Sometimes, simple is better
>when the design is so simple that the rathwaddle has no tell and can be done point blankfun
>>722306246OG MHs are so much better than the modern ones
The secret of making the game difficult but fun is not to speed up monsters and bloat their HP but to slow down hunters, reduce weapon movesets and decrease the amount of skills a hunter can use.
>>722306246Nobody play gen2 mh unc
Dogshit gameplay and phenomenal game design doesnt actually make a game good. Im never going back to 2nd Gen. Im also never going back to Tri, Gen U or likely even 4. There needs to be a balance and while i enjoyed them at the time im not fucking doing another egg delivery or Rath Flight RNG quest for the rest of my life if i can help it.If Wilds was just a Freedom Unite remake i wouldve been happy
>>722309675>Dogshit gameplay and phenomenal game design doesnt actually make a game goodBut enough aboutWorldRiseMilds
>>722309675>not going back to second gen>lists Freedom Unite as a most desiredThat is very literally Dos but for PSP!
>>722310075God I hate Raths so much it's unreal>>7223096754th gen is the sweet spot IMO. Sure some stuff can still be added (like GL fronthop) but overall it's already fine at that point
>>722310075Kino
>>722310075wtf, he can do attacks on land
>>722310021I want FU but Wilds. Literally just want to walk out of Pokke into the mountains and get my shit kicked in by a blangonga. What i hate about Wilds is the game design, but if they could rip it from FU and tame the gameplay so that it doesnt revolve round Super Trick Activation Sharp Eye Wound Predator horsesbit id be comfortable. A quick note ripped from a board about your quest and your off was the perfect stremlining of MH
>>722309924Yeah exactly, adding a bunch of horseshit to MH never made it better, those games would have been good without all of it, if only criticised for not "ebolb de formuala"
>>722306246Okay, but not THAT simple. Maybe some polish but still keeping the core elements.
>>722312138Nah, I need those restricted zones with loading time to save me when I flee.And an egg delivery quest without this would be hell mode
I still can't believe how thoroughly they fucking massacred everything I used to love about these gamesWhere are the modders at? I can only hope at some point somebody tries making a decomp of some the old games and we get an unofficial pc port that people can more easily add shit to, that's wishful thinking though
5th gen was objectively a downgrade of many important things and may have really been net negative for the series overall. But the Rath redesigns were not one of them. God I want to fall asleep staring into that thing's eyes.
>>722310075Snoy monhun was so shit
>>722313752
I like each of them individually for their own rights.But I would never go back to playing FU at this point. There is such a thing as too many retarded design choices clampered together, and even when World is too simplified in ways I enjoyed it not to be (such as removing any need for planning weapons and supplies, which I liked, or adding the HEY LISTEN bugs), it's simply much better in too many QoL design choices and the general visuals to ever consider regressing.Even Sunbreak felt like garbage by comparison.I elect to ignore Wilds exists. That's just embarrassing.
Yeah Capcom completely botched the series bloating it up with anime shenanigans that makes monsters feel more like victims to the Hunter rather than enemies. The limited character options is what made the games engaging.
>>722314335>hides name>doesn't hide the names in gameOreo... i...
>>722314918Oh so that's why people do those half-assed, fucked up crops
>>722308870Just fucking play lance if you want the game to be boring.
Keeping it simple.
>>722310075The games were so much better when half a monsters moveset was applying hitboxes to random movements
>>722315343m'fraid lance is bing bing now
Why does monster hunter attract as many LARPfags as milsim shooters?
>>722312030*she
>>722310075In my opinion, LS in old school monhun is probably the worst beginner trap compared to other weapons. low damage, slow animation, shitty hitbox, shitty gimmick, shitty everything. Even in g rank where it becomes decent it still gets dramatically outclassed by meme weapons like GS, i don't know why anyone would want to main it aside from muh cool anime sword
Just hit it until it dies.
