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Why do Nintendo Americans hate this generation so much? The Wii and DS are pretty good. I only ever see them shitting on this generation.
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Because Zoomers can't accept that Mario Kart Wii is worse than it's predecessor and successor.
Brawl is worse than Melee and 4 (except story mode)
Prime 3 is worse than 1&2
Battle Revolution didn't have a story mode
Twilight Princess was a GC game and SS came too late
Mario Party 8&9 inferior to N64/GC/DS parties
Galaxy 1&2 were good tho
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>>722257310
because the wii is mostly known for wii fit and what was the worst zelda game before botw came along.
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I'm yurotrash and this is by far the worst vidya generation of all time
>brown and beige bloom ridden military shooter slop everywhere
>start of the domination of amerimutt devs, japs completely shit the bed
>nintendo go full retard with waggle and apps for soccer moms and nursery homes
>beginning of the sony moviegame template with unsharted and the last of jews
>asscreed and the ubisoft open world formula
>dark souls and the arrival of the fromtranny rollslop audience
>the hd twins were either grossly overpriced or had catastrophic failure rates
if you unironically like this generation you're responsible for the death of vidya
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>>722257758
There are so many good 7th generation games it's ridiculous. And everyone here was sucking off Demons Souls when it was new.
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>>722257310
Because we never really left 7th gen and modern gaming sucks.
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paved the way for the current major problems in games
>online only
>huge dependency on digital goods
>pay for online
>microtransactions
and so on
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>>722257310
>Why do Nintendo Americans hate this generation so much?
They do? That generation was fine.
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>>722258162
It paved the way, so it's better than 8th and 9th because they are worse.
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>>722257310
Because it's the gen Nintendo capitulated on the console wars and decided to create their own casual-friendly niche instead.
Some feel this "humiliation ritual" was worse than simply becoming third-party.
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>>722258332
Yes but the consumer let it happen by showing that they can get away with it. Immagine if people boycotted xbox when they started charging money for online. Remember, the PS3 did not require a payment to play online.
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>>722257310
Nintendo of America at the time shot down any game that wasnt casual waggle friendly. A ton of neat Wii games only got Japanese and Euro releases.
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>>722257731
That's sad, the Wii had some really good stuff like Red Steel 2 and /v/ loves No More Heroes.

>>722257758
>>brown and beige bloom ridden military shooter slop everywhere
There were plenty of games that weren't, and there are good games you're glossing over with this dated generalization.
>>start of the domination of amerimutt devs, japs completely shit the bed
That started in the 90s, Japan was still making great games even if you didn't play them.
>>nintendo go full retard with waggle and apps for soccer moms and nursery homes
You don't have to play Wii Fit, you can instead play good games like Ghost Squad.
>>beginning of the sony moviegame template with unsharted and the last of jews
Even still, there are good "moviegames" like uncharted and the last of us. It seems like you've never tried them.
>>asscreed and the ubisoft open world formula
Undeniably a bad thing.
>>dark souls and the arrival of the fromtranny rollslop audience
/v/ loved the game far and wide at the time, and it was considered a throw back title here that got rid of modern sensibilities with its own unique twists so as not to be retrograde.
>>the hd twins were either grossly overpriced or had catastrophic failure rates
By the end of the generation they were $200 and failure was completely solved.

All I'm seeing here is excuses to not play games.

>>722258647
That's a good reason to hate NoA (as if you needed any more) but those games still exist and can be played now without a problem.
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>>722258728
>That's a good reason to hate NoA (as if you needed any more) but those games still exist and can be played now without a problem
A lot of people are hacking wiis and pirating the libraries and rediscovering how good the library actually was compared to how it was retailed, sort of like a mini wii renaissance
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>>722259001
I think that's great. I'll always recommend games to people who take the time to explore the Wii library, while NoA dropped the ball and didn't prop up the great games on Wii there's so much to discover.
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>>722258591
The PS2 didn't require any payment to pay online and it was super shit. The games ran awful, you would constsntly disconnect, the lag zombie screen in Resident Evil Outbreak was seen more on the official servers than the fan servers. You didnt have a Playstation account, every game had their own account that you has to use the awful PS2 wrb browser to manage.

The original Xbox charged for online and was great and seemless basically resembles online on consoles now.

Maybe if Gaystation Poo wasn't super ass people wouldn't equate money with quality.
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>>722259568
>The original Xbox charged for online and was great and seemless basically resembles online on consoles now.
Gotta be honest it's better than what we have now. Even with the sub 100 players on Insignia every day if there's a game available joining up is incredibly smooth and playing is basically lagless despite being on such old consoles built for broadband in 2001.
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>>722257968
Even if there were good games, the standards were still dragged down massively by the fact that they became or were always console multiplats.
Nothing was designed for a good control scheme, it was all just PC games backported to a good 'nuff lowest common denominator console controller and that slowly caused the quality of games to drop as studios wanted that lowest common denominator to be the definitive experience.
You can easily see the decline in series like Crysis.
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>why are Americans
>why are tendies
>seventh gen bad or good??
The /v/ thread of all time! Wow.
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>>722259973
I completely disagree. The console shooter came into its own better than ever before This post simply reeks of envy.
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>>722259973
What? Focus on the games man.

