>gamepass cancellation overloadedoh no no no
Why isnt he fired?
>Nadella-sama, I don't feel so good.
>>722174628qrd?
>>722175182Xbox raises it's gamepass ultimate price to 30 bucks
>>722175368lol, rich people really live in a different economy
>>722174882He didn't make the call bozo, the suits told him to get them more money or THEN they would sack him.
>>722175368They are actually insane lol
xcucks got too cocky kek
>>722174628microsoft is looking for a sweet spot where they arent taking a massive loss but customers still are willing to pay for the subscription. i personally believe it just doesn't exist because whatever service they offer here (rent seeking middleman) isn't worth the operating costs
>>722174628>Most people canceling have already subscribed till next year at the very leastLmao, pointless virtue signaling
>>722174628ohh that explains why it took so long, lmaowhatever, I had my subscription for 3 years because I did that cheap giftcard thingy a while back? haven't even touched gamepass even at that discounted price, and I would have been better off just buying the minuscule amount of games I did actually play.
>>722174628Somehow after hundreds of years companies have never learned that price increase =/ more profits. There's a point at which they'd be profiting less because even with the price increase,much less people are going to be subscribing, offsetting the balance.How do you literally have the best deal in gaming then shoot yourself in the foot like this unbelievably retarded
>>722175820The sweet spot was $20. They fucked up big time.
>>722176456The sweetspot is 0 dollars and owning your games on your PS5/Switch/PC. Sorry the doctor hit your brain with a hammer as an infant if you believed renting was ever good.
>>722174628took me a few tries to cancel too. whole site is overloaded. good. fucking retards deserve to lose every customer they yave
>Our console sales have flat lined!>Jack up game pass!>What do you mean people are canceling!Do none of these corps realize that people are becoming more and more strapped for cash?
is it over
>>722174628placeholder loading is fucking cancer UI design
>>722176343>Somehow after hundreds of years companies have never learned that price increase =/ more profitsthis sort of makes sense when you have a physical product. harley davidson is staying alive despite their bikes being overpriced trash that almost no one wants to buy, because they have downsized their company and are making only as many as people want to buy. the company is staving off bankruptcy thanks to it. but with digital products, you pay basically all the costs to make the product upfront, but selling the product costs you basically nothing. gaben discovered that the less you charge for games, the more money you'll make, because you'll have reached way more people than you would have otherwise. now of course you're still going to have boomers in gaming company boardrooms who only understand physical products, so they suggest downsizing and price hikes as a way to improve profit margins, which obviously won't work but they'll try anyway
>>722176343>How do you literally have the best deal in gaming then shoot yourself in the foot like this unbelievably retardedIt's the same thing every time. You introduce a service with a low price so it attracts a lot of people. But the service is not sustainable, it costs too much. So you progressively increase the price of the subscription and hope people won't cancel their subscriptions and keep paying. It's the same fucking thing with the streaming services. At first, they had low prices and now it's so expensive it's not worth it.
>>722175870>not continuing to buy something at a higher price is virtue signalingBait, but kill yourself
>>722174628>>722174882>>722174957He just needed to make good games, was it too hard?
>>722177270a subscription model makes enshittification way more difficult because people can just leave as soon as the platform sucks and go somewhere else that hasn't enshittified yetthe only kind of platform that could brutally enshittify their products and still retain customers is something like steam, because people already have years worth of games and social presence there. and ironically they'd be the last platform to actually do it
Why are people finally cancelling goypass?
>>722177664truly a mystery. if only there were 6 threads up about it and dozens of news stories.
>>722177751Don't want to read some faggot's fluff piece. Just give me the facts.
>Hardware sales have cratered>Only thing keeping the Microsoft gaming division afloat is Gamepass>Price everyone out of Gamepass
>>722177804if only there were 6 threads up about it
>>722177974I pick this one bozo.
