I saw the credit rolls after killing the silk mother who was super easy by the way, but I don't wanna waste my time. I use boss retry. Infinite jump, where you fall in the spikes and have to run all the way back, I'll even use invincibility beause there's no game that punishes you this much for falling while learning platforming sequences. This game requires mods. I do enjoy the gauntlets and boss fights. But I don't want any more vignette, blind corridors and falling into spikes because you can't see ahead of you. I'll use infinite money and infinite shards too if I have to. I have PTSD from WoW, zero tolerance for this shit
Filtered
Why do people seethe so hard about the Act 3 parkour to the top of the cradle?
>>722277667no act 3 isn't worth itit has a couple of cool bosses but also some shit ones and not enough new areas, abilities or challenges to justify the hassle
>>722278063>it has a couple of cool bosses but also some shit onesLiterally the whole game.
>>722277968The timed abyss escape sequence was way more annoying, the surface platforming sequence at least lets go at your own pace, and you can even get unlimited healing by farming silk from the centipedes.
>>722278217this is true but at least the rest of the game has a lot of stuff to discover, new areas, towns, tools etcact 3 has very little new things, just recycling zones you've already explored with le ebin black tendrils everywhere and the occasional spot to use your new superjump that rarely leads to anything interesting
you didnt beat the game
>>722277667Act 3 is worth it for the bosses but as a cohesive experience, it falls apart and generally is a let down for the promise of the Void/Abyss yet again
I don't get why everyone is crying at act 3the high hall gauntlet is the hardest thing in the game, so if you beat that, it's smooth sailing from there on out
>>722277667>This game requires mods. I do enjoy the gauntlets and boss fights. But I don't want any more vignette, blind corridors and falling into spikes because you can't see ahead of you. I'll use infinite money and infinite shards too if I have to. I have PTSD from WoW, zero tolerance for this shitBruh, how bad are you at the game? You don't even need infinite money considering act 3 give you craw furniture and those fucks give free shards and rosaries everytime you visit your bell house. It also unlocks fast travel.
>>722279101>the high hall gauntlet is the hardest thing in the gameno it isn't lmao why do mongoloids get filtered by that
>>722277968>Why do people seethe so hard about the Act 3People literally got filtered by Hunter's March in act 1You really shouldn't pay shitters any mind
>>722279101>the high hall gauntlet is the hardest thing in the gameLolLmao, even
>>722279737To be fair Hunter's March was a spike in difficulty. There was no proper bench for the parkour and the new standard pogo is more difficult to use than the one of the first game.I actually enjoyed the area.
>>722279101Ant queen goddess is by far the most difficult boss in the gamehttps://youtu.be/56oo-CvG6Gk?list=RD56oo-CvG6Gk
this is a bait
I'm reluctant to go and play this for some reason. Can you guys recommend some better game
>>722280209First time I've ever seen someone use the "Take damage and leave a copy that deals damage" tool
this game requires mods
>>722280384imagine playing on a Switch "2"
>>722280435i cant even imagine, i would quit the game so fast
>>722280298It's 20 dollarsIf you like hard games play it if you don't stay away
>>722280209She's not difficult overall, it's just the no-warning jump that can fuck things up.And then there's the 3rd phase with no discernable pause between attacks.
>>722280187>the new standard pogo is more difficult to use than the one of the first game.no it's not. the people getting filtered are trying to pogo instantly after a bounce as if the level design is set up for the platforming to be automatic.>durr the devs need to patch and move some bounce points slightly because i keep missing and it's unforgivingalmost as if YOU are supposed to move slightly after each bounce. Hollow Knight demanded the same thing from you. the bounce made you go straight fucking up, there wasn't the slightest automatic movement to the next bounce point. Silksong's pogo is easier if anything.
Im in Act 2 and so far it seems waaay longer to complete than Act 1, how long is Act 3 considering I even got the achievement for unlocking all the bells fast travel points
>>722280728Act 3 is the shortest act assuming you explored the map enough.
>>722277667No. Act is total dogshit but bosses are cool. Sadly some of them are locked behind gauntlet trash. I thought Act 3 will be boss rush kino but anons warned me. They were right.
>>722280209I completely shit on her in two tries with the architect crest>y-yuo didn't b-beat the gaymoh but I did
>>722280435I got the true ending on switch 2, imagine being a third worlder having to cheat on his toaster
I like how double jump is completely optional if you dont care getting true ending
>>722279493>craw furnitureWhat?
>>722277667Can we have ONE Silksong thread that doesn't start with a dogshit bait OP?
>>722280963>toasteryour fisher price toy would melt from proximity to my GPU
>>722281050Being forced to double jump before floating is a pain in the ass. Took me ages to get used to.
>>722280893>hear all about how architect tool spam means you didn't beat the game>karmelita keeps kicking my ass >decide to try it>architect's moveset (especially the pogo) is so awful that i die to her minion ants half the time before even reaching the boss>even when i do reach the boss, she doesn't instantly die to le overpowered poison cogflies/tacks/spike traps, just goes to phase 2 and kills me instantly>oh, and architect's crafting gimmick is bugged in the dream world, not only does it not works, it fucks up your tools in the real world too when you use itin the end i changed back to a real crest (wanderer) and beat her in like 5 tries and then ragequit because i died in coral tower
>>722281106>he doesn't knowreach act 3
>>722277667You didn't beat the game + I'm not reading your post. Killing yourself is the most worthwhile thing you could possibly do.
>>722277667> PTSD from WoWwut?
>>722281208bwahahahaha another consolefag
>>722281181I'm in act 3
>>722281145>saaaar I have big GPU very power I am impressed
>>722281145Based.>>722281423Brown tendie.
>>722277667You didn't beat the game
>>722281291Nah, my last console was the PS2. I just grew up in a first world household with a father present, so cheating and avoiding challenges are just things that I'm man enough to never do. You wouldn't get it.
>>722280298BalatroSpelunk 1/2CelesteDownwellTormentor x Punisher Peaks of Yore (aside from the final mountain, unless you're into that type of stuff)
>Celeste
>>722279101True, but the other repliers are subhumans that beated it with double jump, cogflys, 3 times upgraded nails and things like that so they never really played the game.
>>722280726>no it's not. the people getting filtered are trying to pogo instantly after a bounce as if the level design is set up for the platforming to be automatic.it is though. Unless I missed something with the ~30 hours I spent with the game there isn't a reliable way to change direction in the air unless Hornet just decides to do the flip or whatever instead of the normal jump after pogo. This makes it so that in platforming it isn't as easy to do the pogos back and forth from left to right as it is with a straight downward one. In combat the diagonal pogo makes positioning all the more more important which thus makes combat more difficult, this isn't necessarily a downside except that some enemies don't feel designed around it. Like some of the enemies in the Bilewater gauntlet for example can pop out of the water at random heights which can really fuck up your pogo.
Why is act 3 requirement tied to a literal bulletin board is beyond me
So they purposely made it hard to use tools by hardcoding it to up+button or down+button. Just to ensure I accidentally use tools when I'm trying to magic in midair or vice versa. Why not map it to the d-pad ffs. There is no other game with retarded decisions such us this. Its sheer trolling
>>722280209Literally just drop a few thumbtacks and watch her kill herself.
>>722282457i only press what i intend to press and therefore never struggled with this. considering you use the analog sticks to move in a platformer i bet you're a retarded dadgamer with skill issue.
kek>>722282134so that you don't miss content after the world goes through a literal earth shattering change, retard
>>722279101Nah, Karmelita and LL are far worse.
>>722282457No retard. Castlevania Harmony of despair did that. Same thing with the divekick. Maybe you shoulda spent these last 7 years playing your second metroidvania and the Castlevania series, instead of shitposting about GAY BEARS
>>722281692It's actually impressive that managed to list all garbage
Did they make the act 2 an ending for all the people who only say they beat the game because act 3 is jmpossible for alot of folks?
>>722277968It’s slightly annoying because it’s just the same jump a dozen times.
>>722277667You quite literally didn't beat the game if you don't do act 3.
The pale king would’ve done quests on the bulletin board. Anyone hating the quests is a weaverfag.
>>722282832Act 3 isn’t even that hard except for LL but only if you didn’t get every mask. Hardest part was the flea circus shit for my nail upgrade.
>>722282806Oh sorry, was I supposed to put some slop like Assassin's Creed and Elden Ring?
>>722280364Once you get good you actually struggle to figure out what blue charms you want to use. So many are only useful if you take a ton of damage or take no damage. If you are in the middle of the skill range, it’s difficult to come up with a build.
>>722282621besides the last one all the negative points are valid
>>722282457Funko Knight fans play their second metroidvania challenge : Impossible
>>722281692>Tormentor x Punisherthis one seems based but I can't find it anywhere
>>722283535on steam it uses an emoji as the X so maybe just search up tormentor first
>>722283229>too punishing for the rewardslearn to put effort into getting good at a difficult game or don't play it at all>unrewarding explorationthe exploration rewards you well enough, and even if you're disappointed because the 5 second detour got you a rosary string, the fun is in overcoming the obstacle. it's called intrinsic motivation, something fortnite zoomers don't understand i guess>poor economy balancein my 60 hours i literally did not have to farm a single time, nor did i ever use the rosary items i got save for a couple of the 120 ones, and i bought everything and got 100%. i can open my game right now and show the thousand rosaries i have on top of every single rosary item i've collected. you do not have to buy everything as soon as you see it or complete the area the vendor is in. come back later>thinly spread progressionthis doesn't even mean anything
>>722284078>worthless fromtranny driveldidn't read lol
I liked Act 3. It has my favorite area and second favorite boss.>>722280209I found Lost Lace to be a lot harder.
