Chapter 3 on Tactician now, finally need a healer. I turned my high faith dancer into a chemist with dance
first level monastery fight wasn't tested at all on tacticianwiegraf hits with hallowed sword first turn for 190 damage on 2-3 of your units no matter where you place themgood shit square
>>722267695git gud
>>722267036Game is called final fantasy tactics but relies on rpg stat slop cheese mechanics just like fire emblem. I hate jrpg trannies so fucking much it's unreal
Someone explain the lore to me. So St Ajora is basically a Jesus like figure right? And the church in the game is basically a religion based on him. So when people like Ovelia in the beginning of the story are praying, it’s because they’re religious and they believe the whole St Ajora propaganda right? So basically the default religion in this setting is based on a guy who made a pact with a demon and is secretly tying to destroy the world or something? That seems kinda dark when you think about it.
>>722268212AI bot trained on 4jeet brown people posts wrote this post
>>722268680Nah. I just am really disappointed in this game after seeing it being shilled for so long, unironically. Why play FFT when advance wars exists
>>722268293I think they adopted that religion from elsewhere. Like it took over their old worship, it's been a while.All this to say the church structure already existed and retrofit Ajora as a Saint because it was a popular figure/
what is the cutoff for Faith making people (generics and permanent story members) leave? 94, 95? I am at 92 and wonder if I should stop here
>>722268293it would be like if what we thought was Jesus was actually Lucifer and the church hid this knowledge from the public
I want to fuck a dancer
How hard would it be to mod the game to include enemy units likeWeigraf into your party?
>>72226921585 is a good stopping point, no warnings and you might not die in one hit to enemy magic. 80 is fine too. 94 is the cutoff.
>>72226921595 is when they start to leave
>>722268293The church existed before Ajora, but they were in their slump era and people were basically just faithful on autopilot. Meanwhile Ajora was a living being doing supposed miracles, and was killed for it. Then a calamitous tidal wave destroyed the place shortly after the killing, and a lot of survivors became even bigger worshipers. The whole time Ajora was a host body to Ultima, a lucavi that wants to bring his demons into this plane of existence. That requires a whole bunch of bloodshed though, so the church and its believers were in a death cult committed to human sacrifice to summon demons to take over our world. It's no wonder Orran got burned at the stake when he tried to reveal this in his papers, every powerful church member still alive would not be for long.
First time seriously playing. Should I always be moving to new jobs as they become available?I've been doing so because of OCD completion's sake but I can't tell if the later jobs are always necessarily "better". Like I get how a mime could in be concept but it's a massive investment and at the point I'm at a souped up White Mage feels like it would be more value to me.
>>722270246>Should I always be moving to new jobs as they become available?No but since it's your first time it's better if you try and take a look at most things available. If a unit works it works though. Early jobs are still good, like Black Mage and Monk are S tier.
>protect olan on the roof on tacticianthis nigga has galaxy stop and he can't even save himself
>>722270246no, and while stat growth isn't super important, it matters enough to keep physicals physical and mages mages (with dips for skills of course). Just look at each job for stuff you want>Samurai has that block skill for 700 which is god tier on melees>Agrias or Dragoons might want attack boost from Geo>melee attacks like knights, monks might want dual wield from ninjastuff like that. I don't learn a bunch of stuff I will never use with the exception of having Steal I can swap in on someone in a few fights
Delita is such a faggot. I wish there was a route where he dhied
>>722271059purityfags going to FREAK
>>722271059>protect roof rafa>on tacticiannot looking forward to it when i get there
>>722270510>no, and while stat growth isn't super important, it matters enough to keep physicals physical and mages mages (with dips for skills of course). Just look at each job for stuff you wantiirc Mime is the ONLY class in the game with magic growth at all
>>722270442>>722270510Okay, since it's my first time I guess I'll keep experimenting and if I notice a difficulty spike I can always change their job back and not worry too much about the JP put into jobs I'm not using.Was already keeping physicals as physicals and mages as mages. That seems like the only way to fuck things up experimenting.I guess I do know about just chucking rocks with everyone to grind JP, but I'm going to try to avoid doing that on a first playthrough.
Is it pretty much mandatory that you get JP boost and Focus from Squire if you want to take a reasonable amount of time learning skills? My Squires who did are thriving and the units who skipped barely know anything.
>>722271528It's a balance between HP, PA, SP and MP really
>>722271802i always get jp boost immediately and put it on everyonei don't think it's necessarily mandatory though
>>722271612You can chuck rocks if you know 5 rocks will net you a skill you're close to buying. Doing it for 2 hours to master Squire in the first chapter is where it get pointless.
>>722268293Its been a while, but I remember it not being super clear. I say this because the zodiac stones seem to react to the user, and are actually capable of doing good miracles if the user is pure.Having into account the legend of the zodiac braves, what I think actually happened was that Ajora and 11 companions, fought against the Lucavi, and sealed them into the stones. And then, at least Ajora himself, ended up being possed by the Lucavi he sealed, like the warrior from diablo 1.This is how Ajora is both a saint and a demon.Then a massive catastrophe struct. So massive that the world was plunged into darkness.On the time of Ajora, there were airships, but on FFT everyone is medieval. I theorize that Ajora was a victim.
