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> [NS2] Mario Kart World – 35,027 / 1,801,323
>[NSW] Sonic Racing: CrossWorlds – 5,571 / NEW

https://www.gematsu.com/2025/10/famitsu-sales-9-22-25-9-28-25
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>>722243017
no one asked
stop being butthurt that sega made a better game
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>whore out Miku to get Japanbux
>don’t

guffaw
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>>722243017
>Pack in title for a highly anticipated console sells more than a Sonic kart racer.
Wow, I am utterly shocked and surprised at this outcome.
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>>722243017
We already know Sonic flopped because it had 13k concurrent players on Steam. It didn't seem to be doing too well on the Nintendo eShop either, it was on a lower position than Mario Kart 8 last time I checked.
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>>722243017
Nice birthday hat sonic
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>>722243017
Sonicbros... not like this...
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>make fun of Nintendo
>say your game is better than their racing game
>your game ended up selling best (and underperforming) on their console
What do we call this phenomenon?
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NO! NO! NO! NO! NOOOOO! THIS ISNT HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO! SEGA WAS SUPPOSED TO WIN! AAAAA
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>>722243017
There's already a thread for this >>722242432
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>>722243017
I don't give a shit about either game but it's fucking Mario no shit
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>>722243017
Wake up grandpa, Sonic was only Mario's rival for ten years out of his thirty-five years of existence. Why the fuck are you comparing them when Sonic is on the same system now? Yes, the ones who were propping Crossworlds up to shitpost against MKW are equally as dumb.
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>>722244253
It's called a humbling experience I believe.
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>>722244582
No one expected Sonic to sell better. Mario Kart is packed in with the fucking system and the last one sold 60 million. Tendies got upset because Crossworlds is really fun while MKW is incredibly underwhelming (Tendies are having to come to grips with that). Despite Tendies shilling, Crossworld threads are active while MKW threads are basically dead.
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>>722244253
>>722244709
Why so upset?
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>>722245165
Only sales figures matter, Sonicbab. Mario won again.
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>Bring... Sonic... to me...
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>>722245273
>Mariofags only care about sales
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I was about to take this seriously until I saw it was Japanese sales, the last time they cared for Sonic was Adventure.
>>722244253
>>your game ended up selling best (and underperforming) on their console
Provide me the sales data of it outside of Japan for this claim.
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>Sales doesn't matter
Kind of agree and disagree, Agree that masterpieces don't always sell well sadly but no if you don't want your beloved series dead then this shit better sell.

I don't know if it was true but I heard something about Sega axing the blue rat if Frontiers didn't cut it sales wise
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>>722245506
ww numbers btw
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Sonic cross worlds looks like a big budget phone game. Of course it would never reach the heights of one of the best selling game series of all time. The only people that believe that are delusional Nintendo obsessed haters like the ones in this thread.
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>>722243017
But the advert ;_;
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>>722245736
>Of course it would never reach the heights of one of the best selling game series of all time.
Mario was packaged with the console. It was never going to compete.
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>>722243017
Thats unfortunate but Sonic is the better crafted game
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>>722245910
Mario Kart doesn't need to be packaged to outsell Sonic. Just watch as soon as the bundle changes from Mario Kart to Pokemon ZA, Mario Kart will still be running circles around Sonic Crossworlds.
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>>722245720
If you like steam only sales numbers, let me help you.
Now provide the sales data for Sonic on the switch, as it was claimed it sold best on it.
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>>722246067
>Mario Kart doesn't need to be packaged to outsell Sonic
I'm saying that, no matter what, Sonic would never reach Mario's heights because it got packaged on a console that sold well.
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The more things change, the more they stay the same. This is why exclusives are still a thing by the way, multiplatform games are the big oof
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>>722243115
maybe on planet retard
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>>722245875
>literal who on twitter
Could you have your own opinions for a change?
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>>722243115
Maybe, but money talks and Mario won yet again.
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Does Famitsu record digital sales?
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Only the money matters. The money tells us that the people want Mario.
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>>722245273
>Mariofans back then
>gameplay matters
>Mariofags now
>sales matter
Damn, you guys have fallen hard.
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>>722243017
I thought sales figures meant nothing? Or does that metric change per goalpost?
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>>722245393
Kek
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>>722243017
Why does Sonic keep fucking lying?
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>>722246604
Mario makes the money, therefore Mario won again at the only thing that matters. Recognition.
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>>722246469
It's japan & physical only.
They made threads on this every week anyway as its prime shitposting material.
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>>722246665
forgot pic lmao
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>>722243017
Nice falseflagging
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>>722246665
>>722246746
He lied? Where?
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>>722246746
Based Sonic's voice telling him to make a quality game, not one that sells the most.
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Soulless game.
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>>722243115
Money > Your retarded opinion
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>>722243115
>sega made a better game
Still waiting for that to happen.
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Wait a minute, it's just Switch sales? Is Crossworlds not on the Switch 2?
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>>722247001
Yep Genshin Impact truly is better than both Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom
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>>722246727
Recognition? Not fun gameplay?
So you're saying something like Animal Crossing Amiibo Festival is good purely because its part of a recognised series
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>>722247175
It is
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>>722245405
it is a marketer, Nintendo has marketers too
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>>722247153
Nope. You only got the 30fps version on Switch
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>>722247180
Yes, don't question me.
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>>722246746
>Implying kishimoto directed crossworlds

Masaru Kohayakawa
Shingo Kawakami
there you go
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>>722244582
People are making the comparisons because Segas own ad invited it.
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>>722243017
When has Sonic ever outsold Mario without being a forced pack in game?
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>>722246182
Nigger exclude the bundled sold copies of any Mario kart to any total sold sonic racing game, and Mario kart still outsells it tenfold. Are you retarded?
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>>722247792
I'm not desputing that, you retarded fucking ape. I'm saying that no matter how well Sonic were to sale, it will still never come close tp Mario Kart due to the bundles.
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>>722243017
>Make a vastly overpriced shit game with no content and tons of missing basic features that only get shilled because tendies are mad at mario kart
>flop
I'm shocked
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>>722247954
Nintendoniggers can’t read, did you forget?
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>>722247954
Learn to read retard. I’m saying exclude all bundled sold copies, and Mario kart still outsells any of the total sales for any sonic racing games.
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>>722248056
Sonic tards doubling down on their illiteracy. Not surprised. You live in a different reality.
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>>722247646
>People are making the comparisons because Segas own ad invited it.

Hell Sega must have paid a few millions to Geoff Keighley just to have Iizuka fly to America and show up at the Summer Game Fest literally to just fire bizarre shots at Mario Kart for not having cross-play.
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>>722245165
>IGN
What are you retards doing?
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>>722248256
Except nobody is going against the notion that Sonic can’t compete with Mario in sales, tendie subhuman. You’re the one who lacks literacy skills.
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Sonic won
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Damn this thread has worse meltdown even compared to famitsu thread. Sonic schizos really are some loud minorities
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>>722246182
And the NS2 is selling because people want to play Mario Kart.
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Both these games are overpriced for what they are.
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>>722247153

Switch 2 version doesn’t come out until December
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>>722248191
>I’m saying exclude all bundled sold copies
Retard, where was it ever implied in that post that Sonic would catch up even without bundled copies? Even if Sonic WERE TO SELL WELL, bundled copies would ensure that Sonic wouldn't come close. Can you fucking read, chimp?
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>>722247153
No, there is a Switch 2 Edition planned for a Holiday release but it's only on Switch 1 currently. Game is going to actually be on the cart and be a $10 upgrade (Switch 1 version is $10 cheaper) as well so respect to Sega for that at least.
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>>722248028
>>Make a vastly overpriced shit game with no content and tons of missing basic features
But enough about Mario Kart.
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>>722248810
This. Where is 200cc
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>>722247954
>>722248365
Right here in your obvious esl post, you make the excuse that sonic can’t compete because of bundled sales. It doesn’t compete with or without bundled copies.

