Deadlock just got an update
ow my spirit jars
I might play viper now (also this is just another fucking numbers update where the hell is my boho)
>leaker who was right about the hideout update said that there would be global movement nerfs coming in preparation for a casual non-ASSFAGGOTS gamemode>this update: walljumps after the first cost .5 stamina, nerfed corner boosting by 20%, and jumping causes a 10% accuracy debuff for .15 seconds>also leaked a trolldier gnome hero in the worksoh yeah, it's all coming together
m-may I get an invite?
>>722282030post id
>>72228245976561198296924668
>>722282742i think you need at least one game to get accepted brah
>>722282872I have games, wait a sec, my profile might be private
>too old to start assfaggots agenis it possible to play this game without sweating? I already have an invite, but the amount of keybinds was giving me dota ptsd. Still just as bad?
>>722282985you have 4 abilities, wasd, space bar, ctrl and 4 active items which you don't even need to use all 4, its not that bad
>>722282985no
>>722282985expect some casual modes soon
Nigga, just add a deathmatch mode like Smite
>>722282985Of course it's possible but don't expect to win or be popular.That's just my opinion, though.
Deadlock died when they've decided to go 3 lane.
>>722281824source?
>>722280704>third person mobaslop in the year 2025 Absolutely no one cares
>>722284751this guy>>722283356
>>722281824>>722283356>Muh casual modesDeadlock as a shooter is complete dogshit thoughbeit, it makes Marvel Rivals look good.
>>722285787because the damage values are scaled for a moba gamemodethere's nothing inherently worse about deadlock's shooting once you have enough items to feel powerful, and a gamemode without items would skip that step
>Uh.... cheesed to meet you pendejo
>>722286216>Some value changes will fix thatThird person shooters have shit gunplay by default
>>722281824>>722283356>>722285787i fully expect this game to get casualed down pretty fucking hard so that it appeals to the lowest common denominatoranything that takes more than 30-60 seconds to wrap your head around is probably going to get removed or toned down>sinner box>crate/buddhas>shops in lane and secret shops>bullet evasion>powerups>the whole underground>teleportersi wouldnt be surprised if valve tried to force a lane meta like league of legends and even changing guardians/walkers to be exactly like league too
I really don't know how a casual mode is meant to work. So much of the heroes mechanics is tied up into all the items and progression shit. Even if you managed to take all that out you'd probably end up with what >>722285787 says.It just feels like it would be a giant wake up call that Deadlock's actual combat isn't all that great and it was only ever liked for the shameless build autism in the first place.
>>722286661forgot parrying and heavy melee too
>>722285787I disagree purely because of the movement.
>>722286661I thought icefrog was working on this thingif that's the case it's never going to be THAT dumbed down because he'll be autistic about keeping some things
>>722286710You can have item progression outside of an ASSFAGGOTS context. I could see something like horde defense (MvM) or a L4D-like mode working well with that, because they both give ways to earn and spend money. More than that, you can have a bunch of other "casual" MOBA modes like Arena from Smite or most of the maps from HotS (which is one of the best things about that game: it has tons of maps, many of which have different objectives than just pushing lanes). I could see Deadlock working really well at those modes because the core gameplay is much more involved than a typical MOBA, and the actual map of Deadlock is honestly more complex than most MOBA maps (because of verticality, the sheer volume of jungle camps, stuff like Sinner's Sacrifice and statues, etc.)
>>722286661>i fully expect this game to get casualed down pretty fucking hard so that it appeals to the lowest common denominatorisn't that what happened to dota2? from what I heard that game is fucking shit now.
>>722286710but the build autism is what makes it great.
>>722281824>Icefrog thought he could make DOTA3 with guns and bring in millions of shooterchads>Now that has failed he thinks he can add some half assed hero shooter modes and bring in millions of shooterchadsWhy would anyone want to play a MOBA shooter? Its like playing marvel rivals but with 20 minutes of farming before the game starts and DEI inspired heroes instead of superheroes.
it really doesn't take long to understand how the game works, MOBA mechanics are infinitely easier to learn than curing aimlet status unless you're legitimately retarded and refusing to interact with the system in which case you get punished by repeatedly having your shit pushed init's already fairly basic and you eventually learn the map just by exploring and playing it, you can scrape by not knowing niche mechanics if you just play someone braindead like Mo and Krill and spam ult every time someone's in front of you. The biggest issue will be the influx of new players on open beta/release that will have to inevitably go against people with 2+ years worth of experience and knowledge repeatedly beating the piss out of them unless they unfuck the matchmaking
>>722286926>Its a good shooter because it has a slide, dash and wall jump.kek
>>722287407>and DEI inspired heroesIt's less DEI than Apex, Valorant, Overwatch and LoL.
>>722287546>The biggest issue will be the influx of new players on open beta/release that will have to inevitably go against people with 2+ years worth of experience and knowledge repeatedly beating the piss out of them unless they unfuck the matchmakingthat already happensMatchmaking is completely fucked right now because everyone is stuck on ranks and more often than not teammates also have huge disparities in rank and skill because most players are on initiate 1 trough 5.however even players who are good are stuck on initiate because for some reason you need to win way more to progress.
>>722287546>Unintutive MOBAslop mechanics are easy to learnThe problem with deadlock is why learn all the retarded MOBAslop mechanics just to play a subpar shooter?Its not worth the effort
>>722286661What is even the point of all the layers to begin with? It's not hard to understand if you're willing to engage with it, but my hangup tends to be when you start to consider this is a third person MOBA that had a heavy DOTA influence. Who was this realistically going to be developed for? And for the testing period to be open and public so far from release, they've already created a scenario where the playerbase will cannibalize itself. It has something of a good feel to it and it's got the Valve bonus, but where else would they have gone except casualize it? The way actually skilled matches played out was so mind numbingly retarded in concept that it's hard to believe they would have ever shipped the final product.I don't think the devs will force lane metas I think everyone at Valve understands there is a certain degree of casual shit you can implement without it taking away player agency. But a market still has to be captured.
>>722287906I don't understand the point of rankings past emissary/archon with the number system they're using
>>722288232everyone from emissary and above are mostly people who were playing since forever
>>722288202Supposedly the new gamemode won't have lanes and is spearheaded by a group of devs that want to appeal to a casual audience, and the standard mode will continue to be filled with idiosyncrasies for high level autism.
>>722287546>The biggest issue will be the influx of new players on open beta/release that will have to inevitably go against people with 2+ years worth of experience and knowledge repeatedly beating the piss out of themIs this an "influx" is exactly 1 person in this hypothetical? It would just be noobs vs noobs. What.
Having different mechanics/stat values in different modes is a bad idea
>>722288357That's true, but I'm more talking about the distribution being all fucked up. There is no point to half the rankings because they're all tail ended to the right.
>>722287709Still is.Valve is officially part of Embracer's club
>>722289164Less than all those other games.
>>722288547>skipping the "unless they unfuck the matchmaking" partcurrent matchmaking is completely broken and a vast chunk of the playerbase is in the lowest rank regardless of skill level
>>722281824the jumping changes are a buff, before you couldn't shoot at all during that first .15s, now you can with an extremely minor accuracy penalty that doesn't matter because every character in this game uses a fucking shotgun, has a gun that shoots watermelons or just sprays 40 bullets a second
>>722281824>this update: walljumps after the first cost .5 stamina, nerfed corner boosting by 20%, and jumping causes a 10% accuracy debuff for .15 secondsgreat changes, I should jump back insome movement stuff is good but deadlock is way too autistic about it
>>722287263No?
>>722287263dota kept stacking new gimmick mechanics on top of the game every year or two to keep things interesting, so now it's 70% gimmicks
Sick of all the tendies crying that ASSFAG mechanics are bad. You got filtered, you are too slow and low iq and you refuse to learn. The genre shouldn't bend over backwards to retain you, just so you can fuck off to the next big thing.Remember that assfaggots players have the highest iq average of any genre, it does not suck, you are just an indolent nigger.
>>722280913oof right in the soul orbs
>>722291109>Remember that assfaggots players have the highest iq average of any genrethen why do they keep whining and getting movement nerfed?
>>722291109>Remember that assfaggots players have the highest iq average of any genreautism score
>>722291109MOBAs are the genre for shitters who arent good at anything else so they had create their own autistic genre with hundreds of items and heroes to memorise and make every single mechanic unintuitive.