>>722284165concession accepted. next time you can just admit you got filtered and you wouldn't have to embarrass yourself like this as much
>concession acceptACCCCKKKKKxhe's so mad lmao
>>722284078
>>722284165at least Fromsoft games are playable without mods
>>722280209GOAT fight though. I wish the other memory bosses were as difficult as her.
>>722283418>Funko KnightI bet you were real proud of this one, autism-kun
>>722277667wow you really suck.
>>722284078>in my 60 hours i literally did not have to farm a single time, nor did i ever use the rosary items i got save for a couple of the 120 onesWhy just unironically lie?
>>722277667if you have to ask you were never enjoying the game in the first place>>722278063neither were you
>>722277968Because they're shitters who never did Path of Pain or even the White Palace, if they even played Hollow Knight in the first place, and the Cradle sequence is a moderately harder challenge than probably anything in Silksong in terms of platforming (it's just the same gimmick jump over and over but having to use your brain at all filters these people) so they hit an insurmountable wall when they get to it, if they ever do.
>>722284078>my 60 hours i literally did not have to farm a single time, nor did i ever use the rosary items i got save for a couple of the 120 ones, and i bought everything and got 100%. i can open my game right now and show the thousand rosaries i have on top of every single rosary item i've collected. you do not have to buy everything as soon as you see it or complete the area the vendor is in. come back laterYou either used mods or are just straight up lying.
>>722285086it's not a lie, and the fact that you think it is is quite pathetic. collect your cocoon after you die or shut the fuck up about rosaries. not much else to say
>>722280298Deadeye Deepfake SimulacrumDominions 6CleanFallPath of AchraIntravenous 2ASTLIBRAOTXORusted MossNoitaVoid StrangerLa-Mulana 1/2
>>722285147>noooooo you can't have anything remotely negative to say about the gaaaymmme aiiiiieeee you're not a troo fanwhy are silktrannies like that
It worth just because of VerdaniaIt's the prettiest area in the game and it made me realized how ugly most of silksong areas are in generalI have no idea why they decided that 3 swamp shit-colored areas were a good ideaIt sucks that you're locked out of it once it's finished
sigh
>>722285387theyre virgins who need to justify spending 12 hours per day on this game and/or theyre consolefags
>>722280209>hug the boss the whole time since most of her attacks are long distanceWOW
>>722285440>keyboard controlswhat the fug
>>722285387They're cultist losers who have made the game their entire identity because they have absolutely nothing else in their lives. It's the same thing you see from Soulstrannies.
>>722282134Because it's thematically tied to how you get to act 3 in the first place. You can't save Pharloom if you don't care about the people in it.
>>722285086I also never had to farm. Although I was using almost all of the rosary strings I found until most of the way through act 2. I think people only "need" to farm because they're unwilling to come back and buy stuff later and because they don't explore enough. More people have beaten Karmelita than have gotten all the spool upgrades, which aren't even that well hidden. I got them all in act 2 and I suck at finding secrets.
>>722277667Very
>>722285795HORNET NO SHE'S JUST A CHILD
>>722285147Fun fact, but a large percentage of people don't actually enjoy this game. They play it out of peer pressure, sunk cost and spite.
>>722282134>media illiterate zoomer Tiktok cuck retard tries to comprehend narrative cohesion: impossible difficulty
DLC when?
>>722285904based
>>722285862Out of 10
>>722285925in five years
>>722285086Because Fromfartsharts are really stupid and think they can say outrageous shit without being called out on it
>>722281328He's a fag who would rather afk to grind rosaries and shards instead of playing the game
>>722285958Something about Lace makes me want to groom her into becoming dependent on me for emotional support.
>>722285440>space jump instead of left shiftLmao
>>722285974noyooo
>>722286042>space or left shift for jump instead of x to jump and z to attack
>>722285563>>722286042i did my bindings the exact same way as i had for hollow knight
>>722282621the negative points are just a feedback loop of being terrible>dying>keep dying and losing more beads >never explore for goodies because keep dying>turned out, you don't get many upgrades without exploringno accessibility options?>uuuuuuu, we just want to chime in on FOTM, please easy modo, onegai
>>722286430they deliberately handicap you with a bad control scheme. i almost blew money on reWASD
>>722285987so what about this >>722285440how come you didn't respond to this
>>722280209She is kinda easy. Can hit her after each of her moves, everything she does can be dodged by jumping away, she steps back when you hit her.
Lace erotic
>>722286514What about it? Are you schizophrenic? Did the rollslop melt your brain?
>>722286514>random screenshot at 100% completionthere's nothing to say, no statement was made to respond to
>>722286623>>722286649ah, trannies who are either disingenuous or cannot read and follow a simple conversation. nevermind then, carry on
>>722286031Ew, what the fuck dude?Just rape her like a normal fucking person.
>>722281692Downwell is fucking garbage.
>>722277667>vignette, blind corridorsThis almost got me to mod my first playthrough too. So many fucking rooms where the "difficulty" is just "lol it's basic gameplay but you can't see">multiple items called "light", "lantern", items that spawn flames, etc. other lightsources>not a single one actually grants you proper vision range as an unlisted secondary effect, like you would intuit
>>722286031T. Hornet
>>722277667>is it worth itHow have people not come to the understanding that anything less than the "true ending" in most modern games that feature these type of multiple "endings" is basically a false ending. An extravagant game over screen. So yes, and not even meeting, you did not finish the game. You are clearly intended to play through to the true ending.
>>722286920....what lol
>>722286708So you genuinely are just a retarded Soulstranny.
>>722286834It is fun, simple and hard. Hard mode is very hard, harder than majority of Silksong.
>sponger are simping over this
>>722286481Is this reply for me? hello? well then, bait-on! there are no such things as bad control schemes. there are just ones you don't get used to yet.
>>722286834how's that
>>722286972keep going, chandragupta
>>722287042DAMN SON
>>722281145>can afford a high end gpu but cant afford to git gudKwab
if you complain then you are just bad at the game and probably bad at life as well. Why are videogames so full of shitters now? It wasn't like this some years ago. Are they normies?
>>722286963At least 1/4th of all the rooms in the game look like this.90% of the screen is just blank and the difficulty comes from there being random dead ends with spikes or enemies popping out of the ground, none of which you can see until you're already almost running into them.And then some areas have you do platforming with visibility like this, and you can't see where the next platform is and what hazard it has on or around it, until you've already jumped.
we will know soon enough
here's your reward for exploring bro
>>722281164again, its a bad control scheme that actually handicaps you instead of rewarding you when you finally get double-jump by the way I would never do Mount Fay without mods. just lmao
>we never got to see their relationship
>>722287969>I would never do Mount Fay without mods. just lmaokek what a shitter
>>722287719Normalfags were coralled out of sports and pop music and into gaming starting in the early 2000s. Now we're stuck with them and all of the side effects of their lack of impulse control. You shouldn't even be allowed to start a new game in SS without loading a 100%+ completed HK save. All of the complaining you're seeing is what happens when normalfags can't participate in the Next Big Thing in the zeitgeist.
>>722277667You retards didn't really grow up playing Megaman or Castlevania and it shows.It's a mediocre platformer, with well telegraphed boss attacks.Git gud.
>>722287719it's all elden ring's faultwhen people complained about sekiro back in 2019 (the first time i remember the difficulty issue getting a big push, anyway), nobody gave a fuck. learn how to play the game or fuck off was the general sentimentelden ring is a difficult game for sure, but has a million tools to make it essentially baby mode if you know how to use a controller. and because the game got vastly more popular than any of the previous games combined, there were a LOT more people using these easy mode crutches than people playing the normal knight sword only characters. if you beat a difficult game and had fun, that means you like difficult games, right? but now they're playing a difficult game that does not have as many tools to trivialize things (the ones that do exist are gated by resources), and suddenly it's like the holocaust on trannies and reddit gamer dads. have you seen how many people complain about rosaries and shards? these are the people who die 3 minutes into exploring a new area over and over again, losing the hundreds of rosaries they've collected. these are the people spamming as many tools as they can on the bosses every attempt and still somehow dying and not beating them. it's just so pathetic to see how difficulty is now supposedly bad game design
>>722287814Wow anon it's almost like the darkness makes it hard to see.
>>722288057>You shouldn't even be allowed to start a new game in SS without loading a 100%+ completed HK saveyep agree on this. Game was clearly designed for those that already played and beated HK. SS is way harder sure, but I never felt it was unfair to me as a player, plus the way Hornet controls (like a dream) begs for platforming sections and enemies that force you to make the most of it.
>>722288181They never played a game before the PS4. Dude, the way people made those red bulbs you gotta bounce on seem like a deal left me in shambles. What the fuck were they complaining about? That section was so easy it made me realize this site (and the whole internet) is full of retards that couldn't even beat the fucking centipede in Alien Soldier, much less any Mega Man boss.
>>722288190100% agree
>>722288037platforming is boring. there should never be a zone that is just entirely platforming. could have had unique ice monsters and fun gauntlets but instead its pure sadistic platforming which demands mods
>>722281181>Beat the craw boss>Get item>It's useless because the game is over at that point
>>722288196wow almost like the first game had a lantern and it made dark areas not dark.and this game has at least 3 different items that should produce light but don't.
