I played this game for 20 hours and feel like I was lied to. This is the least fun game I have ever played. I've put off playing its sequel for years now because I was under some delusion that if I just gave SCP Shelter one more chance it would get good.
>>722303515It's frustrating enough that I've never finished it because I'm a perfectionist and keep reloading the day anytime anything goes wrong. I'm guessing it's better if you're okay with Agents dying.What don't you like about it though? It's exactly what it says on tin, a management sim for SCPs.
>>722303515It's great, you may just not like the genre. It's really difficult so it's not everybodies jam.
>>722303515Its borderline kusoge but its worth it to push through to the end because its a one of a kind novel experience. Some anons really got some rose tinted glasses for it though.
It's an acquired taste, people like it in spite of itself for the greater experience it gives when taken as a wholethe sequel is actually intrinsically fun and completely different gameplay-wise, being a more standard card battler
>>722303515It is the definition of 'not for everyone'. People who like it really like it, everyone else gets understandably filtered
I like the game but I always get filtered, i'm too much of a brainlet to fully enjoy koreakino...
i really liked this game but got filtered hard by the last few days, maybe i will restart one day
>>722303592I reset every time a nugget died on random days and it was fineif you reset after one nugget dies when clearing binah's suppresion that's on you
LC is a rough game, it won't appeal to everyone. And it's even a plot point that the game is bullshit difficult to make you suffer.The sequel plays absolutely nothing alike it, and it does catch you up on the plot of the first game (as well as several of the character dynamics, but not all) through having a different protagonist that is going to be just as unfamiliar with the events of Lobotomy Corp as anyone who skipped the first game. Take solace in the fact that you actually gave LC a try, which is more than a lot of people can claim to their name.I say you can jump into Library of Ruina with no fear. Leave this thread immediately before you get spoiled on the story because that is genuinely something you only can get 1 chance to get a first impression of.
>>722303592How slow it is, the difficulty and the resetting doesn't bother me but everything from how much energy you need to how slow your guys move just feels excessive. I installed a 10X speed mod my last and final session making it to day 35 and its still grating to play.
Project Moon has an overwhelming amount of secondaries on Roblox and shit, and it's completely justified. You can't beat any of those games in just a couple days.
>>722303850the dead days are easily the worst part of the game.How many meltdowns have you managed so far?
>>722303850training justice makes them move faster them being slow as shit is only an issue before hod's suppression
>>722303904The big boss ones? I haven't seen one.
>>722303903>it's completely justified.it's never justified
>>722303850Are you doing Justice training or using the mirror for faster movement? More importantly are you working just one abnormality at a time or a bunch at once?The latter is the best way to speed things up, work every abnormality you can at once until one less then the meltdown/event trigger, then do one to trigger the meltdown and handle it, then repeat.Depending on your setup and abnormalities it should really only take like 2-3 cycles of that to meet the quota for the day if nothing goes wrong.You just need to keep scaling up the number of abnormalities you're working at once.
>>722304024if you do the missions that the sephirah give you, the final mission is the meltdown.finishing the meltdowns gives you a permanent buff that persists even through resets
>>722304024see that may be your issue. Try to complete missions ASAP, they unlock pseudo boss fights that really shake up the game and if you beat them you get some really good rewards.
I'm so interested in the lore of this series but the gameplay looks so tedious
>>722304024>Haven't even completed the tutorialNo wonder you hate the game. Really common for new players to ignore missions and end up at day 40 without actually progressing
>>722304205just pirate and play lobco. Its meant to be a blind experience
>>722304205I've played all three games, not even close to finishing one of them, and yes they are busywork. I resist the temptation to just watch the cutscenes on youtube, but it's hard for me to blame people for giving up.
>>722303515Very unique game. The only issue with it was the Korean spaghetti code.
>>722304113Doing multiple at a time doesnt really matter when I get like 15 from each and have a goal of almost 1000.>>722304182I only even have 1 mission available I think and its complete a dusk ordeal which I havent even reached noon more than once before.
it's fun until you end up with so many plates you have to keep spinning in unison. it's a plate spinning simulatorthen they decided to make ruina a trading card game because the autistic gameplay guy got really in to trading card games...no plates need spun. you will have to go through upwards of 60 minute long battles, so uhhh make sure you don't have to go anywhere
>>722304414>only done 1 mission>day 35oh shit nigger wut are u doing?!but seriously do missions, you are missing out on the genuinely engaging parts of the game by skipping them
>>722304415can't stand Ruina, dice rolls on top of cards is just too much RNG to be enjoyable
>>722304570just have big numbers so the dice result literally doesn't make a difference
>>722303515People never play these games due to their gameplay, they only play them because they find the characters fuckable.
>>722304414Ordeals are not made equal and it's random which one you get for each part of the day (at least before day 45). So just retrying the day and praying to rngsus for easier challenge may actually get you through dusk/midnight quota.
>>722304715bot post?
>>722304414>I only even have 1 mission available I think and its complete a dusk ordeal which I havent even reached noon more than once before.Okay, maybe that explains things. How many abnormalities do you have, and what level are they? You should get to a point where you have multiple WAW and ALEPH abnormalities giving 20 or 30 boxes each and making 100+ boxes just from those each cycle.>>722304415>it's fun until you end up with so many plates you have to keep spinning in unison. it's a plate spinning simulatorYes exactly. That's the intention of task management games whether it's Lobotomy Corporation or Dinner Dash, starting out slow with juggling one ball / spinning one plate then increasing the difficulty to see how many you can handle at once.I agree that it gets frustrating as hell if you don't like dropping plates though.
>>722304205Like >>722304314 said, you could pirate it to try it out and see if you bounce off it. Depends on how much you enjoy management sims, a mystery story or customizing a bunch of characters. Depending on how much you're interested in those things any of them could hook you.It's the kind of game I play while watching videos since you can queue up a bunch of actions and look away. If you don't manage things right though everyone might be dead when you look back.
