Never have I went from excited for a game to instantly apathetic towards it
wtf is that reallooks emptier than nu-zelda and that was empty galore
>>722167150>>722167282>GameCube snoy is still seething after being obliterated in xer last thread
Honestly, I was never that excited to begin with. If it was a decade ago I would have been hyped, now I'm just completely uninterested. Just give me a remake of Prime 2 and 3 and I'll be happy, even if 3 was disappointing too it was still metroid prime. I can wait to get it second hand on sale in the future anyways.
>FPS sections look good>bike looks like dogshitIt will be incredibly adequate. Nothing spectacular, just a decent game with a bike-shaped elephant in the room at all times. It will not be remembered fondly by most but there will be contrarians on either side who laud it as either a cult classic or a monumental, franchise-ending flop. The mere implication of open world slop will ensure its success with the average tendie normalfag, so Metroid will persist in a sort of half-life with a decent 2D game once or twice a decade and yet more dogshit 3D spinoffs every other year. Prime as you knew it is over, but it was over 20 years ago so who’s really mourning it anyway?I don’t really hate the idea of the bike actually, but the execution and the implication of what it means for the game’s sense of progression are grim indeed.
it's gonna be kino and /v/ is gonna cope and seethe for years just like with botw.
>>722167385>>722167652Hi desperate samefag bump GameCube snoy!
>>722167652>fps sections look good; bike sections look like dogshit That trailer is so fucked up. You can literally watch in real time as she gets off the bike and it goes from looking like a spinoff to a pretty good-looking Prime game. This shit needs to cook for another year.
>>722167806Don't even know what you're talking about you mentally ill brainrotted moron
bro we are not even ten posts in can you not shitpost the thread to death already you fucking faggot?
>>722167150There will be a dedicated Nintendo Direct for it later this month that should get you excited again
>>722167897Nice edit, Eric.
>eermmm people didn't like Metroid going first person in 2001 this is totally the same thing!The difference is, besides Golden Eye Nintendo never handled a FPS Adventure like Prime so people were right to be hesitant We've had an entire decade of slop open world from Zelda, Mario, Pokemon, Xenoblade, etcWe know what to expect with this open world dogshit
>>722167150i seriously hope this is only one of the areas of the game where is made for the bike system and not the entire game
>>722167385What's crazy is that they want gamers to get excited for this new Metroid Prime game without even letting them replay MP2 and MP3 without a Wii. At least give us the old games so we have a reason to want to play the new one...
>>722167972source?
>>722167385There will never be another game as good as Echoes, I’d rather play a remaster of that than Beyond DESU
>>722168113The area with the snow wolves looked like a big barren open space too so sadly I don't think so
>>722168187Nintendo just makes no fucking sense. They put out a positively received Prime remake that looks really good but still plays like the prime we all remember. It's a decent success, but then there's never a followup. They just sit on this massive library of older games that they could easily just open up a new studio that is tasked with remastering them for modern consoles, sell them again and make millions but they don't do it. I just don't understand this stupid company. They always do things so piecemeal.
>>722167150Open world slop aside, I think the bike bugs me the most because it’s a fucking BIKE. Give her a podracer or some hover vehicle, it would fit with the setting more. I’m half convinced it’s specifically a wheeled bike so she can eventually be sent to Mario Kart like Link was. It might be a decent game after all, but it’s just been so fucking long I no longer care. Prime was always a lukewarm version of Metroid for me and this being stuck in dev hell and then falling for the open world meme does not exactly inspire confidence in it.
i just want a sequel to dread
>>722167150>even metroid has to be open world slop nowSigh.
The bike didn't fit LinkIt doesn't fit SamusStop trying the Bike shit
>>722168696Please stop posting bait, thanks
>>722168696Allegedly Mercury Stream is already working on it, we’ll probably see it next year or in 2027.
>>722167150Why would a woman who can run at the speed of sound, and has a spaceship, need a motorcycle?...
just ignore it
>>722167150looks new and innovative to me.
>>722167874My secret cope is that Tanabe’s time travel autism from super early in development carried all the way through to the final build and the desert will actually change throughout the game. It might even be kino. Realistically it will just be an empty shithole tho.
>>722167352>>722167652wtf is a gamecube snoy
Why are so many modern Nintendo fans so horribly mentally ill? Is it a case of more "normal" people being chased off by the low quality products and anti-consumer practices, or is it just the 'tism?
>>722167282BOTW and TOTK are better than garbage like twilight princess
>>722167150The bike looks so fucking stupid, just from a design standpoint. That thing would be so easy to high-center on a rock, it’s too long.
>>722169172Gamecube trannies are the most mentally ill nintendo fanbase
>>722169127Snoys like to worship the GameCube and flop era Nintendo for the sake being contrarian toward the Switch. They're now pretending like the original Prime games were masterpieces because they're afraid Prime 4 is going to outsell them.
>>722169172They’re the same breed of dead-end autist as Disney adults. It’s a cult. It’s not enough to just have a harmless hobby, you have to make it your entire identity.
>>722169294Being you every day of your life must be a wild ride
>>722167150>>722167282>>722169172>t.
