Why did everyone turn against Mario Galaxy Suddenly?
Uncs crashing out over the score
>was $40 on wii u>is $70 nowyes, you should dock points for nearly doubling the price for the same fucking product. the industry rejecting this is unironically good, fucking tendies man.
>>722159580She's trying to make the same thread after being humiliated in the last one.LMFAOO please keep going
>>722159580Because you are buying 2 roms at 80 bucks.
one of the scores is at an 0.8 out of 10 which is an error since it's 8 out of 10 in the original site, which brought the score downshitpost thread
>>722159602>objectively better
>>722159580Didn't you already make this thread?
>>722159580If this was on steam I'd refund it. Imagine paying $70 for this shit when you can get daioujou rinne tensei or ray'z collection for like $40
>>722159580is nintendo going to stop making copies like allstars 3D or should I buy a copy soon before it's double in price
>>722159602>improved visualswe've seen the fucking textures>4kThis is made to run on Switch 1.
>>722159602This is a fair take. A rerelease of an album or movie wont get lower review numbers just because it costs more then the 0,50 cents the original costs at goodwill.As most of /v/ loves to say, old game good new game bad, but a lot of those same people would give new game more money and old game on 90% off, which is contradictionary.On a side note: I also thinks this release gets this much hate because they fucking know that these 18 year old games are still not surpassed by any modern platformer.
>>722159726DELETE THIS
>>722161571>they fucking know that these 18 year old games are still not surpassed by any modern platformer.Bro galaxy is legit not a good game. At all. Mario is super sluggish and controls like Daxter or some other bargain bin mascot platformer in this, it's fucking weird.
>>722161192>daioujou rinne tensei or ray'z collectionwhat is that some gay visual novel trash?
>>722161571>reddit spacingyou have to go back
>>722161729Play it now nintendie
>>722161828That's not a platformer
>>722161947Yeah its like starfox but actually a good game instead of just being gay furry bait
>>722161192These games are going to offer far more content for your money, are better designed and more fun to play. As "video games" they exist as a better example of the medium than what you're recommending. Not only that, these games will be talked about for decades to come, because they're actually culturally relevant. But you do you.
>>722161828>02-55-41Fix your sleep schedule
>>722161793That's just proper paragraph editing. "redd@t spacing" is when people use 3 line brakes between sentences because that page uses (or at least did 15 or so years ago) HTML to write comments.
>>722159726AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>722161192>daioujou rinne tensei or ray'z collectionBased STG anonRaycrisis is peak
>>722162049I had intended to just play it for 15 minutes and wound up staying up for 3 hours
Wow I haven’t seen tendies this mad that someone isn’t blowing their friends at kintendo since twilight princess.
>>722162157They were pretty mad at DK Bananza scoring lower than Super Mario Odyssey
>Wow I haven’t seen tendies this mad that someone isn’t blowing their friends at kintendo since twilight princess.>They were pretty mad at DK Bananza scoring lower than Super Mario Odyssey
>>722161258HELLOOOOOOOOOOOO?????can someone please answer the QUESTION
>saving shirtless pictures of Eric to deploy at a moment's noticethat's extremely fucking gay holy shit>>722161571They get hate for costing double what they did from Nintendo themselves just a decade ago, you nigger.
>>722162029Shart Fox is only remembered for being a tendie game and furfag bait, whenever someone attributes another rail-shooter to it I wince.Tendies actually have a better rail-shooter series, but it doesn't have any dogs in it so they don't care.
>>722162442Tendies can’t fathom the idea that Nintendo gets all this hate because they’re greedy fucking jews.
>>722161571Very disingenuous argument because this isn't a 50 cent difference, it's nearly double the price of the previous release and we've seen plenty of great platformers since then. This costs more than they did. Astrobot, Kirby and the Forgotten Land and Mario Odyssey were $60 while brand new, charging $70 for 2 Wii games is absurdly greedy when said roms were $40 total on the Wii U.