>>722177396>He just needed to make good games, was it too hard?“We’re not in the business of out-consoling Sony or out-consoling Nintendo. There isn’t really a great solution or win for us. I know that will upset a ton of people, but it’s just the truth of the matter. When you’re third place in the console marketplace and the top two players are as strong as they are and, in certain cases, have very discrete focus on doing deals and other things make being on Xbox hard as a team - that’s on us, not on anybody else...But we’re not in a position - and I see out there, I see commentary, that if you just build great games everything would turn around. It’s just not true that if we go off and build great games, all of the sudden you’re going to see console shares shift in some dramatic way. We lost the worst generation to lose in the Xbox One generation when everybody built their digital library of games.I see a lot of pundits out there that kinda want to go back to the time when we all had cartridges and discs and every new generation was a clean slate and you could switch the whole share. That’s just not the world that we are in today. There’s no world where Starfield is an 11/10 and people start selling their PS5s. That’s not gonna happen.” - Phil Spencer (Head of Microsoft Xbox Gaming, 10 years)
>>722175368Per month?
>>722174882He is super good at networking and knows everyone. He somehow managed to convince microsoft to keep the xbox when it never made any real money. to late
Gamepass could be saved by adding Nortubel
>>722178031*grabs your balls*I pick these ones ;)
>>722176343The answer is simple - Gamepass was unprofitable for MS. The Xbox brand has shrunk drastically and they don't have enough players to sub and pay for the service.They are in a lose/lose situation of keep the sub price low and continue to hemorrhage money, or raise the price and drive most people away.
"Sir, we're losing subscriptions at an alarming rate.""Just turn the page off, no-one will know."
>>722178240No homo
>>722178042Idun my wife.
I'm glad I was never interested in the service because watching it crash and burn is really funny from an outside perspective.
Realistically, what's next for Xbox? They keep shooting themselves in the foot over and over again seemingly on purpose, but it's not like they can just disappear and leave their player base to die. So then, what exactly is their strategy? Because at this rate, even if there is a next gen Xbox, it's going to cost $700-800 on launch and be DOA because nobody can afford it.
>>722178261they just take turns forcing the losses on the either customers, the developers and themselves. no matter how they balance it out, someone's getting fucked in the equation. the only way you can be a middleman like they want to be is if you have a good service and you run it very lean, like steam
>>722177270This. The whole thing is fake and gay to begin with, the idea is that you give people a good deal, and then you close the door behind them and they can't get out.In reality, of course, what actually happens is a company eats billions of dollars of losses until it can't anymore, and then it shitcans the product. I doubt they're actually having enough cancellations to threaten the service, sadly. It would be funny as shit if everyone stopped paying for it and they had to shut it down entirely because it wasn't bringing in anywhere near enough to justify the dev costs and exclusivity deals.
>>722178596>I doubt they're actually having enough cancellations to threaten the service, sadlythe service is already being threatened by being unprofitable, this is probably just going to make it even more unprofitable. trying to price hike a digital product is pretty retarded to begin with, idk if it has ever really worked out unless you have a massive, preferably captive audience (like netflix)
>>722178261fake news.msft is a public company. we can read msft's quarter releases. xbox revenue grew 13%.
>>722178349Cute!
>>722178769
>>722178510all their problems would g away if they just made really good games. but xbox like its daddy microsoft, is literally unable to release a quality product customers want.
>>722174628There’s no way they are releasing yet another shitbox next genDROP OUT OF THE CONSOLE RACE ALREADY NOBODY FUCKING LIKES YOU MICRO$HIT
>>722178769Isn't revenue before you count the expenses in? This means fuck all.
>>722177270I so miss when Netflix was the only streaming service that was a good price and had everything because at the time the content owners licensed their old shit cheap.But then once they all wanted to make more money themselves for their old shit it all went to hell.
Xbox Series X + 3 months of GamePass Ultimate at launch ($500 XSX + $180 for 3 years of XBL Gold + $1 upgrade):>$681Xbox Xbox Series X + 3 months of GamePass Ultimate now ($600 XSX + $1080 for 3 years of GamePass Ultimate):>$1680A near 2.5x increase in less than 5 years.
Wii U numbers for their next consoleThen, just another 3rd party publisher
>>722179047operating income (profit) with expenses subtracted is right there. it grew 34% and is at $3.19 billion.
>>722179261Next console?