>>722169294The train of logic required to reach this conclusion is so insane I have to assume this is bait
>>722169172it’s just the tism, paired with the loss of the IP counter and the ease with which you can samefag a thread to death being a siren call to the worst schizos you can imagine.
>>722169331Nice projection, Eric.
>>722167150Never was into these metroid games, but this looks kinda fun. Might actually pirate and emulate once it's out. Thanks for making me aware of this vidya, OP.
This thread was made by a snoy named Eric. He's been spamming /v/ with anti-Nintendo pedaling for a good decade, he used to go by GreatnessAwaits and he's a villain in Famitsu threads because they're a weekly humiliation ritual and he reports them over and over for calling him out or for spreading facts he thinks needs to be hidden from /v/ (namely sales of Nintendo hardware and software compared to PlayStation and Steam)If you see posts saying GameCube games are better than Switch games, it's Eric. If you see the same posts saying Sonic CrossWorlds is better than Mario Kart, it's Eric. If you see the same anti-Nintendo threads popping up over and over, it's Eric. If you see someone denying the existence of Eric and calling him a made-up boogeyman, it's Eric. If you see someone unironically using terms like Shitch Poo and tendies and making hyperbolic statements, it's Eric. If you see a red OP image with a Nintendo-related thing, asking some dumb open question, it's Eric. If you see the same repeated lines over and over again, it's Eric samefagging. If you see a massive wall of replies to one post, it's Eric samefagging himself, they'll all be a minute apart. He's always resetting his router and ban evading, flooding the catalog, and he's got at least a few gigabytes of CP to end any thread that isn't going his way.He's also a massive OoT fanboy that was so buckbroken by BotW's critical success that he's determined to make it the most despised game in history, he wants to change the narrative and erase the perceived damage against him.
>>722167806Something he doesn’t like apparently.
Switch fans are false Nintendo fans, they only like when Nintendo makes something popular and easily digestible.
>ignore it>it either samefags or shitposts into the void anyway Time to update my filters.
>>722169270True, just look at Paper Mario: TTYDfags
>>722169570>If you see posts saying GameCube games are better than Switch games, it's EricThis Eric guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about. Why should I not listen to him, again?
>>722169570>tendiesNice try, Eric.
>>722169026Cough
>>722169428Hiroshimoot is the worst thing to happen to 4chan. Fuck that stupid retard.
Eric got me...I was convinced of the superiority of the switch but ever since he started posting these threads I've been wondering... is it all a lie?Was the switch worse than the gamecube and the sonies all along?Fuck...
>>722169701>cubie delusionIt's the complete opposite way around and you know it. Gamecube fanboys are just snoys or former Nintendo fans that betrayed Nintendo. Your behavior shows it.
>>722167150When are they going to just stop shoving "open world" into their dying franchises and calling it a day? What's next, open world Kirby?
>>722168113you're going to get Metroid: Arkham Knight
>>722170098>former Nintendo fans that betrayed NintendoHow does a fan betray a company? By not purchasing low quality slop in between good releases?
>>722167150every single thing that is famous IP is guaranteed to suck now - did you guys see valheim got picked up by playstation for it's 1.0 release just like Hades 2 did? Sony can see the writing on the wall that big studios are garbage tier
>>722169570Eeic doesnt exist, Schizo.
you know it’s samefagging because no one is actually retarded enough to reply to its bait
>>722167150Wouldn't it have been cooler to have the suit convert into the motorcycle like a transformer?
>>722170323>>722170326It's the same bot that plagues the Tears of the Kingdom threadsJust report and move on
I think I actually miss ACfag. Quick, someone start posting softcore zero suit smut, he’ll set this thread straight.
>>722170545>>722170501
>>722170501>>they'll all be a minute apart>02:35>03:22>03:24
>>722167150>eric>ACfagNintendo fans are literally schizophrenic and haunted by boogeymen
>>722167150I wouldn't say I was excited to begin with, but I'm definitely 20x more apathetic than I was.
>>722167150>Never have I went from excited for a game to instantly apathetic towards it
>>722170463no
>>722170859I'm hoping it's one big gag but people are pretty dumb
>>722170859>>722171027can’t say I’m confident this eric fag actually posts on /v/ and isn’t just some forced meme but ACfag was very much real at one point. He is long gone and it’s just a LARP by bored autists.
>>722170098>betrayedway to prove you just worship the name "Nintendo"
>>722169196Midna haters get the guillotine
>>722168893Why would a woman who can turn into a superfast ball need a motorcycle?
>>722171478Cubesnoys get the gullotine
>could have had speed booster in first person>get a stupid tron bike instead Disappointing.
>>722167150more like Amazon Prime
>>722171618twilight princess was a wii game tho
>>722167150Same dude. Oh well.I bought a Nintendo Switch to play this game 8 years ago and am now too thirty years old to care very much anymore.
>>722171792I will thank you not to blaspeheme on my computer screen, sirTwilight Princess was a gamecube game through and through
Why did these fuckers think I wanted to ride a BIKE what the hell are these fools smokingFuck me, it looks like a Halo 3 map
>>722171904that's like saying botw is a wiiu game
>>722171792The Wii was just 2 gamecubes duct taped together, Eric
>>722171943This shit wishes it was as soulful as Sandtrap.
