>Can't find a GF as a teenager without accusations of being a furryImagine being literally the only human in town
>>722300925But then picture having the town humanfucker all to yourself.
>>722300925>Can't find a GF as a teenager without accusations of being a furryKris gets a pass because she's a teenage girl.
>>722300925I love Krisper :D
Does anyone have the full comic where this image is from? cannot find it for the life of me
>>722300925>Only human in town>Still can't scoreThat wouldn't be youRight?Anon
>>722300925any port in a storm
I want the option for Kris to pour milk on the soul next chapter.
>>722304392would you look at the steam coming off that deer average deer body temperature is 101f apparently so they run hotter than humans but not massively so what an educational evening
Who's going to accuse him? There are no other humans around to make fun of him.
I JUST BEAT THE FUCKING ROARING KNIGHTI FEEL SO POWERFUL
Which way, Deltarune man?
>>722300925>Can't find a GF without accusations of being a furryThats just what real life hell is going to be for jannies and majority of fags here>what about fags who are into furry shit?reincarnated back into this world again, but as a shittier minority each time
>>722300925He is not a FURFAG he FUCKS MONSTERS with his BIG HUMAN COCK
>>722300925haha yeah it would suck so bad to have a bunch of monster ladies messing with you all the time
>>722305867ok furfag
>>722300925Literal retarded emo kid can't fucking understand I'm helping his social life and be's a douchbag to his mommy. He deserves the suffering I inflict upon him and that faggot bitch Noelle for trying to snatch Susie
>>722305821nips aren't coward when depicting femkris, which is a plus for thema lot of them only think in manga/ anime tropes for the characters though
>>722305867Why do they all do the point thing? Even the knight does it.
>>722300925He wears devil horns in an attempt to look like his goat (step)brother. He is a furry.
>>722306065if we believe that dess = the knight then kris is pretty clearly just emulating dessnoelle is just copying what kris is doing because he taught her how to ACT
>>722306353>kris literally wants to be a goat(monster)Thinking about it that way I guess Kris is technically the only furry in Deltarune
Why do people look at this silhouette and think it's Noelle? Are they blind?
>>722306414So Susie does it too because she's also copying Kris? I guess Kris/Ralsei teach her to act too, can't remember if she does it before that in ch 1.
>>722306494The weird brim/snout looking thing at the top of the head could be like her antlers under a hood
>>722306543isn't susie's act a different gesture? iirc it's more of an open hand thing than a point
>>722306065>>722306414
>>722305867noelle saw him do that too
>>722306632>>722306750Sorry guys I think that it'd be neat if it was a thing they inherited from dess but....
>>722306494be mindful to not spam it every threadeither we're proven right or we're not, although we do have a decent amount of evidence for it atm
>>722306816That's a different sprite, that's the "Shut the fuck up and let me axe you" sprite. Her ACT sprite is her flicking her hair
>>722306905Fine, point is Susie does the point too. It's not like the knight is ACTing when she does it.
>>722300925>giving a fuck what hairless apes thinkkek, anywhore I'm fucking the shit out of Catty
>>722307005Enjoy your fat pussy
"Love will find its way to the girl" is a prediction about how us, via The Vessel, will fill Kris with our love, breeding the mental illness out of her and giving her a newfound appreciation for her womanhood.
>>722305821I choose:
>>722307208It's actually talking about how Kris stole the soul from the cage. Yes, even her trying to subvert the prophecy is part of the prophecy.
>>722307196I absolutely will
>>722307395I didn't actually think about that but you're right. That's exactly what it's describing. holy fuck. Kris absolutely stole the red soul, and probably lost the blue soul to Dess.I'm starting to believe in femKris theory, now.
>>722307375The fuck is that?
>>722300925it's fine, he's got one of these
>>722307738but that's not kris
>>722307642for me it was the princess ribbonthere's no reason for toby to specifically call out that kris has dainty girl hands and no one else does, unless it's supposed to mean something
>>722307738Given Kris's close relationship with the Mayor I wonder if he actually HAS to get some kind of state approval for that.
>>722307685Just a silly little guy.
>>722307828It's finethe Mayor wants him to fuck her daughter's brains out before she goes full-dyke.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFYTL3mTsdoI actually fucking soifaced so hard when gerson showed up
>>722307828He doesn't, Carol passed a law specifically allowing him to whip it out freely.
>>722307945I get the feeling like you're not telling me everything
>>722308025Oh yeah that was fucking cool, but I kinda wish it was still sort of the Guardian music.
>what the fuck is that
>>722308025Chapter 4 was so good.
>>722307461Honestly as far as picks go, I'm not sure why the fat cats would be contentious.
>>722307375NO NO NO NO NO NONO FUCKING WAYNO.
>>722308025>finally hearing this again for the first time since Chapter 2 after all the shit that happens with the Titan and Susie and Ralseihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb71Mz8Cbtw
>>722309351That's the good shit
>>722303523
>>722306494It's obviously Susie>but swordShe found one that's big enough for her, duh
I still want to meet his parents. Like why the fuck did they abandon him? Why did they leave him in monster town under the care of a monster? Also do you think Kris knows we're a human or would he assume the one controlling his soul is a monster?
>>722303523>>722309498
>>722309606There are 10 billion pieces of foreshadowing that it isn't Susie. Literally basic bitch red herring. If you seriously believe that then you are brain damaged.
>>722309658
>>722308025I had most of the big reveals spoiled for me but it was still hype as fuck.I will not make the same mistake in Chapter 5, I will turn into Uncle Ted until I finish it.
>>722309686Fine, you won. It's Ceroba then.
>>722309758Same. I'm bunkering down and not going online
>>722309758I thought bird joke-man had panties stretched across his face in your image.
>>722300925Deltarune General belongs in /vg/
I have faux-quirky gamedev fatigue.
>>722306065The knight is dark/star, and "star" is literally the celebrity/big shot element. The knight is a fallen star, a forgotten big shot.Kris apes the knight's aura because the knight used to be on TV and kris idolizes it.
Bros, does anybody support Rudy Knight besides that one youtuber? Dess Knight is overwhelming.
What do people think about the forced weird route series? I thought it had potential at the start but now I'm not surehttps://youtu.be/P38SlujorwY?si=U45bRtzmL0mZcBpk
>>722310121I mean maybe I'm spoiled for it, but strictly looking at just the game, it could go a variety of ways for who is actually the knight.Like why the fuck does the knight have FRIEND's laugh?
