What I could gather from the video>skills and classes were rebalanced>Rogue's Keen Eyes skill goes up to 15 (max used to be 8)>Cleric's Holy Arrow shoots 3 arrows>Bandits can crit>Assassins and Archers can attack at close range as previously confirmed>secondary stats are back>Warriors still miss a lot>more customization at character creation>Party Quests not limited to one party per channel>EXP tables unchangedAnything else?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMCaGr7bEA8
sex with jane
>>722157623>skills and classes were rebalancedInterestingI'll play it day one, at least
I'm gonna try it if only because i touched it maybe once growing up. Don't know if its worth a shit though, seems like rose tinted glasses but won't have a lasting impact. Ragnarok Online is a much better game, but /vg/ turned it into a clique of gender confused homos ERP'ing with painfully close-to-official low rates. No quality of life changes, bunch of tryhards
>>722157623>Party Quests not limited to one party per channelSoulless. Part of the fun was how competitive everyone got trying to get into them.
>>722159570Not so fun when thousands of people will be camping all channels at launch
>>722159570No, it generated concentrated autism
>>722157623>Party Quests not limited to one party per channelsoulless
>>722157623it will be a nightmare to try and level up at launch isn't it. still will try it thohttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jfZOvQnsBq0
>You can put points into HP/MPHP washing confirmed. Owari da
>>722160168Henesys Hunting Ground will be crazy at launch
You're not going to play as a girl, right anon?
They had a beta and it was invite only in person you had to travel to a very specific location in san Francisco or something, or was it literally california?Like one afternoon only, they got camera footage of all-asian nerds looking super happy to test the game, exaggerating like they were commanded to smile for the cameraone youtuber started getting recommended to me with like 30 minute videos where he tries to make the Maplestory lore sound deep & meaningful, like it's some grand scope stuff. Talks about 'da frenz we made along da way' and how tedious repetitive grinding was actually a good thing
>>722160483>that clipThat's adorable
What soundtrack is playing in the background at 5:01? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhK1b17ApgE&t=301s
>>722160483I'm going to play as a girl and put the tofu in fire outfit.
>>722159570>>722160072although I like that change because fuck waiting for hours to get into LPQ or OPQ just for some faggot to disconnect, it could also just be something they only implemented for the Beta so people wouldn't need to keep changing channels when testing the game
>>722159390RO threads on /vg/ are some of the worst on the entire website, just a smidge less deranged than the FF14 ones.
>>722157623>Warriors still miss a lotI can remember not being able to hit Jr. Neckis as a warrior because the accuracy was so shit
>>722161407obviously there is no way to know how important accuracy will be but in the video you can clearly see a level 30 warrior missing on King Slime
christ, thats alot of trannies in that video
>>722160708https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePUZA7yRJVM
>>722160276>146 skill points.Pray that this is only a beta and they are using the old game client as is. I don't think that anybody would be nostalgic about washing and paying for others to level you up.
>>722161713wait, isn't it just one?
>>722157623Am I the only one who hopes they use classic to restart the MMO? I missed out and dont want to play global server with its 20 year updates
>>722161727Thanks
>>722157623>Cleric's Holy Arrow shoots 3 arrowsIt could shoot ten arrows and still be useless because Heal is just outright better.Holy Arrow's problem was never its damage or lack of mobbing, but that literally every other skill at second job has significantly more impact in their job. MP Eater, Invincible, and Heal let you train without ever needing potions, Teleport for mobility, and Bless while being the least impactful is necessary for party play with Warriors later on. Holy Arrow just doesn't bring enough to the table to be worth the THIRTY skill points necessary to max it.>>722161407>>722161596Even at the highest level you can KPQ at (30), a Warrior with the "expected" DEX of 60 will only have a 90% chance to hit King Slime unless they get additional accuracy from elsewhere.Accuracy was actually a very big deal for Warriors back then, and given the context I'm certain it'll remain that way for Classic MS.>>722161991Anon, I highly doubt the testers would have to grind all the way to those levels or be stuck with their specific builds. That would be a total waste of testing time. You can see the same person playing both a level 2X character and a 5X character.
>>722162306one too many
Wait, can you not play original Maplestory anymore?I thought it was still around.
>>722160483I often play female characters, but for this one I will channel my past 14yo self and make an edgy male swordsman.
>>722162769Modern Maplestory is almost nothing like the Maplestory from the 2000s. They're basically two completely different games at this point.OP is just talking about them bringing back that older version as a separate server.
>>722162862What's so different about them? They look really similar on a surface level.Either way, it's cool that they're making something akin to WoW Classic servers.
>>722160483I'm going to play as a boy Spearman and maybe finally get a cute azn cleric gf that so many others got back in the day.
>>722163038>ClassicMeso struggle never ends. Hours for a single level.Bosses are hold one button for 40 minutes.>ModernForced into story, tutorial included.Reach level 200 in 15 minutes.Do dailies/weeklies forever.Bosses are bullet hells where one mistake leads to dying, ending an hour long boss fight.Potentials, Starforce, etc. makes game way more pay2win than classic could ever.Also 90% of the content is never used by anyone ever anymore.
>>722162769Well this thing is still around but I wouldn't call it MapleStory
>>722163345That's not getting into how soulless the map designs are and how homogeneous all the modern classes are with most of them having almost no identity outside of "this one gives me this account wide buff after reaching this level".Music is still kino though.
>>722162769I ain't spending 30 minutes just to clear First Adversary or more than one hour if fail run.
>>722162658The point I’m making is that since this is just a beta, HP and MP raising don’t really matter yet. It’s too early to tell whether washing will be a thing or not.
are you fags ready for the zakum jump quest
>>722163345>>722163563basically the progression for all mmos
>>722157623Do you have this class?
>>722163732Considering this is likely being built off of the modern code for modern MS, I doubt washing will actually be possible since it was eventually patched out. I think it's reasonable to believe it won't be coming back. Obviously we won't know until the game is right in front of us, and I'm sure it's going to be one of the first things some people will be trying when it launches, so any doomsaying or speculating is frivolous.
>>722163875len I want to smooch hermy beloved len*smooch*
>>722162658>Warrior with the "expected" DEX of 60That warrior has (supposedly) 30 DEX
>>722160483Love GoldensSimple as
>>722164087I put "expected" since the general advice for newbies was "DEX twice your level until a certain point (what that certain point is depends on funding)". And for good reason; at 30 DEX, even at level 30 you cannot hit King Slime at all without some accuracy equips or buffs (which checks out, as I don't think a single attack he throws at the boss connects).
>>722163736Zakum jump quest is unironically easy
I forgot to add something else in the OPFire Arrow also shoots 3 arrows now
>>722164568They're critting, too, which leads me to believe they're giving all classes critical chance like modern MS.
>>722157623On one hand, playing classic, REAL Maplestory again would be niceOn the other hand, I am very fond of my memories of classic Maplestory and I don't know if it's worth potentially sullying them.And I also don't have that kind of free time anymore.Fighter for life, Rage for everyone.
>>722157623Nemi's kinda cute irl...
>>722164635Fuck, you're right, now that kinda sucks
>>722163736I wish somebody had copied Maple jump quests. ALL THESE FUCKING YEARS AND NOTHING.
>>722157623I can't wait, bros!
>>722165693Critical hits unironically have psychological effects on its users. It's one of the (many) reasons Assassins were so popular at the time.If they're ripping it straight from modern, it's likely not going to have a big impact on training. A tiny chance to do marginally more damage is a nothingburger outside of long, sustained fights like bosses. Archers and Assassins will still have the lion's share of critical hits. Sure it's not "classic" but I wouldn't call it a dealbreaker.
brehs all i wanted was for selene to not fucking die...
>>722165972Ok yeah they're definitely using the modern day crit system
>>722165468she looks so young, she was working for Wizet over 20 years ago so she's in her 40s
>>722163345>meso struggle never endsDepends on the server you play for modern. Reboot doesn't give 2 shits about mesos but is fucked over by equipment rarity with no way to trade for gear. Regular servers run on mesos.>hours for a single levelThis is still true in the level range that content is being built for which is 260+.>bosses are hold one button for 40 minutesYeah this is the major difference, bosses have actual mechanics instead of face tanking everything except one shots.
>>722168068I should have been more specific with "hours for a single level as early as 2nd job".You can get to level 200 in modern MS in the same time it takes you to get to 2nd job in classic. Maybe even faster depending on your class.
>>722167836Asian genes. They always look half the age they actually are.
>>722168406what's even the point of 1st, 2nd and 3rd job at that point?
>>722169317For classes that use all of their active skills, the early jobs are important for getting your full kit. For those that replace old skills with newer ones, the early jobs are mainly for the passives and buffs. Some classes get what is effectively the main skill they'll be using the whole time in 1st job with 2nd-4th strengthening it and adding other skills along the way.Luminous for example, could care less about the attacks from 1st to 3rd, they all get replaced with the 4 skills you use in 4th job. Ark uses every skill he learns. Illium gets his main attack in 1st job and it gets stronger with each job advancement.
