Pokemania will never happen again
Nope, we millenials lived through the absolute peak of culture
>he missed Palmaniaxeeeeeex!
Gen 5 proved this when it tried to peddle a discount Gen 1 to unsuspecting zoomers.
>>722126285pokemania hasnt stopped
>>722126741Palworld will never have THIS
I still have my pokemon hat and pokemon binder I got at blockbuster when I was 7.What a good childhood, didnt know it would be the last childhood in history before the world ended.Jarring going to the store and seeing merch for parents to try to recreate poorly the childhood we had
>>722126741Palmania lasted like 1 month and died. There are random indie games that have gotten closer to Pokemania than that.
>too many Pokemon nowWhere should they have stopped?
>>722126285It's always Pokemania in our hearts
>>722127458Gen 2, but I still think they could get away with taking all the good designs since then and turning them into a good 2 gens and deleting the rest forever.
>>722127074Take me back bros…
>>722127458Now. Just make regional variants of older Pokémon like they did for Sun/Moon.They have enough mons in the roster to rotate them out every new generation.
>>722127458Black/White. Definitely the end of an era, considering the pathetic state of X/Y.
pokemania returned with pokemon go and is happening right now in the tcg
>>722127861Scalpers is not Pokemania. Pokemania was a nationwide cultural phenomenon and not one limited to collectors
>>722127458365most balanced generation, new designs blend in fairly well with both gen 1 and 2, legendaries weren't full on gods yet and there was still a sense of genuine adventure while the games of gen 4 are decent, that's when everything started going off the railsspinoffs peaked in gen 4 though, not even going to try and agrue against that
>>722126285today its robloxmania
>>722126436>best era of pokemon>best era of anime>best era of video games>best era of movies & tv showsMilleniGODS... we really did live through the best era of humanity
>>722127970Scalpers are a direct consequence of millennials never growing out of Pokemania.
>>722127970>nationwideyou mean worldwide
>>722126285It never went away. Pokémon Go and PW proved it’s clearly still a big deal, its just so synonymous and popular you kind of just forget about it
>>722128067all truths detected
>>722128259Millennials will never be able to afford a house so they spend their disposable income on bullshit their parents wouldn't buy for them in 3rd grade at 20x the price.
>>722126285well yeah no shit. it had its time like every fad.
>>722128259That's just human nature on full display.
>>722128259all of that will be resold at 5-10x the pricescalpers and the poketurds buying from them have no shame
>>722128259Scalper culture is in full swing.
>>722128259How would this be any less cringe if they were scalping toasters or TVs?
>>722128259>https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/oct/18/pokemon-no-go-van-gogh-museum-stops-free-cards-amid-tout-chaosThey had to stop giving away the free Pikachu cards because scalpers were creating an "undesirable situation."
>>722128064Time to pull up the ladder and only produce shit.
>>722129183no one is buying toasters or tvs from a scalper retard
>>722128259pokevestors.... we keep FUCKING winning......
>>722126285because pokemon games are bottom of the barrel mediocrity, why cant you idiots understand this?
>>722129483Tranime poster
>>722129183Simple. Pokemon products are for children, but the only buyers are scalpers in their 30s. Their buyers are also manchildren in their 30s. There is no supply left for the children that isn't marked up significantly.Meanwhile, I can go to Best Buy or Costco and buy a toaster or TV instantly. There is no issue with supply for either of those. Who the fuck is scalping those anyway?
>>722129530please redeem saar
>>722128259Zero kids in sight
>>722126285pokemania did happen again
>>722129483>only rpg that lets you have a customizable party of 150+ different mons>it's bad because...uh, it just is... right?
>>722129796seeing pogo before hitting everything with the uggo stick feels surrealt. anon with an avatar that looks like a bloated caspar the ghost after the update
>>722126285Didn't they say that before and then Bronymania happened? Kind of the same thing right? You never know it could happen.
>>722126285Pokemania 2 happened with go. Not nearly as big but still huge
>>722128259I remember seeing this and the Costco scalpers on mainstream news. This is what grandmas now associate with Pokemon lol
>>722128259This is the pokemon companies fault. If they didn't want this to happen they'd just increase demand, they like it this way.
>>722126285it's okay I can enjoy pokemon all I want thanks to media preservationI will never be separated from the mons I love
>>722130554>I will never be separated from the mons I loveexcept in gsc where the internal battery dies in like 3 years lol
>>722126741Rent free
>>722130060i got to meet and talk to a surprising number of people i hadn't seen since the original pokemania during the go craze. it was a really, really, similar vibe to the original pokemania in spirit, it really did feel more similar to the original time than i expected.it was a good time, glad i got to experience it even if OG pokemania was one of a kind.
>>722127458493 when they were done with Japan and were at their very peak.>>722129483I quit during the 3ds era.>The Battle Frontier Project has Started>>722129796You mean the Gilded Age? That would be shot painted gold.>>722130672Lol not on emulators.
>>722129285we are the children of boomers after all :D
>>722131016based zoomiemillennitrannies get the rope
>>722131016*Shit painted gold
>>722131016>>The Battle Frontier Project has Startedi am still mad. even if i could overlook the rest of the issue i had with the game, that was such a fucking insult that i think lesser of anyone who defends ORAS.
>>722130672>zoomers don't know how to solder a new battery while maintaining a save fileFree information to fix broken objects is more available than ever but everyone in the first, second and third world tosses old to buy new. Grim.
That's because we're gearing up for Kamemania in anticipation for Kameo 2. I mean, why else would Rare cancel both EverWild AND Perfect Dark if it doesn't mean Kameo's getting new Elemental Warriors, Shadow Abilities, and an elemental gun?
I dunno if kids are actually getting into Pokemon on their own without influence from their Pokemon loving parents, but it's still going pretty strong. Every now and then you see kids decked out in Pokemon merch.
>>722129945my avatar is wearing the team magma gear and has a covered face and even then after the change its noticeably uglierthe fact that they wont enable the old models is actually embarrassing
>>722130497They literally overtuned TCG stock to combat scalpers, and scalpers STILL bought up all the stock anyway.These fuckers have infinite fucking money, you can't supply enough to meet their demand because their demand is proportional to the total stock.