>>722310140That's the fate of most of these. I was discussing this before with newer horror media in general; they get way too far in over their heads and lose the plot, the core, of what made it good. The same thing, to an extent, happened with Delta Traveler. Chapter 1? Fine! I'd recommend it even. Pretty fun. But then as it went on the bed was shat, and you can't unshit a bed. It's gonna be the shit bed forever. The longer something goes on for, the more cracks the author shows.The only real thing I felt that came close was probably that Roaring Town thing, and even then at the end that also shit the bed a bit, even if the presentation was good.
>>722310121I'm still on team Carol is the Knight. Nobody discusses that because it's too obvious and has too many red herrings. I think it's so obvious that it loops into being unexpected.
>>722310121The knight isn't even a holiday. Thematically the closest characters to the knight are friend/mike with all the hand/puppet shit attributed to them and surprise, one of the fortunes in chapter 3 straight implies that the knight is friend.
>>722310121No, pretty sure he's meant to be a red herring along with Carol, (Carol showing up after the phone call, Rudy having some kind of issue with his body). As long as you assume Toby's still primarily making the game for a general audience and not hyper obsessed autists (us), a noramal person will see the knight's anters and assume it must be one of the two characters we've actually seen.
>>722300925>Imagine being literally the only human in townI live in a blue state, I don't need to.
>>722310175The knight doesn't have friend's laugh, friend has the knight's laugh. Literally the friend in the mike minigame uses the knights laugh file.
>>722310406Bet you're a riot with facebook dads
>>722303523I love that this panel is still being posted, I actually colorized the entire comic, but this is the iconic one, definitely hence the expansion/redrawing
>>722310306Yeah I wish Delta Traveler was just Kris and Susie traveling through Undertale and that's it. I don't want to go to other worlds or other AUs. I was disappointed by how it turned out
The knight looks absolutely nothing like the holidays and I'm tired of pretending it does.
>>722310358Anon, those are not real characters. Them becoming joining the story is like expecting Gaster to do so.
>>722310590the knight is dess' body mutated by the dark
>>722310389But Rudy being sick is the exact reason people wouldn't think he's the knight. The knight is very athletic, while Rudy is dying. Carol (being shown to be antagonistic) is the obvious red herring. Rudy meanwhile is your friend.
>>722310727Maybe people would think that entering knight mode is taking a toll on his body or something. Not an uncommon trope.
>>722310468No, I'm a little too close to being a genuine "fascist" (because most Americans don't know the difference between a Monarch and a despot) for their taste.
>>722309153Settle down, it's not a big deal that I doodled him.
>>722310623Gaster is already kind of part of the story.
>>722310140I don't like it.
>>722310140>Stipulates that the game is using the microphone to listen to the player>Pulls the name out of the computer's user account>Oooh but what a twist it knew their REAAAL nameLameYou wrote yourself a free gimme and squandered it.
>>722307824It just means Kris plays piano unfortunatelyI'm playing the long game where I just wait for Toby to make a Freudian slip on the Deltarune 10th Anniversary stream
>>722310590I'm extremely confident the reason th Knight's so fucked up is because she's the same type of entity that Chara and Asriel formed but with a Lightner and Darkner
>>722300925>accusations of being a furryFrom who, if you're the only human in town
So, what happened to Noelle's plans to buy herself an apple shampoo?Did she forgot about it, underestimating its powers?Did it not work on her?Was newest_girl really non-canon?
>>722312037Toby's games have weird canonicity where all the supplemental material only applies if it seems cool to you, personally.Maybe the stuff in the game too.
>>722312037Kris bought all the apple shampoo in town, fucker is monopolizing his scent
What's his endgame?Can the mystery even possibly be worth the wait?
>>722312037she probably tried it for a while and gave up when it did nothing for hereither it was completely masked out by the general christmas odour from the holiday mansion or susie really only did pay attention to kris in the class
>>722301132But he had to share her with Asriel.
>>722300925>another human comes to town>calls Kris a he>"fucking finally, these monster people don't know how gender works."
>>722310306>>722311464>>722311729I just hate that there's a few elements I really like, but overall I hate the entire thing. I like that Noelle puts up an ice wall to stop Kris from killing the enemy normally. I like that Noelle grabs Kris's arm and drags him into battle after noticing he missed an enemy. I like how Noelle refuses to use normal attacks. I like that the magic button starts glowing after getting enough TP to freeze an enemy. That's why I hate how bad it is, because there's a lot I like
Deltarune HBOSTARRING>Rami Malek as Kris>Jenna Ortega as Susie>Jared Gilman as Ralsei>Sophia Lillis as Noelle>Tom Holland as Berdly>JK Simmons as WD Gaster
>>722300925Would the concept of a furry even exist in a world that's 50% anthros? It seems like at that point they'd just be another race of people. So wanting to fuck anthro women would be no different from wanting to fuck black chicks or mexicans.
Susellefags shaking in their boots after Toby went out of his way to confirm human-furry marriage in the anniversary stream
>>722312502I mean strictly speaking, furries in our world are just extreme xenophiles already.The only real difference would be accessibility, and potentially the lack of the gay retard pedophile/furry war with SomethingAwful that's flavored most of the perspective on furries in the 2000s that people for some reason pretend to still be the case.
>>722312409That's the passion that comes from realizing squandered potential. If you like something but feel a burning hatred for one part of it because it's dumb or whatever that's just you realizing their fuck up where they missed it.
>>722310358The night is Dess after getting beFRIENDED
>>722312687>pretend to still be the caseWe saw what your kind is capable of last month. It's not pretending.
>>722312943That's right lil bitch, be afraid of big aryan furGAWDs
>>722310590The Knight is Dess's corpse after getting the venom symbiote treatment by some kind of dark entity.
>>722313004Don't pretend your cowardly murder of a non-combatant was anything more than just that.
>>722311729I didn't watch the series. Are you complaining that they should have done that, or that they did do that?
>>722312037So do you anons use that generic apple scented shampoo? I felt personally called out when I checked Kris's bathroom and found that stuff in there.
>>722313049There's a furGAWD on every street corner just waiting to represent in case a fashcuck gets uppity again. Stay afraid anon
>>722312943I mean like SomethingAwful isn't currently dead, and what you're referring to has way more to do with a political faction basically completely running out of any sort of real ideas going forward after they picking whether to run with the strategy of exploiting people's fears of being called racist or sexist.
>>722312501>JK Simmons as WD GasterNo, they'd save him for the UTY movie so he can play Chujin. Gaster would be played by Willem Dafoe.
>>722313053It's the specific video that was linked.Also if you niggers don't cut it out I'm saying the Y word.