>>722306246riiiiight
>>722316393
>>722308870>the secret to making the game better is to raise the skill floor and lower the skill ceiling so I don’t have to feel bad about being bad as long as I can beat the monster
>>722315439>>722316393That thing makes me glad to have dropped Wilds. There is no way in hell I will ever bother with mmo collab crap again after World.
>>722317423It's not a bad hunt on its own. Well, it's not a great one either, the kind of diversion from regular MH hunts which is nice to have once in a while. What ruins it is - other people. Not surprising, for an MMORPG collab content.
>>722317423It's not even as hard as behemoth and is actually fun.Savage however is not fun.But at least you can do both with support hunters.
>>722317553>>722317732>it's actually decent this time dudeNot falling for it.
>>722308870the only fact here is that you're a dumb nigger
>>722317423Skill issue. Savage Omega is x10 times easier than extremoth ever was. Its moves are way more readable, it has way more openings and he doesn’t nuke you every 5 min.
>>722317852They made support hunters good enough that you can clear it without needing people to fuck it up.They even introduced a hunting horn support hunter that actually does shit.
>>722318091What they don't do is damage. Going solo (with support hunters) makes the Nerscylla DPS race unreasonably hard. Well, at least they don't use up carts, so it's a big upgrade over randoms already.
>>722317553>What ruins it is - other people.Imagine being so desperate for validation that you NEED to see a victory screen in order to have fun.
>>722318216Don't need to imagine that. I'm not having losing and not accomplishing my objective.Maybe you do, if you're a masochist.
>>722306246>Rotate about 7 degrees to the left>*Tic damages you and you trip*>Rathalos: Haha...>*Does his faggot roar*>*Freezes you in place for 5 seconds*>Rathalos: nothing...>*Flips into the air*>*Wind pressures you, cant move*>Rathalos: personnel...>*Tail whips you*>*Poisons you*>Rathalos: kid.>*Cart*Yeah, totally better
>>722318080The couple of things that makes savage rng for me is not getting enmity on the nerscylla fast enough or getting caught out in the last phase.But at least I could beat it with support hunters, can't say that for extremoth.>>722318145True but I've been getting more consistant with Nerscylla recently by trapping it in a corner with a cactuar and grabbing the malboros towards me. I think I got around a 70% success rate now.>>722318216I don't think anyone would care so much about savage if there wasn't actual gear behind it this time.Still better than just layered from extremoth but still.
>>722318310I mean the bread and butter of Rathalos was roar into flying fireball that would always hit you unless you had earplugs.And the instant charge but virtually everything had that back then.
>>722318310>Rotate about 7 degrees to the left>*Tic damages you and you trip*Apex Diablos in 4U could kill you with that shit.
>>722306246Sorry boomer but monster hunter was never good except for world, its the only real "monster hunter" game
I'm playing Dos and I enjoy it
Mh peaked with gu
>>722318661Monhun peaked with Nintendo in general
>>722308870/thread
There are some good things to say about Risebreak, not many, but there are.No unskippable cutscenes, the end-game monsters are legitimate challenges (if a little on the easier side), introduction of helper hunters, comfy as fuck base game village and expansion village, a decent end-game grind, and this adorable little bundle of joy
>>722318950There are many good things to say about Risebreak
>>722318145Nersylla is a lot easier if you pull the Marlboros into him and save the 3rd spell cast of Pictomancer to blast him
>>722318661We will never have anything as good as this again.
>>722319032Yeah, I guess. Actually using all the MMORPG gimmicks does seem to be beneficial in this fight, if not outright making it easier than trying to just hit it until it dies.100% of randoms failed due to running out of carts, not a single time out. Maybe there's time to spare to just play defensively, run around, avoiding the telegraphs, and just using pictomancy.