I've been playing Artale lately until Classic World releases and decided to make a lukless magician just because, were lukless magicians always this strong in OSMS???
>>722160276What is that thing on the bottom left corner?
>>722157623Don't forget>Possible HP changes to mobs (snail which normally has 15HP needed 40 damage to take down and it provided more XP) implying it'll be following Reboot's way of playing (no scrolling and possibly no trading)>You can party up with other players with seemingly no XP loss (player receives the same amount of XP after killing a mob despite being in a party)>Fire Arrow for FP mage also hits three times and can hit other mobs if the first mob dies before all three hits land>Same with archers and their doubleshot>Any class with a "shield" can potentially guard (including mages)So far Classic is looking more and more "party" focused. Not "party quest" focused but "party" focused.
>>722161295>it could also just be something they only implemented for the Beta so people wouldn't need to keep changing channels when testing the gameThe only reason why it existed back then was because, by Wizet's admission, they couldn't make PQs stable for multiple parties in one go at the time.
>>722160483No. In Modern Maplestory, I just alternate because I needed to level up every job in the game to level 210, but since Classic Maplestory will focus on one character, I'm following my main and becoming a male page that uses one-handed blund weapons.
>>722163345>Potentials, Starforce, etc. makes game way more pay2win than classic could ever.You're more or less right on the other things but Modern Maplestory at this very second is the least P2W version it's ever been. Even prior to potential cubes being added.The "worst" you'll now see is the ability to pay to save time (i.e. you pay money to "fulfill" your dailies for one character instead of spending 10 minutes doing them).
>>722157623>RebuildTrans
>>722160483Well, classic doesn't have canon female chars, so no
>>722171962>a literal tranny gets to play the game early and I don't
>>722172272It is california anon, every team MUST contain at least one tranny by law
>>722163678Bold of you to assume /v/ is even at CTENE solo level
>>722172490I got to the point where I could do CTENE but then decided I want to do like, anything else and now I'm leveling up my legion to 10k before moving on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfgBDs8z6WE
>Classic World releases>want to play Archer>remember I need funding to make a low STR build>want to play Assassin>remember I need funding to make a Dexless or at least low DEX build (also for throwing stars)>want to play Warrior>remember I need funding to buy accuracy gearWhat the fuck do I do?
>>722173057As someone who played Warrior and Archer since the beta I never needed to do either of those things
I wanted to play that game when I was young but wasn't able, would it be a good way to start? I have an MMO itch and dislike how modern MMOs are
>>722170007yeah so what's the point of 1st to 3rd job if u just keep using the same skills?
>>722173617maplestory is a bad mmoits a good way to get kids to spend their parents money
Tbh wouldn't mind playing it for the nostalgia but idk how I feel about that fucking grind lmao
>>722174202thank god I did NOT played it back then then kek
>>722174294From the way it looks the grind is going to be changed a bit from soloplay to party play.
>>722173617how much do you like grinding?
>>722174818as long players talk in the world I'm fine
>>722160483your gender actually matters in this game because of gender-exclusive gear, depending on the class male gear might be more common, or female gear might be more common, so it really dependsbut then again you won't be able to buy anything for a few months anyway so it barely matters
When is the information thing happening that gives more details on it?
>>722177002October 25th
Is it still going to take a year playing 20 hours a week to get to level 70? I'm not saying we should get to 70 in 10 min like current ms but just wondering if there are exp changes.
>>722174294It's better to just keep the nostalgia just a memory.
>>722178332in the video the EXP tables are unchanged compared to OSMS, you can check it yourself with some simple math and checking the old hidden-street EXP table, your best bets are>EXP tables being ajusted for the final release>enemies giving more EXP>quests giving more EXP>party quests giving more EXPeither way, prepare to grind a lot
>>722178332The way it's looking:>Same EXP table as old school maplestoryBUT>There's more options to get EXP such as higher EXP rewards from mobs, partying without losing EXP when killing a mob, and more questing rewards
>>722160483Oddly enough Maplestory is the only game I play as a male
What classes actually need a rebalance? Page? Chief Bandit?
>>722174294I can never understand the specific concern over grinding in classic ms. How many level 200s have we seen pre-bigbang, and how many level 300s are we seeing right now in modern maple?
>>722180759Define rebalance, because most of the jobs were fine while others were "better".Even WKs were ok. Just that they basically had nothing in 3rd job which made them really boring, but they had the strongest single-target damage among the warriors.
>>722180952It's weird because there isn't even anything to do at "max level" for either classic or modern maplestory.Hell, the level 300s we have now (there are three across all servers iirc) would spend 8 hours a day just to get 1% solely because Nexon was trying to discourage people from grinding.
>that one retarded MapleStory youtuber who wants dailies and a battlepass in Classic WorldI really hope Nexon doesn't listen to these people
I hope zakum helmet becomes tradable because it was really jewish giving people 50mil and your account info just for the hope of getting a zakum helmet back in the day.
>>722182281as a low level player I never understood Zakum bossing, like when you kill Zakum does it just drop the helmet on the ground for anyone to grab it? but aren't there like 20 people there?
>>722182736I think it dropped a couple of helms but yeah
>>722175289What are you expecting other players to say to you in the current year?
>>722182736Usually a guild kills the boss and it would drop around 4 zakum helmets. It wasn't uncommon to do this run over and over again so everyone in the guild would get the zakum helmet then the rest can be sold for 50mil a piece which was alot of mesos back in the day.
>>722182281There is priority pick-up in the preview so they most likely have a similar system to modern maplestory wherein only specific people can pick up items in a party. Or better, they'll have the most recent change where drops get added to a table and are randomized/delegated by the leader.
Are Kerning and Ludi PQ confirmed at launch?Cause if they come out months later and I'm already above the level limit to join, that would be very gay
>>722183356Yes
>>722183260speaking of China, Artale is full of Chinese bots selling mesos and other shit, I really hope Classic won't be full of them
>>722183423there's an overly-aggressive anti-bot in maplestory so probably not
>>722183409
>>722183356I'm not sure if Ludibrium itself will be in at launch
Tell me your maple gf stories...
>>722183714why was everybody having a party in this poor woman's house
>>722184198why didn't she lock the door?everyone else in Henesys does
>>722184456the town bicycle
>>722181258Yeah, you stop at the relevant level for content gates. For regular players, in modern that's 285 at the moment since it's where you get the last symbol with a large stat increase. The newest bosses are generally too tough on release for anyone except the no-lifers and whales to clear, so there's no reason to get to 290 for Baldrix. If you do still want to reach that level all you're getting from symbols is extra mesos, drop rate, and exp, which is meant for helping the grind to 300.
When do we get a Maple Story 2 relaunch?
>>722186057never, it even shut down in korea this year
Unpopular opinion: Theme dungeons were cool as fuck and I would love to see shit like the og Mushroom Kingdom questline or the og Kerning City mall questiline in Classic World, despite it being somewhat modern
>>722186159ah, that explains the recent uptick of ms2 posts and threads
>>722186312They should add more theme dungeons too.New ones for earlier areas.They fleshed out the world nicely without going "OH, IT'S THE CHOSEN ONE" wherever you go.
>>7221693171st to 4th job is basically just a tutorial for your character
I miss it
Mihile and Pirates should be added. Or make WKs closer to Mihile.There isn't a class more fun than Mihile since Mihile requires you to actively guard (with a skill) instead of just passively guard everything.
>>722186941Pirates are definitely getting added in the future, anything else I'm not so sure
>>722186941I hope they don't add any non-explorers
>>722157623Bandits couldn't crit?
>>722178332If you can't get to triple digits within a year (52 weeks) on a 20 hour week then that's on you. That's assuming level 1~2 takes you 10 hours to level which isn't even the case. Levels sub 70 are never worse than 10 hours per level.
>>722182736Correct. If you're on a run and you kill Zakum you stand there and who ever was delegated to loot the Helm goes up to it and loots, then the next person, and so on.Don't be the person that impulsively loots the helm out of order, or good luck getting another Z party.
Was there any benefit to spending money back in the day? Or can this game be played fully without it?
>>722183327Only the good ones sold for that much. The bad ones sold for 2m, 10m, etc.
>>722187392I could see them adding content and classes post big bang eventually if they want the server to last long term and not just end at pink bean.
>>722188009You can play this game now without spending a single cent.The current state of Maplestory is the most free-to-play friendly it's ever been, barring the time when Cash Shop didn't even exist.
>>722188009When there was MTX naw. You'd just want a store permit so you can leave Maple on so you can sell shit in the FM. Shop permit is probably the only necessary thing.
>>722188009The gachapon used to give certain items that were hard to farm or had good slots for upgrading. I think some classes need you to buy certain items too, but that's just for extra buffs.