As this anon notes >>722248569 you are a loud minority of autists under the delusion that sonic racing games are better than Mario kart. It’s in reality a poor imitation. The gameplay looks like a scripted theme park ride with rails everywhere to prevent you from falling. Couldn’t even get the budget to have voice acting for SpongeBob and Patrick.
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>>722243017
They are both the exact same fucking game, the only difference being playable characters and stages why do so many people bitch about something so shallow?
If you guys complained about gameplay as much as you bitched about sales data and “who won” maybe we’d get an actual good game like double dash again. Faggots.
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>>722243115
If it’s better then why isn’t it selling more? Face it, the game controls like shit and the sales reflect that people want a game that controls well and isn’t zoomer sensory overload.
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>>722248873
>Mario Kart leaves out 200cc entirely
>Crossworlds has it's own 200cc, but doesn't let you play it online
What the fuck man.
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>Sonicfags post endless threads here, posts and videos elsewhere about how everyone is going to quit Mario Kart World and play Sonic Racing
>Sega even leans into this sentiment with their own marketing, remaking the infamous "blast processing" ad and going viral as a result
>game flops
>"N-no one s-said it was going to b-beat Mario Kart"
You got BTFO, own it.
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>>722248658
Not really. MKW is massive in its contents, it certainly justifies it's price. Crossworlds meanwhile is like Double Dash tier.
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>>722243017
Why are you only counting Switch sales for Sonic CrossWorlds?
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>>722248701
It’s a moot point when sonic racing doesn’t come close to selling as much as a Mario kart game without including a single bundled copy. You act as if people are not buying Nintendo consoles for Mario kart in the first place. It’s a system seller. Sonic racing is not. No one bought a Saturn for Sonic R. It’s not like they’re buying a ps1 in Europe, and mediocre garbage like Croc is bundled with pretty much every copy.
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>>722248909
>Right here in your obvious esl post
Projecting eslnigger who can’t read.
>you make the excuse that sonic can’t compete because of bundled sales
Nigger that’s not even me, but even then that’s not what the post says. He’s saying bundled copies would make sure that it would never have a remote chance of competing. Where in that statement does it imply Sonic would compete without the bundled copies?
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>This tendie melty over Sonic
Holy fuck the game really went under their skin. If it was a bad game they could simply ignore it, but beating MK at their own game (again) they need to attack it
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>>722246746
Bad sales doesnt always reflect on games quality
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>>722249070
>Crossworlds has it's own 200cc but the cars start overshooting after a jump and fall off the map because it was never designed to be played that way
fixed, Transformed had the same problem too where you'd hit the ceiling and walls everywhere unless you slowed down a lot on purpose.
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>>722247954
People are buying a $450 console to play an exclusive MK.
Meanwhile the Sonic knockoff is on every single relevant platform and barely anyone gives a shit about it.
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Sonic fucking sucks, failed franchise since day 1. You know what would save Sonic? If SEGA sold that shitty IP to Godtendo.
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>>722249132
World really needs to fix Grand Prix, I like the knock out tour but sometimes I just want to fucking play regular three lap races
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Sorrry, still not paying $1000 + tax + tip + Nintendo bonus for one game :/
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>>722249309
Other way around, Nintendo lives rent free on Sega's head kek.
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>>722243115
/thread
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still not purchasing a switch or a switch 2
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>literally made a MOVE OVER MARIO tv add
>fail
every
fucking
time
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>>722250306
>ESL
Every time.
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>>722247175
That's actually true though in every aspect but the monetization
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>>722243017
still not buying until they add teto
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NOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOOOOO I MADE HUNDRED OF THREADS SHITTING ON MARIO SHART HOW COULD THIS BE
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>>722245165
>>722245405
>>722246549
>IGN
Mario has 86 on metacritic and 87 on opencritic
Sonic has 82 on metacritic and 83 on opencritic
Why are you so scared of showing the scores?
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>>722245736
>Sonic cross worlds looks like a big budget phone game.
just like mario kart!
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>>722250847
>b.b.b.BUT NINTENDOOOOOOOOO
I'm noticing a pattern there about why your game failed. It literally doesn't have any quality on its own. you only define it by invoking the enemy tribe.
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I don't get why Sega just doesn't embrace Sonic being a gay icon.

Kill off Amy, and have Sonic and Knuckles make out already.
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>>722243017
So I'm guessing the snoys are going to jump to propping up that Digimon game next?
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it does seem like a way more fun game thoughbeit
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>>722251046
I don't really like either game that much, there are better kart racers
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Forget Mario, that's a lost war
Why is Sonic doing worse than Silent Hill in every single market? That's a survival horror against a racing game
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>>722251562
they already have been
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>>722249158
The Switch version is the only version that sold enough to make the top 10 chart, I'm not kidding.
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>>722243017
>>722243115
If SEGA made a better game (it IS better in a few aspects) why did no one buy it?
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It sold about the same amount as any other Sonic game in Japan. The only game that sold a ridiculous amount recently was Frontiers.
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>>722252613
>muh switch 1 sales
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>>722243115
>no one asked
lol
lmao even
the entire discourse around this game's identity has been to compare it to Mario Kart. And now the shoe is on the other foot.
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Let's talk facts really quick
Super Mario Kart>any contemporary
Mario 64<Crash Team Racing and Diddy Kong Racing
Double Dash>any contemporary
Super circuit>Banjo Pilot
Sonic All Stars Racing<Mario Kart Wii<Excitebots
Mario Kart DS>any contemporary
Mario Kart 7>any contemporary
Mario Kart 8<Sonic All Stars Racing Transformed
Mario Kart 8 Deluxe<Crash Team Racing Nitro Fueled
Mario Kart World<Sonic Crossworlds
It's very rare that Mario Kart is actually the best kart racer of the generation. And if we're talking racing in general? Mario Kart literally never wins, Super gets logged by Outrun 6 years prior, and Double Dash would lose to F-Zero GX/AX
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Mario looked at all the guest racers in Sonic Racing Crossworlds. He then turned to Luigi, Peach and Bowser, and said:

"Look what they need to mimic a fraction of our power."

And it still wasn't enough.
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>>722243115
>better game
>$100 of dlc
>every race forces you into intermission tracks
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>>722243017
Why does nobody buy games on Switch 2?
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>>722253580
>>$100 of dlc
All SEGA characters are free. You love ignoring that part.
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>>722253616
Most of the third party shit is keycards that nobody wants and Nintendo hasn't put out anything of note since Bananza. If you're asking about Sanic specifically, there is no Switch 2 version.
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>>722253490
MKW roster is dogshit
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>>722253490
cool fanfic sis
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>>722253396
>lets talk facts real quick
where is the evidence to support any of these "facts"?
These are just arbitrary arrows pointing right or left.
All you've demonstrated is how much of a hipster you are about hating Bing Bing blue shell game
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>>722253761
L take.
Even the haters admit the roster and OST slap.
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>>722253761
Sonic needs Miku to sell 5k units lmao
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>>722253490
/thread
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>>722253616
It's not out on switch 2 yet.
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>>722253490
Mario Kart World has a roster full of enemies no one asked for, and a cow.
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>>722253396
Society fell when F-zero disappeared.
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>>722245165
>>722246817
>spamming a single review to cope
Mario won. Sonic lost.
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>>722253849
I think the big story here is that Sonic actively devalues other IP's in Japan. Miku's games had better 1st week numbers than this.
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>>722253951
>cropped out the user scores
Show them.
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>>722254014
>discord raid scores and console seethe
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>>722253490
>And it still wasn't enough.
Retard, 5k is a fraction of 35k
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>>722254014
>muh user scores that anyone can spam without ever playing the game
Most of MKW's negative user reviews are seething about the Switch 2, not even the game itself.
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>>722253849
>>722254005
You're only looking at Switch 1 sales, and digital isn't included. This game isn't even out on Switch 2 yet.
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The actual races are better in Crossworlds. Both have a bagging issue, though.
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>>722253951
Based.
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>>722253951
Holy based.
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>>722253951
Fucking BASED.
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>>722254164
ah yes, it's MKW's home field where Crossworlds will finally beat it
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>>722254014
Metacritic user score has always been irrelevant, especially since you can't confirm you played the game and can easily spam new accounts to glaze or bomb games with 0's and 10's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVlZORgKhwQ
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>>722254176
>The actual races are better in Crossworlds.
I strongly disagree but whatever.
I'm enjoying both games. I like the sonic characters and aeathetic of crossworlss. I think Worlds tracks are on another level.
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>>722254374
>where Crossworlds will finally beat it
Who said that, aside from you just now?
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>>722254164
What's the average physical/digital ratio?