>>722169701>easily digestibleYou mean actual quality products that sell well instead of broken outdated garbage and flops like Melee and Sunshine? Thanks for the confirmation, cubie.
>>722172009Is Eric in the room with us?>>722171549
Jesus.The shitposters are really going hard at it today.
That canned Akira slide animation looks so bad.
>/v/ermin pretending to hate pic related just to shit on nintendoyou niggers lost the plot
>>722167150That looks so fucking boring. Why did they do this? What the actual hell were they thinking?
>>722172495Money
Look, accept the fact we're going to shit on and scream about every single Nintendo game and you won't need to be angry all the time.
>>722168696I don't, I just wish they'd ditch mercury steam already. all their efforts suck, they're indie tier at best. legit would rather play the GBA games and hunters over their garbage
>>722174003No.Your getting cucked.
>>722174220Why is /v/ so desperate to claim that Dread is the worst game ever made?
>>722174901not the worst since fed force and other m exist but definitely a very retarded Metroid. from the garbage graphics, non-existent OST, absolutely retarded story, an "I am your FATHER" moment with a retard that somehow is behind everything and possibly the fugliest suit in the franchise. oh and they did nothing with the plotline about people pursuing Samus for destroying the SA-X
>>722168738this, keep things grounded for a character or shit gets goofy real fast. it's as stupid as giving Spider-Man and Superman vehicles when the niggers don't need them
>>722175062>oh and they did nothing with the plotline about people pursuing Samus for destroying the SA-XBecause that was taken care of in the backstory. Why are people so desperate for a game where Samus is a hunted outlaw murdering Galactic Federation people?
>>722167150wait that empty ass desert was for a metroid game?damn, that's fucking rough
>>722169294I cannot imagine being this autistic and far-gone enough to come up with this retarded online bullshit
>>722175202>fantastical superpowers are grounded>a vehicle is not
>4chansnoys still fuming about lingokinolol
>>722167969/v/ needs a boogeyman they know on a first name basis to deflect any criticism for literally any franchise evidently
>>722175341yes, superpowers are supposed to be grounded in the universe they're set. even spiderman mocks how stupid him getting a car was
>>722176073Does Peter swing through the city in his civilian guise to go to work, the store, visit Mary, etc?
>>722176269the car is driven by spiderman, not peter which is what makes it stupid. yes Peter has swung around NYC without his costume, hell during the stracinsky run he outright doesn't give a fuck and even fights villains without changing clothes
>>722176928The fuck is this art, why does he look like a grumpy version of the nerdy guy from Superman who works with Lois?
>>722167150I wasn't "excited" for Tears of the Kingdom but I still felt a steeper drop when they showed off Ultrahand. At least I'm still willing to see what this game's got.
>>722174220your ire is aimed at the wrong group, mercurysteam did a great job given their task. The problem is Sakamoto who forgot how to make an actual metroid game after super
>everything must be open world slop or live service garbagevideogames will never live up to their potential as an interactive storytelling medium because humans are simply too fucking retarded to properly take advantage of them.
>>722167150Why is Retro doing this to us, bros
>>722179394They hate us
>>722167150FYI the reason that development was scrapped and started over was to change course from a traditional metroid game to open world. After botw sold so well nintendo seems to have decided every game must be open world, even fucking mario kart.
>>722180504I believe it
>>722180235What the fuck did I ever do to these guys other than rent and buy their games and generate positive word of mouth for them
The Retro who made Prime 1-3 is long gone. They've been making 2D Donkeyslop for much longer and haven't even made a new game in 11 years. Accept that it's over.
>>722181295You Existed
>>722167352Didn't I already tell you that calling someone a GameCube snoy is fucking stupid? Snoys are sony fags. The GameCube was made by Nintendo. Retard.
>>722183307Stop replying to him bro
>1 was great>2 was OK>3 was bad>people are expecting 4 to be good because....?
>>7221847422 > 1
>>722184742>1 was great>2 was great>3 was slightly less greatThat said, I never needed a Prime 4. Fuck 3's secret ending.
>>722171976They did actually make TP for the Gamecube and then simply mirror it for the Wii though
>>722175259Because it would be a kino antihero arc.Team up with the space pirates (temporarily), killing the super bio war crime weapons the federation are remotely deploying to wipe out their current bastion, all while trying to find a way to depose the mastermind using the federation for enacting intergalactic war crimes.Maybe even get access to Chozo artifacts stolen ages ago by the Space pirates.Its got a great deal of potential.
>>722185790Why the fuck would she team up with the people who made her an orphan?
>>722186660They both have something to gain, "enemy of my current enemy is a friend" type shit.Also, she's more than genocided enough Space Pirates that any and all parties responsible + their children have all been murdered.
>>722167150Why did it have to be a crotch rocket? And in a desert, no less? That doesn't make any sense.