>>722187776only archers and assassins could crit, now everyone can, see >>722166679
>>722188009>2x exp coupons and drops that lasted for 4 hours>gacha tickets that had some BiS equips.>safety charms to avoid exp loss on death>store permits to sell stuff easily in the FM. Owls to search for items.>Vega scrolls to increase scroll success rate>Pets for faster loot and pet equips that have stats>Vicious Hammers for 2 more scrolling slots>AP Resets for HP washingThat's all I can think of right now. MapleStory was very p2w back then. They only got away with it because they were one of the first free to play games to do a cash shop model.>>722188162The damage is already done. People that played Maple before and quit will always see it as p2w. Maybe modern maple will see an uptick when classic drops if people want a more faster paced gameplay and if classic isn't a p2w mess like before.
>>722189667>Maybe modern maple will see an uptickI mean, Modern Maplestory is the most popular Maplestory has ever been for KMS and GMS. This year alone broke records for both regions.Classic Maplestory is being made because of GMS' popularity even.
>>722189769I thought classic maple is only being released cause how popular it is in KMS and maybe fan outcry as well, though if it was just fan outcry, then they would of released it years ago cause people have been asking for a classic server for a long time.
>>722191145KMS isn't even getting a classic server.
what's everyone maining?for me, it's bandit
>>722191252not "officially" at least
>>722191467I'm going Page. Aesthetics > Minmaxxing especially since I'm in the pitched waiting room with three fucking characters and have the rest of the jobs at least to level 210.
>>722191467Spearman because it's always been my main
>>722191467thinking about going Ranger
>>722188009>Was there any benefit to spending money back in the day?it was p2w with 2x coupons with exclusive gachapon scrolls and equips, marriage was a paywall with its own pq that gave decent rewards, and there was the iTCG later on that gave OP items.
>>722165704Pretty sure GW2 has jump quests
is he in?
>>722191467If (big if) I play I'm taking the Fighter Crusader pill.If only because that was my 'main character' back then. May even try to come up with a DBZ inspired name like my old Fighter had.
Why is it called a Classic WORLD and not a Classic SERVER? What's the difference?
>>722193825It's going to be in the main client of maplestory.Like reboot WORLD and interactive WORLD which each have their own servers within them
>>722191467I only got my fighter to level 61 back in the day so I'm finally going to hit 3rd job with it.
>>722191467Depends on the balance changes they make. If it ends up being MageStory like most pre-BB private servers ended up being, I'll go Cleric just because it's blatantly the best class in the game. If things are relatively balanced, I'll go Crossbowman. Double Shot cleaving and minimum shot distance being removed are both big upgrades.
>>722193592I wonder if there will be a rush to claim names
>>722194045I did notice so many private servers are filled to the brim with magicians, that's a little boring
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>classic>change everything
I wish they kept having events like this
so many fucking retards in this thread who didn't actually play maple until like 4th job which isn't classic it's noob bullshit for retarded faggotsyour opinion doesn't mean anything unless you played 2005-2006fuck you all and die
>>722189667fucking retard talking about all this newfag bulllshityou didn't play classic you only play numaple shut the fuck up retard
>>722199282>>722199451no one cares you oldtroon fag
>>722199282jump down
>>722186312>Mushroom Kingdom> Kerning City mall >oganother fucking retard SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UPPPPPPPPPdo not mention mushroom kingdom and kerning city mall and og in the same sentence. You will refer to it as newfag retard barney baby mlp toddler mushroom kingdom and nu maple noob brand new retard baby faggot toddler new kerning city mall.
>>722159570soulless but its bearable, it also means that ch1 will have a shitton of visible people doing parties which is good
>>722199161If you watched any of the videos it'd tell you that they want to recapture the Classic feeling, not just have a 1:1 recreation.Which is probably for the best. Actual old-school maplestory was terrible which is why even the private servers that ride on the "old school" label change things.
>>722199617it's just that you're a wrong fucking retarded faggot
>>722199817are you fucking retarded? no fucking shit but that's not classic. now we all know it's newfag shit after watching the videos and not classic. have fun playing this gay as fuck newfag shit though i'm not playing since it's not classic and looks like shit.
>>722191467Depends on how far the game lets you progress.If 4th job never comes, I'm going Cleric (I hate what Bishop turns them into and I have no interest in that).If 4th job does come, I'm going Spearman.
Are canonneers gonna be in the game?
>>722200087Cannoneers are not classic.
>>722200087yes they're adding everything from nu maple
>>722200138I guess you could say they're.. not canon.
>>722200138neither is anything else in """""classic""""" world
>>722200087Definitely not at release, maybe later if they add post big bang stuff if the server isn't dead by then.
>>722163345>Bosses are bullet hells where one mistake leads to dying, ending an hour long boss fight.Bosses are DPS checks with strict time windows that forced you to upgrade solely to kill them within the allotted time. Which becomes outdated when a new boss comes out with 50x the HP making you do it all over again. And upgrading is also time gated.*Fixed that for you.
>>722170387they changed everything in artale fuck i hate how no one knows what old school actually is anymore. it's not old school just know that. you will never play old school because everyone refuses to make it how it was because they're retarded. inb4 waaaaaah no wun cawe just know this because you seem to not know and i hate seeing people constantly being wrong and being confused about this
>>722165468
>>722172657https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6LIFBVhObQ
>>722199617He's a schizo troll.
>>722202605Its not a troll you fucking retard. This isnt old school. Why? Because they changed everything and added a bunch of new shit, like stuff from versions from many years later. It's not the old game. I actually played the old game so seeing all of this confusion and wrong info so much over the years pisses me off. Fucking faggot. You will know it's not old school or classic bitch.
>>722199617It's a schizo, just ignore him, at least he bumps the thread
did you shitters EVEN? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDAa1F6R4Kc
>>722203714I never had a guild that could get passed the entrance puzzle.
Anyone play the DS and 3DS games?
>>722203714I don't even know what that is so probably not
>>722203427Lol thats such a stretch. It's not like i'm spamming every thread 24/7. Just every time I check these threads or see them, I see a bunch of people who are either confused or delusional about what classic maplestory is. And i've seen it so many times now that it's obvious that people either think the version they started with is classic arbitrarily (this is retarded) or they just dont know what it was like because they didnt play (this is fine.) I do get irrationally angry about this sometimes but it's just that it's always the same misinformation being spread so much. I'll leave you guys at peace now until the next thread where I see more of the same shit. Just try to accept this isnt classic and I'll remind you in another thread in the future if I still see the same confusion.
>>722157623No one's gonna play in 2025 when it takes 10 hours per level
>>722204229I'll have you know back in the day it only took me around a week to get to level 30
>722204219
>>722204219Hmm yet it says it's classic, and I'm not an autist who is fixated on version 1.0 of a game. I think it's classic
>>722203714all you had to do was meso bomb ergoth, you could drop the meso stacks right where he spawned before even summoning him.gpq is a piece of content I do think was good even though i consider its release outside of the "classic" era
>>722204229I played a 1x server some months ago and I managed to get close to level 50 in two weeks. The grind is brutal but it's not nearly as bad as people remember. Someone with more free time than me (I have a job, unfortunately) can probably reach 3rd job level in a month on 1x EXP, though it might take longer since classic looks to be only launching with Victoria Island.
>>722204351>no argumentbtw i get laid and you don't
>>722204381yeah it says classic but it isn't. that's why retards like you are confused. thankfully I'm around so some people who don't know can be less confused.
>>722204618Thanks for the bumps. Keep seething btw
>>722204741i don't give a fuck about bumping the thread but keep on being gay
>>722202129Would
>>722203714>get to this guy>you just fucking insta-die if you get hit
>>722204381the point was that the game was better in earlier versions and I'm not talking about v1.0, I'm talking about the game up until a certain point. I just don't want people who actually don't know to think the game was always this soulless p2w shit. it was always unbalanced but the unbalance got a lot worse. and they made decisions that made no sense later on. that's all I want people to know. in my opinion the oldest versions were way better than what we got later on but now I see people considering these versions as classic and completely ignoring that there were versions before it that I see as much better and more thought out. yeah there's more shit thrown in but it was carelessly added, they could have done a much better job adding newer content. now they're making "classic world" and it's just not classic, they're changing random shit as they please like it's a private server, so just play a private server because nexon is an evil company that shouldn't be supported, you have to admit that at least.
>>722205475and the game just became way more unfun and it's because they made terrible decisions. mainly all of the flat maps that you need to be lobotomized to be able to deal with and becoming obnoxiously p2w.
and the reason I get so angry is because it was my favorite game in the older versions and it really goes to absolute shit so of course it makes me angry. especially with the history of the game basically being wiped and rewritten ecause no one knows about it anymore and them calling this made up version of the game "classic" that's completely different. it just fucking sucks to see whenever I see any discussion about this game.
>>722205864The game had a reputation for sucking, but it had charm. Big bang was where everything got better.
>>722157623THIS IS MY MOST HYPED GAME IN ALL OF GAMING RIGHT NOW. MY HOPE IN MMOS IS RESTORED
>>722157623>Every class can Crit by themselves, even Mages and WarriorsThis just makes Archers even shittier than they already were and will be even less likely to be invited to parties if their Sharp Eyes isn't as valuable.
