything that hasn’t been done before>revolutionary because his friends at Nintendo made Ubisoft towersSure dude. Go bing bing wahoo into traffic.
If nvidia weren't such raging cunts PC gaming would be near perfect.
>>722082050>With their fan-base dwindling, they have to raise prices to keep up the revenue numbers.That is literally exactly what's happening with Nintendo. They sold far more hardware and software 15 years ago. The only reason they make more money today is because they fleece their smaller number of consumers far harder. And now with the Switch2 they're going all out on price gauging because they clearly have very little confidence in it doing anywhere near the same numbers.
>>722082854Have we entered some alternate reality where the switch didn't sell 150m units?
>>722082642>peopleWho are these "people"?
>>722082854>They sold far more hardware and software 15 years ago.the switch made more money than any other nintendo generation. also Wii+DS sold more hardware but less software than the switch
>>722082854Switch 2 prices aren't going up.
>>722082745valve makes so much fucking money that they don't give a shit, side projects are basically a hobby over there, not a matter of line go upthey were hoping that the deck would set out a standard for other handhelds so they don't have to release anymore and they also want to make microsoft shit bricks with linuxsilicon wise there's only been one node shrink since the deck so it's not even that old and rdna is a fucking dud
>>722082924The people that buy switch 2 games
>>722069983Explain the WiiU and 3ds launch.
>>722083053So why are they still buying switch 2s?
>>722067213nintendo... lost???
>>722082924>g305 in the top 10literally whythe click latency is ass and you could get something between a 6x-10x better latency and a tri mode option for $20 more
>>722082125>consolefag cannot comprehend not getting a new system every 3 yearsLol. Lmao, even.
>>722082693>shred of self awarenessyes. but for me it's meaningless. whereas PCfags *coughs neckbeards* actually believe they are elevated and enlightened gamers.
>>722082432Valve could sell 1 deck and they wouldn't give a shit. It's not a console. It doesn't have any of the failings or risks of the console business model. Every deck sold is a bonus to them and they're using it as grounds for numerous other goals irrelevant to how well it sells. It's not a fragile pillar like a console is, which is why selling any number of millions is still a big success that spurred on a slew of new handheld PCs and Valve has outright said they're making a deck2.
>>722083218It's at a lot of AI generated TOP 10 GAMER MOUSE lists that farm amazon affiliate money.
>>722083279your owners must be so proud of you
>>722083140They don't know
>>722082920No, because Nintendo sold 255 million units of hardware and 500,000,000 more units of software than the Switch era 15 years ago.
>>722081848It's a family console. Do you share your PC with the whole family?Can you bring it outside to play with real life friends?PCfags have been talking shit about Nintendo games and yet they're obsessed and desperate to play them for some reason.
> spend 2 decades telling these fucking companies to make more exclusives> buy up devs left and right and put a bullet in them> why aren't our consoles doing better?
>>722082984>less software than the switchIndividually. Together they sold way more.
>>722075889>assblasted that he can't just pirate everythingThe Switch being full of holes really fucked with people's idea of how emulation usually goes.
>>722071789Oh shit, PC runs DK Bananza better than the Switch 2? Can you link me to the rom and emu?
>>722083173and got raped
>>722083524>It's a family console. Do you share your PC with the whole family?turn on family mode or in-home streaming on steam>Can you bring it outside to play with real life friends?Steam deck or laptop>PCfags have been talking shit about Nintendo games and yet they're obsessed and desperate to play them for some reason.Emulates your game for freeCheckmate, tendie
>>722081953>sell on brand aloneso in other words, they won?
>>722083524no one talking about switch games and emulation gives a shit about party games my guyfor the actually decent game the form factor is a downside that limits it
>>722067972Cultist.
