Gamepass price increase>thirty (30) united states dollars per month
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2025/10/01/xbox-game-pass-ultimate-premium-essential-plans/
Pajeetsoft deserves to die.
>>722162192>Xbox hardware sales are so bad entire storechains are removing the systems from shelves>Xbox software sales are in the absolute shitter because of Gamepass being a better deal>Decide to fuck up the only thing still making Xbox moneyThis has to be Phil's personal jihad on the Xbox division, theres no other logical reason, he wants one last fuck you to Microsoft management before they close the division down a year from now
>loads up 3x 12 months xbl gold >buys 1 month of gamepass ultimate hehehe suck on that one phil with aids
XBOX 360 LMAO
pretty much a non-issue due to the massive benefits of tariffs now rolling in, every American household is better off now than they were this time last year with the cost of groceries, gas and other necessities being way, way down and wages way, way up. no one is going to have a problem with these new prices thanks to more money in their pocket due to the perfect tariffs, might as well delete this thread OP
Xbox $360.
>>722162848>>722162714?? 360?
>>722162192I hope the FTC sues them into oblivion and makes them sell activision.And the only xbox thing I have is a controller for my pc.
>>72216301830 dollars a month * 12 months
>>722162506They've got no other choice>Xbox hardware is in the shitter, billions in the red as sales are so low that many stores worldwide are refusing to even list Xbox Series X for sale>Xbox Studios games each selling a few thousand units on Xbox at best, a few million per game on Steam and PS5 combined>meanwhile Activision is making a billion dollars in pure profit every quarterXbox just looks like a waste of money in every way compared to Activision. Cutting studios is no longer enough to justify keeping the Xbox division, the only way through is to massively increase profits somehow and this was the only thing they could think of.
>thirdy Flumpft bucks a monthwow, so its absolutely nothing, thats like what, a couple days wages? nothing burger
yummy enshitification. surely this won't impact gamepass subscription numbers at all
loool must suck to be one of the retards subscribed to this shit
>>722162192for me it is $0 because I pirate everything
>(((Jeetsoft)))>(((Goy Pass)))
>North American console is floundering economically and shitting itself on the global stageyup, sounds like pottery to me
What does this mean for the PC version of the game pass subscription?
B-BUT YOU GET FORTNITE CREW
>>722163630https://www.theverge.com/news/789424/xbox-game-pass-premium-essentials-ultimate-price-increase-changes>Microsoft is also increasing the price of its PC Game Pass subscription today, moving from $11.99 a month to $16.49 monthly — a nearly 40 percent increase. Microsoft isn’t trying to justify this increase with any added extras for PC players, though.$5 more with nothing extra.
>>722162192But I was told that Game Pass is profitable...
>Ubisoft + classics is that a seperate thing from just ubisoft+ or is it the full subscription as well as some the backcompat games?
jeeeeeeesus christ30 bucks and lower tiers get 0 day 1 releasesahahaaah
I wonder how those Xbox shills like Xcension, Colt Eastwood, etc gonna spin this
>>722163815The price is likely going up because console sales have flat lined.
>>722163725yep it's dead
>>722163928Jez Corden's meltdowns are always the best
>>722163887Classics is older Ubi games without any DLC.
>>722162192E33 nepobaby dodged a crazy bullet there
PIrating wins again srsly
>>722163725I didn't even know PC had gamepass
its because Microsoft is all in on AI isn’t it? they’re squeezing every single bit of revenue just to pump it into AI aren’t they
Truly an auspicious day for the monkeys who still subscribe to own nothing and then brag about having owned nothing for years. The Xbox and the special eds PC "fanboys".>>722163630Found one of those retards. Eat a dick PC fanboy. Keep renewing the digital own nothing DRM rent like the good little cattle you are, cockroach of gaming. "Mustard race" who brags about either a 2000 dollar computer or a 300 barebones computer with 4GB VRAM just to rent games like a dipshit, what a PCMR Redditor.
>>722162192>*Call of duty not included So you have to pay $30 per month to rent the new CoD... might as well just buy the game and own it.
>>722163928its already overwe lost klobrille, we cant afford to lose Colt as well
>xbox pass users get absolutely buttraped>pc pass users get all the features for half pricePC master race wins again
>>722163928Timdog status?
Both of these headlines are from today. Microsoft has the worst PR in the world. Why would they have Sarah Bond brag about Game Pass being profitable the same day that they increase GPU's price by $10.
>>722162192Also day 1 releases locked behind the 30 dollar tier
>>722164208Yes
>>722163163Heh.
that's actually a damn good deal when they're also adding ubisoft classics and fortnite crew, at least for me. my nephew is addicted to fortnite so the crew shit works in my favour. and ubisoft classics is one of the reasons i subscribed to ps+ in the first place so now that it's coming to ultimate i don't need ps+ for those ubi games. i'm sure some indian will find an exploit to get ultimate for cheap anyway, which is always how i've bought it (did the 3 years of ea play to 1 year gamepass conversion which cost £70 for one year).fucking awesome
>>722162192Who the fuck still uses goypass? I stopped years ago after they stopped doing the $1 for a month of ultimate deal all the time.
you vill pay more to own nothing and you vill be happy, goyim
At least the ads bit wasn't real.
>>722164496Pls redeem the gamepass saar
>>722164534Ads will come in 2026
>>722162192Eh fuck it I barely used it I'll just buy sea of thieves and unsub.If I buy it on steam can I transfer my data over? I could buy on the Microsoft store thing for the game pass discount thiugh
>>722164534yet
>>722162192It's a good deal if you're playing a lot of EA, Ubi and Fortnite in addition to MS. But i think that's just overkill. To really make use of that offer you'd have to be playing a new game every day and also play Fortnite.
>>722163195>>meanwhile Activision is making a billion dollars in pure profit every quarterThis isn't true, but even if it were MSFT would still need almost 20 years of this performance to cover the nominal cost of the buyout. What's Activision got on deck to keep this up?
does the premium tier come with a monthly supply of bugs to munch? I can’t afford to eat anymore
>there are mentally ill PC fanboys debating the merits of owning nothing just to pay a Microdick rent feewow. just wow. That thirsty to get your astroturfer shill work quota on 4chan, what's the payout? 3 months subscription cards to own nothing? Come on guys you can all do better in this thread. Post all those photoshopped Phil Spencer "BADASS" images, suspiciously made against only Sony, to celebrate this. Let's go get hyped pay more to own nothing, yeahhh New Dehli and Brazilians get hyped for the toll! GamePass on your barely functioning PC with 6GB VRAM and an Intel overheating oxidized CPU, fuck yeah! PCMR PCMR
>>722164591i do and will continue to. it's a great deal especially if you have multiple devices like a pc and xbox in different rooms so you can use the cloud saves between them and also just having a fuck ton of games at your disposal
>>722162192Guess it wasn't that profitable after all
>$30 a month>silksong was $20>clair obscur was $50Might as well buy your games. They were even cheaper if you use keysites.
>>722164069I did but I didn't know it was cheaper than console.
>announce this during a major steam saleLMAOOOOOOOOO WHAT ARE WE DOIBG JEETSOFT
>>722164745literally summoned the beast >>722164726 yes, make sure to say "best value" and "also on PC". fucking xbox fags are just third world blockbuster in their final days.
>>722164391>featuresI wouldn't call shit games "features"
Been a Gamepass subscriber since 2017, I'm out now. $360 for a year of this ripoff service is about equal to five full priced games nowadays, and I'm struggling to find five games I'm interested in playing on Gamepass nowadays.
>>722164757Yep thats the kickerMight as well just fucking buy then at that point
>>722164745but cloud saves are free on xbox without any subs
>>722164757you can do both e.g. do an exploit to get gamepass ultimate for cheap and play the gamepass games, on gamepass. and then use the savings on buying games which aren't on gamepass. i do it regularly.
>>722164770Didn't xbox live morph into the xbox gamepass so they could milk those piggies already paying monthly to use the internet more than PC players
Does anyone have the price increases for other regions or is this just the US?
>>722162757man america sounds awesome dude, I think I'm gonna move their legally from my home country mexico
>>722164401Back on PlayStation's dick.
>>722164893The price didn't increase that much over Xbox Live Gold, that move was just to cook the books and pretend GamePass was a huge success and a giant new revenue stream when in fact it was just them rebranding Live subs.
>>722164896Worldwide. It's about 26 Euros now for one of the tiers. I assume the third world South Americans/Brazilians and Indians are gonna be hit the hardest too. :( How tragic with their e-waste 8GB VRAM GPUs play pretend PC master race or their worthless Series S console, all digital renting third worldies GamePass SIRS race.
>>722164510Maybe people who got 90% discounts by pretending to be Turkish
>>722164868yeah but the idea of cloud saves is moot if you have no games to take advantage of it. the ecosystem is pretty neat because you pay for one sub which works across both platforms and allows you to carry progress from one to another.
>>722164859I've got 8 months left of my xbox gold'd one and there's been two price increases during that timeI barely play vidya anymore, even pirated, so I don't think I'll even do the hack at this rate.
>There are still people coming forward to admit they paid to own nothing for potentially yearsWow. The """"best deal""""" in gaming.
>>722163018Ehehe you spin 360 degeneresse and moonwalk away!
>>722165116What is the difference between gamepass and going to a rental store to rent a game for the weekend back in the day?
>>722165221you get a code to download 100gigs today
360 a year is insane lmaoI dont think I spend that much on vidya every year
>>722164859This. It's the snake eating its tail. Gamepass incentivizes devs to make quick, weekend type games because the fee structure won't support big AAA games. Once you burn through a few of those, you get the feeling that Gamepass isn't the great deal as advertised. It was Avowed for me, not bad, just not anything that I would actually want to finish let alone replay. The next shoe to drop is when Xbox gives up all pretense of curation, and just lets any and all crap-tier games on the store like Steam. "Any content is good content" is the death of any experience worth having.