>>722126436You're not wrong. Everything went off a cliff around 9/11. The 90's were the absolute peak of civilization. Zoomers don't even know what they missed out on.
>>722134341I'm not paying $50k for your grimy Charizard card, sorry.
>>722134660Brother, you won't have $50k liquid anywhere in the next 30 years. Your parents might, but they're probably gen-X credit debt and home equity maxing.
>>722135718$40k was my sign-on bonus in my first job. No, I'm not pissing it away on your dirty cardboard.
>>722135926Great to hear, invest as much as you can even if you're embellishing.
>>722128259I wish I could find this video I stumbled across once of a scalper getting a card signed by it's artist. Treated him like a prize pig and made him incredibly uncomfortable. I think it was Ariga? Absolutely fucked.
>>722127404Pokedrone cope
>>722126436>>722128064Why consumed the best but we procuded the most crap, why is this?literally everything that comes out now is zogged tranny shit, always trying to shove down political gay shit and it's millenials who are doing. For once, you can't blame zoomies, they too young still
>>722128259scalpers need to be scalped literally, fitting punishment
>>722126741Palworld sucks objectively.
>>722126285For good reasonThe new games suck
>>722126285Pokemania was just remembered because it was the last real cultural phenomena before everything became design-by-committee. Think about it, what has been successful since Pokemania? Among us.. Minecraft.. Roblox.. All of these things are inorganic unfun slop that gets popular because of endless pushing and not because there was a fun idea behind it. All of them are just some degree of "Ironic memes but in a video game" with no real substance.
>>722139208Same reason Miyazaki says anime was a mistake.Its inbred.Media back then was made by fans of the medium, but they had life expirence outside of the medium.Media now is made by fans whos only life expirence is consuming media.
>>722139208The people who hire millenials are low-t boomers, who only choose the shittiest retards, and add genX middle-management karens to the mix so everything is lame and gay
>>722128064>best era of animeWell hold on
>>722129875It's bad because there hasn't been any innovations to the formula for a long time and they've just coasted by with gimmicks like Dynamax and Z-moves. Plus no free Pokemon storage.
>>722126945Nah, Pokémon is definitly popular arguably even more so with the number of fans, but it is not Mania as anyone who was around diring the OG can attest, Even GOmania didn't reach the same degree of collective obsession and saturation, though it did get close.It is like how Nu Star wars couldn't touch the Episode 1 hype (As in before it released) even with the whole Disney machine behind it. Yes people were hyped up for 7(big mistake) but it was not the kind of absurd perversive unavoidable that happpened in the Limited Internet days.Mania is not just about number of fans, it is how pervasive it becomes to people including ones that aren't fans. You can ignore pokemon if you want to in 2025, you couldn't in 1998/1999 (In part due that limited Internet thing, what was around you was what you had to deal with.)
>>722139808Nope but your mom does
>>722126436>>722126285i was thinking of this the other day. what do zoomers have thats similar to this? Im not talking a month long obsession like pokemon go was or something that lasted a few weeks tops that was a trend on tiktok. Im talking truly pokemania level where from like 1997-2000 it was in every school, every kid played it. Multiple media based around it. Food tie ins like cereals etc. Fortnite? I mean sure but i never seen anyone with like a fortnite cereal or a fortnite themed ps5 or anything along those lines. Most kids who play fortnite just did it cuz it was only thing available to do. They werent OBSESSED with it. Millenials have a shitty future ahead but at least we had a chilhood which was amazing. Peak capitalism before it transitioned to late stage capitalism. We went from analog to digital. Saw the evolution of it all
>>722139964>because it was the last real cultural phenomena before everything became design-by-committeeNah that goes to MLP:FiM
>>722132982>They literally overtuned TCG stock to combat scalpers, and scalpers STILL bought up all the stock anyway.that's because they're cheap bastards. These are cardboard cards, they could easily print enough to meet demand and neuter scalpers but they choose not to because they like us fighting over cardboard pictures that cost less than a single yen to make
>>722140536You need to understand while not in full some of older zoomers were able to have a taste of shit like even if wasn't as widespread as pokemon mania. Also someone in another thread just posted real CP so idk how to feel about that. Maybe it's to celebrate 4chans birthday?
>>722140536Is Bluey a zoomer thing or is that too young to count. That thing was on billboards, clothing, fast food, half the supermarket isles, busses and trains, the news, and probably more that I'm forgetting.
>>722140536> what do zoomers have thats similar to this? They have things that are similar but all of their shit is ancient. Roblox, Minecraft, they come home and watch vtubers and streamers playing 20 year old games. You're watching stagnation in action and it starts with the fact that nobody wants to play any of these games themselves, they want to watch someone else do it for them
>>722128259capitalism and it's fucking consiquences man
>>722140810right its more of a "virtual friend" aspect than a i like this game aspect like you said. its sad to see stagnation like that . roblox and minecraft(i worked at toys r us and it was kinda huge) i guess it makes sense why minecraft was a hit(with most zoomers now 22-27 ffs) so i guess minecraft was similar but gen alpha? whats the big thing thats in all the super markets etc? youtube? LMAO
>>722140536Older Zoomers had Minecraft as kids, but yeah it's not the same as the media blitz that Pokemon had.
>>722127458More Pokemon = more immersive world, running through fields, forests, caves etc in the Scarlet/Violet with countless different pokemon just chilling in their natural habitats really does alot in making it feel real.
>>722126436100%, wish I had passed away in 2012 peacefully without having to see the enshittification of everything I enjoyed.
>>722140590This. The pony fandom was amazing pre 2013.
>>722139208women in management and making hiring choices, please understand
>>722127458Gen 3. Gen 2 works too, but Gen 3 designs are still mostly pretty cool. Gen 1 is fantastic, Gen 2 compliments and fleshes out Gen 1's designs really well (since that was the aim). While Gen 3 was the first of the new dexs (more meant to stand on their own rather than compliment Gen 1) it still works. Gen 4 is the start of the trash. Now in the ideal world we then cherry pick all the good designs from later gens and add them into this Gen1-3 super dex, but since most people have trash taste (unlike me), its just safer to leave a hard cut off.