>>722287709>>722289319League doesn't seem all that DEI.
>>722280704>ivy nerfsAt this point, it must be tradition
>>722291109>good way of designing a shooter game mode: the game length scales with how balanced the teams are, balanced games last long, unbalanced games end incredibly quickly, focus entirely on playing against enemy players since that's what you're playing for>assfaggots: can figure out you're playing a losing game and still have things drawn about by 10-20 minutes, significant portion of your time spent not even shooting enemy players, the NPCs not even particularly complex
>>722283518valve would win bigly
>>722280704Cute Paige
>>722280913>it should have been me
>>722296214
I drew the Doorman
>>722300332POV: krill got sent to the baronness without mo
>>722280704Why is she a coomer?
>targeted Lash nerfs>every other core Lash item also nerfed>movement tech commonly used by Lash also nerfedDid Icefrog just get dunked on by a Lash player recently or what? His performance at every level has been totally mediocre and he has exactly one viable build. He's not even overperforming in the "pro" (lmao) games.
>>722300332Good drawing anon
>>722300332ITs kino
>>722300332Its shit. You forgot his devil horn cowlicks.
Did they fix Paige's dragon's dogshit pathing? Shit goes everywhere except forward.
>>722300641lashdog deserves it
>>722300641The Lash tanked that
Vyperbros, what are her new buffs like?
The black woman οf Valve unoriginality.These are TWO different characters.
>>722300332my hero
Drifter is too fun especially against fuckers that die when you sneeze at them like Vyper.Speaking of Vyper, thoughts on the mini rework?
>>722300332>Eldritch being decides to serve humanity for a while instead of torturing, posing as (or possessing) a doormanWhy does this work despite sounding like a shit idea?
>>722293496Brown champs in general count as DEI.
>>722303719Sounds like a fine idea to me
>>722301875you're late anon, reminder artifact was never going to be good and it was a good idea to abandon it
>>722304365I'm just saying I could've seen it going in a much worse direction than what we did get.Same with Drifter honestly, murder hobo vampire sounds like it could've been so bad in certain hands.
Which Deadlock women are into black men?
>>722304446just a matter of restraint and understanding that you're building a setting first, a story second
>>722304446iirc someone posted the idea in the forums and it sounded as lame as you would expect. valve made it really cool when they took the concept.
>>722304532Seems like it's only Holiday, everyone else wants Victor's cock (Except for Vyper who wants Lash and settles for Billy).
>>722304532ivy contrary to popular belief, paige is not interested in blacks, she only fucks dogs
>>722304925Nah, Ivy wants that stiched together cock.https://youtu.be/Yk0qrsxu_TU?t=316
>>722293496>Zesty Gay Nigger based on a drug addicted buck broken singer, is not DEI LOL
>>722280704>Ivy nerfed>movement slightly nerfed>McGinnis and all the (Gun) items I actually use are largely unaffectedNothingburger update.
>>722280704>fixed Doorman frame drops>lategame spirit damage is still hot dogshitGunman it is
>>722306138Gunman isn't as fun as trapping your enemies in spawn and throwing every CC item at them.
This game was once criticized for it's commander roles but other than that it does the whole laning moba crap 100000000000 times better than deadturd and it's an actual skill based human vs monster shooter.Imagine if jews at valve took interested on this instead of counter strike slop or dota.
>>722301828Pretty shit, as long as the dagger can't be casted while sliding it's gonna be meh at best.
>>722306207I love his cart but that long ass cooldown makes every miss feel like complete pain, especially since sometimes it doesn’t feel like it’s hitbox works, could snatch someone 3 feet away or have to be dead on, I know it’s not my internet connection or the servers, I’ve seen it in other peoples gameplay
>>722287407marvel rivals is such a shit gameare character models really your number one priority in multiplayer online games?>acting like the first 20 minutes don't matter
>>722281824I hope the leaks about the spawn and patron changes aren’t too far off, the Patron doesn’t do any damage and the leftover VR ball look doesn’t define them enough, the spawn is barebones so anything would be a upgrade really
>>722287263the opposite happened.
>>722307865I hope the guardian and walker changes don't come to pass. The leaked ones aren't bad, but I like the torch head and giant kiln.
>>722287407>DEI inspiredevery character in Deadlock is actually well designed so that’s a lie
>>722307918>guardian and walker changesNever heard of this, seems odd when they seem pretty finalized, maybe the guardian could use some animation updates but I hope they don’t radically change them
please Sir, may I have an invite...
>>722306375No one is playing your game
'vy on the /v/
>>722307795Marvel Rivals is a better shooter than deadlock, that was my point.deadlock's dogshit DEI hero designs are just the icing on top.>But muh 20 minutes of farming NPCs and hitting boxes is importantDidn't say it wasn't important just mind numbingly boring. No one wants to play a shooter with 20 minutes of ASSFAGGOTS chores every game.
>>722308940No hefty latinas. I play video games to escape reality. Only wholesome gargoyle.
>>722281824>>in preparation for a casual non-ASSFAGGOTS gamemode>tfw TF3 might become real
>>722286661The reason why I love deadlock is the movement, gunplay, builds, and laning. This game feels like your in a shonen anime battle, specially when you doing a melee build. This game is better than rivals because in rivals its a nonstop button mash were you can't plan out your attacks or strategy because everyone is smashing buttons and seething, calling someone to switch or some bullshit. So the team who feed less wins, while in deadlock your team can feed and still win if you kick ass in jungle phase, or if you get urn successfully, or autistic Ivy main farms the whole game. In deadlock you can learn you enemies behaviors and change up your play style to counter them and I think it being shooter enables that type of flexible gameplay.
Billy is so fucking fun man. For some reason, he is a better "turn brain off and face smash buttons to melee" than Abrams to me. Only thing better is when fighting a Billy and grabbing rebuttal.
>>722309772Well we are in time for the memes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_4VjWNUb2E
>>722308725>newfag doesn't know about boomer shooters who tried the whole rts/moba shooter crap before he was even bornfigures
>this isn't a stealth coffin thread
>>722310980>stealthwhen have those ever been stealth
Would you go to Infernus' bar? You get to drink with Abrams and Holiday.
>>722286661Some of the elements are unnecessary in a way that just lets people tryhard even harder rather than actually be conducive to gameplay.>pachinko that gives you unsecured souls and if you time it right you gain extra bonuses, this is completely optional and if you don't do it someone else in the enemy team will do it>insignificant buffs like -1% cooldowns, you'll never get them to a significant amount during a match but who knows MAYBE it will be decisive in a fight once every 20 matches so you can't risk it, you need to take them>soul orbs that are the game's own denying mechanic, would ideally punish proxy-farming (given the long ranges at which attacks can be made) that would otherwise stall pushes but in practice it's mostly punishing people for not participating in the minigameUnderground and teleporters are fine but bullet evasion doesn't feel good in a game where you actually have to aim to attack, wouldn't be surprised if it was removed or was a gimmick for a very low amount of characters.>>722300641Lash's nerf is a pointless "his winrate is a little bit higher than I'd like so maybe this will shave off about 0.3% off of it" one. His ultimate is untouched despite being what actually decides games. Seven has been hit non-stop with nerfs in almost every update because they don't realize giving the bullet-based hero a hard 2 second AoE stun is not only Wraith's ultimate but also interrupts channels, ultimates and gives him precious time to gun someone down, and that if they nerfed Static Charge he would stop being so powerful. Oh, and his ultimate is strong but that just got nerfed.
>>722311027Since the sick fucks running this website began their LITERAL GENOCIDE against our threads!!!
>>722311143I haven't even been to a bar before at all in my life cause I've never drank my entire life.
lil monke fella
Do you prefer the more "normal" looking Yamato rework concept art or this one?
>>722286661I don't think the defenses need to be as juiced as League turrets but ever since I started playing Deadlock I've felt like Guardians/Walkers/Patrons are too inconsequential to take down. Seems like any character left unattended can take down a building alone in 30 seconds once they've gotten a couple items under their belt. The base twinguardians are a complete joke, by the time a team actually reaches base they can sneeze and crumble both of them.
>>722280704>please know these 4572 items and mechanical interaction to properly play the gameMobas are only fun if it's your main game, a hobby that you play continuously. I've been learning new shit in so many games for 30 years. I'm tired boss.