Those cute bugs are able to cruise the entire kingdom until their very end yet you faggots can't beat the bug game without mods
>>722288590It's not sadistic at all lol. Dude how can you even call a game sadistic is beyond me.>demands modsno. It demands a bit of skill and the will to learn, which your fried brain sure lacks
>>722288595>come across a vertical section>"hmm ok, well every single other vertical section in this area has these worms">"also i'm on low health so in theory i should be playing a bit more cautiously and patiently">"also let's ignore the fact that i'm on low health in an infinite silk area">"i know! i'm just gonna jump straight in and never stop holding forward!"game's fault yea
>>722288181Silksong is harder than most Megaman games and the original Castlevania.Castlevania 3 though is way harder, Megaman X series too. All other Megaman games are casual and Castlevania games after 4 are all casual trash.
>>722288590>demands modsIf you're a huge pussy, maybe. Why don't you just stick to fortnite and other baby games? Why do you insist on forcing yourself into places you were never meant to be?
>>722288702can you not reply to obvious ragebait
>>722288351I agree 100%Imagine these idiots playing Contra III or some old school platformer on the NES, when you lose your last life you need to start from the beginningThe changes in mobility and toolkit from the Knight to Hornet is like the jump from Megaman Classic to Megaman X.There is so much more you can do.Sure losing two masks imediately is bad. But just play like you have half the amount of life you have.Remember when platformers had no health bar and you died in one hit and moved like slugg? Like Alex Kidd?
>>722277667The game is unironically not that hard that you need to rely on cheats, but good for you man. Don't bother with Act 3, since you clearly wouldn't enjoy it, and just look up the ending.
Why'd they remove the double-jump override
>>722288812Silksong is harder than most platformers, sure.But a person used to hard games will fit right in.But certainly no Megaman X game is harder than SS. If you feel MM X games are hard, try Megaman Zero and Zero 2, especially getting good rankCastlevania really depends if it's after SOTN or not, though 4 was a step down in difficulty
>>722288919>when you lose your last life you need to start from the beginningThis would blow so many people minds nowadays. Meanwhile in SS you don't even lose progress when you die, any items you picked or places you explore still count. All you have to do is retrieve the cocoon and even then the game gives you INFINITE items to recover it automatically.Shitters have been fucking videogames for quite a long time and I'm happy that Team Cherry didn't bend the knee and instead made the game the way they wanted.
>>722289168Jesus Christ the anon who recorded that sure is bad at videogames
>>722289214That actually blew my mind when I played HK.I presumed that you could kill the shadow and get back your money, but the map still gets upgraded and all events are marked as well.Especially the part where you can just quit to the main menu and get out of a though spot, regaining health and just need to backtrack
>>722277667>is more game worth it?Are you fucking daft?
>>722289202Megaman X6, X7 and X8 are harder than Silksong, but X7 and specially X8 are horrible in almost every way imaginable so the difficulty mostly comes from how bad the games are.I never played Megaman zero series.
>>722287719what's worse than being bad is thinking they were ever good in the first place. It's always fromdrones
>>722289168this looks like torture, god silkcucks are so fucking deranged
>>722287719If you complain about things like "forced grinding" or "x should be nerfed" you are just shit at the game, yes, but the game isn't a perfect, flawless 10/10 with absolutely no issues. No game is.
Can we make a new internet? One without normies. Nor indians.
WITCH CREST IS SO FUCKING FUN THAT I DONT EVEN WANT TO TOUCH THE OTHER CRESTS ANYMORE, OOOOOOOOH I FUCKING LOVE IT
i'm gonna be honest i don't even know what section in high halls people are seething and dilating over because nothing there registered as so difficult that it branded itself in my memory out of sheer rage
>>722289521Never said it was a 10/10, but I hope we agree that the criticism towards difficulty is way overblown. I'm 35 y/o and managed to beat the game while extremely high on weed. Everybody should be able to beat it.
>>722289534its the most played game on steam, silksong is normie-tier
>>722289214and I can mod it to play the game that I want
>>722289534Try /vg/ chud.I just bought second copy of Silksong for my alt account just to leave negative review.TC will pay for 7 years.
>>722289631yeah which is why we get threads like this one
>>722289168does the anon in this webm know you can just dash and then double jump to kill your momentum
>>722289534It would be a pale imitation colored by the creators/users interactions with normalfags and indians elsewhere. You cant go back. Nobody can.
>>722288590If you think platforming is boring then why the fuck are you playing Silksong, you gaping tranny retard? Mount Fay isn't even difficult, the only thing that makes it moderately challenging is having to do it quickly the first time, and even then there are warming spots fucking everywhere. After you get the cloak there's nothing even resembling a platforming challenge. The most difficult platforming sections in the game are the timed escape from the Abyss and the section in the Cradle that you have to do if you want to reach Mister Mushroom and get the secret ending, and neither of those are even approaching the difficulty of the White Palace, let alone Path of Pain.Mount Fay isn't even as fucking hard as some of the mid game platforming in Hollow Knight. Hell, I'd argue that the platforming in Cogwork Core is harder. You just suck shit and don't like platformers but for some retarded reason think a genre you don't like should cater to you.Kill yourself.>inb4 baitYeah don't bother, kill your worthless family and then yourself.
>>722289727;_;
>>722289714I wouldn't have to do that if they'd just let me glide without double jumping, the wall on the right is specifically put there so you'd end up hitting your head otherwise
>>722288810nta but the darkness is just shit because they made all this beautiful artwork and you cant even see any of it. One of the first things i did was mod out the vignette
>>722288810>hmm spike pit, better stop to have internal monologue about the most logical conclusion to take here >enemy that just spawned behind you attacks and kills you
>>722288590>Hate platforming>Play platformerAlways remember that these are the kinds of retards we're arguing with
>>722289629It is, people are shitters. I cleared everything in the game barely ever touching my tools and using Reaper for 80% of my playthrough, never even touched the shitter crutch Crests like Wanderer or Architect. It's certainly harder than the average platformer but people act like it's Dracula's Curse or Ninja Gaiden 3 levels of hard.
>>722288590why are fromdrones like this...
guys is this normal
>>722289442I disagree wholeheartedly, but that's my experience at least.X6 is a terribly designed game, they went for maximum jank to extend the shelf life of the game.X8 has some janky parts (looking at you Burn Rooster stage), but it's completly doable. A bit harder to get to 100% due to having to replay all those shit stagesX7 does not exist, never heard of itYou should try MM Zero series, 1 and 2 are hard and have some problems with certain mechanics. Playing for S rank is pure punishment, especially in certain stages.3 is perfection, the best MM game ever. You have a combo system for Zero's moves, you can melt bosses in incredible ways4 is much easier and streamlined, but has it's charmZX and ZXA are much more streamlined and a light play, but you have insane toolkits and mobility options that make them fun
>>722280209>put on Architect>spam infinite poisoned tools without having to learn any of her patternsIt's only hard until you realize dreams don't consume shards.
>>722289761
>>722290086>just play like a shitter broYou didn't beat the game.
>>722277667>Infinite jump, where you fall in the spikes and have to run all the way back, I'll even use invincibility beause there's no game that punishes you this much for falling while learning platforming sequencesHow can someone like this enjoy any video game that's not for toddlers? I bet this person posts here all day with all sorts of stupid opinions
>>722290158I did actually.
>Silksong threads have XIV tier cultism now
>>722290086Remind me, what does it take to recraft your tools with architect?
>>722289669I can also mod Skyrim to be a big futa furry simulator, but that doesn't really mean I'm playing Skyrim, am I?
>All the complaints about the blasted steps and the last judge fight.You know they don't even attack you if you're pure hearted, right? You guys aren't a bunch of dirty sinners who were not granted entrance, are you?
>>722289628the High Hall gauntlet was a good challenge, it took me a bit but felt good when I finally got past it. I want more challenges like this and less fake & gay platforming. You can have platforming but why take it to such an extreme. Fighting is fun, parkour isn't fun
>>722290231>cultism is pushing back on retarded normies complaining they have to put in effort to play a game made to be challengingsure, /vt/ranny
>>722290321I loved the platforming, Hornet's moveset makes traversal very fun
>>722290069Yes it happened to me
>>722290217You played on Easy Mode, which means you did not beat the game. Sorry to ruin your day, kiddo. Try again after you acquire skill.
>>722290280Oh I never recrafted tools mid fight and I only used Architect in that one boss so honestly I forgot that was a thing. I basically just beat the gauntlet and her first phase normally and started spamming 3 tools when she started getting fast.>>722290420There's no difficulty selection in this game thoughever. Sorry you gimped yourself for no reason lol
I've been taking my time, I know I need some more fleas and got the remaining locations on my map now, then gotta do the remaining Act 2 bosses. Also haven't done Sprintmaster yet.
>>722288702>Dude how can you even call a game sadistic is beyond me.Bilewater bench and hunter's march bench are examples of sadism, trolling is sadism in case you didnt know that.
>>722290387>/vt/trannyLol retard
>>722290158>>722290420You fucking Soulstranny faggot ass cumguzzler I am so fucking sick and tired of you worthless pieces of rollslop obsessed Fromshart shit infecting this fucking board and all discussion about videogames across the entire fucking Internet. You're a fat, lazy, greasy, ugly, jobless slob who made some shitty nipslop games your entire personality to the point where you actually think you're some well-respected elite badass for playing through all of them by farting into a microwave or whatever the fuck, when the reality is that you're a FUCKING LOSER, a fucking clown, a fucking laughingstock and an embarrassment to your entire bloodline. You fucking worthless scum of the Earth, I hope every single piece of fucking shit involved with Fromslopware dies, I hope all Soulstrannies die, I hope the games are deleted from the Internet and made globally illegal under pain of torture and death for the first infraction. You are fucking nothing but a waste of space and you should have been aborted.Fucking kill yourself.
if this game did not have mods it would be dumped as garbage by the community
>>722290691Fatass PCheaters aren't the only people playing.PC stands for Practicing Cuck btw.