>>722313752bingtroonies are fake fans
>>722309675Just like hunts, eggs were about preparation. Of course you could wing them or you could bring potions for infinite stamina, paintball big monster(s), check their area routes and time out to not bother with them. I don't remember whether it was in MH1, but already in MHG there was food? skill that allowed you to drop down from high ledges with eggs. Made forest delivery piss easy. Outside of event ones, you would have usually enough time to hunt big monster(s) if you couldnt handle dodging them.Outside of gathering animations and some wait times (lao), I am fine with 2nd gen.
>>722309675Holy retard
Tri is still worst monhun
>>722306246Ok MHanonsWhat are the good MHs pre-World?I have a Vita(PSP) and 3DS
>>722319476>good MHs pre-WorldP3rd4UThat's it.
>>7223194764u if you're a new player if not then 3u then gu
>>722319505FU is also based but the worst of the three among your objectively great picks
>>7223195054u is Dogshit
>>722319476Mh4u hands down.
>>722319476>I have a Vita(PSP) and 3DSYou can play all pre-World games on a laptop. With online play
>>722318950>introduction of helper huntersThat's from Frontier
Only play FU once you are done with the later games but still need more and you think you're a hardass MH vet who isn't afraid of some bullshit
>>722319476FU is sort of where it all began because I don't think the PS2 games were even released in the west, but the game is probably going to feel painfully outdated.Portable 3rd I played relatively late and I think it holds up.4th gen I haven't played because they were all held hostage on nintendo and I didn't have it.
>>722319476Play Freedom Unite first. It is the one that will give you the most satisfaction as well as a good challenge, zero hand holding and it has an insane amount of content.It is the perfect mix between OG monster hunter and the classic monster hunter before WorldAfter that play the English patch of Portable 3rdAnd after that play 3 Ultimate (I think it's on 3DS) and after that play 4U (but play it on the switch if you can, it's best experienced there imo)
>>722319451Nah, there's just something about Tri that gives it a lot of charm despite being very barebones. I actually prefer it over 3U in many aspects. It just manages to pull me back more than any title beside FU, maybe.
>>722319942>I actually prefer it over 3U in many aspects.That's very interesting, why?
>>722319928>4U>SwitchQue?
>>722319476Tri
>>722308870>slow down hunters, reduce weapon movesets and decrease the amount of skills a hunter can use.nigger you just described Dark Souls 2 which is the biggest sequel flop/disappointment anyone has ever seen. You can speed up monsters, they were reasonably fast in 3U, but they have to match ur pace and tools. The issue with modern MH is that the monsters are not monsters, but overgrown training dummys that do jackshit due to the toolkit bloat. It was simpler when you just had your weapons. With some status effect sets that were only useful for teamplay.
>>722320307Modern monsters are a shitload faster because animations are smoother and they don’t do the>turn>turn>ChargeShit. People pretend the old games are “giga hardcore mang” because they emulated them 7 years after they came out and tried to do the online missions solo which just isn’t how the game is designed
>>722319476The best MH games are on 3DS, earlier games are unfun and jank
>>722320083Must be thinking of GU
>>722319810>implying risebingers even know that other MH exist
>>722320412Nigger, Espinas is in Sunbreak, at least understand what you are saying instead of just shitposting.
>>722308870Go play a Gen 2 game then
>>722319476P2G/FUP3rd4UXX
>>7223194764U is the best. People suck off GU but its kind of ass, honestly. 3U is good. Portable 3rd is okay but is just high rank so...FU is fun, but obviously lacks a lot of basic QoL stuff.
>>722319476Tri is the only real predecessor to world.
>>722315658Isn't that Azure Rathalos?
I just finished the 3U village quests and honestly hated every minute of every underwater fight. It literally adds nothing but gives an advantage to the monster just to make it more annoying to fight. I don't know why people want it back so much.
>>722310075Based. Modern MH nephews could never beat the old games.
>>722322852Now imagine playing it not on PC via an emulator, but on OG 3DS tiny screen with only a single excuse for an analog stick.
Why is Wilds so ass?