>>722312687Yeah, but if anthros were just people, then stigmatizing people who find them attractive would be considered racist. So if furry as a term did exist, it would have a very different connotation. More like jungle fever is used IRL. As a side note, /v/ would either absolutely hate anthros, or consider them honorary aryans like the asians.
>>722310121I do, and i skip all youtube videosIt makes a compelling story and is plausible explaining why Rudy is so fucked up and wont heal, also why the knight is dead like
>>722313097>ralsei plush>2hu plushthese two fandoms really are alike, aren't they?
>>722305884If 2 monster girls put their mouths on my penis at the same time I would be so embarrassed.
>>722306414Is the text on the left actually from the game? I thought I looked everywhere I never saw those lines
>>722313237I don't want to watch it because it sounds like its shit.
>>722301739How can Kris be a girl if he has a penis?
>>722313125I'm usually buying green-scented shampoo, but right now I'm using a strawberry-scented shampoo from the place that sells cleaning products on tap.
>>722313427left is if you fuck around with the conch in ch3 with kris iirc, i think you can only do it later on the board after the controller swap
>>722313427Its from the conch shell on the beach in the second Zelda minigame.
>>722313321>then stigmatizing people who find them attractive would be considered racist.I mean it's more that there's basically be no wiggle room for people (mentally ill somethingawful pedophiles) to pretend that furries want to fuck an actual fox, and not you know, Krystal from starfox.Something that falls even further apart when you realize that feralfags are their own discrete niche and they actually aren't really all that popular.
>>722313097
>>722313464Oh shit, just noticed one of them is apple-scented too.
>>722313393When you copy from everyone of course 2hu has to be on the mixIt is just too notorious for how huge it was
>>722313432Fair Enough.
>>722313464>it transcends bordersThis is just a constant of male existence, isn't it?Also, what is the Russian DR fanbase like? I know its like the second largest part of the fandom behind the American one.
>>722306414This screams that the knight at least has a part of Kris in it
>>722305821Japan is getting more woke too, you have no idea
>>722313656>Thanks obamaIs not a joke
>>722313450Proof Kris has a penis?
>>722313601>Also, what is the Russian DR fanbase like?I wish I knew, I have no idea where they all hang out.
>>722313656almost the entirety of the modern 'woke' shit happening in japan is being spearheaded by people that aren't japanese, or have heavy ties with the westwhen it comes to gay shit japan has their own culture about it that is very different from the west' takes on it and should not be lumped into the 'woke' frenzy, unless what's being pushed is clearly not native to japan's culture
>>722313601apparently rouxls' constantly bringing up worms is more relevant in russian because it's the same word for heart or something
>>722306494It's obviously Ralsei you faggotsKris can't be the girl since he has a human soul with human parts
>>722313538Deltarune further complicates things, because monsters aren't just anthros. There are also monsters with feral body types, xeno body types, and even objects for bodies. Snowdrake is built like a chicken, but would anyone be able to call it bestiality if some human girl decided she wanted his yiddish bird dick?
>>722313685ask Noelle's hymen
>>722313685Carol wouldn't let Kris date Noelle otherwise
>>722313829the vessel existsthe prince is 100% ralsei, the concept art proves thissusie being the second hero is brought into question because susie in the prophecy (or at least ralsei's version of it) very much looks like her
>>722313557I'm not talking about how similar the games are. I'm talking about the fervent, rabid, autism it inspires in people. Deltarune fans are the only ones I've ever seen defeat a vhu thread takeover. And now they've been going around sticking up DR sprites wherever they can fit them.
>>722313784Except we have characters with SUBTLE tranny flags saying they are boys in anime now
>>722313912Yeah right, because Toby never tampered with concept art to hide stuff
>>722313646Its funny how two people can look at the same text and see completely different things. I read this as Kris mimicing Dess because she was all he knew. Meanwhile you read it as the knight mimicing Kris because he was all it knew.
>>722313784The Japanese are conservative and largely anti-wokeHowever, they're incredibly weak and bow (sometimes literally) to mild confrontation and criticism. Once they genuinely open the floodgates migrants will gut their society like no one has ever seen. Britain will look like an evangelical white ethnostate in comparison. Even leftists will be a little uncomfortable with how easy japan is to completely destroy.
Knight is Kris' original soul + Dess dust
>>722313993God proto Sussie was so much better than the ugly thing we got
>>722313749In Russia, I'd imagine.
>>722314013within their own culture, yesbut when people who do not look or act like them start pulling shit, don't be surprised if the japanese get very pissed very quickly
>>722313784That shit wasn't native to the US either. It started as a purposeful counter intelligence campaign by the Soviets to fund and promote socialism in universities, and slowly grew into the monster we see today.
>>722313993not exactly the same comparing the ancient original character art to concept art that was designed when the game was actively being made
>>722313829Who says one person can't serve multiple roles?
>>722314021This desu. Kris soul is somewhere, the knight is Kris
>>722314085Don't forget that time the communists were getting too powerful, so they just murdered their party leader on live TV with a katana. The Japs are crazy when provoked.
>>722313194>a political factionDemons, yes. Or "monsters," befitting the thread; and just like in the games, they're not deserving of mercy.
>>722313941If you're talking about wplace, I checked my city and it seems like DR stuff is nowhere as prominent as it used to be.
>>722314013It's more like they have their public and private life. Public life is pretty "conservative" and tries to maintain social cohesion. Private life is anything goes and nobody cares so long as it's kept hidden. Also a lot of things are played for laughs, like crossdressing and it allows people who unironically like doing it an excuse to do it. Some of their biggest celebrities are drag queens that you see on TV all the time because it's funny and not because they're trying to be more inclusive, but in the end they come out being more inclusive.
>>722314257That's still going?
Compare the visuals of the three heroes between chapter 1 and chapter 4. Ralsei looks the same in both, while the images for the cage and girl look completely different. Do you *really* think that's a coincidence? Do you not think there is a reason for that?
>>722314114Point is, he wouldn't reveal a big twist like that by publishing concept art.
>>722314303there's nothing to hide with that art, it's close enough to what we see in ch1 that there's no harm in showing the final few drafts of it with the character art, now that we know toby tampered with it we have to assume that there's more hiding in the black spaces of it
>>722307375Seriously who is this?
>>722314303The concept art doesn't reveal anything, it's just a hint. Ralsei being the dark prince is not a twist. It's the obvious conclusion and the only reason to doubt it is eternally subversive theoryfag brainrot.
>>722313829Who said (You) are the human soul inside Kris?
>>722314864The game?
>>722311756Kris is also the shortest party member and human. The rest of the party members are taller and monsters, they likely all have bigger hands to match and might not even have the correct amount of fingers.