This shows when content was released in the pre-BigBang Maplestory.
>>722163345>Hours for a single levelYou didn't play did you. It wasn't hours. It was DAYS. Good luck even getting to level 70. That is for mega autists
>All those changes>But god forbid we let people play as PiratesIf it's already not going to be actually Classic, just let me play my Buccaneer.
>>722206178I don't even remember how long it took me to get to 70 with one character, it doesn't help that back then I would exclusively do PQs, I trained from level 10 all the way to 71 only in PQs
Will there be HP washing?Will there be P2W in the Cash Shop?Are secondary stats going to be enforced more so every character isn't just wearing a bathrobe, maple weapon and a bamboo hat?
>>722206534watching the video, it's clear that Nexon knows about dexless sins, they gave a bathrobe to the assassin character kek
>>722205959it sucked dick for a few years when big bang hit already, yeah. the older versions we got of the game from 2005-2006 and guild pq from 2007 were actually fun. even 2006 was flawed because that's the year when they starting adding all of the p2w bullshit even though aqua road had good mechanics and fun gameplay. then they add a flat map that's the most boring shit in the world as the next end game area and all this p2w. then more and more flat maps and fucked up decisions. big bang just seemed like more pussy shit to me and made the game more retarded when it was already fucked up. it's fucking garbage man I'll just never agree with you on this. I liked the mechanics of the actual oldest versions much more. big bang was giga bland and sterilized for the dumbest of the dumbest 5-year-olds to take their money. and at this point it's a completely different game that has changed so much tons of times but we all know this.
>>722206065People didn't play archers for damage. They played archers because it was cool to rain arrows.
>>722206296They're rewriting all the code. Pirates will definitely happen but not immediately.
>>722206832For me it was strafe, it's still my favorite skill in the whole game
WHEN DOES IT RELEASE? WHEN? WHEN IS IT COMING OUT? I NEED MORE INFO
>>722205475Do you really think people will take you seriously when there are posts like this>>722159570where even a basic change that allows for more people to play the content they want to play instead of waiting in line is considered a bad change? Not to mention any post where you fly into an autistic rage.
>>722206979Most likely early 2026, but they'll probably announce a release date on October 25th
>>722207013I didn't even make that post but I agree with him. not having to outclick another party to get in is baby mode and completely changes the experience. yeah it's qol but I'm not a baby bitch. that's the difference between people like me and you, we like the struggle and it makes it more memorable and fun for us like we're actually playing a game and not some railroaded boring shit. and I fly into an autistic raid because everyone who talks about this game is always really retarded and a pussy and it's sickening.
Apparently armor was useless in OSMS, I hope they fix it
>>722207646Not useless, just wasn't a major difference. I have to do some digging but there was a video on this topic.
>>722207646lukless mages did more damage but you would see them dying nonstop unless they were extremely good. but one lag spike or mistake and they're fucked. it's really not like lukless was strictly and easily better in the way that everyone thinks unless you were buying tons of safety charms. a luk cleric that actually has gear isn't going to be dying constantly. yeah you would ideally want to choose more damage, but if some shitter is running that build and dying constantly because they have no defense when they need to be healing you and also losing all of their exp and wasting time constantly then they're way less useful.
i hope the next update goes back in time and stops my brother from marrying and remarrying a series of terrible shrews so he wouldnt stop playing maple story with me.
>>722208060we can never truly go back but at least make it the same game if you're going to call it classic is all I'm saying. even if they patch the game and eventually add all of the shit i don't like, at least gives us the same patches unchanged.
>>722207646It's not. This is obvious with pures. The issue is if you were a shitter who got hit, it doesn't matter how much armor you have. You'll be dead weight. It's simply better to burst down the enemy with high damage than try to play jump quest.
corsairs should have speed infusion too
the only way i would play this nu-classic version is maybe if they add hardcore ironman mode like osrs did. then i might try to see how far i can get without dying or trading. but it's still all gonna be different and shitty and easy.
>>722208393>one lag spike>dead
>>722208345It's literally all buccaneers have, bro
>>722208419>dk>jump on a rope if it starts lagging and log off>never boss because if it lags during a boss you're just fucked so nothing I can do about that
What areas are you guys looking forward to seeing the most?Personally I can't wait for the Haunted House to be released, love this place
>>722208835I just want to do PQs again. Everything else will be rediscovered, but the PQs are the main draw for me
This game better have tons of Asian women so I can finally get a gf
What was your reaction when you first watched this?https://youtu.be/OSghymgGqSQ
>>722208884KPQ is obviously already confirmed to be there at launch, but everything else will probably take a while
>>722208210honestly you can make arguments for high dex warriors too because they'll actually be hitting shit with no funding and not missing which is dogshit. also being able to hit higher level mobs earlier. yeah it's shittier damage but at least you can hit it. but as you get better equipment and higher level you're always going to want to be able to reset stats. if there were no resets for some reason or you're strictly f2p then the trade off is that you have to train on lower level shit mobs way longer and have a bunch of shit you can't hit until you make really good gear. even if you sometimes hit the endgame mobs, but miss occasionally then you're getting dogshit exp even if you're just slightly under 100% accuracy. however resets were always a thing so just use those. if the p2w was only resets and safety charms that would be a lot more reasonable in my opinion because it's not like you'll be paying a fuckton of money unless you die constantly and/or you're trying to minmax a statless character. it's way less egregious than 2x and gach which effects everyone.
>>722208925BASED
>>722208925>They should make a game like this called Maplestory 2
>>722208925This is exactly how the game feels to play in my mind.
Some QoL features I want:>Monthly log-in rewards with things like a free month of shop for the FM>No Minerva Owls but an NPC that searches for you>Presets still existing so you can swap between regular gear and speed gear on the fly >No XP coupons ever but allow for party members to grind together with no loss of XP (i.e. a monster giving 100 XP gives the one who killed the monster 100 XP and everybody else on the map 100 XP)>Increased PQ rewards to allow for later PQs to be comparable to full-party grinding
>>722209151also even pets used to do basically nothing before they added the item loot and potting shit. you could just make them do stuff with commands which was kinda fun and they would follow you around. the most use they had was when you leveled them up enough where you could make them say stuff which was slightly useful when trying to sell items but that's it.
>>722209904your mind needs better 3D models
>>722160483A little tempted since female gear is typically cheaper and lets be honest most of the male cosmetics and hairstyles are dogshit.
>>722157623Man, my friends and I played from 2004-2008 and we loved the shit out of the game. We even met girls irl through the guild we were in. I had a cleric and an assassin, and maybe a couple other characters. I feel like I’d need to read old build guides from that era to even remember how character progression works, aside from going to your classes respective town for advancement.>>722206534What the fuck is HP washing?
>>722210724>What the fuck is HP washing?some newfag shit you only needed for horntail and was only possible after 4th job nukes were added, so not classic
>>722210724>what is hp washingStat manipulation using AP resets to effectively get more hp than you would normally have through leveling, allowing squishier characters to grind in areas around their level without risking being one or two shot. Also was basically required for stronger bosses since the only threat they had was one shotting you.
>>722208835I loved finding some secluded portion of the forest outside Ellinia and farming with friends, and it felt like a journey getting to Orbis and Ludibrium.
Is scroll RNG manipulation an actual thing?
>>722211295No but then again everybody plays on Reboot and Reboot doesn't have scrolling so who knows.
>>722206534As long as the Magic Attack and Magic Accuracy formulas remain how they are, there will never ever ever ever be a reason for a Magician to add LUK.
>>722210127i've thought about how they'd monetize itseems to me that given the strategy of chasing the western osrs/classic wow playerbase, they'd do some sort of sub feeso im guessing (hoping) that a monthly bundle gets you a bunch of cash items for significantly lower than they'd normally cost separatelyand then that's the baseline they balance progression around
>>722212052As long as they take the QoL shit off the store (non-cosmetic pet shit, owls, permits, charms, scrolls, tickets etc) they can sell as many gay hats and pet skins as they want. People love cosmetic crap anyway so they should be able to make more than enough money without needing to gate actual game mechanics behind NX cash.
Artale is so fucking janky, holy shitClassic can't come soon enough
The faggot is unironically named >RebuiltTransAre you fucking serious?
>>722214456It's California, what did you expect? Their water is laced with arsenic.
How much of the Classic World population will be Clerics?
>>722215173depends on the balancing changes
>>722212587that's how it originally was and I mean actually originally not "when i started playing" originally
Are dexless bandits a thing? Do people usually do that?
>>722214456one of the oldest maplestory videos I have is actually by someone named TranPride/FamousTran and it was a montage of different classes training before 3rd job. I know it's not the same person but it's somewhat interesting. I had no idea what that even was back then.
Will (you) be making a guild with your friends, joining a /v/ guild, or trying to make a guild with randoms?