>>722308870I've been arguing about this for 7 years but all the morloids newfag keep screeching "LUDITE"
>>722308870Or just give the monsters better AI.
>>722323059It's made to capture an audience that doesn't like mh.Capcom did promise their shareholders that they'll grow the company 10% every year.
>>722306246I think it's time we realize that World is the only good game in the franchise
>>722322852I like it. It's not like all monsters have underwater phases.The main problem is just the control was still ass. The dodging direction of GL underwater keeps confusing me>It literally adds nothingIt expanded the hunting/locale area and makes targeting parts like Plesioth's fin much easier, at least for me. It's cooler than mounting and less "gimmicky" than slinger and wirebugs IMO
>>722318661>Postives about MHGU: it has nearly every monster in the series>Negatives about MHGU: it has nearly every monster in the series
>>722321996What does 4U have over GU?
>>722320307>nigger you just described Dark Souls 2 which is the biggest sequel flop/disappointment anyone has ever seen.
>>722314335What in this webm am I supposed to be actively hating again?
>>722323390Classic MH gameplay.
I love 4U and GU so much bros.Good morning to my fellow SnS players.Regular morning to everyone else.
>>722323390Monsters having glass ankles and falling on the ground all the time.
>>722320307Dark Souls 2 was good, gamers just weren't smart enough to appreciate it.
>>722323354>create all these cool weapon and armor designs>never use them again despite rise having diet deviants, who lack unique gear even in MR
>>722323390Nothing, I fucking hate how they use the 4U maps, AKA the worst in the series, for most HR/G rank hunts.
>>722318661>Town in the fuckoff tall pinnacle What do they eat?
>>722323957deviants never coming back after gu has to be some of the biggest wasted potential in the seriesthe fact that rise apexes were diet deviants as you said is even more insult to injury
>>722306246I was playing Wilds with my friends, we were hunting a Rathian and then another Rathian appeared, all my friends thought that it was a Rathalos because the game was so fucking muddy that you couldn't tell them apart, it wasn't until the end of the fight that I noticed it because I watched he minimap
>>722323989They say this but never talk about how FU makes you play the 1st gen maps after low rank, the actual worst most putrid map design in the series
>>722323998potatoes and chicken
Capcom needs to stop being such a fag and release the old games on pc.
>>722324217At least they're flat.
>>722315817cool anime sword is WHY you want to main it, also to trip everyone lol
>>722308870>Frognigger is actually correctGrim times indeed
>>722324217I will take 1st gen maps over some of world's slopes.
>>722324217>the actual worst most putrid map design in the seriesWhy did you start talking about MH4U mid sentence?
>>722324372i need a 60 fps update for GU at least like why the fuck cant we get that with the switch 2 MINIMUM
>>722324926man the switch 1 could run GU at 60 fpsthe devs just didn't give a shit
>Charge Blade and Switchaxe are not in the game (in game story reasons).>Slinger and Boomerang weapons, both ranged.>Blademaster and Gunner armors are back.>Insect glaive can use both>Gunlance ditch the shield, can now aim the thrust and bangs.>Greatswords only has ONE charged slash, the rest are fast sweeps. It now has a emergency parry that use your charge to keep you safe. More beginner friendly without gutting its timing based gameplay. It also has a secret sword surf move.>SnS become the Arm and Shield, the arm can be slash, blunt or pierce. You can now charge a deflect that either can throwback fireballs or do a super bash. >Boomerang is abiut spinning. You can run with it, and the goal is to gain momemtum, make the hunter spin and throw the boomerang, then catch the boomerang and throw it again. Can be blunt or sharp.>Slinger is about using ressource found in the terrain to create custom ammos.>No cats, no chocobo. You now have a monkey and a dog. The monkey is a offensive partner while the dog is purely utility like tracking, healing or transporting.>Story is about a Monsters starting to do coordinated attacks at the behest of a ape-like monster that can use weapons. Turns out there was a ape like, homo erectus looking elder dragon behind himHow is my MH?
