Do you think he’d be disappointed in the person he becomes?
>>722230920That's not him in those sequels. Anything beyond the 1st game isn't cannon
>>722230920Man I'd give anything to a real sequel to God of War 3, now that game was pure kino.
>>722230920...... yeahBut he was never the besr guy to begin withWe knew exactly how he was 2 hours into his initial adventure
>>722234761Greek tragedy, yoDamn shameCompelling as fuck, but a tragedy no matter how you look at it
>>722230920He became a better man thoughever
>>722234819But we never got the inbetweenWe were robbed of his journey afterwardsJust from here to there.....
>>722230920The guy murdered his own wife and daughter and his skin is permanently coated in their ashes and blood to remind him that he did it. He's already disappointed in what he is.
>>722234908Like it was nothingLike it never happenedJust poof and now he's here
>>722234945I'm sorry. I just can't play Ragnorak, amd i never will
>>722235014He was his own character, but you robbed him of it
>>722235050Cause what, YOU felt guilty? YOU felt bad?You didn't think of Kratos
>>722230920What, a man with a loving wife, and a son who he raises with love and affection, the complete opposite of the torture he experienced growing up? Did you faggots even play OG God of War? Kratos is fucking miserable every step of the way.
>>722230920No, he had already achieved his endless vengeance, it didn't stop the nightmares.It didn't make him whole.His rage subsided and he was left with nothing.He'd probably be encouraged that after all he suffered he was able to find some peace with a new family in a distant land.
>>722235102You just felt about yourselvesYou only thought about yourself
>>722234496man I miss when we didn't have movie gamesog GoW was so over the top, and perfectly in sync with the over the top gameplay where you're just going through hordes of enemies, made sense with the character and all, and it never took itself too seriouslynow games are ashamed of being videogames, they want to seem mature and deep, and mostly directed by failed cinema directors, so you have shit gameplay, shit characters, shit story under the guise of being 2deep4u
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhwdoyp4Ov4
>>722235139The God of War deserves more than that
Fell victim to typical nihilistic millennial writing.
>>722234496>that game was pure kinoI'd say GoW 2 was the best of the original trilogy. 3 had better graphics (obviously) but felt kinda disappointing otherwise after 2. 2 was a clear improvement on 1 though.
>>722230920>does every dirty and shi work for you>all he wants is to have the gods erase his most painful memories of killing his own wife and daughter, not even reviving them or for bullshit powers. Just delete some memories.>tells him to fuck off and keep sending unreasonable missions saying "really, this is the last time we promise" but never grants his wishWhy are greek gods such assholes?
>>722235661THIS2WasTheShit
>>722235840Everyone was against himEveryone hated himAmd with good reasonIt was a tragedyFucking Kratos fucked up real good
>>722235979And he even fucked over the Fates
>>722236018The man couldn't be stoppedHe got fucking everyoneGot them real fucking goodRight the fuck up there, right inside
Reminder that people are trying to rewrite history:1. Kratos was a well written character even in the original trilogy2. Everything he did in the greece saga, he owns it. It was not some mistake or childish behaviour. He revolted against the god because he saw how they work. They treat humans as insignificant pawns. Why would you care about morality when the gods themselves are controlling every single aspect of who gets to live or dies?
>>722236105Up the hoop and everything inbetweenMotherfucker was thourough
>>722236105He was the true rebel. Rebel against authority.Rebel against gods.Rebel against conditioning.Rebel against morality.
>>722236148ExactlyThere were no good guys in that sagaThey were all users and abusers, even Kratos himself
>>722230920The very first thing anyone sees him doing is trying to kill himself
>>722236225HOW COME NO ONE GETS THAT????
>>722236148>>722236187Was such a good gameTho i did miss some breakable wallsFOR MORE POWEŔRRRRRRR
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>>722236237I think people forget that
>>722230920>ATHENA ! YOU CONSPIRE AGAINST ME >;(
>>722230920not canongod of onions is r*ddit fanfic
>>722236237>>722236398Athena and Gaia tricked himBut they ALL used him and his misery to some degree
>>722236525But he always fell for it. But his vengence used him, too
>>722236567Fucking tragedy, manHoly fuckTHERE WERE NO GOOD GUYS
>>722230920He became a better man
>>722236604Yes, but Kratos should have been a better man.
>>722236604NOBODY IN THIS STORY WAS A GOOD PERSONmaybe Theseus
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>>722230920This game perfectly exemplifies the differences in social culture between Gen X and Gen Y. Gen X kratos was an edgy, unrepentant, nihilistic killing machine, perfect reflection to what Gen Xers considered cool. Now Gen Y on the other hand (Millennials), who love subverting expectations, made kratos into a fat, wholesome, overly emotional man baby, this deeply resonates with millennials because of they're all man children who refused to grow up. It's actually very interesting and you can see it in other older media that was taken over by millennials.
>>722230920There was CP left of this thread lmao.
>>722236849Wasn't my gen YMust be those gen y's (millenials) that you guys made upReal gen y's loved the complexities of the whole thingReal genny's saw it for what it was, a fucking greek tragedy, amd the gameplay qas white knuckle, controller warping awesomeness
>>722230920One day your king of the world, the next thing you know… you’re in front of a courthouse dancing on top of a car… trying to figure out what the fuck happened to you.That's why I think people should stop asking for reboots and remakes of their favorite videogames.
>>722237107Gen y was only 84-86. Like those mini gens you made up and then promptly forgot about when it was fucking conveniant
>>722237171See? Now they throw in michael jackson out of nowhere84 was the only gen Y
>>722236492This but unironically
>>722237214Everything afrer are these so called millenials they blame for everythingI'm hunkered down in 84 and you can't twist it up the way you doFuck youmfuck you and your bullshit
>>722237291Just like Athena and Gaia, trying to twist everything up for your own ends
>>722235257A large group of people that are not reproducing.What a bad way to go out dude. "Remember us. As simple an order as a king can give. Remember why we died. He did not wish tribute, nor song, nor monuments, nor poems of war and valor. His wish was simple: 'Remember us,' he said to me. That was his hope, should any free soul come across that place, in all the countless centuries yet to be. May all our voices whisper to you from the ageless stones: 'Go tell the Spartans, passerby, that here by Spartan law, we lie'". Kratos is supposed to be a Spartan.
>>722237139That picrel is depressing.