>>722215508I'm not going to join a guild until I hit level 70
>>722215339Despite the Korean Fan, a dexless dagger, predating the Maple weapons, they still weren't as common for a couple reasons. The main ones being that, unlike Lucky Seven, Double Stab and later Savage Blow relied more on Attack than LUK (as opposed to Lucky Seven's Weapon Attack = LUK formula) so there was less incentive to minmax. Alongside that, Meso Explosion (the main thing they're known for) has its own damage formula that your stats had no effect on so normal DEX and DEXless Chief Bandits did the same damage.They still existed, but they weren't as popular.
>>722215236so far we know they buffed Holy Arrow
>>722160483I hate dogs.
did they add the grand exchange
>>722215639Is bandit expensive to level?
>>722215339Very early on, yes, up to a certain point. Dragon's Toenail wasn't in the drop pool and the Bazlud was a Str dagger, so people opted to use the Korean fan (no dex req) for as long as they could. They often skipped the Shinkita due to the Fast(5) attack speed. Maple Daggers didn't exist and the Deadly Fin/Kandine were prohibitively expensive for people to upgrade to.
>>722182038Listening to these fucking retards is what killed MS2 in the West.
>>722191467I/L for me but I could be convinced otherwise depending on how much we know about job rebalances by the time it launches.
>>722215772At 2nd job they are basically faster warriors that have half the HP and use more MP.At 3rd job, they're as expensive as any non-Priest job. Unless you decide to level using Meso Explosion. Fat EXP gains in exchange for being forever a poorfag.
>>722215508Only one of my friends will be playing so my choices are randoms, /v/, or discord. Don't really have much of a choice but see if you fags can produce a decent guild.
you play bandit for style points
Have they announced an official release date?
>>722216602We'll know more after the con in LA.
I SWEAR if they don't add FJ to chief banditswhy the HELL does the ranged counterpart (that's already better in every aspect) get the mobility skill?>b-but the melee att-archers don't get mobility skills so just DEAL WITH IT
>>722215508I would have to see if my friends would even give a shit to play again. The guys I used to play MS with only really play League now and occasionally fotm shit and most of them are engaged or married now. Most likely it’ll be /v/
>>722211295You can't manipulate it, you just get a fuck ton of scrolls and items and use your gut when to change items and scrolls. Depending on certain items it's probably worth throwing two 10%s on the first two slots. If at least one passes you still have a good item if it's a weapon or an overall. With other items it's first slot 10% or nothing.
>>722215508A lot of them don't even have arrow keys anymore and use those mini keyboards and 12button mice. Is it possible to play with a controller? Would probably work and could convince a few if you can
>>722208028Naw. I see luckless and clerics that use luck items eat shit. It's part of the parcel for the class. They only need to survive one hit and they can full heal with Heal. Problem is that there are some limitations to heal unlike HP potions so that's why you see Priests eating shit.
>>722217053It'll probably be possible.Hell, I exclusively use a controller for modern maplestory and that has a shit-load of buttons.
>>722206296I bet Pirate's is to hook people back into the game when interest wanes.
>>722208925Epic.
>>722217053You can play with a touch screen phone.
>>722215508I won't join a guild for the early levels. I hate guildfags
>>722157623I only played up to the 2nd job way back in the day, how diverse is potential build varieties? Can you make a sort of weird build work or is there just one agreed upon 'optimal' build?
>>722217370there is pretty much 1 optimal build for every class
>>722217370OG MS is pretty solved in terms of optimal builds, and there were huge disparities in class strength on top of that. We can already tell they're doing some rebalancing based on the gameplay they've shown, so nobody really knows how diverse build potential will be in this release. Hopefully a lot better though.
>>722216698buff assaulter to act as mage teleport but still deals damage when you teleport across a row of mobs
>>722217065in some situations I'm pretty sure I recall that it was the difference between getting 2 shot (harder) or 3 shot and that you needed either def or godly hp equips like for grims, both of which are going to cut into your damage.
>>722217370at very best it's a matter of capitalp2w people can minmax their stats by using specialized equips that help out in minmaxingrest are more fringe picks that you build when you're bored and have spare time and money, not something actually workable
>>722216378meso explosion is the best dps so they were undeniably the best at zakum
>>722191467Xx_D3xl3ss_Ass4s1n_xX
>>722215687you have no soul
>dying in kpqNigga who did they invite to this shit LOL. They just picked the biggest retards? This server is going to be my bitch.
>>722217370there are definitely weird builds you can do that are useful in extremely specific situations
>>722217825I don't condone this shit for not being 100% unchanged vanilla or i'd be using next level strats you guys won't even be able to dream of unless you played the actual old game for thousands of hours. I promise you I know way too much about this shit but only if it's actually old school and not changed at all and 100% authentic to the original game. but i'm not playing this because I don't support calling it classic yet changing it and I don't support nexon because they're pieces of shit for way more reasons than just changing the game. if you want to prove me wrong go ahead and guess what kind of strats I'm talking about but I sincerely doubt anyone will get it right.
here's my fun idea for chief bandit:band of thieves gets reworked into a buff from a mobbing skillduring the buff, when you attack there's a chance to summon a few shadow clones that will pop and attack nearby enemies, essentially being a chance to trigger band of thieves on hitmultiple clones can hit the same enemy if there are just a fewserves to be shadower's counterpart to shadow partner that helps out on melee mobbing
>>722157623So when is it supposed to come out?
>>722218249it's definitely a cool idea but not classic
>>722218249yes, and +10 LUK for having "azn" in your ign.
bandit is only fun until you get savage blow and then every skill learned after that is dogshit garbage and boring
>>722218419wrong, meso explosion is the best dps in the game. you're right that it's dogshit if you mean having to copy and paste mesos and click 24/7 though. I would never want to main a cb and click all day at all.
>>722218232did you know if you click and drag the bottom right pixel of the gameguard splash screen, you can only drag it up and left, but not right and down
>>722218249Sounds a lot like Sol Janus: Dusk. It's a level 260+ common skill for 6th job that often gets overlooked for its counterpart 'Sol Janus: Dawn'.While Dawn allows you to drop down a massive summon that damages enemies around it, Dusk attacks enemies around you passively as you attack.
>>722218554I'll be honest I was never dragging around the gameguard splash screen and I'm talking about in-game specifically, but if that's true that's some cool trivia. if I ever heard about that or knew then I forgot I admit.
>>722188009Is that Alanah AIsloppa?
>>722157623Is this going to have the same slow level curve as classic maple story? Bigbang exp is too fast to explore classic maple story, but it's only because of that faster exp curve that I was ever able to actually do some of the content in the game at all.
>>722219026So far it's confirmed that the old EXP tables are being used but there might be greater sources of EXP.
So what will happen when the client goes down for 12 hours for current GMS update?When there are emergency updates for current GMS?Or when there are client wide issues caused by current GMS update?will classic get any compensation?I get that they're using the same client for money saving purposes and this whole "gateway" thing but how are they going to prepare for these situations?
>>722219152I'll tell you jump down being included alone is already going to give you more exp. it wasn't in the original game in case there's someone that doesn't know this. I think it's a trash addition for dumbasses.
>>722219321another reason I'm not going to play this is having to use the bloated client which is a waste of space
>>722219026big bang changed basic mechanics and formulas of the game to make it more retard proof
>>722219376I keep seeing people mention “jump down”. Is this literally what it sounds like and just being able to jump down from platforms on the map instead of having to walk everywhere?
>>722218710You could continuously purchase an item from an NPC until they are out of stock. You can clip out of bounds in the 2nd map of DRPQ, skipping the entire jump quest by skywalking above the map.You can log out of the user on windows XP, log into another user, and run a second instance of Maplestory on the same computer.There was a way to walk around with a mini game box above your head that required a specific combination of keys held and a frame perfect click. You could enable auto-walk by turning off numlock, pressing and holding 4 or 6 on your num pad, and re-enabling numlock.
>>722219903>peopleit's unironically one dude obsessed with it
>>722219945>You could continuously purchase an item from an NPC until they are out of stock.never did this, not sure if it was added later or not>DRPQafter my time>log into another usermy friends and I used multiple computers>mini game box above your headnever did this. was this how people also got shops on top of each other?>auto-walknever did this either but seems uselessI wasn't fucking around when I played, I wanted exp, I never had a maple gf because I just wanted to level more and I only cared about some e-gf and had real girlfriends somehow. this is interesting to know though for sure. what I'm talking about is weird ways to level faster that I know that I doubt other people itt know. but you might know since you know all of this obscure shit.
>>722220337>and I only cared about some e-gfI mean I only cared about exp not some e-gf
here's a hint for one of the strats: I know how to make an hp mule in 3 days. think about that when you're grinding your cleric and remember how long it takes you to get to 81.
>>722220476hs mule*
>>722219903Yes. It was added to the original game a few years into its lifespan, and it'll be there day 1 for MS Classic.