>>722162643love playing Sin & Punishment on my Switch 2.Star Fox is great too. I'll just enjoy both great games and not shit myself.
This is the actual score without the Nintendo bonus
>>722161685>muh physics!!Shut up you fucking retard. Level design, enemy design, hazard design, enemy design, boss design, gamefeel, controls, artstyle, soundtrack, pacing are all far more important and the Galaxy games do those far better than any of the other 3D Mario games
>nintendo witholding a new 3d mario so people buy their shitty $70 pajeet ports out of starvationGrim
>>722161258no these are standard releases however the only way to get physical galaxy 2 is to buy the $70 bundled cart
>>722161571galaxy was always the worst mario game until odyssey came out and when they remake that one in like 4 years, it will also sell poorly
>>722163192>gameplay isn't important
>>722159953>people are ignoring thisgrim
>>722162643That's not a good game lol
Why the fuck would anyone give two shits about the new reviews of games that came out over a decade ago and have already been reviewed? It's literally the same games with no upgrades, as far as I know, so the only reason scores would change is because Nintendo didn't put a tranny in it for """modern audiences"""" or something. Also, the Galaxy games are overrated waggle garbage.
I THINK SUPER MARIO GALAXY 2 SUCKS
>>722163236Chances are they banked on DK being as successful as Odyssey, when it turned out DK isn't nearly as much as a money maker as Mario they scrambled to churn out these ports.
>>722161258>>722162414Nintendo stopped making copies of All-Stars 3D a while ago. I mean this with full sincerity, you don't need All-Star. 64 and Sunshine are on Switch Online and they're easily to emulate the former I have on my 2DS If you really want the console experience, play the first two Online and get Galaxy 1 + 2 on sale>inb4 lol saleIt'll happen.>>722162643I care. I'd love to see a new S&P
>>722163236be sure to watch the movie at least 5 times in theaters
>>722163493Nah they were gonna do these regardless to make a quick buck off the next movie. But I agree that they overestimated DK and its $20 scam DLC doesn't help
>>722161685>>722163346>muh Mario game is shit unless you accelerate like a van, turn like a boat, ricochet off walls like a bouncy ball, struggle to walk up a slight incline, and fill the stages with literal invisible walls scattered throughout levels>also you better give Mario a dozen different fruity faggot jumps instead of an actual camera that goes where the fuck you want it to or level design beyond an empty playground with a random mishmash of jumps and enemies scattered about>oh and also kick me out of the level each time so I can retread each stage a dozen different times with piecemeal changesGo watch your Summoning Salt or Pannencock video and fuck off you retarded subhuman faggot
>>722163346>the game with the worst camera on earth>and some of the most bland and empty levels >that makes you replay each level 6 times>with some of the most nonsensical and frustrating physics >where you accelerate like a van, turn like a boat, ricochet off walls like a bouncy ball, struggle to walk up a slight incline, and with literal invisible walls scattered throughout levels>with a dozen different jump variants when all you want is a fucking camera that is actually looking where you're going instead of shoved up Mario's asshole >is somehow the standard to which all Mario games should be heldMario 64fags are not fucking human.
>>722163440to understand the current shitposting meta, the important info is that fanboys were hyping up the #1 and #2 reviewed games this year being botw and totk(despite a very small number of reviews)https://www.metacritic.com/browse/game/all/all/current-year/so it's 1) shitposters riling up nintendo fanboys because their holy grail mario games didn't score as high 2) fanboys legitimately being upset because their holy grail mario games didn't score as high(see >>722159602 )this is the fanbase that had a catastrophic meltdown over a zelda game getting an 8.8 with full on death threats to the reviewer. they take reviews way too seriously.
>>722162643The whole point of the lock-on reticle in the ray games is that it adds an extra layer of really slick movement that simply doesn't exist in rail shooters. It's actually genius.