>>722168059>besides Golden EyeNintendo didn't make GoldeneEye 007. Just like they didn't make any Metroid Prime games with the exception of Hunters, and even that was the North American studio that usually makes Mario vs Donkey Kong games.
>>722185790>kino antihero arcStale capeshit arc you mean.
>>7221847422 was great
>>722187358Ahh, yes, you are truly correct, Metroid as a series needs to subvert your expectations more, Samus should be murdered and replaced by Black Samus instead.
>>7221847422 was great too. The ammo is annoying and the tone kinda weird and hunting for temple keys SUCKED DICK but the rest of the game was great
>but the FPS sections at least look goodI don't see where people are coming from here. It looks like it'll have all the same problems of the previous Prime games, including a painful lack of difficulty, like they're repeating the same mistakes without finding a way to fix them. Look at the tutorial for instance. It's slow and takes way too long to actually get into the meat and potatoes of the experience. It was cute back in the days of Prime 1, when Metroid never ventured into FPS territory, but we have almost 30 years of hindsight, they shouldn't be making the same mistakes.
>>722167150Fuck! Why did they make it open world? I didn't wait all these years just for some open world slop. My hype instantly evaporated the second I saw the bike and desert.
>>722170859The more I grow up the more I realize the ACfag was right, unironically
>>722193924This is the fastest tutorial since Ceres in super
>>722168623The way the bike animates is also retarded, the immediate 90 degree snap while losing no momentum looks amateur, it could have been solved with a hover vehicle but even then it's a weird, cartoony idea.
>>722195317What do you expect from a bunch Austin? western game designers from austin?
>>722194401Same
>>722194958https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rS75qx4JqnIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uwsfVAzFuY>almost three times as long, even when you include Super's intro cutsceneIt's like I'm really watching Uncharted!
>>722195562I'm not American so I have no idea what that means. Retro is a studio that crafted a meticulous rolling ball physics system to solve slow 3d puzzles and now they give you a bike and make it animate like shadow the hedgehog is driving it. The mentality behind these 2 elements is completely inverted
>>722196507The mentality is them wanting to cash in on the open world craze. Seems pretty straight forward. Donkey Kong did the same thing, and to be honest it's pretty mediocre.
>>722196661That doesn't force them to include a retarded Starfox bike. There is a million vehicular solutions that facilitate open world exploration while still retaining the prime feel.
>>722194794ACfag always had a point, it's just how incredibly pendantic and annoying he is about it.He is right in general that most games are better off relying less on cinematics and animation and more relying on gameplay. That doesn't mean a game automatically sucks if it has the former or that there isn't a place for narrative heavy games for different audiences. It is the worst when a gameplay heavy series gets diluted by cinematic bullshit though a-la Monster Hunter
>>722168696We're probably getting an HD remaster of Samus Returns, not from MercurySteam for Switch 1/Switch 2, a Super Metroid remake from Nintendo/MercurySteam for Switch 2, and in about two to three years later, a Metroid "6" from Nintendo/MercurySteam after.
>>722167150the lack of fanfare from nintendo about prime 4 has me worried. Dread got a lot random shit promoting it. but with prime 4 they not only are radio silent, but also decided to release the game on december which means they also have no confidence at any awards for it
>>722200434Yeah it's worrying
>>722200434>awardsAn early December release positions it for the Christmas season.
>everything using the BotW formula nowWhy?
Fuck Nintendo
>>722167150Same. I won't even play it.
>>722167150Nah you guys are retardedFor me it was the remote controlled missile slop. Once I saw that I instantly recognized how absolutely pace-killing that shit is going to be, as well as the type of obnoxious "puzzles" they're going to put in to force you to use it instead of actual combat or exploration.The motorcycle and open world slop is just the cherry on top
>>722207190>Tranime
>>722200434>awardsLiterally who fucking cares? They made the game the Christmas release.
This is literally the only game I've looked forward to in 3 years
>>722196507Austin is full of woke liberals almost just as bad as San Francisco.
>>722207905
Fuck doomers.We ride.
>>722199418>He is right in general that most games are better off relying less on cinematics and animation and more relying on gameplayWhich is why he got a special ROM of Super Metroid made for himself that removes the title screen, option screen, opening, elevator sequences, item get, most of the Mother Brain fight, and the ending.
>>722169113>Realistically it will just be an empty shithole thoImportant to remember that this is still a Switch 1 game. The desert being empty isn't a bug, it's a feature. Why they insisted on doing it when a more Prime 1/2 like experience that fits more comfortably on Switch 1 would've been way better is anyone's guess. The bike honestly feels like another Tanabe idea.
>>722200434This and waiting eight years for the damn thing have pretty much killed my interest in it.
>>722167150They NEED to fire whoever is marketing this game. Holy shit.
>>722167150Samus doesn't need a bike! She's already got a ground vehicle! It's called the morph ball!
I love how a board about video games fill of gamers is always so desperate for their hobby to fail and die, it's like listening to sports fans begging for their teams to all be slaughtered and every stadium on the planet be blown up.
>>722215325Revealing an extremely huge change three months before release that might fracture the fanbase and they saw nothing wrong with it Terrible
>>722215601You really can’t see why some Metroid fans might not want to play an open-world game with a motorcycle?