>>722311143I would but probably bail the second mobsters start showing up, wouldn’t mind if the bar was findable during the “explore NYC” option and there was a random character sitting at the counter
>>722300332Is your monitor uncalibrated or something, why is there 0 contrast & saturation? Didn't even realize there other characters in the background at first
>>722311556I like this one better, but Yamato being the head of a crime family but also a part of a Japanese paranormal academy is a fun idea.
>>722311619I remember game mechanics easier than basic math and I don’t understand why, when math is applied to game mechanics I can crunch numbers like a savant
>Mina can melt objectives a little faster than a gun carry largely because of a poorly thought out interaction with a particular item>Halve her ult's damage>Remove the spirit burn interaction>Mostly remove her early game sustain>Nerf her escape's cooldownSo they pretty much kneecapped every single thing she's good at, while not even bothering to fix how shitty her ult is against people who aren't actively being Dynamo-ulted, how unfortunate
>>722281824>nerfing the movement tech for a non advantageous modeWhat the fuck is wrong with valve. The movement tech is the only fucking thing I like!
>>722311950It's a definitely higher ranked based nerfs, her early game was actually oppressive in the right hands.
>>722286661Utterly baseless doomposting.
>>722307930Not every. Some still have holdover models from Neon Prime.
>>722311169>>pachinko that gives you unsecured souls and if you time it right you gain extra bonusesWhat the fuck, I thought the Sinner's Sacrifice machines were a fixed low % chance of getting 4 buffs, not a minigame like Active Reload.How are you supposed to get them then?I miss when they always gave 1 buff upon destruction.
>>722312156Absolutely, though the balance to that was that she has the durability of a paper plate and an already long cooldown on her survivability skill. It feels like the appropriate nerf was to fix Spirit Burn and probably kneecap Rake the way they did since it was a large part of why she was oppressive. Fixing her ult's tracking would be a way to normalize a little bit of the huge skill gap she has between top and entry level players without necessarily making her busted.
>>722312375The lights on top of the machine. Once you do the four punches they start counting up, until all are lit up and flashing. If you heavy melee at the right time when they are flashing, you get all 4 buffs.The timing is waiting until only 2 bulbs are unlit then starting the heavy melee.
>>722312375IIRC before it breaks it starts filling up its lights one by one and if you time a heavy melee just as the light bar is completely full you gain extra souls and some golden statue bonuses
>>722286596thank god someone on staff realized how dogshit this was, hopefully that fat bastard Viscous rework got thrown in the trash too
>>722287906I'm over 400 hours in and I recently played with someone who was asking for tips on his hero's and some item's mechanics. Granted, and I actually fucking suck at this game, I don't think I deserve to be above Seeker.
>>722291109The real telling factor that someone got filtered is that they are actively hating the game/genre instead of just saying "it's not for me".
>>722309772>TF3 will be Deadlock because the 9 mercenary roles are already flexible enough to accomodate>it becomes a surprise hit and TF2 playercount plummets>BREAKING NEWS: Mass suicide event has taken place at Uncle "Jim Jones" Danes' private farm. Upwards of thousands of trannies ACKed themselves...etc.Ain't gonna happen sadly, but a new and fun alternative gamemode to bring in numbers is highly appreciated
>>722312354Even the most dogshit Deadlock models are leagues upon leagues above any DEI design in the modern industry and that other Anon is delusional
>>722312459>>722312465Well that's a load of bullshit. At least it really does feel like gambling by staking something in return for reward.Thanks anons
>>722312816I will never not laugh that Dane's bitching about Deadlock and "accidentally" leaking it led to more people to the playtest and helped Valve course correct the game hard.
>first win>did very well early>but got carried hard late>the second lowest net worth even when I clear waves like a maniacStill shit was fun, for once it feel nice not to feed and get kills in lane.
Slork
>>722311820I am just not using color filters/masks or any other post process tools. I feel like relying on these tools is not a good way to draw, and I am learning to do aspects, such as textures, lights and shadows etc, by hand
>>722312951Rip
>>722312951the best day of bein dead is the best day of bein alive
>>722312910>I will never not laughDeadlock flopped and uncle Dane was right>Helped them correct courseHoly cope, the game has gotten worse over the last year.>Biggest update yet>All the big streamers playing again>1/3rd of the peak from last time>Dying againThis game is a huge failure.
>>722312910I will never forgive the likes of him and other newfag post-f2p e-celebs for ruining TF2's discourse.Back in the day we only had clips and replays on Youtube, alongside gmod shit. Now you have to worship some kind of nigger guru's crappy opinion on the game and if you play contrary to it you're a (insert r*ddit-safe insult here). One time somebody in the ingame chat claimed that I follow some other random e-celeb faggot because of something I said, which was against the sagely remarks a different e-celeb faggot who he follows, as if you can't discuss anything TF2 without referring to the "pillars of the community" first. Absolutely disgusting.If it wasn't for dedicated servers I would wish for TF2 to be shut down like other games just to spite the awful community.
>>722280913Will they ever make melee not crappy, the parry stun has no right to be that long
>>722314025Myup, it's no longer "Find the community that is right for you in the game" it is "Bitch and moan that the game isn't to some e-celeb's standards". Don't get me wrong, I have gripes with the way that Valve has handled TF2 and if they want to tweak the vanilla experience, then they better support it BUT some of the wild directions people want to take the game would be better off in community servers.
>>722310557the thing i like most is that i can absolutely murder minathe confusion and panic in their eyes when they try to run from me but mashing 2 does nothing is just so good
>>722311556I think the best compromise is normal but she turns into a Hannya when she ults.
>>722314195>play engie more aggressive than sitting behind a turret for the entire match>’Uncle Dane wannabe’>Play Trolldier at all>’Star/LazyPurple wannabe’>play Demoknight and don’t die in 20 seconds>’Solarlight wannabe’do people just think unlocking weapons is locked behind a youtube account or am I supposed to run stock while running directly into bullets like a broken spinbot
>>722314195>community serversMost players are braindead and don't even use these unless it's a 2shart or fagtower server where trannies hang (heh) out.I don't know what are the memes against skial, but it's some of the few vestiges of true community servers.
I do hope they recycle Warden's british police look for another hero when he gets his model rework.
>>722280704I would have a 100% winrate on Paige if only teams actually played together.Every fucking game consists mostly of one or two retards that try to take on the entire enemy team have have to be bailed out.
how the fuck do I play this? all my so called friends don't have it.
>>722314582go to the steam forums, lots of threads for invites there
>>722314516Who uhh... who is Paige with in pic related?
Wasn't there a big Halloween patch coming up, wonder why bother with this small one
>>722314670Halloween patch might be for visual updates vs this gameplay related one.
>>722314614thanks for the tip bud
>>722314663Me :)
>>722311950>Halve her ult's damageAgainst objectives. Also, Wraith's teleport is on a 48s cooldown before leveling and is worse since she can't change her trajectory or dodge stuff twice.The character was, probably still is, fucking painful to play against on lane if she was not played by a someone new to the game or character.
>>722314487Oh no please leave it alone. Just fix the weird vertices, add a cape as it should have had and it's fine.I know the combo of London bobby but serious edgelord doesn't seem right, but at this point no alternative looks appropriate.On a related note, there should be a Yasunori Katō like character to fit in with the occult theming. Could be Yamato's nemesis since they might be adding character links to each other, though it would be bad design as well since they can end up on the same team.
>>722283356>TF2If that's true then that's disappointing, TF2tards are never happy and will only ever play TF2, they should not concern themselves with them, also there's like 20000 of them, it's not a big group
>>722304532everyone but CalicoCalico fucking hates black men
I've been trying to think of a hero that leans into the four horsemen but can't think of a good theme that wouldn't be something obvious. Was thinking abilities be something like>Pestilence bombs: Throwable with charges that leaves a gas cloud linger that does damage over time with an upgrade with it jumping to nearby enemies if an enemy dies to the effects>Famine wave: Something like silence wave that slows enemies down both in move speed and fire rate.>War: Some sort of self heal based on damage? >Death ult: Just fucking Reaper's Scythe from DOTA 2 with changed numbers.Closest theming for this hero that I can think of that could be "out there" is someone possessed by an Ixian artifact that he tried to smuggle during the Ixian war.