>>72223734984 is Gen Y, whatever after is your precious scapegoat; your precious millenials
>>722237476You all can go fuck yourselvesFuck youFuck you from 1984My sincerest fuck-a-you
>>722237534We're Gen YAnd we say fuck youFuckYou
/pol/fags pretending they played this series will never not be cringe
>>722237427He was destined to live that life.(These are not 3 different men)
>>722237573https://youtube.com/watch?v=WY6MuvRY6g0&list=RDWY6MuvRY6g0&start_radio=1&pp
>Atreus, my wife's son.....monogamy is an outdated, patriarchal practice that must be neglected and tossed into the dustbin of history alongside the nuclear family unit and Greece after my genocidal rampages. If your partner doesn't feel satisfied emotionally and sexually, you should encourage them to form bonds with other folks. Better men do not put chains on their partners. Better men practice ethical non-monogamy.
>>722237690Yeah, right?All of a sudden Kratos is like thatI'm never playing god of war againFuck that shitYou milenials ruined everythingInvasion of the bunny snatchers called it out before it was even a thing
>>722237637>muh /pol/ chuds ACK ACK ACK ACKdilate
>>722237952And that shit was in the fucking 90s
>>722238020I'm breaking my disc of gow Kratos deserved better
>>722237171>>722237291Millennials are 1981-1996, get over it, your generation sucks.
>>722230920Kratos in the old games was not fond of himself.
>>722238198Do you really want me to flex on you and post a pic of my ps2 copy of GOW 1 and 2? How about my PSP copies of Ghost Of Olympus? Maybe God of War 3 for the PS3? Yeah that's what I thought.
>>722238167You cant even get your years rightFuck you
>>722230920Absolutely
>>722230920He's been disappointed in himself ever since he killed his family.
>>722238370Done with this seriesFuck you, JaffeFuck you mileniallsJust fuck all of youFuck you from proper Gen Y
>>722238445And fuuuuccckkk you Santa Monica
>>722236492
>>7222356612 had fun gameplay but the story is nonsense
>>722238476If i could refund Bound, i wouldFuck you
>>722238696I want my fucking money back for thatGo to fucking hell and fucking burn
>>722238445Mental illness
>>722238781YeahCause you always try to make out that people are "crazy"What page in the playbook is that?
>>722238836Cause that's what you do? Right? Make people think they're crazy when you have no mkves to play?Fuck off with your milennial shitI'm Gen YFuckYou
>>722238918Post brown hand
>>722238918We had a nice discussionabout God of War before you came aroundWhy you gotta ruin that?What was the purpose?
>>722238976Lucky guess, lolFeather Indian, here
>>722230920Nu-Kratos is nothing more than fanfiction abomination. He'd be angry they ruined his image, but he'd know it's not the person.
>>722239109https://youtube.com/watch?v=X9wSEXyoRbw&list=RDX9wSEXyoRbw&start_radio=1&ppTho i'm pretty far removed from the culture, sad to say, but some people of my tribe like me cause i can do things others can't
>>722230920he tried killing himself in the first game and tried killing himself again at the end of gow3 when he killed zeus and realised what chaos he made to the greek world.
>>722238198>>722238290>>722238370BASED
>>722239283I wanna get into it, but it feels weird cause i didn't grow up with it, y'know?Outsider there, outsider abroad....... got my feet in 3 different worlds
>>722239378YeahDone with that shitFuckkkkkkkkkkkThat
>>722239379I don't know what i am....I'm just meAlways wasAlways will beJustMe
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS
>>722239480https://youtube.com/watch?v=r-wMNAbkJLU&list=RDr-wMNAbkJLU&start_radio=1&pp
>>722239289>realised what chaos he made to the greek worldNice way to expose yourself as a poser. That's not why he tried to kill himself. Same goes for the first time he tried to kill himself.
>>722239480You will never be white,j jeet.>Lucky guessI could sense the inferiority complex a mile away, that's how I knew, a hall mark characteristic you "people"posses.
>>722239647OhIt's youI've seen you aroundHow ya been?
>>722239804You speak in such a way, i just know it's you4chan wouldn't be 4chan without you
>>722236849>Gen X kratos was an edgy, unrepentant, nihilistic killing machine, perfect reflection to what Gen Xers considered cool. Now Gen Y on the other hand (Millennials), who love subverting expectations, made kratos into a fat, wholesome, overly emotional man babyI hate nu-kratost. millennial
>>722239571okay my bad he killed himself because zeus death did not fill the void of his dead family. I played all 3 gow games kys
too lazy to dig my PS2 copies out the closest so I'll use this as proofI hate God of War 2018 and Ragnarok so much. so, so muchi have to go to work but one thing I'll say>anthony burch
>>722239856And i feel like you're carrying on what 4chan used to beKeep it up, man. For real
>>722240002I was born with a guitly conscience, so i always had a hard time being like that. But glad you've taken up the mantle
>>722239963Be the better man
>>722239571>That's not why he tried to kill himselfIt partly is. Kratos felt no relief from killing Zeus, which meant he had little to live for, but he also purposely released hope to humanity instead of giving it to Athena. The way Kratos talks after Zeus' death shows that he has a level of remorse. He even says that Pandora died for nothing because of his need for vengeance. A certain sense of wanting redemption has been part of his character since 1
>>722238687Yeah time travel crap tends to do that to stories, but storywise 1 is probably the best anyway, better than 3 too. But story was never the most important thing in these games to me, and I preferred the environments/locales in 2 to those of 3 (and 1).IIRC 3 also went for a more muted color palette than 1 and 2, and it had worse frame rate than 2 (and 1) which ran at an almost constant 60fp, or maybe I'm just confusing it with Ascension which had a 30fps cap.
>>722230920He'd probably be befuddled at HOW he manages to stop being a beast of vengeance, and likely unbelieving that his path somehow doesnt end with the death of all greek gods. But at his core Kratos wanted peace of mind and it couldnt come from just dying (he tried it and the few times he managed to kill himself, it only meant more torture in the afterlife), is why he lets rage and revenge consume him, and why pandora's words and attitude resonate to his human and fatherly side. I know you want to meme about modern gow, but in all honesty, kratos would be either ok with it, or simply not believe that life can go on like that, and assume it's a trick from zoooos.
>>722230920My younger self's opinion of me could only be worth so much since he lacks my experience.
How did we go from the Zeus duel in 3 to whatever the fuck is going on with the norse fags?