>>722290674based
>>722290501Bilewater yeah, but I didn't mind, just kill some enemies and remove the maggots by healing. Hunter's March I could swear it heals you before the impact anyway but I'm mot sure since I didn't die there.>trolling is sadismnah not at all, you are just a crybaby. Sadism is extremely high dificulty to the poimt were the game is barely fun anymore. 2 instances of trolling in a 60 hours game is nothing.
>>722290674you didn't beat the game btw
reminder that the people who hate silksong love fear and hunger
>>722290674the king has spoken
>>722282621Silksong's economy is objectively great. Having never grinded, having probably lost about 1k rosaries over the course of the game, and having bought 10 or so shard bundles, I was still able to make the last purchases in mid act 3 which is perfect. Do these retards think a good economy is being able to buy out every merchant the second you see them?
>>722288919>Imagine these idiots playing Contra III or some old school platformer on the NESImagine playing NES dogshit unironically. Those dogshit games were randomly put together by few dudes trying to make a buck. Game design didn't even exist back in those old days. The main audience were children and children didn't know any better. It's similar how back in 50-60s they sell retarded toys. Or premium nintendo cardboard >b-but my childhood My too. I would never play them again unless you pay me.
>>722290932>Do these retards think a good economy is being able to buy out every merchant the second you see them?Yes.
>>722290765it is 90% of the people playing this game, good luck to the idiots who wasted 20 dollars on console version
>>722290947>My tooyou aren't fooling anyone, ESL zoomer-kun
>>722290932>Silksong's economy is objectively great.Based guidebro. Just watch guides.
>>722290947>tranimetroon is pretending to be an oldfagYou grew up in the PS3 area at the latest.
>>722291007>americuck calling people esl when every southern state has the majority of children only able to speak spanishkek
>>722277667Coral Tower is aids.
>>722290995Nobody cares that you play on an overpriced toaster that gets shit on by my PS5 Pro and randomly breaks every 6 months
>>722290825Based
>>722277667I've been stuck at the flea juggle for 10 hours game time
>>722290051kill yourself, shazamtranny
>>722290765imagine doing boss runbacks just lmao
>>722277667>He dose not first the devs fair but hard game design Retard
>>722291007>hurrrAmigo in my Superior Country we had 1000000-in-1 BEST NES GAMES cartridges sold everywhere. For every console. While your parents paid $$ for one game we had them all.
>>722291123what good is stability if the game is unplayable without mods?>it IS playableyeah ok lmao
>>722291187kekanon, if flea A comes out followed by flea B, you have to hit them in this order:>A, B, A, B, A, BAnd the same when a third one comes out. It's that easy, keep track of them and you'll beat it in no time.
>>722289465shazam lost and got raped
>>722291226I had a bunch of those but they were all for the Game Boy
>>722291187Are you having fun? Flea festival is for fun.
>>722291210>h-hehe bro can you imagine playing a game without cheating??? I definitely can't *downloads Cuck Simulator*>>722291239It's perfectly playable. You being terrible at games doesn't make a game unplayable. This is why PClowns aren't actual gamers. You just neuter every game that provides slight challenge and never actually improve, so everything seems insurmountable to you.Anyone who plays games on a PC is a loser and beneath me, full stop.
>>722290947The Megaman and super Mario games for NES are still quite solid.Ghost and goblins is fun too but way too hard for me.
I just reached The Judge. Is there a shortcut or a closer bench I missed? Because if not, it's the most ridiculous runback so far.
>>722290674You are the soulstranny, fucking imbecile.This is a soulstranny-pandering game, and "just equip architect" is a peak soulstranny response.
>>722291504Just download the infinite health mod bro, then the boss is easy as fuck *jams a cock down my throat*
>>722291504you only come across 1 enemy and it's a fly that shoots red triangles which you can just run past through
>>722291448>so everything seems insurmountable to you.exactly, that's the point retard. I also get 4K/144fps. you are getting bent over by nintendo
>>722291504nah but it's not that bad once you get used to it, and the last judge is a deceptively simple boss
I miss float override so much, removing it was one of the most retarded decisions I’ve ever seen a dev make
>>722291504>>722291541not infinite health but boss retry. it gets rid of runbacks entirely, for gauntlets too
>>722291745>just straight up admitting that he's shit at games
>>722291504>so faryoure gonna love groal!the judge is the kind of boss that is difficult because it tests the limits of your patience to wait for your turn to attack. the runback is made to get in your head so you become impatient.
>>722291728Maybe I'm a retard because I run into one fly, then a fly and a robot, and I always get hit dodging the latter. I'll look into optimizing my path.
>>722291848Yeah bro that's what I said, just cheat! *sits down on dick*
>>722291836Why they didn't make toggle on off option? Though it was fast patch. Maybe they will fix it later in DLC
>>722291952No robot, so you definetly can optimize the route.
>>722291541youre joking but thats what 80% of the playerbase is doing, bosses just arent fun the way they designed
>>722292196>80% of the playerbase is trashI had fun and I didn't cheat. I'm just better than you retards I guess.
dunno if I want to use reaper or hunter crest
dsp beat the high choir gauntlet first try, what is your excuse anon??
>>722292402How does he do it?
>>722287890A fun side quest, a new move set, and a bonus ending?Yeah it's a pretty good one.
>>722287890Child noisy
>>722292553for me it was 20 hours of this >>722292720have bad short-term memory and couldn't find out what I needed to do. Grew up to enjoy the noise, it's kinda funny.
>>722290674Unfathomably based
>got the true ending a week ago>feel empty and not sure what to play nowthe only bad thing about finishing a game you truly enjoyed ig. im still on a metroidvania mood desu. is bloodstained any gud?
>>722291519>soulstranny-pandering game>no estus>no roll>no iframes>a lot of platformingsure buddy
>>722293120I hated it. Didn't like anything about it. Maybe check out Blasphemous, or either Deedlit or SMT Synchronicity if you want a short one.Or you could replay the first Hollow Knight.
>>722291504Just do this.
>>722293120Bloodstained is gamey metroidvania. By gamey I mean it's not immersive or anything like HK. I liked it and hated everything about Blasphemous.
>>722293298yeah this is what I did, just 1 enemy and easily avoidable
>>722293120I liked Bloodstained. There's also Blade Chimera and the Last Faith, maybe Grime
>killed every boss through Act 3, except LL>encountered (but not completed) every Hunter’s Journal entry>all quests done except the last Sprintmaster run>all shops bought out>Made Seth my flea bitch>all memory lockets, craftmetals found and used>still missing TWO FUCKING BLUE TOOLS and they’re just in the middle of the set, implying they are not late game unlocks that rely on Silk SoarHow does this happen. How well hidden was some of this shit in Act 2.
>>722293120if you can play it for free do itotherwise i wouldn't advice itbut if you liked a sequel to hollow shit you will like it
Who imprisoned first sinner? Silk or the weavers? I assume the slab comes after the citadel, by which time silk is long asleep
>>722293298the run back to the last judge was like the one of the easy run backs in the game lol
>>722293402which ones did you miss
Why did you all play self-imposed challenge runs instead of just playing the game the way it was meant to be played, walking into bosses spamming attack like you're holding namelock in Diablo II?How fucking hard is it to use your brain cells instead of your twitchy fingersIf you're CHOOSING to memorize attack patterns, manage your resources, position yourself and dodge attacks- that's a YOU problem. The game gave you the tool. Quaff a flea brew, put on wanderer, multibinder, injector, druid's eyes & dice, and just spam attack lmaohow fucking bad are all of you at video games if you can't figure this out
>>722293559How could I possibly know that without having them, anon
Has Silksong killed punishing game design? Team Cherry has enough money to tell everyone to fuck off and make whatever they want but the average game dev is gonna get spooked by all the discourse around it.
>>722293413silk. the citadel did not come after she was put to sleep
>>722293402Let me guess. One blue tool is ice shit from Fay (hidden wall in the bench room)Second one is...hmmm Volt?
>>722293614>punishing game designYou can always punish yourself.
>>722293613look it up janny
>>722293581You didn't beat the game.
>>722293803Didn't beat the game
>>722293402If you're playing blind without a guide there's a 100% chance the two items you're missing are the dice and the crystalThere is no fucking imaginable way any person finds either of these without cheating or being truly autisticThe jump into the ice cavern is completely blind because the map doesn't scroll that high and obstructs the ceiling with the foreground so you can't see it. You have to KNOW you're supposed to super jump in one specific spotNo sane person would or could beat the dice game TEN TIMES IN A ROW without knowing exactly what the completely arbitrary fucking trick isFace the fact, this game assumes you WILL use online guides
>>722293614It’s just because normies latched onto Silksong since it was so hyped by the fans. I didn’t do all the crazy shit in HK, but I really didn’t struggle much in SS outside of the first savage beastfly fight. Even LL took me maybe 10 tries at most.