>>722271802I do and then drop JP boost around act 2
>>722272145Not that anon but does that swing the balance of Magic versus Physical in favor of Physical since it can actually grow or is the utility of Magic still good given the range regardless of the fact it can't see any growth until way later?
>>722272384God now I want a prequel game set in Ajora’s time full of airships and magitech.
>>722272498black magic kinda falls off in act 3 in the OG and I'm finding that to be true on Tactician even moreBUTtime magics are god tierCalculator is still so busted I don't use itsummoner is economical and great (I combine this with time magic on one unit to cover my buffs/protections when needed)
>>722272281>Doing it for 2 hours to master Squire in the first chapter is where it get pointless.Okay, and it's that kind of play that results in the autism runs where people are insanely powerful in the Chapter 1.I'm starting to get some perspective on people's obsession with this game and probably why the Disgaea series exists.
>>722272498I don't completely understand your question. Super endgame casting spells gets a bit cumbersome but Magic in never nonviable. It also relies a bit less in stat growths since you can only get more MP and even that can become enough after a point. It relies more on Faith as far as unit stats go.
>>722272828I mean it is addicting slowly building a character for your team so I get it.
>>722272794Makes sense, Time Magic is always goated and without stat growth to back it up I could see Black Mage running into issues.>>722272837The other anon got the idea I was getting at with the viability of Black Mage without an increasing magic damage stat. I don't really understand Faith and if it's possible to reliably increase it. That might be part of the puzzle I'm missing.
>>722272828Autism you say?
>>722267036Are the changes in the remaster actually good or not?
>>722273272>I don't really understand Faith and if it's possible to reliably increase itIt is. Everybody gets stronger not just melee units. There are some big stat increases that come from gear so stacking MA leads to hilarious numbers for Magic as well. Back to the topic of Faith though, not ALL Magic uses Faith. Stuff like Geomancy or Talk Skill use MA but don't rely on faith at all.
>>722273272I still used one to butcher acts 1 and 2, but by 3 and 4 I just have better ways to deliver damage is all. It doesn't fall off by becoming bad or anything. It also doesn't help calculator obsoletes it (although you still need to learn flare from it)
>>722273364Jesus. Does the game ever get difficult enough to justify this or is it just pure overkill?
>>722273428i miss the death screams when characters died
>>722273272>>722273497oh, and BM is required for Calc anyways so it's a natural progression. It also makes the best chasis for the calc skills since the class itself is slow and terrible
>>722273364based, I was doing 30 damage in that fight lmao
>>722273428Ehh, I like some of the added dialogue I guess. I am completely indifferent towards VA and the rest is simple QoL stuff.
>save dumb bird in the woods>now have a ton of useless monsters because the dumb gooner keeps asexually reproducing
>>722269091Very funny post
>>722273364>>722273621same, around 30-45 damagejust after that fight I decide to get my shit together and level jobs
>>722272685FF12
>>722273636i too made a mistake
>>722274291I want to use a red one but losing a slot feels bad. I don't know what on earth I would bench for one
someone said last thread dancer was bad and that makes me laugh because dancer was already the way to clown on the depths but now it's even more true with the tactician changes
is this just a better tactics ogre
>>722275179different
>>722275258in waht way, tactics ogre felt cumbersome to play
AIM WORKS WITH GUNS I REPEAT AIM WORKS WITH GUNS GET YOUR CHEMIST-CHAN READY
>>722270246What the fuck is this? Was this added new for the port or something from mobile/WOTL? This was not a thing in PSX Greatest Hits FFT.
>>722275301it has less units but more customization for them
>>722275496wait really
>>722270246anyone else annoyed that rad became laddladd makes more sense for the setting but gafgarions hypeman is no more
>>722275496Why wouldn't it....you can aim a gun.
>steal super good item from npc you cant buy yet>diskass knight breaks it next battle
>>722275839iirc it didnt in the original
>>722276494It did
>>722275496What's the Aim meta? No way i'm buying all of them.
>>722276494it did on PSP but it sucked cock. It's been buffed although I don't know it's any good
>>722275783is there still a generic you can recruit named Dog or did they remove him in the wotl script?i liked Dog
I'm restarting because I over did it grinding in Act 2 and the fights weren't hard but boring by the time I was about to do the last mission.
>>7222766421-5 should be fine though i'd buy them in reverse cause big aims work better in the early game
>>722269230glad its not like that, haha!
>>722276815+20 with the passive of speed when hit is funny because the NPCs target you
Play Sword of Convallaria! Stop living in the past! There won't be a FFT sequel!https://youtu.be/qNTF7zQcGdg?si=RZi9l4k_SUFOD77_
>>722277142Well they go for damage and they see you charging. That reaction is insane though, one of my favorites.
>>722275914Kotposter...
>>722277201>f2pI will not play
>>722277201Can you fuck off?https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/text/%20PLAY%20SWORD%20OF%20CONVALLARIA/filter/text/
>>722273364cant you just priest nuke this guy with holy damage?