>>722240492>and it couldnt come from just dying (he tried it and the few times he managed to kill himself, it only meant more torture in the afterlife)Kratos has never actually managed to commit suicide
>>722240492I just hate how it went from this to this.All of a sudden he is the way he is cause some time skip time walled bullshit.Oh, now he's a big softieWell wtf happened in between?He got inbtween some frost giant, (bit not giant, cause other worldly chicks are always human proportion) poon?I just hate fuckimg time skips. Just smakcs of lazinessThe FUCKING GOD OF FUCKING WAR deserved better than to be some bitch stepdad
>>722240937And how come hos new wife wasn't a FUCKING GIANTFROSTGIANTwe see the gigantic giants at the end, but the one frost giant chick is a fucking humanBullShitFuckThat
>>722240937True, but God of War 2018 didn't really portray Kratos as a softie. Most of that comes from Ragnarok
>>722238290Fuck you i was born in 96, Why do you fags think we sporadically developed consciousness in 2010? We literally remember the entire decade of 2000-2010. Millenial games like psychonauts, kingdom hearts 1-2, sonic adventure 2, Mid 2000's Toonami were literally made for and marketed to us. Minecraft and fortnite were for people born in the 2000's.
>>722241018So what, all the males are larger than fucking life, but the females are brittle humans?
>>722234931>>722235113>>722235132>>722240492So based on these actual understandings of kratos from people who clearly played the games, would rejecting the "be a better man" thing mean staying a bitter raging shell because you can never move past that initial loss and never again having a family or peace or something resembling happiness again? Very manly if so.
>>722237659Sauce on the first pic fampai
>>722241062No, he's a big softieRemember how the citizens were just in the way, or were srepping blocks for him to go forward?Prerty fucking convenient that there were no citizens in 2018 for him to mow throughHell, there were no people at all in 2018
>>722241227Just beasts, minions and Valkyries
>>722241227>Hell, there were no people at all in 2018There were. You kill some humans enemies in the opening hours of the game. And again, lack of citizens to kill doesn't mean his character was a softie in 2018
>>722241284And the Valkryies were optionalI beat all them hoesThe fire and head Valkyrie were the hardest
>>722241361When? Cause i dont remeber actual peopleAnd i can't play it again cause i broke my disc out of fucking rageAltho, i was never gonna play it again
>buy a second hand ps4 for rdr2 a couple of months before release>also buy a used copy of GoW>try it for a couple of hours>GoW3 was free on the pspass or whatever it's called>play that insteadno regrets
>>722241447https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRMX9Rzq1AAAt 1:20:00
>>722241361>>722241447Either way, they skipped like, 100 years or more sp they could make him soft amd voiced by fucking Tilk
>>722241657I don't think he's soft in 2018. He says that Atreus has to close his heart to the suffering of his enemies, after all. He's more soft than he was in the OT, but that still doesn't make him a straight up softie. Ragnarok REALLY made him soft
>>722241631Ohhhh, forgot about them foolsBut that's not a city full of people like in the Greece sagaWhatVikings were just those four guys?
>>722241138No, you retard. Being a better man would be accepting that while he did let his rage get the better of him his cause was ultimately just and he did the right thing. The Olympians deserved what happened to them. Kratos was a victim of their pettiness and plotting since he was a child. Kratos' family were victims of the gods' pettiness and plotting. Kratos' country, and all of Greece, were victims of the gods pettiness and plotting.Kratos, for all his anger and rage, was justified in his actions against the Olympians. The Olympians needed to be destroyed. They were petty, cruel, traitorous tyrants, who focused solely on satisfying their egos at the expense of everyone else, including other gods. The Olympians were like that long before Kratos opened Pandora's Box, which is the shitty excuse that traitorous cunt Athena provided by the way and everyone just believed blindly. nu-Kratos is not a better man. He bottled up his anger, and decided the problem was fighting the gods just because tragic things happened after their deaths. nu-Kratos' conception of a better man is to not stand against tyranny because bad things might happen, unless absolutely forced. He didn't become a better man, he became a weaker and worse man. All the forces of evil require is for good men to do nothing. Original Kratos might have been an angry bastard who did bad things, but fundamentally he was a good man driven to madness by evil, and yet he still held onto a core of seeking justice for not just himself, but for an entire people wronged by the gods. And that Greece suffered chaos in the death of the gods' deaths was not an excuse to let the gods live, because with the gods alive Greece was just a pleasant garden with open sewer pipes and mutilated bodies hidden behind the hedges and topiary where people could pretend the tragedy was not already there among them.
>>722241858Yeah, it's pretty gay. Killing innocents were removed for story reasons, same with the rest of the game. 2018 doesn't have the bombastic opening level of the original games, and they removed that tradition just because it didn't fit with the story. That a GoW game should sacrifice gameplay for the sake of a fucking story is laughable, and story isn't an excuse to open a GoW game with Kratos cutting down a tree
>>722241138He never says "be a better man", he says some version of "we must be better" to:>ArtreusTelling Artreus that they are both gods and they have a responsibility to be better and not be evil gods.>BaldurHe warns Baldur that continuing down his path of revenge won't give him any peace, when Baldur doesn't heed the warning, Kratos tells him it again as more of a message to himself before snapping Baldur's neck.>ThorHe uses another version of the line to talk Thor down (after fighting), this time it means we must be better fathers to our children who need us more than they need our enemies dead. Thor is able to finally listen to reason because he cares for his daughter more than revenge.Finally, he doe NOT say the line to himself at the end of Vahalla. Instead he realizes that he's always been unfairly judged, and this time it's current Kratos judging his young self too harshly. He realizes that he was always more than what his enemies thought of him, then he finally realizes - not forgiveness - but the willingness to give himself a second chance.