>The argument:
7th gen bad.
>The reality:
No.
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>>722257310
This was by far the worst generation for Japanese games, the smaller ones all had to move to the DS and PSP because HD development was new and expensive, big publishers like Capcom were outsourcing their games and Nintendo were all in on casual pandering. Say what you want about modern Nintendo but things now are infinitely better than the Wii Music E3 presentation. That's not to say nothing good came out of the 7th gen but there were a lot of growing pains and I think the industry is in a much better place today.
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>>722262196
>This was by far the worst generation for Japanese games
No it was good. DS, PSP, PS3, Wii, and even 360 had titles of all size and scale. In fact it was so good that we're still regularly getting people begging for games from the generation to be ported forward or celebrating far and wide when they are ported forward.
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>>722262361
7th gen bad but we will suck off and remaster and remake the games until the end of time. Dark Souls is still talked about all the time. I find it so interesting.
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>>722257310
Because they couldn’t play all the cool grown up games like resident evil, GTA, call of duty, battlefield and yakuza on their overclocked trannycube with waddlepads
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>>722257310
brawl is better than smash 4. smash 4 is kind of the worst of all worlds, it excelled at nothing and has lots of flaws. comfortably the worst smash game they ever made
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>>722264096
>>722257716
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>>722264148
You should try to argue better, you're not convincing anyone with this laziness.
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>>722264283
did you play smash 4? I haven't actually heard anyone make any decent arguments for it. If you actually thought smash 4 wasn't the worst smash game and had some kind of reasoning for it I'd like to hear it. I doubt you do though
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I'm more bothered by how foolish I was with my purchases at times
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>>722257716
kys gamecube tranny. this is how you look
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>>722264574
I did, and I agree. I played both versions of Smash 4 and it's completely irredeemable, like almost all of that sad era for Nintendo. Smash 4 on handhelds was a joke and an obvious, desperate attempt to both double dip and ensure that smash 4 isn't an embarrassing sales failure while also demonstrating pure cowardice on Nintendo's end in their own product by failing to focus it as a console title like the previous installments and boost the sales of their flop box.
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>>722257310
360 and PS3 were the beggining of everything bad with gayming industry nowdays, and nintendo because they gave up in the power race
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>>722264892
based as fuck, cubies are worthless subhumans
too bad nusnoy is no different though
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>>722264892
Proving my point lmao
>>722265991
Smash 4 is the final distilled pure Smash experience.
>Speed between Melee and Brawl
>No tripping
>Custom moves for near limitless style variations (people only complain about Bayo when customs are off btw)
>Before giga roster bloat and excessive 3rd parties
>Final game with a traditonal All-Star mode
>Best Classic Mode final boss in the series with Master Core/Fortress
>Trophies instead of pngs
>Can actually play online vs. friends with 2 players per console (wtf Ultimate? why can't you do this?)
>Actual Event Matches, with varied objectives, unlike Spirits
>3DS has Smash Run
>I grant that Smash Tour, Wii U Classic mode (except for the phenomenal boss fight) and the Orders modes were meh
>Charizard has a full moveset
>Elec Man, Lakitu, Magnus, Saki Amamiya, and the GOAT Tingle assist trophies
>Miiverse Stage memes
>Orbital Gate Assault
>Woolly World
>The old shield parry system
>Mario still has his Mega Mario taunt from 64
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>>722258728
A sensible comment? On /v/?
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>>722257310
>still had full distinction between consoles and portables
>Sony still competing for portables
>free online on Nintendo and Playstation
>rollslop genre begins (we loved it back then, remember?)
>cawadoody 4 and gaylo 3 were unironically good
>nintendo still had soul, mainly showed on the DS side of the house
>every game that mattered had physical releases
>9th gen constantly remastering 7th gen games cause the bones are so good
>wired OEM 360 controllers are still the gold standard for use on PC

I'll admit, there was some bad:
>casualization of Nintendo. Wii is basically a wasted generation for core gamers
>terrible hardware failure early gen on 360 and PS3
>stupid gimmicks everywhere. wagglin', Kinect, PS Move, 3DTVs
>PC gaming was on life support, ports of console games were legendarily bad (GTA4)
>Terrible PC game clients. Games for Windows Live, Ubi Play, Rockstar Online
>consolization of PC franchises. COD, Elder Scrolls, Medal of Honor
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>>722271931
>casualization of Nintendo. Wii is basically a wasted generation for core gamers
Everything was casualized and the core gamer term was repurposed for yet another section of casuals. There was significantly more damage being done by the fact that everyone else was under the impression that they weren't casuals just because they weren't Nintendo.



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