>>722277201No i'm playing ドラマチックロード 風の発端
>>722277469yes but holy was nerfedbut still yes
Summons feel quick/strong with speed and magic power stackingEarly chapter 3 and bahamut has huge range and easily deals 200 damage per enemy
>>72227789>Summons>speed
if you wanted to play this game, why didn't you play it sooner, and for no money? it looks better on an emulator so you don't have that excusenobody cares about balance changes other than autists who are already well familiar with the game, so that one goes out the window too
>>722277469>Just grind the strongest spell for the first bossLol
>>722278210its like... 500 points nigga,
Why is the ninja pointing at his dick
>>722278087
>>722278527try answering the question please
>>722271059
>please answer my question, what is 2+2 but you can't say 4 I am not trolling btw
>>722277891swiftspell works on summons so it's very nice
>play FFT as a kid>dancer with exposed erotic belly lead to a sexual awakeningPlease tell me I’m not the only one.
>>722277891Summons were always crazy strong I seriously question why they were buffed. Also one of the best classes to use with Mimes since no friendly fire.
>>722280037for me it is the geomancer.
>>722280037
I was dreading this fight on tactician, but then Ramza charmed the thief who charmed and she is now charming people and my dancerchemist slowed and blinded their entire teamkekMr. Suicide literally took no damage
can't wait to run around in circles
>>722280586Noooo you aren't supposed to play like that!>dancerchemistIt's not optimallll
>>722280874CCing the whole team in the first turns where my chemist isn't doing shit anyways and my summoner is trying to put haste on people sure feels pretty optimal to meI actually really like the tactician setting since rocket tag is toned down a bit and you have to protect your units from the severe assrape NPCs can now dish out
So what should i be working towards here? I feel like I kind of hit a dead end. been bouncing between ninja with brawler and monk with dual wield. Does anything ever do better than fists? This is my first time playing FFT.
>>722280586my olan keeps getting gangbanged before i can get to him
>>722281138>Does anything ever do better than fistsFor single target damage? Not really, maybe 2 endgame swords.
>>722281138kinda, I mean you can rock fists all game with no issue (dual wield passive) but dual swords is probably stronger, and there's good endgame equipment like the holy lance. I still don't like dragoon but I dipped into enough to get equip lances for later. Swordmages obviously want katanas, etc.
>>722281315I don't think I have ever done that fight so effortlessly and cleanly, just RNGriffic
>>722281138The only "flaw" to dual wield fists is only kill one guy at a time but you can easily beat everything in this game like that yeah
I found a list of all the names of the lucavi on the wiki. Apparently someone translated it from the some text in the made up ivalice alphabet. It includes lucavi not mentioned in the game. I think some of them were included in the FFXIV event as boses. It’s pretty neat.
>>722281516Wait dual wielding works on monks?
>>722281782if it works on bare handed ninjas...
>>722281782Shit uhhhhhhhhhh
>>722281782>>722281909it works on both. monks have better PA but ninjas have better speed. that that point it just depends on the map and if you're using teleport or movement +2. Since dudes can equip ribbons though ninja or dual wield knight with swords is probably the end game play.
>>722282085I think dragoon deserves consideration now since jump is more useful and covers a shitload of ground in a game where teleport now costs 3k, Holy Lance is still awesome, and as always I think martial arts falls off a cliff as a skill come late game (chakra, aurablast, etc)
>>722282313not being able to dual wield just makes me go ick. 2 art of wars, 2 chances of kill, 2 hits for people you cant 1 shot. Dragoon is doodoo.
can you get teleport from npc crystals?
>>722281138I level a lot as ninja and monk for speed and good growths, but endgame I usually run two melee, doing 3 this timeRamza - Squire+ (great skills all around)Generic - Will probably end as Knight for break, maybe Dragoon? Monk with DW and Ninja with Swords are also great, I just prefer break and armor to being flimsy (get the passive from samurai or auto potion, I use samurais shit because I have a chemist) Agrias (so doesn't really count for your question)
so is it true that the remaster was built from WoTL?
>>722283173yea
>>722277201has the single player mode gotten better? played at launch but it felt basic
ramza is one gay nigga
rapha fuels my rape fetish needs.
I wish i could reject a crystal after seeing theres no abilities for that character, or even better, see whats in the crystal before I even walk onto it at all.
So I'm about to play this for 1st time. Any tips? I've heard that grinding is bad as random enemies level with the player.
>>722284015You can scan every enemy unit's skills and gear at any time by hitting Start -> Units and then picking crystals with certain characters or just ignoring them, anon.
>>722284206>I've heard that grinding is bad as random enemies level with the player.Only random battles and like one story battle scale. It doesn't really matter.
>>722284206story battles dont scale with you and you can just avoid random encounters entirely so dont worry about overleveling. Just dont play on tactician if you dont want to worry about it at all.
>>722284326i dont think I can see what other jobs they have, some dudes randomly have chemist skills for example even though they dont have the item command. I dont think I can actually see other units other jobs.
what subjob do you guys give agrias
>>722284206I wouldn't worry too much. I cleared Ch.1 and my highest level character was 8 but since they dumped a level 10 guest character on my team suddenly the random encounters have level 11 and 12 but the guest character can't participate.Just don't be like that one guy who grinded to level 40 in chapter 1.
>>722285202Big tipper
>>722271059>>722278656>Can't get enough of chococunnyHe's LITERALLY me
Why the fuck can't MNK wear helmets?
