the failing upwards pipeline in the games industry is insanehow do you even get another job after being in charge of character designs in fucking cocord of all thingsif i had such a colossal fuckup in my field of work i'd probably have to change my name and fake my resume
>>722155880Nepotism.
you can't hate sony hard enough
I think people are overreacting to Mystique's face.
The video game industry only has so many people in it in the west so its not that weird that shit people in 1 Californian company go work in another one. They dont have much options to hire from. Like they are not going to bring people in from Japan or Europe so they have to just accept whoever applies from California.
It's BRIDGE cultists.
>>722156497>Yes, Mystique ages, but her metamorphic mutant powers significantly slow down her aging process, allowing her to appear as a young adult for a very long time, even over a century, as a biological side effect of her powers. Her lifespan is effectively extended by her power to maintain her physical form and cellular regeneration. Yet she looks like a 50yo tranny here
Replace with AI, end of trouble
As Pete Hegseth said, “You should not pay for an earnest mistake for your entire career.”
>>722155880it's simplethey do what they're toldno questions, no doubtobedient puppets for people higher up
>>722155880It's like 1% of friends, most fired devs can't find a job
>>722155880Being a woman is basically the God mode code for job interviews.
>>722155880She did her job: produce propaganda.
>>722156816>earnest
>>722155880Character artists don't do the designs, they're just polygon slaves like how the programmers are code monkeys.Designs are done by art directors and concept artists.
Because she’s either spreading her legs to the right person or their is some rainbow brigade member or cuck who is sympathetic to her cause
>>722155880Ok but top right is a cutie :3
Meritocracy does not exist. Networking is the only career skill that matters. If you don't know how to socialize to build industry connections, white collar careers are not for you no matter how competent you are in work itself.
imagine getting layed off because these faggots keep destroying the companies you work forI wonder if its possible to sue a company for knowingly hiring someone that ruined a previous company and then ruined yours and cost your job, that would be one way to solve this problem
>>722155880I don't think you should be banned from working in a field if your project failed, at least not if you weren't calling the shots. The retarded budget wasn't her faultEven Dobson improved
>>722155880You copied this post from an earlier thread.>If I can't fap to a character it is bad!
>>722158467She is not half bad looking. Id give her a few babies.
itzi or whatever the fuck was hot so they did a great job. glad they got rehired
>>722156598However we know they blacklist you from the industry if you don't agree with them.Because multiple people in hiring positions @ california studios admitted to doing that during gamergate.
>>722155880>character artist>”in charge”
>>722155880Leftoids think resisting capitalism means buying an extra disney subscription
>>722155880Because the problem wasn't the character designs, it was the pricetag
>>722155880what race is that?
>>722160136Why did Concord fail so spectacularly, if only porn-addicted incels care about characters not looking like dogshit?
>>722160304It just wasn't a very good game.
>>722160236Given they brought back Kimmel. I think you are retarded.
>>722160304It was a game made for 2017. Even solid games struggle to succeed now, there's too many games and the most popular games are timesinks preventing you from moving on to other games. 5v5 destiny-like arcade hero shooter with GOTG writing taking off in this environment was just never going to work ever.
>>722156816>concord was an earnest mistakes you guys. everyone makes half a billion dollar mistakes from time to time. we're only human after all.
>>722160385Jimmy Kimmel is a multi millionaire that just sits down and reads stuff the writing room approved. Has he ever taken a swipe at the shady shit the CIA or agriculture and pharmaceutical industries do? Or does he just rile up the dog and pony show of Democrat vs Republican political drama. Also when we eat the rich will he be spared?
It's a leftist ideology. They never believe they made a bad product. If their product fails, it's outside factors, not because their work is bad. Everyone in the video game industry has this mentality so they gladly hire someone from projects that historically failed.
>>722160623why is that thing on the right doing a retard smile
>>722160623hahahaha you reminded me they made scripted podcasts (i.e. bedtime stories for adults) for people who wanna get deeper into the lore for this amazing new IP
>>722155880Hmmm>>722155698>>722154746>>722160136This man is correct
>>722160713you're supposed to listen to those after you read the novel
Hey, it fits the CV, if games become more corporate, and with less of that Oomph that knows what people want, this is just gonna be modus operandi.But since I don't buy 3Aslop it's not my problem
>>722155880I don't think the designers have any creative input, they come up with something then suits ask them to change it and after 10 iterations of this it barely resembles what they had in mind. Not saying she isn't a woke piece of shit, but I highly doubt they hire designers for their talent, more like for if they get work done.