>>722304867The only ones that produce that many boxes are the pile of arms and the slime girl which is worthless unless it looks like I have some very specific set up
I think I "get it" I think. I honestly think it's kind of fun, like needing to keep track of all the monsters you have and keeping notes in a notebook or a second screen is REALLY helpful and makes it an engaging experience. But I've heard that you have to fuck up ON PURPOSE sometimes, which is pretty fucking awful considering how much a minor screw up can domino effect. I just got to the part where they introduce the twins though, so I clearly suck. But if fucking up on purpose really IS something you have to do to get the true ending (by 100%ing the encyclopedia I think), that's the one thing that fucks with me. Also fuck that purple slab thing that kills a bunch of people if they're not doing anything. Sometimes I just need some agents on standby in case a monster breaks out.
>>722305048When you see the slabs coming up just move everyone in the main rooms to an adjacent hallway BEFORE ordering another work.
>>722303515never got the hype either
>>722305048you dont ever need to fuck up on purpose unless getting normal work results instead of good counts as fucking up.
>>722305028How many in total though? Even if lesser abnormalities give you 15, if you have 10 of those that's 150 per cycle of working them all. Add the higher level ones and that should be around 200 or more. Even with a goal of 1000 that's only 4-5 cycles.>>722305048It's kind of roguelite-ish with figuring out how to respond to each situation, for instance the monoliths are almost harmless once you figure out >>722305218 and get high enough agents/gear.As for doing things wrong on purpose, there are missions that require you to do certain things you wouldn't do otherwise like use fewer agents or defeat a certain number of abnormalities or such, but it's all stuff you can plan around. It's how the game adds variety to the challenge since you're doing different things for different missions instead of every day being the same.
>>722305048Yeah, the game relies heavily on figuring out and remembering who likes/dislikes what. Or keeping bunch of notes at hand.>you have to fuck up ON PURPOSE sometimesYou have to let people die sometimes, in grand scheme of things that isn't fucking up, that's acceptable price paid for progress.
it sucks because it doesn't even have proper rts controls like control groups, being able to move your guys to somewhere not just a room etc. and it is fucking shallow for what it is. You basically kite enemies all game by clicking at rooms.
>>722303515Yes, it's one of my favorite games, but it's very much in a "I like the way this sucks" way. I've never had an experience like it in any other game, and the setting and most of the characters are fascinating. Either you're too much of a bitch to finish it or you have the strength of spirit to power through, seeing as you made a seethe thread on /v/ you're probably the former but I wish you luck if you end up giving it another shot.
>>722303515Strategic management games like these are so boring when they're singleplayer. I'd rather play something like Rimworld where you can at least stretch your creative muscles and RP a bit.
>>722303515I knoe in my bonesYou were born wrong
>>722303515The suffering is the pointYou just don't get it
>>722305242Basically are you interested in horror/mystery stuff and management sims?"You see a song in front of you. It's approaching, becoming more colorful by the second."- Fragment of the Universe's EntryThere's a radio tuned to a station playing what sounds like a war, and if anyone listens to it too long they go insane.There's a gunman who made a deal with the devil you can negotiate with to help you, but it can also backfire.If those kind of things intrigue you enough that you want to know the rest of the story, then it might be worth checking out for that (each abnormality is basically it's own horror short story you reveal piece by piece).Do you like character creation in RPGs? It's basic but you can customize a whole crew of characters with different appearances and equipment and such.Do you like management sims where you have to do 10 things at once and remember that one abnormality will eat any character that's too high level and another will kill any character that goes to it twice in a row and etc, etc, etc, but if you master it then it all works like a machine? If you like any of those things it might be interesting enough for you. If not then it probably won't be because it's a very niche and sometimes very frustrating game.
>>722305878>difficult in any fucking manorWhat did he mean by this.
>>722303821Well, you get more out of Ruina's narrative specifically if you have the willpower to bull through the massively tedious bullshit that is 100% dissolutionYou, as the player, specifically suffering and struggling to reach the true ending, and not having any fun doing it, is actually written into the sequel
I dont like lobcorp cause I'm not into facility management sims, though I still read up on it because I really like the setting. I love the 2nd one, just did yesod floor's realization earlier.I will now be leaving before I get spoiled.
>>722306054did you at least try lob corp?Roland is A's gay lover
>>722306140Roland is for Angela only
>>722305878>manorYeah it's a pain in the ass to play in wuthering heights since my brother keeps unplugging the computer while I'm playing
fuck off namenigger
Since it does seem like there are some anons in the thread who know the whole series, what is actually going on in the setting? It'd be great to have a story summary.
>>722306884nigger that's paragraphs you're asking anons to write. Ask chatgpt to summarize for you if you're too lazy to read wiki articles
>>722307048Even the wiki doesn't seem to have like a full story spoilers page or anything.
Is there a correct way to cheat that doesnt spoil the entire experience if Im not enjoying its dull loop?
>>722307169no , sorry. the suffering is necessary, you're better of just not playing instead of cheating. could be you're playing the game wrong, have you been completing missions/meltdowns asap?
>>722307169the one that lets you see how much your chuds have levelled up so you know when to stop grinding them
>>722307169This anon mentioned a speed mod: >>722303850
>>722306884We don't know. We still have no clue what the Head is, or why it is the way it is.We do know that the setting is post-post-apocalypse, and that human collective consciousness manifests in physical reality and always has.That's about it as far as concrete facts of the setting go. It's so high sci-fi that Clarke's Law kicks in.
>>722307169Ehhh. There are mods to fix some irritating bugs and make the memory leak less lethal. I'd say those are fine.But the suffering is intentional, the true ending is supposed to be horrible to achieve
>>722304813I love abusing this dude in daily luxcavation.
>>722305923nigzlima wtf are you doing outside of jjk threads, go back
>>722303515Unironic kino filter. Never played a game that felt this bad yet good at the same time that made me feel average until I started the boss stages and the final 5 levels then it turned into absolute kino
>>722303850Oh yeah I played using cheat engine back when it wasn't maybe a virus and played at 2-4x on top of the in game speed up
>>722308587The way the bosses are made is really good. Perfect intertwining of narrative and gameplay.
>>722303515Sounds like you got filteredgitgud faggot
>>722303515It frustrates me to no end how much Lobotomy Corporation is shit on despite being the best game in the series. It especially frustrates me when I see so called project moon moon fans telling everyone not to play it.
low prudence thread
>>722303515Playing it through blind knowing literally nothing about it is when of my favorite experiences I have ever had playing a video game
>>722303515>>722303638>>722303661these, the suffering is core to the experience, youtube watchers need not reply, I won't be reading what you have to say anyways.