>got 8 levels from wiegraf fight running around and buffingthey sure didn't touch that fighthis hallowed art still killed me in 2 hits
>>722285793on most boss fights i ended up power leveling by breaking the fuck out of their speed and power and just gangbanging them into the next generation.
>>722285783They need to be quick on their feet
I've spent 20 minutes trying to steal this bitch's armor and weapon to no avail while kiting and healing my squishies, bought 99 potions with my first paycheck and Chemist is hilariously fun.
>>722286638Raise your speed and make sure she doesn't have safeguard for Christ's sake
>>722286638in war of the lions i think they made a lot of boss gear unstealable.
>>722267036Did they make the gameplay fun in this version?
>>722286758>>722286760>equipped with the Mythril Sword, Bronze Shield, Barbut, Chainmail, and Shoulder CapeI've been yelling at my Thief with Ramza for a while, he's starting to get 2 turns in a row now.
>>722286917We fucking did it
>>722286638Is that Miluda? I didn't think she had any unique equipment.
>>722287005my preferred way to seal is Orator -> recruit, then take off their items and dump them
>fuck im really struggling with the wiegraf fight>i know ill swap to knight and stack defensive shit>wiegraf now one shots mehow the fuck does that work? why does going from 0 defensive shit on monk or ninja let me survive 1 hit, but stacking all the best plate gear makes me get one shot...
>>722287173you were probably stacking for evasion and lost a lot of HP from not just wearing the highest level equipment.
>>722287173idk post build comparisons
Did Tactics Ogre or FF Tactics have the better story? Better characters?
>>722287173If he hit you with Crush Punch (i forget what the WotL translation is), it has a chance to instant KO
>>722275506This was in the original FFT. You send units out on little missions and they come back with JP and sometimes itemsDon't you remember:>I had a good feeling!>This is the way!
>>722285470But did they balance her special job this time? It always came across too much like an RNGfest
>>722287475TO has the better storyFFT has a better class system and more fun jobs
>>722287728Both her and her brother skills respect elevation, you can make them more likely to hit if you pay attention to that
>>722267695it wasn't tested indeedOn people with a sever case of skill issue
Why does sexy lady turn into a weird skelly pope
>>722267695Not surprising. SE is a zombie company full of retards and has-beens.
>>722288032Because by destroying the body all you're left with is the personality
>>722288146gay
>>722287475tacitcs ogre would be better if it didnt have cachua and vice
>>722288386Hellspawn named Strawberry.
>>722288032Black Mage checking to see if that thing has a package?
>>722267036Okay, can anybody tell me why every unique gets cool weeb sword powers EXCEPT my character?
>>722288714Cause he is a man of the people and his unique slavedriver skills are more OP than any weeb powers
>>722288032Sexy lady was based on Alma's body, but you trashed it.
>>722288868I don't like his incel skills. I want to be the storm that is approaching.
On the topic of lacking sword skills, is Ramza in canon supposed to be a shitter?
>>722288976Too bad. Wait for Cid.
>>722289071Ramza canonically kicks everybody's shit in without having any sword skills. Everyone calls him way stronger than they expected.
>>722289071Sword skills are a result of PROMOTIONS within the system, Ramza doesn't get any because he is working outside the system. It is meant to contrast him with Delita, who goes from a Squire guest character with the same special skills as Ramza to a Holy Knight
>>722289117Cid isn't my character. I don't like it.
>>722288895>Alma has a nice ass under the huge dress
>>722289462Then suffer
Are there any whacky team comps to try out? Like a team full of mimes or calculators.
reading through the thread, most of you seem to not know this game has save scummingyou can load the auto save mid battle to influence-stealing-poaching-any attack with probability etc-treasure hunting-picking up crystals
>>722288714ramza's skills are OD
>>722289625why would I save scum? That sounds not fun to me, so I wont abuse that, and it doesnt impact my enjoyment of the game that it exists.
>>722289758faster manipulation of brave and faith to save time
>>722289625I know it does but I'm not a faggot
>>722281138Work on getting Attack Up if you didn't already get it from a crystal? Mana Shield? Unless you really wanna unlock all jobs, you're basically all set.
The materia blade+ on the volcano is pretty good. You can get it immediately on the start of CH4
>>722289975depends on what you consider "saving time" because you dont need to do it to beat the game, so you'd save more time in the long run not doing it.
I wish this game had dlc of the unique enemy units like Wiegraf and Zalbaag. I wonder if there would have been more hype if they included ways to get unique characters in the base game. Like making Celia and Lede recruitable by a mediator. Or a new story quest line that lets you save Miladoul’s brother or something like that.
Tactics Ogre is better just because you can control more than like 5 units in battle
>>722291337That's partially why it's worse, long drawn out fights are a boring slog, FFT fights are brief enough to keep it interesting
>>722289579
>>722291337I have tried and failed to complete both the SNES and Switch versions of TO it is just fucking boring only having like two actions per character
>>722291337What's the deal with its remaster, i see people shitting on it from time to time
>get all these uniques like agrias, orlando etc>bench them and keep using ramza and generics because they're well built enough Am I the only one?
>>722291853The truth is the unique units mostly suck because they don't have enough JP when you get them, especially Agrias.