>itt incels cry about talented women making videogames incels are too retarded to makeYou love to see it
>>722156497While you and I know that you are being hyperbolic, the people behind the character design ought to know that the fundamental problem with these somewhat average looking mocap actress face scan models is that they wholly and completely fail to capture the spirit and essence of comic book superheroes. Does every character in fiction need to be a supermodel? No. Do SUPERheroes? Unironically fucking YES you dumb fucking self-inserting libtard commiefornian cuckholds. Its supposed to be fantastic stories about fantastic stories doing fantastic things. An overidealistic vision of the best of us blown way out of proportion. The most powerful of power fantasies. The men jacked beyond what steroids can possibly grant. The women beautiful beyond what actual human spines will allow for a body to even curve.>but what about le Peter Parker Everyman being le most successful????True, but he only works as a novelty. He's the king of average looking Joe superheroes and even though they have tried with all of their fucking might, none have dethroned the plain Jane web-king. He stands alone. For the rest, they must be the best. Better than the best. Role models with impossible and unobtainable standards. You will NEVER be as bold, you will NEVER be as brave, you will NEVER be as strong, but most importantly you will NEVER be as cut or ripped, or chiseled, or bombshell, smokeshow, drop dead, gorgeous as them as hard as you try. But you should try. That's the point.
>>722156685She’s Nightcrawler’s dad in the current canon, they’re just ensuring she looks the part.
>>722160623when their products fail the immediately blame the customers for not buying their slop, they then throw a fit, demand steam remove reviews, cry on blusky for a few months, shoot a christian, then land another job doing it all over again.
>>722160583Even with Concord being a flop, its not just the blame of character designers. The whole management team that decided to take that course is to blame.Workers in that team can always go "Oh there was just poor direction" and call it a day
>>722155880character artists dont make 3D models you dipstick
>>722160623trust me, when people are working on stuff like this everyone in the studio knows it's bad, it's almost always corporate pushing for shit like this. investors have been chasing nonexistent "woke" dollars since 2010. this has nothing to do with "leftist" ideology, it's more like useless neo-lib virtue signaling.
>>722160962>Workers in that team can always go "Oh there was just poor direction" and call it a dayThey usually blame the marketing team.
>>722160969https://alifewellwasted.com/Listen to episode 9. No one thought the game was bad. All the developers loved it.
>>722161119>Listen to episode 9No.
>>722160304It was a dog shit game, majority of people who play games just play them for the gameplay and the thing they control could be a fucking green blob for all they care
>>722161119i'm just speaking from personal experience, doesn't mean there aren't exceptions
>>722161119Did the gameplay actually seem fun or anything?
>>722160860>>722160889>>722160928>>722160958>>722160975>>722161005It's insane how someone looked at this and thought it looked good
>>722160385>corporations want to keep their mouthpiece >idiots celebrate What a fool to believe humanity could overcome greed. Chat, dox this man for money.
>>722160860>>722160889>>722160928>>722160958>>722160964>>722160975>>722161005This shit is so fucking lame.>>722161036Now they just blame "the community/chuds" which is why they're pushing so hard for getting user reviews/comments/likes/dislikes disabled for anything related to videogames. They think if they silence everyone critical of their product, their product will sell. When that fails, they'll try and force gaming subscription services so that you pay for their trash no matter what.
>>722161285I like some of them, like the air cannon girl, but most are bad.
>>722161119They aren't going to publish the people that speak ill of the project you silly Billy. Negative opinions will literally be suppressed by NDA agreements for years. You won't find out what actual thoughts on these things were for a very long time, if you ever do. Any of this stuff they put out is just PR bullshit.
I liked that one girl with the helmet cause she had thick thighs
>>722161285>>722161318Alright wise guys, let's see your character designs!
>>722161318>Now they just blame "the community/chuds" which is why they're pushing so hard for getting user reviews/comments/likes/dislikes disabled for anything related to videogames.This is why most websites don't have forums or comment sections anymore. They hate opposing opinions and only want echo chambers.
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>>722160623Holy fuck. It's ALWAYS about emasculating men. I've noticed this. Men become "women but with slightly broader shoulders and a beard" so the difference isn't as stark.What a fucking joke. Men are completely different, even if you're a total manlet, you're still 2x as large as a woman your height.