>>722176456Yeah, i didn't mind paying it every month,,but for $30...I'm playing E33 and Oblivion Remake then dippingI didn't get $20 worth every month so yeah no. Xbox is going to milk dry a very small group of Xbox whales and make money on PS
>>722179023after 20 years of console wars, its really just the playstation slowly losing to PC and nintendo farming a small group of fanboys for money. funny to think that people thought PC would die because of piracy but in the end consoles ended up killing each other by being too retarded and greedy
>>722178846>revenueImpressive, very nice. Now lets see the operating income
>>722175368Thats just insane.
>>722179047>>722179406Xbox has never been profitable, they group it in with a bunch of other profitable shit while writing off the costs in other highly profitable divisions.
>>722177396Tbf, the Xbox studios couldn’t have had a better environment to make their games, they had (arguably too much) creative freedom and plenty of money and the option to delay their games
>>722177396He said that good games don't sell consoles.
>>722179406>it grew 34%kek read the chart. the operating income is in freefall after peaking.
>>722179457PC is going to die off because of Smartphones
>>722179458revenue rising. profits falling. the company is fucked
>>722177270This seem like a case of not my fucking problem then.Btw are american really allowed to sell for less than real value to fuck the other competitor ? holy fucking kek, so much for muh free market
>>722179679afaik microsoft is still massively profitable because of how inflated the costs in corpo america are. the average consumer just cant compete. if you really think about it, microsoft is essentially funded with taxpayer money, and their games division has been a public service
>>722175448>>722175678>>722178108>>722179472How fucking broke are you that $30/mo is too much for you? Do you even have a job? How much do you pay for your Internet or electricity
Laffer curve for subscription based slop enshittifying when?
>>722179983You mean things that are required to function day to day?
>>722177396It's hard to make good games when developers and "gamers" want movies instead
>>722179983gaming is a poor person hobby anonnowadays id rather drop 600 euros on airshit gear than give 2 cents to microsoft
damn....anyway here i am, a totally new costumer never heard ofthis dangfangled game pass(???)sure i'll try it out for a month if its only 1 (one) dollar
>>722179983How stupid are you or do you buy anything that you can afford regardless of the value proposition
>>722179983Its not worth 30.
>>722179606we compare last year's quarter to this years quarter. for this it's a 33% increase.we do not compare current quarter to previous. obv holiday session will be a peak.
>>722179457Nintendo and Sony are safe.Nintendo could rape my sister and i would still buy their games, i can’t live without new bing bing wahoo, unironically, i just don’t care, they have the strongest IPs and it’s not even close.Sony is making more money now with their digital store than during their peak PS2 era, they can keep trying to shit out GaaS as much as they want and it won’t change a thing, what they gain from Xbox becoming culturally irrelevant is more than what they lose by mismanaging their 1st party studios.Microsoft just has no place.
>>722180562>>722180221You're on console so you're already retarded. I just pirate everything on PC but you're not smart enough to do that. $30/mo is nothing when games cost $60-100. If you buy more than 3 games a year then the subscription is saving you money Like wtf if you're so broke then you should have bought a computer lmao
>>722180043Why have I never heard about this curve and why does every state keep ramping up taxes then?
>>722180832>I am a PC pirateThank you for informing everyone of your veganism. Have fun with those amazing console games on your $3000 PC! Hope none of your parts die out like your oxidizing Intel CPU!
>>722180832it's not worth 30. nobody is buying 4 Gamepass games a year.
>>722180832But I'm not on console?
>>722179983Hey, Phil. Thank you for coming to /v/Your service is not worth $30 per month
>>722177664PC gamepass consolidated into a lower tier Xbox pass and now the price shot up and you need the Ultimate pass to get what you used to. From what I understand anyway, I don't care enough to look into it but that's what I read.
>>722175368Jesus, lmao.
>>722174882Retarded white guys don't get fired in usa, regardless of how much damage they do
>>722177396An attention grabbing game nowadays either requires incredible luck or incredible marketing for a AAA release, which takes 5-8 fucking years to develop nowadays.It's literally impossible for them to rely on worthwhile games in the current climate.
>>722180962>Part dies out after X years>Use that $30 dollars you've been saving each month to buy a new oneMicrosoft hates this simple trick.
>>722180962Consoles are just locked down computers, anon Shalom
>>722179983>How fucking broke are you that $30/mo is too much for you?at that point just fucking buy the games and y'knowactually fucking own them
>>722179983How broke are you that you can't pay 90 dollars for a gallon of milk? Get a job commie.