>>722291853Nah same, the generics are my lil guys
>>722291853>>722292038Agrias is good and my wife i always keep her
>>722292141FuckingThree (3)MoveFat fuck low PA woman
>>722291687Everybody seems to have a different complaint, but here's mine.Too grindy and too easy at the same time.If you really want to take advantage off all the classes and features, you have to grind a lot.But at the same time, you can easily beat the whole game with an army of basic soldiers and a couple wizards and clerics (for the handful of enemies resistant against convetional attacks) with minimal grinding. And if you grind, then the easy game becames even easier. The actual game feels pointless and I just play for the plot.
>>722291853I only use female units and Ramza is basically female
>>722291534I agree but I also sometimes feel in the mood for a TO kind of fight. I like both games a lot.
>>722292291>Fat fuck low PA womankekI'll use her next time
>>722270246Later jobs are not inherently better. In fact many of the earliest jobs like Monk, Chemist and Black Mage are the top tier picks. But you will want to investigate what the later jobs have in terms of movement skills, reactions, supports, etc. For example, getting dual wield from Ninja is massive on most melee jobs like Monk.
>>722292038Agrias is might be actually the best unique because you get her relatively early in the game(mid game) thus giving you the opportunity to build her up.Most uniques join pretty much in the end.
>>722291687theres these stupid random card buffs that spawn throughout the map that give insane buffs and you cant really ignore them because the game is balanced around them
Do you think Ronnie regrets naming his imaginary room mate after Agrias?
I was going to use Agrias but then I realized a Red Chocobo does 2x the damage with no JP grinding needed and better range and movement
Thinking about picking this up. Been decades since I played it. I remember in my best crew having a bard casting in the back of the map and all physical guys with ignore height? And maybe sunken state? Seemed very op at the time iirc. Probably not meta I’m sure.
>>722294298I mean that's like 90% of classes in the game for the first 15 hours I don't know if "better than a Red Chocobo" is a fair metric
>>722292381>>722292563Alright I think I'll emulate the Saturn version.
>>722289657What did they mean by this?
>>722289657Oh my
>>722289420holy ludonarrativeunironically tho that's a cool insight
Just started this. Do I need to dick around for 3 turns to wait for defeated enemies to turn into chests and pick up that loot or does it not really matter? I'm not sure if I should keep the last enemy alive until I picked up everything.
>>722296461No, loot is horrible anyway. You can steal things if you scan enemies and find something cool.Crystals are better since they give abilities. Not worth waiting but if someone cryatalizes then it might be worth it to get some free shit.So basically don't bother too much.
>>722294298You can’t fuck a red chocobo though.
>>722296965
There's a number of things I like more in TOR, especially when it comes to the auto-mode and speedup auto-mode in this game is retarded and having to hold a button down the entire time for speedup is also retarded
Damn, I gotta say the dub is actually pretty damn good. First time in years that I played with a dub instead of JP voices.
>>722297828Why did they make it that way? These things are always a toggle wtf.
>>722299808I like some of then but not all
You have to use agrias to see the new dialogues
I once played through FFT with my friends such that each of us controlled a single character. Good time.
>Game introduces black mages>Keep wiping>Literally cannot winI swear they weren't this fucking retarded in the original. They just instant kill whatever they target and I can't get near them to kill them before they can cast.
>>722301495I'll just watch then on YT. It's not as if seeing them through my game screen makes any difference. Pretty lacking content for a game when I can claim I can experience it on YT but it's nice it's there...i guess.
>>722301532Time to dust out the archers...or well, your own mages. Faith vs faith.
>>722301676>or well, your own mages. Faith vs faith.The game hasn't given me enough fights to gain the job EXP to change to any mages yet.
>>722301532Everything can be brute forced with auto potion + Magick defense boost / defense boostAdd lifefont is you still have trouble
>>722301707You don't have a Chemist at level 2?
>>722272281It's faster to just have every character spam Accumulate. You can also use Ramza's Yell to increase speed on characters to keep their levels balanced while you grind. A knight with speed and/or power break makes sure the enemy never gets a turn. You get a satisfying hit for max damage to close out the fight, too.
>>722302189You completely missed the point.
naked old man found with two semen demons
>>722302104no I only healed when I needed to, which was barely ever so she was level 1.My archer managed to take care of the black mages.
>>722302371Brawler huh. Guess it makes sense if the devs expexted you to start stealing his shit lol. Though i don't think he ever just attacks.
>>722302507Knight mode right?
I can never get over Gaffgarion's portrait. Why is his head titled like that? It hurts my neck looking at.
>>722302629yeah. I'm not ballsy enough for tactician, especially remembering some PTSD fights later on.
>>722302630His visor probably slams shut if he tries to look forward and it doesn't seem easy to look out through.
>>722302678Tactician is kinda gay. You just cheese it harder. I'd much rather they bothered with a real new difficulty.
>>722267036I wish there was more balancing. Tactics was already a pretty bare bones experience by today’s standards and this didn’t elevate it at all. Most things other than just cutting through the opposition is a waste of a turn.I still feel no need to move on from Knights in mid chapter 2..the second class in the game.The problem with tactics is that it’s not feasible to change your party around for one fight. Too much effort to tear a guy down and start building him on another job path to get through a fight. In Triangle Strategy it was much more feasible to rotate characters out as needed. In unicorn overlord you can buy certain classes.This enables those games to say “no. Your full physical army won’t work here. You have the tools to make a new army”Tactics doesn’t give you the tools so most fights are able to be beat with the bare minimum.