>>722165247And back then you had to go drive to a store and back
>>722162192>$1000 handheld PC>Microsoft Rewards nerfed (you can't buy Gamepass for free anymore)>Gamepass Day 1 Games for 30 dollaridoos per monthNot a good run for Team Green at all! Meanwhile, SonyGODS are too busy playing MASTERPIECES like Ghost of Yotei in our PS5 Pros
>>722165376>order games online>order groceries online>order clothes and food online>work from homelife is GOOD
Wait so the standard/premium plan is playable on PC now?
>>722165276I spend that much every month but I'm a physicalchad with too much money
PC Gamepass is still an OK deal, but only just.
>>722165439yes
>>722165247>>722165221The difference is Blockbuster was in the 1990s/early 2000s and we live in 2025. You have 30 years worth of game catalog that you can legally purchase physical or even digital and still get better value than ShitPassDRM SIRS PASS because you at least can play whenever you want without a gun behind your head to yank your games on rental. Let's dig deeper since you compared it to Blockbuster. If you wanted to play Mario 3, do you pay 90 dollars or 3 dollars or whateaver it is today? Tell me friend, do you really need to play EVERY FUCKING LATEST GAME ON DAY ONE RIGHT AWAY?I'm probably the oldest anon in this thread and I got a fucking backlog for years, no way am I shitting down my money to rent Microdick XboxPassDRM latest slop. Must be your zoomers brain dopamine receptors going off like Toy Story aliens when they see the latest "thing" and need to play "latest thing" to post about it on social media. The value of owning your games is better than renting them and you got 30 fucking years of games out there in the market you can buy for cheap and forever to own. Get off the DRM renting clown horse, Gen Z.
>>722165530>oldest anonMy guy 80% of 4chan is end of 20s mid 30s
>>722165491pc gamepass is gone
>>722165609piracy aint
>>722165609No it will still exist, but is getting a price bump as well.
>>722165609It isn't. They just make no mention of it in this article. You get Day 1 games, some extra Ubisoft games, no Fortnite Crew and a price increase.
>>722165530What the fuck does this ramble have to do with anything? The existence of 30 years of game catalog has no bearing on the practical difference between a rental store and a service like GamePass. In both situations you are forking over money for a game you don't own.
>>722165519It's not fully working then. Diablo IV supposedly got added today but this just takes me to the Ultimate/PC page. Same with Age of Empires 1 and a few other games. Some games already let me install, though.
Gamepass is basically a monopoly on gaming. Consider this, by this time next year COD BO7 and BF6 will both be on Gamepass because of the EA Play part of it and the Activision part, and then also EA FC 26 will also be on Gamepass, but now there will be Ubisoft, Epic and Riot Games content on it for all the biggest games like LoL and Fortnite etc. It really is the one size fits all service.
>>722165530>do you really need to play EVERY FUCKING LATEST GAME ON DAY ONEThat was the sole reason some people subbedI got a month so I could play the Oblivion remasterPlenty of people would have done that for a day one game and then stayed on the service long termIt's less likely now, because people will just buy the game outright instead of paying almost as much to rent it for a month.
>>722165608Average PC vegan on 4chan is 60 years old.
>>722165824A monopoly that is stagnating and barely sustainable kek
>>722165824If they had kept the prices low for another 5 years, maybe. Microsoft as usually is fucking everything up though by jacking up the prices before establishing a stranglehold on the market.
>>722164875I don't think I can do that in my country
And they wanted to increase subscriber numbers? what the fuck
I don't get it, will I pay more than currently 12 euros/month for PC game pass?Fucking obfuscated shit articles that don't provide easy to read info
>>722165824Gamepass has barely grown broThis aint netflix
>>722166025Yes.
>>722165942Prices haven't increased without the benefits increasing though. For example that Fortnite Crew thing nets you $100 in V-Bucks if you complete the battlepass that's included with it as well as free skins and currency aside from that. It's going to be an attractive deal for many people even at the higher prices because these people already throw money at games like Fortnite anyway.
>>722166013They realized they couldn't, so it was better to raise prices.
>>722164697Unfortunately bugsnax was taken off gamepass 2 years ago.
>>722166119Nobody cares about Fortnite anymore
BEST DEAL IN GAMING SAAR
>>722166013XGP is already the most subscribed service in gaming anyway. they probably hit some internal target and this is the next phase of the plan because they have enough people locked in.
By the way the Xbox brand today has>Sold 23-29 million consoles>Has 34 million GamePass rent suckersAnd Phil Spencer said they would have be at 100 million subs by 2027-2028 I believe at their Activision trial otherwise Xbox would quit gaming consoles. Well they already quit gaming consoles with a soft exist, I want to know what has been going exactly to plan since GamePass came out in the mid 2010s. Did it force Sony and Nintendo to alter their ways? lol, no. Did it help Xbox sell more consoles? LMFAO, no, retailers dropped Xbox actually. So did it boost GamePass by tricking PC fanboys to ditch ownership/piracy? No, GamePass Pass per Microsoft's own paperwork is like 10%.GamePass business model works on 2 fronts, the console gamers who need to access online (Xbox Live was merged into it) and the people who want to mooch off renting DRM. But it is a model heavily sustained by consoles and the console business for Xbox is non-existant. I keep repeating it because they have a literal 800 dollar console out there that's being outsold by the Switch 1 (9 year old console) that's also in the market with Switch 2, lol. The whole Xbox situation is a divine comedy at your expense, but Xbox "diehards" don't have self reflection.
>>722166221They wanted tens of millions more of subs by this pointThey didnt hit shit
>>722165805Here's the new PC plan as they neglected to mention it.
I bought a years' worth of non stackable ultimate subs last month for 10 each, last time ill ever do that then.
>bought an Xbox One X recently for $200>signed into it and played around a bit to test it before swapping in a new SSD>suddenly have a bunch of Game Pass games available to me despite never signing up>the original guy had the Xbox set up as his “home Xbox”>so now they think I’m his family member and let me leech off his game pass for free>MFW
>>722166221Subscription services in gaming have not just stalled post-COVID, but they're regressing. EA Plus, Ubisoft Plus, whatever the fuck NVIDIA is doing, and Xbox Pass are all dying and they're jacking up prices. It's standard business if you can't grow, just bleed your diehards lol. I will never buy an Xbox or use their SIRS DRM RENEW THE PASS.
>>722166295We don't know how many subs it has, but if you think1. MS will increase prices if subs are falling and 2. 3rd parties (Ubi, Epic) will sign on to a service which is failing like you claimYour math ain't mathing. This all suggests MS and partners are so confident in the service, they're literally making unprecedented moves by aligning themselves with it. CoD alone would've massively boosted subs.
>>722166301Premium is cheaper. Don't really care for new releases and that's now the only difference between Premium and PC. But yeah, their shit is probably bugged since plenty of games have the install buttons and others don't.
>>722162192>unparalleled accessHow is limited time access they'll remove games from the selection whenever they want to base games no dlc only as long as you keep paying unparalleled?
>>722166479It had 34M subs and has barely fucking grown you idiot. The xbox consolebase has veen completely saturated while PC has slowed to a complete crawl.>3rd parties (Ubi, Epic) will sign on to a service which is failing like you claim>Your math ain't mathing. This all suggests MS and partners are so confident in the serviceTHEY SPENT BILLIONS ON ACTIBLIZZWHAT MAKES YOU THINK THEY WONT THROW MONEY AT THESE OTHER COMPANIES TOO
GamePass only works by having consoles out there. The more people in the ecosystem, the more you can share the burden. Take the Nintendo Online membership program, if you buy into a family plan it's cheaper for you the split the bill. Apply that logic with GamePass and they would've been subsidized by all the new console owners who buy into any of the tiers. But unfortunately (or fortunately), because Xbox consoles are a dead brand they can't hit the equilibrium for growth+sustainability. It's all hilarious by the way.You have a 600-800 Series X console getting mogged by the nearly decade old Switch 1 and you have retailers worldwide just flatout refusing to put Xbox on their shelves. Which just leaves GamePass only viability for growth the PC market, which itself is defined by Valve fanatic fanboys or piracy. A pirate would be a never ever. A Steam Valve Vegan would wait it out like Kingdom Hearts on GOG took 3 years to land on Steam. Micropenis can't catch a break and the guy on top, Phil Spencer, never gets held accountable.
>>722166695>has barely fucking grown>consolebase has veen completely saturated while PC has slowed to a complete crawl.provide sources for your claims. i want gamepass numbers as of the 1st oct 2025, numbers released within the last week. comparative numbers from this time last year. percentage growth and any additional proof that that these companies are willingly aligning themselves with a dying service. i'lkl wait.
>>722166910Yes sirs GamePass membership went up 500% when Call of Duty hit the service. Sirs please do the GamePass renewal thank you sirs.
>>722167010you made the claim so the burden of proof is on you. still waiting.
>>722166910The last numbers we got were 35 million in May of this year during an investor call. The growth has slowed to a crawl.
RIP gamepassIt was the best deal and absolutely worth it. Not anymore. 4 price increases in one year? Totally insane. They still have me over a barrel cus you HAVE to have Core aka Xbox Live. But I'm absolutely cancelling my Ultimate sub now.Fucking RETARDS.
>>722167152no you're quoting some linkedin post which was written in 2024
Gonna have to tell my boomer dad he cant leech off me for free madden anymore lol
If Xbox GamePass was such a success why isn't Microsoft shouting about their subscription numbers?
>was only playing ghostwire tokyo and evil within on gamepass after subbing last month>realize thanks to this announcement i can cancel for the full month back + not pay next month>costs less than those two games on steam salethanks microsoft!
>>722167241>They still have me over a barrel cus you HAVE to have CoreDo you?My Series S is just rotting in the corner now because I don't want game passThey pushed too far
>>722167348using this logic you'd assume office365 isn't a success because they don't announce subscriber numbers for that either.