>>722083524there are only two nintendo "exlusives" that, as of this moment, cannot be played on PCand i don't see you sheep talk about them, so they mustn't be that good
>>722073805Supporting two platforms would have been suicide in this day and age regardless. In the absolute worse case scenario, a dedicated Nintendo handheld made in 2025 in the vein of Game Boy, GBA, DS, and 3DS with little focus on power would at it's bare minimum be around an Xbox 360. Not quite an OG Switch, but still 720p HD. Their home console would be somewhere around a PS5 Pro (just going by the N64 compared to the PS1 and GameCube compared to the PS2). Nintendo, who is known for their first-party output, would not be able to adequately support both platforms. There's a reason Sony's first-party games have been slowing down.The Switch had tons of first-party ports from Nintendo, lots of Wii U games given a second life. But even if you look at the 2001-2006 era, you can see that Nintendo was loaning its IPs to third-parties constantly. Not a single F-Zero made during that era (Maximum Velocity, Falcon Legend, Climax, GX, AX) or even Star Fox (Adventure, Assault, Command) was made by Nintendo. Even for Zelda, The Minish Cap and the Oracle games were made by Capcom. Do you know what Nintendo did?>The Legend of Zelda GBA port>The Legend of Zelda GCN port>The Adventure of Link GBA port>The Adventure of Link GCN port>A Link to the Past GBA port (oh wait it contains some original content with Four Swords)>Ocarina of Time GCN port>Ocarina of Time GCN port but Master Quest>Majora's Mask GCN port>The Wind Waker>Four Swords Adventures>Twilight PrincessThe majority of Mario spin-offs (sports, Party, Pinball, DDR, etc.) were outsourced. Meanwhile Nintendo developed four GBA ports of SMB2, SMB3, SMW, and Yoshi's Island, a DS remake of SM64, and two original games with Luigi's Mansion and Sunshine. Animal Crossing, an original Nintendo game for the N64, got ported to the GameCube in three different growing builds. It likely cost far less to make these ports than to develop entirely new games.
>>722083738People talk about them all the time. You proceed to shitpost the threads into oblivion wiyh "tendie fetus cult" etc, and reposting your favorite single webm per game that attempts to paint it in a bad light.
>>722083524I play the deck with my friends all the time. Hell, had an experience at a friend's place with a game that wouldn't start on the switch so I just bought it on he deck and we played it that way.And yes, people can just have a family pc. That's what I gamed on growing up alongside nintendo consoles. I swear you people live in some alternate reality.
>>722067213>Kotakuopinion discarded
>PC wonPC’s really expensive now and all our games are live service slop. No one won. We all lost. Both the gamers and the gaming companies.
>>722083907>Hell, had an experience at a friend's place with a game that wouldn't start on the switch so I just bought it on he deck and we played it that way.And then everyone clapped.
>>722083963>and all our games are live service slopIf the only things you can find are live service then you're not looking at all.
>>722082991All the peripheral prices went up. The only thing they didn't raise was the system itself which was already expensive.
>>722083907>Hell, had an experience at a friend's place with a game that wouldn't start on the switch so I just bought it on he deck and we played it that way.And what was the game?
>>722072830>Preventing piracyThey only prevent pirates from playing early. Hypothetically, when the S2 is hacked, pirates can just rip the game from storage once the key card lets them download the game.
>>722083889>tendiecattle>people
>>722083963no, they're notthe only overpriced component is the 5090 and maybe the 5080all the other components are ocd fluff like fans, water coolers, premium motherboards, x3d cpus, you buy them because it makes you feel better
>>722084020No, I was shocked. I thought consoles were just supposed to work too, but we sat there staring at a black screen for five minutes and tried multiple times. Consoles didn't used to crash like pokemon does either.
>>722068274Xbox gave up because they realised it's a dying market and the money is to be made elsewhere
>>722084135Guns and Knights or something like that. Bought it for like 70 cents on steam and it just worked on the deck.
>TENDIES WILL BUY ANYTHING NINTENDO RELEASE>What about the Wiiu?>DOESN'T COUNT THEY JUST DIDNT ADVERTISE ENOUGH THEY WANTED IT TO FAIL IT WASN'T A REAL CONSOLE BLAHBLAHBLAHEvery fucking time /v/
>>722084385So it's a digital only indie game, which is confirmation that your story didn't happen
>>722084353It’s a dying market because they let the market die. They dropped the ball hard with the Xbox one release and have been dropping it ever since. How can you say there’s no money to be made when you haven’t made anything worth buying for over a decade?