>>722160860>>722160889>>722160958>>722160975>Get hired to make art for a FIRST PERSON SHOOTER>cant even draw proper gunsThis is why AI slop is replacing you idiots
Concord artist made the pic of the left.
>>722160385Have fun selling to gen Alpha I guess once the grifter generations lose their interest.
>>722161429I call it "Trans nigga with a jetpack"Where is my money
>>722161709Also women can do everything a man can do.
>>722161709And masculizing men. They're insecure retards that attack the beautiful because it reminds them of what they can't be.
>>722161709Take the hint, we must be better men
>>722155880This is how it is in finance, too. I work in securities and the number of people who either contribute nothing or outright hurt a company with their incompetence is staggering. What's worse is how many of them still get jobs of equal or greater value in other firms. Retarded boomers and the HR foids they employ are incapable of asking the right questions and simply see years of experience and creditentials. The smartest boomer/foids will ask, "your company really struggled with x, how did you handle that," to which the evasive scumbag will allege they had nothing to do with it or that they actively tried to do the opposite of what they did. If all else fails, they can always preach multitude of factors and the difficulty of finding the one real cause of this or that failure. And that works, stunningly.The same thing is likely true here, though it's probably even easier with how unserious the game dev space is
>>722161709Case in point Hades 2. Try to find one heterossexual male in pic related. And I won't even say anything about their faggy voice acting.
>>722161429sounds like fun, but I don't think most of them looks bad, just not main character material. I played a lot of Starfield for a while and weirdo like them might not be particularly out of place in a game like that. It wouldn't be fair anyway because I draws in anime style.
>>722158467>>722160141kill yourselvesall of you kill yourselves
>>722163763Where's Hades?
>>722161709Or being jealous of men. I've listened to a female author talk about her book, because only women are allowed to write books now chud. And she used the word "virile" and insisted it had nothing to do with male or masculinity and then in her book the protagonist is a woman, of course because women don't have enough empathy to write about anything else than themselves, and a passage she read was about the main character looking at a man about her age and how his only concerns were about telling cyclists off while driving, how he doesn't have any expectations or pity for being an unmarried man in his 40s while she does. Have we had enough of this shit? Haven't we learned enough by now?
>>722159031>imagine getting layed off because these faggots keep destroying the companies you work forYeah this, they don't give a shit because they're actors, they will move on for another gig, if the game under performs the only ones suffering are the developers, same thing happened with Snow White, the director even had to go and scold that bitch for running her mouth on social media constantly, putting the jobs of thousands of people on the line while she faces no repercussions.
>>722160304le oversaturated genre despite marvel rivals being a huge success>but it was free!There's a reason they didn't try to relaunch Concord as a f2p, despite having an insane budget, they would rather not throw any more money at it, I wonder why.
Reminder that Dragon Age: Veilguard's director got instantly hired to be a studio leader at Wizards of the Coast.
>>722160304Because everybody care about characters not looking like dogshit.Among other things, that's what art does, induces feelings. I play Ocarina of Time and the music induces a feeling of wonder which affects the whole game. Characters looking like dogshit affect every aspect of the game, it makes the creator look like villain and their game feel like poison.
>>722155880>how do you even get another job after being in charge of character designs in fucking cocord of all thingsCool it with the anti-semitism
>>722155880early life status?
>>722166397Is not she a little too black to be a jew?
>>722155880Not just a character artist on Concord, somebody who happily displays the hideous catgirl alien character they made on their social media profiles.
>>722161489That and every review site is completely compromised so word of mouth is the only way to ensure true reviews, but that comes with its own problems, between bots and shills and knee jerk reactionary’s it’s hard to gauge actual criticism or glowing praise.The easiest way is to just look at gameplay but a lot of these companies wait till release day or the day before for an actual gameplay trailer to launch.Even the smallest YouTubers that barely breach 90k views get a fat check to say whatever the script says nowadays, they’re trying to ensure a narrative but the internet is too vast
>>722163763I’d say Zeus but he’s a infamous degenerate>hmm that mortal girl looking cute>time for horse cock
>>722155880The concept art for that character is actually pretty decent.Honestly, MOST of Concord's concept art was decent. The 3D models are where it all went wrong.
>>722166150Not a surprise, WotC has been like that for at least a decade.
>>722161489It's evidenced by them moving to pedosky from formerly Twitter as soon as some repression of speech was lessened on that platform. It's not that they don't want to see a particular opinion, otherwise they can just stop following who they don't want, it's that they don't want YOU to see it.