>>722293618It says the citadel was built as a prison
>>722293849well i found them without having to look anything up. you on the other hand are an explorelet and have clearly missed some easy to find tools, so lol
>>722278604That was kino albeit
>>722287970I like to imagine that all the wailing you hear during act 3 is GMS from having to see her perfect little baby being corrupted by the Void and telling her how much she hates her and how she never loved her and everything else that would rip her heart apart. No matter how much she tries to console Lace, she just gets eviscerated physically and verbally even more. Literal Hell and she doesn't even deserve it.
>>722277667Why are you even playing this game? Its obviously not for you.
>>722293581just saw a glitch in this webm with the UITC never noticed, look at 18 seconds in>anon is at 16 full + 2 green for 18/18 max silk in the gauge, 16/18 usable>gets hit>goes to 17 full + 2 green for 19/18 max silk in the gauge>the green silk is overlapping the end of the bar in the UI, sticking outlmao they probably only tested with base druid not the +2 version
>>722293994Now that's heartbreaking, the same lace ...mirage? That appears there to appear in the cocoon too
>>722293887>There is no fucking imaginable way any person finds either of these without cheating or being truly autisticDice is easy to find. I mean the bug asked me to play the game>win>wtf? what the fuck am I even playing let do it again>win>win>win>??? wtf?>win>win>uuoh sorry I'm out of rosaries take a dice
>>722289168what the fuck is this guy doing
>>722294040because you shills never shut up about this hollow knight would be my guess
>>722294227GMS did literally nothing wrong. I wish there were a magic set of scales that lets the user go back in time so you could unfuck Pharloom and save her.
>>722294301trying to not double jump
>>722294301trying not to double-jump into the spikes
>>722294295Besides even if you don't win it or take it off his corpse, Grindle gets it and sells it in act 3 anyway.
>>722294306Why does that make you feel compelled to slog through a game you don't like?
>>722293887seething shitter, I found the dice after I went back to the guy's room and found him dead.
the unravelled is fucking RANCID DOGSHIT.even architect cheese is useless because your entire arsenal only does half his health. retarded nigger boss
>>722294417Doesnt he know he can just dash in mid-air or needle dash to the left over the spikes?
>>722293887I think Pinstress tells you there's a secret area in mt fay after you fight her. Someone did at least, I forget who. It's pretty obvious roughly where it is at that point because >secret area in crystals>just got Silk Soar>only like two places in the crystal area where you can go up
>>722294489we like the game, we just use mods to fix it. and you like beating your head against the wall until it turns into a blood pulp while getting rammed up the ass. to each his own
>>722293887I have the dice. I guess I’m missing the crystal… is it in Brightvein? I found the mask shard up there.
>>722293887Nothing wrong with using guides for some games. The quest for knowledge isn't a solo endeavor. That being said, I'd only use a guide for Silksong to find masks or spool pieces. Anything else would ruin your experience.
I dunno what to tell you guys I'm 90% completion on switch and I'm old and reflexes aren't as good as what they were ten years ago. I guess this bait thread is making me challenge my belief that I'm retarded though so thanks for that
>>722294580Pinstress tells you about mask not crystal. Crystal in the second bench area.
>>722279101No it isn't.
>>722294741There's a secret area near one of the benches.
>>722294381Always bet on saving Lost Silk in the DLC
>>722294753Pic not related.
>>722294563???? you take out 60% of his max hp with 10 tacks aloneyou can trivially kill him with architect build without even needing to refill your tools, he dies to just some tacks and projectiles
>>722294417>>722294429>trying to fit a square peg into a round holeOk but why? Why not use the round peg (dashing)?
>>722294798>switch>retarded>90% completionchecks out
>>722294753I didn't use guides and still somehow missed ~6 memory lockets in act 2. >>722294563Yeah. The hidden technique agonist him is parry. Just get second needle upgrade.
>>722294798Doesn't matter how retarded you are, if you grew up playing games then you're still more skilled that 99% of normalfags that plague gaming now.
>>722286567What’s the worst runback in hollow knight? Hornet 2?
>>722294381>you somehow get to save silk and she wants to reconcile with her daughters.>different interactions if you killed Phantom or not. She'd probably completely break down if she saw her dead
>>722294925Because dashing into spikes is less controlled than gliding, if the jump was intended to be done through dashing the right wall wouldn't exist
>>722282003I had Shakra help me, I went way off the beaten path before finishing the Citadel since I thought it was the final area of the game.
>>722294872idk what is wrong with my tools because he ate the full load of poison tacks, cogflys, and tri daggers along with occasional hits, and still didnt die. unbelievable cancer
>>722286567I think the devs just made a game that they found fun to play. I doubt this “catering to difficulty” bullshit ever came up in their minds.
>>722295109i think you're just an overthinking retard who is very bad at platforming sectionst. a guy who did not overthink it and thus had no issues with any of the platforming sections
>>722295175You always have to do the first phase clean. Spamming tools at the beginning of a boss fight is pointless because you’re only rushing to the hard part.
>>722295238I know how to platform alright, the fact of the matter is there was a simple solution already in the game in that you could glide from a jump and they removed it, why
>>722295175You need to upgrade your tools. In act 2 you can get max damage and capacity,
>>722295109You can needle throw dash while sticking to a wall. That's what you're supposed to do. That's why the wall is there.
>>722289521You aren't forced to grind but the existence of it in the first place is a problem. Currency does not belong in this genre I will die on this hill. Before you ask I probably lost at most 300 rosaries total and ended the game with multiple shard bundles sitting unused in my inventory.
>>722293413The first sinner being imprisoned is likely the impetus for the weavers betraying GMS.
>>722277667>I suck at this game and I hate it but I have FOMO so I'm entitled to beat it. Should I keep playing after getting to the credits?No, just use Steam Achivement Manager.
>reach lategame>poison deals 6 damage in 2 seconds or something shit>tools do something like 30-50 damage per throw with limited ammo>cogflies deal only ~9 damage per hit and only 6 hits so its no better than others>....>flea brew wanderers crest hits like 3 times per second for ~18 damage for ~54 dps while also gaining you back silk AND clashing with incoming attacks>shaman filament thread storm deals ~193 fucking damage in a giant ass aoearchitectfags in shambles
>>722295330>i know how to platform the clip shows otherwise, anon.
>>722290674They hated him because he spoke the truth
>>722294798I beat it on switch with a fucked up joycon with stick drift and still got 100%. Some people are just bad at games.
>>722293298There was my problem, I took the long way around instead of that narrow tunnel at :06. Thanks.>>722293415It still took me a couple of tries to realize I could only get past the fly unhurt if I made the jump without stopping at all.
>>722295175cogflies suck, they aren't efficient and waste shots on minionsconch shells & boomerangs are where the real damage is at
>>722295453Coping
>>722293887The game literally tells you about Brightvein retard. And you easily find the dice simply by going around looking for secrets in the late game.You can't imagine finding everything on your own because you are a fucking retard. 100% completion 100% blind and it didn't even take me that long. Only retards use guides to play video games - ANY video game. I have never used a guide in 30+ years of gaming and I have never failed to beat a game.
>no pilebunker toolWhy?
Why do I keep getting free beads and shards out of this thing? How does it work
>>722295368The wall is there to jump off of, the only requirement to get in is wall jump, having double jump screws things up but at least to have double jump you have to have Clawline so you can get through, it just doesn't feel natural>>722295453Oh please I made it through didn't I, it's just a joke anyways
>>722295445Imagine using anything but drills.
>>722295553>The game literally tells you about Brightvein retardMemory crystal isn't in Brightvein retard.You didn't play the game.
>>722295569Did you read the description? It's a bird nest. The birds bring you shinies.
I finished act 1 and I still haven't used any tools for fights yet. Which is better, threefold pin or straight pin?
>>722294803>>722294580Pinstress absolutely tells you that there's a secret crystal cave in the center of the mountain. Anyone who pays attention will find it like I did.
>>722295569you didn't read the item description before you stuck it on your house?what if it was a bomb, huh?you'd have exploded while sitting in your hot tub
>>722295608I respect the drill but lets be real it only applies to specific enemies and boss fights that let you land that shitAny enemy with vertical movement is guaranteed to slam you for 2 collision damage
>>722295719Crystal cave is Brightvein.Brightvein reward is a mask
>>722295685get the boomerang in act 1 and forget the rest, it continues being goat for your whole playthrough its just castlevania modeand it upgrades in a3 to be even better
>>722295685Just ignore tools.
>>722295654The person I responded to literally talked about Brightvein and thought it was impossible to find the way there, fucking moron.The memory crystal is obviously even easier to find and no one would miss that if they aren't retarded.
Is there any gank fight as good as Watcher Knights in this?
>>722295453>dude makes it through perfectly>N-NUH UH YOU ACTUALLY SUCK AT PLATFORMINGWhat compels shitters to act like this?
>>722277968Im horrible at platforming though I would never whine about it here
>>722295804You're right, but the guy who thought it was impossible to find it obviously really was talking about Brightvein.
>>722295958>If you're playing blind without a guide there's a 100% chance the two items you're missing are the dice and the crystalDon't care about your cope retard.Ignored.
>>722295445But tools are broken and you need to be punished for using them
>>722296046You seem to have autism since you were unable to understand from context that the guy was talking about Brightvein and thought the crystal was from there.
>>722295330that looks so fucking retardednot you anon, the game
>people still shill poisonIt gets outclassed in act 2. Do people really think 8 damage over 2 seconds (that gets cut in half if the boss jumps off screen before the second tick of poison lands) is good?