>>722169172Seperate nintendo fags from Metroid fags.Nintendo fags never played a prime/metroid game before 4 or dread and will buy them just to suck them off as the pinnacle of gaming.Prime-fags are worried that the game has empty wide open crap when metroid is generally smaller areas that are well made and unique.
>>722215732Is the entire game open world, like you claim Donkey Kong Bananza and Mario Odyssey are?
>>722215601To be fair, the Browns really do need to go.
>>722215968We’ve never spoken before, and I haven’t played Bananza and don’t consider Odyssey an open world game.Forgive me if I see a wide open world designed to be traversed by a gimmicky vehicle and throw the open world label at it.
>>722215693The gameplay reveal too. Nobody who is a diehard Metroid fan wanted to see Samus in a battlefield. They saved the most important part of Metroid - Samus exploring an unknown place - for the last 5 seconds of that trailer. This is going to flop because their marketers are morons.
>>722167150>hurr durr open world with 10 enemies in random locationsi fucking hate nu-tendo game design
>>722167652The fps sections looked horrible, watch the trailer they barely show 3 seconds of combat
>>722216130So it is open world in the same way the Ratchet & Clank and Jak & Daxter games are.
>>722215732I can, and I don't want to play open world Metroid either. However all the sections before and after the desert, including sections we've seen from other trailers and the Treehouse footage seem to suggest it's not open world. At the end of OP's webm, Samus even arrives in a cave that's clearly not open world. Do you think there's a chance the game is not actually open world?
They better let you ditch that bike for the Speed Booster.
>>722214840It's called Super Metroid Arcade. If you actually liked Metroid, you'd give it a try.
>>722216202>>722215325you're wrong, you're mistaking who the target audience is for these trailers. It's not core metroid fans, they are going to buy this basically no matter what like Dread. These trailers are aimed at the overwhelming casual audience of nintendo who don't play metroid/metroidvanias. They need to be tricked into playing good games, this is why the trailers are full of combat and big areas of nothing with the bike, casuals eat this up.
>>722216904Even arcade games have title screens, option screens, etc.
>>722217105Why did we start despising Dread after Beyond was announced?
>>722217124Still better than not trying.
>>722217181huh?
>>722217181I started despising it when the fans started using it in their console war shitposting. Before I considered it at least a 7/10, but then Dread fans shat on Silksong and other metroidvanias I liked, and it soured my enjoyment of the game.
>>722200434This is how they advertise their games, mostly. Look at how TOTK was advertised.
>>722217257I do the same thing, which is why I hate everything in existence.
>>722167150As some one who grew up with Halo not Metroid Prime this made me more excited for the gameI loved the levels in 1 and 3 where you have to drive a vehicle through an exploding space station
>>722217319Better to hate, then mindlessly consoom.
>>722217461Agreed, I don't pay for anything at all. Not food, not utilities, not internet, not gas, nothing.
I suffer more than any other human being on earth.
>>722217567there's 1 good star fox game, how is it one of your favorite IPs?
>>722217516This but unironically. Whatever I want, I synthesize out of thin air with my powerful telekinetic powers.
>>722217592I’d say two. I really liked that first game and 64.I just like it. I like the weird Thunderbirds thing they were going for in the first game.
>game comes out dec 04>i'm gonna wait til christmas to get itoh god the wait is gonna kill meI'm gonna have to avoid browsing /v/ as soon as copies are out in the wild
>>722217719> I really liked that first game and 64.SF64 is basically a remake of SNES but better
>>722218337I realize we have the same name, but we are allowed to have different opinions. I of course know this but still like both games.
>>722218210You will. /v/ is the most uncool about spoilers it’s ever been.
>>722167150What's the problem? Its Elden Ring but with less foliage.
>>722218549If you don't like movieshit, then spoilers shouldn't affect you.>oh my science! did someone spoil that Samus kills Sylux at the end? And she saves the world? Damnit now the whole game is ruined and I cannot enjoy it!
>>722218689Were you born this much of a faggot, or is what I’m reading the result of years of hard work?
>>7221847421 was fucking awesome2 was peak3 was good
>>722170596He's at it over in a digimon vs pokemon thread right this minute.
>>722218760If spoilers are enough to ruin a game for you, then that's unironically a skill issue.
>>722217181>we>startAlso personally, I don't despise dread, I just hate the Emi sections and Samus's characterization.
>>722168574>The area with the snow wolves looked like a big barren open space tooNo it didn't.
>claims to be apathetic>made a threadcurious
>>722218852I guess it’s a good thing I didn’t say that, Anonymous.
>>722218875What's wrong with them? EMMI are a much better SA-X and Samus is a badass like she's always been minus that unfortunate time on the BOTTLE Ship.
>>722219023Then you have nothing to worry about if you see spoilers.
>>722217319Same, I do it with everything. I started despising Indians when the jews started using them in their great replacement race war. Before I considered them at least a 7/10, but then panchagavya fans shat on my streets and other places I liked, and it soured my enjoyment of the race.