>>722155880Didn't one of the guys from the crew in charge of character design said that their original drafts were rejected a lot of times by an internal comitee from snoy, because the designs were not "inclusive" enough?
>>722167050So it’s the Oblivion problem where the artist uses a bunch of details and shading that’ll be butchered in its transition
>>722167165Pretty much. You can find the work she did for Firewalk on Artstation here, and it's all pretty solid. Not a surprise that she'd get rehired somewhere else.https://www.artstation.com/amandakiefer/albums/14101233
>>722155880Because there are some people giving these companies big money for these things. It doesn't matter if the game flops.
>>722155880>how do you even get another job after being in charge of character designs in fucking cocord of all thingsBy blaming (((WHITE PEOPLE))) who are plantation owners in nazi uniforms with MAGA hats. Never under-estimate a snake's ability to deflect all personal responsibility, especially in the current social climate where their actions are ALWAYS someone else's fault. For real. Those big bitch-storms that come when a game flops aren't for the sake of the people they're verbally whipping. It's for their own selves so they don't have to feel like they're responsible for producing a shitty game.
>>722167050nah, the color palette is fucking awful too.
>>722163151>The smartest boomer/foids will ask, "your company really struggled with x, how did you handle that," to which the evasive scumbag will allege they had nothing to do with it or that they actively tried to do the opposite of what they did.>If all else fails, they can always preach multitude of factors and the difficulty of finding the one real cause of this or that failure. And that works, stunningly.You can see it happening live here! >>722167050>Honestly, MOST of Concord's concept art was decent. The 3D models are where it all went wrong.
>>722167076Ehh it’s more like shitter has become completely unusable since the update that let you earn money just from people scrolling past your post, more if they actually interact with it, so the bot count has probably reached nearly triple the actual user count as every thread that’s even vaguely popular gets 40+ bots stalking it posting bait, imagine if the shitposters here made like 50 cents for every (you), every thread here is already nearly unreadable from the constant shitflinging but that site is some unique hell of bots replying to bots that are hosted by the same Chinese guy with 400 IPhones paying $10k a year in twitter subscriptions to make $10,001 a year in returnIt’s oddly fascinating how a single change caused such a surreal epidemic, it’s like those 3rd worlders grinding in MMOs to sell rare loot for food money
>>722167296>that faceStill ugly but definitely leagues above the model
>>722167990This. By that standard, MOST video game concept art is "decent", "above average", "actually pretty good, it was just the 3D transition bro". I have seen people get bamboozled by this for eons now. Does anyone remember the Mighty No 9 concept art that people were convinced must have existed as a secret build of the game somewhere? Maybe I'm being a little facetious when I say that, but people genuinely do fall for flashy concept art in the worst and most silly ways. Or at least they look at concept art after the fact, and form a retard assumption that somehow there was a possibility of a glorious perfect video game with an art direction like the world has never seen, just because they hired a half decent sci-fi/fantasy illustrator, who's portfolio is probably indistinguishable from his peers that he graduated from his shitty art school with. News flash dick heads, these things are made by teams. Those teams require cohesion. Know what doesnt help cohesion? Women and fucking multiculti in the fucking workspace. They drive the biggest wedges and ruin everything. Its no wonder western design philosophy simply relies on photorealism due to their teams being so "diverse". Whoops, I digressed again hard on women and minorities. Sorry for chudding out. Point is, Concord's concept art is very run of the mill. Nothing special at all by the standard of sci-fi concept artists. In fact that field is extremely oversaturated to the point that those designs could have been literally shat out by AI.
>>722160958>ywn play the fruity alien playing an extremely phalic flute to summon ghost bubbles We were robbed.
>>722155880the character designs in concord were fucking awful but the animations, especially the facial animations, were quite good
>>722155880fuck up? Concord was a massive success.remember "It's not about the money, it's about sending a message"
>>722161429I'd make a cool character that makes gamers go hell yeah. Give it red and black colors and make it edgy. Know what just pretend I developed reaper.
Why haven't (you) got off your ass and got a job in the industry yet? The competition doesn't look very tough.
>>722169585probably because gamedev is paying poverty wages and my time as a software engineer is better off creating scada interfaces for industrial applications
>>722161429Something like this, because it's cool as fuck and literally me.