>>722302797I was hoping they would’ve done more job class combos and add more units per battle, even if they were just weirder monsters like the first Hydra class
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD3h6-vnLFgs29XyvjtyGzlMQ0oviNHCr
Dungeon Meshi managaka drew fanart for the release but I guess it's not surprising.
>>722267695I just beat that mission. It wasn't tested at all because Wiegraf runs right into your team to be killed before the rest of his squad can do anything. When does tactician get difficult?
What is the lore behind Ivalice having ninjas samurais and yin yang mystics
>>722304964It's way in the future after 12 and Venat failed to stop horrible atrocities thanks to our plucky heroes. The cultures and developed techniques for those kinds of weapons/armor/skills continued through word of mouth and were rediscovered.
i burned through all my moneywhat's the best way to get some more
>>722305284bitcoin
>>722304627I hate SE so much. They could make gorillions on this beloved art style, or they would at least make a lot of people happy using it more often.
Okay someone mentioned dual wield works with monks. What about double hand? Is there anything else that will do more damage like attack boost instead of dual wield?
>fight boss of chapter 2>ramza does 150 damage >twice per roundKweh? I just played and did a bit of grinding. I was like lv 20..
>>722277201Kill yourself.
>>722281024CC does feel a lot more useful now, rend skills are nice to disarm special knights or rend power heavy infantry. Plate armor also feels a lot better to wear now since the enemy can dish out so much damage.
Is archer any good/viable now?
>>722307412Pretty good especially for early game but aim is still lmfao
>>722307412Haven't used them much but the enemy ones hit like a truck.
so how's ramza's cosmetic uniforms? does the third armor have any color changes? does his window portrait change colors?
There's a chance FFTA and FFTA2 could get voiced remasters as well.
>>722307723100%, SE pretty much only does remasters and remakes now.
>>722307815good, their new games suck.
War of the Lions both have Luso and Baltheir whereas Tactics 2 Has Vaan and Penelo. Are they time travelers or did they isekai'd into the future of Ivalice? Isn't Tactics far ahead of XII, Tactics Advance/ Advance 2? why didn't the 3DS version exist?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq29kpB-f0Q
>>722307891Tactics Advance 2 is set in the real Ivalice, though a different time period of course.Tactics Advance 1 was a fake Ivalice.
>>722307581I haven't gotten far enough for the other armors but his portrait and his clothes in things like the Warrior's Guild change with it.
>>722307412Once you get the longbow archers start to be good
did anyone get to chapter 4 yet? did the new trannyslation fix the queen reference?
modder gods figured out how to replace the audiohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fabKpMyxvJg
>>722307723FFTA2 had really fun jobs
I've played the original FFT on PS1. Is the remake worth the buy?
>>722289071Nigga Ramza is pretty much the second strongest FF protag. Those summon fights in FF16? Ramza is doing that without Ifrit
>>722307891>>722307958Jesus play the games. They are all different Ivalice with references
The errands stuff has to be some of the most idiotic design I've seen
I've never paid attention to art books before, does it take long for people to scan them? iirc the new FFT artbook came out yesterday.
that chocobo fight in the last chapter when you're leveled on tacticianlmaofix your game
>don't mind Shakespeare dialogue>don't give a shit about voiced cutscenesAny reason for me to check out the Enhanced version?
SE really used 2018 tier up-scaling on these textures, this vaseline smeared shit is unbelievable.
>>722317205>that chocobo fight in the last chapter when you're leveled on tacticianit's really bad in the original tooi was about LV60 party average and had to just reset until there was only one red chocobo
Is there any way to make my Archer not a weak piece of shit? I've been using squire as a sub job to spam focus in hopes it'll make her hit hard, but even with 3-4 focuses she hits like a wet noodle and is slow as fuck.
>>722317205I had to reset that fight around 6-7 times because whenever it spawned 3-5 Red Chocobo's it was over.
>>722312892no
>>722267695That always happened. You will kill him with your last two units on your first turn anyway, it's pretty ridiculous map.
>>722317205>she didn't have a dancer by that time
>>722270246No, the game has a pretty terrible design where you will waste an insane amount of time trying to "organically" explore what classes can do because JP grinding was so poorly conceived. You should just make your quick and dirty generics with low investment classes like black mage and then as you get more unique units have them replace generics until they're all gone. You can use a mediator to recruit enemies in advanced classes like ninja that take forever to unlock yourself.
>>722318869actual bows have a better damage formula than crossbowsbut it's still not worth using them
>>722318869give them an axe and use charge on shit
So did Alma and Ramza....you know?
after the library Weebgraff fight on Tactican I am thinking of rehauling my team. Shirahadori is no longer optional considering the one shots (lmao the fight before that with the lancer jumping for 300 damage), and my summoner isn't really pulling their weight anymore. I'm thinking of making her an alchemist with 'speed on damage' passive, aim, and GONS. Ramza is probably switching in calculator finally to replace the aoe damage. Anyone had their summoner pull their weight in Ch 4?