>>722166910>35M as of mid 2025https://gamerant.com/xbox-game-pass-subscriber-count-2025-growth-history-estimate/>34M as of feb 2024https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/15/23570040/microsoft-xbox-game-pass-subscriber-numbers-34-million>22M as of Jun 2024https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/18/22406059/xbox-game-pass-subscribers-25-million-microsoft-activisionAlso a reminder that on september 2023 XBL Gold became Game Pass Corehttps://www.wired.com/story/game-pass-core-xbox-live-gold-differences/
>>722167409Yes. The subscription which is required for online multiplayer (lol consoles) used to be Xbox Live Gold but they ended that and changed it to Gamepass 'Core'. It's $10 like Nintendo Online/Xbox Live/PSN.
>>722167558>>35M as of mid 2025>Xbox Game Pass has reportedly surpassed 35 million subscribers. However, the exact timing of this milestone is unconfirmed.literally the first fucking line. how retarded are you?
>>722167463>Microsoft May Exit Gaming Business If Game Pass Subscribers off Console Don’t Increase Enough by 2027>https://wccftech.com/microsoft-may-exit-gaming-business-if-game-pass-subscribers-off-console-dont-increase-enough-by-2027/Can't wait to see you and your SIRS astroturfers gone. Pathetic sacks of shit. I will never buy an Xbox or pay your renting hellscape toll. How does Costco in America and EBGAmes in Australia and Middle East/Europe not selling Xbox consoles help you reach 100 million subs next year?
>>722162506>This has to be Phil's personal jihad on the Xbox divisionSCEA: "Fantastic work, Agent Spencer. Come on home!"
if iphone is such a success why isn't apple shouting about their sales numbers?
>>722167649Whatever, multiple news outlets reported it, as far as i care it's the truth.
>>722163268>he doesn't earn at least 30 bucks an hour in the year of our lord 2025
>>722167737Because iPhone is a failiure obviously. Nobody owns that shit. They're smaller than Nokia today.t. Playstation user
>>722167380>ghostwire tokyoIt has on humble bundle, pretty sure you can get it for less than $10 if you search for it
>>722162192$360 per year is too much for owning nothing, simple as that.
>>722163195Unironically: Forza Horizon 6 is probably the last MS title I buy.
>>722167803literally not a single news outlet claimed what you claimed. they all quoted a linkedin post yet none of them claimed it was from 2025 or from an investors call like you claimed. it's just a random number with no time frame or context.
>>722162192We NEED Denuvo on every single game starting from now on. Ban game purchasing, only renting.
Fuck them, I hope AI cripples them
>>722167925Try doing it better then lol lmao
>>722162506Don't forget>raises price of Xbox consoles despite being the least sold console worldwide Xbox is dead. Gamepass is good but not $30/month good, and Playstation's alternative has largely caught up and is a lot cheaper. The only downside is not offering it for PC. I don't understand Xbox's desire to die so quickly
Sam's Club, Costco are not selling Xbox on America. Australia EBGames is not selling Xbox. Europe has not been selling Xbox for years. But the trust the anon plan and GamePass will sell more and more, it's a growing healthy businesss which is why it's getting jacked up prices.Good morning Brasilia and New Dehli marketers. Do the needful for 1 month GamePass membership cards.
>>722168005i already said we don't know the numbers. the entire discussion is pointless. arguing about something literally nobody posting here knows definitively. however you can infer conclusions, such as a company doubling down on something suggests it's doing better than the doubters think.
>>722163431Yeah try pirating flight simulator 2024
Doubter bros we're losing. When retailers worldwide stop selling Xbox consoles, it means GamePass will grow by trillions on PC. Doubter bros we're losing so hard in this thread. Everyone in this thread said they will renew DRM Rent Pass, GamePass subscriptionrs will go up so much Microsoft won't announce the numbers.Total doubters BTFO in this thread. Sir my gamepass 1 month trial card please sirs I did the needful redeem my card please I'm from Brazil.
>>722168138>a company doubling down on something suggests it's doing better than the doubters think.No it doesn't.
>>722168082>Playstation's alternative has largely caught up and is a lot cheaperNigga I own a PS5. PS+ even the Premium tier is dogshit compared to Gamepass. The one benefit PS+ had over XGP was Ubisoft Classics but now XGP has them, alongside EA Play, Bethesda, Activision, Riot and now Epic Games content. Not including all the other day 1 stuff that lands on XGP. PS+ doesn't even do PS games day and date. Fucking COD will be day and date on XGP. Don't know how you can say it's caught up in any way. They've never been further away from each other.
>increase the console prices>increase the sub prices right afterThey have to be sabotaging themselves at this point.
>vote orange man>buytards get fucked
>>722162192>'Day one on Gamepass' is now $30/moI'm looking forward to seeing what my friends and coworkers, who are always talking about how great Gamepass is, have to say about this.
>>722168465Yesterday was the last day I would ever shill Game Pass as a good value.$30/mo? Fuck outta here.
>>722168456Digital subscriptions are now subject to 50% tariffs. Who knew
>>722162192at this point it's only worth it for the most diehard of xfags, seriously what are they thinking
>>722162192I'm going to cancel if this goes through
>>722168312MS is exiting the console hardware race, only third party companies will create Xbox branded machines
imagine being more expensive than fucking Netflix lmao
>>722163117The FTC that moderated the acquisition was under the Biden administration, Trump's administration is not going to do anything to stifle big tech.
>>722168257I pirate gamepass.Just make a new account every month and cancel+ask for refund.
>>722168697>iflol
What's the Riot games shit? Did MS buy them out or what? I haven't heard about LOL in probably a decade, unless it's for the other spinoff shit they made that nobody played.
>>722168257more like unc simulator :skull:
Sony is in the perfect position to make online free and turn PS+ into purely a benefits service but they're ran by retards so they won't.
>almost 360 bucks per yearYeah, I'm out. Gonna sell this piece of shit.
>>722163928I'd hate to be a console warrior for a company as retarded as M$ at this point. You can't use the excuse of them being one of the many arms on the US government payroll when they continue to do stupid shit like this. You'd think the whole show is cursed with the level of incompetence they have on display here.
>>722169065whenever microsoft does anything sony usually follows shortly after. expect psplus price hikes soon too and they'll all use global economy as an excuse when in reality it's all to achieve higher profit margins, because you damn well know they aren't going to lower the prices again when the "global economy" gets better
>>722169065They've already done what Xbox is doing now ages ago, and "people" are still glazing them.
>>722168635Xbox console business stopped growing for years. GamePass hasn't grown on consoles or PC. Ergo, they have to increase the prices to maintain this insane loss-leading rent DRM ponzi scheme going. Every time Sony/Nintendo sell a console, they recoup from selling online membership or video game sales (physical or digital). They have avenues for profitability, Nintendo out of the 3 is dependent on selling their consoles.When you buy a PC you can either pirate or own the games. Renting games is such a non-factor, much less "Streaming" which is the European retard brain thinking they're fighting global warming by doing this. I digress, when someone plays on PC they're not beholden to pay for online. Nor do they fit in a single lane since they can buy from GOG or EGS or Steam. Or again, third world piracy behavior. Nintendo and Sony consoles don't explode without online access, after all they have physical market as well. But Xbox? All they have is digital. They lost customers who want physical and they lost customers who can't pay for the overpriced Xbox Series X and they lost console owners who care about exclusives. They lost customers who would just rather pay for their games on PC entirely. This heavily affects Game Pass because the heart of the business is related to consoles, PC fanboys aren't going to touch it. Adding to the death spiral is the announcement and quasi announcements that retailers in the USA, Australia, Canada just aren't going to keep Xbox inventory anymore. In Europe they were long gone around 2023. It's a literal death spiral and the reason Xbox is paying to play pretend is so their diehards don't all immediately cancel. Microsoft's goal is the charade they're a console business when they're a 3rd party publisher with an antique console. Objectively evil to lead people on like this, pied piper shenanigans. SEGA held a conference and said it was over. Microsoft on the other hand has been pretending to be in business for years.
>>722169163unfortunately microsoft are the only company putting out games consistently, so i will side with them for that reason alone. this year we've had ninja gaiden remake, ninja gaiden 4, outer worlds 2, indiana jones, doom, black ops 7 and also big hitters like silksong on the service. in comparison what the fuck are sony and nintendo doing? why didn't sony fund ninja gaiden for ps+?
>>722162506>>Xbox hardware sales are so bad entire storechains are removing the systems from shelvesDo you reckon Fucking EB would still buy an Xbone Series X now with the rolling price hikes? I might as well dump this shit now before it becomes a paperweight like TESO. I couldn't even get a quarter for that piece of shit on the tradein.
>>722169065Not a Sony thread, go make one. Nintendo's most pressing matter is lowering the price or maintaining the price of the Switch 2. Sony' most pressing goal is the same as Nintendo. Every time Sony announces a PC port it self sabotages their attempt to make a handheld, because Sony's handheld will be competing with other PC handhelds who can play their games. In the pursue of short term financial gain, Sony exploded their handheld division they just don't realize it yet.
pc gamepass is somewhat repulsivemost people talk about it "just try x game for cheap on gamepass" but many of those are gonna be behind 27€ paywall
gamepass is profitable by the way
>>722168536>$360 a yearLol, those quaaludes seem to be working for MS, but someone forgot to mention that this isn't the Wolf of Wall Street but shitty game pass. It was already overpriced.
>>722162757Is this bait or are you serious? I cant tell anymore
>MS does something stupid>B-BUT SONYwhy are MSjeets like this
>ever paying full price for a subscriptionlmao
You can buy a Switch 2 and PS5 for the price of an Xbox Series X. lol.
>>722169363>this year we've had [multiplats]
>>722169652What site is this
>>722162192Even at $30 it's still pretty good deal to play every now and then. There's quite a lot of single player games there.
>>722169495this is console + pc my illiterate finnish friendpc alone is a different sub that cost $11.99 and now costs $16.49 (14eur?)
>>722169693>all on gamepassbuying those games alone will cost more than just subscribing.
>>722169495
>>722168082>xbox was created as the dude bro console >masculinity is now evil>so xbox had to not just die, but needs to be humiliated firstit's that shrimple
>>722169495>paying for ads>somewhat repulsiveI'd call that downright pathetic since AI has been making the rounds lately for marketing agencies. It's one thing to watch some poorly acted skits trying to sell trash. It's another thing entirely watching some AIshart trying to hock off shit to you that probably doesn't even exist in the form that is being shown.