>>722315263The soul is a device you control, not literally you. Kris and the soul have a history that you are uninvolved in, and sometimes the soul acts on its own.
>>722315263I should've typed "human" like that for you to noticebut honestly i don't remember if game ever addressed you as a HUMAN soul
>>722315648I really think you're reading into it too hard.
"Human parts" refers to the vessel you make at the start of the game. Kris doesn't have "parts", just the single human body. He steals the soul from the vessel.
>>722305309i cant defeat the fucking knight arghhh
>>722315861Where's his own soul then?Obviously he wasn't always a creepy nerdy incel freak
>>722313601We love it
>>722313947This episode really BTFOd the progressives though when it concluded Momoe's arc with a big emotional moment when she literally declared "I am a girl".Not that it wasn't obvious from the beginning that this would be how her arc ends. I have no clue how anyone managed to misread her character as a closeted pooner.
>>722313912The problem with trying to use the Vessel to debunk Kris being the Cage outright is that no one in the story acts like they have or can use the Vessel. If the plan was to use the Vessel as the Cage, Kris wouldn't take personal possession of the SOUL for Dark World excursions, knowing or after finding out that we'd battle for autonomy. It'd be safer and easier to have us through the Vessel do Kris's work instead, and everyone in on the plan could subtly guide us towards fulfilling the prophecy. Or stuff us in a locked box until the Roaring Group Chat could figure out how to use the Vessel.Ralsei was definitely stretching the truth and lying by omission with the version of the prophecy he told Kris and Susie. But I don't think he did it in such a way where it'd be completely inaccurate considering the party they had, otherwise his plan of following the prophecy and hoping for the best would fail before it even started by having ineligible candidates. He specifically lists having a Human, a Monster, and a Prince from the Dark. The last one maps 1:1 to the Prince, that one's easy. But for Kris to be the Girl would require Susie to be the Cage, which would be a problem since she doesn't use the SOUL, and even if she is half-human, there's zero indication that Kris or Ralsei know that yet, which would lead Ralsei to resolutely frame Susie as the Monster and Kris as the Human, making Kris the Cage and Susie the Girl.In the off-chance they do know about Susie being a hybrid, Noelle's involvement wouldn't matter; she wouldn't be able to replace Susie as the Cage since she has no human parts. She could only replace Kris as the Girl in this instance, which you're already against it being possible, yet Kris is overly protective and secretive about the nature of the Dark Worlds to the point of violently lashing out against us in the Weird Route.
>>722316720>He specifically lists having a Human, a Monster, and a Prince from the Dark.I forgot to mention this'd outright disqualify Kris and the Vessel both being candidates at the same time, since they're both human.
>>722316542>Obviously he wasn't always a creepy nerdy incel freakBasically everything we hear about Kris says he was.
>>722316720The Human/Monster/Prince version was made up retroactively for the current trio. The real one is Cage/Girl/Prince, which still fits the trio, just not perfectly due to the pictures. There is zero reason to assume the "real" prophecy requires a human/monster/prince, since we already saw the real prophecy panels. The entire point of the facade is to trick Susie into becoming the second hero.
>>722310590It's an amalgamate.
>>722316720>>722316912the thing with the prophecy is that it doesn't seem to care about the specifics, as long as the wording is correct then anything else goesthere's nothing stopping both the vessel and kris from being the cage and the girl respectively, it only calls for the specified requirements, and being a monster is not one of them, with the second hero/ girl being the most strict, as it has the most rules/ requirementsthere's a high chance susie isn't actually one of the heroes, or is analogous to whatever 'the dragon' is in the true prophecy
>>722316720I still don't see why someone can't fill multiple roles in the prophecy. Maybe Kris is the girl and the cage. There's also the possibility that the roles have been switched around. Maybe the vessel was meant to be the cage, but now Kris is playing that part.
>>722317221there is a theory floating around that the 'heroes' are a single person at various parts of the journey although being a girl and a prince don't seem to fit, unless were operating on utena rules where prince is more of a personality thing than a title
>>722317315a prince could mean in the classical "lesser ruler" sense rather than "male son of a king" sense. Or a character could be acting like a male, but then be revealed to be female later. Say if Kris were to be revealed to be female later in the story. I was speaking in terms of Kris being the girl and the cage, not so much every role being filled by one character.
To summarize FemKris theory: in the original prophecy, the three heroes are:- The cage (Vessel)- The girl (Kris)- The prince (Ralsei)It's implied in episode 4 that being the girl is a very bad thing and leads to tragedy. Therefore Kris and Ralsei plot together to swap candidates. Kris steals the soul from the vessel, and they become:- The human/cage (Kris)- The monster/girl (Sussie)- The prince (Ralsei)For whatever reason, Sussie appears to have the power change fate, and they believe her taking the role will lead to a better outcome. Kris so strongly believes in this scheme she goes as far as to erase all traces of femininity, so there's no chance of anyone making her the second hero. After all, if she goes back to being the second girl, the only person who can fill the remaining role is the vessel. Sussie can no longer be a hero.
>>722317071>The entire point of the facade is to trick Susie into becoming the second hero.Correct, that's my point. If the plan was to use the Vessel as the Cage and Kris as the Girl, Susie wouldn't even be involved, and framing the prophecy in this way would be completely unnecessary. Kris definitely wanted Susie to be involved, since Kris at the end of Chapter 4 was very clearly deciding between siding with Susie and likely opening up about the plans, or siding with the Knight and continuing to lead her on.>>722317202>>722317221The thing you're missing is that it does not matter what the prophecy specifically says if the point was to lead someone out of the loop into becoming one of the Heroes in it. It just has to be described in such a way such that their current configuration would also happen to fulfill the actual conditions.For this to happen, Kris and Ralsei have to know their options. If they don't have the Vessel, they don't have another option for the Cage. Again, it doesn't matter if it turns out that, by the "Cage", the prophecy means the Vessel, just what Kris and Ralsei think would work, because that and that alone dictates who they bring along and how they progress. They felt that they needed someone else, they managed to get Susie, and it's likely because they wanted Susie to be the Girl and Kris to be the Cage.If it could all be fulfilled by one hero, that's another thing, but Kris and Ralsei are not operating on that assumption.
>>722317582We're talking about two different things. You're talking about what Kris and Ralsei think they're doing, while I'm talking what they would actually fill.
>>722317702My broader point being that, if Kris felt capable of being the Girl, there would either have to be another option available for the Cage (requiring having the Vessel or knowing Susie would technically work), or Kris would have to know that you can fulfill multiple roles on your own (which would make Susie's involvement unnecessary). Neither appears true based on the actions the Fun Gang has taken so far, therefore it's unlikely that Kris is even eligible.