>>722318869Not really, archers are pretty weak in general.You could train some skills like Time Mage's swiftness for faster turns, but Aim is a shit skill anyway.You get better long range alternatives later anyway.
>tfw you haven't looked in the menu for a little bit
>>722319405Live? yeah
did you know you can farm magic guns on mount germinas?
Sorry but I went to sleep and never got to reply to this guy>>722313239CRT shaders exist
There are way too many special characters with their boring single sprite. True pros keep the original party.
Standard FF remaster i see.
>>722319506Play around with strengthen element and raise faith as much as you can
>>722321205my faith is 94
Anyone else feel bad for Wiegraf? He seems like a decent reasonable guy instead of just being comically evil. At least at the start of the story. Then he ends up being possessed by a demon out of desperation for power and revenge. I feel like he’s probably more inserting than most jrpg villains.
anyone know if there's a way to unlock Ramza's alternate outfit colors? i didn't pay 80 bux but they look pretty cool
>>722321589Then all that's left is strengthen element and MA UP passive.
Tricking the AI is fun
>>722322485Funniest FFT vid I've ever seen
>>722291853I like to recruit 2 males and 2 females at the start and just go through the game with them. The holy knight jobs seemed op when I was a kid and didn't know anything about the game, but once you actually know how to build characters you can easily make generics stronger than them.That said, there's new dialogue with the named characters in this version, so you might want to bring them to certain battles just for the sake of hearing those.
>>722322471eh, turns out Aim 20+passive for speed when damage+gun= damage so that's what that character will be doing from now on
This might end up with a larger modding community than TOR, but I hope those guys working on their overhauls for Tactics Ogre don't drop it for this and actually see it through to the end, or even collaborate on a single mod instead of five different overhauls.
>>722321734Yeah, he's the honorable guy that had to eat so much shit you can't blame him for reaching for anything. Ramza killed his sister and he has no way of knowing the circumstances and it probably wouldn't make a difference anyway. Wiegraf and Milleuda, Delita and Tietra, and Ramza and Alma are all supposed to be parallels, and it's not a morality tale where Ramza "deserved" to get Alma back any more than the other two did their sisters. He was just lucky. I guess Rafa and Malak are another brother/sister pair and Rafa gets Malak back, also basically by luck.
>autistically jp grind to unlock all my favourite jobs first>now i'm like level 30 and i havent even reached the dorter fight yet
>>722322485reminds me of my time playing tera online, I'd always charge in going big or going home, then dieI was always either the first one dead or I would kill everyone if they were foolish enough to let me live...
>>722322691try it with a melee weapon (you want the hardest hit, so 2hander) It does more damage than any holy sword ability lmao
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Do you need more than one of the same monster in your party to breed them? I invited a random chocobo i found while i was leveling orator, but it hasn't produced any eggs yet.
>>722302189I do this when making a calc, one battle in deep water where the last enemy can't get to you and just get the calc to five turns in a row.
>>722322691Oh you have a magic gun. Try something for me I want to see if it still works.With a magic gun, use the Knight's Break X skill to aim for equipment the enemy doesn't have. So for example Break Shield on a Chocobo or Break Armor on an enemy Monk. When you are into the screen that shows predicted damage, back out and choose the same command. Repeat entering that screen and backing out. Does the damage increase?
>>722322825The TO modding community is literaly one guy + whoever overlaps from the FFT community lol
>>722322994Eh, the game isn't exactly hard anyway.Aside the difficulty spikes on maps like Dorter on chapter 1 and DRAW YOUR FUCKING SWORD RAMZA, there's rarely any filters.
>>722322837Meliadoul and Islud too. Game is full of it.
>>722323592No
>>722322691How much did they buff Aim+20? That shit never landed in the original. What is its charge speed now?
>>722323735Yeah I just wanted to live out my childhood fantasies of having all the op job combinations now that i'm not a clueless kid with zero knowledge of the game. I'll have to hit up the first level down trap i find to keep the story difficulty somewhat engaging.
I am pleased by jump+thief I wanted someone to use the Holy Lance later so I figured I'd get the gay jump leveling out of the way in end of chap 3>>722324015nta and I don't know exact numbers, but it goes off fairly fast, and if you get hit with that charge passive it goes off instantly+10 and the others are really good now since they're all fast and you can just haste/play off the timeline and target the last doucher to move
If you try to just directly win every battle in FFT in the reasonable strategy game way (as in, you try to kill as many enemies per turn as you can without taking unrecoverable risks) you're going to be 15 or more levels below midgame main quest battles. What a damn cracked game. I was expecting way more of an overhaul in game design. Things like brave and faith grinding weren't touched even though it's just a plain awful mechanic to interact with.
>>722324208Did they change how charge works? It wasn't based on a unit's speed stat at all.
>>722324323I'm sure they know that hence the changes in TO Reborn, but they couldn't make changes like that here or the crying would've been unreal
Tactician mode
>>722324364no, they just buffed how fast it goes off and it does work with that passive that makes your speed go up when you get hit, supposedlyI am testing it right now but I don't have that passive yet Even +5 is good damage, non-magic gun atm
>>722323702I think TOR is a different community of people, players who already loved the game stuck with the PSP version. But yeah it's a 99% overlap, so anyone working on TOR mods would abandon it to start new projects in FFT.