>>722181081good news.PC Game Pass is only $16.49.
>>722181485bad news.it's still not worth it.
>>722181401Xbox owns COD and Fallout, they should be able to cook something up.
>>722174628I cancelled mine yesterday because I played everything I wanted. Was going to resub for Ninja Gaiden but not anymore.
>>722179983Sorry for your below average IQ.
>>722178042Inspirational
>>722181613good news.you can easily earn enough ms rewards per month to make pc game pass free.
>>722182140I easily earn enough money for that through work. I still wont sub.
>>722182140I have no idea what an MS reward is but it sounds gay as hell
>>722181846>I'm poor because I'm too smart for money LOOOOOOL
>>722182140They just disabled that so you can't use rewards on gamepass anymore
>>722182116Phil Spencer (CEO of Microsoft Gaming Xbox division, 10 years)
>>722183151Should have been fired ten years ago
>>722177632yeah but you make money on people being too lazy to unsub or keep up with the price hike
>>722183056you can still buy gift cards. obv rate is worse but $16.49 per month is achievable.
People were unironically paying monthly for this shit? I did the 1dollar sub a few times to demo new games.
>>722183021
Did people seriously think it would end any other way? GamePass was clearly always a loss leader and all the talk about how it was "profitable" was obviously bullshit, they just wanted to be the first Netflix of games to corner the market so they took a huge fucking financial hit hoping it would pop off, clearly it didn't so now they're putting the screws on users
>>722177632>enshittificationWill you faggots stop using this fucking word you heard for the first time today?
>>722183848>Did people seriously think it would end any other way?this, literally everyone shilling was constantly saying>you should really take advantage of this before microshit changes their mindswelp they changed their minds
>>722176753No, they don't, because certain people are fudging the numbers so they can skirt the fact that we are in a recession and rapidly approaching a depression
>>722183626Most people paid about 100 dollars for 3 years worth of Xbox live gold cards from Brazil and turkey and converted 1:1 to gamepass ultimate
>>722184006no *enshittifies you*
>>722183848FTC only allowed MS to buy AKB if MS wouldn't abuse its post-merger market power later.so yeah, a strong FTC could have stopped this.
>>722179823>microsoft is essentially funded with taxpayer money,What current multinational company isn't like that?People complain about capitalism, but that is just fucking corruption
>>722179983I can afford it, but $30 a month is more than I normally spend on videogames that I get to own permanently.
DO NOT UNREDEEM PLEASE TRUST THE TRUSTED SIR PHIL PLAN PLEASE DO NOT UNREDEEM MADAM /v/ PC PASS STILL AVAILABLE DO NOT UNREDEEM
>>722184301Didn't they violate every promise they made to the FTC in regards to the acquisition, like not firing anyone or increase prices, which they did shortly after.Was there ever any consequences?
>>722184092that hasn't been possible for over two years now
>>722184572>The FTC filed a complaint about layoffs in Microsoft Gaming on February 7, 2024,[36] and intended pricing changes to Xbox Game Pass on July 18.[37]>The Ninth Circuit ruled on May 7, 2025, to deny the FTC's request for an injunction.[38] With the denial, the FTC dropped the case on May 22, 2025.[39]
>30$ a month>360$ a yearThe xbox 360 is coming back! This is all just a stunt!
>>722185328So for the price of 5 games a year, you get thousands of gamesThe horror
>>722179983>hmm, it seems people are cancelling their subs, how can I prevent this?>I know! I'm going to gaslight them :DDDDnice going retard
>>722178042Why is fat spic included? He isn't tranny. Bazz is.
>Nintendo is becoming too much of a cult and people are slowly starting to notice>Sony has less and less games with each new console>Microsoft is starting to squeeze any money they canAre we witnessing the slow death of console gaming?
>>722179983The service isn't worth that much money.
>>722185408theres a fine line between shovelware and actual gameshttps://www.trueachievements.com/xbox-game-pass/games
>>722185439We are, yes. It's going to take another decade, though.
>>722174882>He is still making Microsoft moneyWhales will float Microsoft
>>722185328Holy shit I just checked my calculator. It’s true!!