>>722303661OPEN THE CURTAIN
>>722312314
>>722303515I'd never call it shit, and I'd never recommend it to anyone either. I played up to like day 40 doing the suppressions along the way and the memory leak eventually filtered my ancient 8gb shitbox I was running on back in 2022, literally couldn't finish days fast enough to not have my system crash. Ended up reading the cliffnotes and skipping to ruina, much better game, then limbus is just worse ruina. I keep telling myself I'll go back and start over and finish it for real someday now that hardware isn't an issue, but I never do.
>>722303515Part of the problem with LobCo is you have to play really, really risky especially at the beginning so you can figure out what can be done
>>722303515Lobotomy is one of a kindAnything before day 21 is the tutorialIf the character suffers, then so must you>>722307169Retarded nigger
>>722303515It's for autists
>>722303515This game is without question one of the most frustrating I have ever played, but I wouldn't say it's bad.It took me three attempts to fully understand the basics because the tutorial is utter shit. What kept me coming back was how unclear any uploaded videos of the ending were, and how interesting of a premise the game has, so I decided to keep pushing.I think I had reached the black and white sections of the facility before deciding slamming my dick in the car door wasn't worth it, and I would figure out a way to input console commands.Actual spoilers here-----------------------Turns out that your employees dying and you resetting the days/weeks isn't just a mechanic to help you recover from mistakes, but it's a part of the narrative. Every color section of the facility has a different job, and black and white's have to do with the gear and employees you've lost along a playthrough.The endings, when you have the context are neat, but if you don't know what to do going in, the game says "Oh you didn't meet the requirements, restart the game, but not a new save, fucker" and boots you to the menu. Maybe it's just me, but revealing to the player that they're playing a rouge-like 40+ hours in isn't a great choice. I really like the themes, story, world, and monsters in this game, but the additional learning curve fucking SUCKS. I'm glad I did what I did, because I liked what the game told me it was, not what it really is, so I didn't mind cheating to experience the part I wanted.
>>722314150I thought about cheating my way to victory just to experience the story. I tried it for about 5 hours and it just didn't click.
The only thing that is frustrating about this games are clerks. FUCK clerks.
>>722314412
>>722314309To fully *get* the story, you at least need to understand the base gameplay. I adivse at least unlocking the red and blue rooms before beginning to cheat.5 hours sounds about right. I think that was when I did my 2nd restart with everything having clicked. Honestly, this game is 2nd console gen levels of not teaching players how the fucking game works.
>lobcorp threadUnfathomably based
>>722314612shut the fuck up retard, you could never possibly *get* the story the game if you cheat
>>722314667Go ahead and use that rope in your closet. You will not be missed.
>>722314667Noooo you have to piss and shit and endure the terrible gameplay. Die again and again because narratively that's what is suppose to happen. You're full of shit.
The worst crime the game commits is not letting me clean the place up by calling the others in. Every single character is a useless gook bug and they expect me to give a flying fuck what happens?
>>722303515LC's an exercise in pain and patience. I enjoyed the plot though.
>>722303515If you can't get it, you will not get it. But many people still loved it
I actually like the gameplay.
>>722314309pathetic shitstain you're not even human
It's really fun for some people. Not everyone. If you don't like it, then just skip it. I'm of the opinion that the gameplay is way better than the story, but there are people that suffer through it for the story despite not liking the gameplay. The sequel is something completely different gameplay-wise so you could probably just skip to that, honestly. The story's not good enough to justify suffering through the first game if you truly hate it.
>>722305048Only "fuck up on purpose" is when you need to breach abno for mission or loot And it's beneficial to you, because fighting abnos for your terms will prepare you better when you forced to it plus it will prepare you to deal with other enemies
>>722307169Infinite reroll for abnos, this is really imporant if you can't get specific abno or want full codex. Justice bonus with all EGO weapons - some people consider it to be fix not cheat Speed mod if typical day is to slow for you, don't know how it handle Hokma so maybe disable it for that moment EGO gift better change, unless you really abuse it and get all best gifts for all nuggets
>>722303515I miss tall Myo
I got spoiled pretty hard on the gameplay before playing it myself.How is it blind?
>>722303515It's ass but being ass is part of the appeal. It really helps build the ruthless setting and enhances storytelling.Gameplay itself is bad though.
>>722303515I enjoyed my time with it overall, but I won't pretend that the path to the true ending didn't frustrate me frequently.Library of Ruina has a superior structure and gameplay.Shame that Project Moon only ever created Lob and LoR, I want to experience more of this setting.
>>722307169Mods that speed up the game itself.As in turns [1x => 1.5x => 2x] to [1x => 5x =>10x].Everything else is unnecessary.
I loved Ruina, it's a shame they turned the franchise into gacha slop
>>722321478Its a tragedy.Like, going away from a year and coming back to find out that your best friend became a degenerate crack fiend.
>>722321478I hated Ruina but was excited for that dungeon crawler they promised.
>>722319613But Myo isn't tall
>>722320792Not hard if you know how to read
I think LoboCorp KICKS ASS i give it a 10/10
>>722321478i fucking hate that its a generic ass deckbuilder/cardgame instead of anything interesting like lobcorpalso why should i care one bit about angela after the shit she pulled in the endinggacha slop was just the nail in the coffin
I think LoboCorp SUCKS ASS i give it a0/10
We are never going to recover from Limbus are we? It's over...
limbus is the best thing to have happened to project moon, seethe and cope and die shitting yourself
>>722322672>>722322946I'm frightened and confusedWho to believe, who to believe...
>>722303515It's hard but some abnormalities are way nicer than the others. At the start you probably just want to unlock and research as many abnormalities as possible before cherry pick them for the final run.Ego gift stats can stack real high so it might be worth it to stay and work a little bit more before extracting.Suppressions give perma bonuses so do those asap.And don't pick train unless you want to bash your head against the wall later on.
Its pretty good with mods. Really wish they had a steam workshop so it could be more visible for others.
I loev Laetitia
>>722322912Ruina just made me hate Angela even more.