>>722314487The jacket not having sleeves was a weird decision. He has this weird mercenary feel due to that.
>>722311903either way I'm ready for her retarded code lyoko forehead to be gone
Lady Geist sexo
>>722315778I think they'll keep that since her ult makes her hard to hit, but having a large crit hitbox balances itthough being such a melee-oriented character, who knows
>got an invite>"btw, if you’re feeling generous, I accept money *wink wink* ;-)"huh
>>722311950Mina is stupidly oppressive and very hard to catch but she scales worse than Infernus who has a similar poking gimmick
>>722315443A four horsemen hero should ride a motorcycle
>>722317184>Biker possessed by four spirits that served as the inspiration of the horsemenNot a bad idea...
>>722318042>Old school biker with the big hat and big shades>Has a ghost motorcycle that appears in the abilities>Dashing is the wheels temporarily appearing>Pestilence ability is a dash forward leaving behind an exhaust fume>Famine ability is a flash from the front headlight>War ability... dunno>Death ability is the full cycle being summoned to encircle an enemyFund it.
>>722281824>>this update: walljumps after the first cost .5 stamina, nerfed corner boosting by 20%, and jumping causes a 10% accuracy debuff for .15 secondsgood, spazzing through the map like a retard is not a good design
why are seven players like this
>>722319316I like Seven as a hero, but most seven players are shit.Just had a game where Seven ran into me twice as Paige and insta-ulted, I just walked away but he kept going for the full duration both times. The third time, he just ate Mina's ult to the face and died, still refusing to cancel his fucking ult.
>>722311996the movement tech of bouncing back and forth between two walls like a bitch to stay out of enemy headshot line of sight?air stalling was gay
>>722319316seven players are twisted fucking psychopaths.
>>722320262like my penis
>>722293005>>722291109i like moba but i dont want to play a TPS moba
>>722308678did u get one?if not post profile
>>722321252not yet. file name is my steam ID
>>722283356>>722281824Smartest thing Valve has ever did.Deadlock is a genuinely fantastic IP that is too good to be wasted on a fucking MOBA.There might actually be hope for this game.
>>722319316Seven players are a force beyond reckoning, beyond understandingAll you can do about them is cope as best you can
YOUR KINGDOM COMEYOUR WILL BE DONEON EARTHAS IT IS IN HEAVEN
>>722321496i still cant believe valve is adding a no bullshit catholic priest hero to the game
>>722280704Why this motherfucker a bellboy when he is over 30?
>No Sinclair changeswhat is Icefraud cooking?
>>722321496When are we fucking getting this hero>>722321904Sinclair isnt an icefraud hero. Hopoo made him
>>722304385
>>722304385If they wanted to play Artifact they should had played Marvel Snap, it's the closest thing related to it so far
Vindicta, Bebop and Paradog were overnerfed
so is this another moba game where you have to memorize every character kit and item to start enjoying it?
There is no better feeling playing like a retard with melee in the laning phase to consistently bait people out with the parries.
>>722322423if you are that much of a spazz you are in an ELO where it wont matter
>>722287338>and it was only ever liked for the shameless build autism in the first place.>but the build autism is what makes it great.?
>>722322423Unfortunately it seems like theyre adding a casual nonmoba mode eventually
>>722321496I wonder if he is on good terms with the Baxter society, I imagine him like Alexander Anderson from Hellsing where he probably respects other monster hunters but sees them as heathens for not following in the light of the lord.
>>722322918Definitely a possibility that he respects other hunters.
>>722322918Grey Talon respects him and he founded the society.
How do you even build in this game?
>>722321523I just hope he isn’t a retarded zealot archetype it feels like that’s the only way the they’re written
>>722323195An interesting thing would be how he would be with Ixians, since they are the creatures that the religious basis of Demons came from.Considering the burn on his face it might not be too fondly.
>>722322817Aren't the majority of players in the bottom rank regardless of skill at the moment?Not to mention not memorising ever ability of every hero would is pretty normal and reasonable. I mean that's 128 different abilities right now. And I think you can reasonably be irritated about not knowing what this one fucker can do regardless of ELO.
>>722323365Most abilities are pretty to understand what they do after you see it once.The only one that I had to look up what is actually happening is Billy with his 3.
>"OH GOD IS TALKING TO ME"
>>722311950It was a nerf aimed at high skill ranked gameplayMina is only good if the player is competent, she was extremely oppressive beforeI used to get away with so much bullshit I normally shouldn't The only nerf that was too much was killing her sustain, she is a squishy character that can't even trade anymore so you have to play like a bitch in lane now, twice as much
>>722323365most 'players' are in that bracket because they aren't ranked and don't play the game
>>722323456>This is what the insane maniac who escaped Lost Whisper to achieve apotheosis is afraid of.
>>722323283Doorman and Drifter imply he's like a loyal hunting dog of the Vatican. Who knows how that will pan out for his character though.
>>722322423>do I have to learn this competitive game I am playing?Yes, if you're planning to play with and against people of basic competency level>>722323215Figure out what your hero can do and hat you want to do with it, and itemize accordingly. Want to hurt more with skills? Buy spirit shit. Want to shoot better? Buy orange. Enemy builds gun? Buy bullet resist. Gradually learn wht items do and think of the situations their unique effects might be relevant.Alternatively, if you don't wanna think, just copy some public build (be advised, some of them are retarded)
>>722323535Is the Vatican in the world of Deadlock the Vatican before or after the Second Vatican Council? Would have large implications on his character desu.
>>722323810There would already be a big change in the Vatican after it is revealed that "Demons" are actually interdimensional creatures that the US promptly went to war with.
>>722323810is that the thing Mel Gibson was going on about
>>722323810>>722323865Only other lore we have about him is that he's apparently called the "Sword of St. Benedict".I'd assume in the Deadlock world where magic exists, that means miracles exists too right? And that potentially bolsters the strength of the Vatican if Jesus was a real magic man.
>>722323215You have to realise that you get stats for holding on to items of each colour in addition to the stats on the items for a lot of the item pool to read well.
>>722283356>>722286661I'm absolutely fine with this if they separate the casual side and the competitive side. If the casual side bleeds over to the competitive side you'll just end up with a complete mess.
>>722323865But which direction would they take it in?>>722323973He's been on about it for years.
>>722293005What unbridled cope.They require the most skill, you need:To be able to multitask wellTo have quick decision makingTo have lasting object permanence and have an idea of where the enemy that is not showing on the map isTo know how to microTo be intelligent and creative enough to build perfect counter itemsYou do not meet a third of this, if at all, go back to fifa, spic.
>>722323487they didn't nerf love bites at all, she still outtrades anyone in lanethey nerfed her in the mid game because she isn't going to be able to heal as much, that's it I'm just happy they nuked her ult's damage on objectives from orbit
>>722324246Despite Ixia kinda disproving "demons", the magic that is real would probably bolster the vatican and really an religion across the globe. The only group that has major trouble with this is Friends of Humanity, but they are assholes so who cares?
Ivy has a line when she kills Priest where she hopes her family doesnt find out what she didBecause her family are spics so theyre probably all catholic and would be licid if they knew she shot a priest lmao
>>722300641>lash nerfshow bad is it?also where do people even find patch notes, the discord?
>>722325025they're on the forums>* Lash: Ground Strike range reduced from 11m to 10m>* Lash: Ground Strike cooldown increased from 19s to 21s>* Lash: Ground Strike damage reduced from 70 to 60he'll be fine
>>722325120And every item he builds got nerfed. And wall jumps got nerfed. Those are the more impactful parts. Yeah, he's dead.
>>722325120They nerfed QSR you fuck
>>722321317I wonder how they'll design it. Just making a tf2 version where you can instantly swap to 8 minas and run around with basic abilities and no items seems odd and barebones, and the game currently isn't designed for any kind of payload/capture point gameplay where you blob onto one point. In the regular game you have like 3 capture points and a bunch of secondary objectives (farm) where intelligent prodding and timing matters, so if youre playing on deadlock_plr_upward teamfight abilities and sustain become super powerful, so heroes like kelvin would rape.
>>722325167it still reloads so I don't care
>>722325260Good thing Lash has such a great gun, right?
>>722325245It's going to ad or turbo and it'll be even harder to get into than the regular game. It'll just be shorter.