>>722163493More like just rushed out earlier, they probably had these planned for a while due to the movie but wanted to release them closer to it. I do think Bananza fizzled out and they're scrambling a bit though.>>722163717>>oh and also kick me out of the level each time so I can retread each stage a dozen different times with piecemeal changesSUPER MARIO GALAXY LITERALLY KICKS YOU OUT TOO OH MY FUCKING GOD YOU HAVEN'T ACTUALLY PLAYED THESE GAMES>>722163807>nonsensical and frustrating physics Ohhhhhh, you're just bad at real video games, got it. This also explains why you people are getting assmad at Odyssey.
>>722163884What the fuck does Sin & Punishment have to do with Rayforce you subhuman retard?
>>722163313how do you know they are "standard" releases?? can someone confirm?
>>722161571>A rerelease of an album or movie wont get lower review numbers just because it costs more then the 0,50 cents the original costs at goodwill.
>>722161258>is nintendo going to stop making copies like allstars 3D or should I buy a copy soon before it's double in priceIt ties into next years Super Mario Galaxy movie so there's no way this would be limited edition.
>>722164190they're either going to ignore this, or bluster their asses off about how this "doesn't count" somehow
>>722163907Absolute retard making false equivalence.Most levels in Mario Galaxy have one star and the alternate stars (of which there are not fucking 7 per tiny level like in SM64) are for playing the level in an entirely different way. Also Mario Galaxy stages are more of linear gauntlets (like the 2D games), so it wouldn't make sense to keep you in the stage and make you backtrack. >you're bad at videogames if you don't defend unrealistic, inconsistent, nonsensical physics where Mario controls more like a cargo ship than a human>you're bad at videogames if you don't defend a dogshit camera that fight you at every turn when all movement is relative to this camera>you're bad at videogames if you don't defend getting kicked out and being forced to retread a stage a half dozen times with the tiniest of piecemeal changes >you're bad at videogames if you don't defend levels that are empty playgrounds with a few disjointed enemies and jumps scattered about because you can't really design game around a moveset when you have a dozen different jump options and a terrible camera that makes precise movement near impossible Mario 64 as a tech demo is a neat proof of concept. Mario 64 as a game is dogshit. The gameplay is dogshit. The level design is dogshit. The boss design is dogshit. The camera is dogshit. The artstyle is dogshit. The soundtrack is decent. The pacing is dogshit. The physics are dogshit.
>>722163993Raystorm was the beginning of the original reply chain, and unlike starfox and Sin and Punishment, there is actually stuff on the screen to interact with instead of being a glorified shooting gallery. Every time someone is discussing shmups some nitwit has to go>oh my God I love rail shootersBut this genre is inherently flawed and casual. The ray series is simply far superior and uses the lock on mechanic in a much more sophisticated and FUN way, and the only people deepthroating rail shooters have not played it.
>>722164441>(of which there are not fucking 7 per tiny level like in SM64)Oh boy. Someone didn't play Super Mario Galaxy 2.
>>722164519Sin & Punishment is the natural extension of the shitty, shallow shmup genre.You can both move and aim at the same time and also have a wide variety of movement and attack options that all have a specific niche and purpose. It's high skill ceiling, extremely fun to play, and very satisfying to master. You haven't even cleared any of the Ray games, shitter. You struggle even getting baby's first 1all shitclear with no scoring. Stop talking about things you have no concept of.
>>722159602Remasters/remakes are usually worse but this is way better than past releases. They weren't even HD originally and only Nintendo are still making GOAT 3D platformers so there's no competition in the first place. Still gonna wait for a sale though, gonna get 007/RE9/MP4 etc day one
>>722164441If you genuinely think this then you are fucking retarded. Never post your brain-dead opinion on games ever again you ape.
this game doesn't feel nearly as magical on switch without the wiimote SFX and having joycon drift
>>722164707>You can both move and aim at the same time and also have a wide variety of movement and attack optionsYou also move and aim in the ray games, and are not locked to the bottom of the screen. The biggest sign of a good shmup is when you spend more time in the middle of the screen than the bottom. This is also actually why starfox is also a WAY better game than S&P. >You haven't even cleared any of the Ray games, shitterI 1cc'd rayforce 20 years ago. Now I'm playing raystorm.