>>722318020>Neither appears true based on the actions the Fun Gang has taken so far, therefore it's unlikely that Kris is even eligible.I don't understand where you're getting this from. The goal is trick Sussie into becoming the second hero, and they're doing so. The main trio fulfill the conditions of the prophecy panels.
FemKris theory is actually very similar to the Noelle = Second Hero theory. However it is superior because it answers an additional question: why does the vessel exist? If Kris is the prophesized cage, the vessel serves no purpose. If he's not and stole that role from it, that raises additional question instead of providing answers. You'd have to answer why he did that, and what Kris's original role in the story was was. FemKris follows Occam's Razor very well. It provides the most answers with the least unexplained assumptions.
>>722318167Perhaps there's one thing I glossed over: I believe Susie is supposed to replace Noelle as the Second Hero, not Kris. I otherwise completely agree with you that that is what's happening.
>>722318020In this scenario Kris was originally the girl, but she took the soul and rejected her femininity so she could be the cage instead, then forced the role of the girl onto Susie.Kris knows she can and should be the girl, but she is actively trying not to be it.
>talking to a friend about deltarune >they said they hadn't played it yet previously but now know a bunch from the new chapters>oh so did you play it now? >no I watched a playthrough lolshoot me
>>722318336Toby would never hit us with the detranskino. Millions of fans would commit suicide.
>>722306065Anime is canon so they are just watching too much of them.
>>722318346why are you friends with that "person"?
>>722318448Ironically I did find a single reddit comment discussing the Kris = second hero theory. It called the prophecy transphobic and was downvoted.
>>722318346That's literally 99% of the fandom.You're the minority.
>>722318498I don't have other options
>>722318538Why are you browsing r*ddit?
>>722318246>If Kris is the prophesized cage, the vessel serves no purpose. If he's not and stole that role from it, that raises additional question instead of providing answers. You'd have to answer why he did that, and what Kris's original role in the story was was.If Kris is the Girl, Noelle serves no purpose. None of her development is relevant. There's no pragmatic reason for the Weird Route. She cannot be any of the other Heroes. There would be no reason for Kris to be this far apart from Noelle, especially if Kris knows or at least interprets that the Girl needs love to fulfill the conditions.It makes far more sense if Noelle's the Girl, and Susie's the replacement. Kris and Ralsei would have a reason to involve Susie and lead her on. Kris would have a reason to stick with Susie's lie about the Dark Worlds being a dream, and would think it outright necessary to bridge the distance between the two if it means she's not in any more danger. Kris would have to choose between Susie and the Knight. All because Kris cannot be the Girl and the entire plan has that in mind.
Toby will give (You) the option to decide Kris's gender. Despite thinking of this as woke, Toby will be canceled by the woke mob.
>>722318538redditors only like bullshit meme theories, anything that requires them to actually play the game and use the clues that are actually given is too much to ask for themi subscribe to the kris = the girl theory but i also am ready for toby to not actually go through with it in fear of backlash
>>722318687if it means Noelle's* not in any more danger
>>722318687the angel, anonnoelle is the angel, or at the very least very much tied to itshe's constantly compared to one in ch2, and is even referred to as such by spamtonthere's nothing stopping both noelle and susie from being important to the prophecy even if they aren't the heroes
>>722300925Susie is the only real one for Kris
>>722300925He already has a gf at home
>>722318687I believe that Noelle is another candidate for the second hero, which replaces Sussie in the Weird route due to the soul's efforts. That is why the route is called "Weird", and not "Origin". Kris hates this because being the second hero is very bad and only Sussie is special enough to take it on and survive. The reason why Kris and Noelle grew distant is specifically to minimize the chance of ANYONE but Sussie joining them.
>>722309498What is Noelle holding?
>>722318970she's trying a noose
>>722318637To see if anyone brought up the theory before and if there are any counterarguments. Outside of these threads, the answer is no.
>>722313656Don't worry, once all the violent rapist indians wake up the japs to the fact that their status quo is going down the shitter and not in a fun way where they can escape into NTR doujins and instant noodles, they'll actually be forced to do something about global influence corrupting the land of the rising sun.
>>722318784Yet it's somehow outlandish that Noelle can't also be the Second Hero, when you're out here proposing that Kris can be all three Heroes, somehow?The Angel can just as well be us. Aside from which, what would even be the significance of WHITE_CLOAK? Or both her and HERO_SWORD getting used up? If the final tragedy treats Noelle as the Angel and not the Girl considering this, this would leave Susie with more questions than frustration.>>722318965>only Sussie is special enough to take it on and surviveSusie was considered disposable. She was new in town, and everyone didn't like her. No one would miss her if she was gone, the world would keep going even if she didn't exist.Kris found out that it isn't that simple. Now there's a choice to make between telling Susie the truth or siding with the Knight. This is far more compelling and narratively poignant than just losing confidence in Susie's capability.
>>722318498A friend of mine got into the game because of Spamtenna porn, but she got filtered by Tenna's fight and watched the rest online lmao
>>722319185I think the reason they made Susie into the hero is because she's strong. That is her very consistent trait. And what do you do in the Weird route? You make Noelle strong. In order to survive as as the second hero, you need great strength. I can't believe Kris and Ralsei would throw Susie under the bus. Ralsei especially would not allow that. They want everyone to survive.
>>722312409>Deltarune fan project>immediately damns itself to aging like milk by directly involving GasterEvery fuckin' time man.
>>722318943>WhorielI feel sorry for him
>>722319343>I can't believe Kris and Ralsei would throw Susie under the bus.Ralsei wouldn't. Kris did, once upon a time, then made the foolish mistake of finding out that Susie is actually really cool. I don't think Ralsei knows the full extent of Kris's plans, he's probably on a need-to-know basis as much as us and everyone else involved. He thought following the prophecy would be the best course of action, that it would somehow lead to something different if they were just nice enough to everyone. He probably didn't even consider what Kris initially had in plans for Susie.I'd debate more, but it's late. My closing thoughts are that the current plot progression makes no sense if Kris is the Girl, and would require a ton of explanation, or worse, retconning, to even make viable, while Kris not being the Girl (and in fact, not being a girl) would require zero retrofitting and the entire story still works, I'd argue far better.
>>722319493There's no way to be safe from lore changes in this fandom. Even Undertale is still getting major lore drops ten years later. May as well make your Gaster wank and not bother with canon compliance at all.Deltratraveler is still shit though.