>>722241850Ok, all the more reason not to play that bullshitAmd now he's going to Egypt in the next phase?It was all laid out 20 years ago. Barlog said he wanted Kratos tp go through all the popular pantheons, but they spent too much time in Greece and now, 15 ish years later Kratos is finally doing it? Wjat's he gonna do in Egypt? Fucking love them to death? Is it gonna be a VN with romance options?This series lost ot's way. I can't support it like i used to. I got all the old games within the launch month (minus psp games cause i didnt have one) bit got the ps3 versions of most of them minus asce sionI just can't take this series seriously anymore like i used toKratos is pretty much immortal, but acting like he's a 50 year old man with regretsSince when does the fucking God of War have regrets? He's War incarnate. The living being of war. Let humans have regrets, the way they tend do. He's a fucking God
>>722242005>The Olympians were like that long before Kratos opened Pandora's Box, which is the shitty excuse that traitorous cunt Athena provided by the way and everyone just believed blindly.It is objectively true in the story that the gods were infected with the Great War's evils after Kratos opened the box. We straight up see Zeus puking it out before Kratos rearranges his face>Original Kratos might have been an angry bastard who did bad things, but fundamentally he was a good man driven to madness by evil, and yet he still held onto a core of seeking justice for not just himself, but for an entire people wronged by the godsKratos didn't do it for anyone but himself. Kratos' vengence was 100% a selfish desire. When Kratos became a god, he did the same fucking shit he hated the gods for. The opening of 2 is Kratos doing the exact same shit that Ares did. Other than that I agree
>>722242298This revisionism dont make you a better man, embrace change, be better.
>>722242393>Since when does the fucking God of War have regrets?Since the opening cutscene of God of War 1 when he tried to kill himself. I also think Ares and Tyr, both Gods of War, have lots of regrets: leaving Kratos and Odin alive mostly.
>>722230920No. He grew up. He self improved. He became better. Gamers need to learn from his example and accept the programming
>>722242559>This change isn't good>Embrace changeWut.
>>722242393And no one worships him, but he STILL has his godly powers?Theyre all deadNo one left to worship him, to give him power, but he still has his godly powers?Wtf
>>722242298No one actually played the game so they wouldn’t had known this. Baldur’s “revenge” was killing his mom because he couldn’t had felt anything and he was literally given the cure.
>>722242582Ares had no regretsOdin was the All-God, so of course there'd be some misgivings, but Kratos is the fucking God of War. He chose it. He wished to be there, and when challenged, he fucked everyone up
>>722242815They all plotted to take away his powers, but he fucked them all up and got his powers backNah, there's no reason to play this series anymore
>>722230920As in the person he is in by game 2? Yeah. By game 4? No, not really. He always wanted a family, the entire reason that drove him to rage and vengeance was losing his family to Ares's treachery.
>>722242943He stopped being human when he killed Ares. He became a god, and all that comes with it. He went beyond, and then he went beyond the beyond
>>722243056He defied fate and killed the actual Fates
>>722243121He's not human anymore. He stopped being human when Ares gave him the power. And even moreso when he killled Ares
>>722243320But the rest of the Gods tried to use him for their own ends, or kill him
>>722242757>Ares had no regrets>OdinAres would have to be retarded to not regret making his own literal Worst Enemy in Kratos. He must have died a very stupid god. Odin on the other hand, smart guy, but clearly never regretted anything either - which definitely led to his death. You might have a point that the most evil gods have no regrets, that's probably a theme.>but Kratos is the fucking God of War. He chose it. He wished to be thereHe did not. He wanted to wash away the guilt of killing his family. The gods pushed the position onto him to distract him from his grief, then he went kinda crazy with power and killed a lot of innocents while warring. Another mirror in Ragnarok is Kratos being asked to be the God of War, and he declines multiple times until he decides to give himself a second chance. Kratos - now - wants to be the God of War, he wanted death or forgiveness before.
>>722243409Oops meant to reply to >>722242815
>>722243391Since when do the Gods worry about the plight of mere humans except when it fulfills their own ends?
>>722243504He didnt careOh cared later, but not at the time
>>722242298I've played and completed all of the original GoWs (including the mediocre PSP games). I haven't played any of the nuGoWs but been thinking about trying them out, however this and >>722237985 this make me think that they're probably not even worth pirating.It's okay for Kratos to chill out a bit and the sex minigames in the originals were always dumb and cringe but I don't want a game constantly lecturing me on le toxic masculinity.
>>722243639But Kratos stopped being a human and became a GodA greek god. Those turds only cared as long as people worshipped them, caise that's where their power came from Kratos fucking killed everyone. All of them. Even his own worshippers. The dude should have no powers at all
>>722243723Nothing in God of War is about "le toxic masculinity". When he says being better, he means being better than a beast that chooses murder as the first recourse. The ability to lay down arms, to choose to not fight, is the minimum bar that Kratos asks for. Everything else you've ever heard is fucking memes.
>>722243723Conquerors had all the sex. It fits perfectly in with the context
>>722243867It was either rape, or chicks throwing themselves at the dude. But sex was hadIt's history
>>722242668>No one left to worship him, to give him power, but he still has his godly powers?The gods in GoW don't need worship to have power. The Olympians had their powers before they even defeated the Titans. It's inherent to them, and has nothing to do with belief
>>722243723On the other hand, I pretty much started the series on GoW2018, having only beaten 1 PSP game before. Now God of War is my favorite series and my most anticipated sequel/new game. I would love to play thru all the previous games, but I'm waiting for a modern collection preferably on PC.
>>722242393>Since when does the fucking God of War have regrets? He's War incarnate. The living being of war. Let humans have regrets, the way they tend do. He's a fucking GodDude, have you played any of the original games? First off, his nature is mortal. He wasn't born a god. Second off, he hates gods. Third off, it has been well established since 1 that Kratos has regrets: It's the entire crux of his story
>>722243991You don't think Napoleon or Alexander didn't do their share of raping, or chicks throwing themselves at them? Conquerers fucked, one way or the other
>>722243853>Nothing in God of War is about "le toxic masculinity".>Everything else you've ever heard is fucking memesThen why does it say "A poisonous notion of manhood, passed down through generations" in that picture?
>>722243995Then why were they worried about losing their powers and grip on humanity? When Kratos stirred things up, all they could think about was losing the worship of theor followers
>>722243867Okay but was it really necessary to make it anything but a non-interactive FMV or cutscene?
>>722244093That's the thing. He some how stayed human. The power didn't affect him like it did the rest. The rest of thr Gods didn't give a shit. They couldn't care. The refused to. But for some reason, the god powers didn't affect him. He wasn't above, he just wanted vengence
>>722244358..... it was immersive?ImsimImsim was all the rage at the time?Blame pc for wanting realismBlame advertising for wanting realismBlame ceo's for wantimg realismI just thought it was corny fun
>>722244529He was a minute man lolSheeitEven i've gone for an hour, and i've only drunkely smashed drunk ass hoes at partiesNot MY fault Kratos can only go for a minute or two
>>722244689If it was up to me, the qte's woulda been way longer. But nugamers alqaya gotta complain about everytjing
>>722244768Always*
>>722244839Take that shit up with Barlog, manNone of that in 2018, so what's the problem?