>>722162192americans??? HELLLOOOOOO?!?!?1 ANYONE NOT A BOT ACTUALLY THERE?? YOUR CURRENCY IS CRASHING ARE YOU RETARDED???
It's really over for xbox
I can't wait for Xbox GamePass sirs to sell me on Deus Ex Remaster being part of the subscription tiers when you can buy it for 1 dollar on PC and mod it in 30 minutes. This is why I gave the example about Mario 3 earlier in the thread. The amount of cheap games out there is staggering and you can own them forever. The sales pitch for SIRS PLEASE PAY MY RENT never made sense.
I can barely keep up with playstation's bottom tier sub monthly games and i have sizeable backlog of those already, how do fuckers find time for all this bullshit is beyond me, i bet they just play 10 mins and forget about it.
>>722169363Not a fan of that line up. Glad I moved on from this.
>>722169804okay well its impossible to google pc game pass page that doesnt lead to 27€ offer for ultimate
>>722162192thank you for this post, almost forgot to cancel my upcoming renewal
In year of our lord, 2025, fucking Sony is only the third most tone deaf video game company, what the fuck are Nintendo and Xbox doing
>>722170240Shooting themselves in the face repeatedly while the world burns around them. So much for a healthy industry.
>>722170178Look down the page. There's a PC only option.
>>722170240Focus on the Xbox thread Brasilia New Dehli 3rd worldie sir. Do you want to talk about the second consecutive price increase for Xbox console in 3 months or do you want to talk about the Xbox GameDRMPass rent increase? Not Sony or Nintendo.
>>722170240Sony already pulled this shit multiple times. It's their norm now.
>>722168257why the fuck would I pirate flight simulator?do I look autistic to you?
It's a bit crazy to think that even with all these price increases, Xbox is still cheaper to own and play one than a PS5. That's the kicker here. PS5 is so incredibly expensive that it makes these price increases look reasonable.
Used it to beat doom eternal and expedition 33, for 12 bucks i got my moneys worth.
>30 dollars a month>to RENT GAMESthe utter state of normies
>>722162506>Philthe leader of Xbox is a DEI hire black chick.
>>722164017rent free.
Worth noting that PC gamepass still retains the day one games and is much cheaper.Pc always wins.
Xbox did a Tokyo game show pandering to Japanese and using Japanese, despite Japan not even caring that Xbox exists.SO embarrassing.
>>722169065why would they give up free money, you know how many people just subscribe to play COD or FIFA, millions
>>722162192>Thirty dollars a monthAre they insane?
>$360 a year>keep nothinghow do normies justify subscription slop?
>>722170537The funniest thing is that despite the higher price, PS5 is outselling Xbox in some crazy 3:1 or perhaps higher ratio.
>>722163725Wait is the fortnite sub and ubisoft + NOT comming to the PC gamepass version? Those two things are the only excuse I can come up with for the price increase.
>>722169363You can play these on PC and some even on PS5, and sure, you can play them on goypass but you're not playing and beating 7 games in a month, specially if you want to grind the cod multiplayer or get the multiple endings in OW2, even then, if you want to replay them in a year or two when nothing new is releasing, that's basically the price of a new game. Also, most players that enjoy ninja gaiden don't play cod, or fifa, so that's not worth for most people.Idk, gamepass was never worth it for me, I bought the master chief collection for $40 and played through it in 2 weeks, but I can replay whenever I want (and I have thanks to coop)
>>722170838what are xbox owners gonna dobuy games? lmao
$360$479 will get you a 9800x3D you keep forever.
>>722170537Do you mean the Series S? Because Series X is now more expensive than ps5
>>722162192
>>722168697You won't do shit
>>722162192>Oh shit, people were getting too much value for their money!
Microsoft have tons of money, why are they not taking a loss to gain market sharetheir jeet CEO is a retard.
>>722170963They really took after the weird af dreamcast ads with this one
>>722170910Xbox doesn't do marketing very well so it makes sense.>>722170958Yeah or even base Series X vs base PS5. It still comes out cheaper in the long term because Sony doesn't offer any deal like Gamepass with Day 1 games and stuff.
>>722170958The Xbox Consoles consoles are all more expensive than Switch 2 and PS5, combined. But you're on /v/ which has a sizeable third world population that games on 11 year old GTX 660 and Series S which are e-waste products.
>>722163117This would be true if we weren't living under an FTC that can just be bought. Reminder that part of the specific trade deal that Microsoft made to acquire all of the companies they spend billions of dollars to acquire, was that they would not be laying off employees or increasing prices to justify the money they spent on the acquisition. They then proceeded to do exactly that and are continuing to do that because you could literally just give the FTC a few million dollars and they will overlook everything that you do
>>722171118no competition. gamepass is the only service like itself in the industry. no competition on xbox or on pc especially.
>>722171118>Microsoft have tons of money, why are they not taking a loss to gain market sharebecause they've been taking a loss since the xbox one, and now they're saying>okay that's enough you should actually be making money by now
>>722162192Honestly, I never really saw the value in GoyPass in the first place. Maybe at the beginning for a dollar but the library has always been kinda shit. Mostly old crap, indie garbage and live service cancer. That's why they went on their 80 billion shopping spree to pad their day one offerings, except the quality of the titles has been abysmal.Now 360$ a year, lmao. And you don't even own anything... This is beyond retarded.
>>722170713>DEI hire black chickSarah Bond represented MS on the ActiBlizz acquisition case. She's not just a DEI hire.
can someone explain why zoomers are ok with:>$30/month game pass>$200/month on netflix/hulu/etc>$10 for spotify premiumand you own nothing. like the WEF wants.
Ah yes the competition for Game Pass. Valve, Nintendo, and Sony are practically defacing themselves to "compete" in a loss-leading market designed so you own nothing and will never own nothing. The New Dehli and Brasilia sirs defense force for Xbox, the last line of defense in these hard times when not even Costco and EBGames have Xbox in stock.Fucking earned, get fucking shit on dogshit anti comsumer brand from hell. Play your digital games with the devil.
>>722170395>thread about brand fucking themselves up>guys even the other brand who is infamous for pulling this kind of bullshit isn't as bad as this brand>somehow this is offtopic or unreleatedLmao, take your meds, schizoIn any board you can compare brands in any thread, but only /v/ is full of retards who will seethe if you mention another product, what causes this
>>722171347and they raise prices on old shitty xbox hardware? twice?who is buying an xbone over building a PC which can torrent infinite free games/apps?
>>722171347xbox one gen was profitable. they admitted this in court twice. once in the abk case and also in the epic vs apple case when microsoft were called to testify.
>>722169649Xbox fags are pathetic.
>>722171412millennials are the ones who ushered this in
>>722168832>Trump's administration is not going to do anything to stifle big techTrump is quite probably 100 times more against big tech that the biden people could be, since you know, since 2016 big tech has been completely against them.
>>722171412zoomers are playing free/cheap games on 10 year old laptops and burning their dopamine receptors on tiktok, this is on shitllenials
>>722171754Thank you for admitting zoomers can't afford 800 dollar GPU upgrades or that their 400 dollar 8GB VRAM GPUs can't play games making them e-waste products. The PC master race pricing out zoomers so hard :)
>>722171224>Reminder that part of the specific trade deal that Microsoft made to acquire all of the companies they spend billions of dollars to acquire, was that they would not be laying off employees or increasing prices to justify the money they spent on the acquisition.This is specifically my point, they broke the deal and the FTC has to sue them and make them pay a big price, corporations shouldn't just be willy nelly buying shit with some conditions and then just breaking them as if they're above the law.
>>722171581>>722171754butthurt zoomie
>>722171832yes, but do you think that's good?
>>722171842I fully get what you're getting at. And I agree fully with you that they should honestly be sued for breaking their end of the deal. But the current FTC is very eager to just take money that companies offer in exchange for a "get out of jail free" card
>>722171832>shitting on the younger generation for not being as financially well offyou turned into the boomer you spent countless hours seething about
Incredible how just few years ago MS making massive multi-billion publisher buyouts was making waves in the industry and years later they've done... nothing with those purchases and their gaming brand is effectively dead or lukewarm at best
>>722171412two of those are retarded boomers that created the problem and the first one are millenials, zoomers don't touch expensive videogames even the retarded ones
why pay thousands in subscriptions for xbox/netflix/disney/hulu/spotify, when you own none of it?
anyone paying a subscription just to play indie games is actually retarded
>remove getting gamepass with bing points>increase pricei'll just stick to buy cheap games on steam or pirate
>>722164510>Who the fuck still uses goypass?me when i got enough bing points for a month so i can finish 8-12 games i dont think are worth buying
>>722172363its just retards who do that
Post YFW you've never subscribed to Gamepass.
>>722170240nintendo its the only company still making games for gamersnot shitty movies and trying to turn their console into a shitty hybrid
>>722165221>rent game>burn game>give game back to the storethis but you weren't born back then
>>722172363if you're intelligent enough you can reap the benefits and ease of access to what these services offer but at much cheaper prices than standard. i've been using gamepass, spotify, netflix etc for years but i play a combined ~£10 a month for all of them because i did a hour of due diligence to find the best ways to get them cheap.
>>722171390She's also a McKinsey alumn, aka throw-your-business-down-the-shitter type of person. Their only talent is to increase c-suite income and shareholder profit. This usually involves getting rid of talent and replacing everything with cheap labor while increasing consumer prices.
must wait a few weeks to see if prices stay the same or changeanyway it have been 2 years since i have "too much stuff" to play from gamepass and my "play in the future" list is almost empty or not really worth subscribing forindia have 3months for 12€
zoom zooms would rather rent games for $360 a year and watch mumble rap on tiktok.what a worthless generation.
>>722174369well fuck my tying errorsyes i'm ESL
>>722173785>the best ways to get them cheap.Which is usually via third parties using stolen credit card information and/or other fraudulent means.
>>722174551not my problem
>>722174585The expected response.