>>722325245Could always look to Heroes of the Storm for inspiration, one of the highlights of that game were how hey handled secondary objectives.
>>722325313I don't play Lash so I don't care.
>>722325330>>722325320Overthrow from dota 2 could be good although some heroes would be way better in ffa
>>722325364Are you one of those people who feels the need to respond to every conversation despite having nothing to add? Bad habit if so.
>>722325410Overthrow would work way better in Deadlock because shooting shit is more fun in a deathmatch than just basic RTS mouse clicks.
>>722283356>moba is too scaryNo, it's just a dogshit genre.
>>722325429I only reply to people who deserve it.
>>722325493Yeah, definitely, it's pretty much all there, you just have to tinker with the middle circle now that everyone has guns, it's a bit too open.
>>722280704anybody giving out invites? kind of interested in trying the game from all the threads i've seen
>>722323283From the voicelines he seems to be an assassin from the Vatican that hunts vampires?
I’d rather Artifact get an update.Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
>>722281824>also leaked a trolldier gnome hero in the worksWhats the source on this? Also why is no one talking about this. A rocket jumping gnome hero sounds fucking awesome.
>>722325651post steam ID and I'll invite you
>>722325245Deadlock is stupidly flexible no?They can make a PvE risk of rain ripoff fuck they have hopoo in the team alreadyAnd isnt survivor sloppa game Megabonk super popular right now? Well Deadlock could do its own 3d survivor like game mode tooYou could that classic source game the Hidden game modeOr a a bunch of other Wc3 shit like escape from gay hell except with actual platforming nowSo many possibilities
>>722325739That wouldn't really explain why he's in the ritual unless he has a similar motive to Warden... but with a more religious bent>God is already real, I wish for you to fuck off from my realm demon.
>>722325894I cannot wait for the shit people make when workshop tools get released. The modding scene for this game is already fantastic with jump maps, deadlock soccer and other shit.
>>722321523>>722325915>>722323283Implying they aren't going to neuter him because of Chinathe recent leaks imply they renamed him and made him a random cult leader
>>722290223>some movement stuff is good but deadlock is way too autistic about itfeel like when you ask people who say stuff like this what they mean, they inevitably mean "movement" as in "the game has sliding and auto-mantle"the game is getting closer all the time to a typical hero shooter where there's no interesting repositioning stuff to do during a fight. the chases are half of the fun in this game and it gets hella gay the closer we get to walking being the only thing you do 90% of the time
>>722325808From the usual leakers.Also no joke the gnome has a bing bing wahoo goomba stomp skill lmao.
I hate leakers
>>722325979>the recent leaks imply they renamed him and made him a random cult leaderNo they didnt.He's still called Venator. Which is literally latin for hunter.
>>722325846thanks bro76561198077246995
>>722326087I hope they just use cain as the hero namevenator doesn't roll off the tongue
>>722325995Bro dont pretend the infini walljump was balancedThey only added that recently and it was obvipus how fucking broken it wasThis just brings ut back to reasonable levels and half a stamina bar on consecutive jumps is perfectly fine
>>722326143i apologize i just miss when the movement was cracked and I can't imagine they will literally ever bring movement back once it's gone, stuff like that is a one-way street with a dev like valve
>>722326141>venator doesn't roll off the tongueIts almost certainly just a placeholder name, in the same way Mina was brat and Billy was Goatboy
>>722325949Speaking of mods, I've been debating whether to see how many DOTA models I can bring over. Already thinking of Bloodseeker -> Drifter and Undying -> Victor.
>>722326234>one-way streetThe multiple walljumps and slide mantling were something they added recently this year though so they clearly want to expand the movement options stillEven Mina got a broken ass free hover
why nerf Lash
>>722312285>removing last hits and adding a buffer window to denying souls so you can only deny if the other guy isn't paying attention>nerfing rejuv a hundred times>nerfing early game kills so the first 10 minutes is basically meaningless>buffing walkers, guardians and the base so you cant snowball anymore>adding reduced respawn timers when you kill the first phase of the patron so you can't win off of snowballing>removing the solo lane and the 4 lanes because it was too complicated>nerfing movement that 0.1% of the playerbase takes advantage ofbut you'll say "oh you can still snowball if you're good" which is true for literally any game no matter how bad the balance is, especially team games. the point is they are objectively making the game easier and easier over time. this dude is right and the devs need to learn that simplifying the game and taking out the things that make it unique is not going to make it more popular. the advertising team is going to make the game popular, you dickheads just need to make a fun game with DEPTH
>>722326234It's still cracked you just can't do it forever.
I think Venator will be his title but he'll still clearly be implied to be a priest just not outright stated to be
>>722325894I just want super mario 64 slide levels
Where's Boho?
>>722326971backburnerleakerman said that priest was the only one in experimental last week, and the gnome got added on the weekend
>>722327084What about swan and skyrunner
>>722326385Jealousy
Where is THE BOSS
>>722327172Reworked into Paige, she has two of his abilities.
>>722326239venator is his title, they are the Vatican's hunter division
>>722327283I saw bush..
>>722327703sir, a second dragon has just hit the twin base guardians
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>722280704tried this yesterday because it's icefrog's new project, but i don't think it is for me, it doesn't have the SOVL of DotA
>try M&K magic carpet for the first time>the Bebop in my team strap me full of bombsIm buying Carpet on every fucking hero from now on
>>722322020>Sinclair isnt an icefraud hero. Hopoo made himOkay. What is Shitpoo cooking?
>>722331930i hate bebop so much
>>722319316
>>722314516Spill it, Anon... please.
>>722293850She deserves it.
every character I play got nerfed in this patch
>All popular daily builds are kinda shitWhat's a good build for Seven and another one for Vyper
>>722305182>give em the killmonger haircut
Can anyone disprove this preconception I have towards MOBAs? To me this genre feels designed in such a way that late game comebacks are rarely possible most matches. Like a match can last as long as 45-50 mins, but the deciding factor of who wins happen at the 15 min mark.
>>722334762In high level play this is somewhat true but in low level play people make bad plays/throw all the time which means for most of the playerbase this isn't true.The problem is that generally the team that plays shit early on will continue to play like shit and they won't capitalize on the other team's misplays either because they aren't aware of them being made or are too shit to exploit them.I've definitely won games singlehandedly at low ELO after a terrible start by just split pushing as Ivy while the retards on the other team brooooowl in mid lane for no reason though
>>722280704I enjoy playing these 2 the most. Why are they drawn together?
>>722334762You do start snowballing towards victory but if you look at the percentage of souls that come from kills in a winning match it will be less than 15 percent even in games where someone was fed a ton of kills. The real reason you rarely see comebacks is if one team is better, the other team isn't going to suddenly get better than them during the mid game. The little bit of snowballing toward victory is also necessary because otherwise early game interaction would mean nothing. A good MOBA should strike a balance and I absolutely believe some fail to do that well. Icefrog has proven to me at least though that he knows how to strike that balance. In general though, Deadlock games don't go 45-50 min. They average more like 35 min with low skill games taking longer because people get scared to push and end because they don't know how so everyone just wanders around the map even if they could just win.
>>722335579They were just released at about the same time in the set of patches that got all the cringe artists trying to cash in.
>>722334762In my low-mid tier rank matches comebacks are definitely possible and happen from time to time. 90% of the time it's because of a really bad call to go to mid boss, getting teamwiped there and feeding the rejuv to the enemy.
>>722326385It's a nothingburger nerf because he has an over 50% winrate and they want to shave a few decimals off his winrate.>>722326395>>denyingThat's a good thing, the mechanic is annoying and people could literally be ping-mogged previously, not to mention how rapid-firing characters like Bebop or Haze were oppressive in that regard.>>nerfing rejuvI think it's stronger in its current state, instead of having a reduced respawn timer they just respawn on the spot, makes it very demoralizing to pile up your entire team on their hyper-fed carry only for the carry to come back with a bunch of shit recharged and you don't get any rewards and now the rest of their team has caught up. It's now more about pushing the advantage instead of being able to initiate a teamfight without being left vulnerable if you lose it.>>nerfing early game killsI think that was more so that people don't immediately consider the game to be lost at that point. That is a real issue with ASSFAGGOTS.
>>722334762The genre is literally fighting over the "who wins" ball. It's an awful genre and I'm hoping Deadlock gets good non-ASSFAGGOTS modes.