>>722303515I got to day 25 or so and had to put it down because I'm terrible at management games and I felt like I was gonna have a heart attack if I kept playing. I'm weak sauce, I know. But it was really fun up until that point.
>>722305028>he has melting loveManager, you should consider using the memory repository.
>|| ||Hmm
>||I'm gonna vote against her just for that, go back to whatever rancid hole you crawled out of and leave us be
>>722324275I did the same on my first playthrough after the first bosses i thinkits much easier if you remember that your first/second/maybe third run is probably gonna be reset anyway and each consequent runs gets much easier as information/upgrades/gear is kept on restart
>queen of reddit>||>/lcg/Three strikes you are out
>>722303515It's a pure ludonarrative kino mixed with moderately deep cut religion and literature references and plot points It's also a Korean game with all the faults it implies so it's not for everyone
POV: you just reached Day 21 on your first PTWhat do you do?Thats Blue Star, Censored and Nothing There
>>722324675Have a (You) for this succesful bait sir
>>722324991Right easily.
>>722324991BS and NT if you have high enough stats are easy to manage and don't breach. CENSORED is harder to manage and can cause chain panic reaction during breachPick CENSORED
>>722303515I actually enjoyed the stat grinding and tackling all the gimmicks. My only problem with it are the crashes, when you take into account that some stages take an hour to complete
Is Limbus's story good? I haven't touched it since it's a gacha.
>>722325276No.
>>722325118would probably have been a better ideai already beat the game at this point, tis an old screenshot
>>722325276It is but people who who hate it because of gacha are biased against it and will not agree
>>722325276So far yeah, it fluctuates a little by the chapter but generally they're all interesting interpretations of the novels and the cast is fun with great chemistry in the intermissions.
>>722325342Cantos 2, 5 and 7 prevent it from being considered good.
>>722325415You just hate female Sinners
>>722325276Depends on how much you like filler as there's a lot of it to justify how long it takes for the story to complete. Personally i like it far more than ruina's, but who knows. Maybe the main plot will shit the bed later and i'll hate it.
>>722325471I like Outis.
New Faust preview came outWhat did you think about it
>>722325324NT that early, especially on first run almost run ender, you can only hope you get lucky and avoid working on it until you get better stats and gear
>>722325553Just make new thread for it But it's nice that director stopped neglecting Shi
Despite the game suffering from crashes at specific moments and the whole learning experience that may or not be the fruits of your actions, I think it's good. I still like it way more than the sequel, but at that point it's just differences in gameplay and overall structure, so it's up to you to decide what their ranking is. A shame that they'll never fix the spaghetti code.
>>722325276Sometimes is nice, sometimes is cringe
>>722325342>people who are biased against dogshit will think dogshit is badvery insightful, anon
>>722325553I like the design, it looks appropriate for the asian branch Shi but making her weapon a big bow that only seems to factor into one attack after what looks like a non-clashing block seems pretty lame.
>>722325276Literally the only reason to play that "game"
>>722325276It's pretty okay, it's not a guaranteed masterpiece but there's some good stuff to look forward to.
>>722322912>generic ass cardgamename a single card game that has mechanics remotely similar to it.please.the mechanics were sublime once you got far enough for them to really click.
>>722325276It is but people are incapable of accepting that since it's a gacha or are just shitposters , and does way more to expand the story of The City. The Sinners are good characters and the expansion of the world is completely fine which is amazing since some people can't follow the easiest fucking PM story they've made and still don't understand. Even with Duds like Canto 2 are somwhat and it's very clear now that it's still a slow process for some Sinners then others
>>722306000>You, as the player, specifically suffering and struggling to reach the true ending, and not having any fun doing itNow where have I seen this before?
>>722303515It's fun once you wrap your head around the abnos, have collected all the decent EGO and have a facility of only the reasonably manageable abnos. It's horrible at first having to trial and error your way through potentially some of the worst abnos while also being undergeared to handle it. I got melting love and QoH in my first facility early on with shitty gear and it was hell just trying to get through a day. Unfortunately the game also runs like total garbage.
Pro tip: read the manual, it answers nearly everything
>>722325276I find the additional worldbuilding from visiting different districts interesting (honestly the world dragged me in more than the characters since lobcorp), but gacha game pacing and it's seasonal format is fundamentally garbage for storytelling and I think it hurts more than it helps
What do we think of wonderlab?
>>722327956Is it even still canon with the author being a gigafaggot?
>>722324991They're all easy to contain.However my boy Nothing There is my honorary vice-manager, designated Gebura-bonker and employee of the month for every month.Call it nepotism, but I choose NT.
>>722327986>Is it canonNo out of all the reading material PM put out this is not canon to the main universe after the artist had a melty
>>722325118Censored has trash gear.Absolutely ridiculous that an Alpha lacks an EGO outfit.Also le maymay dildo pole is mediocre at best.
>>722325276There's no such thing as Limbus.Never mention this again.
>>722328910good
>>722303515A kino game with no contemporaries to compare it to.Project Moon shit the bed with Ruina and never recovered.
>>722303515Keep playing
>>722329025Ruina is based though.Kino gameplay, artwork, and narrative.What's not to like?
>>722329163I liked LC's fucked up gameplay and find Ruina unfun to play. Limbus is more of the same.
>>722326323The story of this game is mediocre at best. It peaked with Kromer, Heathcliff's Canto and the first encounter with Ricardo. It had memorable moments, but being a gacha where a season lasts 6 months, it takes too much for individual sinners to grow as characters.
>>722329264>and find Ruina unfun to play.What in particular don't you like about it?
>>722303515I hate that it calls itself a management sim and yet the micro is so fucking rudimentary it's baffling, like if a game called itself an RTS but the only order you could give to your units is "move from building to building".
>>722329317Not him but I had trouble wrapping my head around all the number crunching to win fights. I got tired of just "fuck it, I'm going in". Card battlers like that aren't really for me though.
>>722329317I suppose the card mechanics just don't mesh that well with me. Playing with new cards is nice but not particularly enjoyable after find the few of value. Going from the messy management sim to that took a lot of engagement out of the experience. I finished it but only for the narrative.