2016 was the last time Pokemon was relevant because of PokemonGoIt's entirely Gamefreak's (and by extension Creatures and Nintendo's) fault that Pokemon isn't still a global phenomenon. The games suck, all the merch and trading cards and whatever trickles down from the games.I still replay HeartGold once a year on an emulator. I haven't played any pokemon game since black 2
>>722141306Most of them millennials funn>>722141306ily enough
>>722126436I feel like the fags who grew up during the 80s had it better. The creation of pop culture, DnD, Pinball and then the 90s, PCs, NES, Atari. The 50s and the 80s are the true peak of modern culture and society. t.millenial
>>722129735>stocks
>>722141657the focus has shifted from innovation and passion to greed and political agendaWe live in a vermin age now
>>722126436this. I feel sorry for everyone that came after us, their youth sucked. they will never have an era defining moment like we did, they'll forever experience nostalgia for garbage that won't exist in the future like all that gachaslop, Roblox and the like. at least we can buy out childhood stuff physically and retain it
>>722141938And then it will shift to spite and destruction, and humanity will finally fulfill their destiny: sacrificing their world and their entire species on the altar of pointless evil.
>>722127458Gen 4.493 is perfect.I knew the series was dead when I took days to choose the starters on B/W (one got the Meganium treatment with horrible stats and movepool+ the DA ability was only available one gen later, one got that fucking double type again and the last was really a letdown as a final evo)
>>722139208Boomers are the bosses and they won't let go. Kojima literally has a deadman gameUSB. Modern day engines require no coding so it's easier to just hire jeets and use ue storeprops (e33, silent hill 2 demake, cronos,etc). Zoomers and Normies can't really tell the difference they grew up with mobile tier slop.
>>722139208baby-boomers, xoomers and joomers literally force every company to make games gay and lame. And the ones that aren't forced to do it, simply do it because the educational system brainwashed them or because of pressure from radical leftist groups.
>>722139208>we>youlmao the zoomer can't even keep his perspective going for his larp
the best millenials have to offerthat will be 90 bucks
Pokemon is actually at its second peak right now. Scarlet and Violet are the 2nd best selling games in the series (first is Red and Blue)>>722142131I think you just described why the issue was you and not the game.
at least the new anime is good
>>722140363>It's bad because there hasn't been any innovations to the formula for a long timeAnyone saying this has not actually even looked at a modern Pokemon game for like half a decade. That's a frankly absurd statement to make after the past few games.They've gone from entirely linear to fully open world in that time, and the new game in a couple weeks has completely dropped the classic gameplay style for a new system where positioning matters.They've changed world design, core battle gameplay, etc. If the difference between Sun and Moon and Legends Z-A is "no innovation" then what the FUCK do you consider innovation? Either literally nothing will satisfy you or you are talking out of your ass
>>722144761>SV's open worldNot even an inspired choice, they're just chasing trends ever since BotW made them truly vogue. It's still linear because capturing Pokemon and obedience are gated behind badges, rather than truly leaving you to your own devices to fuck around and find out, nor is there a real danger factor to exploring high level areas because unlike Legends: Arceus, wild Pokemon can't really do much to harass you, and unlike games in general, trainers don't even initiate battle on-sight anymore.>realtime battlesWhich will likely only return as a side dish rather than the primary meat of a game, you need to remember Pokemon has a reputation as "sperm cell's first video game" it needs to uphold in order to sell to the lowest common denominator, and retards who've gotten to play the demos for L:Z-A have ALREADY complained about how it's "too hard" because they literally do not play anything other than turn-based Pokemon games, and that's GameFreak's perspective on how to make Pokemon, people who have either never played a game period, or have ONLY played the same old Pokemon formula.
>>722140197Anime stopped being cool after Toonami got cancelled the first time. When it came back, streaming was ramping up and the normies jumped on to anime and the culture was never the same. Not to mention the late 90s/early 2000s objectively had the best anime, and millennials watched primarily that era of anime on Toonami in the early to mid 2000s.
>>722126285It litterly did just a few years ago with Go
>>722141803they should put a big block of c4 in the middle of these palettes
>>722126757There was an internal meeting at Game Freak about gen 5's western reception at the time, which made them heavily steer into putting the spotlight on Kanto mons for XY.If that hadn't happened, B2W2 would've included more new pokemon and megas as a concept may not even exist. They were also planning lore across multiple games, where a dungeon with incomprehensible text in one game could be deciphered in the next gen etc. Curious to see what they do on Switch 2 since SV weren't exactly well recieved even if they sold well
>>722140536this pasta tastes like shit chef. I think it would suit lelddit's shriveled up taste buds better
Pokémon Gomania was kino and I'm tired of pretending otherwise
>>722126741I liked Palworld a lot, but that was nowhere near the hype I had for pokémon during the Gen1<->Gen3 era.
>>722146859>SV weren't exactly well recieved even if they sold wellGF only cares about 1 of these things.
>>722127458Don't know, but I can tell you the new designs really fucking suckShit like Goldengo and the ice penguin are the worst shit I've seen, to think people complained about garbodor's line and vanillite's line once, holy fuck
>>722126285It could easily tho.GF just need to get tokyoanimation'ed so a more competent studio can finally inherit the mainline rights.... which would any studio on Earth, even the most dogshit pajeet one would be a massive improvement.
>>722147664ESL-san, even if Pokemon traded hands to another company's development, it'd still be half-assed dogshit because it's a franchise that sells on brand recognition and brand loyalty alone, and keeping the games cheap and shoddily made makes them more profitable because they have shoestring budgets combined with regular sales that often surpass entire lifetime sales of other franchises.
>>722147719>it's a franchise that sells on brand recognition and brand loyalty alonehow do you think franchises build brand recognition if not by releasing solid games people want to play?do you think you can just shop for loyalty at the nearest pound store or something?
>>722147817They've been doing that since Sun/Moon to be fair
>>722147719Anon, patentworld was made with a hundredth of scat&vomit's dev budget.GF's prbolem isn't tight budgets and care for margins, it's pure raw lazyness.
>>722139819^thisRetards will never let go of pokemon and the games will always have more retards to attract.Because these retards know not of a world beyond pokemon and to make them aware of such a possibility is to challenge their very idea of existence.Not even applefags are this loyal
>>722139964Among us: streamersMinecraft: do wtf you want in your worldRoblox: scratch for kids
>>722127458They should have slowed down at around 300 and then did regional variations with only a few new mons here and there.