>>722174551no. its usually just signing up in other countries via a VPN and using the region free policies to consume the content in my own country. i still pay using my own card and details.
>>722174781>no. its usually just [fraud]
>>722174890maybe make your prices not a scam and people would not find the cheapest way to get your shit, shill
>>722174890except it's not, because i'm not defrauding anyone. none of these services required an address.
lmao https://x.com/Wario64/status/1973423496610124281
>>722174996You are deliberately altering information to deceive the service and receive a favorable rate. That is textbook fraud.>>722174990Or just don't pay for subscriptions like a consumer and just purchase the things you actually want. Like a customer.
>>722167241I AM A BLOWFISH!
>>722162192To my friends in the US: Look at how Argentina has fared over the last 20 years.You are currently in the 2011-2015 phase. As a suggestion, be aware that the PS6 will cost more than $1,200 with inflation.lmao (PS7 maybe +$4000 in 2036)
zoomers would rather watch tiktok brainrot while playing that stupid subway "game".
And this is why there will only be Nintendo left after 5 years
>>722162192Because the dollar is tanking, and that's why they're raising prices. Until next year, I'll pay the same amount I used to pay in my currency (I'm not American), or even less if the dollar loses all its value.
I was barely using Gamepass anymore and that price increase is too much>go to manage account to cancel>page keeps crashingand I guess a lot of other people agree.
>>722175252>You are deliberately altering informationexcept i'm not. it's not against their TOS. it's literally included in their TOS that you can pay for these services like netflix anywhere and also watch it anywhere. it's region free.
>Xbox doing bad means Sony is doing badPS5 is outselling the Xbox consoles (which have been de-listed by retailers) 8 to 1 on average. The Switch 1 outsells the Xbox One and Xbox Series combined. The Switch 2 is in stock, the Xbox Series isn't held in stock, the PS5's LTD are 80 million, Switch 1 151 million, Switch 2 6 million, and Xbox Series X 9 million. The most popular Series console is the third world S which is all digital with specs from 2012.lol.
remind me why "Sarah Bond" still has a job despite destroying the Xbox brand? The 360 was a great system and peak for console FPS.
>>722171412Surely to God the last two are obsoleteLike Winamp/VLC/Tixati does music and video better than online services for free
why is there some playstation autist itt making up fake arguments
>>722175637>Because the dollar is tanking, and that's why they're raising prices. Until next year, I'll pay the same amount I used to pay in my currency (I'm not American), or even less if the dollar loses all its value.Kinect killed the XBOX, and the failed ONE release buried the brand for good. If it weren't for Minecraft, Microsoft would have already pulled the plug on the entire division.
>>722175739Microsoft pulled the plug on Xbox when they put their games on PC day one in my opinion.
it's official, xbox is now truly dead, it has not a single pro against ps5 anymore with gamepass dead
>>722175842i can play more ps2 games on my xbox than i can on my ps5. not including other bangers from 7th gen like gta 4 or the entire splinter cell series. ps5 doesn't really have much going for it. just get a pc for the best of all words. gta 4 is finally fixed on pc with fusionfix now anyway so you don't need to play the 360 version. although it's still a kino experience.
>>722175842Sony, Nintendo, and Valve are competing against each other for your time. Xbox is paying Indians and Brazilians to post on the internet how great things are going on the Xbox ecosystem (which isn't being sold in most retailers now worldwide). Just because Xbox is dead/has been dead doesn't mean Sony gets to rest easy, their primary opponents are their own PC port saboteurs and Nintendo/Valve. Nintendo is under pressure to release a Switch 2 Lite to get hardware as low as possible on a tigher deadline. Valve has been met with failures including the Steam Machines, Steam VR, and the Steam Deck. Which the egotistic fanboys won't admit. Valve's biggest fear is getting hit with monopoly lawsuits by the feds.
I did the gamepass trick where you converted 3 years of turkish xbox live cards to ultimate for like 80$, this increase comes the year I have to renew because they patched that out. I'll pay 30$ a month when real games came out like xbox 360 prime. This is the last thing that kept me from buying a ps5, maybe I'll swap to PC too. Xbox must be trying to speed run becoming a software developer only. Every part of modern life subscriptions has been a scam. Netflix, Uber, Xbox, etc.... Fuck the new monopolies.
>>722175252>Or just don't pay for subscriptions like a consumer and just purchase the things you actually want. Like a customer.i dont actually want them for those prices
>>722175818Since OG Xbox, the brand wanted to merge PC/Console. At that time (and even today), Windows was THE consumer OS. Stuff like GFWL and UWP (which came with WIN8) was a way to create a unified Microsoft ecosystem. Like the iOS ecosystem.
>>722162192Damn 1 month of games for the price of... 2 packs of ciggies? one pack of socks?
>>722176154Then wait until they're discounted? Surely you're capable of that, right?
>>722176194>Stuff like GFWL and UWP (which came with WIN8)Don't forget DirectX 9 or 10 features used to be Windows Vista exclusive.
doom eternal is 5 dollars on steam. Silksong is 20 dollars.this is $360 to own ZERO GAMES.
>>722162192You're a moron if you didn't see this coming.Every company launches services for cheap to get customers and then raise the price later.
>>722175637Microsoft has always been weird about fully committing to their gaming business (like the time they were pretending that people would also buy the 360 because it was a home theater PC), so the lack of commitment at the highest levels of management eventually bit them in the ass.
the only really great thing gamepass had going for it was "just play it on gamepass" instead of 60$ whatever AAA sloppa came out that you'd only play and finish once but now they don't even have that.
Notch is the smartest man alive, got billions for Minecraft and even that can't save Microsoft.
>>722164510It's $4 a month in my country. Would definitely drop it if it's $30/month
I thank God everyday for making me play retro games and games from early 2010s
>>722176501I was going to renew my subscription to play the new Bayonetta (NG4), but I'm going to skip it.
Is Microsoft betting on AI this hard that they are willing to just completely kill Xbox What happens when that bet doesn't work out either
>>722176745They become an enterprise-focused consulting firm (i.e. parasite) like IBM.
I only ever used PC Gamepass in the first place. I don't have or want an Xbox console. So PC Gamepass went up from $11 to $16.50. Better than Gamepass Ultimate and still good enough for a "let me try this game out over the weekend" kind of thing.I'm more surprised that so may people here had no idea about PC gamepass in the first place. Did people on /v/ literally not know this existed and just assumed Gamepass was only an Xbox console thing?
Listen if we just hire 1 million, no, 2 MILLION more indians we can save xbox
>>722176616The PC gamepass I mean
>>722176625Same, its not even nostalgia some of these games I only ever seen in PCmags and they are great.I dont even mind buying them on steam because often they are 1 dollar.
>>722171379when I got layed off I played through like 8 single player games in one month so it was worth it. oldie titles are fine. Even when I got a job 2 months later I still had gamepass just to finish a few more on the log
>>722176745They said Call of Duty going on GamePass will bring MILLIONS of new customers. Not only did did that not happen, but COWA DOOTY isn't even included in the regular tiers for GameDRMSIRSPass. Also why are you overthinking this? The service relies on console owners, especially digital only, to buy into the DRM Pass. Without consoles being sold, the number of people they can trap in their dogshit subscription service lowers. That's all there is to it, the number of consoles sold = number of retards they could theoretically sub the rent scheme. It accelerated because Microsoft is putting out more Xbox games on Playstation and Nintendo, which again craters whatever little value Xbox consoles have. Someone looking to buy GTA6 is going to go with Playstation (or Nintendo Switch 2 if a port happens) because they get their exclusives. The vast majority of the public, especially zoomers, aren't going to be buying PC handhelds at 900 dollars to spend hours tinkering to get basic games working on them. Microsoft set a landmine with GamePass then they dropped TNT by making handhelds in a crowded ultra niche market that's comparable to VR gaming in size.
>>722162506Companies are not being logical. They wanted people to be poorer and childless so now they are facing reality: not enough people to buy your products
>>722162192>pay more to have lessand in my shithole of a country it will triple the price. thank you microshit
>>722176745The thing is I think the AI bet is probably going to work out for them. It isn't snake oil anymore, there is (unfortunately for society as a whole) real interest in AI solutions in the corporate world and companies are gobbling up licenses for copilot eager to see how it can fit in their workflow. Meanwhile the Xbox has been at best stagnant for over a decade.
>>722176985No one gives a shit Brazilian New Delhi scammer. Fuck off with your renting SIRS Pass. Game Pass has been a thing for closer to a decade, you're not convincing anyone much less PC gamers to be in your cult.
>>722162192The problem with game pass is that they are so late to patch the games. They have outdated buggy versions of the games and microsoft takes forever to push patches through. To charge more money for a service that is inferior to steam is greedy.
>>722177328I've heard their cert process for patches is terrible, but that's like the least of their worries at this point
>>722176985You can't blame them. All people see is "Xbox Gamepass" everywhere and even the website tucks away the PC Only option. I'm surprised they didn't just mold it in with Premium and removed the PC only one honestly
I will redeem
>>722162192>"we're profitable guys, trust!">raise prices while removing featuresMake it make sense, guys
>>722162192I said this was going to happen and people should have seen it coming. They're not getting enough subscribers, they're giving you these $70-$80 games free in the subscriptions at a low price. I knew this was going to bite them in the ass and lead to them putting Day 1s only in the Ultimate tier and raising the prices for all. Them killing their console also meant no more separate GamePass. Those also needed to merge into one. Get fucked Xbots, now you're going to have to buy games too unless you want to spend $30 a month for Day 1 games.
Phil Spencer will do another interview in a few months about the state of xbox and how they'll never catch up to playstation despite their best efforts.These being their best efforts to catch up.
>>722162192Why are prices going up? Why isn't AI makimg things cheaper?!