Genuinely asking
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>>722253951
BASED BASED BASED.
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>>722254448
(YOU) did most likely.
I should really throw the extension on so I can see the samefagging again but I don't want to cough up the $20
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>>722243017
>faggot doesn't know that Sonic isn't popular in japan
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This thread is nothing but samefagging kek
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>>722254516
>(YOU) did most likely
When the fuck did I say that, retard?
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>>722253951
THIS THIS THIS.
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>>722253749
Yeah, I was asking more about 3rd party games on Switch 2 in general. I honestly don't expect Crossworlds to chart either when it comes to Switch 2.
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>>722253951
Holy fuck, this. How can Shitgafags compete?
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>>722253951
82 or 83 is the highest Sonic's going to go. Back to the yellow mines with the next massive failure segay is going to put out for that series.
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>>722253951
Why are SEGAfags so fucking pathetic?
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>>722254580
when you were ranting about how "w-we haven't seen the switch 2 sales" as if that would change the narrative.
It won't obviously.
But go ahead and keep deflecting.
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>>722243115
>Forced intermissions in every race
>Better game
At least play what you shill, lil bro
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>>722253667
But all the new Tracks are licensed shit. The worst aspect of the season pass is that it is adding 1 track per pack for a total of 6 new tracks for 20 bucks
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>>722243017
Bought both games. Mario I got sick of in less than a week sonic is like crack and ironically the only thing that might make me stop is when the slop crossovers invade it
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>>722254470
Japan leans mostly buys physical for switch games with a ratio of about 70/30.
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>>722254971
Why does Sega get a pass for cutting content from the game and selling it as DLC? Because "fuck Nintendo"?
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>actual Crossworlds thread autosaged
>this will be allowed to bump limit
It's nice to see the "schizo rumor" of /v/ jannies and mods being blatant nintendo meat riders out in the open at least.
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>>722254875
How does my statement equate to
>Sonic Racing Crossworlds will beat MKW
in your brain-dead, diseased ESLfag mind? You made that conclusion up all on your own.
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>>722253951
So much this.
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>>722255127
the only reason Crossworlds is at all even relevant is because it was used as a proxy in the "fuck nintendo" conversation.
I actually feel bad for the game and Sega fans, because they're not even the main culprits. They just want to enjoy their game.
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>>722255030
I'm on 135 hours of Mario Kart because Knockout Tour is really fun. Video games are fun!
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>>722255127
Since all of the paid DLC is external licensed stuff yea it does get them a pass since anything from those DLCs had to be worked on post primary development due to back and forth communication from the IP Holders and Sega's dev teams.

The Free DLC characters tho I can agree on not liking drip feed content though. But it is what it is and at least they're tying that drip feed content to online festival events.
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>>722254854
holy shit sonic's such a flop series
flopnic
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>>722253951
THIS RIGHT HERE.
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>>722255231
>actual Crossworlds thread autosaged
Generals are not allowed on /v/, go to /vg/
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>>722253951
So MKW is 66 without the Nintendo bonus?
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Any sonicfag doing damage control just needs to suck it up and hold the L. This board was spammed for weeks with threads saying crossworlds was going to "kill" MKW. You invited this bullshit, and even SEGA did by making that ad. You've made your cake, now fucking eat it.
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>>722255535
And yet here we are talking about sales from a Famitsu general.
When are AI slop and master duel threads getting autosaged to /vg/ as well :)
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>>722255545
>So MKW is 66 without the Nintendo bonus?
>N-nintendo bonus
you guys spam a ign score and user score that proves that cope isn't real
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>>722255605
This is revenge!
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>game that has been on stores for some months now has sold more than a game that literally just came out

You fucking retard
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>>722255631
Famitsu isn't a general because it is a new piece of news every week. Just because it's on a set schedule it doesn't mean it's a general you fucking retard.
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>>722255751
You lost, segasnoy.
THis is our board.
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>>722255751
No, MKW world sold more during sonic's LAUNCH week. Launch week is always the highest week of sales. You might be retarded
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>>722255760
Cool, why don't you make it on it's actual board, /biz/, instead of here?
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>>722255831
Now that I've read closely you might be right
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>>722254374
You know? Kinda. They won't outsell Mario Kart but if Sonic Racing has a chance to sell the best than in any other platform, is on the Switch 2. Mario and Sonic's audiences overlap more than most fanboys of both sides would care to admit.
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>>722255368
I mean not necessarily. Transformed had non Sega characters at launch. You can definitely say that they started after the game went gold but it being Crossover stuff does not mean this couldn’t have worked out early in development
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>>722255882
Because it pertains to video games you goal post moving motherfucker. Video game news goes on this board all the time. Cope and seethe all you want, it makes sense to have those discussions here.
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>>722244582
>Sonic was only Mario's rival for ten years
That's an extremely generous estimation. Sonic was literally irrelevant compared to Mario after 1995.
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Palworld will win.
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>>722255751
Anon this is Mario Karts weekly sales. Please do not look at it’s JP total it will make you sad
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>>722255902
Same was true in the UK too, and Europe always leaned more SEGA than Nintendo. Sonic Crossworlds did NOT kill MKW
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Mrio FREAKING RAPED Cucknic!
This is revenge!
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>>722255714
>>722256146
cringe falseflag
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Sonic, you fucking lost!
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You mess with Mario, you get the freaking horns! XD!
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>>722256146
>Mario raped cucknic
Like always since the 90s.
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>>722245720
now post mario kart world's steam numbers
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>>722254912
You can turn these off tho
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>>722256308
This is revenge for the youtube ad!
Nobody insults Nintendo and gets away with it!
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>>722255439
These are good scores
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>>722256490
Mario gaped SOnics anus.
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>>722245273
Funny how this wasn’t (or isn’t the case) when Nintendo games flop.
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>>722243017
Said it once and will say it again the BEST selling of these modern Sonic Racing games is...