WowIt's another fine morningAlcohol kept me up all night againWine woulda been cool, tho, i stead of vodka
>>722244178A quote being taken out of context, as always. Mimir was talking about the relentless child abuse that Odin dealt Thor to essentially raise him as an attack dog.
>>722245106Sposed to work tomorrow. Not sure if i can
>>722230920He'd probably be disappointed with the massive downgrade in game mechanics.He'd be disgusted to know that huge portions of his games are just fake TV show crap.
>>722244234>Then why were they worried about losing their powers and grip on humanity? When Kratos stirred things up, all they could think about was losing the worship of theor followersWhen?
>>722245152Glad i make my own hours, but i hate letting down the custys
>>722244381>The power didn't affect him like it did the rest. The rest of thr Gods didn't give a shit. They couldn't care. The refused to. But for some reason, the god powers didn't affect him. He wasn't above, he just wanted vengenceI don't really know what you mean? What you mean by god powers not affecting him?
>>722245219When he disrupted everything and everytjing went out of whack throughout the whole Greece saga?
>>722245347He wasn't as uptight as the rest of the Gods. They only cared when he disrupted thimgs. Remember when Hera fayhered everyone to view his fight with Hecules?She invited everyone to show off hers and Hercules' power
>>722245350>When he disrupted everything and everytjing went out of whack throughout the whole Greece saga?When was it ever alluded to that the gods needed worship to have their powers? When did any of the gods show fear of not having worshippers? Like give me some concrete examples from the games, because I remember none of that.. Zeus betrays Kratos because he's afraid Kratos will usurp him. All the other gods fight Kratos because they're on Zeus'/their own side. It has nothing to do with losing worshippers
>>722245508Gathered*
>>722245532People stopped believing in the Gods. And in part 2 it got worse, and in part 3 ot got evem worse. Did you listen to the people in the games? Nevermind the gods, did you see amd hear the people as you played? Bit by bit, as the gods lost control and the weather got all fucked up
>>722245508>He wasn't as uptight as the rest of the GodsSo? At the start of 2 we see him do the exact same shit Ares was doing. Sure it was cool if you were a Spartan, but everyone else was shit out of luck
>>722245753People stopped worshipping themWhy you think Athena was trying to use Kratos
>>722245753The weather got fucked up by the gods DYING and everything going out of control. You saw this in God of War 3 when Poseidon died and immediately a tsunami wiped out half of greece.
>>722230920Unironically no, Kratos hates himself. I think the idea that he could get away from it would be very enticing to his younger self.
>>722245753>People stopped believing in the Gods. And in part 2 it got worse, and in part 3 ot got evem worseWhen? Give me an example>Did you listen to the people in the games? Nevermind the gods, did you see amd hear the people as you played? Which people?>Bit by bit, as the gods lost control and the weather got all fucked upThe weather got fucked up because Kratos was killing the gods. The world was flooded because Poseidon died. The sun was blocked out because Helios die. Plague was spread because Hermes died. Plants died because Hera died. It has nothing to do with belief. The power is inherent to them, like with the Titans
>>722245810He was playing the part, ut for some reason, he was still human. The power of the gods didnt affect him like the rest. They were fine abusing the people, he just gpt bored and Zeus took his powers away with the sword
>>722245161Also this
>>722245926Yeah,and the people lost faith. Bit by bit,the gods started to lose their powers
>>722246110That is not how anything worked. The people were in despair because the world was going to hell, but the gods had all of their powers until the moment Kratos killed them.
>>722245826>People stopped worshipping themNowhere in the games is it even implied that people are stopping their worship>Why you think Athena was trying to use KratosBecause Athena was a ghost, and since Kratos was already there, and they already had a familiar relationship, she had Kratos find the box she thought still had hope in it
>>722246110All the people did was cry and panic. Their faith was going awayJust watch it on youtube again and pay attention to the people
>>722230920>OG god of war games>actual movie games with fantastical set pieces where you climb giant titans and kill gods in a spectacular manner shitty reboot>made for tv series garbage where you pick flowers and have a talking head side kick also you get degraded by every female character because masculinity is viewed as misogynistic now
>>722246232Also this
>>722246017>He was playing the part, ut for some reason, he was still human.No, he was doing it for himself. The Gaia directly states that Kratos did it because he had turned his pain into hatred. He was sperging out, in no small part to spite the gods, but he was doing the same shit that Ares was killed for in the first place>he just got bored and Zeus took his powers away with the swordHe wasn't bored. Endless war and Sparta was the only thing left for him. The only thing that made him different was that he legit loved Sparta, but even then he didn't give them a second thought when he indirectly caused their destruction in 3
>>722246360So that's why he looked bored on his throne. Why the gods were in spite cause he killed Ares?He knew he didn't belong and the gods slighted him when they could. Especially ZeusPlus the whole father/son dynamic that Zeus was afeaid of cause he sent his own father to the depths
>>722246734I have the ps3 collection amd 3, but my disc drive is burnt out, or i'd stream that shit out of spite just to show you
he's not a narcissist who only thinks about himself so no. he only cared about avenging his family. if he was told to do that he would have to become a cuck, he'd probably still do it.
>>722246734>So that's why he looked bored on his throneWhatever bored looks like to you, 2 straight up tells you why he's doing it>Why the gods were in spite cause he killed Ares?Ares was killed because he was personally assaulting Athens while giving the middle finger to Olympus. Kratos had been and was still doing the same thing at the start of 2. Kratos had spite for the gods because they didn't remove his nightmares>He knew he didn't belong and the gods slighted him when they could. Especially ZeusThis is true>Plus the whole father/son dynamic that Zeus was afeaid of cause he sent his own father to the depthsThis is also true, but I don't know what that has to do with the discussion
The only reason Gods die is cause people eventually forget
>>722245143I googled the writer's name and one of the first things that came up was "LMAO, Anthony DMs the number 1 DnD podcast on itunes and is writing for God of War: Ragnarok. I love how you're acting like it's a dunk to say that Druckman's similar to a highly successful, inclusive writer">inclusive writersounds like I'm signing up for something much more than merely a chilled out more adult Kratos if I choose to play nuGoW
>>722246962Not in the God of War universe
>>722230920I read the books and Zeus was right about this faggot
>>722246936Yeah, the gods always fought each other. They always played a never ending game of chess and were always at odds with each other. That's why thier followers qould attack the shrines amd temples. But theu never killed each other. There was always a balance
>>722247021Those that remained didnt worship anyone, not even Kratos. He was the last and he abandoned them all
>>722247217Athena was ghost and she couldn't do shit, except try to use Kratos for her own ends
>>722246992You could just not play Ragnarok if such concerns weigh so heavily upon you, because the writing team of Ragnarok and GoW4 were radically different.