>>722146859You keep posting this because you heard it in a YouTube video and it’s complete bullshit, retard-kun
Lets Go Johto and the Gen 5 remakes will both be outsourced and they will both be the best Pokemon Games ever made. Then they will release a new Stadium game that is incredible, and then the next gamefreak slop or something. You just need to believe
>>722144761>fully open world>pokemon>fucking>pokemon
>>722126285Pokemon sold out to niggers Jews dei blackrock in 2016 had a gay live action movie with a niggerHas tcg and game commercials featuring niggers It's woke and dead now and a laughing stock so it's a good thing this goyslop will never hit pokemania 2Pokemon also shilled for BLM remember that?
>>722140739How do you think they MAKE the coardboard cards? Does it just magically come out of thin air? Do they have countless elves printing and cutting the cardstock? No, they have factories. And those factories have a maximum output. In order to print more they need to open more factories, hire new workers, set up new distribution lines, organize contracts and leases and go through regulations and permits. That takes a massive investment of time and money. It's not some magic switch you flip. And frankly, even if they could fast track through it all, it still likely wouldn't be worth their monetary investment given the nature of the current market. It's entirely built on hype manufactured by outside parties who previously held no interest in the product. Investing in the means to meet demand carries a very real risk of the scalpers and investors finally fucking off. And while that might be great for us, they'll be sitting with a massive bill and a surplus of stock. The fact is that they're justified in not making a move until they can be confident that the current spike in demand isn't just a bubble that will pop on them.
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>>722148596>We will never get mainline games with incredibly detailed sprite art because GF swapped to 3D
>>722126285Neither will Hulkamania :(
>>722144710sexo.
>"regional variants"WAITER WAITER MORE REMASTER SLOP PLEASE. NO YUCKY UNFAMILIAR ORIGINALS
>>722148468DP remakes were shit though
>>722147664I feel it's a bit retarded to say that when we already see that all these studio can't keep the deadlines. It's very likely that every renowned studio would crumble with 3.5 years dev time.
>>722148596>pixel art went beyond machine limitationsouless
>>722127074I miss the 90s.
>>722148596Is that fucking ai? That's not a videogame town, that's just pixellated concept art
>>722128259We need God to unleash another pandemic to hopefully reverse covid19 consequencesIf not, at least killing them off should suffice
>>722126285Every day is Pokemania for me.
The switch games permanently killed the series Pokemon is dead
>Really like the art on some Pokemon TGC cards>Want to get them>Somehow sold in the fucking hundreds of dollars>It's not because the card is meta or anything in the game itself like in Yugioh, it's really just that people want it for the art so scalpers sell it high>Nintendo never do reprints or super rarely to put down the prices like Konami so the price just keep getting higher and higherI hate it.All my hobbies are getting invaded by fucking cunts making it worse for everyone.I FUCKING HATE IT.
>>722148794And besides, as things currently stand, TPC has a rare scenario where they can have their cake AND eat it too.Scalpers gonna scalp, basically buying all stock imaginable, and normalfags aren't bothered by this because they're been conditioned to install and play TCG Pocket instead, eventually getting suckered into the microtransaction pipeline, with addicts especially becoming new members of the whale legion.
>>722151587I wouldn't go that far. I really don't think there's a lot of people who see Pocket as an alternative to the physical cards, especially since collectors tend to make up the majority. I think if anything it's the opposite where Pocket drew a lot of new people back into collecting. Normalfags are bothered by scalpers, but you are right that they have accepted it anyway. Unfortunately it just means they enable scalpers by actually paying bullshit prices.Either way, the tension in the tcg isn't very good for Pokemon's brand and they know it. They released a statement immediately trying to assure people Prismatic would be more available. If they're smart, they'll be aware that there's a real risk of longterm customers being pushed away by shortterm profiteers. And on top of all that, no company likes to leave money on the table. Sure, they want a certain balance of scarcity but they absolutely aren't going to be satisfied with selling "enough" when they could be selling "more" I earnestly think they want to solve the issue, but they're not in a great position to do so. Of course increasing pullrates would likely help, but I think they're too afraid after sales went down when they last tried that in early SV.
>>722151431You can get the 151 and unova poster collections which show off most of the card arts in the set. It would be nice to have prints or an artbook instead
>>722129875Palworld exists
>>722129875How many digimons are in your average game?
>>722126436>one of the best times growing up as a kid>one of the worst times to be an adultI don't know if it was worth it.
>>722134341Stupid worthless Americans.
>>722157848They're not worthless! If they were, they wouldn't have been as harmful!
I can't imagine how depressing it must be to grow up as a zoomer, your whole life is one financial crisis after another and you never experienced the world before it went insaneAnd you have nothing to look forward to but more wars and misery
>>722158238It's not that bad, we haven't experienced how good you guys had it so most of us only have stories about what we're missing.It's kinda like the africans that never traveled to richer nations, they're not sad because they only heard stories about what they're missing.
>>722126285Plapworld shows you can reignite the flame if you stop making the same slop and make new slop (open world crafting base building but with pokemen)
>>722127074>slop on slopI'm glad NOT to be a deranged boomer with stomach cancer.
>>722128259do white people really?
>>722139208trying to recapture the magic rather than making our own thing
>>722158238Being a millennial and seeing a glimpse of better future is more depressing
>>722127074I remember when a kid suffocated on a pokeball.
>>722158238>>722159695millenials are batman, zoomers are bane>millenial analogy
>>722127458It's not that there are too many, it's that we see the same species/archetypes constantly. B/W were pretty refreshing since there was zero gen 1-4 pokemon till the post game. It could have been better though. I want to see new creatures, and have to figure my play strategy based on them. Fuck Geodudes and Zubats.
>>722151431PTC Live (Not Pocket) helps scratch that itch for me with no costs. You can get pretty much any card if you save up points.
the GameCube is indefinite final specs of anything
>>722140390source: my anusas a digimon fan I can clearly see pokemon obsession is still alive and well
>>722128259now post the mcdonalds one
>>722127458Gen2 for peak high quality mon hunting Gen3-4 for most optimal (more monsters but much less quality compared to 1/2
>>722140536>what do zoomers have thats similar to this?Trannies and wokeism. They're obsessed about it.