>>722163510Sunshine isn’t out yet I thought
>>722164851>brown, ugly, retarded turd world muttgolem calling me retardedgo watch your summoning salt speedtrooning video you fucking subhuman
>>722164979you already used that one
>>722164780i hope you're not going to grab something like re9 on the switch 2 if you care about playing the best version of games. if you're fine with playing worse versions of new games (switch 2 ports) then the enhancements for the galaxy games shouldn't matter.
>>722164780>And only Nintendo are still making GOAT 3D platformersYep, that's why they need to dig up nearly 20 year old games to fill out their library!
What was even the point of changing the textures? Literally just extra work for worse results. All they had to do was just upscale the game and improve the controls...
>>722164965>You also move and aim in the ray gamesaiming *is* movement in Ray games you colossal fucking retard, they are intrinsically linked because aiming is set a fixed distance in front of your ship, retard.>and are not locked to the bottom of the screen.you can (and should) jump around in Sin & Punishment, retard.>This is also actually why starfox is also a WAY better game than S&P. Star Fox 64 has limited movement that rubberbands your ship back to the center of the screen. Sin & Punishment has the same thing except it rubberbands your character to the bottom of the screen. Sin & Punishment again has independent movement and shooting unlike Star Fox 64. Both are great games and both are high skill ceiling, Sin & Punishment moreso but it's negligible. >I 1cc'd rayforce 20 years ago. No the fuck you didn't. You struggle with basic shitclears easier than Rayforce now, and you seriously expect me to believe you 1cc'ed it 20 years ago when you were a shitstain kid and didn't even play the genre? Make your lies even the tiniest bit believable you fucking clown. So let's summarize:>You haven't beat Star Fox 64 expert route or medaled any stages>You haven't 1cc'ed Sin & Punishment.>You haven't 1cc'ed Rayforce.>You haven't 1cc'ed any other Ray game.You are a retarded tranny shitter who was barely able to eke out a 1all baby's first shitclear with garbage scoring and now you larp as some expert lmao. Fuck off subhuman
>>722159580I still don't know whether to buy this. Seriously, fuck Nintendo. I've been kinda falling for le portability meme but I have the games at home with a Wii U. I'm just too lazy to set it all up again
>>722163717Anon, literally all of these except acceleration and camera apply to Galaxy.
>>722164968You're right. My bad. But it has been confirmed to coming to GC Online. pic related are the games on there now.https://youtu.be/0MvkSVs8f_w?si=e6owtWgoQORP0MOR&t=100>>722165292To charge $70, $40 separately.
>>722165401I think you need to take a deep breath and have a nice hot cup of tea with honey, as you seem to be having a meltdown and gravitating into histrionic delusions. No railshooter has good movement, especially not S&P.
>>722165547I assume you have a good pc with dolphin so just don't. You cold probably even emulate them on your phone or some shit if you need the portability. I was just playing Galaxy 1 pirated on my switch and didn't feel it was any better than just playing on the og hardware or emulation. Kind of boring actually I forgot how much dialogue and tutorial bs there is
>>722165607You are a shitter retard posing as an expert, maybe you can fool someone who is inexperienced, but you stick out like a sore thumb to me. Lying about that Rayforce clear was incredibly low effort and not something to be taken lightly. What little credibility you had is now gone.Maybe in 10 years you will have a clear worth a damn and can say something of note.
>>722165564Level design, camera, movement, artstyle, pacing, boss design are all far better in Mario Galaxy. Just level design alone is enough to put Galaxy head and shoulders over 64. It's really not a gotcha when you say>w-w-well Mario Galaxy kicks you out of levels too!!! when I already explained how the context and implementation of these are completely different and not really comparable at all.
>>722166129>no you see it's different and good when MY game does it
>>722166262>I'm going to be a disingenuous illiterate retard!!