AAA games are a dying raceindie games are fun, experimental and cheapgacha is f2p gooner core and making bankAAA is expensive, bloated and unoptimized slop
>>722185573rather late than never i'm still amazed people bought the PS5 just to play only what... goy of war? and final fantasy something?
>>722185408Except instead of actually owning games you want, you're renting a pile of shovelware
>>722185439No because Nintendo will always be there>but people are whining about Xdoesn't matter Nintendo has had people bitching about something they've done for literal decades now they aren't going anywhere they have the most successful most profitable ips that no one else has access to they're doing more than fine
>>722179983I barely buy the games I actually want, so 30€ a month is actually a lot for shit I might play once or twice.
>>722185760Western AAA games unironically give me the ick they always have this fucking like smog radiating off of them those photo realistic games with the ugly fucking faces all blend together and it looks so fucking unappealing who still plays AAA shit seriously
>>722184572No since America is ruled by corpo shill republicans now.
>>722185016>>722186160GREAT
I built new PC this May (9950x3d 5080rtx overkilled splurged on bonus) but I haven't buy any games for a while.
>>722177270This. Netflix is constantly raising prices, stealth moving me to a higher tier, sent me 2 nasty emails because my SIL lives in a different city and uses the account and threatens me with a forced upgrade to a family plan... I always just tell them to fuck themselves and downgrade to the cheapest plan and dare them to drive me away. These people are constant nags and shysters, but they're weak and scared. Once I cancelled and in the "why cancel?" field I wrote "too many niggers". Some weeks later my wife lamented that our kids miss some shitty Chinese kids show about animals growing up in a dystopian pod with no one but robots to look after them, so I resubbed on a new email for $7 or whatever introductory price, and sent them an email after the intro period threatening to cancel again and they gave me 3 months at the low price and I still allow SIL to watch her shit.
>>722184728I knew they stopped it but I got one year remaining on my Turkish gold keys. Once it's done I'm done with Xbox forever
>>722186160Which is a good thing, we're making bank.
>>722174628Game pass was great in late 24, early 25. Since then it’s been consistently worse, with almost nothing coming beyond october. Is there supposed to be a big showcase event soon? I was already kicking myself for not canceling a few months ago.
>>722185760I didn't really think about it until I realized all the GOTY contenders are all indie.
>>722186160If they didn't want to become modern serfs they shouldn't have voted for it
>>722186965Renting your games was never good. Freak.
>>722187089When you were paying 2 dollars a month for ultimate it was great now it's 36 fucking dollars a month it's a scam
>>722184530Yeah, the last 3 games I bought:>used copy of TotK for $30>Morrowind (again) from GoG for $5>Civ6 (it sucks) from Steam sale for $5That's over about 5 months. TES3 and TOTK are good shit. I'm ready to buy VTMB2 on launch. I bought Outpost Infinity Siege for $25 on sale, and that's it for the whole year. $65 spent plus a maybe another $60. No tier of game pass makes sense for me.
>>722186280>poorfag gpu>"overkilled"good morning, sar
>>722187089Third world roach
>>722184094NOOOOOOOO!!!
>>722179983Hmm, Micro$oft is so rich they will not complain about paying me 500$ a month to play their game, don't tell me they are such poorfag ?
>>722174882He's doing the exact thing he was hired to do, scuttle Xbox
I was going to potentially get it to see just how bad The Outer Worlds 2 was but I'll just pirate instead.
>>722185828People had no problem renting games for 3 days for 5 dollars 30 years ago
>>722190162Did you feel silly when you typed "30 years ago"? Because I felt silly reading it. 30 years ago we lived in a different world
>>722175368Holy fuck. They just skipped from $20 to $30, that's a 50% increase. You gotta boil the frog slowly and go to $22 or $25, not go straight to $30 like a retard. This seems like an intentionally shitty value proposition to make people buy more games.
>>722190162That's great. Build a time machine and give it to Phil to pitch Gaymepass in 1995.
>>722190162but OLD GOOD NEW BAD it was SOVL back then because reasons
>>72219016230 years ago my country was white, safe, and wealthy.I have no patience for anything these days.