>>722126285Good, zoomer's and youngshits don't deserve it
What even is popular anymore? What games are popular? What shows are popular? What movies are popular? What music is popular? Culture still exists right?
>>722163424everything is popular, things are more popular right now than they ever were like including pokemon but its a different kind of popular I guess its kind of fake popular in a way, like pokemon cards are constantly being bought out and scalped by people treating them as investments not because there are a lot of fans of pokemon again
>>722161135b/w's problem was just making worse looking rehashes of gen 1 pokemon instead of actually doing something new there are a handful of good gen 5 pokemon, but by and large they're just 'kanto pokemon but america'the only worthwhile pokemon from the gen are the bug types, all the others could be removed from the franchise and i wouldn't shed a tear
>>722128489I guess it's that or spending it on a girl buying her stuff in exchange for sex.
>>722141748I don't get it. What's wrong with them?
Pokemania never really stopped, just slowed down after gen 1 then has fluctuatedYou can't even say the brand is 'bad' right now, and this is the 'worst' it's ever been -- even as the mainline games are in a Just Okay state, we're getting these legit good Legends games, Pokemon Snap finally came back and other side-projects are all over the place, the TCG is as big as it's been in ages, the anime is by far the best it's been in ages and actually finally trying new things, we have more high-quality merch than ever before, and probably lots of other stuff I'm forgetting or not mentioning because it's mostly relevant to Japan or younger people etc but is still really coolIf there's ONE SINGLE THING from your childhood you shouldn't get moody is "over" it's Pokemon. This shit's gonna be popping 'till we're all dead at least. Though yeah, gen 1 really was something special. (And gen 2.)
>>722159353I'm sorry that you'll never experience the time when slop wasn't slop.
>>722127458I dont think they should have, but Gen 5 is when some designs became inexcusable. Curiously; I am not referring to Garbodor or Vanilluxe. I hate the "nu-Gen 1" mons they do that are 100% filler or as later gens did basically just regional varients. Sawk and Throh (bert and ernie mfers), Gigalith line, Conkeldurr line. So many "trios" the elemental monkeys. The addition of pointless stripes/weird plastic bumps on monster designs. Gen 5 was when the bloat got bad and some mons really cant justify their being. Luckily gen 6 slowed it down we bitched at the time but I'm glad now.
Pokemon is bigger than it's ever been. In some ways, pokemania never stopped. It's just not a novelty anymore.
>>722167023>Pokemon is bigger than it's ever been.on paper. nobody cares about anymore other than the adults that grew up with it. kids could care less about it.
>>722167431Delusional
>>722159812Nothing of value was lost, he was retarded.
>>722129285boomers forced us tho
>>722167914they're playing fortnite and minecraft and roblox (or more likely watching someone on youtube play it)
>>722127074i have all those still.
>>722168093You can play more than one game, anon.
>>722129796>gachaslopyikes
Pokemon is the only video game franchise that has its own board on 4chan
>>722168150>You can play more than one game, anon.and pokemon ain't one of them
>>722126285>Go>whatever the fuck is going on with the TCGIt comes back every few years
>>722140536Fortnite 2017-2020 had zoomers on a leash, every kid was Fortnite dancing, playing the game and watching streamers play it. I remember my entire class having a meeting about what the comet in the sky was.
>>722168093I think that's the strange thing about society today. Before, we had our attention collectively focused on one thing since word-of-mouth marketing was the king, but in the age of niche-micro-internet-celebrities, it's easy to fall into various bubbles (echo chambers) that never interact with one another. Another example, though pastiche, is how memes were fairly ubiquitous in the early internet era, but as people congregate to their particular social medias and never interact outside of them, memes are much more insular. Few break out, but it feels like people tack onto what they want onto them versus something universally accepted as it's own
>>722126285It's still the most profitable franchise in the world.
>>722127458Why stop when it's the most profitable franchise?
>>722127861>pokemania returned with pokemon goNot exactly. Pokemon Go didn't pushed new audience into buying other Pokemon products like the first gen 1.
>>722141803>no fisticuffs thrownBack in my day, we EARNED our Pokeman cards. With our fists, our courage and steel tips of our boots.
>>722151431Yu-Gi-Oh is not. And every attempt at subvering it either by scalpers or activists have ended in them losing everything.
>>722148870Swapping to 3d was fine to 3DS. Also don't forget that 3D Pokemon spinoff games since N64 used to look nice or at least decent. Then they went fully lazy and stopped giving a shit about quality at Switch era.
>>722140536>Minions>Bluey>Fortnite>Logan Paul
>>722126285Scarlet/violet sold the most out of ANY pokemon games. You lost, snoy ;)
>>722127404True I remember temtem was shilled HARD for months on end
>>722126436>cultural commercialism>"peak" of anythingPokemania is why this franchise went to shit before it ever really took off.
>>722163424Roblox is with more users than every other game combined but you barely see it impacting culture
>>722126436This, so much this. I feel so proud to be a 1996 millennial. The zoomers born one (1) year after me? They grew up with Fortnite or something.I am very, very smart.
>>722126285Don't people feel... Stupid paying hundreds of dollars for a pokemon card? At least if it was a figurine, you could argue it's worth it because it looks nice on a shelf. But a piece of plastic?...
>>722171667I have stopped seeing cards for what they are and only see them as assets now. When I buy a card I ask myself "what is the potential?", I don't think about the cardboard.Not all cardboard is created equal, you have to understand what people want and might want in the future if you don't want to lose money in this hobby.
Pokemania is still running wild for me brother
All my kids are super into pokemon and has helped develop a strong relationship between me and them as I share all my old cards, games and collectibles with them.Pokemania will never stop
>>722168361>people tack onto what they want onto themCan someone rephrase this for a retard?
>>722126285nortubel mania is more important
>>722173863Memes used to be more broad in their application and more general to shared life experiencesNow, they are just templates to project their fandom onto
>>722174087I used to watch compilations of memes like this and didn't even laugh just exhaled a little
>>722148870Normies want 3D, not sprite art. GF always panders to the lowest common denominator.
>>722149358Unironically yes.