>>7223279565/10Road home is cute, i want to sex her
>>722329163i don't like ruina because they keep trying to shove angela and roland stories into my throat i loathe them so much
>>722329317Kinda just boring to play comparatively.
>>722329795I understand loathing Angela, but what's wrong with Roland?
>>722303592>perfectionistIsn't this game perfect for you then?You literally have to collect every ego and every meltdown, only so you can start the perfect God run in which you know everything there is to know.
>>722303515It's one of those games that's more an "experience" than a good game. I didn't even finish it I watched the ending on youtube
Guys please finish LobCorp, you are making sweet little Angela cry...
>>722326323>Even with Duds like Canto 2 are somwhat and it's very clear now that it's still a slow process for some Sinners then othersCanto 2 and Canto 1 are prototypes, even Canto 3 is not what Canto should be. It's clearly that Rodion story arc is not over and she should have something for her later. Not sure if they doing same with Gregor (but they should)
>>722330459I don't know if I can bring myself to do it again. It was 100% not fun for me. I already looked up all the spoilers and videos since I couldn't cope with the gameplay
>>722330459It's insane just how much better lob corp would be if it had a normal save system instead of that abomination of a softlock mechanic
>>722330459fix your shit game retard, or give me saves, or something.it's absolutely retarded that you have to go through frustrating gameplay, with no saves, only for the game to crash out of RAM at the end of the day because your shit doesn't get saved until start of next day.FUCK off.
My only actual complaint with LobCo is they never fixed the memory leak. Crashing is always garbage.Peak experience otherwise.
>>722331059I never experienced crashes myself and I some times played long day (but I didn't play many hours in single session)
>>722329353Oi, it's a great genre you are dissing!
>>722330459Project Moon should give lobcorp the same treatment that MICA gave code name bakery girl
>>722331059>beat Day 49 by abusing the memory leak abnormality on my shitty favela-tier toaster back in 2016 or whatever year it was when LC threads on /v/ started to gain traction to basically counteract Hokmaballs speedup>had to wait like half an hour after beating it for it to finally finish the daylvdokino of the highest calibre
>>722330492>Not sure if they doing same with Gregor (but they should)It's clear he's on the same boat as Rodion it's just the fact its following the same growth trends as her
>>722329317NTA but in Ruina you reach some points where you'll spend a lot of time on menus, heavily deconstructing your team formation or whole passive-distribution so you can complete a single reception when your current setup was doing just fine. Certain times rng can just make something take way longer than it needs to be like the enemies suddenly hitting all the good numbers while your character gets the lower ones despite your good cards or buffs or a bad chance of not getting a book, making you farm the reception for the few copies you get so you can try again.I understand some decisions they made but I just came to the conclusion at the second playthrough of both games that card battlers probably aren't my thing.
>>722331591I want the short man to end up with the tallest girl.
>>722330949a checkpoint system based on meltdowns would be amazing>beat tiph meltdown>instead of day you can skip to day 35 or whatever>go through a dozen abno choices all at once>now you dont have to play for 8 hours to get back to where you were
>>722331423>beat LobCorp on a fucking laptop>took 12 hours for the end of 49 day cutscene to play>mfw hitting day 50It was worth every minute
>>722330579>>722330949>>722330982>>722331408
I got frustrated with it a few days in, I like the concept but I think the specific mechanics weren't fun for me.
>>722330459I lost my save with 90% completed Pokedex and only Binah left...
>>722325276It is but not nearly enough to justify playing a g*cha
>>722331776YES!! *chokes your throat* fucking stupid android, FIX YOUR SHIT FIX YOUR SHIT FIX YOUR SHIT
>>722303638I love you too, Earthworm Jim!
>>722330949>>722330982I'm all for saves in video games but lobcorp is just one of those games where save game is not needed
>>722331776Does it matter if I play the game if I've looked up all the spoilers and watched it like a movie? I've already moved on to Ruina and Limbus which has gameplay that I can somewhat stomach.
>>722331990it absolutely is needed when one day can take an hour to manage through the cluster fuck of annoying gameplay ONLY TO LOSE ALL PROGRESS 7 TIMES IN A ROW BECAUSE THE GAME CRASHES DUE TO RAM LEAK AND YOU CAN'T SAVE UNTIL THE NEXT DAY STARTS, SO EVEN IF YOU ENDED THE DAY AND CRASH YOU STILL DIDNT GET TO SAVE.IT EITHER NEEDS TO BE FIXED TO NOT MELT DOWN, OR GIVE ME SAVES SO I DONT GET STUCK ON 1 DAY FOR 7 HOURS EVEN THOUGH I COMPLETED IT 7 TIMES IN A ROWFUCK YOU FDUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCKYOUFFKEKOYUDFOIJCDVFBSAFDIRHGBTJ'aoiuedtrghb a
>>722303638>>722312130I feel like the game lost something when they replaced the botched English translation. Something about trying to decipher the behavior hints on an aleph while getting sassed by moody ESL AIs just seemed right for the setting.
>>722331990That guy is complaining about mid day saves, I'm complaining about memory repo being a dogshit system and I shouldn't need to restart all the way from day 1 just to get a better chance at beating the final week.
>>722312130>The suffering is core to the experienceFor all the talk about ART and VISION these days, people really don't like the whole "suffering for a better tomorrow" angle if you also have to go through itProbably why there's so few of them, honestly despite the ludokino
>>722332656>people really don't like the whole "suffering for a better tomorrow"because you aren't suffering for a better tomorrow, you are suffering for a videogame to achieve an artifical goal.Don't you understand it's delusions, all delusions.And people who don't fall for it are in touch with reality.
Ive been spending like a month or so now making a overhaul/newgame+ style mod for ruina and I want anon's opinions.I found that in ruina it was really annoying how strong mass attacks were. So I decided to make them less OP but I can't decide how to do so in a way that doesn't totally neuter them so Im stuck between:-mass attacks no longer delete pages/die they beator-mass attacks do delete pages/die but the damage is subtracted by the value of what they beat.so if a mass attack rolls 30 and you roll 25 you take 25 less damage.
>>722333043>He can't get immersed in a video game>He's too autistic to experience anything beyond a power fantasySucks to be you man, but that's not my problem
>>722303903Why did chinkslop from korea end up becoming crack rocks for the roblox demographic? UT/DT didn't hit them this hard
>>722318104Go get a job, you'll enjoy the gameplay as well.