>>722166378You're the one who forgot that Galaxy games boot you out after every Star and started scrambling to make excuses for why it's now good but only for your game.
>>722164151they would've fucking said if they were limited time releases like they did with 3d all stars you fucking tard do your own research
I was unaware that the Galaxies had been surpassed. Tell me, what 3D platformer is better than these games?
>>722166624retard
>>7221669413D World.
>>722167132Don't make me laugh. Not even when including Bowser's Fury.
>>722163319>galaxy was always the worst mario game until odyssey came outThat would be Sunshine>b-but the movement is better!Maybe so, but the level design was also much, much worse. One is more important.
>>722166941Crash 1, Crash 2, Banjo Kazooie and Astro Bot
All re-releases, particularly overpriced ones, deserve lowered scores if not to be ignored entirely by virtue of being money laundering schemes.These faggots aren't out to show their games to a new generation or record history, they're here to exploit it.Yes, this applies to Miyamoto and Iwata, the two greatest scam artists Nintendo has ever known, and two of the most talentless people in the medium's history. Quite literally in the case of the latter.
>>722159580Because it's $70 for a "remastered" Wii game that looks worse than the original running at an HD resolution. Just give us the originals for $20 or something.
>>722167518I think it was fine in the past when Nintendo was doing handheld ports of old console games because those were inherently cheaper due to being handheld games. But when it's full priced on the Switch that's when things get unacceptable.
>>722164334>or bluster their asses off about how this "doesn't count" somehowSort of? The closest comparison to a "best of" album in game form would be Katamari Forever, which takes levels from all the prior games in the franchise and bundles them together in a single package. If Forever picked levels from each of the prior games that didn't lead to the same sense of progression, or the selection lacked some notable levels, then it scoring worse would make sense. This Galaxy 1+2 pack is a different story. It's more like selling you two Radiohead albums, say OK Computer and Kid A, in a single package.
New Switch release? Time to cynically throw everything that came before it in the series/by the same team under the fucking bus to gas the new release up. It actually fucking stunned me to see Nintendofags starting to do this with Odyssey the instant DK Bananza came out. Not even the Switch 1 is safe anymore.
>>722168126Too bad fetus game seemingly flopped. Wait that’s actually a good thing.
>>722165965Sounds like you may have a bit of mental illness
>>722168126>Time to cynically throw everything that came before it in the series/by the same team under the fucking bus to gas the new release upSadly I see this happening with fucking everything, nowadays. My gut says it's got a lot to do with vidya becoming less of an exclusively "nerdy" pastime, where "nerd" communities expected people to have some knowledge and respect for the history of a series or else get shamed.
>>722168276Bananza seemingly dropping like a brick makes me laugh. Not because of the game's quality itself or a desire to see the game itself fail, but because of how stupidly big Nintendo has bet on it as a soft reboot of the IP and refresh of DK's design, while doing an abhorrent job of keeping the IP relevant during the Switch era. Bananza was the impetus for DK's redesign for the movie and MKW (as well as the upcoming DK movie presumably) but it fell flat on its fucking (goofy cartoon) face. it's a real good thing they leaned into Raretendo-era DK and DKCR for the Universal park huh
>>722159580I think all remasters should cap at 85.I’m still pissed that Persona 5 Royal sits at an obscene 95 Metacritic score. We can’t keep rewarding game devs with once-in-a-life time critical scores for merely remastering their previous games. That’s how we get shit like Metaphor Refantazio.
>>722168126it's insane because basically every other community is >new thing bad, old thing goodbut the nintendo community is>old thing bad, new thing besti'm in awe at what consumer whores they are.
>>722165117They just released DKB 2 months ago schizo.
>>722169368>rated almost a full letter grade less than OdysseyThat's not GOAT material.
TRUTH NUKE:Mario Galaxy are such renowned masterpieces that an underwhelming score says more about the reviewer than the quality of the games.