>>722324628I don't see how it would interact with the speed passive unless they changed the formula to be more like jump.What prevents you from getting aim+20 as your first skill and one shotting everyone early on? iiirc it wasn't expensive.
>>722321867halp
>>722322825the POR mod looks very promising, i hope the guy behind it can get it done eventually. as far as the FFT modding community, the discord is extremely active and since they found out the game has a similar base to ff16, they're way ahead of schedule when it comes to developing tools. the mod loader is set to come out today, i think.
>>722277201Based>>722277394 >>722283278Spirals of destiny is pretty fun, especially the newest one. But yeah the gacha is lame. They should have just went with making it single player.>>722306528FFT art style should of been pixalated like Sword of Convallaria
cloud already has shirahadori when he joins you
Time to powerlevel
doesnt dancer scale with brave instead of faith? id figure dancers want low faith so they take less from spells.
>>722326750No seriously, GTFO.
How do I make dancers good? The dance that inflicts status seems to have a low hit rate. The dance that damages does little damage. How do you use this class?
>>722327480You don't.
>>722327480it rolls each status at 20%, individual. That's a lot of fucking rolls. If you're not landing a bunch every fight you're unlucky as hell.Slow works on bosses, too.
>>722327480it's an RNG unityou just let it dance in the corner. the best skills are nameless dance and slow dancedance combos well with mime
>>722324628so all it does it make the enemies beeline you so you proc it like 3-4 times in a rowOn tactician, that also means you die so not what I want in a reaction abilityAim is great on a gun mage but aim +20 was a bit of a waste of JP, but oh well. I think you'll only be using +1-10 as you need to win the turn order battle When I get elemental guns her damage is going to be unreal because she was a summoner/BM all game and already has magic up and high faith from Ramza spam
>>722267036such small upgrade isn't worth putting another 200h into it desu, I might try unicorn overlord on the emulator instead. the best thing about this release is discovering some nice doujins with agrias.
>>7222786051 i dint have a playstation 1 because young and poor ,2 didnt want to buy a psp because i had a 3ds.gdjsa
How do I know when a dragoon will land from jumping? It doesn't show up on the timeline the way it does when you cast magic, so it's hard to tell if the unit you're attacking will move or not.
Listening to the JP dub makes me feel emotional bros...
>>722331073jp is not a dub when its a japanese game
Is Tactician mode actually hard? Has anyone done deep dungeon with it yet, how was it?
>>722273428It's basically just "improved" graphics and full voice acting. Some of the UI changes are really nice though like being able to see the turn order without digging through submenus.
call me stupid but why are people on reddit STILL misinformation posting and saying that developers lost the "source code" and this game is built from scratch when it was proven that this is built upon WoL?
>>722332569it's apparently built off all existing versions of the game, there's even some mobile version shit in the code
>>722332676why are final fantasy fans such shitmunchers
>>722332879you can keep seething all you want, people who actually enjoy video games are having fun with it. modders are making crazy fast strides in cracking the game open too, so more FFT kino is inevitable.
>>722333234see
I'm amazed I played FFT so many times and I somehow never even tried Aim/Charge with a gun (mainly because I wrote off archers permanently the first time I played it). How does it work?
>>722331431If you don't grind some missions can be quite a challengeI got to chapter 3 and decided to get some of my classes up because I had to retry missions constantly due to 1-2 shots
>>722331431>Is Tactician mode actually hard?No, not really. It's nowhere near as challenging as FFT V1.3 (or less famous "hard modes" like Cerabow's)>you deal 30% less damage>enemies deal 20% more damageAnd that's the only major one. Enemy generics in Chapter 3 and 4 story missions get extra stats (like higher than usual speed, by 2-3 points) and most unique NPCs get more HP (templars hit like 900HP, Elmdor's assassins have like 600HP, Lucavi get like double the amount of HP).Don't think minor class changes are exclusive to Tactician (like JP cost change, CTR changes for spells, etc.), it's probably global changes.In general - Demi and Lich spam is even better now because with 30% damage reduction (that still applies to % damage like abovementioned spells) it's not one of the best but THE best way to kill bosses now.
What I like about tactician is that you are encouraged to use status effects more. Beowulf is top tier because of break and chicken
>>722326750>FFT art style should of been pixalated like Sword of ConvallariaAgreed. Visually, the picture looks blurry, and the models look like they came from Final Fantasy remasters made for mobile phones. This happens when one of the directors for your game is a literal who woman who used to make gaming websites. Furthermore, they left out a huge amount of content from the PSP version and made the laziest hard mode possible. A handy person with Cheat Engine can make better scripts than a multi-billion dollar company, please understand.Also I found the single-player story to be sincere and comfy. The game lacks difficulty, which is the only issue with the single-player mode so far in my book.
>>722334820>Also I found the single-player story to be sincere and comfy. The game lacks difficulty, which is the only issue with the single-player mode so far in my book.I mean SoC here.
>>722334820>>722334959Which part of 'Fuck off with a shitty gacha' do you not comprehend?
>>722335034Fuck off, off-topic shitter.
>>722335157Your insulting gacha is not on-topic, retard.
>>722335218Comparing any video game to Tactics is on-topic, retard. Damn, they are not sending their best.
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