>>722169585they don't hire straight white men
>>722161429>>722169585Because even if you get in, your designs will just get committee'd into unrecognizable slop
>>722170847>Gordon Freeman if he black woman
>>722160623I still don't know what the fuck this "game" is about. Based on the few webm I've seen, it seems like some kind of multiverse avenger slop but with diversity on the front.
>>722167990>>722168868I posted that concept art to address the confusion of why she got another job, retard. I never said Concord was good, I said it's not surprising that the artist is still getting work because her work on Concord was fine, even if the end result was irredeemable dogshit.
>>722156497It looks like a hideous goblin you indian
>>722160608>PicIndia also has the highest number of actual geniuses but no one's trying to pretend it's some sort of utopiaIt's because there ar more people there, that is literally it in both cases sheer numbers game
>>722160940>True, but he only works as a novelty. He's the king of average looking Joe superheroesWrong. Peter was fucking hot. At least in the cartoon I grew up with. The spider bite made him ripped and wore a mask anyways even in his dorky depictions as Spiderman he was hot.
>>722161429by the way, are you asking about our own character designs or a redesign of their characters?
>>722172290>retardI never made the claim that you said Concord was good you goal post moving retard. I challenge your view that her art is good. I say its bog standard, derivative, uninspired slop. Maybe it's technically good in the sense that her anatomy and functional skill is on point, but it is utterly forgettable, and exists in an ocean of similar looking sci-fi junk.
>>722173004Typically when stacked against other heroes Peter was rather small and comparably meek or average looking. This would of course be contrasted when he put on the mask and struck an inhuman contortionist McFarlane style pose. Even his musculature was hidden outside the suit, and his meek neediness was played up. I was wrong about him being the ONLY one though, I forgot that Superman basically had the same Schick. However, in certain frames the artists could not refrain from making him look like a heroic gigachad, especially when the context of the scene called for it.
>>722156497Your brain has been succesfully conditioned into liking troon looking women. Youre* underreacting.
>>722160136I don't want to play as or look at a woman in generral I cant jerk off to.
>>722160608>Has he ever taken a swipe at the shady shit the CIA or agriculture and pharmaceutical industries do? Or does he just rile up the dog and pony show of Democrat vs Republican political dNope, he just distracts from the real issues by talking about how Trump must release the Epstein files all the time.
>>722161709>even if you're a total manlet, you're still 2x as large as a woman your height.I can't believe your bragging about being obese and assuming all other men are fatties too.
>>722173368Nice helmet design>>722167076https://www.natesilver.net/p/what-is-blueskyism
>>722158467>have to come up with a default ability icon for the game we are making so abilities can be developed and tested before the artist is done making the icon>as an in office joke i will choose a funny picture of one of my coworkers (1minute of work by 1 person)>game proceeds to be extremely popular>people start making their own maps with the editor where they come in contact with my funny in office joke default icon>20 years later our popular game gets remastered by an external studio>design committee (1 lead, 3 senior, 2 slave representatives) have a meeting(2 hours) how best to remaster the default icon
>>722170847The funny thing is you know that is due to feminist mind rot but in real world studies, women WANT to play sexy women. Women ENJOY the fantasy of being hot and powerful like how men who aren't gay still like roleplaying as hot men with big muscles. Nobody wants to be some dumpy old loser in their fantasy unless his age ties into some sort of cool concept like being a genius inventor or whatever.
>>722155880Only experience matters
>>722176983Its just a virtue signaling vanity project for them anyway. None of them are going to play video games to an enthusiastic degree. What the fuck do they care about the fantasy within? They aren't invested in that aspect. To them it might as well be a TV show. I mean that literally. That's how they see it. Women do not sit in their rooms for hours on end glued to a video game until it is 100% complete. It is not in their nature. They will ditch that shit in three seconds to go seek social opportunities instead.
>>722156416this, simple as. the western vidya industry is one giant gay circle jerk.
>>722176312The best theory I heard was that it was some neckbeard trying to impress the HR lady he had a crush on by making her the new icon.
>>722156497why not make mystic more lady like just how shes alway portrayed in the comics and movies? why make her a square jaw tranny abomination? youre just disingenuous as fuck.
>>722160969they hire woke developers wich they hope will make stuff the nonexistent woke audience would want
>>722170847Did this guy get blacklisted or just browbeat into submission
>>722155880I wonder why but it's real, I know someone who worked in the top management on unknow 9, after the studio was disbanded, he found another top tier job in a very big studio.
>>722160969>it's not REAL leftism you guys