>>722179983>puts xbox sub on same level as electricitymy lord
>>722174882>>722174628H1B ceo, preese understandu saar
>>722174882Because the next in line is some random black woman.
at this point you wonder if it's intentional sabotage
>>722176343Wow, anon. If you are so smart then why aren't you rich?
>>722181271Kill yourself.
>>722191260SaaaR?Why you no rich?$ then sir?!
722190162You can buy right now 30 games to own forever on Steam for less than 50 dollars. Or Playstation or Nintendo Switch. DRM Pass is not a good decision.
>>722179983Thats not the point retard. Imagine paying $360 a year for games not worth paying that amount. There's no way you can justify paying $1050 over the course of 3 years. There's no way you, me, or anyone else is paying that much. I dont even think I've spent even $360 on games over the past 3 years. Try some critical thinking instead of going "brokies ahaha"
>>722179983It's more about the price hike, I would seriously reconsider whether a service is worth paying for or not if suddenly costed 50% more per month.
>>722174628>rent $100/week worth of videos from blockbuster in the 90s>$30/month for games in 2025 is too much
>>722179983I play roughly 5 big games a year and a handful of indie games. If I budget 30 bucks a month into a game fund, then I could afford to buy these games outright and have money to spare if I wait for sales and use key sites like I already do. A 70 dollar game is only 52 dollars at launch if I buy from Fanatical, Green man gaming, or CDkeys. Two months subscription to gamepass or just buying the game that'd take two months to beat. The value proposition of gamepass is gone.
I have the PC subscription. It is way cheaper and I still get access to day 1 releases. Always felt worth it, every month they put something cool in, last month it was Silksong. Hopefully they won't touch that.
>>722175448But the economy is doing great? Look at the last quarter GDP growth.
>>722179983>it means you're poor if you don't blindly give your money away to multi billion dollar corporationshow brown or jewish are you?
>>722180951Because most people in government are economically illiterate morons, no matter the city, state or country. One retard at congress proposes raising tax X by 20% and the other 95% of his fellow congressmen are also retarded and greedy enough to only think "MORE MONEY!" instead of "how much tax is too much? won't this increase scare away businesses and thus 'LESS MONEY!' ?".
I cancelled mine and will just buy games on Steam instead. I was a fan of gamepass and at $20 it made sense but $30 makes no sense for me.
>>722192416saar please redeem the multi billion dollar company ! PLEASE SAAR
>>722192164>Hopefully they won't touch that.They will, you fool. What are you paying, like 12 dollars a month? Expect it to increase to 20 dollars.
>>72217536830 bucks per month? thats insane bro.
>>722192950The only reason the keep milking xbox users is because xbox absolutely requires a subscription for online play. As long as Steam is free, they can't raise PC Game Pass too much
Jej
>>722191908Dumb zoomie.
>>722175368And xcucks told me>gamepass is profitable!!
>>722193239>40 year old zoomer calling me a zoomer
>GamepassAs long as it >A) Requires a special fucking client to access the titles >B) doe NOT support DLC for the games so you end up buying DLC for games you don't own It will always be shit. Gamepass would be 99% improved by allowing it to sync with Steam and you have access to the titles under their temporary access license, but through Steam. Also, if you want people to subscribe make it so that it covers DLC as long as you keep subscribed. For fuck's sake>UBISOFT's SUBSCRIPTIONis somehow the least shitty one out there in that it >Covers every single game in their catalog past and present that is available online, including brand new shit >Gives you all the DLC including pre-order and Gold Ultimate big dick swinging edition stuff as long as you're subscribed It still should sync with Steam above but somehow they managed to get the rest correct before EA, Microsoft, and so many others. Ubi should not be leading the pack on non-shittiness but here we the fuck are and now gamepass is so much worse and asking for more money
The degradation of xbox as a brand over the past decade or so has been absolutely fascinating.I don’t think they’ve made a single good decision since the xbone came out. How is it possible to fumble at every turn when you have functionally infinite resources?
>>722192164>last month it was SilksongBuying Silksong DRM FREE off of GOG and owning it forever is cheaper than 1 month of gamepass
>>722191260A lot of people on here are actually well off. How else would be able to shitpost all day?
>>722193549>Buying Silksong DRM FREE off of GOGMight as well just pirate it. You don't own gog games.