Team Sonic Racing

You know the WORST one. The one that also only had Sonic Characters. Most people don't care about the guest characters as racers so I don't see Sonic Racing Cross World's roster being impressive enough. And even if Sonic Racing Cross World is the best selling Sonic Racing game it's still not beating Mario Kart because Nintendo's brand is powerful with the retarded. And there's billions of retards on this Earth.
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Nintendo is my friend and cares about me.
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>>722247180
yes, but this doesn't count when it comes to metroid though
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>>722243017
Sonic just isn't as big an IP as Mario. Sega should have leaned more into its other IPs, like in Transformed.
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>>722255714
>>722256146
>>722256239
>>722256374
>>722256598
Fuck off, you're not fooling anyone.
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>>722256780
no, they are real. they actually act like this
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>>722256575
People keep citing TSR after the leak but keep forgetting that the number is total lifetime sales. It did not sale 3.5 million at launch, it slowly crawled up to that. We only know what TSR sold. We don't know what All-Star or Transformed sold in their lifetime so that's a dumb claim to be making.
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>>722243370
>pack in title
you realize you have to pay $50 extra right, they don't just give it for free with the console.
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>>722256826
God we need thread IDs so bad.
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>>722256646
You could add all the SEGA IPs and theyre not as big as Mario
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>>722257013
It was the only game on the console until DK...
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>>722257054
This!
Nintendo is a cultural phenomenon.
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>>722257351
Curious how there was a moment where you weren't posting right around the same time as >>722256826

Fuck off, falseflag.
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>>722257479
>three bad Sonic movies to equate one bad animated illumination Mario movie
It's still about $300k short
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>>722257479
You know she isn’t in charge right. Nintendo is arguably taking more control over NoA
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>>722243017
>Mario won
>Sonic couldn't even beat donkey kong
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>>722257529
meds
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>>722257608
Its arguably more since each Sonic movie was about 100 million a pop
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>>722257778
you couldn't be making yourself any more obvious you dumb motherfucker.
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>>722257674
Silent Hill is what really humiliates Sonic
A niche horror game beats a mascot racer
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>>722257479
NoA has been kinda toothless since Reggie left. The only power they have left is fucking up localizing, they haven't been able to green light projects of their own or block Japanese ones for awhile.
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>>722257924
>niche horror game
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>>722257924
Not only niche but one that has had a long string of bad games.
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>>722257961
Wow, congrats you switched to a different device. Notice how all the falseflags suddenly died right when you started responding to me? Curious
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>>722257924
you mean atelier that's a niche rpg and both versions outsold sonic
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>>722258073
bro, please, just take your meds man
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>Sonic is literally negative value
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>>722258129
>maybe if I say it again people won't notice
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>>722246746
I wonder what it says most of the time
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>>722257674
>>722258248
>Miku even gets NERFED within the shitty sonic game
She went back to sucking Mario's cock vs the flop hog.
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>>722258432
based chad mario
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>>722258432
This.
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>>722258432
This right here.
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>>722258248
The Fitness Boxing game Miku was in sold 14,128 in its first week
Sonic is officially less of a draw than Fitness Boxing
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>>722258432
>>722258656
>>722258658
>>722258740
We won so fucking hard, Mariogods!
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You should uninstall Mario Kart World!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGyeqjxDEMI
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>>722258839
>seethe
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Sonic has a serious problem. No one trusts sonicfags anymore. They say every new game is the best thing since sliced bread, and then people play it and realize it's shit. sonicfags have terrible tastes and everyone knows it.
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>>722243017
I mean... Sonic has never outsold Mario. The only ones mad are baiting.
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>>722257576
I'm pretty sure it will. People are misrepresenting TSR's numbers without context.

For comparison, Team Sonic Racing's Famitsu launch numbers were 3,339.
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>>722245875
It’s one thing to not be interested in CrossWorlds and prefer World but this dude is clearly just fucking butthurt that Sonic is getting more attention and positive reception over his precious Mario and the based commercial was actually able to back up the talk, some of his criticisms are nitpicks that don’t matter in a racing game and he’s cherry-picking the guest inclusions as if SEGA reps, Mega and Pac Man aren’t there.

>Mario has muh polish

means nothing if the game is fucking boring, forces an even more boring mechanic that no one likes and offers nothing of value.

His 3D stagnation video was decent atleast.
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>>722243115
>no one asked
You sonicfags have been trying to pick a fight with Mario Kart for months now. Now that you got BTFO'd you're pretending it didn't happen? You lost.
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Making this into a Mario vs Sonic thing just made me like Nintendo again, and is making me excuse Nintendo's high prices.
Sonic will never be acceptable to play or like. It will never be video games. It's an abortion of a franchsie. It's a terrorist franchise.
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>>722258938
This right here!
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>>722259056
>>It’s one thing to not be interested in CrossWorlds and prefer World but this dude is clearly just fucking butthurt that Sonic is getting more attention and positive reception over his precious Mario and the based commercial was actually able to back up the talk, some of his criticisms are nitpicks that don’t matter in a racing game and he’s cherry-picking the guest inclusions as if SEGA reps, Mega and Pac Man aren’t there.

>Back up the talk
>The entire sega cope commercial was PLAY ON OUR GAME NOT THERES
>lowest sales imaginable the following week
kek
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>>722259185
>>722259237
THIS RIGHT HERE
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>>722243017
Nobody said Sonic was gonna outsell Mario, he never does let alone in a country he isn’t popular in (Japan).

The principle is that SEGA objectively made the better racing game and delivered what people wanted from Nintendo.
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>>722259185
>>722259237
This. Sonic is fucking cancer.
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>>722259237
>>722259185
OMFG, i'm literally cumming in my panties!
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>>722259627
Sales = quality
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>>722259185
>>722259237
Hopefully after Sonic movie 4 and Frontiers 2 flops Shitnic can die off for good.
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>>722259798
Exactly
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>>722259627
>Nobody said Sonic was gonna outsell Mario
you faggots said that shit was going to kill MKW. It didn't It also did worse than MKW in the UK, and europe is far more likely to lean sonic than Japan.
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>>722248920
Fuck I miss Double Dash.
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>>722243017
>famitsu
Who gives a shit.
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>he's false flagging again
melty
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>>722260086
The game just came out retard, nothing’s beating Mario Kart regardless of quality.

Most people considered Crash Nitro Fueled to be better than 8 Deluxe and that sold 10 million compared to 8D’s 70+ million.
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>>722243017
Sonic is the only franchise allowed to rival Mario as a mascot gaming platform, being number 2 isnt all that bad.
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>>722260758
It's over, the game is dead.
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söynic sharties sisters...
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>>722243115
>All the seething tendies giving free (You)'s.
It's that easy, huh?
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>>722260758
>The game just came out retard
so? Launch sales are typically when the sales are the highest

>Most people considered Crash Nitro Fueled to be better than 8 Deluxe and that sold 10 million compared to 8D’s 70+ million
We're talking about whether or not sonic will kill MKW world. I don't care what "people think" (also, CTRfags are not "most people"). Sonicfags will ALWAYS claim sonic is better than Mario. It's meaningless drivel.
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>>722260758
ctr is objectively better than 8D honestly especially if you've already played 8 on wiiu.
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>>722253951
>critic reviews
are you fucking retarded? lmao
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>actual Crossworld thread straight up deleted now
EPIC
P
I
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>Shadow - 7,021
>Superstars - 3,615
>Frontiers - 26,067
>Team Sonic Racing - 3,339
>Forces - 4,686
>Lost World - 4,919

Transformed released 2 years after the world got it and didn't chart.