>>722326395>>removing last hits and adding a buffer window to denying souls so you can only deny if the other guy isn't paying attentionmade the game more lively at the beginning, instead of a boring last-hit fest like dota
>>722334762Its literally nigger power fantasy
>>722338887The mechanic falls flat on its face once you realize they have to now make every hero able to compete with last hitting souls which means that a lot of creativity will have to be stifled in order for that character to not just get all their souls stolen.
Paige owes me sex.
>>722340254why
>>722327703Damn, I almost missed him.
>>722325167I'm not sure if QSR is necessary for Lash. What does it really do? Add like 60 (now 50 IIRC) damage to his 3 and some Spirit from the Spirit item pile? It's decent in lane but I'm not convinced.Just buy Mystic Shot (also nerfed) or get the freeze item (also nerfed) earlier. How I see it is that QSR is sort of a waste of resources as it doesn't do enough damage due to his gun being bad when you absolutely NEED to build sensible items for damage, and cooldown reduction and mobility as well. Hell, if you really, really want to do something with your gun, get Spirit Rend or something but you probably should get Decay instead every time.
>>722340946Flog healing scales off damage, and QSR is cheap and a huge increase in damage. It gives a huge amount of healing and sustain for Lash in lane and the entire game.
>>722340946you're overestimating the amount of spirit you can casually get in the game. if you want to make flog do 50 more damage just from spirit scaling, you need 46 spirit.the most cost efficient way to get that amount of spirit would be buying surge of power and imbuing it to flog (28 from the imbue, 19 for your total souls invested in spirit items).or you could just buy QSR for half the price, and get an additional 11 spirit for spending 1,600 in spirit items.
>>722334762I had a massive comeback once.
>>722334762come backs in this game are almost impossible. Once a team has advantage they can keep said advantage for as long as they don't fuck up, which generates even MORE advantage and less chances of fuck ups.>>722341647>come back>other team had a Vyperit was basically a guaranteed victory.
>>722340946It's great in early game because it increases the healing from Flog after it has been nerfed several times but afterwards it becomes insignificant because its damage contribution is too small, and it's not worth upgrading to Mercurial on Lash. Lash is just a Ground Pound and Death Slam machine, and if the game goes on long enough just Death Slam.
>>722341586>>722341560I'm granting that it's important in lane but after that it gets less and less relevant and it's edged out by Mystic Shot. I want damage and Mystic Shot (MS) gives me that. My claim is that QSR is not necessary because if I'm real good with MS, I do more damage, and more safely and therefore don't need the damage or the 30 or 45 extra heal from Flog (was the heal .5 or .75 ?) I usually might have to possibly spend 100 health for to get in range and to disengage.If I'm boosting just one skill, it's going to be with Reverb.
>>722280704Riot should make a deadlock-esque game, so we can a deadlock with better character designs.
>>722341647>seven>not even using unstoppable>not a single one of the enemies decided to buy knockdownyou were playing against retards
>>722342782>I usually might have to possiblyDisregard the "usually" here
>>722342078>Once a team has advantage they can keep said advantage for as long as they don't fuck up, which generates even MORE advantage and less chances of fuck ups.Yeah, my issue with mobas is that comebacks are less about the losing team playing well and more about the winning team making mistakes.
Can you win games by healslutting? I.E. picking a hero with an active heal like Dynamo or McGinnis and building full support healing items like Rescue Beam, Healing Nova, Guardian Ward, etc.?
>>722281824>trolldier gnome heroVALVE REALLY DOES LISTEN TO ME
>>722341647It's not really a comeback if you also had exposed their Patron as well.
>>722344105You'll probably at least have to farm and kill mobs even if you completely avoid touching the enemy team.
>>722344105Full heal McGinnis is actually crazy, but you will inevitably build into spirit, and not pushing with your boosted turrets would be a crime at that point
>>722340946It's not necessary per say but you're going to want something else like Mystic Regen at the bare minimum as a replacement. Usually I'd just get that and veil walker but with the huge veil walker nerfs, I'll be running QSR more often.>but what about the flog powerSurge of power >but what about le ground slamIts called jumping off of buildings an extra 4 meters up.
>>722344105You can but you're giving away a lot of your agency to the rest of your team. If you go full healslut and your team can't capitalize on the opportunities you provide, you'll just lose.
>>722344105Yes, but not through weak, passive healsluts but bara tf2 gay porn kelvin flying assfirst into the teamfight and dropping a 2000+ heal ice bubble or incredibles black guy zooming at a height normal heroes need trained sherpas to exist safely at and rescue beam pulling your carry into safety from 1 hp
>>722300332Well done anon
>>722346074I love Phantom Strike Kelvining into an ally getting clobbered by enemies so I can dome them and blow my ice bomb load over them both. It makes me feel like an anime protagonist.
>>722301875this was always the lamest ritual post
>>722339904>The mechanic falls flat on its face once you realize they have to now make every hero able to compete with last hitting soulsor you know you could just keep the interesting mechanics in the game and have the players figure out ways to deal with the pros and cons of how their character interacts with that mechanic. honestly i think what happened with this game is it was made by the small clique of real ass niggas who are still at valve and then once the vultures (the cs team), saw that it had potential they jumped on it and are now trying to make it as commercialized and boring as possible. whenever people are defending such shit design is always a dead giveaway that the devs are trying to make the game easy while astroturfing the playerbase into thinking it's a good thing
>>722343063>modern riot>better character designskek
>>722348138also love how you switched your argument from "there is no basis for the game getting easier" to "okay it is getting easier but it's a good thing"
>>722281824I always thought a ctf mode would work incredibly well for deadlock. Maybe control points that open up paths to the enemy base where you need to grab the flag, or like creeps still exist and they need to open doors so you still push and pull lanes for resources
>>722348138>once the vultures (the cs team), saw that it had potential they jumped on itthis is truehowever, valve are not inherently good at making games. early deadlock (pre august 2024) was fucking terrible and follows the trend of valve games being total dogshit at launch/early developmentthe last multiplayer game they released was artifact and artifact didnt get course corrected hard enough so its pretty obvious that this massive pre-release testing phase is to fix the mistakes they've made previouslyif it means that the game gets dumbed down as described in >>722286661 and >>722311169 then so bet iti will still play
>>722348516i think capture the flag would work out pretty well if the urn is anything to go by. though i am remembering all the times my teammates fail to show up for urns or doing anything not involving our jungle.
>>722300332Clearly amateur but I like the compositionSoul
pls invite ;A;76561198048740055
>>722348767ive been playing since end of may 2024 and i don't think there was ever a point in which this game was total dogshit. this game is actually amazing and always has been. I just think the devs saw the potential for how sweaty the game could be, got really scared and are now overcorrecting hard to try and prevent the game from getting a reputation of being too hard. They need to find a way to do that without taking out the shit that makes the game unique or it's gonna fail. No other moba had a last hit mechanic as cool as deadlock and now deadlock probably has the most boring CSing of any moba, i hope you can see the issue here
I hope they add an actual melee character.>but soul last-hitting!Let him have a soul-eating sword that can suck in souls or something idk
>>722350202drifter's attacks are capped to 25m and it already feels prohibitively short in a lot of situations demoknight was a disaster for game design, melee only characters don't belong in shooters
>>722350547>melee only characters don't belong in shooterswhy is it that we can have melee games, shooter games but not melee in shooter games? real game designers never give up trying to make some dumb ass shit work
>>722351642it literally just comes down to attack ranges. with a longer attack range you can walk backwards away from someone with a shorter range and just dps them to death
>>722351726you're not even trying!
>>722350202imagine if the whole game was melee-centered like pirates vikings knights 2 (or chivalry for you zoom zooms)
>>722301875>mfw anon has become more unoriginal than valve at this point
>>722321496>>722321523>>722322918>>722323195wait a minutes, is he a part of the friends of humanity??
>>722323487sfm2 vids of mina getting locked in full nelson but futa geist when?
>>722326239>people still call paige bookwormshes just that cute
>>722332540bashed. fuck that scottish upcutting clanker
>>722353367>futa geistComplete misunderstanding of the character. Haughty rich women shouldn't have penises, it's bad writing.