>>722219969I'm hardly obsessed with them adding jump down I just know it's casualized shit that really ruins the experience
>>722164568disgusting
>>722220679my thoughts exactly. they did the same for holy arrow. lmao there was no reason to buff a 2nd job class that's already op like that. now they'll have to buff shining ray too
I'm ok with pirates but I really hope they stop at that, fuck Cygnus Knights
>>722221076they should completely revamp cyggies, just way later into classic's lifespan>no longer explorers reskin+some op skills>added benefits removed>3rd job gutted>4th job added>flashier compared to explorers but weakerobviously not talking about the actual revamp that happened after big bang
>>722221076yeah I don't think pirates are actually a bad edition either. the reasons why I would rather not have them are kind of petty>adds more equips to the drop table so more chances to get an equip to npc or sell for mesos, naturally making the game slightly easier>remembering not having any new classes for so long and thinking they would never add another (I know sin was added earlier on and wasn't in the first versions of the game for kms)but if it's 3rd job only then pirates are actually pretty shit. just the nautilus area has some lame op quests that give too much exp for little effort and it changes some of the og map slightly. it isn't a horrible addition that makes the game unplayable for me. even with 4th job which is newfag garbage ruined territory for me, pirates aren't that good. just corsair 4th job does good dps unfunded but a funded nl will still outdamage them. and i kind of like speed infusion as a buff idea.
>>722221368and I hated ck when it came out and thought everyone with a ck was a subhuman shitter to be honest
>>722221368addition*
Should probably start picking up some w10 laptops boomers are throwing away for my mules >:)
>>722193236Mr. Smith has arrived.
>>722219026Might have the same exp curve, but if spawn rates are altered and if the changes make classes a bit more powerful then you might still train faster than in OSMS. I say that because in Artale they souped up some skills. Arrow Rain/Arrow Eruption got an addition damage boost that made then train much faster than their OSMS counterparts. Shouldn't be doing 10k crits with AR/AE without Sharp Eyes.
>>722222001>spawn rates are alterednow that you mention it, that might be one of the reasons why they made Holy Arrow and Fire Arrow hit multiple times so Clerics and F/P have mobbing capabilities to keep up
>>722157623Why would I play this when there’s several decent private servers out there where you can get the full classic experience free? Free pets, free shops, free gacha tickets. They have issues, hp washing sucks, but Nexon classic is pretty much guaranteed to have at least one bullshit p4convenience crap, most likely more than oneEven fucking reboot has been sliding down the p2w barrel for the last few years, antithesis to the entire point of the server. I guarantee there’s going to be one piece of bullshit that just completely ruins the vibe just like everything nexon touches. It’s a feature of every single one of their games, they just literally cant help themselves
>>722222397You can go and play the private serves, but it won't have the population an official server will have.
>classic was good
>the people they invited for the playtest didn't even remember how to do KPQ>they were surprised you don't respawn after dyingWho the fuck are these people?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMlLor7TxyE
>>722222632>CaliforniaWe've been over this.
>>722222445but it will be better lole
>>722222591Used by Priests. Sure there are plenty of garbage scrolls, but others have their niche cases. Even 10% helmet def is okay since it gives +1 accuracy.
>>722222632you had to be over level 200 in gms to join the playtest which already makes no sense. no one that played old school maple would be fucking 200, only fangblade and curryishott. so that already makes 0 sense. you also had to be a faggot too and a retard.
>>722222683Having a concentrated population and an already insular community isn't very appealing. You can play it, but I'd rather have something else.
>>722222709wow someone that actually knows what they're talking about, respect
>>722157623Have they confirmed which version of the Maple Island tutorial we're getting?
>>722222709I meant just the fact that 10% scrolls exist in the first place, and that they're rare, you can only use one scroll per item, and if it fails its gone
>>722222397Why do you ask that as if you couldn't play a private server already and then, when the official one is out, determine if it's worth playing after the fact?
>>722157623OH MY GOD THIS IS SO HECKIN AWESOMEIT WILL BE JUST LIKE THE OLD TIMESWELL EXCEPT IM NOW A MAN BABY AND THE GAME IS STILL KINDA SHITIM SURE THE NEW MEMORIES WE BE AWESOME
>>722222861the one before the green apple costume
will they still make it so mages have to decide between only using magic bolt to save skill points, or getting magic claw and spending real money on a skill reset to get the wasted points back?
>>722222993How’s life going fren? Everything okay?
>>722223110Thank fuck
>>722222893i passed 3 10%s out of 7 slots on a 3 dex green bamboo. I know others that have passed 3 10%s in a row. but you have to try a shit ton or get insanely lucky. fuck dummy scrolling just drop them on. I was buying all green bamboos and 10% def from all kpqers as much as possible. so it was 3 dex +4 acc and this is before helmet for accuracy scrolls existed. so really helm def 10% was the end game scroll for helmets to get more acc for classes that needed it.
>>722223114Wtf are you talking about? Why would you need your points back?
>applied to nexon for QA on their classic shit>have over 8 years of relevant experience>they also specifically required people have a prerequisite of playing before the big bang update>i also met this criteria>they said nofuckers
>>722223237>celebrating shitty dice rolls as gameplay because your younger self got a hard-on from that girl in Henesys>>722223273Magic Claw didn't upgrade into anything, so any points you put into it were worthless beyond helping you level up so you could get your second job's primary attack spell
>>722223114wtf are you talking about, you needed to get mp boost immediately
>>722223350weird projection but yeah dice rolls were part of the game faggot. omg pwease nerf poker i'm too much of a shitter faggot and need it to be like a slideshow ;_;
>>722223350You can't allocate 1st job skills for 2nd job skills. What else are you gonna use it on if not magic claw? Magic Armor?
>>722222632I'm confident they took in anyone who said they knew what Maplestory was. Just the absolute retardation in these playtest videos hurts to watch because nothing is really being tested. I need my pserver niggas to get in there and really test things.
>>722157623Fuck maplestoryhttps://youtu.be/oPjMTiNTia4?si=IO4FT69byyOEJK2b
>>722223119cant complain. would really appreciate if they stopped releasing the same fucking game one billion times and just make new cool games.what about you?
>>722223398>gambling is fine>why is no one playing my nostalgia game :(((Every fucking classic reiteration ends up this way. Everyone gets hyped for the nostalgia, then once it releases they remember why the game either died or had to be overhauled after a while. Didn't this shit already happen with that Big Bang crap? /v/ wouldn't shut the fuck up about it, and when it finally released no one cared about it anymore
and I'll have you know not only did I play actually classic maple but I'm also a luckchad
>>722223548weren't most of those fixed just a few months after?
>>722223445>>722222632You niggers need to understand that what they wanted 'tested' is how retards are interacting with the game since that is the audience all developers are.99.99% of the people who would be playing aren't going to be lasering in on what the exp per hour is at a level bracket while using a certain skill with a specific party comp.
>>722223620Idk, I just watch YouTube videos and get angry
>>722223620No. All of the issues niru had were mostly affecting the interactive servers and those still remain FUCKED since the overwhelming majority of GMS plays on Reboot since it's super F2P
>>722223612They released the classic maplestory one billion times? That's weird. I must have been too busy playing different games to notice.
>>722223350Gambling on items is part of the game. You get some high highs, and some low lows. It feels good landing some low percentage chance scrolls after a ton of failures.
>>722223616well it's not going to actually be classic so I'll understand if it fails and not give a shit because I'm not playing it either because they failed me. big bang was for shitters. the actual game is good but no one understands this and none of you had a chance to play it. they changed it solely to make more money and because they didn't know what the fuck they were doing because they had no vision and simply bought the game and were too greedy and just didn't get it.
>>722223694bro the core issue with reg isn't something that can just be "fixed" magicallyi meant things that can actually be addressed and be fixed like the frag stuff and server merge
>>722223616What percentage of the starting player base do you think will actually get to end game to claim that the game would die because of scrolling?
>>722223350You have enough points in 1st job to max Mp Recovery, Mp Gain, Magic Claw, and Magic Guard. You literally don't need anything else there - Energy Bolt and Magic Armor were trash.
>>7222232374 10%s out of 7 i meant
>>722223790Then clarify what you mean because responding to niru's video going "uhhh didn't they fix it?" doesn't explain SHIT
>>722223616>Every fucking classic reiteration ends up this way. Everyone gets hyped for the nostalgia, then once it releases they remember why the game either died or had to be overhauled after a whileExamples?
>>722223864he's probably talking about some quick grab pservers that eventually added too much bloat or p2w
>>722223712>no one understands this and none of you had a chance to play itBut I started all the way back during the beta, anon…
>>722223702yeah maybe take that dildo out of your ass aswell
>>722223919and you don't think it turned to shit after aqua?
>>722223864This>classic wow>"REAL MOTHERFUCKING SHIT? FUCK YEAH">like 4 yours later>"that was so much fun! I missed wow so much" >never fucking play it ever again
There's no point in speculating things that we haven't seen yet.Especially if you believe Maplestory is dying or think Classic will be monetized. It just shows how out of touch you are.