>>722193076The cheapest subscription on Xbox for online play is still 10 dollars a month, and that's a price that will probably never change, but all the higher tiers that give access to the gamepass library will keep swelling in price. PC gamepass ultimate being $30 - $10 because of free online makes perfect sense to the suits at xbox. Expect to pay $20 by this time next year.
>>722180725>Nintendo could rape my sister and i would still buy their gamesJohn Nintendo here. Where is your sister at?
You’ll own less then a paltry sum, and be satiated.
>>722177396Not even that, he just needed to keep porting old xbox games.>>722177861It's the classic "charge our loyal fans out the ass instead of trying to bring in new ones" tactic.
the $30 plan just bundles the console online premium. if you're on pc it's $12, which still seems worth it if you play AAA slop.
>>722175368whats even the point of ultimate
>>722194503It does though, merging Live and GamePass is how they cooked the books and pretended GamePass was a huge success with rapid growth
Watching all these big corpos freak out and blaming everyone but themselves is hilarious. Just make good games and movies that people want to interact with. You can be as aggressive with ads and pricing as you want but no one's going to sell a shit product unless if it's Nintendo
>>722193407Being completely detached from financial success and failure means there's no evolutionary pressure to remove bad performers and bad players. We're seeing the results.
>>722193384>t.
>>722193407Backwards compatibility and that's basically it. Even then
>>722179983The classic argument for every black with no money who's convinced himself he's a board member of whatever company's mentally enslaved him
I'm legit positive that some homeless bum off the streets of California would have done a better job managing the brand than Phil Spencer, that black chick, or don mattrick. Kek
>>722193407GamePass was an excellent idea, the only problem was thinking day one releases on GamePass was at all feasible long term.
>>722175368>>722179983i literally forget it exists for about 3 months at a time then maybe am reminded by 1 or 2 games i might wanna play popping up. for that 90 bucks i could just buy the games or save my money and skip them.
>>722194960>Buys and sets up a shit ton of game studios>The only thing to show for it years later is some shitty zombie vampire game that wasn't even pre alpha
>>722190693Increase 50% lose 20%.30%more value from fewer customers, save money too
>>722179983this you, unc?
>>722174882Why? doubled revenue
>>722195169>i literally forget it existsCongratulations, you figured ou the business model of all subscription services
>>722195875If they'd paced themselves, then they would have only lost 10% or 15% in the long run.
>>722179983It's not worth working an hour every month for gamepass
>>722195875You pulled those percentages out of your ass. We still don't know how many subs were cancelled, and we won't really know until some time next year when all the 1 dollar subs finally time out and no one bothers re-upping their subscription. They're at like 30 million subs counting PC gamepass. Next year it might be 25 million subs or 20 million. At what point does Xbox just get rid of gamepass?
>>722195958based
>>722174628Bye-bye poorfags, you will not be missed. I'll be here gorging my refined vidya taste in these excellent games provided by Microsoft through the fairly priced Ultimate subscription. Paying less than 30$ is outright robbery for such a fantastic service.
I wonder if they haven't updated this end yet or if they're letting existing subs keep $12/month for the PC plan.
>>722196470Out of my ass? How dare you! I would never lie on the internet! Especially on an image board like this one!
You know what the gambit is here right?They're likely using data and stats on the volume of people who keep games installed and go back and play them, and think they can hold someone's saves and progress on games to ransom. "Oh you still want to play this game you love and constantly play? Well you'll pay another $120"The gambit is obviously going to implode but their whole aim is to maintain profit while normalising the higher price going forward.
>>722196470>At what point does Xbox just get rid of gamepass?I get the feeling xbox would stop publishing gamepass subscription numbers long before they actually can it. They'd move onto some new metric after MAU that includes all the hours Playstation players spend playing COD on the Sony platform, and somehow this number would be used to justify allowing gamepass to hemorhage money a little while longer.
>>722174628>We're gonna make a service cheaper than buying games>oh no people aren't buying games and we're losing money!>We're gonna make a service worse for the same price, but you can pay us more to get the old system>Everyone quitsHonestly they should get sued for this bullshit.
>>722195958>both apple music and spotifyhuh?