>>722354039there's magic and shit i can totally see geist getting a futa potion to rape rich snob pussy specially after living for so long, must get boring to always do normal sex
>>722354039this, futas are supposed to be low class hoodlums who brutalize stuck up rich girls, like viper except nagas aren't supposed to be futas either
>>722323456>You're pretty! :3>Thanks...>I match your arm. :)>Yes, Viscous!>We are friends. :) :)>No, Viscous...
>>722324202This. Malcom X would've wanted it too.
i love the game but lose every time i play, what the fuck do i have to do to win, there's always someone like 14-2-16 on the other team
Thoughts on Victor buffs?
>>722355476just keep playing and you'll win eventually.
>>722355982https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aulMPhE12gtime to whip out the old infuser i guess
>>722357519Victor should've been a girl desu. Need more female tanks in this game
>>722355476play some support characters to get the feel of the game then (paige, ivy, etc). then when you get an understanding of skills an items go for tanky characters like abrams or bepop and go crazy with the heal regen or damage they cause
>>722357768we already have mcginnis and geist though
>>722357995VN geist was very sexy
>>722353239Don't think so, Friends of Humanity wouldn't have anyone be part of the ritual.
>>722357995At first I was disappointed they got rid of Miku's welder's helmet but the Rosie the Riveter look works much better for her.
>game LITERALLY has a they/them character(Pocket)>/v/ ignores it because it's by Valveamazing
>Deadlock just got an updateDon't care.Not playing until the normal game mode.
>>722300332I am 99% sure this is genned slop.AI is soulless
>>722359427It gets brought up every thread, hardly ignoring.
>>722359427No you see it's because Pocket is hiding (their) identity. Or because (they're) multiple entities. I can't make my mind up which.And ignore that the bio still refers to known individual Arin Fairfax as a they.
>>722360385The thing that confuses me the most is that Arin by model, voice lines and other mannerisms is masculine but they have that line in the bio and one line with Mina.
>Love Paradox's design, lore and voice lines (Scottish women make me HNNNNGGGGG)>Hate facing against her because every paradox player goes for the one shot carbine buildMan...
vyper owes me sex
>>722361548... You really want a woman that Billy touched?
>>722355982he didn't really change much, more incentivized to be playing the hybrid build now
victor just got nerffed again.
>>722361786Billy probably has 80 fucking STDs and at least half of them are magical.
>>722362158> Victor: Aura of Suffering self damage can no longer be reduced by spirit resistance (same as Jumpstart)nuked from fucking orbit holy shit
>>722362158>>722362212Well there goes my build.
>>722362212The real question is; Can it be enhanced? If I build spirit shredding items, will victor kill himself quicker?
>>722362212that is a good thing though. he was literally too strong although I think they went too far.maybe they should have made it a timed ability that last a certain amount of time but you cant turn it off no matter what until the timer runs out.
>>722281824>jumping causes a 10% accuracy debuff for .15 secondsi like this on a balance level but as a compulsive adhd jumper in every game with a jump button i am sad
>>722362459all they have to do is reduce his scaling not make him impossible to play
>>722362508it's actually a buff to adhd jumping because the way it worked before meant you couldn't even fire at all for those .15 seconds
>>722362594sick
>>722362168I wonder how he would've managed to get so many women to ignore the goat head. Vyper is down but we know she is a freak.
>>722362669>womenlol
>>722362669He seeked out the undertale fanbase.
>>722362731Billy can't be gay, the only gays in Deadlock according to a lot of fan art is Drifter and Doorman.Holy fucking shit there is a lot of Doorman x Drifter fan art, what the fuck.>>722362792According to Paige he would also be a hit with the Shakespeare community.
>>722362858>Billy can't be gayWho said anything about him fucking men, either?
ok let me test on the playground how much it fucks victor over
>>722363025Check if lowered spirit resist makes it hurt yourself more
>>722362858I hate fujos so much.
>>722362669Since he's a punk, there are probably a lot of freakazoids akin to real life hippies but with fucked up magic deformations instead of natural or inflicted ones.They also probably don't shower.>>722362858>Shakespeare community.More like a novelty piece than an actual being though, but that's okay because billy is subhuman even without his goat head.
I like Billy's reload animation but since only his head is a goat, he must have severe stomach pains trying to process the magazines he ate.
>>722301875ESL-tard
>>722363083doesn't seem too bad of course that doesn't take into consideration you are being target.
>>722280704So why Doorman's gun damage wasn't nerfed when almost all other heroes got nerfed in that aspect, especially skill support oriented ones like Paige or Ivy
I'm not buying your game. Now post more of this hot dork.
>>722363651it doesn't cost money
>>722363583yea bro looks fine
>>722363583Now test what happens if someone hits you with Soul Shredder.
>>722363583He's gonna get fucking melted with it active now if he's taking any substantial damage from enemies.
>>722327283pretty good
>>722321496I hope he isn't in the ritual for the same reason as Warden. That would be kinda lazy.
>>722363651Gelbooru doesn't have much
>>722280704So when does the cool priest gets in?
>.5 stamina on repeated walljumps>"NOOOOOOOOO THEY'RE KILLING MOVEMENNNNNNNT"Literally the only person this really effects are Lash players who just spammed walljump as they waited to slam you. It was super fucking annoying and I'm glad it's addressed.
>>722364404Walljumping is universal and corner jumping is unironically high skill movement tech simply due to the fucked up angles and collision.Instead of nerfing the only thing that separates a good player from a bad player, they should've encouraged the general playerbase to gitgud by allowing the creation of custom maps by the community.
>>722364404I think it's fine, it just takes a full 3 stam to make the really tall vertical climbs now which is still doable. I do think that it wouldn't hurt if there was some more friction to slow sliding down a wall to help space out walljumps if they are going to cost though.
>>722312494I 100% believe Fat Tourist Viscous was supposed to release in the same 6 hero update that updated Vindicta and Wraith and Ivy and the others, but they saw the lashback and decided to scrap it.
>>722363474Newfag.
>>722344105You can easily do it. Find an oshi that cares about you the same way you care about them. Be their pocket slut. Win your games.
>>722363720Time is money friend.
>>722304446>>722303719It's just the difference between good and bad writing. I play Valorant with my friends who are addicted to it just to hang with them and the dialogue in that game is fucking horrendous. I spend some free time looking up videos of Deadlock convos between heroes they're so fun. I actively mute Valorant voicelines.
>>722364981Speaking of Valorant, kinda hate how I have to specify "Valve Deadlock fan art" when I am looking for stuff because Valorant has a character called Deadlock.
>>722364981Valve has always had a knack for good characters, though it really only gets noticed with their singleplayer games and stuff like TF2 and Deadlock where the characters get a decent amount of focus.
>>722316282Anyone selling a Deadlock invite is a scammer. You can get one for free nearly anywhere. Just tell them to fuck off.
>>722364928>73k healingFucking hell, the most I've ever gotten is about 50k.
>>722364981>>722365060>Deadlock has good writing>And good hero designsWtf am I reading?
>>722365665the unfortunate truth. valve writers are literal ages ahead of capeshit/ow/valorant faggotry
>>722365563Your really long games (55 minutes) might look like this!
>>722365665For character writing:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WkXB8OBnIIThis is always my goto answer because Vyper is a fun character, but they also do well with other characters like Seven or Drifter which could've leaned into the whole "Oooh I am a psycho killer" angle more but there is more to them (Seven sees killing as a step in his goals and does have respect for people who use their powers for their own goals, while Drifter has some class about him despite being a Murder Hobo).As for character designs, most of the non-neon prime holdovers and more finished character designs are pretty good and memorable. The last 6 heroes alone shows that Valve has a certain vision for the game.
>>722322918>>722323195God I hope the priest is actually cool/fatherly and not just a heel.
>>722311950>>Mina can melt objectives a little faster than a gun carry largely because of a poorly thought out interaction with a particular itemmina niggers always forget that she could do this 15 minnutes into the game while gun carries needed to farm to over 35K at least to output slightly less then her
>>722365665Here's some amazing Valve dialogue you might enjoy.https://youtu.be/lx2emTvmM9g?si=7f-v9clhI590ZbF2
>>722366127>Just rush a 6400 soul item bro>She's broken broThese are the niggers that don't stand behind cover and then wonder why, after tanking 20 shots, their HP suddenly goes down when love bites proc.