This seems above average of the usual Sonic games sales. What are we doom posting about?
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>mods deleted SRC thread
That's how you know Sonic actually won
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>>722261021
>mario seethe general deleted
based
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>>722261130
Game became console war fodder despite also being on Switch and in this chart selling best on there. Saw niggers trying to do it with digimon yesterday too.
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>>722261164
jannies are nintendo babies, everyone who didn't start browsing yesterday knows that
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>>722261009
Nigger it's literally in response to the faggot posting IGN reviews. If your going to push the IGN review cope, metacritic is fair game.
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>>722253951
Does this mean the Mario movie is awful and Sonic 3 is the best vidya movie of all time?
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>>722243462
Uhhh the 4chan party hats were yesterday anon
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>>722261130
This is a nintendo board and everyone else is a guest here.
Learn your fucking place.
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>>722261413
how's your transition going?
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uh oh
janny meltyyyy
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>>722261130
Sonicfags claimed crossworlds was going to be a new breakout game for sonic and kill MKW. Most people knew this was cope, but now we have the confirmation to what most people saw coming.
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>>722261401
Not like that.
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>>722245405
Do they care about player count?
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>>722261253
Literally no one in that thread was talking about MKW except the tendies who came barging in.
No one who isn't a Nintendo cultist actually cares about Mario and Nintendo games in general. Tendies themselves don't even care too since they never actaully talk about the games and only talk about sales. Heck I'd even say probably most tendies here don't actually own any Nintendo products if that dancing mario webm fag is any indication.
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>>722261401
>95 with 10,000+ ratings vs 2000
Mario won...
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>>722261130
Nintentrannies are obsessed with showing how well their games sell even though everyone already knows about the trillions of 30 year old basedcucks sad enough to buy 100$ cardboard. Even the janny trannnies are now mass deleting any crossworld thread on sight to force people into these shitty threads instead
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>>722261401
I don't give a shit about either movies, fuck off
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>>722261413
brother, your own personal MKW gameplay thread barely has any active discussion now.
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>>722261556
>if that dancing mario webm fag is any indication.
Kek, he's actually mindbroken by the still buying a Switch 2 anon
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This entire thread only proves that snoys and Segasnoys are the worst fanbases in gaming. Nintendo Derangement Syndrome is something else.
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>>722261593
I don't care as long as Sonic threads get deleted.
This is revenge!
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And there it is! Time to hang out with the subhuman shipping autists from /sthg/!
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>>722258000
I mean, it IS niche in Japan considering that most games after SH4 didn't do that well, and most SH games after Origins catered to the western audiences, why they sold badly until now.
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>>722261559
Sonic 3 has over 10k now too. That pic was taken a while ago
>>722261582
Seethe harder faggot.
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>>722261468
If you genuinely believed those post weren't in jest then you need to examine yourself.
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>>722243017
Migu won.

>>722261712
LMFAO
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>>722261712
Jannies are based for once.
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>>722256316
You got it, boss.
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>>722261786
I have made the mistake of posting in sonicfag threads before (not just crossworlds). Those fuckers are some of the most delusional on /v/
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>>722261698
>Had to rely on jannies
grim.
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>>722243017
A mario game selling well isn't surprising that being said Mario kart world sucks and most Nintendo fans just consume slop anyways.
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>>722261869
>segay cope edits
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>>722243017
>japan numbers
>switch edition
you tried tendie
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>>722261869
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>722261968
sonic sells the most on the switch
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>>722261869
NINTENSISTERS, OUR RESPONSE!?!?!?!?!???!?!??!??@?
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>>722261895
I won't lie, we have some genuine schizos on our side. This all stems from the freaks on /co/ that only jack off to the comics and refuse to touch the games. Be thankful Nintendo had a strict leash on licensing for the longest time and squashed any cancerous fan side communities from forming. I can't imagine how awful an alternate timeline would he where Mario got Sonic Comic Tier fans.
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>>722261869
MAMA MIA
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So we're not allowed to talk about a video game on a video game board?
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>>722243017
>Stomped that hard
Mario always will win. Sonic always will lose.
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>>722243017
Both games are for retards who don't know how to press the brakes button.
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>>722243017
NOOOOOOO THIS CAN'T BE
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>>722262284
Yes. Only shitty chatgpt threads like this are allowed.

Thank your jannies. And remember. The sharty didn't go far enough.
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>>722262034
Then why is the peak on steam higher than these numbers? Switch 1 is also dead
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>>722261869
Delete this RIGHT fucking now.
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>>722261712
Weird since the threads were allowed for the past week or so.
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I can't believe that ad really got tendies seething this hard
Kekarooo
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>>722261650
>notice guy posting for months he's buying an SW2
>still hasn't bought it
>me noticing this makes me mindbroken somehow
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>>722262606
Talk shit get hit, that's the name of the game mothafucka. The problem is that by making that ad, sega REALLY need the numbers to back up their tenacity. People are now just laughing at them because they clearly don't.
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>>722243017
>>722244253
>>722243919
>>722244384
>>722245273
I think you people are missing the point.
Sonic completely OUTSOLD, outDUSTED, absolutely DOMINATED the Switch 1 sales, while MKWashed has ZERO Switch one sales because everyone fucking hates it.
Who's laughing now, faggots? Hmmmmmm???
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>>722261825
More like cringe
It's abib sperging out because SRC isn't an Nintendo game. He'll have no issue with the famitsu generals or any other Nintendo game but SRC is somehow too much?
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>>722262752
>People are now just laughing at them because they clearly don't.
The voices in your head are not real ppl btw. I've almost only seen people say good things about this game.
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>ABIBI SAVE MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>722262909
Get out more from echo chambers.
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>>722262759
MKW isn't on the switch 1 you stupid fuck
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>>722262909
>people say good things about this game
No one trusts sonicfags
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>>722262759
>Crossworld peaks at 13,000 on Steam
>World peaks at ZERO on Steam
Holy fuck Mario bros...we got btfo.
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>>722262759
>Needed daddy Nintendo to help push sales on his new racing game
Sonicfags are lucky Nintendo actually tries to help him, or he would've been dead long ago
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JFC, both hardcore Ninteno/Mario fans and Sonic/Sega are being incredibly fucking stupid about all of this.

Sega went full-retard pricing this game at $70, it's as simple as that. Had they priced this game at $40-50 with the DLC season pass being $10-15, it would have sold significantly better. If they don't make another massive ad campaign for their inevitable sales cut, then there's a legitimate chance the game could die off before it receives the rest of its seasonal updates.

As for Mario Kart World - it is indeed a lazy, shit cashgrab game and it's pathetic to see Nintendo resort to sales to make up for the sad reality of Nintendo going full-corpo, and the quality of their IPs are now beginning to suffer as result. ToTK, Animal Crossing: NH, Fire Emblem Engage, Pikmin 4 and the latest Pokemon were also all complete shit. If Nintendo can't even have the gall to release a solid Mario Kart game after 8 years of alleged dev time, then I dread how terrible the next mainline Smash, Zelda and 3D Mario will be.

Lastly - nobody wants to pay $70 dollars for a Kart Racer, especially in this shit global economy. Nintendo managed to get away with it for MK World because of the bundle, but this recent news from Sega does NOT bode well for Kirby Air Riders. If DK Bonanza - a heavily-promoted mainline platformer and launch title is underperforming to the point where Nintendo had to release a demo AFTER its initial release - then this all but guarantees Air Riders is also going to underperform, if not flop at its $70 price tag.
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>>722262759
>segays are so completely assblasted and desperate they will just make up realities to cope
KEK, WE CAN'T STOP WINNING
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>>722262909
Nobody listens to opinions from Sonic fans at this point after decades of them excusing garbage. Sonix Team could make the best game ever and it wouldn't matter.
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>>722247175
>Genshin Impact truly is better than both Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom
Lmao, it is better yeah.
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I called it lmao