>>722219123But did it also make you seethingly angry at the roads themselves?
>>722219045>EMMI are idiots who are too easy to fool and bypass, and can't even leave their zones, so they're complete non-threats otherwise>"fighting" them is a glorified cutscene of you annihilating them with a beam weapon that's hilariously situational and disintegrates on use>Samus being a badass amounts to her being some marvel capeshit hero who does backflips and shows off and acts obnoxiousBeing "badass" was a mistake, and I blame Borderlands for popularizing it, in video games at least.
>>722219045>emmi is better than SA-X>Samus is a badass1. Lol no2. Samus is badass in a professional "i know what I'm doing and i've been doing it for a long time" mercenary style. How does she seem more mature in her younger Echoes portrayal than in Dread which is her oldest portrayal chronologically. I just really don't like it and Dread is one of my favorite 2D games.
>>722219045Samus has ALWAYS been a stoic with hints of her being cool. Dread feels like it's trying too hard.>"Wow Samus is so cool." vs "Wow they really want you to think Samus is cool."
>>722217378This is not going to be anything like that anonIf you played any Nintendo open world the past decade you'll immediately know what kind of shit this is gonna be sadly
>>722217592Them's fightin wordsStar Fox SNES is goodStar Fox 2 is good64 is one of the best games ever madeWe don't talk about AdventuresAssault had the right pieces there, it was a fun time We don't talk about CommandWe NEVER acknowledge the Wii-U game
>>722219268>EMMI are idiots who are too easy to fool and bypass, and can't even leave their zones, so they're complete non-threats otherwise>"fighting" them is a glorified cutscene of you annihilating them with a beam weapon that's hilariously situational and disintegrates on useThey're far more mobile and dangerous than the SA-X, their areas are much larger and more labyrinthine than the three places in Fusion you meet SA-X, they all have abilities that make it easier for them to catch you, and having to aim and shoot them isn't a cutscene.>Samus being a badass amounts to her being some marvel capeshit hero who does backflips and shows off and acts obnoxiousYeah, dodging enemy attacks is so fucking obnoxious, only trannies and liberals do such faggot sharts, Samus is utterly ruined forever.
>>722218896Anon you can see that shit right here mate
In preparation for Prime 4, I recently bought Metroid Prime 1, also because I love Super Metroid and was let down by Dread's negligence of exploration and atmosphere in favour of schmoovement and combat. I can safely say that Prime 1 is quite literally the worst of both worlds. Dogshit combat that gets forced down your throat constantly, dogshit world design that forces you to trek through the same content over and over again with your god awful movements because they ran out of time developing the game properly that is simply hard carried by the music, tons and tons of text to read to understand the world and story (wtf happened to environmental storytelling design?). Why tf do I need to scan a block and read my weapon log to understand which weapon I can use to destroy the block? I don't understand how people can say Super Metroid is one of the most overrated video games ever when this pile of trash exists. Super Metroid inspired an entire subgenre of video games, Metroid Prime's only legacy is its Metacritic score and being the best selling Metroid game until Dread. As a fan of the series who has played most of the 2D games, I wanted to be open-minded about the 3D games even though my impression while researching about them was that they were just walking simulators with occasional boss fights and tons of lore dump readings. I can't say I'm happy to be proven right. Prime 4 is looking like a joke too if their idea to fix the dogshit movement of the 3D games is via motorbike traversal in empty open zones. Wtf happened to the Speed Booster it makes literally zero fucking sense. But then again Nintendo has been shitting out asspulls since Fusion. What with the retarded Adam story (it only worked in the manga sorry), all the weird Metroid variants in the Prime series, the Federation being able to develop indestructible bots that surpasses the tech of "good Chozos" but not "bad Chozos" (Omega Cannon???), the entirety of Other M, Samus in Fed Force, etc.
>>722219781>Yeah, dodging enemy attacks is so fucking obnoxious, only trannies and liberals do such faggot sharts, Samus is utterly ruined forever.I'm not the one doing the dodging. The game is. It's all done in a stupid cinematic where it gives me pity by letting me do free damage for no cost.>They're far more mobile and dangerous than the SA-X,They have the awareness of a bokoblin from BOTW. Do you know how easy it is to get by them? Their "abilities" will surprise you maybe once, and then you just juke them like they're nothing.
>>722219356Lol yes. SA-X is only a threat in the jumpscare encounter in the jungle sector and its boss fight, the previous two times you have to purposefully get its attention for it to even notice you and in the restricted area it gets eaten by Metroids. To say nothing about how it gets bitch-slapped to death by the Omega Metroid.
>>722169309This is such bullshit kek. Aside from trannies in the modding, esports and speedrunning communities, I've never seen this tendie 'cult' that /v/ likes to screech about like the hysterical women.Before the Switch, Nintendo was just another company in the autistic console wars, with many claiming it was irrelevant and on the verge of bankruptcy during the Wii U days. Yet, something about the Switch's success just completely and utterly mindbroke you fags - basedjak-fuelled ravings of terminally online, norward-obsessed boomers that claim cultists will swallow anything Nintendo makes, yet at the same time claiming Nintendo is irrelevant because of Minecraft and Fortnite and Switch 2 is flopping (which is it?).To me, it reeks of 40 year old Sega and Sony autists that somehow can't fucking let go of their childhoods (also PC fags, but they've always been irrelevant) and HATE the fact that some Japanese toy company is thriving whilst the others are drowning in a sea of Jewish DEI sludge.