>>722159695As a millennial, we got the Steam Deck and AI (quite possibly on the verge of one of the most radical breakthroughs/transformations yet). Things are crappy now, and it will REALLY suck when AI devours a lot of jobs, but I am hopeful for the future.Assuming China/Russia doesn't start WW3 and sets progress back like 20 years.
>>722177615>Assuming China/Russia doesn't start WW3 and sets progress back like 20 years.A WW3 would set us back by centuries.
>>722163424"Mainstream" is dead, there's a niche for absolutely everything
>>72212628590's to early 00's was peak. I think their second peak came with Pokemon Go actually. Besides that I am not sure which would have been the other peaks. It would be a distant third if there is any other noteworthy peak.
Are these plushes the most popular line of merch the franchise has ever seen? I dunno if the release those numbers anywhere but I feel like I see them all over the place
>>722174087I think I get it. A few months ago I was thinking the same thing about how so much fandom content is just treating the characters as figures to slot into meme templates instead of coming up with scenarios that are relevent to them.
>>722176958Normalfags collect old pokemon games and their favourites are the 2D ones, get with the times, grampa.Also never use the word "normie" again when you're in my presence.
>>722129875>BIG NUMBER MEAN BIG GOOD
Minecraft was the closest thing to "Pokemania", but there wasn't really any "mania" in the sense that it wasn't something felt everywhere since it was largely contained to the internet for the most part. Additionally Minecraft lacked multimedia spread, since the only part of it that was popular was the video game itself, and didn't have a card game, tv show, or anything really collectable outside the game.
>>722128259Burgers explain
>>722126285https://youtu.be/qn7TcsT91C8?si=SxNYwAf9q0b-H9SjHERMAN CAIN
>>722127458I think it should have been less than 500 of them. The gen 3 monsters were actually mostly better designs than the 2nd gen. 4th gen had a lot of useless ones to like Rypherior since Ryhdon was based and never needed an evo. They fucked up when they kept making clone mons with each of these gens rather than kept trying to make unique monsters with type combos each new successive game. So it makes these 1000+ monsters seem even more shitty when you realize so many are clones that in a sense gen 1 established. Why is there so many electric rodent mons for example? Even gen 3 is guilty of this since it had two of those.
>>722182056the electric rodents all show a new gimmick (pichu for breeding/baby pokemon, Plusle Minun for doubles, pachirisu gender differences?, emolga hidden abilities?, Dedenne fairy type, alolan raichu was for regionals and togedemaru were totems, morpeko was form changing but I don't think that was introduced in SwSh, Pawmot was lets go feature or whatever)
>>722128064>best era of moviesnah the boomers and silent generation had that
>>722179408>implying I was talking about pokemon and not games as a wholeDoesn't invalidate what I said. Yes, normies are hypocrites in that they want 3D but their favorite game is Gen 1.I'll say whatever I want.
>>722184824No, they prefer to play and collect the 2D games, you subhuman plebbitor.
>>722126436>Millennials only cultural identity is the children's media they consumed.Truly the soiest of generations. Imagine being proud of being the Funko pop generation.Pic related, you being made fun of all the way back in 99 for falling for it.
>>722185037>everything I don't like is reddit>also ignoring how I was talking about games as a wholeAnon, did you pass grade school?
>>722163424Pop culture has shattered and nothing gets the same amount of mindshare as it used to back when options were more limited. Among kids Roblox is probably the biggest thing right now?
>>722185475And even then, Roblox isn't really a phenomenon that exists outside of its own contained space. Kids are obsessed, but only in the context of "I have the ipad and want to play something." and any other time when they aren't in a game playing mood, they're getting the stream of consciousness that is autoplay via Youtube or Tiktok.
>>722185208Only normalfags from plebbit uses normie instead of normalfag because they don't like to offend fags. The word "normie" came from cross site imbeciles using 4chan lingo on plebbit but not being able to use the actual word they shortened it to what you're using.You are a retarded newfag that doesn't belong and you don't know what you're talking about.
>>722185642Yup, pokemon was kind of unique in that it was everything. Game, anime, cards, toys, happy meals, food, movies, books, recorder sheet music, fucking everything you could imagine had licensed pokemon stuff for a few years. Nowadays cartoons are lucky to have a toy line
>>722185676>You are a retarded newfaglmao I've been going to this site longer than most people have been alive here. Keep protecting though. It's funny.
>>722168168My Little Pony is the only toy/cartoon franchise that has its own board on 4chan, and that doesn't change the fact it's dead as fuck fucking now.
>>722173793How did you get them into it and at what age?Tried to get my 3yo son into it but the ashnime is clearly not grabbing his attention. He recognize pikachu because there is a plushie of it lying around, but that's it.
>>722186041Is this a sharty call to flood the site with CP? Keep up the good work, we gotta make everyone miserable by funneling them back into 4chan.
>>722177615>WW3>20 yearsIt's either nothingburger or back to near stone age. No "20 years" in-between.> it will REALLY suck when AI devours a lot of jobsNot gonna happen.1) AI suck massive ass at sustained tasks with multiple steps, and increasing their memory is costly as fuck. It's pretty much stuck as an assistant to a human who is already semi-competent at doing the job (if only to spot when the AI is making shit up). It's a nice productivity gain, but you still need to keep a good chunk of your payroll to keep the same overall productivity. If a company removed an entire department without crashing, then those people were really doing jackshit.2) AIs are currently free or near free. They aren't. Investors are currently all trying to be the last one to survive while selling at complete loss. Once they start to fall and only one or two remain standing, prices to get access to anything but the dumbest & slowest version of ChatGPT will increase by several magnitudes. Tons of business who thought AI would always be a cost saving measure will suddenly have to compare the price between an AI seat license vs a standard employee, and the deal will be way less advantageous than it currently is.
>>722187275Energy issues are being worked out. If we get fusion or orbital solar arrays then energy is going to become a lot better. If not then nuclear power can easily be slotted in for several centuries if people get over their stupid fears of it. This would solve some major costs for it at least (and even if not then literally everything ever benefits from having more energy).1) They do right now. I mean some time ago we were laughing at AI pictures but now most pictures on the net are AI slop. I think it'll be a matter of time before a solution to this is found. Even I, someone who sees AI with incredible potential, think it is stupid replacing a lot of people with AI right now.2) AI's are free as we're the product. Several billion monkeys giving them limitless fringe case tests and data to train them with every day. Also remember that some AI models are open source, so AI companies can't gouge things too much before companies eventually decide to go "Fuck it, lets buy several thousand H1000's and run our own AI network to replace people."