>>722178152>Phil Spencer will do another interview in a few months about the state of xbox and how they'll never catch up to playstation despite their best efforts. These being their best efforts to catch up.“We’re not in the business of out-consoling Sony or out-consoling Nintendo. There isn’t really a great solution or win for us. I know that will upset a ton of people, but it’s just the truth of the matter. When you’re third place in the console marketplace and the top two players are as strong as they are and, in certain cases, have very discrete focus on doing deals and other things make being on Xbox hard as a team - that’s on us, not on anybody else - ....But we’re not in a position - and I see out there, I see commentary, that if you just build great games everything would turn around. It’s just not true that if we go off and build great games, all of the sudden you’re going to see console shares shift in some dramatic way. I see a lot of pundits out there that kinda want to go back to the time when we all had cartridges and discs and every new generation was a clean slate and you could switch the whole share. That’s just not the world that we are in today. There’s no world where Starfield is an 11/10 and people start selling their PS5s. That’s not gonna happen.” t. Phil Spencer (the CEO of Microsoft Gaming)
>>722162192They NEED the GPUs not to run your AAA slop, but to train the AI shit
>>722164875What's the exploit?
>>722169652>>722169717it's says>K4Gbut if you want to really knowAll Key Shop
>>722162192>not available in your country Mongoliathanks, very cool
>>722165805>>722166596I just want to point out that the largest technology company on Earth cannot figure out how to make a "buy thing" button work, even when they control the client, server, and all the infrastructure between. MS is truely hopeless.
>>722167241I miss Xbox Live being only $60 a year. Gamepass didn't exist then but they were giving out 4 free games every month so it was still a good value. With Core being $10 a month now it's effectively double the old rate and just not worth using anymore except on those rare occasions I feel like actually playing multiplayer games
You can't even cancel your subscription rn Their website is overloaded lol
I have a huge backlog of games that I couldn't care less, then again I only play Genshin Impact lmaoAlso I think I'm gonna cancel/downgrade PS+ as well next year when my subscription runs out
>>722165410PlayStation 5 consoles are in for another price hike, my Snoy friend. You really should just get a Switch 2 and Steam Deck and when the Steam Deck 2 releases in 2028, trade in your Deck for a Deck 2.
>>722178967>nigger on a ladderThanks Microsoft very cool.
Based Phil ain't based anymore
>>722178398You can chain $1 new/trial accounts with spoof email accounts
>>722166406>bought an Xbox One X recently for $200this is a joke, right? or did you accidentally add an extra zero?
this is don mattrick tier shit
>>722167241>They still have me over a barrel cus you HAVE to have Core aka Xbox Livehahaha sucks to suck faggot, you're still part of the problem, enjoy getting ass raped by M$
>>722162192Wait there's only 400 games on xbob gamepass? I have more isos than that on my usb hard drive.
>>722179075You are a pathetic PC brand fanboy. A Valve Vegan certified 100%.
>>722179636The One X was the premium model and a decent upgrade over the base Xbox One. It was capable of doing 4k on a lot of games and had better specs really than even the later Series S
>>722169291I honestly think both Microsoft and Sony are evil for this, the moment you open the Pandora's box of giving your exclusive games to your rivals, it's over. Both see multiplatform as the future, both plans to make expensive 10th gen devices, both plans to increase the price of their first party games as a signal to AAA third parties to do the same, both increases the price of their subscriptions. The next gen Xbox home unit will essentially be a prebuilt PC made by Microsoft for $1000, no Game Launchers, no Windows desktop thus locking you in the Xbox full screen experience and Microsoft Store and ecosystem, with backwards compatibility but Xbox One games list is getting gimped, sold only on the Microsoft Store online not retailers, only in NA and the UK as a reference device for Xbox OEMs without BC, but with GLs and WD. The PS6 is only going to be a jump in Ray Tracing, is going to be around $800+ while having basically a Steam Deck 2-like handheld in specs (PS6 handheld) that's $600+. Both are also idiotically pushing to have dedicated NPUs and AI Accelerators in their Xboxes and PlayStations which is why the prices are getting pushed up. Future of gaming is Nintendo and Valve with the Switch 2 at $450 and the Steam Deck 2 at $550 as Valve won't put dedicated NPUs and AI Accelerators in the Deck 2.
Xbots deserve this. This is what they get for defending the buyout for activision
>>722173421I've never signed up for a subscription service of any kind (netflix, amazon prime, or whatever else there are). I don't count utilities like internet, phone or electricity to that.
>>722171379>$360 a yearYou might as well spend the full $70-$80 on games at this point. Talk about going a full 360.
I'm not poor so this doesn't affect me.
>>722162192>let's make sony even stronger by making xbox even less relevantit's like MS is intentionally killing off its gaming division and putting all chips into AI. except another massive wave of layoffs by the end of this year.
>>722180662Your mom paying for it doesn't count.
>>722179884Cope bitch, PlayStation and Xbox are dead
Based Phil
I use to get PC game pass for "free" with Microsoft RewardsI just paid with timeTime to sail the high seas again I suppose
>>722178398You could buy multiple years of the vase gamepass and convert them to ultimate in a 3:1 ratio and you could get a year for £30 or thereabouts so it would come out to £90 for the year which is a good deal. Or you could use 3x EA Play 12 month subs to do the same thing. Depends on where you live and what your prices are. Also they patched the loophole for a few countries which were really cheap like turkey.
>>722180662Same. Even with my mid tier job I'm still making €2300 a month and pay <€300 in bills. Everything else is pure savings for luxuries like this.
>>722177498It's the other way around in my country. Only thing I got is the PC one and they bumped it up from $4 to $6
>>722164391dude, just pirate shit
>>722164757>muh shitsongAre you illiterate? Gamepass is a rental service. You pay the fee, you can play more than one game in a month.
>>722162192ultimate seems overloaded with shit>ubisoft classics>fortnite crew>ea playwhat if someone doesn't want all this shit and they just want AAA games like CoD and doom and all the other fotm shit? you gotta pay for all that extra shit
>>722165116>underageb&s don't know what rentals are and repeat the mantra from the 2015 wef tweet because they can only think in memes and canned phrases
>>722178128They got stuck at 30 million gamepass subs, which is way too low to justify pushing new day-one AAA first-party titles. I assume their goal was to become as big as netflix within 5 years and then keep aggressively lowering prices, even offering a free tier with 50 titles until they hit 1 billion users globally across all devices (including mobile phones). It seems this model isn’t working, and there might be two reasons for that: either the netflix model will never work with video games and they made a big fucking miscalculation, or, like countless other tech companies, they were ahead of their time and didn’t know how to make the numbers go up. It would be funny as hell if gamepass died within a year and then Sony or Nintendo built their own billion-user monopoly in the next couple of years.
>>722165824my favorite games aren't on gamepass doehow can it be a monopoly if I still have to buy games outside of it
>>722180686Phil's leaving just before or after the next Xbox drops, so I think the division has until the end of 2027. He seems like the kind of leader that's willing to go down with the ship, for all his other faults, so I imagine it will be him to deliver the news and hang on until the last moment. Bond will be entirely cluless about all of this, I'm not even sure she really understands that she's the President of the division. She probably thinks MS corporate is required to find new work for her afterwards.
Xbox already died in 2013. All this extra crap over a decade later is just the continued death throes of a corporation with way too much money
>>722181567>either the netflix model will never work with video gamesThe Netflix model doesn't even work for Netflix. Everyone is clamouring to do this, but Netflix was a perennial loser, quarter after quarter, until everyone got locked into their homes for years and a former US president and his partner joined the board and directed a lot of grift into the company. "The Nexflix model" has nothing to do with streaming or subscriptions or whatever.
>>722181567I would have subbed a while ago when it was cheaper but they never made gamepass available in my countryI don't know how many regions they've left out but if they're really looking for more subs then they're missing the low hanging fruit which is to just make the thing available everywhereAlso if they're really that desperate they could also make a gamepass steam edition, just like how EA has an EA play version specifically for steam
>>722163928Please tell me she has a penis
Subscriptions services have never worked, why even bother when the average person can just pirate or buy it when it's dirt cheap.The only time it worked was when psycail rental stores like blockbuster existed. But we don't have those anymore
>>722182143She sticks hers in small animals
>>722182262The average person is a consolefag.
>>722164757I have legit only finished maybe about 20 games on steam, with serious time in a couple of 4x games you don't really finish, out of hundreds.I know what I'm likely to like at this stage. Its so absurdly cheaper than gamepass to just buy games.
>>722181567I would say it's the former, they couldn't get Nintendo, Sony, or Valve on board with Game Pass, because they killed their own phones and didn't even use the Google strategy which is how they got on Androids, Game Pass was always doomed to fail. 2022 was a disaster for Xbox because they were preoccupied with their ABK court case which led to a drought with the Xbox Series X|S. It's basically over for them. We're going to be seeing a slow shift back to Nintendo and PC as the market leaders of gaming again. Neither Nintendo or Valve will tell third parties what to do so those devs are going to have to see how Nintendo and Valve make games and go back to the creative spirit of the 80s-early 2000s that was lost. Indie and AA developers seem to get the memo.
>>722162192HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAthankyou Mr President
>>722162192What tier has BO7?
hm something doesn't seem right...
>>722182262If subscription services didn't work, there wouldn't be so many of them around. The real thing is that many of them are driven by the "line must go up" stockholder appeasing mentality, or outside factors (companies making their own subscription services, so stuff that might have gone on netflix isn't going there anymore). As such, they tend to have something of a shelf life, where one ends, and another one begins.
>>722182390Even consolefags have bargain bin sales and deep cuts sales. What's the value to gamepass that just can't be circumvented by just waiting?
>>722182554see here >>722182512LMAO
Single player game? Pirate time.pozed online game or uncracked? Stolen cdkey time.Only an idiot would pay monthly for this gay "hobby"
>>722162192>40$ CADLOL no thanks bud
>>722162192>Gamepass price increaselollmaobought it for around 80$/3years and i still felt ripped off
>>722182512European cries out in pain because his tax money goes to Ukraine and he has to pay big cock America for weapons to send to Ukraine. Tries to make a big deal out of shitbox DRM pass costing more, lmao. Euroshit little tards.
>>72218268610 billion more to israel80 billion to argentina0 to american gamersHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
>>722182754European shut the fuck up, no one respects you.