>>722223934projection because you sound like a lost fag and I'm not even the anon you're replying to
>>722223948>EVERY SINGLE ONE NEEDS TO SHARE THE EXACT SAME OPINION AS MEretarded npc
>>722223964Hours* not yours, and definitely not years
>>722223964Why are you writing blogposts on your experience in classic mmos? Let me guess, got cook's assistant done in osrs and then called it?
>>722223989>out of touch>nexon>thinking they won't heavily monetize itHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA man you have to be a kid to even think this HAHAHAHAHAHA>>722223996I'm asking his opinion retard, if it was you then I don't believe you anyway because you already said some beyond fucktarded shit
>>722223948About the time they introduced pirates is when the game lost me.
>>722160483Fuck, look at how happy she is.>HUMANITY RESTORED
>>722223989>Maplestory is dying or think Classic will be monetized.Do you think it wasn't monetized when it was just Maplestory? Do you think I have a ton of nexon prepaid cards somewhere in my parent's house because they didn't monetize the game?
>MapleStory Classic World thread>you sound like a lost fag>also you are projectingAYEronic
>>722224058I ain't never played osrs
>>722215687Yes, you're a terrible person we know
>>722224062>>722224116>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>UHM ACKSHUALLY IT WAS MONETIZED TWENTY YEARS AGO IT'S GONNA ONLY BE WORSE NOW I REMEMBER HAVING TO BEG FOR NX CARDS JUST TO DO ANYTHINGYeah thanks for proving my point guys.
i have a crush on nemi, the woman responsible for a huge part of my childhood
>>722224108based, but looking back on it do you think himes was a really boring end game map because of being flat? just imagine grind a flat map for thousands of hours after aqua was end game which required movement and had a lot of good mechanics, there are some parts of that map that a lot of people wouldn't even know about unless they were there for 1000s of hours which I don't want to spoil or just tell people because it's actually pretty complex
>>722224201You weren't there little nigga. We all know it.
>>722223934Not sure where that's coming from.
>>722224201thanks for proving you're a completely retarded lost shitter noob. I bought nx with paypal before nx cards existed because that was the only way. and they didn't have 2x or anything you needed like apq for apples either. apples also ruined the game badly.
>>722224062>>722224116not sure how the monetization will gopretty sure the whole classic thing is just an ip expansion stunt so making it way too p2w will only hurt it plus no matter how big classic gets it will only contribute little to the entire ip (which makes a ton)but at the same time if it does succeed and bring in a good amount of players it will still be a decent chunk of incomefor now I think it will be the same as the old monetization, plus the owl
>>722224274you sounded like a homo but thats a cool picture
>>722224108reasonable since the game was shittier than it was before when they added pirates
>>722224142you're a fucking faggot, then.
>>722224309Considering GMS' revenue they'll probably follow Reboot's monetization since that's where all the money comes from. Also why Nexon abandoned the interactive servers while making an effort to maintain GMS' popularity with new content for Reboot.
>>722224458you can't just compare current monetization with classic's when the games are completely differentbut essentially it's mainly just gonna be cosmetics with some qolhopefully they make the cosmetics perma
>>722224527>hopefully they make the cosmetics permalol it's nexon please understand that nexon will never give a fuck about you and will always cuck you, i'm telling you now to just accept this. I guess you'll learn later if you don't believe me. don't play a nexon game ever there's no chance for it to be good.
>>722224527>you can't just compare current monetization with classic's when the games are completely differentI'm sorry anon I wasn't aware that they were going to suddenly replace the ones handling Classic Maplestory with the old head who decided to bring in gachapon and 2x cards decades ago
>>722157623>Warriors still miss a lotIs dexless/15dex warrior still the way to play warrior until second job?
Alright, bros. Be honest. Will you give Nexon money? Personally, I'll buy pet autopot. Maybe a hair coupon if I play as a girl.
>>722224617I don't know, the Warrior from the video had 30 DEX at level 30 and was missing a lot against King Slime
>>722223548>he makes this video>within 2 weeks he caved and immediately went back to playing 14 hours a day
>>722159908half the fun for me was being able to track the names of who went in and sniping their position
>>722224652I wholly believe we'll be getting a free pet and the ability to revive them trough RP. That'll be more than enough for me.
>>722224606inkwell's literally the one who did the big bang update lmaoand dude protected the ""f2p"" server from dyingthere's a bit of hopium
>>722224617>15 dexyou made that upthe godliest min maxer would have 20 and was at pigs til lvl 30
>>722224527the gacha cosmetics are permanent
>>722224707You don't get to level 300 because you hate Maplestory anon
>>722224652pet autopot is for FUCKING RETARDSgood thing it was all laggy and shitty back then and still made all the fags who bought it die and exposed them. I hope they don't have it and if they do I hope they still can't figure out how to code it.
>>722224656According to accuracy calculator, a level 30 with 30 dex has 0% chance to hit king slime.
>>722224768This. He pulled this shit because he loves the game but hates how it's being handled. And most non-bug people will agree with that sentiment.
>>722224707he's autistic so you can't really blame him but he's also pretty funny judging from the 1 time i watched him and I respect that he at least tried to make a statement like that.
>>722224652Yeah, my little char gonna look cute as fuck too. Maybe even right when I get to victoria.
>kimetsu collab last year>frieren collab this yearwtfis japan maple even alive? or is nexon just that desperate
Any news if this is going to be on mobile/console?
>>722224776Wait, that was in retail? I thought it was just some private servers that had that issue. I never bought NX so I never realized.Dang. Learn something new every day.
>>722224617First job really doesn't matter with that. Enemies often just don't have enough HP to matter, none the less your low Mastery level. We either won't see many dexless warriors since a lack of Zakum Helm access, or accuracy gloves and potentially weapons being common for warriors to tide them over until we get Zakum.
>>722224989Collabs are basically free exposure.>pay $20,000,000 in advertisingvs.>spend a few weeks making crossover contentIt's a no brainer.
>>722225042it's the same client as current GMS so nobut KMS did introduce a sort of mobile crossplay but you need the game to be on on your pc
>>722210793schizo
What I really wanna know is if they're gonna do events like they used to, those were always so much fun
>>722225043yeah because it wasn't frame perfectly healing you every time you needed to get healed and sometimes you would get hit before it had a chance to heal you
>current hard drive only has 100 GB left>most of that gonna be eaten up by the bloated MS client just to play ClassicTiresome
>>722225057Neat. I'll just up it to 40 then.
>>722225093What's GMS and KMS?
I hope the classic world shares the name pool with the current servers so I could use my stockpiled IGNs while prebabbys struggle for a name because their old characters were pruned.
>>722225113how is it schizo if I'm right? you're acting like a baby.
>>722225138Most likely. Modern Maplestory has two major events and three minor events every year, spanning the entire year. These events are also different depending on region.No doubt they'll do the same for classic since it's also exponentially easier to build around.
>>722225057you should never have accuracy gloves as a dexless warrior, that's a noob trap. attack gloves are always strictly better.
>>722225145current gms takes up 50gbnot sure how much classic will take up more but most resources should be shared so shouldn't be much more
>>722225145don't play this dogshit bro it's not classic it's just another cashgrab from ne卐on
>>722225184sorry schizofaggot, 4th job is classic. Go play a .01a server if you wanna piss and whine
>>722225229Accuracy gloves are fine if you stumble into them, but yeah if you can get accuracy elsewhere you absolutely should. Especially if you're a non-Spearman Warrior since Stonetooth requires 120 DEX anyway.
>>722225298>t.wonderkingmarketerNice try pal, we're not playing that shit.
>>722225314ok thanks noob retard for the retarded childish input
>>722225352me neither schizo
>>722225229It is preferable to have attack gloves, but when your options are low to supplement your accuracy issues and you are so stubborn in now investing points into dex then it'll tide you over. Obviously you'll go from accuracy shoes to dex shoes and want a cape that allows you to do the most damage, but sometimes being able to advance to the next training spot to get a higher percent per hour than you current one then you'll do what you gotta do.
>>722225432>accuracy shoes to dex shoeshaving accuracy shoes is better than dex because dex gives you 0.8 acc and each accuracy stat gives you 1 acc
They should give page a party skill and CB flash jump like sins
>>722225485for wk maybe since they're the worst class but that's also kind of their thingfor cb no they're very good already
>>722225319>Stonetoothtoo nu for megame was better before that came out
>>722225468For accuracy yes, but dex shoes give you damage along with jump and speed if a 10% lands. It's something people will eventually transition into when they get Zhelms for its massive accuracy boost.
>game was better before x came outjust sounds like>life was better before i was bornto me
>>722225485They should just rework WK entirely their entire 3rd job is so fucking abysmal and not even in the fun meme way.>Three elemental charges and charged blow>A shield mastery>HP healing (personal)>Magic crash (for a low chance of removing enemy buffs until maxed out)>>>>>>Combat OrdersWhat a terrible class.