>>722139208Because the right kind of millennials aren't getting hired. It's nepobaby, DEI and tumblrina millennials that are.
>>722126285>he says this when the last pokemon games are the best selling ever after the originals
>>722129483You would lose against me in showdown even if I deliberately picked a team of absolute shitmons kek. Go back and play baby games like etrian odyssey or smt and leave the adults alone. It makes you mad because pokemon actually has depth in its gameplay compared to your solved glorified puzzle games
>>722185859How do you explain the newfag speak, then, genius?
>>722126285Pokemania never stopped, the franchise is bigger than ever and people are so brainbroken in regards to this IP that they will accept some of the most shoddily made big budget games of all time as long as they are Pokemon games.
>>722134341>Everything went off a cliff around 9/11.More like after 2012. Mayans were right, we switched to a shittier plane of existence.
>>722159812Those things were huge I have no idea how a child could manage that
>>722190741>how could that happenRetarded autistic kids
>>722161135>hat we see the same species/archetypes constantly. B/W were pretty refreshingare you fucking kidding me? The absolute biggest issue with BW's dex is that there's almost nothing but retreads of Gen 1 pokemon.
>>722190826But how did they even get it down their throat at all? Those plastic pokeballs were bigger than my adult fist.
>>722146859>spouts literal fake headcanon he got from a schizo poketuberRepeating it endlessly won't make it true, retard.
>>722190943It probably got stuck behind his teeth, didn't actually go down his throat.
>>722140390Good post
>>722185170our generation's cultural identity was subsumed by marvel, college debt, and woke shit in generalit may have been hopeless from the outset, but at least the internet was a double edged sword that allowed truth to spread and take root once again through all the propagandawith the encroachment of AI, the very concept of truth in a digital format is being corrupted as we speak
>>722141657The 50s and 80s were the GAYEST and FAKEST periods of american soiciety ever. Literally the protogoyslop decades.All the good stuff you enjoyed was created by Gen X GAWDS not your nasty pasty boomers.
The only pokemon games worth playing are fangames
>>722190741>>722190943iirc it didn't go down his throat. Half the pokeball got suction-cupped to his mouth and nose, and he suffocated that way.
>>722191903this like gen 3 and 4
>>722140390>You can ignore pokemon if you want to in 2025thats totally not true. esp with the TCG. 1999, 2016 (pokemon go) and 2025 are major spikes. Logan paul made kids care about pokemon again
>>722192121Correction: It was a girl.https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Burger_King_Pok%C3%A9mon_container_recall#Deaths
>>722139208I don't know what the fuck is wrong with millenials. They just put their heads down and turn the other way while the boomers butchered and pillaged their future and lives.Millenials would be based if they actually burned down soiciety and destroyed everything the baby boomers and greatest generation built up after they were repeatedly cucked to death. They were the last generation to potentially deal pain and punishment to the boomers while they were still in power which would have been the ultimate catharsis.Instead they cucked and became reddit sois.Meanwhile zoomers have already performed multiple assassinations of CEOs and politicians and even burned down an entire government (nepal) while playing FARTnite and watching vtubers.
>>722192972millennials were fed so much propaganda and distraction, and it worked
>>722192972>Millenials would be based if they actually burned down soiciety and destroyed everything the baby boomers and greatest generation built upIt was called Occupy Wall Street, and 99% of today clown world's funding was a retaliation to it.Boomers saw their kid give a glance at their cookie jar and amputated both hands before smashing their head with a hammer to be sure.So yeah, we tried. Be glad boomers are getting too old to over-retaliate like they used to, and please try to pick up the OWS torch.
Yes it's been 25 years why would it happen again at this point
>>722126285it will absolutely happen again when augmented reality becomes common and goodimagine actually throwing virtual pokeballs at actual virtual pokemon you slightly perceive to be here in reality with youwould be so much fun
>>722127730>Just make regional variants of older Pokémon like they did for Sun/Moon.GameFreak is already doing that. They are fully aware the roster is getting bloated
>>722199109There was an anime about that. AR becoming cheap and practical enough that everyone is constantly wearing a pair of AR glasses, and gifting a kid a virtual pet isn't seen as weirder than a gifting a real one - mostly because people won't even see the difference unless they try to pet it.I would fucking kill for a Pokémon game with AR on that level. TPCi could probably afford it, but why would they when GF garbage is enough to move sales...
>>722126285>Pokemania will never happen againThey said that before around 2015 then Pokemon Go got released
>>722200635GO isn't comparable. Yes, it swept the world by storm, but only for a few months, and it didn't elicit the same "Pokemon is literally everywhere you look, on every single product, in every single commercial, in every single news article, it was the newest craze churches were bitching about, and it was literally all people talked about." that Pokemania accomplished.Pokemania lasted for three fucking years, that's what makes it so magical of a period. Three solid years of every kid in America living, breathing and thinking about Pokemon 24/7.
>>722190482Always talked like this. Unlike you I don't purity test people blindly.Now have an image I saved back in 2005. La Pucelle was a fun game. I'd post something older from before 4chan's second death, but I lost that computer when my father sold it off.
>>722140197yes?It had NGE, HnK, Jojo, berserk, trigun, db, dbz, inuyasha,yu yu hakusho, sailor moon, digimon, pokemon, Hunter x Hunter.... It was pretty based you cant lie.
>>722127074Did anyone else lick these "solid gold pokemon cards"? >>722126285It never ended for me which is why I use pokemon in my steam name, and it will always be that way for me
>>722200635Go lasted until they started nerfing tracking, which is also the point where most people had completed 90% of their pokédex and the reality that there was jackshit to actually do with your mons settled in for everyone.It lasted what, half a year? Jumped from every park being filled with old pokéfags, to returning into business as usual as if it never happened.And let's not talk about the current state of Go, 'cause that just sad.