>>722084419nintendo of 2015 wouldn't sell cardboard lmaothey know their base has changed
>>722084572Yeah I don't think the Nintendo that sold amiibo locked content, mobile games and copious amounts of mtx is the Nintendo you should hold in high regard
>>722084572I'll file that under BLAHBLAHBLAHWiiu flopped, Labo flopped and it wasn't even that long ago
>>722082745If you think valve is financially unstable you’re the single most delusional person in this thread.
>>722084513Whatever you want to believe. Consoles are simply a far worse experience all around than PC at this point. Their main purpose was convenience and they don't even have that anymore.
>>722067213xbox is the biggest loser in the console wars wdym shitaku
>>722067213>we were too busy fighting each other (((they))) swooped in behind the scenes and fucked us allDamn...
>>722067972nintoddIer consoles can't even play 3rd party games lmao
>>722084730Yeah sure, you can just admit you're shitposting you know. It's far more believable.
>>722084850Thats why I have a PC too friend.Not sure why I'd need a PS or Xbox though
>>722067972Absolutely unreal that any retard defends this shit.>fun gamesHAHAHAHAHA>charging a rightful premiumI legit thought most of these replies were going to being calling out this as an obvious bait post but no. The fact that anyone could say this unironically is truly mind boggling.
>>722067213>Zack ZwiezenMY LIFE IS LIKE A VIDEO GAME
>>722084901>also on pc eventually*
>>722085165I read this post twice but I couldn't find any actual argument.Could you explain to us which company is providing a better service?
>>722067213Nintendo wonXBOX gave upPlaystation became a normie paper weight status symbol and does better on steam
>>722084858No, because I'm not, but you are. Nintendo is not your friend. Your defense of them only makes them treat you worse.
>>722085250Games such as?Because I haven't been forced to wait for any pc release for a multiplat that I wanted to play.
>>722082176You're mentally ill anon.
>>722068893Show us where the Bonanza DLC is on the cart.
>>722085337Can you read nincultist?
>>722085325>Nintendo is not your friendNo one said they were however you're stuck in an obvious lie.
>>722085506Yeah I can. Still waiting to read the delayed release pc multiplat game titles you are going to type to me though
>>722084353Xbox just posted record profits from Game Pass.
>>722085325Kind of giving yourself away as an anti tendie with the friend line anon. After all everyone knows that only people like you saw them as friends and that's why you hate them now.
>>722085705Record profits for Microsoft's game division or just record profits from the game pass alone?
>>722085773I did like their products before and I do dislike them now. So? You people still act like they're your friends.
>>722076397>And Trump has just put a 100% tariff on foreign movies.Sonysistas...
>>722085929You are the one acting like you've been betrayed by a friend.It's just a company bro move on if you hate them.
>>722085557Then stop acting like thy are. You're nothing but an enabler and wallet to them.
>>722085983I'll criticize whatever I want. I don't care if you try to throw yourself in front of it on Nintendo's behalf.
>>722086041You're literally the only one here personally offended by a company acting like a company, they aren't your friend, they were never your friend. They just make good products and you should accept that.
>>722086110You're not exactly criticising them are you. You made something up and someone called you out.
>>722085794Just Game Pass. Microsoft is swimming in that AI money. It's a different sector.
>>722078310>There is no console war.Well yeah, not anymore because Nintendo already won.
>>722086173>They just make good productsThat's where we're disagreeing. They don't anymore. And your worship doesn't help.
>>722086242>You're not exactly criticising them are youI am and you're getting upset over it.
>>722081757>and softwareshould we tell him?
>>722067213There was a console war?
>>722086403Nobody is upset but you. Can you show us on the doll where Nintendo diddled you and ended your glorious friendship with them?
>>722086437Yeah man it happened between Gamergate 3 and 4.You missed out.
>>722086403You're the only one who's upset because you're being called liar. You didn't even try to prove yourself you just immediately started shitting on Nintendo.I mean, did you even take some time to think about if this was even about Nintendo and not the fact that digital games on every console are tested before they launch?