>>722182793aren't you glad your vote countsyou can directly feel the effectsEL EM EF AY OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>722182793Joe it's time to die for Israel
>>722182754So true, what an embarrassing country
>>722179636What the first guy said, and also apparently it was a “Project Scorpio” launch model that had a slightly different skin, hence the price jump because it was rarer. It came with a few games too, like Lost Odyssey and Halo 5, so not too bad I’d say.
>>722182458>see how Nintendo and Valve make games and go back to the creative spirit of the 80s-early 2000s that was lost. Indie and AA developers seem to get the memo.I think EA going private is a sign of a massive shift in the industry. The current model isn’t sustainable, and the quality of games has gone to hell for many reasons, the biggest being woke initiatives, ESG, DEI, and far-left activists dictating what kinds of games should be made, along with open contempt and hatred toward gamers. It’s a sink-or-swim moment for Western gaming companies, especially the American ones, before China takes over.
>>722182262yet you subscribe to your ISP, curious
>>722183487Yup, GTA 6 will be the kicker for a massive change in the industry, when that flops, it's over for AAA.>American game development will shift to indies and AA with the AAA gradually dying>other western and eastern AAA will be taken over by Saudis and Chinks, maybe Gooks and Pajeets>smart Japanese AAA will start putting their games on Switch 2 and optimizing for Steam Deck and Steam Deck 2>indie/AA scene will see a massive explosion of a golden age in America, Japan, and the rest of the world with the death of wokeness>Nintendo and Valve will sit at the top of this thrown with the Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 being the only affordable options for 10th generationGo big or go home is no longer going to cut it.
>>722162192You would have to be dumbest, blackest, most gorilla nigger ever to get gamepass now
>>722182754>80 billion to argentinaWoah, really? That's great! Based trump
>>722183942I really wish this would happen but in reality things always go in many unexpected (shitty) directions. GTA 6 can't flop, that thing is as certain as gravity.
>>722162192SAAAR BUY THE SUBSCRIPTION PLAY GAMES SAAR
>>722184485Who says it can't? PlayStation 5 is due for another price increase, and GTA 6 will be the first $100 game. There is no way GTA 6 can pay for its insane budget. If age verifications hit online video games here in the US, that will be another nail in the coffin for the GTA series.
>>722163928Tim dog sisters...
/v/ was awfully cocky about Xbox's imminent success back in 2020 when Phil announced all of these studio acquisitions. What happened?
>>722169205>expect psplus price hikes soon tooThey've already done it multiple times
>>722184984I believed in Phil's lies
>>722184984Microsoft literally hires South Americans and Indians to shill. The rewards are Xbox monthly DRMPassCards. Game Pass is a loss-leading service tied directly with how many consoles they can sell. No consoles, the service flatlines. Retailers dumped Xbox so sells flatline harder, thus they squeeze the remaining fanboys harder. Microsoft just has to pretend to make another console to keep some of their most devoted in line to renew SIRS PASS.
>>722184802there are literally people who only play gtait doesn't matterevery normalfag is going to be playing that shit even if they have to buy it on credit
>>722185209>Paid in Gamepass subsgirm
>>722185303GTA couldn't even carry the last Xbox and PlayStation, it's over.
>>722165410>MASTERPIECES like Ghost of Yotei
>>722162506>Xbox hardware sales are so bad entire storechains are removing the systems from shelves1 store chain*A chain whose primary business is groceries
Subscription rugpulls dont work unless you already have tons of usersMicrosoft is so fucking dumb
>>722185818What was the chain?
>>722185778>1st - everyone and their dogs praise it>2nd game is the same game with gender swap for mc - hurr durr it's da bad gameWhat gives?
>shill Silksong as a reason to use Gamepass>literally cheaper to just buy the game itself and play it for a monthLMAOOOOOOO
unironically people will just stop using itbasically just like netflixonce enough shits disappear off and the price increase too much to be worth it people just stop using it
>>722186763Sam's Club, Costco dropped Xbox in USA. In Australia EBGames ditched them. Canadian Walmart only stocks through 3rd party affiliates. Xbox has not been restock in major European countries and the middle east region for years. Microsoft's turd world marketers (Brazilians, Eastern Europeans) are currently trying to salvage the brand as much as possible. Oh and by the way, Microsoft's last firing spree cost them their localization/regional branches in Europe. Customer service and distribution in Europe for Xbox doesn't really exist anymore, but the Brazilians and Southeast Asian and Eastern Europeans getting paid in XboxScamPass 1 month cards fight on the shill fight on the internet to gaslight others into REDEEMING THE RENEWAL BUTTON.
>>722187172being forced to play with a different character in a franchise always makes a shit gamemgs2 ? shitdmc4-5? shitninja gaiden 4? shit resident evil? the exception till 5
>>722162192you can buy 14 day long for 2 bucks on the internet
>>722187728i'm more worried what will happen to the games i got gifted on the xbox shit on pc than on steam
Modern day Xbox fags be like >yeah I do renewal trial cancelling on 14 days streaks>yeah I am a SIRS from India/South America>yeah this is a viable business model that can lastlol.
>>722187849Sam's Club and Costco are grocery chains? That's rich. I buy my aocohofl from Sam's Club
>>722187923wrongwitcher 4 - best game in series
>>722162506>Xbox hardware sales are so badthe only period when Xbox hardware sales was not been bad was 2006~2010 with the Xbox360.Every other year was microsoft losing tons of money with the xbox division.
>>722162192>No longer worthwhile to use the dumb reward points for free PC game passWell I hope Outer Worlds 2 is still a day 1 release since I think I have enough gas left in the tank to take a look at it, but otherwise eh
Goypass Ultimate went from $20 to ~$24 in MexicoBrazilians got a higher price increase (over 100%) LMAO
What possible reason could they have to justify this
>>Price of games goes up>"This is fine.">Price of game subscription service goes up>"Outrage"
>>722188206yes with a character who they slapped the name Ciri because they couldn't make the same model from 3
>>722188559Huehues get shit on by everyone. PS5 is like $1200 there, some monkey was asking me to ship him shit with a fake manifest. How do these people live?
>>722188682fuck you pay me
>>722188754because only retards pay for games at launch
>>722188754Games go on sale, gamepass will only get more expensive
I just realized they removed Xbox Game Pass from Bing rewards today. I was holding out to play Doom and Metafor Refantazio when I had nothing else to play. Oh well. Fucking scam. Now it takes 15k points for $15 PLUS an extra $1.50
>poorfag problems
>>722188850It's the same model, lighting was different, angle was wrong, you know how it go with girls
>>722163195>a few milliononly forza and call of duty does that much lol all the other games are trash no one wantsjust like how doom dark ages flopped lol
>>722183434Loved that console. I got one used at a pawn shop in like 2018 for 200 I think? Multiplats and early days of game pass were great on it.
>>722188754Poorfags pay for everything on subscription. Their TV, their music, their video games, their car, their house.They don't have much money, so they get more outraged than rich people who can afford to buy things outright and don't care about a $10 increase on a good every 5 years.
I wonder where the people claiming Game Pass was the future are now? As I said in the past, the future of both Xbox and PlayStation is third party publishers for Nintendo and Valve just like all of the rest.
>>722191975Just like Valve Vegan fanboys like you said Steam Machines, Steam VR, and Steam Deck were the future.
>>722188754Games didn't go up 50%. Game pass did.
>>722189554Bing Rewards has sucked ever since they realized it wasn't getting people to switch from Google.
>>722191975You assume Steam won't do something retarded as well at some point to make players abandon the platform. Tying your entire gaming library to an online service is just a bad idea no matter who is running it
This is so genuinely bafflingly poor and idiotic a decision and the backlash is unanimous that this is disastrous that I think they may actually walk it back.
>>722192253It's over, XSnoy, Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2 are the future of gaming. PlayStation and Xbox are on their way out.
>>722192327I have 12k points and I don't even use Bing. I don't even know how I got them. It was enough to get a month of PC Game Pass but now it costs like 16.5k points
>>722162192You will not be missed. I was retarded for even paying $20. My eyes are open, I have ascended. I will be looking into linux tonight.
>>722192485>for nowBold of them to assume you will relapse.
>>722192354Stop coping XSnoy, if you were smart, you would have saw that Sony and Microsoft were screwing up
>>722192354I tied my entire game library to GoG. I'd love to see them try to take away the 500 "backup" installers I have stored on my NAS.
>>722192529I have never once relapsed on a subscription. I even cancelled my humble choice when they limited me to 10 games per month instead of all offers. I may be a retarded consumer but I have control over my will when it comes to cancellations. Now the only thing I am "subscribed" to is wait no I was going to say spotify but I cancelled that too. I don't even pay car insurance anymore.
>>722192370Microsoft is legitimately ran by complete idiots at the moment though. Every decision regarding Xbox lately has been disastrous and their heavy handed transition to Windows 11 has been pissing off a lot of people as well
>>722192675Backing up things you can just freely download from hundreds of places on the internet is retarded
>>722171832what is your point, retard? That young people have no money and are getting fucked in the ass? Such a funny thing!
>>722162192too expensive$30 a month is like a new game each month without having to sub to gamepass
>>722162192you can buy a lot of shit for $360, including games that won't come to goypass. xbox players should invest that money into new PC and switch 2.
>>722193385You aren't really gonna get a good gaming PC for $300 dollars though especially with the prices of graphics cards. Any PC you can build in that price range will struggle to run games made in the last 10 years
YOU WILL PLAY ZERO GAMES, BOY.
>>722194008ok, but I meant if you were to spend $360 per year then over a longer period of time like 5 years you could buy and own A LOT of stuff (including a gaming PC) compared to wasting all that money on pajeets.
>>722162192it's like my rent going up every year but i get no additional benefits
>>722192832>Backing up things you can just freely download from hundreds of places on the internet is retardedWe didn't learn anything from the Megaupload death, didn't we?