>>722333849Its not often that Korean media breaks into the west so stories heavily influenced by Korean culture are fresh and novel. Its like an entirely new flavor.For what UT/DR do uniquely, they arent doing anything extremely new that westerners haven't already got in the cultural zeitgeist, but mixed together in different ways.Roblox is not a good metric of anything though.
>>722330459Jesus this is even more pathetic than the uma musume fandom literally crying and sadposting when an irl horse completely detached from them dies how do you retards end up becoming parasocial to fictional shit
>>722333849because the servers were trendingthat's it
>>722333849its like crack for kids>mature setting, tone and themes (which they can ignore, not understand but makes them seem more mature for liking it)>setting is genuinely unique >everything is rule of cool>shounen elements (present since lobco)>really good pinnacle moments (day 50 cutscenes, roland's monologue, pretty much every limbus canto ending)>very character driven story (so they can ignore who the character is and just use them as puppet to fill with whatever they want)>self actualization -> powerups
>>722303515I dropped because as you say it's just not fun. Try the sequel which I found to be incredible in comparison.
>>722334132>mature settingThere is nothing to be taken seriously in PM games, when I try to understand any lore from PM, Ruina or Limbus it feels like the devs used those manatees from south park to come up with their stuff.
>>722334113It was a joke post though?
>>722334228Rule of cool means asspull until retards clap their hands
>>722334228you say this because your perception of the games has been influenced by years of shitposting.
>>722327956Catt sexo. Don't care about anything else
>>722331423Turns out T-corp's singularity was just Anon's potato computer all along.Kino
>>722327956It had potential but too many factors along the way brought the story down. Could've been a good thing if the artist had a better grasp at the material by actually finishing LobCorp before doing the comic..
>>722303515no it's bad
>>722335708blue archive is dogshit
>>722335708this but ironically, perchance
>>722335708Based and true
>>722303515>"duuuude the game is so good because it's so hard!"soulfags were a mistake, at least you can beat hard NES games in 4 hours with enough trial and error
>>722335708How badly do you get raped if you p + enter in Ruina?
>>722336714You can clear a lot of it if you build a good deck specifically for it, but on your first time through? Pretty badly
>>722335708i really enjoyed limbussy's story but i stopped at chapter 2. the gameplay is just fucking awful and makes me not want to play>just autowin broi heard that stops working in chapter 3+
What the fuck is happening in the catalog
>>722303515Kino of the highest caliber. The problem is that the game has to literally mindbreak you into enjoying it.
>>722336876wdym?
>>722332656It's kino, but you have to be really into the themes and philosophy of it in order to derive satisfaction from something that stops being enjoyable after about 40 hours but requires more like 100 hours to fully achieve.I can hardly blame people for wanting to have fun in their free time instead of dedicating themselves to following Director's artistic vision. There are ten thousand video games out there which have good narratives and are also fun to play, after all.
>>722303515You probably are one of the retards who refused to use memrep for some reason
>>722333043Fucking hylics man I swear to godHave you no sense of willing suspension of disbelief?
>>722336876we love league here
>>722334186Ruina really is an excellent game. I could have played that shit for years if they just kept on doing what they were doing - More cards, more passives, more receptions, more cool boss fights with fantastic soundtracks.But they had to go and make a gacha instead.
>>722303515I feel like this is for the SCP autists out there
post your day 49s
>>722327956Not canonAt least it mostly understood the core concepts of the setting, even if it got bogged down in nonsense. The reveal after Catt ascends the elevator was nicely done.
>>722337276I didn't screenshot mine, but not going to lie. So many of my nuggets died, and I had so little points, that I actually was super fucking close to a 'softlock' because I still needed a nugget for every floor and couldn't hire anyone. Thankfully I barely had enough people
>>722337276I remember I once was tired of trying to kill Binah and decided to go for Qliphoth Meltdowns and I almost did it with almost every abno rampaging and with two nuggets left alive. When I was about 2/3 abno works to be done I saw curtain closing and all my enkephalin got reset by silent cunt.
>>722337276(Yes I did entire third run just for fun)
>>722303515Will Project Moon ever manage to top their magnum opus?
I played it earlier this year and I was surprised it has a reputation as this tough and torturous game. I don't even know if I'd say it was harder than Library of Ruina. The only things about it that I found annoying were some of the Sephirah missions.However the most annoying thing about this series is that after finishing the first two games you're left with gacha if you have any interest in continuing with it.
>>722325324>HP bars on abnosyou didn't finish the game
>>722333308>>722337152I have real life for "character development" and "suffering for a better tomorrow"Videogames are for fun and enjoyment.It takes delusional retards to start farming "achievement" from a video game and get their "muh suffering for a better tomorrow" from a simulacrum that isn't real, never was, and never will be real. All the while real life is rotting away as they waste time chasing the virtual dragon.If somebody plays videogames for fun, they are normal, sane people.If somebody plays videogames for a sense of achievement they don't get in real life, they are stepping into mental illness and need serious help in their life.
>>722340281>Noooo games have to be mindless entertainment for mazed retards! They can't have grander themes I don't like, nooooooImagine being this miserable
>>722340281>I'm a fun-hating faggot that hates all forms of fiction and simply cannot suspend disbelief even for a momentOkay nerd, go read an encyclopedia if you only want to engage in non-fiction.
>>722337276I only have the one of my second run. Had to lower the graphics to stand a chance.
>>722340549>>722340794>videogames are for fun, not for achivement or something grand like "suffering for a better tomorrow". You should do that in real life>OMFG YOU TELLING ME NOT TO HAVE FUN?! ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT YOU ARE MISERABLE?!retards, read what is said instead of coping
>>722340281>while real life is rotting away as they waste time chasing the virtual dragonIsn't life about just wasting your time in enjoyable for you way? Also by your logic doing anything that isn't self-improving in some way is waste of time
>>722340901"Suffering for a greater tomorrow" is the THEME of the GAME retard, I think you're the one that needs to re-read what people are saying
>>722340945>Isn't life about just wasting your time in enjoyable for you way?lets not get into the meaning of life okay> Also by your logic doing anything that isn't self-improving in some way is waste of timeNah, my logic is that it's a waste of time to be delusional.Have fun, or achieve something, but don't delude yourself into thinking you are achieving something playing a videogame or building a better tomorrow playing a intentionally shit game.>>722341115and the game doesn't need to be dogshit for that theme to exist in the game.whats next, you are intentionally pretending to be retarded to convey suffering for better tomorrow theme on 4chan?