It's Wonder vs Superstars all over again
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>>722262759
>>722261869
NEITHER OF THESE ARE REAL
FUCK OFF AND STOP SHITTING UP THE BOARD SONIC KEKS
BUY A FUCKING AD
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>Hurr durr sonic no sold
>Even though Sonic has never sold in japan because japan doesn't like sonic anyway
SDS
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>>722248873
It's honestly kind of incredible in a way
>Can't run normal races online, you have to get lucky otherwise you lose two whole laps to a highway
>Vehicle customization is just gone and the only alternative is non-movable or scaleable stickers the size of a gnat's taint
>Several characters only get one costume to their names and mobs have to be unlocked via RNG
>Open world is incredibly empty and pointless to the point that even adding the items you found is a recent update to the game
>$80 and judging by Bananza any additional content will probably cost extra on top
If it didn't come with my Switch 2 I probably wouldn't have it at all. It's getting mogged by Sonic and then later this year Kirby Air Riders is going to cram the final nail in the coffin unless they start adding some free content and let people choose to just run courses normally outside of Knockout Tour. This thing is fucking anemic and any fun that could be had is dampened by stupid fucking design decisions
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>>722261401
>mario movie sold frozen tier blockbuster right off the bat
>sonic
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>>722247175
Bad example because even ignoring the fact that Genshin makes as more in a month than Nintendo does in an entire year, Genshin is still the better game.
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>>722263160
>Had they priced this game at $40-50 with the DLC season pass being $10-15, it would have sold significantly better.
This. $70+$30 for a season pass only ever works for super hyped normalfag games like Assassins Creed. Only the most dedicated fan of the series/kart racer lover will pay that much for a kart racer.
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>>722247175
Unironically it is though, yeah. Which saying something as that game's quality rapidly went to complete shit after the Sumeru update.
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>>722262759
We're reach levels of based retard we've never seen before... I must kneel out of respect.
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>>722248873
Likely not possible due to the open world and loading. The game already boots out slow racers if they get too far behind in an intermission.
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>>722263575
>$60
lol, more like $90 on the Switch 2 if you want the DLC as well.
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>>722263565
Is the Lion King Remake better than the original then?
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>>722261401
Sonic 3 is better than the Mario movie but the Mario movie is way better than Sonic 1 and 2.
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>>722259627
>Nobody said Sonic was gonna outsell Mario
History revisionism.
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>>722264094
Agreed, this is a pretty solid take.
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>>722264094
Where's Paul Blart and Knuckles fall on the scale?
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>>722264094
Nu-uh. The critic scores say otherwise. Sonic 1 and 2 also have better critic scores than that Illumination slop.
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Maybe if Mario had just invited his Smash friends over instead of cheapening them out for amiibo suits, more people would’ve like Kart World.
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There are currently EIGHT threads that are about or related to Mario.
There are two Sonic threads.
Jannies, KILL YOURSELVES
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>If I delete it again maybe people will actually stop liking sonic racing crossworlds
Fat chance abib. Sonic won and you lost. The more you delete the more you just prove you and mario's inferiority. If MKW actually won you and all other tendies would not be this mad.
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>>722264285
Honestly, it boggles my mind why Nintendo's still restricting the roster exclusively to Mario characters despite 8's immensely positive reaction towards its extended crossover cast. They should just turn Mario Kart into the next Smash Bros., sales would absolutely fucking skyrocket to high heaven as a result.
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Why was the sonic crossworlds thread just deleted?
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>>722262976
>tendies in charge of understanding humor
Autistic fanbase that can't handle any banter
Just call me Eric already
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Janitors, I need you to do something to my anus with your tongue
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>>722264614
Pretty sure the board is dominated by Nintendo jannies; any time I rightfully criticize (not shit-talk, just criticize) ToTK in a Zelda thread I get fucking banned for it. Probably happens to other people as well.
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>>722262759
Between you and us who's thread just got deleted? LOL Die sonix tranny
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Dear jannie. Just because there's a thread that actually wants to talk about video games doesn't give you the right to delete it.

Kindly. KILL YOURSELF
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>>722264642
I feel like I'm in the minority that doesn't want Mario Kart to be Smash Kart. I do think they should add other Nintendo characters, like ones from Luigi's Mansion or WarioWare, but I don't want to see Cloud or Rex. Same thing with Sonic honestly. I just wanna see Sega characters.
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>>722263415
Japanese Sonic Adventure had no problems selling 170K in its launch week on a poor selling console. Why can’t 3rd party Sonic games do the same?
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The Umafags keep avoiding the jannies. You should learn how to as well.
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>>722264682
Because the tendie mod seethes at people actually talking about video games, let alone video games he and other tendies perceive to be an affront to the almighty Nintendo.
It's why shitpost threads are allowed to reach bump limit but actual game discussion threads are deleted.
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>>722264924
The umafags got treated so bad that one uma drawfag had to literally go to the IRC to hash out a deal and stop jannies from deleting threads so much (It still happens but it's lesser so I guess it did work out)
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>>722264682
Because the Eric-spamming tendie who plagues this board is also a mod.
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>>722264642
When you start doing crossovers for the sake of doing crossovers it just doesn't feel as special as Smash.
That's why that didn't work for shit like Multiversus or this new Sonic game.
They just slapped some popular characters into the game and called it a day.

Smash actually feels like an event when someone gets in.
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>>722263160
>Lazy, shit cashgrab game
Fucking retarded take. The things people hate about mario kart world have nothing to do with how much content it has or how much effort was put into it. The game clearly has a lot of effort put into it. People just don't like nintendo forcing the intermissions online, which has nothing to do with "laziness"
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>>722264862
>Sonic Adventure
It's the Zelda OoT effect. The Sonic IP was still relevant in Japan back then, now it isn't anymore. That was the same case for Zelda in Japan as well, until BoTW changed made the IP popular in JP again.
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>>722263160
Pretty much this.
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>>722247175
>>722263575
>genshin "being free" with more cope lies
gacha impact drains wallets more than any game even with nintendo being a factor
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$70 is just too much for a video game and I love sonic crossworlds and think it’s better than MK world
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>>722264285
nah. the roster in mkw is fine(pic related). the open world gimmick drags the whole game down, but everyone already knows that, but whats more understated is the basic drifting and driving is worse than mk8. grinding and wall riding are cool but to get the most out of that you have to be a turbo autist who grinds the same TTs hundreds of times just to learn one trick specific to that one track.
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>>722264285
>>722264642
>>722264642
Smash kart fags are delusional. Especially after today.
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>>722265431
>the roster in mkw is fine(pic related).
As much as I want to creampie Daisy, I do think the roster is lacking a bit. I just wish they added more than just generic enemies.
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>>722265431
>nah. the roster in mkw is fine
lmao don't even have to read the rest to know you are delusional.
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>>722249340
? Just brake and let go of the acceleration. I’ve completed all the time trails on super sonic speed and that statement just isn’t true.
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>>722264285
>all that paid mute sonic dlc that won't be out for a year after crossworlds released while the game just dies in the meantime
Wow...Mario dodged a bullet
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>>722245165
Now post the metascore faggot
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>>722265186
>The game clearly has a lot of effort put into it.

Nah. Outside of a few select stages like Rainbow Road, the OST and maybe the wall-riding mechanics, it really doesn't. The bloated character select screen is some amateur game dev bullshit, the art style and graphics are foggy, diluted; muddy. And the open world as whole is a completely fucking empty waste of time. Had they taken some ideas from Simpsons Hit & Run, Crazy Taxi, Diddy Kong Racing etc to pad out the open world with interactable NPCs you talk to for quests, numerous other mini-game modes, boss battles, gang-turf wars with NPC enemy racers, the game could've been worth its $80 price tag, but in reality it's cash-grab slop and that really doesn't bode well for many of Nintendo's most popular IPs later down the line.
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>>722265932
I have spent more time on the single player content in MKW than literally any other mario kart. this is nothing but retarded cope. I'm not going to act like people don't have legitimate issues with the game, but calling it cheap slop is absolutely retarded.
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>>722265431
Outside of time trial the wall riding mechanics are pointless since people will just bag.
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>>722266112
Personally I wish they had a little bit more to do in the open world beyond the P switch challenges and Peach coins. I still think that character unlocks should have been tied to the open world via challenges.
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>>722265568
i'd take random sonic enemies over the paramount crossovers anyday desu. marios roster is the least of its problems
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>>722265764
The userscore is higher too though
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>>722266460
>sonicfag vs nds
you cannot trust user scores when it comes to culture war bullshit unfortunately.
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>>722243115
Sonic is fast but his sales are slow
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>>722264642
Because they were in their desperate era at the time, now they’re cocky enough to think Mario’s good enough on his own cast which would be true if not for the fact that they’re relying on fucking background creatures and generic obstacle mooks instead of actual characters from DKC, WarioWare and the RPGS.