>>722319597Nta, but I still don't see how that rules out the possibility of Kris being the intended girl, but trying to force that role on Susie so that fate changes. If anything it works better with that. And neither of those theories disprove the idea that, regardless of Kris's intentions and actions, she ends up being the girl in the prophecy anyways.
>>722309683my nigga Kenji
>>722318246Kris wasn't supposed to be anything before the vessel was hijacked. They just weren't in the prophecy to begin with. This is an even simpler explanation.
>>722312037Apple scent is an obvious cope masked tsundere behavior. What susie wants is kris
>>722320070>tsundere x tsundere pairingI can't tell if this is a match made in heaven or a match made in hell.
>>722319976I'll believe that when we get definitive proof within the narrative itself that Kris was originally never meant to be involved, because from where it currently stands, there is no other outcome.You can replay that opening all you want in hopes of averting the discarding, but Gaster won't intervene or set up precautions to prevent history repeating, he'll let it happen every single time, because that's what's "supposed to" happen, it's all part of his design for the experiment.
>>722319976If Kris is a nobody, then why are they in the story? What is the purpose of the cage role being hijacked from someone we never see by a completely random person for no apparent reason?
>>722319976>the entire party are out of place replacements for the original prophecy heroesSo Kris replaces the vessel, Susie replaces Noelle, who does Ralsei replace?
>>722320176Nobody. There are zero hints of the prince role being filled by anyone else. In fact, if you reject FemKris theory, there are zero reasons for any substitutions to take place at all.
>>722320326Kris is still actively replacing the vessel. As for Ralsei, he could be made specifically for this purpose. In which case whoever made him may have simply made him differently from how the prophecy originally intended. Perhaps they used a different object.
>>722320172to change the outcome of the story. If you keep changing the starting variables, the ending is bound to change.
>>722313601> No gendershit discussions> No thought police > No wrong think police > No random drama It's much better than English speaking side.
>>722312409>It's just trolling self-aware Noelle into getting more and more madOkay this is actually pretty funny
I hope that somewhere in chapters 6 and 7 there is a secret area that uses happy town and meat factory and its the most fucked up shit ever. Like going from a family friendly rpg to straight up horror game.
>>722320424>>722320463Why is Kris replacing the vessel? FemKris answers this by her already being a part of the prophecy, so she's dragged into it either way. What reason does random NPC Kris have?The answer is none (AKA, wait and see). That's an objectively worse theory.
>>722317561You're unironically retarded if you think gender/sex crap of any human character will ever be relevant in ANY capacity.It's of the same direction if you were to build a theory that Kris' is actually Marge's and Homer's kid because he's yellow.
>>722320632Why? These kind of twists happen in anime stories that Toby loves. If sex is not relevant, why was it mentioned in the prophecy? The only reasons it couldn't happen are metatextual (the fanbase is too woke).
>>722320632The fact that Undertale Gerson was topping some they/them human mage pussy back in the day is proof enough that Toby will literally never give a human an actual confirmed gender, no matter how significant or insignificant that human is.Kris is only ever going to suit the role of Cage, because it's the only hero that isn't gendered.
>>722320734> Why was it mentioned in the prophecy?To be fucking vague you retarded tranny, whatever it's Susie, Noelle, or even Dess, same fucking reason why it's vague regarding Kris' and Ralsei' prophecies.
Fem Kris is theory is being pushed by a discord tranny btw.
>>722320627Kris, and Carol, or whoever was the voice in the phone, made Kris into the Cage so they can attempt to twist this predetermined story into accomplishing their goal, be it bringing December back, or building a new reality everyone is happy, whatever it is, that would be the basis of the current antagonistHow does that make less sense than Kris being the Girl when two far stronger candidates already exist? What is the central point of Kris being the Girl in the first place? The girl with hope crossed on her heart, the girl who love finds its way to? How does that fit Kris' character in any manner?
>>722300925kris wouldn't beat the allegations even if they dated another human
noelle lusts for BWC, doe (as a doe)
>>722321112
>>722321060Makes sense, I was wondering why is this fag theory always pops out in every single delatrune thread.
>>722321119As Tricky Tony intended.
>>722321213It's the literal only place this theory can be pushed too, if he did it anywhere else he'd be cannibalized by the other troons because Kris being anything but nonbinary is problematic and transphobic.I'm sure he also has a "Ralsei is actually The Girl" theory to suit that trans engagement on the usual haunts, to make up for his inability to push "Kris is actually The Girl" outside of /v/.
>>722321240Destruction of suselle is top priority
>>722321094Right, so the reason is to be determined. The central point of Kris being the girl is that she doesn't *want* that. It explains why she acts so bizarre and so weirdly distant from everyone. Why she stays away from Noelle (she doesn't want to find love), or why she has the soul (to find LOVE). Kris being a girl who rejects her femininity and destiny explains a lot of things. Kris being a nobody explains nothing.
I want to be raped and dommed by muffet..
>>722300925I'd take that tile if I had Muffet
>>722321501...Or maybe it's because Kris directly knows and is related to what happened to Dress? Or the fact that Kris lost his original soul? Or that his hand is a goner hand? And he simply feels guilt about what happened and now is directly involved to fulfill the "PROMISE" that he made?Your tranny theory revolves around your AGP fetish that you project into Kris, not actual in game evidence, faggot.
>>722316623Funny how this screenshot contains two examples of tasteful localization at once.
>>722318346To be fair, the very reason I got into UTDR is because of watching a playthrough.
Carol "dick obliterator" Holiday
>>722322142She's made for (Me).
>>722322142Asgore fucks this?
>>722322295Did I ever tell you about bisexual_sandwich?
>>722322295nah, she fucks asgore
>>722322295Nah Asgore just gets MINDFUCKED instead. I'm falling in love with the idea that Asgore is gonna become a light world schizo boss
>CHADsgore gets carol and rudy>CHADsriel got dess >CHADris gets noelleTorielkeks.....
I wish I could tell Kris how much I want to torture him
>>722321704Well if you're resorting to ad hominem, I'd argue you're wrong because you're a fag that drinks dragon cum.
>>722322142>picthe "I'm ready to make another Dess" look
>>722322487just as the angel intendedlike father, like sonshttps://files.catbox.moe/z3i0eo.png
>>722313321Anthros would look pretty bizarre if they were realThe cartoon styled ones that people like do a lot that make the idea actually look good
>>722306414>>722310459What if the conch isn’t referring to Kris or the Knight, but to FRIEND? What if FRIEND is the one who imitates others?