>>722225485>They should give page a party skillWK was only cool because of how dogshit page was.>CB fjshut the FUCK UP, just give every fucking class FJ! Why not TP while we're at it???
>>722225703tp sucks compared to fj
>>722225693charged blow is the only thing bad about itwk is actually pretty decent as long as you bother looking up where the train
>>722225693i mean CO is "fine", tho ig its only really useful for rez and MW and w/e else
>>722225728>2nd job skill sucks compared to 3rd job skillWhat a shocker.
>>722225693Elemental damage in general is too gimmicky in this game
>>722225834>flying around the map is fasterwoooowww
>>722225861This. All it does it is pigeonhole you into specific maps where as other classes can freely train anywhere.
>>722225728wooooooooooow, what if we had every class deal the same amount of damage???? Maybe everything could get a DECENT version of every buff!
>>722225861Pretty much, unless it is holy damage which they don't get until 4th job. How many lightening weak enemies are there? How many are viable training spots? Then ice weak monsters? You have Bains, Red Wyverns, and Red Kent's, but Leafre is so out there that you're just going to Dual Ghost Pirate until the heat death of the universe while all the other classes move onto new content.
>>722225665yeah you're right, dex does raise your minimum damage slightly. gonna be a very minimal upgrade to min damage rolls with a few more dex on the shoes. I was thinking too much about before getting a zhelm. fuck everyone who buys a zhelm though. but this is in the case of a 4 dex warrior who has more than enough accuracy already, and i'm thinking of the 130-140 acc or whatever it was to 100% hit the highest level zakum summons as the end game. which is retardedly hard to get to that point if you have 4 dex in real old school
>>722225681yeah it probably was better before you were born but it's not worse because you were born
>>722222222
my account that was banned in 2005 for a chargeback was unbanned this year
>>722226175We'll see if there are any weapon accuracy scrolls from the start and if they're from common farmed monsters. Won't be a surprise when a lot of warriors walk around with a damage and an accuracy stick.
>>722226314WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?!
>>722226330I also wouldn't use weapon accuracy scrolls because still attack is better
>>722226314does /v/ also skip repeats now?>>722222223
>>722226393what i mean is ideally you want enough accuracy from other equips and an attack wg and scrolled weapon for attack. to me an acc glove and acc weapon is just noob.
>>722226397Only 0 can have repeating digits. All other numbers you can't, it's been like this for a long, long, long time to prevent dubs posting spam.
Praying mage ultimates are announced gutted at launch if we start at 3rd job. Really want to live my best big dk life. LF>Cute pocket priests
>want to play sader and relive panic big number dopamine hits and unironically slash blasting forever>realize we will probably get 4th job>which means ill just end up playing brandish spam hero all fucking day againi cant pinpoint why one bored me more than the other, but holy fuck did i hate hero compared to saderlet alone the damage certain other 4th jobs did to the game
>>722226562This is exactly why I'm hesitant on being a Cleric. Despite it being my favorite class because I enjoy the role of a support bot, I detest the Genesis meta that 4th job basically forces onto us.
>>722226562Literally the opposite for me. I love the sound and rhythm Brandish makes. Stancing and cleaving is a cherry on top.
>>722226562I'm just playing whomever I like because playing a boring class early on means I won't even make it to the fun stuff later anyway. If the later stuff bores me I'll just make a new character.
>>722226562sader was awesome when you were the only one that could 1 hit mushmom with Panic. so if a sader showed up to mm everyone else was just fucked.
IMPORTANT QUESTIONIS IT VIABLE TO GO 1H HERO JUST FOR THE 1H BRANDISH1h brandish is sooo much cooler
>>7222266924th job meta 1h axe sader with an att shield was technically the best with godly equips. but that's nu school
>>7222266921 handed was meta once shield attack scrolls were added.
>>722226692I'm going 1H blunt weapon page because it looks COOL who gives a shit what's good or not play what you want
>>722226562Managing orbs was fun. Brandish spam was too brain off. Combo just stayed as a buff rather than a buff plus a resource.
>>722226692Brandish has fixed attack range so one of the weaknesses of 1 handed weapons was circumvented. Obviously 1 handed and 2 handed have different damage formulas.
>>722160483>dog is smart enough to recognize itself in the mirrorWait hold the fuck in isn't that super rare in animals? I didn't think dogs could do it.
>go on airship from ellinia to orbis or orbis to ludibrium will take real life time to get there>alt tab out to shitpost in an ms thread f3'ing>another anon sees my post and is in the same airshipThis will happen. I will say "U ISRAEL?" to everybody
>>722163096jfc you're just like me. Good luck dk friend.
>>7222268722h brandish has a significantly longer ranger than 1h
>>722226760this was the coolest shit ever and only wk could actually use it and it was so rare to see but looked amazing. it looked like they grabbed some stone pillar and used it as a weapon or something. just imagine playing old school maplestory and seeing a high level wk 1 time holding this weapon which looked a lot bigger than picrel.
>>722226821you know what? that's probably it, i hadn't really considered that, especially with how you got 5 more orbs to work with that you just... never really wanted to usefor all the qol you got with 4th (monster magnet, rush, etc) it really took away the identity you had with 3rd job, i guess ideally they'd find a way to make you manage orbs with hero so it doesn't just devolve into that and thus makes brandish feel like more of a natural upgrade rather than "this new attack skill replaces everything you have"
>>722226959>>722163096can't relate to you guys but i'm a dk main and I just wanted power. fuck the bitches.
I will play female priest
>>722227124you got it wrong THOUGHsader was for the power dk was for the bitches
>>722227160hey (;
>>722227167fuk u
>>722227180*presses down and f1*are you going to spam booster on me now
>>722227235>>722227180fuck you die
>>722227213f3
>>722227061For me, it was The Beheader.
>>722227279actually cool but came out after the game was shit...
>>722227167Crusaders got to hang with the rare and elusive female thieves for the haste/rage exchange.
>>722227279https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dH_h1EP4mI&t=70s
i feel like playing modern mapleslop againis reboot or regular server better?
>>722227403heroic, reg is some real paypiggy shit you don't want to deal with. Don't let benny fool you.
>>722227349yeah until they cucked them with nlc potsbut those female thieves weren't really female, it was just way easier to get the female overall to scroll for dex so minmax was making a female thief.
>>722227403Reboot KronosIt's where everybody is
>>722227313UnfortunatelyBefore that would probably be Doombringer, which for some reason was translated to Groonhill in the beta and imo sounded cooler>>722227393>17 years agoTAKE ME BACK
>>722227440NLC was just a mistake overall and I hope it never makes it to Classic.
will anons star in my MMVs...?
>>722227429>>722227449reboob it is then, thanks anosalso is kaiser still dogshit? i haven't played in a long time
>>722227403reg is the economy server except gms is 9x more inflated than kms
>>722227538I had a friend who made several and posted all of them on Youtube. I was in a lot of them since I was a Jr. Master in his guild.He has since deleted his YouTube channel and the videos are lost to time but they still exist in my mind.
>>722227493yeah doombringer was fucking awesome. do you remember any more beta weapon names?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcfQEKHt0Js
>>722227649That's the only one I really remember, because 12 year old me was autistically pissed about it when I finally got one years later.I guess theres the Cutlass being mistranslated to Cutlus but that persisted for much longer than beta iirc
>>722227873Yeah I love to hear the beta names again, there were more but they didn't really stick with me.
>>722227649Jester = PinterDeadly Fin = GetaGrendel the Really Old = HinesAvenger (female thief overall) = FruitsChaos Robe = Devil Robe Forked Dagger = Double DanSai = ChaThe Judgment (level 70 1hbw) = StoomScimitar (level 30 2h sword) = The BeheaderSabertooth = BirdvilleSerpant's Tongue = Red CurveBurnin = AvariceScarab = FuryA lot of these are still in the KMS version.
>>722228116BASED>Burninwas the one I was trying to rememberDevil Robe is badass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-J-1tysUi0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8E09ofZaRs
Time to buy nx and spam the henesys gacha
>>722224617In the OG days the dex route was 2*level until 30 (so 60 at lv30) and one point per level after since mastery helped.You need to understand, without zhelm, face accessory gacha shit or a 30 dex overall, you WILL have to put points into dex as a warrior.>buuu but!! that will lower my damage!Nothing lowers your damage more than doing 0 damage.
>>722223340are you a straight white male
>>722228697Please tell me gachapon isn't going to be in classic on release.
>>722157623Can't wait to go home. Hope it's available to play before next year, I don't wanna wait more than a couple more months. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9l405Bb0bA
>>722229081Gachapon was around for years before big bang. Like it or not, it's classic.Most we can hope for is that it's not there on launch.
>>722229509not classic
>>722157623Does it come with free pets? I am not going to press ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ on every single item.
>>722229937you gotta
>>722157623@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2nGoA-XXT0
I wanna play MapleLegends so bad but that trading market system is so fucking shiteven buying owls takes ages because you can only buy a pack of 6 at once
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3_YZ3WihF0