>>722340901I'll dumb it down to a food analogy for your obsese brain>i refuse to engage with flavors, I only consooom for nutrients>i hate sour, I hate spicy, I hate salty, I hate bitter, i hate tart, only unflavored carbs for me!!!!!!Now go eat more plain white bread, fatso.
>>722340281You are a flesh automaton animated by neurotransmitters
>>722341216>Goes on a grand tirade about le achievement and fun>It's unironically just more Game Too Hard :( copeWhy is this so common now? Some of us actually enjoy a challenge
>>722305554"I like the way it sucks" perfectly encapsulates the game. I'd make an edit right now if I wasn't already backlogged on multiple others.
>>722341320>can't read or understand the post he is replying tosad>>722341374we all are, but it's not really an issue, certainly not bad enough to dive deep into self delusion to feel better about it>>722341427>copeyes yes, cut off your dick and live life on hard mode, I'm sure all the other tranies are proud of your great achivement.
If you're not gripped by the plot then you're unlikely to want to keep playing. It's one of those games where you're mainly incentivized by the story.Play Ruina instead.
>>722341619>THEY'RE ALL JUST DELUSIONAL! NO-ONE ACTUALLY ENJOYS HARD GAMES, IT'S ALL JUST TO BRAG AND SPITE PEOPLE LIKE MEI've seen a million comments like with Silksong, you're too far behind anon.It's okay to admit that you just don't like something instead of going on a retarded moral crusade
>>722341216>lets not get into the meaning of life okayAs you wish>ah, my logic is that it's a waste of time to be delusional.Have fun, or achieve something, but don't delude yourself into thinking you are achieving something playing a videogame or building a better tomorrow playing a intentionally shit game.I think you are taking things out of context a little bit. Anon you originally replied isn't saying they are achieving something because they are playing with this theme but states that not many games this theme in general or use it like lobcorp does. LobCorp's suffering is enjoyable aspect of it imo but it isn't for everyone so I can understand if some people, like you, just don't want to play or finish it. Also game being dogshit is your opinion, I think it's decent gameplay wise and learning about all the abnormalities and figuring how they are working is great but management portion of the game could be better
>>722339894nigga its borderline unplayable without mods
>>722341954For real. The levels of roundabout narcissism flying around have been bizarre. I'll never understand seeing yourself as a victim in not only innocuous situations, but seeing yourself as one simply for people not validating your thoughts and treating them as gospel. You have people going on full on meltdowns over Silksong, practically writing 10-page manifestos of how the people who enjoy it are worse innately than them in every possible way and failures who don't understand life simply because they like a hard game.
I like SilksongI like Souls gamesI like LobCorpI hate Urina
>>722343014For me? It's System Erasure games
>>722303515Yes, yes I do.
>>722335854I'm not going to say it's great but it is better than most.
>>722343351I refuse to believe that a Genshin or FGO player has ever said this>t. FGO player
>>722343432Only good thing that ever came out of FGO was LB6 and I wouldn't let anyone dare endure the garbage before it.
>>722343432Don't underestimate how retarded FGO fans can be on average.
>>722343502I like Babylonia/Solomon and Olympus as well, but the rest is unironic slop
I beat the hardest level on my first attempt by accident with like 3 dudes left because the first ordeal which I ignored died randomly near the end which gave me enough to win. There's no fucking way I was gonna win that level the "legit" way so I got very very lucky.Anyway if you like Lobotomy Corp and want more I recommend Insaniquarium Deluxe it's technically the same genre and it's on sale for a single buck.
>>722343351BA is okay but it did the "there's some deep shit going on in the background that we will tell you about it later don't worry" for way too long to the point I quit before they got to it.
>>722343736At least make it to Volume F and drop it. It's a completed game at that point anyway.
>>722343638insaniquarium is NOT the same, lobcorp is slow and easy and insaniquarium makes my old man fingies hurt from mashing so much trying to drop a bunch of food and collect a bunch of money and shoot a bunch of lasers
>>722343736When did you quit?Also the main writer for all that "deep shit later" quit a year ago, so now the story pacing is much more bearable
>>722343894>>722343780I quit on rabbits chapter 2 I believe? I didn't get to read the china volume
>>722343953Oh you already made it past the best part. Carry on then.
>>722343351there's 2-3 good games in there and the rest are absolute shit
>>722344038My bad, meant for >>722335708
>>722344038There are no good games in that image, anon.
>>722322912Ruina is good though, Limbus Company is boring gacha trash. I hope they were serious about just using Limbus as a way to make money to make actual good games.
>>722343780>completed game>not much said about mystic nature>nothing about mimesis>nothing said about the rest of decagrammaton prophets>nothing said about the president that we didn't already know>eden treaty is technically still unresolved>no gehenna volumeVolume F was good but also rushed as fuck, Nexon might've really hoped that BA would die in just 2 years
>>722344245The original staff leaving sure didn't help.
>>722342307Every time I see some subhuman chimp on /v/ saying games are unplayable, boring, or bad without adding cheat codes, I'm routinely reminded this board has more frauds per capita than any other website.
>>722344529Counterpoint: /lit/ exists.
I've never seen a single real /lit/fag in any PM thread
>>72230351580 hours and I've never completed it (multiple full resets). It's great. Only recently have I realized memory repository is actually more than just a get out of jail free card. I'll complete it when I have more time. Right now MB Warband is my thing.
>>722344917That's because /lit/fags don't read, while PM fans actually skim through the books.
>>722344529I think the only acceptable mods for lobcorp other than the memory leak fix are the one to make customizing nuggets free so you can kill your friends in the early game when lob points are scarce (seriously why does it cost a point to customize an agent when it's entirely cosmetic?), and after you beat day 50 I think it's ok to use the infinite reroll mod to get the stragglers you're missing to finish your codex without having to replay the entire game just because one guy won't show up
>>722337276Friendly reminder that Birds are not important.