>>722247217What does that have to do with your other post? How is the aftermath of Greece relevant to what gives someone like Poseidon his power? Nowhere in the series is it stated or implied that the Olympians' power is dependent on worship
>>722247116That's why it was such a big thing when Kratos killed Ares. And why Zeus was afraid of Kratos. None dared to killanother till he came along. He did what they all refused to do. Shit was taboo, even for them
>>722247423Who knows? Kratos abandoned them all.Maybe in a sequel, he could go back to revive the faith
>>722247546Anon, it feels like you're not even responding to my post
>>722247546He was the last, after all. And for some reason, only Athena could be a ghost
>>722247342Yeah I might do exactly that but sucks I won't be able to finish the story. Isn't story (and characterization) a much bigger part of these new games than it was in the old ones?
>>722247592Cause how could we know? Obviously some survived, but we never get back to them, do we?The plot only says to care about Kratos in Midgard
>>722247615>only Athena could be a ghostI think one of the writers for 3 said that it was because she was the only Olympian to die by a selfless sacrifice, so she somehow transcended, but 3 only gives the excuse that "death can not hold those with purpose" and then the story quickly moved along so you wouldn't ask questions
>>722247730We can only assume the survivors eventually just went on with their lives. Although i kinda hate that, cause the gods were the only ones that kept the balanceWhat about the rest of the Titans?
>>722247819Right?Just move the story alongDon't think about anything cause it's part 3 and the series was supposed to die on handhelds like all series were supposed toMegaman, castlevanian, etc
>>722247930Metal gear before Konami got greedy amd forced Hideo to make 5
>>722247730You said that gods only die because people stop believing in them. I said that that isn't true in the God of War universe. Then you suddenly started talking about the aftermath of 3's ending and how Kratos never went back there. Let me state this as clearly as I can: The Olympians in God of War DO NOT require worship to exist or have power. Nowhere has that been stated or implied. The gods, like the Titans before them, were born as powerful beings and they had that power because people worshipped them as a pantheon
>>722247840>What about the rest of the Titans?Hard to say. It would be easiest to assume that they simply all died in the assault on Olympus, but that Titans like Atlas are still holding up the world (I don't think Atlas was even transported forward in time like the rest)
>>722248076I'll bring up Hera where she tried to prove her power by bringing everyone to her games where she used Hercules to fight Kratos out in the open, for all to seeDidnt work tho, cause of course, Kratos fucks up Hercules real bad
>>722248076>The gods, like the Titans before them, were born as powerful beings and they had that power because people worshipped them as a pantheonI meant to say "before people worshipped them"
>>722248273Right? How many were there, and how many were shown assaulting Mount Olympus. Wasn't all of them
>>722248283>I'll bring up Hera where she tried to prove her power by bringing everyone to her games where she used Hercules to fight Kratos out in the open, for all to seeIt had nothing to do with proving power. She was just a spectator for the Hercules battle. And again, what does that have to do with our discussion? You're not actually responding to what I'm posting
>>722248426She set it all up to show her prescence, to show still had control. That's all games were; prescence amd power
>>722248643To keep people worshipping her, and to a lesser extant, Hercules
>>722248712But she failed amd the people lost that much more faith in the Gods
>>722248643Gods in the God of War universe do not require worship to exist or have power. That's all I'm really trying to say here>>722248712>To keep people worshipping her, and to a lesser extant, HerculesNo, she was there to see Kratos get killed. Her doing it to keep people worshipping her is your headcanon. It is not alluded to, it is not implied, and it is never stated
>>722248780If they believed, none of the gods could ever really die, but the people lost faith
>>722248827Are you CoreyIs that you, Barlog?.Power just doesn't do things. There's always a purpose
>>722248884>If they believed, none of the gods could ever really die, but the people lost faithWhere do you even get that from? Nothing in any of the games imply this. This is never a plot point. The gods existed before they were worshipped, and none of the gods showed any weakening throughout 3. You are taking rules from some other fictional universe and you're trying to force it into the God of War lore
>>722249025>Power just doesn't do things. There's always a purposeYeah, the purpose was very clerarly to have Kratos killed. The phone game already showed us that Hera didn't like Kratos, much the same reason she didn't like Hercules: He was a bastard son of Zeus. You're attributing motivation to her that was never in the games
>>722249025And in this case, it's to say "I still have power. I'm in control". But Hecules lost. Her Champion failed
>>722234496It’s your fault for not buying ascension, silly snoy
>>722249145They alrwady fucked with the canon by making Hercules a subserviant to Hera. Like he would, accoridng to lore. They(santa monoca) made it like that cause Kratos wqs alrwady a Hercules replacement. They gave Kratos, who was a minor character in mythos, amd gave him Hercules' strory
>>722249246Aw shit, my badGuess i'll go kill myselfGOODDDSSSSSSS
>>722249246Ascension was a prequel, not a sequel. Also they spent too much of the development time and budget on multiplayer.
oh right you meant that nobody bought ascension thus gow was gutted, nevermind
>>722249412Kratos barely existed in mythos. They gave him Hercules' story. It made for a good game and story, but Hercules wasn't a blood thirsty being of vengence. He had his labours and was a hero of the people. Someone we could look up to
>>722230920I think he was disappointed in who he bcame the moment he turned snow-colored, and the point of no return was when Sparta fell.
>>722230920Jannies will be dissapointed in this thread. They seem to have a really soft spot for Kratos
I wish I was Kratos. I want a pile of women to seduce and have room shaking sex with. I hate being a mortal. Mortality fuckin' sucks.
>>722235179This right here is the whole problem with modern AAA slop in a nutshell.
>>722249837Almost like Thor, protector of Earth
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hHZfyhVOGLY&list=RDhHZfyhVOGLY&start_radio=1&pp
WE MUST BE WORSE THEN THIS
>ITT: Men who didn't become betterGrim.