>Switchfags screaming that "the reviewers are wrong!!!" after just spending an entire nearly-decade long generation rubbing review scores and headlines/soundbites in people's faces
>>722165965>Lying about that Rayforce clear was incredibly low effort and not something to be taken lightly.Rayforce is really not that bad of a 1cc, its level of challenge is a bit of a meme. Raystorm is a fair bit harder.
Reminder Tendies are literally paying for modded roms. Again.
>>722169697We're talking about someone that took months to do a shitclear of mushi and then tried to brag about it dozens of times like he just cleared Ketsui Ura or something
>>722170243I'm not really seeing that, this all seems to be in your head. Nowhere did they imply they were some kind of super player, that's unreasonable to expect of anyone. Sin and Punishment really is a kinda crappy game, much easier than even the easiest of shmups, and I'm pretty sure the dude that spams it all the time is kind of a moron. Railshooters are mostly just spectacle, a lot like character action games.
>>722161571>because it costs more then the 0,50 cents the original costs at goodwill>at goodwillIt wasNintendothat decided Super Mario Galaxy was $20, when they re-sold it as a Nintendo SelectIt wasNintendothat decided Super Mario Galaxy was $20, when they re-sold it on the Wii U eShopIt wasNintendothat decided Super Mario Galaxy was $20, when they re-sold it as 1/3rd of the $60 3D All-Stars Collection just a few years agoNow Nintendo is deciding that Super Mario Galaxy is $35 as part of this collection, $40 standalone. For a port they already did, with extremely minor additions made to it. For a game that sold as low as $10 with versions like the one on the Nvidia Shield. No, that is too much to ask for Super Mario Galaxy. Fuck you.
>>722170618xe's a prolific tranny that shits up numerous threads a day, all with the same posting style. Be lucky you have not encountered this faggot before, assuming you aren't xim samefagging.>Sin and Punishment really is a kinda crappy gameoh fuck off retard>much easier than even the easiest of shmupsNo the fuck it isn't, especially not on hard, and especially not with scoreplay. Stop this poser bullshit. Are you just him samefagging? >Railshooters are mostly just spectacle, a lot like character action games.Annnnd you made the bait too obvious. Not bothering with you anymore unless you post clears. Not entertaining shitters with no clears larping as experts
>>722170819You're making it a bit too obvious what you are. I've seen you throw these weird tantrums in multiple threads. I think you're just angry they're actually playing the games.
>>722170930railshooters are clearly shmup adjacent, part of the same arcade design philosophy, and have a strong focus on score, replays, and mastery.What is this bullshit of trying to create a rift where there is none? Post clears or kick rocks shitter.
>>722170668yeah but le heckin tariffs made these pre-existing ROMS more expensive!!!
>>722170974The impetus to post clears is on you. I see you engage in this behavior in both gradius threads, which you repeatedly make while just posting a picture of box art then screaming about ecelebs, and also mister threads, which are some of the worst threads I have ever seen on 4chan. It's a pretty juvenile approach which doesn't really convince anyone.
>stealth Sin and Punishment threadbased
>>722171143>n-n-n-no u!!!If you know, you know. If you don't know, you need to fuck off.
>>722171272I can just type "shitclear" into the archive and see how much of a retarded poseur and shitposter you are. Anyone that can provide footage of themselves playing games and having fun is okay in my book. There won't ever be any webms of sin and punishment, because it's not fun and it's not interesting, and you'll just sit here all day attacking people who actually play video games.
Reminder that both Star Fox 64 and Sin & Punishment are both /v/-core classics that are praised by the King of /v/ and the King of Arcade himself, The Electric Underground aka MarkMSX aka morkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0LWb5npqgghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-6rD3ELUukAnyone trying to shit on these games or create a rift between them is a newfag and/or troll and should be told in no uncertain terms to eat shit and fuck off.
>>722171506>he thinks I invented the term of shitclearlmao, sure thing bud, I am thousands of posters in one.
>>722171616>the King of Arcade himself, The Electric Underground aka MarkMSX aka morkYep there's that mentally ill shitposting and e-celeb worship I was expecting.