>>722295965not in the same way, but I thought Raging Congfly had a kind of similar vibe despite not actually being similar mechanically
>>722296005>perfectly>grapples the bugsA real man would have pogo'd
WHY DOES THE ANT WHORE BLOCK MOST OF MY HITS
Imagine how better the game would be if instead of 24 red tools we got more unique blue and yellow "build enablers" or more silk skills.
>>722295780>the drill>singularIn any case, I find horizontal movement the bigger problem with delver's drill. Not a lot of enemies dart straight up quickly, so that's usually not a problem. But enemies that dart around quickly horizontally are hard to land on.
>>722296203haha it's supposed to be bad
>>722296197Oh I see you're just a shitposter. You're probably also black.
>>722296113Fake context. This reply chain is about tools. Cope faggot.
>>722296163Also don't tools do more damage without poison?
>>722296005If it takes you 100 free throws to get the ball in the hoop just once I'm not gonna say you're good at basketball.
>>722295330I STILL haven’t mastered this. I made the climb successfully but I still beef it from time to time because I don’t have good intuition for when to double-jump out such that you don’t start falling too soon and miss the wall grab or jump too early and head-bonk the spikes. There’s this latency to the double jump that makes it weird for me.Nice run though.
>>722296235i don't mind it like this. the options this time around are more about slightly enhancing hornet's mechanics than coming up with "builds." the crests offer enough variety on that front anyways. considering i never really used "builds" in hollow knight either, this way is fine. though i do wish we got at least one more blue charm notch
>>722296332Initial damage I mean
>>722296203Because you aren't setting up your attacks properly. It's supposed to be a high skill duel against one of the most formidable beings in Pharloom's history, she isn't just going to stand there and let you stab her in the face.>>722296249Skill issue.
>>722296348>retarded basketball analogyAnother blackie, I see.
>>722296358For me it's the pogo'ing. I eventually got pretty consistent at those clawline jumps. But the pogo'ing part is always a mess.
>>722295958The memory crystal is not in brightvein and there's no in-game clue that the memory crystal area exists
>>722296332No, that's a misconception. Tool damage does not change with poison active, it is only additive. However, it barely increases with the extra tool upgrades, and like I mentioned if a boss goes off screen or teleports (quite a few do this) poison is cleared. If it did stack, then the rosary cannon would actually be really cool.
>>722296462I mean… don’t do it with Beast Crest? That’s a self-gimp
>>722296309>expecting a SINGULAR post inside ANY skong thread inside /v/ to not be shitGenuinely your fault. I'm not being sarcastic.
>>722296081oh yeah tools are broken and >>722293581is perfectly balanced 10/10 gameplay
>>722296309It's my webm, I wanted to do it legit then I had to settle for hitless, no sane man should do it with Beast Crest
>>722296507I'm a different anon from the one who posted that. I've never used beast crest more than the trip back to the bench after retrieving it.
>>722296391>It's supposed to be a high skill duel against one of the most formidable beings in Pharloom's history,>she's hiding behind dogshit gauntletFirst Sinner is the only skill duel. Honest without any bullshit. She's /ourgirl/.
>>722296476The memory crystal was so easy to find on my first time through the mountain that I don't even remember it being hidden. If you actually couldn't find that on your own there's no hope for you. Brightvein at least would be legitimately hard to find if not for the in-game tip.
>>722296489oh ok thanks for clearing that up. You know this thread has answered a bunch of questions for me despite the op obviously baiting and whining. love you guys. I'm off to get to 100% now.
>>722296567No it's not, it's my webm.Retard.
>>722296163he speaks the truth poison is shitit also means an architect build can't use plasmium because instead of infinite heals you get fart cloudspoison damage doesn't stack so you're adding like 3 damage every 2 seconds while using tools at a point in the game where every attack does 18-21 and tools deal 50+NOT worth a slot
>>722296586>First Sinner is the only skill duel.Phantom says go fuck yourself
>>722296586Nah, Karmelita is easily the best boss in the game.You got filtered.
>>722296612>giant glowing hole in the ceiling above the only standable platform in the middle of a cave,It’s not that hard to find, anon
>>722296710t. Karmelita simp
>>722296586>used silk skillsShe didn't beat the player.
>you can skip Groal completelyhuh, Voltvessels bug or intentional?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UyyjAbl51wM
>>722296710t. soulsfriend that likes music that goes AAAOOOOWAAAAOOOAAA
>>722289168Is this that Cuphead journo?
>>722296753Nah, just someone with intelligence and critical thinking skills, unlike (You).
>>722296841okay now how do you get into memorium without double jump
>>722296848I don't play slop games like you.
>>722296930you best start believing in slopgames you're in a thread for one
>>722296970Silksong is better than anything Fromsoft has ever put out. All of their games are objectively mediocre or straight up bad.
>>722296873>Karmelita simp>intelligence and critical thinking skillsIf boss has a gauntlet it's a shit boss. Kino "skill duel" bosses don't hide behind trash mobs in any fiction.
>>722296858Give me a break I had 2 health on Steel Soul, I just wanted to point out they shouldn't have removed the double jump override ok, I swear I'm not bad at videogames you gotta believe me
>>722296841Clearly a bug, just like being able to hit any breakable wall or switch from the opposite side in HK. It's a good bug, and considering that it's not more efficient than running through the area which you have to do for act 3 (shakra's quest) and 100% (memory locket and flea), I think it'll be left in.
>>722296904Seems pretty easy to bait one of those big guys and then pogo on him.
>>722279493>But I don't want any more vignette, blind corridors and falling into spikes because you can't see ahead of you.No I agree, the shadow effect in every room is way worse than it was in Hollow Knight.
I'm done with people complaining about this game. Not because it's flawless but because so many stupid midwits, turbocasuals and general brownoids have come out of the woodwork trying to parade their biases around as "the proper ways of game design" when trying to claim things here (or in HK since they apply too) are "flawed" or "outdated design" or whatever buzzword else. At least this game dares to have some player friction and standards for being such a big and mainstream release instead of just aiming for candy candy candy, even if some elements didn't work or came out awkward.
No seriously, FromSHIT has never released a good game.>King's Field and Shadow Tower are awful boomer dungeon crawlers that nobody even liked back then and are unanimously hated now>Demon's Souls was piss easy with boring level designs, dull gimmick bosses, and terrible one note combat>Dark Souls is more of the same, just longer and somehow even clunkier>Dark Souls II is just a dumpster fire, absolutely nothing good about it>Bloodborne is Devil May Cry but for Soulstards>Dark Souls III is just Bloodborne again but in Dark Souls land>Sekiro is a rhythm game with zero replayability or build variety>Elden Ring is the worst offender being an empty open world Ubislop clone that was casualized even more than the games that preceded it
>>722297024>Silkshit>better than Fromsoft gamesLol LMAO. TC is lucky Fromsoft doesn't make 2d games.
>>722296904I'm not sure if it's possible, but if it is, it involves getting killed near the entrance so you can boost yourself off pogoing your cocoon. The enemies in that corridor don't get near the entrance so I'm not even sure if you can do it.
>>722297024t. guy who got filtered by ds2 and never got over it
I’ve been trying to hit the Silk storage bug to set up a Trobbio skip and can’t do it because my timing is shit and it’s a near frame perfect trick. Call me shit. I deserve it.
>>722297082>filtered by a simple warmup gauntletAs I suspected, you didn't beat the game.
>>722297186
>>722297213Fromsoft games are factually bad games.>>722297234>one of the worst games ever made>>722297274>tranimepedo>no argumentAs usual.
>>722296750The mental gymnastics of some contrarians here in order to get a "win" are insane. I wouldn't be surprised if you are literally the same person who was whining that it was impossible to find everything without a guide just before. Something I easily did.
>>722297384>that it was impossible to find everything without a guideIt literally is with how obtusely the game is designed dipshit.
>>722297384I bet you didn’t find EVERYTHING. And you wouldn’t know because you can 100% the game without getting 100% completion
>>722297186>Anon whining about games he can’t beat. Some people take actual offense to finding out they are shit at something. It’s a type of rejection sensitivity. Pretty typical of a child born in America’s participation trophy generation.
>>722297249Skill duel. Duel to death. Mano a mano. Mann gegen Mann. Means no mobs. No trash. 1 vs 1. The Kino. Cinema. Apex of skill.Karmelita is a woman who hides behind a men. She will never be kino. Her fight is a dogshit. This is how skill duel looks likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT66YPk0Q5wTake notes.
>>722297513>RedditspacingAll easy games for casuals who want to pretend they're good at games, all games I beat.Go LARP somewhere else, Soulstranny.
>>722297570>posts tranimeThanks for letting me know I can discard your entire post without even bothering to read it.
wow this 3+3 poison damage sure annihilates the 1800 hp boss better just hit her 200 times with low damage attacks
>>722297594 You’re full of shit and desperate for attention. You’ve got nothing interesting to say. Not a singular original thought.
>>722297742>n-nuh uh!I accept your concession. Your rollslop games are piss easy.
>>722297321>"tranimepedo">shitsong eater is sharty tourist zoomerLMAOMAO
>Finally made it to Lost Verdania>Huge ass area with no benches meaning you have to die and go to the outside bench to update the map>Obviously cut zone with Mario tier "collect the coins" minigames thrown in>Some kind of pogo puzzle that unlocks a fountain that isn't even needed to unlock the boss?Act 3 did not exist within the game a year ago.