We probably won’t get any new Sonic characters in CW post-base but Mega Man, Pac Man and the SEGA characters are more than enough to keep me interested.
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>>722266545
You cannot trust critic score either.
The closest thing you can trust in this day and age are steam reviews and even then those are also starting to become less trustworthy.
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>>722266545
>you can't trust user scores
>BUT PAID REVIEW SCORES? THAT'S TOTALLY LEGIT BTW, UNLESS THEY GIVE A BAD SCORE THEN THEY'RE JUST ANGRY THEY WEREN'T PAID
The people have spoken. MKWashed is garbage dookie butter, I'm afraid.
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>>722243017
Neither game is a good kart racer. There hasn't been a good Mario Kart since Super Circuit and the only good Sonic racing game is Sonic R.
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>>722247175
It is and that is not praise for Genshin.
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>>722267003
Bait used to be believable.
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>>722267270
I prefer racing games to have skill expression.
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>>722267662
Refer to here. >>722267270
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>>722266460
User scores for niche games are typically inflated.
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the weird "disney adult" nintendo fans are creepy
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>>722268061
Would you prefer the snoys who are hardcore fans of Playstation's branding?
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There is no good Sonic games, compared to Chadrio.
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>>722267003
Crossworlds is a legitimately good kart racer, though it still has its clear issues. Sound design & music are a mixed bag, and drifting takes some major getting-used to.
Mario Kart World could've been a good racer if not for its retarded game design decisions and the open world being a barren wasteland. But when it shines, it shines.
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>Sales cope
Eh that must be awful. Buying an expensive console only to have the main game suck. I've never seen so much purchase regret since the PS3
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>>722243115
Fpbp
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i love mario kart world its the best game in the franchise
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>>722261801
nintensharties would never have such great mods
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>>722246097
How accurate are these numbers? They always seem too high, especially for smaller games.
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>>722259185
>>722259993
>>722259372
>>722244253
>>722244709
>>722245506
>more sales = better game
why do tendies keep using this argument when pokemon automatically proves it to be a bullshit argument? MKW sold more because the brand has more recognition in its home country. but that doesn't change the fact that everyone agrees that MKW is fundamentally flawed and that SCR is objectively more fun and engaging.
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>sales = quality
holy fuck tendiebros... we really are disney now...
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Sword and Shield sold 26 million copies. Does that mean it's automatically a better game than Dragon Quest t 11 from that fact alone?
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>>722271570
who's everyone lmao
I could barely stomach the beta, it plays so much worse than 8DX, let alone World
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>>722272815
Do you speak for everyone else who played it?
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>>722268061
Autistic Sonicfans are super hot and attractive just look at CWC
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>>722272216
Yes
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>>722243115
>sega made a better game
See >>722243017
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>>722273152
No it doesn't. And you fucking know it.
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>>722273056
Both fan bases are fully of heavily creepy, autistic manchildren weirdos - the only difference is that Nintendo puts out quality games that lure in normies.

Though giveo-or-take Nintendo's current reputation among the public is collapsing, they aren't jumping into modern freemium and multiplat service to accommodate a new generation of kids, and their games are gradually getting worse and worse as the years go on, that may not be the case within the next 10 years.
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>>722273259
I wonder what platform those kids are playing Fortnite on... the answer is Switch Lite.
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>Sonicfags finally get something good for once
>Immediately get on their high horse and shitpost for months
>Sales end up being incredibly sluggish and they resort to the "sales don't actually matter" tactic
Lol
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>>722273056
CWC is also a tendie.
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>>722273259
>the only difference is that Nintendo puts out quality games
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>>722273405
Are you fucking stupid? None of us were expecting it to outsell Mario Kart. You have to be retarded to assume that's possible in Japan. We were only expecting it to sell well at all with how it's been reported to be a top seller here in the west.
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>>722273639
>moving goalposts this quickly
It's really hard to not laugh at you retarded faggots
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>>722266460
>userscore raid spam from people not verified to have played the game
SCWashed.
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Sega is nuts for trying to charge 70 bucks for this game, even Frontiers was 60.
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>>722273574
Did you read the rest of my post anon? I was implying that this argument used to be the case for Nintendo, but it's no longer valid anymore. Nintendo is treating many of their IPs like cash grab garbage right now and it shows through games like Mario Kart World.
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>>722274078
What "goalposts" are you fucking talking about? I've been in scr threads for a while and no one even said that it was going to kill mkw in sales in its home country. The overall discussion was how it was more fun to play. What don't you get about that? There was never an argument that SCR would sell more, just that it would be arguably more fun in general.
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>>722274078
Only retard here is you. Sonic has literally never been popular in Japan. Sonic vs Mario was only ever a thing in the west, even back in the day.
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>>722274078
Muh goalposts