>>722314827>>722314835>two people instantly seethed at thisThe only reason you got so mad at this post is you know deep down that you ruined the game for yourself when you cheated, and didn't get to truly experience it like everyone else itt.
>>722303515>This is the least fun game I have ever played. Good. Keep on playing.
Ruina and Limbus writers are pretty decent. Plot wise maybe it's not that amazing but they're great with making characters. The Sinners in Limbus in particularly have a great dynamic.But man, I miss LobCorp's writing.
>>722303515Filtered. Tourist successfully gatekept.
>>722303515Just use mods that actually make the game better
>>722346097mod in harder abnos ya pussies
>>722349710>Edgy OC anomaliesLol.Lmao.
>>722349710>the final boss abno is talking to a cute girltoo real...
>>722349710>ChasekWhat's the gear look like?
>>722350268There's no gear, just a gift.
>>722350649gaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy
>>722349710what the fuck is a chasek
>>722350871Sound like all these times people used new clasification when doing SCP Foundation entry
>>722350871Hebrew is such an ugly language I can't believe they revived that shit.
I gave up a few days after getting the magical girl that turned into a dragon. From what I remember1. Had to interact with her every once in a while or would melt down2. With max level worker + relevant gear just for her had a 50:50 shot of good result that if failed she had a melt down3. If she ever melted down full wiped every one basically instantlyWith energy requirements meant she needed 2 interactions per day meaning basically needed to win 2+ coin flips per day or just lost instantly + that was a baseline on top of everything else
>>722341954I didn't say you are delusional for enjoying it. One can be divorced from reality and be enjoying it.The issue I raised was being divorced from reality.It's actually rather pitiful you can't grasp that fact even with multiple posts.But then again I shouldn't expect more from a person who copes with delusions.>>722342135>I think you are taking things out of context a little bit. Anon you originally replied isn't saying they are achieving something because they are playing with this theme but states that not many games this theme in general or use it like lobcorp does. But people use it as a defense of the games shortcomings. Literally cope by saying no it's supposed to be bad in ways to make you suffer so you experience the hardship and bla bla bla. Build a better tomorrow.A game exploring this theme is not wrong in an of itself.>LobCorp's suffering is enjoyable aspect of it imo but it isn't for everyone so I can understand if some people,it would be fine if the game was stable.Game shitting itself and wiping progress repeatedly, wiping away 7 hours of progress that you beat and completed, that was annoying. is not fun, it's not "deep comentary", it's not innovative design it's shit programingCalling a shitprograming that runs into RAM leaks as anything other than GARBAGE PROGRAMING, isssssss DELUSIONAL.> like you, just don't want to play or finish it.I played it and dropped it. It's one of 2 games in my life that I dropped. It just hit the threshold of unacceptable garbage that needs more time in the oven before it's released to play.>Also game being dogshit is your opinionIt's a fact.> I think it's decent gameplay wise and learning about all the abnormalities and figuring how they are working is great but management portion of the game could be betterYou are thinking about the game as a concept, the idea of the game. Not the actual execution.The idea is yes, neat. The execution has literal game breaking bugs.
>>722351215So you don't know how to make her happy?
>>722350871it can be written differently like chashok or have different meaning but here it means darkness
>>722351215she only has her melty when a new meltdown level is reached, so the secret is to send someone to work on her while she's normal and has a higher success rate, and then once you've gotten 16 good works, you can send someone to work on a different abno and trigger the meltdown. but since you've already gotten 16 good works, you pass the check and she instantly gets over her anger and goes back to normal
>>722303515I ragequit when I found out there's a bug where your dead employees can lose all their equipment under certain circumstances during a retry and it happened to me twice.
>>722351215Queen of Hatred is a hardcore noob filterShe's an Aleph disguised as a Waw unless you are progressed enough in the game to have unlocked the thing which keeps her under control. If you don't have it, you're basically just fucked.
>>722351215Queen of Hate.>With max level worker + relevant gear just for her had a 50:50 shot of good result that if failed she had a melt downBs.An agent which actually has full upgrades basically has a 100% chance of a good result with her, even when she's in her distressed state.Her gimmick isn't even hard, just vaporize 3 clerks prior to triggering the Q-meltdown and you never even need to work on her.If you insist on not making the sacrifice, just work on her a couple times after each Q-meltdown concludes.
>>722351415Game has it's shortcoming and agree that people are coping by saying it by design and it could be better, for example there are things that weren't included in the game like egg mechanic that was revealed in Limbus where every abnormality turns into an egg after suppressing and there is that egg sprite for Nothing There which could lead to assumption that there was an idea for a mechanic that never was implemented. The RAM leaks are shit and it saddens me it still haven't been and never will repaired but in this case I meant stuff like restarting the game because it adds to story(Angela has to suffer through every loop we go through) and it feels more rewarding to finally finish looping and finishing "the plan" whatever it was supposed to mean back then before Ruina.>It's a fact.You sound like a faggot who thinks his opinion is right and won't accept any otherEh, idea could be better and execution is alright, I haven't experienced any game breaking bugs luckily so the only thing I know about are memory leaks.
>>722351215>With energy requirements meant she needed 2 interactions per day meaning basically needed to win 2+ coin flips per day or just lost instantly + that was a baseline on top of everything elseSound like you still just end day after reaching required energy instead doing more work. This aproach will make your job only harder over time
If you were in charge of Lobotomy Corporation 2 or a spiritual sequel game of the "SCP Monster Management genre" what would you like to add and do to fix the experience to have actually fun with the game?
>>722354425RTS keybindings, multi-selection, better UI, even more cancer abnos
>>722314587NO MORE DEAD CLERKS
>>722354848
>>722354425Have QA for tools so you dont have tools like heart of aspiration which has no downsides to shit like yang which you'll never get to use because yin will breach 30 seconds later
>>722351776im nearly certain you're talking about memrepo'ing after death, reminds me of that guy wallowing in complete despair after basically deleting his save by doing that with the button
>>722303515Yes anon, you were lied to. Everyone who praised this game were just trying to play a prank on you