>>722251148Its 4chan. Everybody here wants to be worse.
whatever happened to Kratos 2
>>722252024A good question that has no answers. You just sort of have to accept that when it comes to 2's time travel plotline. It was pretty bold of them to introduce time travel to a character whose storyline revolves around mistakes he made in the past. You're telling me Kratos can travel back to any point in time, and his first priority isn't to go back and save his family? Not even as a quick detour before fighting Zeus?
>>722234496darksiders (1) is the closest spiritual sequel
>>722252845>Not even as a quick detour before fighting Zeus?His priorities are not in order.
>>722234496It'd still be about norse mythology, that was the plan from the beginning.>kratos wakes up, disappointed he failed to kill himself again>shambles all the way to a mountain>probably also runs into the meth head god, who picks a fight with him because he thinks he's truly invincible>kratos wins and takes his weapon, either a short sword or an axe>eventually runs into thor, but it goes way different than in cuck of war: goynarok>they become friends, spitroast freya (who is not a post-wall femoid) and kill odin because he's a faggot>next game is set in egypt>game after that is set in jerusalem because balrog and jaffe planned for kratos, thor and iirc horus to literally fight satan just so maria could safely deliver jesus, and he presumably would be the one to free kratos from his tormentIt sounds incredibly stupid, but it's still a thousand times better than what we got.
>>722252024Got snatched by gaia, and went through the same shit as kratos 1.>>722252845He killed the three goddesses that controlled time, their temple was already crumbling when he killed the third one. He literally had no time for a detour.
>>722255280>He killed the three goddesses that controlled time, their temple was already crumbling when he killed the third one. He literally had no time for a detour.But he doesn't even consider going back to his family. Saving him family is the one thing you can confidently say that Kratos would choose over his vengeance. The idea that he wouldn't even try is pretty hard to believe. His first instinct should've been to go back and save his family, especially because the palace isn't crumbling when he first time travels back to Rhodes
>>722255280>Got snatched by gaia, and went through the same shit as kratos 1.But he can't really. The Sisters of Fate and the Isle of Creation exist outside of time, which means that Kratos 2 is going to show up to a destroyed palace and won't be able to time travel. What's more, Kratos 1 is going to be assaulting Olympus when Kratos 2 would be on his quest, and the world would slowly get destroyed. Gaia would also be busy fighting, I guess
The biggest insult with nugow are that they try to have kratos be stoic as some rehetoric against toxic masculinity when stoicism IS toxic and kratos was the very model of why you shouldnt be stoic. When he was stoic to the greek gods he would just be screwed at every turn, only when he had enough and got mad did he make change.
>>722230920Nu-Kratos feels like a sock puppet, you can hear the puppeteer's reddit voice coming through the excellent voice more and more. The best part of nu-gow for me in terms of characters was the first few times Atreus got upset. Didn't end up liking the character at all, but he felt so human, the alienation between them was tangible and actually compelling. From there on it sucked story wise for me, though.
>>722258784And they had to do the cringy thing where every character Kratos was gonna punch had to be the most punchable fucker with faux-gravitas monologuing
GoW 4 should have been about a lost or overlooked Greek pantheon member who survived Kratos' genocide in the third game and tracks him all the way to Scandinavia to get revenge and the game gives you two different ending choices:>Ending 1, player decides that Kratos hasn't been redeemed or can't be redeemed, so he dies by their hand>Ending 2, player decides that Kratos is still on the pathway to redemption, so he gets to live for now
>>722230920Why won't Sony re-release the other Greek games aside from GOW3?
>>722230920I think he'd be disappointed that he was still alive.
yeah what is this shit, disgustinghttps://youtu.be/zDiv8JuAOs8?t=26also at https://youtu.be/zDiv8JuAOs8?t=164uhhhh did the writers even play the old games? i'm pretty sure the spartans worshipped kratos as a god of war for a while, see intro of gow2
>>722233545Actually true. In the original game, Kratos literally exists in the modern day and rules as the god of war for all of time
>>722260406I don't ever want to play as a character that beats Kratos . I have never played a game where it was satisfying to be some random character that beats up the series protagonist. Prototype did the same shit, and nobody liked that, and why would they? I don't want to beat up Alex Mercer. I want him to fucking win, because I've spent an entire game playing as Alex Mercer, and no sequel cunt gets to kill the guy I wrecked absolute shit with at the start of the series
>>722262684>yeah what is this shit, disgustingI have never played ragnarok but what is disgusting here I dont get it
>>722257953Depends. No would would claim that Marcus Aurelius' stoicism was toxic, would they?
>>722260406All I'm imagining is how awkward Aphrodite meeting Atreus and Freya would be.
>>722263138In concept though, it's still a really cool idea to have a boss fight against the series protagonist. Even better, it's impossible to win, just to demonstrate how cool they are. The biggest failure of the Valhalla DLC was not having a Kratos boss, and the biggest failure of Halo 5 was not having a Master Chief boss
>>722262684>i'm pretty sure the spartans worshipped kratos as a god of war for a while, see intro of gow2They 100% did. It's because Ragnarok wants to pretend like Kratos wasn't worshipped so that they can make some point about him, but 2 and GoS straight up shows and tells us that Sparta did in fact worship him. I mean there are people in Sparta who could've grown up with the guy, and now he's a fucking god that has Sparta's back, and he's the god of war to boot? Of course Spartans worshipped him
>>722230920He should be more disappointed that they gimped his jumping ability.
>>722263202the way odin talks here gives those "quirky" "funny" (some call it "marvel movie writing" or "millennial writing" or "reddit writing" i believe) vibes a bit to me, but maybe not all characters are like this or it somehow fits odin's personality in these games i dunno i haven't played them
>>722263896>maybe not all characters are like thisThey absolutely fucking do. Every single one. Kratos is the only character who has a dignified, setting-appropriate diction. Every other character speaks like a modern-day American. It's the biggest failing of nuGOW's writing, and if you hate that shit in fantasy settings, definitely never play them
>>722263554>In concept though, it's still a really cool idea to have a boss fight against the series protagonist. Even better, it's impossible to win, just to demonstrate how cool they are.Ding ding, you're right on the money>The biggest failure of the Valhalla DLC was not having a Kratos bossDefinitely. Then we'd be able to see the power house Kratos is from an outside perspective
He was disappointed in who he became after he sold himself like a whore to Ares.
>>722230920yeah
>ATREUS!>BRING ME ANOTHER BOTTLE!
>>722254118I'd play it.
>>722230920He would probably consider his non canon sequel self to be a soft and weak minded fool.