Will I enjoy this series if the only Metroidvanias I like are Super Metroid and Metroid Planets (Metroid 1 mod)? I got bored by Ori because everything just looks too samey and I'm interested in Blasphemous aesthetics and the world but the movement looks sluggish and not sure how well the power progression is like.
>>722297808>nonsensical buzzword soup meltdownToo much tranime?
>>722297786yeah dark souls would definitely be a better series if every single non-essential square inch of ground to be traversed was covered in spikes and lava and other instant kill surfaceslmaoFace it, this 2dslop looks like its straight out of the 1980s
>>722297843you do need the fountains to unlock the boss you dumb fucking zoomer, READ.
>Karmelita simp is sharty tourist zoomer
>>722281178BasedArchitect is overrated
>>722296710lmao no she isnt, not at all
>>722297932>admits he got filtered by SilksongI'm sure playing a game where you don't have an invincibility button is tough for you.>>722297987She is.I'm right, you're wrong.
>>722297950Nope. You don’t have to get all the orbs to complete the memory. You can either skip the pogo puzzle or skip Palestag, IIRC (or do both and skip I think two of the minor gathering runs)
>>722297843>Lost Verdania>literally no reward but shitty OC DO NOT STEAL gay boss
DUDE LE PC MASTER RACE LOL!!!>uses fucking cheats in games if they run into the slightest obstacles Fucking lol. There are women playing this game on their switch legit and beating it and you can't, let that sink in.
>>722297665Poison cogflies and tacks aren’t a meme because MUH DPS they’re a meme because they’re set and forget and you can focus on avoiding damage without worrying about hunting for openings to punish or making risky plays for advantageous positioning.
>>722298208I use cheats on my Switch too.
>>722298208PCbitches literally aren't gamers, they use mods for every single game in existence until it's so dumbed down you could play it blindfolded. It's why they flip the fuck out at any game that presents a moderate challenge, they're little diaper babies who are used to getting their hands held.
>>722297950I got to the boss, died because I knew I didn't find 2 other fountains, then went back. It only exists to give you extra orbs if you didn't find all the hidden ones.
>>722285362>Deadeye Deepfake>Intravenous>AstlibraH O L Y B A S E DSteve is my role model, The Concierge is my wife, and Karon is my best bro
>>722298208yeah but they are abusing wanderer's crest so they didn't beat the game
>>722298142>no i MUST have a reward for doing content>i CAN'T just have fun and feel some sort of emotional response from overcoming challenging and exploring beautiful areas>if you don't give me a tangible reward for playing your game it is NOT good design>what? feeling awe and wonder at discovering new sights? who the fuck cares about any of that?>intrinsic motivation? personal sense of joy, accomplishment, and amusement? what are any of those???>yes i do buy every single battlepass for the 6 multiplayer games i play, how did you know, boomer???why do you even play games, you rotten little tranny
>>722295965The High Halls gauntlet is pretty kino
>>722298504>it's bad ON PURPOSE
>>722298504No one cares about your gay bug story and shit area, tranny.
>boss spends 70% of the phase invulnerable and hidden while attacks flood the screen"kino" design right
>>722297443No it's not, you're just an ADHD zoomer shitter who couldn't do it and therefore thinks no one can.
>>722298695Tranny
>>722298573Rewards are the flimsiest of pretexts for engaging with challenge. The game is really about the content, not the reward.
what does doing a trivial 20 second runback in between every attempt at the boss actually add to the game though?
>>722298761>>722298609
>>722298609it's about time to go to bed, middle school starts early, tiktoker
>>722298660If Furi and KH2 taught me anything, it’s that>Mission: Survivephases are kino as shit
>>722298142The heart you get can replace any of the other three hearts you need for progression.
>>722279101No it fucking isn't, you get a bench right next to the arena and the only hard part is the 2 big guys at the end. Groal & his runback are far and away the worst part of Siksong
>>722298504>literal fucking sense of pride and accomplishment
>>722298804But Lost Verdania isn’t a shit area. It’s cool, the unique teleporting melee enemies are fun to fight, and the little parkour line challenges were neat. Palestag was a shit boss, but meh.
>>722297512You got me, I didn't completely fill the journal(mainly "enemies" you can't actually fight like the maggots in Bilewater and the worms in Blasted Steps) and I learned after finishing the game that I had missed a duel against Shakra that you can only do in Act 2.
>>722298609>>722298573Low IQ and underage.
>>722298761No one would even explore your Troonia if not for memento (achievement) or possibility to get a new reward. Now everyone knows the entire questline is utter skippable dogshit. The boss is trash too.
>>722298778>the platforming is phase 1I don’t really like it either, Sekiro demonstrated that you CAN put a checkpoint immediately before every boss without cheapening the experience. I think if it were up to me I’d add a bunch of benches before most boss fights. Leave>Groal>all the heart memoriesAlone, the runbacks are clearly an intended part of those.
>>722298880yea there's a difference between swiping your credit card for objective advantages in a multiplayer, supposedly skill based game and overcoming challenges and obstacles in a singleplayer gamethrough your own skill (or just exploring new places with wanderlust) and relishing in the experience. then again, you are 14, so i wouldn't expect you to know anything about anything. go on and cry to your mommy now
>>722298976>>722299075This sharty tranny is amusing.
>>722298923Did you get all the optional uncounted tool upgrades? Discover all 3 options for the Ruined Tool? Did you find and fight ALL the bosses that aren’t required for 100% (apart from Shakra)? Find every single Relic, Cylinder and Materium entry?
>>722299063yeah running up and around the karmelita arena was really fun
>>722299063Last Judge runback is an important part of the game design. Specifically forcing the player to get good at fast platforming if they haven't already, something they will need to be good at for Acts 2 and 3. I took 10+ attempts on Last Judge and by the end of it I had cut the runback time in half and mastered the diagonal pogo.
>>722299075>simping for the gay bug this hardNot required for 100%, and he's not even tied to unlocking act 3. You're better off not even wasting the simple key on him so you don't have to go get the fourth one.
>>722299359alright man. you can go back to the genshin thread now
This...is...so tragic sisters...*cries*
>>722299306Yeah that was sort of stupid, but it’s a minor kind of stupid. I do think opening a quick path back could have been nice. The gauntlet needs to stay though.>>722299342I get the argument conceptually but Last Judge was the wrong boss fight to do that with. You literally JUST dealt with it for Sister Splinter.
>>722297950>>722298128>>722298313I believe you need all orbs to unlock the place where you get the Memento. Could be wrong though
>>722299231I did actually yes. I found all three upgrade options for the Silkshot before deciding to go with the one where Hornet repairs it herself since it's the true version. I upgraded all the tools that can be upgraded as far as I know and I found and beat every boss. With some basic pattern recognition skills it's not hard to locate hidden enemies based just on the placement of empty spots in the journal. The one that gave me the most trouble was the Crawfather because you literally can't find him with logic. Spent over an hour looking for a way through the door to him based on the empty spots after the craw enemies before I randomly got the stupid summons from sitting on a bench. And all the Materium stuff is easy to find.
the only things i had to look up were1) watcher at the edge (i mean what the fuck lol)2) seth's questsorry but with a passion i hate those types of npc quests. no chance i'm finding that on my own nor would i have the motivation to do so if i did randomly stumble upon it
>>722299495Sister Splinter isn't a hard boss though so that shouldn't be the case. People who thought she was hard are just retards who didn't realize you can just cut down the thorns or something. She barely has any attacks and is a giant punching bag. And yes I did her before the nerf, she's presumably even easier now.
>>722299705Nuu gives you a pretty good hint for Watcher, but she only says it once and then goes back to her normal "you've done all my shit already" dialogue so I think most people miss it
Have you tried not dying if you hated the runbacks that much?
>>722299609For context, IIRC the missable bosses that still allow 100% are>Watcher>Zango>Palestag>Shakra duel>Act 2 Garamond duelPlus there are a few wish board bosses you don’t technically have to get but I think it’s pretty obvious you’d get all those naturally while shooting for 100% completion
>>722299754i've never gotten a hint from nuu so i didn't know that. i was just grinding for the last few true entries and saw i missed one. after running around the coral area for a long while i just gave up and looked it up. i guess you CAN potentially notice there's a gap in the ceiling when you first get there in act 2 but it's very hard to spot. it's the only one i missed
HK > SS
>>722299759>crutch maskOof
>only way to retrieve body from final boss fight is to either use a silkeater or menu quit out>no in-game way to continue on playing with full recovery
>>722299884ooooww look at the wee babby who needs to be able to tank 10 hits in a row in his babby game for ickle newbies just learning to play gaems
>>722299995i mean i get the point you're making (although you do have infinite silkeaters, not really much of a problem) but literally why would you engage the final boss without the intention of beating it/retrying it
>>722300069because its the only repeatable bossfight in the entire game
>silksong is too difficult, punishing, and doesn't reward explo-ACK
>>722294417just fucking dash wtf
the relic seeker is the same type of bug from the vaults, right? or am i schizo
>>722299823Got them aside from Shakra.
>>722296904beast crest charged attack glitch/exploit thing
>>722296005there's a soulstranny itt who keeps hating on every gameplay footage
>>722299705>watchernuu will say something about scary thing at the edge of pharloom, a decent hint>sethtotal fucking bullshit. elden ring tier questline. correct me If I'm wrong but there's so little hint to none about this guy. found him in shellwood. he said something about looking to ascent and shits, so my guess would be in blasted step/citadel (I was right) but he wasn't there!!! and went straight to feafest instead ,fucking miyazaki
>>722300129The only context for "repeating" the fight is when you've already beaten it so if you're going for a 2nd time it's your fault if you aren't already at 100%
>>722300324shazam lost twice in the span of a year
>>722300250Yes, you're a schizo for noticing something the game makes blatantly obvious and I'm pretty sure even tells you outright.