>>722322142why does she want kris to fuck her daughter
>>722322786Implying you wouldn't
>>722322896its not about kriselle winning but specifically suselle losing
>>722322896She noe's that her daughter is trending towards rugmunching. Best to get Noelle dicked down and bred before it's too late
>>722322896She wants to see Susie kill herself
>>722322405Dios mio....
>>722322487>>722322624DreemurGODS... I kneel...
>>722313947>tee hee, I'm a boy!>gets raped>gets pregnant>kills herselfTruly a progressive take to show how little your own body cares about the identity flags.
>>722322624Asgore being Carol’s bull is my favorite headcanon
>>722323917Eh, I prefer them being a happy throuple. If anyone can pull it off, it's them.
>>722300925>Toby, despite having awful taste, accidentally made a hmofa paradiseI kneel...
>>722324040Inb4 he somehow fucks it up
>>722307005My man
>>722307005>>722324462Never ask human supremacist the species of his girlfriend.
>>722305821Anyone who doesn't chose right is GAY.
>>722305821I pick left with the artystyle of right.
>>722306845It's in universe plausible but out of universe there are a ton of western fans that would literally murder Toby if he did that.
>>722309758Same here.
>>722305821Counterpoint - Japanese art is fucking boring. With Western art, the lows are lower, but highs are so much higher.
>>722319976Kris is supposed to be the Knight. That's his original role.
>>722316720>He thinks Gaster is in any way related to the Roaring Group Chat aside from just being the guy they stole the Soul fromlol lmao
>>722321060Proof?
>>722318943>>722319569It's amazing how quickly Toby made some people turn on the goat mom.
>>722310590It's Dess body after having absorbed Kris soul.
>>722326180This is pretty much my take, but the first hero was meant to be Dess. Whatever happened in the Bunker seems to have fucked with the roles (Dess might have sacrificed herself, when Kris was the one meant to go 'missing')Remember the first hero text purposely avoids describing them as human, only saying they have human parts...
>>722311949From other humans.The moment Kris moves to college every single human is going to be snickering behind his back.>>722312037It doesn't do anything. Deer scent is too strong.
>>722314061Real susie is better because her hair is cuter when it's shaggy but i hope she makes that long middle face somewhere
>>722307738>Flirts with literally everyone, including a pile of slimeShe's a slut.
Why is suselle so poorly written compared to Krusie or Kriselle?
>>722325301Not my fault fat monster girls are superior breeding partners
>>722313321Fags would hate them. they'd bascially just be another group of minorities.
>>722313393Yes and no.Both fandoms are prone to not playing the games. But at least Deltarune fans seem to understand the games and the fans on some level. Touhou fans do not.
Pedophile tranny thread
>>722326710They have virtually zero significant interactions outside of scenes that drive the "romance" forward. It feels forced to hard to believe, unlike krusie, who are constantly goofing around and having heartfelt moments with each other. And kriselle, where there is already a shared past and implications of unrequited love. We're supposed to believe that Susie and Noelle, who barely even spoke to each other prior to chapter 2, are actually madly in love with each other despite their interactions totaling to about three short conversations. It's not even that it's poorly written, it's that it isn't written at all. It barely even exists.
>>722326710Because Suselle interactions are explicitly written as romantic and Toby is bad at it and writes it as an generic anime romance. Meanwhile Krusie and Kriselle can be interpreted in anyway you like.
>>722321661same aquabro
>>722326781I literally never played and will never play Touhou and I still have a money clip with chinese girl engraved on it.
>>722327049Suselle is so bad I can't picture it being anything but intentionally bad. As if he's saying 'There's no way this could work but let the idiots dream'
>Kris thread
>>722327135Did you watch the anniversary stream? 10 years later and he still thinks alphdyne was written well and explicitly compares it to suselle.
>>722327187Do not trust this vixen with young human boys.
>>722327187>>722327230But anonShe's a doe.
>>722326765The nasty raunchy sinful shit I'd do to Catty...hnng
>>722327281All reindeer have antlers
>>722326710In chapter 2 it was just obnoxiously forced. Chapter 4 turned it into dumpster fire, with Noelle acting so unspeakably awful that if she wasn't a girl, she would've been the most hated character in the game.
>>722326710>the cope: Suselle is a red herring and is being set up to fail in-universe>the bitter reality: Toby (like many writers) sucks at romance to the point where his explicitly platonic dynamic have more chemistry than Suselle
>>722327303I know that but she's a deer. Not a fox.
>>722326710Because you (Kris) are actively interacting with Susie and Noelle, both narratively and through gameplay.You 'watch' Susie and Noelle interact most times, so you feel disconnected.You're being told that they are connecting like that pic or forced to watch some cutscene with them.
>>722327135Toby literally said girls like Undyne like girls like Alphys. He loves his lesbians.
>>722327402I mean, Alphdyne wasn't THAT bad. If it happens, this means that either Toby had regressed in this particular area despite his writing drastically improving everywhere else, or he is being strongarmed by trannies and dykes on his team.>explicitly platonic dynamic Yeah, this scene just screams "platonic", especially with indirect kiss in the end.
>>722326418>Original party was meant to be Dess, Asriel, and somebody else (Vessel?")>Something went wrong and Dess was disqualified.
>>722327281She's a wendigo that has yet to reach her true form.
If the whole town is furries who the fuck is gonna care you're a furry?If anything your hypothetical girlfriend(male) would be the one getting strange looks.
>mfw the unskippable explicit scissoring sex scene between susie and noelle in chapter 7The Snowgrave route has a brief mean-spirited bad ending in chapter 5 btw
>>722327646He loves doomed romances more...
>Toby is bad at writing romance>Kriselle is basically peak tragic romance to such a extent that the entire fandom basically willed it into second place despite having a entire route about how it's a bad idea and will enver happen.
>>722327724"Indirect" kisses are so fucking lame.
>>722327893>spoilerNot on my watch.That faggot is going in the r63 machine pronto.
>>722328018>second placeWhere are the full rankings?
>>722327656>You can watch child on monster porn on a .com website.This is the world human traitors wanted during the great monster war, never forget.
>>722328018Toby is bad at writing romance when he tries to write romance, but incredible at writing romance when he isn't trying to. It's very ironic.
>>722327298Happy loving sex with Catty. Lusty passionate sex with Catti to break through her shell of apathy.
>>722300925built for BIG MONSTER COCK
>>722328114I'm going off AO3 rankings.
>>722327893I forgot I wasn't dyslexic and was extremely confused by the spanish
>>722328174is the cat family actually obese or is it just their build
>>722328168>isn't trying to.Kinda hard to believe that in some instances.
>>722327965>Implying Suselle won't be doomed.