>>722219948What, you're incapable of doing wall-jumping and flips to avoid enemies? Some gamer you are.Teach me your secrets, then, because they can hear you moving from off-screen, are just as mobile as you, the Wave EMMI can see and shoot you through walls with a paralyzer, and most of them can go through the same tight spaces you can.
>>722219045For me, I was just annoyed that Sakamoto was having Samus get chased by an unstoppable force, again. I do admit, the EMMIs were the best implementation of it. I loved seeing Samus be a complete badass. She needed all of it after Other M. That game needed to be erased. I don't give a damn that they over did it. It was needed so some people could shut the hell up about that shitty game already and move the fuck on. Dread did its job perfectly.
>>722219981>basedjak-fuelled ravings of terminally online, norward-obsessed boomers that claim cultists will swallow anything Nintendo makes, yet at the same time claiming Nintendo is irrelevant because of Minecraft and Fortnite and Switch 2 is flopping (which is it?).Nintendo is whatever the person ranting wants it to be at whatever given moment it is, no matter how contradictory it is to what they wanted it to be in the next moment. If their enemy is all things at once, they can always be angry at it.
>>722220154>What, you're incapable of doing wall-jumping and flips to avoid enemies? I am perfectly capable of that, but I hate the parries for trivializing the whole concept and turning the game into a damn snoy movie.>Teach me your secrets, then, because they can hear you moving from off-screen, are just as mobile as you,Maybe have the most basic of situational awareness? If this is enough to filter gamers, then you guys wouldn't last a second playing something like I Wanna Be the Guy, or shmups like gradius on arcade mode. FFS the emmis can't even follow you through the game. It's like a horror game where the monster is marked clearly on the map, and 99% of the map is off limits to him.
>>722220259One time at a used game store, I overheard a guy I always thought was a /v/irgin ranting to the cashier about how “Nintendo is only still in business because their IPs are so popular”. I felt divinely favored, getting to see one of these people do this dance irl
>>722168696Dread was a good but flawed imitation of Super with the anime tropes amped up to eleven for the modern audience, and the sales were pathetic for how much marketing they put into the game which really shows that the pricing was the main factor holding it back massively because it didn't have the wow factor nor the mainstream prestige of Mario and Zelda to justify it. Even DK is not selling so well with the big price tag and it's clear that it's due to the same reasons. The fact that Metroid inspired an entire indie subgenre did it more harm that good business-wise imo, because people nowadays expect these games to be $30 - $40 max and Dread itself doesn't have the robust design ingenuity to make it near infinitely replayable and thus justifying its price tag like Super Metroid either. By doubling down on making Metroid more action-focused and doing such a shallow job of imitating Super's "invisible hand" design without designing a truly cohesive and smartly interconnected world, Dread is foolishly drawing more comparisons between itself and its significantly less expensive indie counterparts. And because the game doesn't bring any "new innovation" to the formula, it has honestly done more harm than good for the IP's prestige.I think it'll be wise for Nintendo and MS to sit down and rethink their approach. They need to really make Metroid feel like the inspirational and game-changing OG compared to other Metroidvanias, expanding on what Super did well which no other Metroid or Metroidvania have ever managed to do even up until now, and finding new ways to add onto it without relying on the new gimmicks introduced by entries from Fusion onwards. Also if they're not willing to make Metroid a budget IP, they should consider implementing a roguelike/randomizer mode for the infinite replayability that can satisfy people who aren't into speedrunning which is the majority of the buyer base.
>>722169570>He's also a massive OoT fanboyHe's not. The real Eric hated EVERYTHING made by Nintendo, from the NES to the Switch. And that included the N64 and GameCube.The real Eric likely doesn't even fucking care about Metroid, aside from salefagging. Your post is a lie and a falseflag.
>>722169570>making hyperbolic statementsthat's 4chan in general
>>722221920Calm down, Eric.
>>722218852I never said it ruins the game. But knowing about scenes ahead of time can lessen the impact they have. In some cases, trailer footage itself reveals too much. I really feel like kraid shouldn't have been shown in the leadup to dread.
>>722223274Never been a problem to me. If I see something cool before I'm supposed to see it, it becomes even more exciting.
>>722223538desu I was spoiled on adam secretly being raven beak from /v/ and I don't think my experience was improved by it.
>>722224775I was spoiled of the entire plot of Armored Core 6, days before I could even play it. Didn't make my experience worse.
Dark Samus will be the final boss
>>722224831I was spoiled on Silksong's true ending and I will seethe eternally because I guaruntee that that surprise from it happening would have hit real good.Just because you don't mind getting cucked out of pleasant surprises doesn't mean everyone else does.