>>722299950that's why I wasn't dying *winks*
>>722297243it doesn't seem like a fun sort of skip unfortunately. I'd rather just dance with trobbio
>>722294563I just beat this boss first try without ever going below 60% or watching videos on it or whatever. I'm beginning to think you guys are just lacking in video game skills. And I didn't use any skills. I just went wanderer facetank.
>>722295330THIS is fucking act 3? i don't feel like playing it anymore (already finished the game)
>>722300456>(already finished the game)Not if you didn't do act 3but that's an optional side thing and it's really not that hard
>>722290674pretty cool post desu
>>722277667The thing about Silksong is that it's intentionally designed to be obnoxious. The game's hard just because it annoys the player into losing focus.Endless waves of enemies in gauntlets, long runbacks, random mobs that take your control away with grab attacks that deal 2 masks of damage, contact damage against bosses also being 2 masks of damage, cheap traps and enemy placement, all that stuff is done to be annoying and they're pieces of intentional design.The game being hard is not an issue, the problem is that the approach to difficulty is to just apply a disproportionate punishment to the player. It's lazy design.
>>722300456yes, a hint from mister mushroom's tablet will lead you there
It's kind of lame that sometimes you just get insta killed because an enemy hits you and then immediately teleports on top of you and kills you with contact damage. Retarded design choice.
This thread is a mountain of cope
>>722300571uh huh
>>722300652who?
Seth was fun, Nyleth is not.
>>722300750nyleth is extremely simple but I liked itbasically just a basic pogo exercise but it was neat and unique
>>722300796This. Seth was a kino duel, and Nyleth was just a neat experience overall. They're both what I'd call a good bossfight despite being pretty much opposites.
>>722300746This happens literally all the time with 90% of the enemies. It would make sense that if you're hit and the enemy moves on top of you you get some kind of invulnerability.
>>722300796saw her bossfight coming after the first time I healed mid-air. fun and unique fight, liking it a lot
>>722300750there is no reason seth should be 1185 hp when he blocks so many of your attacks
the runbacks in this game are insane
>>722301434He dies very fast. Without last nail upgrade
>>722301273I'm not lying but I actually don't know what you were talking about. not a flex, I'm just that clueless
>>722300593>Not finding it before that just from sheer gamer's intuition>>722300456Why are you scared, did you not even play the first game? This part is much easier than the hardest platforming challenge in Hollow Knight.
Nyleth is a boss that could have a really fucking wild DLC rematch
>>722300571Why is it lazy exactly? Most of the things you have mentioned require additional game design. The only thing that could qualify as "lazy" is the 2 mask thing, but that's obviously done in order to balance around the 3 mask heal. Whether or not you like how it works is another thing but the intent is not really to "annoy" the player but rather to create a specific tension between needing to hit for mana and being scared of damage.
>>722294563>your entire arsenal only does half his healthyour crafting kits?your architect crest that lets you hold 3 tools?
>>722301434Seth is also very easy. Unlike this asshole flower that pulls out attacks in half a second if you try and get 2 attacks in.
>it's another thread of people pretending that the game is hard, so that they can feel better about being painfully average
>>722301384I was annoyed at Nyleth mostly because I was using Shaman at the time which removes midair healing and the only bench nearby costs rosaries (only 15 but costing any in that situation is enough to be annoying)
>>722301731you just bounce on her face over and over unless she does the big explosion and then you hookshot to the other wall
>NylethWould
>>722300796She needs more HP and one or two more attacks for a final phase. Kinda felt the same about Karmelita but apparently I'm the only one with that opinion
next fromsoft game>giant swamp area>touching it once gives you a debuff you have to use all your estus to remove
>>722301927same>>>/trash/78266958
>>722301926If she starts the spore animation before you hookshot you don't have enough time to make it out. Unless you're already far enough and moving away from her there's no time to get away. Same for when she dashes to the other wall, if you're not on the ground ready to jump you can't do anything to avoid the hit.
>>722301989tsk, If only miyazaki had a ball to do that. only thing he does is pandering to bossfags nowadays
I hate that tools and silk skills are on the same button. I don't remember ever doing vengeful spirit instead of howling wraiths in Hollow Knight.
No
>>722302087yeah if you get unlucky with the timing you might not be able to get out of the explosion but it's fine since you have full silk all the time since you attack constantly and can heal midair(RIP shaman) if you're bouncing on her face the dash to the other wall just goes under you and then you hookshot at her and go back to bouncingshe dies in like two minutes and you can ignore literally every attack she does except the big explosion which will only hit you sometimes and has no chance of killing you
>>722302087lol whatyou can even make it out with a simple dash AFTER the animation, if your reaction time is good enough. hookshot is way faster
>>722302095Funny how even the Souls series introduced respawning next to bosses, when Hollow Knight wouldn't even exist without Dark Souls.
>this game is too hard artificial difficulty tedious hard nobody enjoys it stop forcing yourself to play it>also fuck you I'm not going to change my build you didn't beat the game there's no way the challenge levels are proportional to the things I'm using fuck you I'm going to be a strength wizard
>>722282621one thing I really don't get is people that complain that rosary strings are "bad exploration rewards" and that they can't be bothered to do things for then, then turn around and complain that the economy is unbalanced and they're too poor all the time
so I got to Father of the Flame but if all I get is some stupid trinket that I won't use I see no reason to defeat him. So they have all these optional bosses you kill just for the hell of it
>>722302631Kill yourself.
>>722302531Rosary Strings are goodbut way too many hidden areas just have 20 loose rosaries on ropes and 5 of them will roll into spikes and get deleted when you smack them.
>>722302631yea it's called having fun with the game you're playing
>>722302531They're two different complaints. Rosaries are bad rewards because they're boring one-note resources that generically fit into every area. If the game spams them too much as rewards and then has you buy all the shit from shops, instead of directly putting that shit in the map instead of the rosaries, it feels underwhelming. I don't necessarily care about it but it can be argued that there's not enough UNIQUE pickups/drops for a game this big. A lot of stuff is bundles/rosaries that you then turn in at one of the various scam shops across the game. HK in comparison was both smaller and more packed with unique rewards (even though HK also suffered from the "I did this whole mini platforming challenge behind a hidden wall for a fucking wanderer journal" syndrome
>>722302631killing father of flame makes the wisp thicket into the best possible shortcut between bellhart and the citadel for easier deliveries
>>722302457>Yeah man I beat Malenia in 2 minutes with summons, I dunno why everyone is complaining easy fight she never even got to attack once
>complete the megafaggot flea circus challenges>upgrade from hivesteel to pale steel needle>HOLY SHIT FINALLY 5TH UPGRADE>go fight lost lace>damage per hit taken from 17.85 -> 19.95>takes 90 hits to kill instead of 100uh yeah sure I guessthat's some upgrade....definitely worth the challenge...
>>722302682The game has enough yellow slots that you never need to unequip the rosary magnet.
>>722302791ironically enough malenia is probably the only fight in the game that doesn't get trivialized by ash summons because she will just rape them with lifesteal
>>722302687I disagree exactly because this massively improves on HK. In HK money basically did not matter at all because the game showers you with relics and money drops from bosses. The economy there was completely pointless after the early game. Silksong making you have to actually budget your money makes these kinds of rewards way more valuable, and I was always excited for relics there because of dedicated lore too.There are a few places where the reward is just 30 rosaries, but from what I remember those were usually very trivial secrets. More involved challenges tended to give you at least a hundred or more. The game also gives you strings/necklaces much more often which feels better because then you can't die and feel like you just threw away the stuff you worked for.
>>722302791The point is>cry about how challenging the game is>while creating a challenge entirely by yourself and refusing to adapt with the tools the game gives you
>>722302925I mean most rewards in SS aren't nearly enough money to matter. Farming one of the two good spots in the citadel for 5 minutes nets you enough rosaries to buy any item in the game, so you don't REALLY have to care about the economy.And again it just feels deflating to find a hidden area, beat some enemies, do a couple parkour jumps, and you get 30 rosaries. The simple key door in High Halls is by far the biggest offender.
>>722302273How could that be? the lead dev has never played dark souls before. say whatever you what but you can't deny miyazaki has gone soft with diluted formula and constant checkpoints. He used to be better
>>722302925forget it. nothing will change these faggots' minds about the economy. if you can't buy everything as soon as you get to the vendor it's bad game design. if you only have to pick out one or two items that interest you at the current moment instead of buying every useless thing that you're never gonna use, it's bad game design. nevermind the fact that rosary drops are very well paced and bountiful enough that you can buy everything in due time. it's just bad design bro. this is just how normies think and nothing you say will change that
>>722302457It makes sense to call someone out for handicapping themselves if they're refusing to equip a tool or use the clawline or something, but I think all bosses should at least be reasonable to fight with every crest.
>>722303034I guess I just can't relate to that sort of thinking then. For me the money reward at the end is just icing. The real reason I'm playing the game is BECAUSE I can find a hidden area, I can beat some tough enemies, I can do fun parkour jumps.
>>722303197the advent of battlepasses and gacha-style daily/weekly missions means this line of thinking has all but died amongst normies. why do you think so many people are complaining about "unrewarding exploration." as if exploration isn't rewarding in and of itself