Why is she like this?
>>722328451Parenting
>>722328423If he's actually that good when trying, he should put some of that effort into Suselle instead of resorting to bottom-of-the-barrel guitar-lesbians tropes.
>>722328451Because Kris abandoned her
>>722322538Tranny.
>>722328513susie's never dropping the axes after being called axe of justicethat title is stickingnoelle can equip kris's swords though
>>722327656Sauce?
>>722328803Dude, it says so in the art...
>>722328451It's a predatory/prey fetish thingIf you showed her how dangerous humans can be she'll fall back in line
What was his major malfunction?
>>722329008Autism.
>>722328540His lesbo writing just makes him go stupid for some reason, especially when he writes one of the characters in an ironic horny way with a generic romcom anime vibe that reloves around progression through accidents(with the world pushing them together half of the time), compared to how heartfelt shit like that one cyber city walk section felt, or the "normal" Kris scenes in chapter 4 WR(an actual scene where he's trying to write romance). It feels like a fic of his own work in the former.
>>722326710>90% of Susie and Noelle’s interactions are just Noelle masturbating to Susie’s existence while Susie is too dense to notice>Susie has more comedic and emotional moments with Kris and RALSEI than with Noelle>Noelle has a strong emotional connection with Kris (which Kris also having a lot of the same traits Noelle seemingly likes about Susie)>even the big Suselle moment has Noelle and Susie constantly bring up KrisIf Toby is a Susellefag then holy fuck he is not doing them any favors.
>>722316720one theory i had about the vessel is that it does exist, but is waiting for its usemaybe something horrible happens to the cage, and the idea that the knight/the phone voice/carol have is to get kris to act like the cage all the way up until that happens (to have some sort of direct control over the narrative/prophecy), at which point they swap kris for the vessel as the cage and leave you (ie the player) for deadthe cage only having "human parts" does make it very sus, it's a very specific way to describe it compared to the prince and the girl, it definitively could be that there's some hybrid out there that fits the cage description despite not being fully human, most likely susie
Sex with berdleys mom
>>722328332Hard to tell since they are all like that. I'm just going with build since they are all built kind of heavy
>>722329342I HATE in romances where a character goes "huuhhh???? why am i feeling this way, huhhhh??? ok anyway", it's so half-assed, especially when it's adults doing it. at least alphydyne doesn't have undyne doing that shit, credit where it's due
>>722326710Suselle feels very magnetized, their interactions are very contrived and surface level, chapter 4 tries to fix this but really I'm not sure if Toby realizes how forced it feelsAlso not to mention if Suselle is endgame, the MC (ie you) are pretty much just an awkward third wheel/cuck which doesn't feel good
>>722328451>that game on the screenthank god i played this shit for free
>>722329553>Pro-active yet ditzy milf who was most likely a brat back in highschool.
>>722328168He can write good romance, he'a just terrible at writing romance he actually likes. It's bad taste.
Reminder that Bratty wants Catti to wear fishnet bodysuit.
>>722310590my theory for this is that if any souless being is in the dark world, the dark world thinks they are an object and changes them
>>722326710Chapter 5 will be THE Suselle chapter with an entire hour long gameplay segment seeing Susie and Noelle intensely interact and this place will call it the worst chapter in the game for that reason
>>722328018>despite having a entire route about how it's a bad idea and will never happen.To be fair the weird route is more about how (YOU) getting them together through shared trauma and suffering is a bad idea
>>722330009You are the only one I've seen who interpreted that line like that.
>>722330125How else I'm supposed to interpret it? I want to see Catti in fishnet bodysuit too
>>722322487toriel gets rammed by the most desired man in the fandom, how is this a loss
>>722330208It's a comical way of expressing how much she sheds, not an earnest request for her to wear lingerie.
>>722330326This fandom has notoriously bad taste though. They actually think that Alphys is better off with Undyne rather than Asgore.
>>722330058The festival will 100% be Suselle wank and a lot of the drama will be Carol not approving their relationship and Susie being afraid of the "love finds it's way to the girl" prophecy.
>>722329008>feels like a outcast>childhood idol got GASTERED>parents are divorced >brother is at college>mom is completely oblivious to your issues>afraid to interact with closest friend>wrapped up in a plot he’s not cut out for >is possessed by a cosmic entity he’s not allowed to tell anyone about >furryEverything. Everything is kris’ problem
>>722330452Don't forget the jealousy part being entirely from Kris silently seething and coping the whole time
>>722330539maybe he should've given me my fucking vessel
>>722330058>Chapter 4 will be THE Suselle chapters and this place will commit suicides, send death threats to Toby and make DeltasnootThat's what Susellefags were saying back in May
>>722330639No, that's from Asgore being a cuck. Kris will be in his evil fountain openers group.
>>722330379bad taste or not, that's just how women are, they genuinely enjoy sans so trying to spin it as a loss for them makes no sense. >They actually think that Alphys is better off with Undyne rather than Asgore.both are dubious implausible ships but I'd have to say undyne is slightly better because she's at least interested in anime. alphys is a disgusting lazy weeb, she has no reason to be dating a motivated athletic jock like undyne. asgore is a country boomer who also would have nothing in common with alphys outside of being a depressed loser. not to mention asgore is coming out of a marriage with his literal soulmate, finding that feeling of love again is hard enough and he's not going to find it with some incarnation of a 20 something year old tumblr nerd.
>>722330745idk how asgore being a cuck burns down the field of pink and gold(paired colors that come closely with suselle through their token battle colors and their ferris wheel(and admittedly even moreso towards friend but w/e))
>>722330539You know, I would feel more sorry for him if he FUCKING talked.He could leave a letter behind every morning and I would follow it.
>>722330921Field of pink and gold will be sakura petals falling into golden flowers because Toby is a weeb.
>>722330879>that's just how women are, they genuinely enjoy sans so trying to spin it as a loss for them makes no sense.Women don't like Soriel that much, though. Some Japanese fangirls dislike it because it takes away from their precious Frans
>>722327724>>722329618Alphdyne KINDA WORKED because Undyne and Alphys were already shown to have a connection before getting together, the love plot wasn’t stretched out of several hours, and somehow ALPHYS was less creepy about her feelings than Noelle.
>>722331365Susie and Noelle already did have a connection bigot. She gave her a pencil once and that made Susie fall in love
>>722331365>the love plot wasn’t stretched out of several hours,It was, though. You just feel Suselle goes for longer because of the WAIT.
the pippins are all such naughty little sluts. How does Tenna control himself on set?
How fucked is Kris once his betrayal is revealed?