>>722230920>Do you think he’d be disappointed in the person he becomes?He'd tear down the fabric of reality to torture the devs
>>722230920No, because he was a worse person.(And a better character, but that's not what you asked)
>>722234496You're right, we must do better.
>>722264284It'd be unfair to cucktos.>does his weak shitty charge, or his telegraphed axe swings (he literally can't do cyclone of chaos properly anymore)>kratos jumps over all his attacks then grabs him>when you activate """spartan rage""" kratos does the same, except he coats himself in flames and whips out the sword of olympus
>>722251148The transphobia, homophobia, racism and unfriendly to advertisers content made me look away from this board in shame. We have to be better posters than this, we MUST be better men.
>>722264201Brok and Tyr (actual) speak somewhat correctly as well.But most characters are full on redditlords
>>722266837nice goon cave
These threads are pissing me off so much I'm going to become a WORSE man purely out of spite.
>>722236492This
>>722230920>It looks like you need one of my pills Kratos-san
>>722270126>I'm really sad about this new bitch of a wife who you have no idea aboutFaye ruined everything literally..... and faggots genuinely like her with her "good boy" bullshit
>>722270525>racism>misogynism>homophobia>transphobiaWe don't tolerate that nazi incel chuddery around here, be better
Death Battle autism with Kratos vs Goku would break powerfaggotry forever
>the BVLL only came once inside my wife instead of the usual 4 times.>It. Is over. The cycle ends here.
>>722240757Thor, Heimdall, Baldur and Odin fights were kino. I like all the big monster fights too like Garm, Niddy boy, and The dragon near the mountain's peak
As an 89er I actually see most 35 year olds with kids now. Le failed millennial is a cope. Also Reddit writing was founded by Gen X game devs.
>The new games are just protracted therapy sessions for the faggy creators.
>>722270525WorseMenbros I am disappointed.WE....MUST.....BE....BETTER(tbf memes aside the discussion has been nice and honest at least, the disc breaking was kinda sad but makes sense)
I don't get this Millennial hate, All the biggest faggot and shit disturbers that I know of are all Gen-Xers.
>>722230920Better menBetter better better better menSteam ‘ecks ‘pon me Boy, I will cry some moreDon’t look into eyes no more Have Sony on me Have Sony on my boy Somewhere my tendies turned cold Have Sony for better men Better better better men Steam ‘ecks pon me
>We *ouch*... we *AWWW* must be *aaaiiie* better *oooooiii* men! *ooof*
>>722270834That pretentious nonsense never had any place for an IP like God of War. It was cool because it was about a rugged manly warrior going fucking apeshit on everything that blocks his path to revenge.
>>722230920I probably would be. If teenage me saw adult me he'd probably be like "Damn, what the fuck happened? Why did I become so obese, gay and (more) mentally ill?"
>>722270834>>722271220Trvth nvke
>>722271220It actually would've been cool to see Kratos keep his cool *for a while*And then Atreus getting hurt and seeing him go apeshit over it. It actually would make Kratos seem more mature as well, without losing his edge, best of both worlds.
Why'd did they make the Norse Gods into trailer park methheads?Just to dunk on the "Nazis" or some shit?
>>722271450Yeah but that's good writing and nu-gow writers are incapable of quality writing.
WE MUST BE BETTER MEN OUR WIVES BULLS WILL REWARD US WITH FUNKO POPS
>>722230920Does anyone have that clip of the start of God of war 1 vs God of war 4? The startup time between being allowed to play the game was hilarious
>>722233545basedandfpbp
>>722264201>>722270445that's too bad to hear (also i meant "quippy" not "quirky" of course but anyway)seems they also made one of the norse gods black just to score diversity brownie points what the fuck lol i could live with that if the game and writing were actually good but it's still stupid every time it happens
>>722233545Everything up until 3 is canon to me. And as far as i'm concerned he died at the end of it.
>>722270834That's true for majority of modern games. Especially rpgs.No, seriously compare the way characters talk with each other in DAV, SW Outlaws and Andromeda to Mass Effect and VtmB for exmaple. Eveyone is talking in a soft, calming manner like patients of some hospital, retirement house or a daycare.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_pE3oHO6lcWhat's up with that? Where the edge, where's the character, personality, where are emotions?
>>722251148>Look at you, young, arrogant, hateful, misogynistic. Don't support disabled trans bipoc rights. You probably don't even like prepping the bull. But no more! I choose to become a better man, a stronger man. Not physically but emotionally.>Boiiii! Come now, my work here is done. We must prep the bull and be...better.
>>722234496Kratos should have died at the end of GoW3 and GoW4 should have been a brand new protagonist. Fuck bringing Kratos back and just turning him into a different character
>>722272768All media now ends in a big sharing cycle of feelings.
>>722242412its funny that for all the otherwise bullshit additions to lore and retcons Ragnarok pulls, they actually try to softball his faustian bargain. he's shaming himself about making such a stupid deal and some new god basically argues "you were about to die, and your lands were gonna be conquered and raped. you made a bad decision but why you made it is understandable."
>>722270606kek
>>722236148>Why would you care about morality when the gods themselves are controlling every single aspect of who gets to live or dies?We must be men better than gods
So how about dem olives?
>>722230920>Do you think he’d be disappointed in the person he becomes?Yes. He basically talks to himself in that DLC...
>Democracy: Saved>Women: Respected>BIPOC and neurodivergent folks: Empowered>Kurt Vonnegut: Readered>Jefre Cantu-Ledesma: Listened>Wall: Bricked>Wife: Blacked>Science: Believed>Vax: Boosted>Soilent: Consoomed>Car: Electrified>Balldo: Installed>Black Lives: Matter>BORDERLANDS 4: PLATINUM!!
>>722272890Its never going to be not funny lmao. Good one getting creative and using the Valhalla ending
>>722273529>"Excusing [your past actions] is not the exercise Kratos, only accepting them"I FUCKING HATE HIPPIE TYR SOOOO MUCH ITS UNREAL(his boss fight and music is top tier though)
>>722263138The only one that made it satisfying was hand of fate and thats because not only does the original villain help you do so, but the original protag was an old cunt even in the first game.
>>722274903GODS MUST BE BETTER MEN
>>722233545True bc cannons didn't exist in ancient Greece
>>722281150kek
>>722230920People should be more mad that the combat turned into hit sponge health bar faggotry where you need to wombo combo basic zombies for a full minute to make them die