>>722151431>Really like the art on some Pokemon TGC cards>Want to get themWhat I don't understand is why the Pokemon Company hasn't tried capitalising on this more. They have this all these great artists contributing great illustrations to the TCG... but they're mostly confined to that single island of the media mix franchise, you have to be into small trading cards to enjoy that art, the sole exception being a couple artbooks with a collection of illustrations on its pages over the years. When am I going to get the opportunity to buy a big print poster for my nerd cave with pic related in high resolution?
>>722126285Pokemon is still the most successful franchise in the world. It will never reach that peak in 2000 when it was bigger than Star Wars and Michael Jackson combined but as long as they keep pumping out games kids will always get into it.
>>722191852>The 50s and 80s were the GAYEST and FAKEST periods of american soiciety ever.As opposed to now?
>>722200965Cope.
>>722167431My kids love Pokémon.
>>722127458I don’t really care for the deigns past gen 4
>>722151431A few years ago it was easy to get MTG counterfeights from China. I imagine pokemon would be similar>muh IP lawsscalpers don't own IP
>>722150882>Gen 2 artstyle but highly detailed>Switch killed itGen 3 fucking killed it
>>722168714Konami prints like crazy and swings around their banlist with wild abandon. It's good for players for the most part
>>722127404>palmania lasted li-ACK!
>>722126285Who needs porkymans when there's pals.
>>722134341Why do zoomers think the world went to shit suddenly around 9/11 (you have to be a zoomer to think this because even as a millennial growing up during the early to mid-2000s, life was very much decent to good, even with 9/11, the GWOT, Katrina etc)? Even in America, shit didn't get bad until after the Great Recession in 2008 and even then there was a lead-in where shit became horrifically bad around 2012. That's when the modern political and social landscape started to become unhinged.
>>722159812Too bad it was only one
>>722140536Fortnite is probably the closest thing but that game mainly highlights the problem with todays media landscape in that the only thing that makes people excited is how many crossover brands you can shove into something
>>722208943Retard
>>7222091409/11 was a bad day, but the idea that it "ruined everything" is Bush propaganda. The 2000s-early 2010s was still fun, I think mass adoption of smartphones and social media is what killed everything.
>>722209857>the idea that it "ruined everything" is Bush propagandaThe propaganda is what was so bad about it, and what continues to be so bad.
>>722209857The PATRIOT Act stemming from it was an obscenely fucking awful byproduct tho
>>722210245True, but it wasn't the first time the American government violated the constitution and crushed civil liberties. John Adams, the SECOND president, already did that.
>>722209857That's what I'm saying. The entire decade of the 2000s was pretty great until 2009 when the Great Recession hit, when a lot of that momentum just started to grind to a halt. Even then it chugged along until like 2012-2014, which is when shit started to get bad for real. To say 9/11 ruined the Western world is a very naive statement. It started a lot of bad trends, but we wouldn't see them take root until a little over a decade later.>>722210014>>722210245True, but I'm of the opinion that was going to happen with or without 9/11, especially with the rise of social media right after it happened. There's nothing that special about 9/11. Something else would've spurred the same propaganda and terrible legislation that fucked our freedoms like that SOPA/PIPA bill.
>>7222104672012 is the year people most often point to as the cutoff for when the "good times" ended and I don't know how much of it is just related to the cultural stuff about the mayans and how much of it is actually real.
>>722127074>consoomersloppokemon was never good and rides on nostalgia and autism to get their inflated sales numbers
>>722126436>>722126285>dude [product] is my personality lmaoPeak npc behavior
>>722129796>>722130060Pokemon go wan't the same, not even close. it was just a brief fad among people that didn't care about pokemon.
>>722168563Pokemon GO was close to starting the new boom, the issue was the game was abysmal at launch both in performance and content. Had it launched with half the content it has now and in the technical level it'd potentially have been in the public eye longer than those fiveish months.
>>722210620Those "people" are spiritual and intellectual niggers.
>>722126285I'm playing Polished Crystal right now and having a great timeBeen a few years since I've played any pokemon game
>>722211068So they're cool?
>>722126285>Minecraft>>>/vp/
>>722211604Not even close. The closest to Pokemania might be Fortnite.
>>722210957>it was just a brief fad among people that didn't care about pokemon.so, pokemania?
>>722211647Get real
>>722211763Fortnite at its peak was bigger than Minecraft at its peak. It helps that Fortnite has a million other properties in it like Predator and Family Guy.
>>722210620A lot of it has to do with it being the last time before identity politics became a feature of American politics and people were actually focusing on real issues like how the plutocrats of this nation are actively destroying the middle class for their financial gain and shit like SOPA/PIPA being blatant backdoors into censorship.Also, in terms of culture, there was still decent shit coming out but more importantly people were a lot more chill and willing to socialize (provided you didn't act like a douche, sperg or other type of antisocial invalid) and there were places to go in most cities even the small ones. Not to mention looking at your phone 24/7 was seen as rude and in bad form. It's just the last time that America felt sane even despite the very obvious economic downturn at the time. Things weren't great, but they weren't fucked beyond all repair like now.
>>722128259Unironically how did scalping get THIS fucking bad in the last 5 or so years?It's like anything with even the tiniest amount of scarcity will drive scalpers into a frenzyDon't fucking get me started on "grading" and signatures and all that other shit either
>>722212775Scamming and grifting are the only way to get ahead, and quite frankly, even just tread water, anymore, so you have every random retard trying their hand at it.
>>722212775Faggots like (((Logan Paul))) making it a meme to his low IQ followers.
>>722126436To be fair, if you told 10 year old me I could play a game where Godzilla, Goku, Superman, and Naruto were all in the same game, I probably would have shit myself in excitement
>>722141803>Like two white people and everyone else being a piece of shitColour me shocked
>>722126285Pikachu used to have so much soulThe design got ruined when they slimmed him down
>>722126285I remember going to a card shop and trying to get a flying balloon Pikachu card. I think it was like an entry card for a tournament. The fsggot shop owner was charging like 100 and my mom said no and screamed at me thinking it would be five bucks and bought me a pack of yugioh instead. Then we went and she bought heroin and probably fucked a nigger while I was in the car. My childhood was lame. Never got that balloon Pikachu card... Also street sharks are part of this memory too for some reason. Like the toys that came in the cage packaging. Idk.
Post your favourite mon.
>>722216918Tied between Chandelure and MimikyuInfernape is my favourite starter
>>722126436Sad, but true.