>>722228132>getting cucked out of story shit in an interactive mediumoh no how horrible haha, my next playthrough of Uncharted is totally ruined haha
>>722228443>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T ENJOY A STORY IN A VIDEO GAMENigga what? Are you autistic?
>>722228502>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T ENJOY A STORY IN A VIDEO GAMEI mean, kinda yeah. Video game stories are just the flimsiest excuse to have the beep boops and bing bing wahoo happen. You're not getting War and Peace or Macbeth. Especially a Nintendo game, they always play out the same.
>>722228786Actual AC-fag response.
>>722228816>wow, Samus shot the bad guy and saved the day for the 20th time, Nintendo is truly innovating here with the storytelling
>>722228816Just because Armored Core is sparse on storytelling doesn't mean it doesn't have any.
>>722228974AC-fag is referencing the anon who thinks that every game ever needs to be an arcade game with little to no story or cutscenes at all and is a faggot about it.Not actual Armored Core fags.
>>722229036>>722228974>Nintendo fans used to hate any and all story based games, with accusations of being a snoy flying around rampant>but now story heavy games are good because...????Damn, when did this happen?
>>722228786Roger Ebert...
>Players control Samus Aran, who uses a new motorcycle and psychic powers on the planet Viewros>>motorcycle>>psychic powers>>Viewros>In January 2019, the Nintendo EPD general manager, Shinya Takahashi, announced that development had restarted under Retro Studios with Tanabe. Takahashi said the previous studio had not met Nintendo's standards>>had not met Nintendo's standards>>Nintendo's standards
>>722229167So far, what they've been selling as Metroid Prime 4 gameplay>Scan items by waiting for a bar to fill up and read long text to know how to progress >Psychic powers you can have to slowly control the trajectory of your beams so there is zero reflex and skills required for aiming even more than before>Use a dirt bike to traverse faster in empty open areas>Obtain power-ups and use psychic powers to OPEN DOORS>Also fight a pack of alien wolves(they don't even look super alien like the Etecoons and Chozos) in an empty snow dessert with dogshit (heh) visibility I'm not even sure if a dedicated Direct will save this trash. But it's not like 3D Metroid was ever good. Only 2 kinda worked because it was basically a first-person Zelda game and even then it still had retarded ammo count and dark world shit designs. Nintendo has zero confidence in this game as well as their current Switch 2 exclusives and it shows. Shadowdropped a dogshit trailer with zero hook or explanation in the middle of the Direct + having TWO (2) Directs just for Air Riders. They're not even confident in the Sakurai game kek.
>>722229989>>Scan items by waiting for a bar to fill up and read long text to know how to progressPrime staple desu I don't care if it looks retarded to the normies. The scan system is one of the best things because you can completely sidestep it if you want to except when it's needed to turn on terminals or doors.
>>722229989This, I honestly hope this shit splits the timeline in two.
>>722167150Yep, that was one of the most fast ways to unsell a game i have ever seen.
Arent you guys tired using slop for things you dont like?https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/slop-slang"Slop is the slang term used to describe content online that is considered low effort and only meant to barely entertain people who watch it."BotW is , by definition, not slop.
>>722230578>BOTW >low effort and only meant to barely entertainFits the bill to me.
>>722230578open world crap is the definition of slop
>>722167150>>722230526Praying to god this is just another case of nintendo's worst trailers ever.
>>722230341Scanning is one of the worst new additions to Metroid. Instead of designing intuitive environments and terrains that the player can figure out how to interact with on their own through visual cues, you must instead stop, press a button, wait for 2 seconds, and read some fucking text. If you don't remember what material each of your weapon can destroy, you have to open up your logbook and do more fucking reading. There's a reason why in 2D games and even other 3D games you don't need to scan shit to obtain reading materials but can instead find a collectible and do the reading optionally. The fact that you have to scan to turn on terminals and doors instead of solving puzzles to unlock them is fucking retarded as well. >>722230463I hope Prime 4 will kill the 3D spinoffs for good. Nintendo should only spend resources on 2D Metroid, which is where the franchise's legacy and prestige came from in the first place >>722221626 Stop with the half-baked dramatic stories trying to play catchup with indie Metroidvanias which are mostly soulslikes anyways, show the market why Metroid is the OG with such a legendary legacy. Hell if they want to make Metroid open-world, try that with the 2D series like how NEStroid was.
>>722214840And that's exacly what i'm saying. His idea is right but he has to puristically push it to its extreme.Like someone who acts like for food only the taste matters and would eat it out of a fucking trough
>>722215601This is because since 2015 this place has been constantly attracting politicfags that see 4chan as a safe haven for complaining about the world and they only post on /v/ because they have no other interests to relate to
>>722231305Maybe if people didn't defend objectively terrible segments of games, I wouldn't have to "puristically push it to its extreme". We literally have people in this very thread who will gladly argue against having a "skip intro" button in any potential Super Metroid remake or remaster, or hell even a port. And I'm not talking about the Ceres station, I mean the actual cutscene that's just exposition.All this talk of having options, and yet a basic one like the ability to skip a cutscene is seen as sacrilege. Zelda fans did the same thing with TOTK.
Honestly, I would be more apathetic, if I weren't so lethargic