>>722180832I wrote a very long reply to your original post, but I realized I'm talking to a kid or a woman. So I'll just tell you to be quiet, bitch.
>>722174628Yeah. Took me at least 10 tries to unsub.You know you fucked up when your customers start accidentally ddos'ing you in an attempt to avoid giving you a single penny more.
>>722175368Is Microsoft trying to drive people away?
>>722196412How many hours every DAY do you spend playing video games? Put your money where your mouth is
>>722174882why he nips look offcenter
>>72219016230 years ago you could walk to the videoshop without getting shot by a nigger.
>>722179983I have a shitload of money and I'm still not paying it out of principle. I don't reward judaism.
>>722179983>Too much?For a person with a functioning brain, it is.
>>722179983I’m a PhD student I get 10k per semester.
I made $300 today just from interest on my cash/crypto and I still ain't paying for this shit.
>>722199003>10K per semesterThat's not bad. I'm planning on going for mine in about a year or two.
>>722199003>40k a year>bad
>>722175368wasn't it just $1?
>>722179983>How fucking broke are you that $30/mo is too much for you?Why do I get the feeling that's always poor people themselves that are saying this?
>>722174628Lol there go Ninja Gaiden's gamepads players. Just in time to stop people from playing the only Xbox title that actually looked good.
>>722179983when every service charges you $20-$30 a month it adds up very quickly.
>>722199336>He thinks there are 4 semesters
>>722199683>This.
>>722199336>>722199336There are only 2 semesters, and I’m not guaranteed a TA position. Summer is even less certain.And industry is horrible right now. Genuinely in my life I made more money in high school as a lifeguard. With the current administration funding I think things will get even worse.I fucking wish I made 40k a year. I’d be so flush.At least I get a bit of tax subsidized.
It would be cheaper to buy the games that now worth anything on gamepass per year now
>>722179983>Dude that's only 30 bucks a month.>Bro that's only 1 buck per day.>Mate that's NOT EVEN 5 pennies per hour>are you poor?
>>722199812>not guaranteed a TA positionYou weren't under a contract for you're entire tenure?
>>722199971There's only like 5 games per year that are even worth playing
>>722175368That's not the actual issue.The actual issue is that every other version except the ultimate now have nothing except shovelware, the ultimate edition is the only one with games people want to play
>>722194552Pretty sure the day one game pass releases are only for ultimate subscribers
>>722179983There's only a narrow price range where you can justify paying a subscription to rent games rather than just waiting for Steam sales.If they increase prices by 50% out of the blue, then many people are going to be re-evaluating their subs. There wouldn't have been nearly as much backlash if they just did the $1 annual increase that other companies do
>>722179983Shalom!
>>722179983How many different subscriptions have to add up before it's too much for you? If I've got more subs than I can afford then obviously the 30 fucking dollar one is first on the chopping block
>>722179983Fuck off Phil, not everyone makes 10M a year
My backlog is so big I can play for decades and not pay a single cent
>>722199336Tell me you live rent free with mommy without telling me
>Xbox 360 bucks
>>722200330Not him, but in my state, that's decent.
>>722179983When will you idiots learn it isn't a matter of not having the money, it's a matter of being unwilling to spend a frivolous amount of it on some bullshit? Do you enjoy being a whale?
>>722175448$30 a month is nothing, considering inflation that was like $5 in 1977
>>722200548stay poor
>>722192217sure, unless you buy things whose prices are going up, or are getting fucked by the shit job market. Rising prices and uncertain job prospects matter a lot more to the average consoomer than a stock market being held aloft by 7 tech companies coasting on AI hype.
>>722179406That doesn't say operating income just for gaypass, it looks like that 34% figure is for everything on that slide combined (Windows OEM and Devices, Xbox content and services, Search and news advertising)
>>722174628Ye im not cancelling cuz there is no way they wont revert the change to pricing by the time I wake up
>>722176573kek
I have a theory this is xbox's exit scam. Get the semi-intellectuals who've been doing gamepass to cancel, then make them rage buy a bunch of games thinking they beat the system. Then they are going to decide not to continue xbox.
>>722201929Yeah it feels like a controlled demolition for Xbox. Nadella really hates Xbox division I suppose.
>>722179983>xbot drone responsefaggot