This was the last benefit to even owning an xbox, now it's worthless to even have over anything else.I'm a sucker, I switched to xbox when it first launched because it was an American company I could support, where Sega/Sony/Nintendo were all foreign. 360, I was convinced to stay with all the great games. I kept buying on the digital marketplace. Every generation I continued because of backwards compatibility and that's where my library was.Series X sort of sucked, but atleast I had my library and got gamepass 80$ for 3 years with the turkey priced convert. Xbox slowly started announcing their exclusives were leaving.Now basically Game Pass makes no sense, looks like only PS5 is surviving next gen besides baby Nintendo. All the games I have collected digitally since 360 are essentially worthless. I'm never putting a dollar into xbox again. I don't even trust PS5 will do the same.
>>722194573Yeah I just mentioned it because I recently bought a cheap PC due to my current setup not being compatible with Win 11. For $250 I got an one with a 500gb SSD and 32g gigs of ram which isn't too bad but finding a good graphics card in that price range is basically impossible
>>722195681>looks like only PS5 is surviving next genlol, no it's not. Future is Switch and Steam.
>>722195697on PC you still have some options to play way way above that hardware level with services like geforce now. at least until you save money for good GPU.
>>722195681The Series X is still a good piece of hardware even if continuing to invest into the ecosystem is probably not a good idea. I've been happy with mine even if it basically has no exclusives. Finding cheap used games is still a benefit, you can find tons of 360 and One games at places like pawn shops and thrift stores for very cheap.
>>722164893Xbox Gold shit was pretty based, you could buy like 3 years worth of that shit for $100 and slap a month on top for 3 years of goypass ultimate. Unfortunately they eventually found out about that and fixed it.
>>722196352That's more true for the PS5 desu.
>>722162192Something about this seems weird to me. I'm sure there's a lot more than 400 games on there. But I'm too lazy to look into it.
>>722162192People act like prices of EVERYTHING haven't been increasing by 50%-300% across the board since Bidenflation started. A GamePass price jump is not surprising and not indicative of anything going on with Xbox. Netflix and YouTube also doubled their prices, to name a few.Stop being faggots.
>>722181270But the problem is most of us don't need more than one game a month. I usually keep one retro game, one major game and one online game in my rotation each month and am quite busy with all of that in between working full time. If the service isn't cheaper than the price of one game then it stops being useful to me.
>>722195681Shut up
>>722184802Normalfags. Normalfags usually require two flops in a row to stop buying shit. They will buy into any hype if the previous game is good. They could release rancid dogshit right now and everyone would still buy it. However, GTA7: Double Diarrhea wouldn't sell anymore.
>>722197234Most of the shit on game pass is old. If you play one game a month it's probably cheaper to just buy it than subscribe.
>>722197610Yep and I bet that most people are in that camp, gamepass is desinted to die and has no way out.
>>722197234We're all well aware that /v/ doesn't play games.
>>722197947Sorry I'm employed
>>7221625061.) Xboxes weren't removed from shelves because of sales. Costco is in a bitchslapping fight with Xbox over their bundle prices having to be increased, which is why Costco also removed their entire Xbox brand stock (gift cards, accessories, games, etc). 2.) GamePass IS Xbox software sales, retard. 3.) Everyone is increasing their prices. GamePass hasn't changed their prices in a decade while everyone is tripling theirs.
>>722162192>fallout 76 at marketing >360$ per year I haven't even paid $360 in the last five years. LMAO
This shit isn't sustainable. Said it from the start. 3X the price in 3 years is wild. At this rate it'll be $60 a month by 2028 and $100 a month by 2030.
Use Bing as your search engine about 10x per day and it will pay your Xbox subscription with reward points. Use your fucking heads. I haven't paid for GamePass in years.
>>722198667they’ve increased the price of goypass multiple times and it’s not even 10 years old lol
why do you retards act like there's no inflation and every price increase must mean something important is happening?
>>722198989they removed the ability to purchase goypass with reward points 2 days ago
>>722188559Gamepass PC went from R$ 35 to R$ 70 in Brazil. I cancelled my subscription, fuck kikesoft.
As someone who forked over $2k to upgrade their pc to modern tech because they were too cheap to fork over $200 a year to use ps plus, this situation is very amusing to me. I'm in canada so xbox is basically asking for $480 a year to play dogshit games on day one. Seriously the only fucking new games I played this year was silksong and khazan. Are all console fags finally going to make the switch to pc?
>>722192370They'll wait to see what the retention rate ends up being at these prices. This is calculated risk.
>>722162192>$42 CAD per MONTH for 400 curated games I don't even use xbox but holy shit is that a bad deal
>>722199265If you're a PCfag you only have to pay slightly more than half of the most expensive plan, so it's not THAT bad, but it's still too expensive. It's also kinda funny because they tried to justify the price increase across the board with extra "goodies", but then they just increased the PC goypass price and added fucking nothing, lmao
>>722196352Honestly was fine with the hardware, even missing out on Sony's exclusives. But there is no value left I can even justify xbox myself.
As long as I can still refund at the end of the month they can charge me $1000 for it and I won't care
>>722200704I thought Xbox was a pretty weak value proposition at launch. Same price as PS5 but with no exclusives and a worse controller. The only saving grace was cheap game pass.Now game pass isn't cheap, PS+ has improved massively, and it's soared in price. Literally no reason to buy one.
>>722200891Yeah, I mean it wasn't great but it had a few things going for it. plus like I said, plenty like me where your library was on 360 or xbox one, not to mention online friends. So I stuck with it.Now basically no great games, gamepass is worthless, and opening up exclusives elsewhere. Wish there was a transfer to ps5 option or even PC.Only digital games that haven't fucked me over are steam.
>>722201186>Wish there was a transfer to ps5 option or even PC.xbox play anywhere could have done this but was seriously underutilised, because barely any games are crossbuy. and besides, the windows store is a complete piece of shit and by far the worst launcher I have had the misfortune of using
>>722201556Also because play anywhere barely matters when the other "anywhere" in that equation is xbox
>>722201829What I mean is, it could have been a console -> PC migration path. Or it could have been used to make console + windows handheld a more compelling combo, similar to what Sony tried doing in the Vita days. Fuck, it could have been anything, if MS cared even a little bit.
>>722198989They specifically removed the ability to do this with this update for that exact reason.
>>722171379This. Had goypass for 3 years, played like 6 games, and that include shit like saarfield that ive dropped in less than 2h.Also most games come without dlc anyway, which basically makes them an crippled products.Also it made a mess on my root drive which annoyed me greatly.
I liked gamepass, but thats crazy pricing even for me. I play maybe 1 or 2 AAA games a quarter, might as well buy them by this point.
I'm a lifelong pirate so I'm never getting gamepass, but am I missing something here? Even if it costed maybe $60 a month it would still be worth it. For example if gamepass didn't exist and you were buying 1-2 games per month. That costs more than $60.I understand you're all trying to just push back on xbox and get a better deal though. I'll be called a shill here.
>>722192261>Games didn't go up 50%. Game pass did.they did in my country, polandnow new releases are around 90-100$, since they convert 80 euro to my currency for some reason
>>722202921>most games come without dlc anywayThat's because it's the only way for the games to make money. And for some reason subscription retards actually spend a lot more on dlc/mtx/cosmetics/battlepasses and shit. It's fucking idiotic. There are now games being built around the subscription model because of how braindead consumers are.
>got 1.5 years of game pass for free from giveaway :D
I get the idea behind these sub charges is>the people leaving will be offset by those who stay and pay morebut since they have over the years released stats saying that Gamepass users were great spenders on DLC and how often they like to use it to say "X game has engaged Y number of players", wouldn't you want to maintain a high number of subs by keeping them happy? Also the whole shtick is the convenience, is not like they are essential, with Netflix if you appeal to the normie who doesn't want to or cannot pirate, you got the exclusive factor, but here people can just say "oh is more convenient to just buy the games".>>722198667>GamePass hasn't changed their prices in a decade while everyone is tripling theirsAnon their last 2 price increase happened not even 1 year from one another, right after the Activision deal was done despite them saying they were not going to increase the prices as a result of said deal.
>>722164409I don't know what Sara brings to Xbox, everytime she talks is a bunch of platitude, like when she dodged questions about the closure of Tango Gameworks, or during the Xbox TGS (lousy) presentation.
>>722164859I am quite happy with the last month addition of Abiotic Factor, but shit son, that game is 27€ (now on Discount), I might have used it to recommend the service among other games, but now I think people might as well just buy it.
>>722162192>Retailers dont even sell xbox anymore because no one wants the console at those prices>So many people are cancelling their subscriptions the page is fucking crashingNot gonna lie /v/ross, it feels like the end is near, MS fucked up too fucking much
>>722162192Xboxbros won again lmao
>>722170963Was expecting him to crash into the WTC.
>>722171412Go on Reddit, the gamepass and xbox board and you will see most people angry at this decision, the subscription page was not working for a good chunk of the day, apparently because of all the people cancelling their sub.
>>722206208goodsony is next
>>722162192$360/yeargood goy
>>722203523That's most people. Consumer behaviour is just too different when it comes to gaming. People are willing to pay for 2-3 subscriptions when it comes to tv/movies because the perceived value is very high since they spend almost 200 hundred hours a month watching 100+ different properties. With video games it's like 3-4 properties over 40h or so. And it fits since 40% of console and PC gamers spend less than 5 hours a week gaming.So the question then becomes how MS intends to ever make money considering how Netflix wasn't even profitable until recently, how many billions they were bleeding and how much more expensive video games are.
>>722198989Based knower. I knew they would catch on eventually….
>>722169631It's serious. Did you know tariffs are going to being in $17 trillion this year? Shitholes paying them must be seething at the cost
>>722207513And since Microsoft has all but completely abandoned the first party market they're entirely dependent on games people give a fuck about coming out consistently enough from other studios that consumers would want to pay a sub to play, but as it is "good" AAA games only come out maybe two or three times a year, the rest being indies that often aren't even on gamepass or consoles so why would anyone want to spend almost $400 a year when they're only playing the equivalent of half that in games they could actually buy and own instead.
>>722181270>I play every game on gamepass