>>722355476Like any MOBA, learn your hero's power spikes. Some heroes will require a shit ton of farm to be useful, so run around the map farming around non stop and only joining for kills if its close enough.
>>722281824Deadlock will be Valve's Fortnite/Roblox
>>722366335what a bad faith argument, but it doesnt matter your character is dead faggot and good riddance you should quit playing too.
>>722366209>oh infernus, my noble demon kang, I don't care how many people you've murdered, please let me suck your cock.Deadlock is not beating the DEI allegations, lmao
>>722366419Sorry, I'll keep shitting down your throat with my nerfed rake and you'll keep crying like the little failed planned parenthood nigger that you are.
>>722366469Infernus' whole thing is about reforming his life after the law finally cracked down on him, Holiday would respect that over someone like Seven who sees people as nothing but pawns.
>>722366569cool dude have fun in seeker lmfao
>>722366607Cope more initiate subhuman
>Make a literal el goblina>One of the most popular characters
>>722281824>that drawingWait a minute...
>>722366579>Holliday the sherriff wants to fuck the mass murdering demon because he's a changed demonFucking lmao, valve drones wil defend anything
>>722366792funny because only low elo niggers (like you lmfao) are complaining mina got touched. but keep enjoying the loss streak
>>722349084Thanks doc
>>722366354>Deadlock will be Valve's Fortnite/RobloxSo far deadlock has been the new Underlords
I find it funny the only thing she won't bet on is how many bodies Drifter will pile up because she knows that if given an incentive, Drifter will keep killing instead of finishing the ritual.
>complainingIt would seem that reading comprehension is absolutely horrid in the third world. You can teach a parrot to speak, but you can't make it read a book.
>so ass mad he resorts to not replying AND third world copeyup, another online argument won
>>722288693This. WoW did it too, with PvP, and it always felt like a bandaid for the fact that the combat system just doesn't support it. At least with vanilla PvP, it reveled in the general chaos and absurdity, even if balance was crap.
>>722367126Love that convo because of how meta it is. Drifter is the most THAT hero in the game -- you know, the hero that retards pick and then prioritize killing over objectives.
>>722366817Frankly I hope we get more goofy goblin characters. Hoping for an oldschool alien like the flatwoods or hopskin goblin, or a skin based on an ayy at least.
>xer is still goingDilation is calling.>>722367657That's just the patreon.
>>722366817she's not so la goblina anymore
>>722368239Surprised no one’s offered Ivy a shirt in dialogue yet, would be a funny conversation
>>722368391They constantly remind Vindicta of being barefoot, but they don't give a shit about a gargoyle only wearing suspenders.
>>722368391"Hey Ivy, you uhh.... want a shirt?""No."
>>722366209>Coal burner Holliday>WW2 "we can do it" feminist dyke McGuiness>Bisexual lizard>Tranny pronoun Pocket>Metrosexual Lash with little sparkles floating around his face>4 groids already in the gameDEILOCK IS REAL
Bebop inviting everyone to Ms Shelly's house>Invites DrifterOh no.
>everyone talking about the addition of the priest>no knowledge of the man holiday is hunting being added to the rosterim better off waiting for 1.0 at this point
>>722369723Do we have any information on what the Troubadour is like? Drifter says he is better than him at least.
>>722369802apart from that no. drifter just states that while he is better than him, drifter is more sadistic. Troubadour was quicker than drifter because drifter wouldve killed grey talon's family before grey talons eyes like the sadist he is
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>>722314092I enjoy my parry baiting as Abrams, even if I die a lot doing it.
>>722280913Based, fuck Naive Americans.
>>722287263It's overbloated with too many mechanics with some new dumb mechanic too fix dumb balancing choices instead of outright nerfing shit
>>722287906Ive been initiate 1 for 160 games, and I have like a 60% win ratio. A buddy of mine that is almost always doing worse than me is up in seeker. I dont really understand it. Im not good by any means, and its damned obvious when someone way better than me is on the other team. I really wish the matchmaking would even out. I enjoy games where everyone is magically about the same level of good but those are so rare.
>>722370070There is a part of me that wants a Grey Talon VN just to see him during his peak and his rivalry against Drifter.
>>722322918Anderson should have been the protagonist of Hellsing.>White>Honorable>Christian>White>Handsome>Charming>WhiteInstead we got some jeet motherfucker from the darkest heart of romania.
>>722370889But still ultimately became a monster once he took the nail.
>>722362508meh it's just a minor inconvience. It's like uphill misses in Dota except it's not fucking 50% accuracy lost
Is this even a real game? I have only seen tumblr-tier fanart of its characters
>>722369012>McGuiness She is less "we can do it" and more "I'm paid so we can do it".>BisexualNot an ivy player, but isn't she practically a child? She's in like 4th grade.
Any Yamato enjoyers in chat?
>>722369802uhhhhhh>Is a serial killer like Drifter>Possibly a vampire?>The Baxter Society fears it, and doesn't have the manpower to fight it anyway>Killed Grey Talons son, daughter-in-law, and grand kids>Long Shadow (Holiday's father / Sheriff of Macomb) was killed by it>The town of Macomb was devastated by it
>>722371997All that and you missed the one possible physical description:>A murder of crows suspected to be the infamous serial killer known as the troubadour was spotted flying over Champaign-Urbana today. Could he be flying to New York?
>>722372321So male vindicta?
>>722301875I'm getting serious Bazz vibes.
>>722365865you are but a baby
>>722312816Is there seriously not a TF2 mod for that, yet?
deadlock is a great game but i don't recommend anyone playing it right now because the balancing is absolutely retarded and the match making doesn't work at all. so you end up with absolute beginners vs pros all the time.
>>722372859you don't understand what made Bazz bad
>So, what does it feel like>Excuse me?>Being next to greatness...what does it feel like?>Nauseating?>No need to be nervous, I am approachableI don't vibe with all the visual choices in the game but they absolutely nailed the characterization
Thanks for letting me know
wtf nobody else likes Yamato? She's so fucking fun.
>>722374807For some reason her old model bothers me enough not to play her.
>>722373606Why post lash old model
>>722370950yup. a little too white unfortunately
>>722374924I thought it was funnier when he had no eyes
>>722374807I love her, but she's stomp or be stomped, and that stops me from playing her often.
>>722280704
boxes are fucking stupid
>>722373606>the enemy is about to realize that their arms are too short to fight against a god
>>722375634Slot machines being skill based is dumber.
>>722371701Yamato feels like she is in a good spot
>>722375634I don't think they should be near lanes so you're not encouraged to push out then go grab boxes. Instead they should be incentivizing roaming to other lanes for ganks and whatnot.
>>722287407I want to play TF2, but as IVY.I guess playing as Lash or uhhhh someone else might be fine too.
I ship Mina and Pocket
>>722375796Mibibi...any other zzz mods?
>>722375945>I want to play a shittier 3rd person tf2 with a hideous wetback gargoyleI'm sure it will be a huge success
>>722376309Did a quick look and yes they do.
>>722365665>>And good hero designs>Wtf am I reading?What roster do you think is better?
>>722374807it's literally just her goofy outdated model. Her pick rate and popularity will go up when she gets redesigned especially if it's actually good
>>722376517Even here Bibian bibicreeps Mibibi...
how do i get out of initiate?
>>722376905If you've been playing for a while then good luck. with the way the games rank system works it's harder to move ranks the longer you have been playing
>>722376901kill yourself my dude
>>722376901hmmm, and why....?
>>722376905depending on how hard you shat the bed during your first few hours of matchmaking, you may never make it outjust make an alt if you care about rank so much or wait and see if the rank reset also comes with an mmr reset
>>722376905Unironically?Hard carry 6 games in a row and win with a 50k+ gold lead
I hope I never get out of initiate. It's actually fun down here.
>>722377442>everyone DCs because one person lost lane leaving you alone at base to fight the entire enemy teamyeah.....fun....
>>722377386damn. so shooting the enemy's souls bubble are beyond mandatory huh?
>>722377726you should try to do that but it's weighed so that if you're both shooting it at the same time the souls go to the original team anywaydenies are only likely to happen when the enemies are distracted or don't know about the mechanic
>>722377726If your team is doing good and not dying, getting to a 40k lead is pretty easy to do, but 50k seems impossible without the enemy team rage quitting.
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