Retard, not even the most delusional Sonicfag would EVER say Sonic sells in japan, we literally have 20 years of historical evidence proving otherwise
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>>722274332
NTA but been to the same threads and people were when seething about mkw, and those threads aren't the only places that delusion spread.
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>>722274332
>>722274482
>>722274596
There's people that literally said "muh crossplay" would make sonic sell more than mario. Don't revise history.
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Japan doesn't like Sonic, it's basically a franchise for Americans at this point.
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>>722243017
segasisters... not like this...
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>>722243462
Embarassing
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>>722253667
>just don't get the full game ok who cares
yikes
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>>722274734
>ignores all 3 replies
>invents new bullshit
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>>722274482
>>722274596
>ERM guys we were kidding it's not like there's 20 threads in the archive showing exactly the opposite
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>>722274741
>at this point
It has been basically that since day 1.
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>>722275116
Show me anyone saying Sonic was going to outsell Mario in Japan. I'll call them a retard for you anon, if that will make you feel better.
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>>722274741
This. Sonic will never sell well in Japan, and it's not due to the gameplay. Nips just don't like furries as lead characters unless if they're kawaii mascots like Hello Kitty.
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>>722274734
>people
You mean retards on Twitter? The whole argument for months was that MKW was going to make Crossworlds irrelevant by merely existing. And it failed to do that. Sales don't immediately change the fact that tendies think the game is a disappointing entry in the series.
>b-but it doesn't matter because it sold well
Pokemon sells like hotcakes but that doesn't mean the newer games are lackluster. It just means the IP still pulls consumers in.
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>sonicbros are backtracking all their trash talk and arrogance to pretend it never happened
MarioGODS win again.
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>>722275290
Why specifically in Japan it's not outselling anything anywhere, once again like I said goalposts have shifted because you delusional faggots believed your own astroturfed hype
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>>722275423
A real shame since early 90s Japanese Sonic was really cool. He's my favorite Sonic.
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>>722275448
why is she is sumg
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>>722275448
Again, where are you getting these claims that SCR was going to outsell MKW in japan?
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>>722275458
>Why specifically in Japan
That is literally what the thread is about you actual fucking retard.
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>>722243017
So now bundles don't count?
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>>722275440
No that is exactly what happened nobody gives a fuck about your UE kart clone.
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>>722275448
based
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It's stupid to fight.
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>>722275458
Because THAT'S WHAT OP FUCKING BROUGHT UP YOU BLIND FAGGOT MUTT. THIS WAS ABOUT JAPAN.
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>>722275610
Literal autism
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>>722274741
>>722275423
Sonic flopped to Mario in UK and West too, not just Japan.
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>>722275518
She's a huge brat who is always smug.
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>>722275458
>Why specifically in Japan it's not outselling anything anywhere
>literally too retarded to read the OP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyx3n3RWFLs
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>>722275661
No one in JAPAN cares about it.
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>>722247153
Nothing is on the switch 2, nintendo reffuses to give out dev kits
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>>722275761
Literal retard who can't read.
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>>722275771
Sonic started selling on that "weekly" chart for 3 days. It's also physical only
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>>722275790
Smug Duelist girls...
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>>722275737
It doesn't matter when it's happening globally you fucking braindead jeet. Japan is the only place posting the numbers. If you want to pretend it's selling do it in your containment thread for autistic Sonicfans jerking off to Cream the Rabbit getting fucked by Shadow while your self-insert Cucky sits in the corner
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>>722243370
Those figures are physical copies only and thr bundle gives you a code. So technically it's much, much worse than it looks.
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>>722275813
>I'm going to pretend it's selling everywhere else
>>722275923
Literal retard can't extrapolate the most common sense thing
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>>722248996
Because it's not the only racing game on the platforms it's available.
Because there are less religious Sonic fans than religious Mario fans
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>cuckshit out of nowhere
Here comes the melty.
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>>722246746
>32 years of nothing but mediocre at best and 06 at a regular
And they say that Pokefags are a cult.
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>>722248996
>If it’s better then why isn’t it selling more?
Because it's more fun? Isn't that the whole argument your god Reggie used?
>If the game isn't fun, why bother?
What if I'm not having fun with mkw?
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>>722276103
You didn't read the OP and fucked up. It's okay.
We're all anons here so we'll forget about it soon.
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>>722246746
To this day I am still baffled a man with this much autism failed to make Frontiers good.
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>>722276162
>Doesn't even know the series he's sucking off
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>>722275737
It's not outselling it in the UK either, one of Nintendo's weakest regions, so your list is growing rather thin.
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>>722243017
>Japan
>Physical only
Jannies need to permaban India.
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>>722276359
And what about the rest of the post Mr. Retard?
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>>722275946
>More cope already
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>>722276173
Both IPs are autism-cults. The difference is that one is making a gradual (albeit, shaky) comeback while the other is still stagnant in its garbage-slop state.
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>still pretending SCR is a flop
>when it's right behind umamusume on steam charts
>when it's in the top 5 on switch sales
>when the deluxe edition is a top seller on PSN
people will ignore these because it pokes a hole in their argument
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>>722276289
>'It's going to outsell MKW'
>It bombs like everybody normal knew it would
>ACTUALLY THEY DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY FOR JAPAN DURING THE LAUNCH WEEK DURING THE HOURS FOR MY ERP SESSION WITH A BIG THE CAT IMPERSONATOR
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Reminder that KWABga lost the CHADsole wars and now their champion SHITnics games are on my HEROES GODsole
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>>722245273
First week sale figures only confirm what we already know. That a shit load people got overhyped for the switch 2 and MKW when it first released. The judgement of people who literally did not know anything about how the game was actually going to turn out is pretty meaningless.
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>>722276654
>6k players on steam
>12k peak at launch
>already lost 50%
Looking like a global success
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>>722276680
Who fucking claimed it was going to outsell MKW? can you name any examples?
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>>722276680
Just read the OP next time you post in a 4chan thread so you don't make the same mistake again buddy. It's not that serious.
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Haha, we sure got those Sonicucks! Now to celebrate with our newly remade masterpiece, Mario Ga-
>pic related
UMMMMMMMMMM, MARIOSISSIES?????? WHY ISN'T THIS A MAJORITY LIKES ON OUR VIDEO!?!?!? HOW DO SEGAYSNOYCHUDS HAVE THIS MANY ACCOUNTS!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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>>722245273
?????????
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>>722276848
>>722276878
Kill yourself instead
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>>722276680
Okay buddy, but this is all cope to just hide the fact you didn't read the OP.
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>>722243017
Japs know Sonic is made for weirdos.
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uh oh, söynictroons meltie!
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>>722277019
I'm not a newfag so I already know it's the japanese physical sales being reported. It's just that it doesn't matter.
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>>722276880
>it's real
Lmao. Nintenfags just keep being buckbroken
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>youtube likes

not even (you) worthy
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>>722277104
Okay buddy, whatever you cope with
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Any time tendies use sales figures as an argument let them know about the state of pokemon
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>>722277134
Why is he s.oy facing
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>>722277143
We could already tell that because Sonic's le epic commercial got likes but no sales.
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>>722277176
Still using sales figures as an argument
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>>722250751
>Mario has 86 on metacritic and 87 on opencritic
81 and 82 respectively without the Nintendo Bonus.
>Sonic has 82 on metacritic and 83 on opencritic
Accurate scores.
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>>722277176
At this point, it's really the only thing left they use to defend their arguments anymore. Meanwhile it's becoming obvious that the quality & polish of their games has seen a noticeable decline within the last 5 years.
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>>722277224
Because he's the main character in one of the best selling games over the next 10 years
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>>722277241
So you admit sales don't mean = better game?
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>>722276547
I don't see anything that would suggest that Pokemon is making a comeback.
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>>722276727
CHADrio dominates SHITnic every time.
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>>722277176
Tendies can't defend pokemon
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>>722277176
>Talk about how and why A will outsell B
>it doesn't happen
>'Let me tell you why it doesn't matter now'
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>>722243017
A worthy fate for soulless crossover slop.
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>>722276880
And it'll still sell millions, faggot.
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>>722277310
I'll bite. Name a better monster catcher JRPG.
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>>722277310
Get off Nintendo's dick already.
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>>722277295
>Nintendo Bonus.
Cope.
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>>722277313
Yes. Sonic crossworlds doesn't have either sales or quality.
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>>722277409
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>>722277432
It's called making a polished game but Sonictroons wouldn't understand
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>>722277398
>I don't care if it's dogshit as long as it sells
MCU movies make money too but that doesn't make them masterpieces of cinema you slop eating pig.
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>>722277358
Yeah I can
>>722277413
No. Thanks for the offer.
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It's crazy how far Persona/Atlus has left Sonic behind.

Like, imagine if XC2 get better reviews and sales than Mario Odyssey.
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>>722277468
>>722277516
Sonicbros our narrative is crumbling...
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Why did half the playerbase for CrossWorlds shit themselves here instead of playing?
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>>722277468
>>722277516
>Let me pay 90$ for this, what a steal!
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>>722277596
Why aren't you playing Mario Kart? Or any Switch 2 game?
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>>722277516
>>722277468
>cherrypicking something that's very rare to happen to make a game look worse than it is.
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>>722243017
Furfag trash had to leech off of miku and still got raped, that's hilarious
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>>722277596
>me when I'm a lying projecting retard whose game is dying and my game is MKWashed
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>>722277710
>>cherrypicking something that's very rare to happen to make a game look worse than it is.
holy cope, the whole game looks straight out of a shitty mobile game
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Eric still trying to force this console war shit huh?
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>>722277746
>>me when I'm a lying projecting retard whose game is dying
Enough about SCWashed
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>>722277710
Reminds me of when people kept spamming the same 3 clips of World glitches.
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>>722277746
>whose game is dying
Sonic crossworlds...
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>>722277710
UEslop is prone to looking like shit and on top of that it's fucking Sonic of course it's going to suck ass.
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Cool thing of all of this shitshow is that even if CW somehow managed to outsell MKW it wouldn't change the fact that the latter is a much better game.
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>>722275824
>XanderJ
Had this video pop up on my feed. Literally had to browse his channel cause felt like a channel that just made hate videos. Surprised it's a dude who gets mostly 10k views outside of his "Mr.Beast does X" videos.
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>>722277704
I put 540ish hours in World, and only 220ish in 8 deluxe. Don't remember my time in 8u but it was shit so whatever
I'm just waiting for DLC.
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>>722277753
So how many more times has this happened? Once? Twice? Is the game 06-tier broken? If I posted MKW being glitchy does that mean it's a shit game?
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>>722277964
Sonic is bad and it doesn't sell
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>>722277826
>>722277881
>>722277753
https://x.com/Lore28_MK/status/1971656706892713989?t=DLoifNq-Ezf4a4CHrreiFQ&s=19
Defend this
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>>722277880
Fascinating. What are the numbers for MKWasteland?
>>722261869
Oh wait, IT'S FUCKING NOTHING! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL



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