>>722325070Actual garbage, holy shit never pitch your ideas here ever again.
>>722324968setting it to run at 60 on ryujinx crashes when loading the FMV cutscenes so I assume they'd have to fix that but yeah theres like 0 excuse for the game to not be running at 60
>>722324372If they ported the old games to PC I wouldn't ever need a new MH. I would love an actual port of 3U and 4U with an actual online community.
>>722320307Ds2 was a mobility increaseit added more precise roll directions during lock onit added running during lock onlife gems let you heal while moving and faster than estus
>>722325070>Blademaster and Gunner armors are back.is the only sane thing you wrote
They should officially free 4U from 3DS. While at it, port it together with GU to pc.
Wilds has the best looking armors in the series, this cannot be denied.
>>722317138>This game is NOT FAST ENOUUUGH AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>722325152Uh I don't remember that at all and I've played more than 1k hours of gu ryujinx since late 2020. Which 60fps patch are you using?
>>722325782I don't remember it was like last year and I had to reinstall windows since then so I don't have the save I was playing or the patch. I just know when I got to the village fated four cutscenes the game just crashed every time after the cutscenes ended.
>>722320307Dark Souls 2 is the best in the series though.
>>722320307You don't know shit about ds2. It has super fast infinite stamina enemies with weird hitboxes that can stunlock you.It also has the wonkiest, loosest combat in the series.
>>722325905When ryujinx got stable enough to run GU with multiplayer I made a 60fps patch with cheat engine and the way I found the memory address was kind of lucky find. Basically the game sets the framerate to 60 when playing the intro cutscenes when the game boots up and then drops it to 30 afterward and it's just a matter of scanning the value going from 30 to 60 a few times.I even played with 120 for a long time and besides volvidon AI speed fucking up (only monsters with hardcoded AI logic that runs per frame) there was no issues whatsoever.
>>722323354Loved Redhelm's female punk look.
>>722325731What mods do you use to have this clean look?
>>722326627Where can you get a clean Cheat Engine installer these days? I need to try making a cheat to turn all items into Rarity 1 items
>>722327216No mods at all. It's just 4k combined with fsr4.
>>722323354It's the one game where content bloat is a bad thing but that's also the point with gu
>>722328398The only bad thing was Hyper. I'd rather have ALL THE MONSTERS than wasting time fighting those gay bloats
>>722328141If you want to make sure it's clean you need to build it from github. They guys making the software distribute an installer on their website but you need to read extremely carefully because every checkboxes tries to install some adware or other crap. That's how they make their money.
>>722328617All right, thanks
Reminder that you can use lossless scaling now to play the older games at higher FPS without completely breaking them.
how many are you are monster hunters, monster appreciators, and monster fuckers?
>>722328823There's nothing to appreciate and nothing to fuck, only hunt.
>>722325070>CB/Swax not in the gameNigger, this is just retarded. The entire point of having 14+ weapons is to have fun with a wildly different playstyle, or for new hunters to learn a completely brand new weapon. Retarded.>Slinger and BoomerangStopped reading at slinger, as you've no fucking clue why slingers are dogshit to begin with, but now you want them as a new actual weapon? Along with boomerangs? In what fantasy world are you living in, anon? >Blademaster and gunner armors are backOkay, this is reasonable and solid. They've existed before, and they had valid reasons for their existence.>IG uses bothAnd here we go with the idiocy again>Gunlance ditches the shieldYeah, removing all ability of the gunlance to do what it does, great idea there. Why don't we remove one of the blades from a DB user while we're at it?>SNS becomes arm and shieldSo its about the same function as it was before, just without a small shield and autismal reasoning. I'd go ahead and call it "fucking genius" in the heaviest sarcastic manner, but I have the inkling that it'd fly right over your head. This is buttfuckingly stupid.>more slinger bullshit>swap palico and seikret for other retarded placeholdersThis one just speaks for itself>StoryMH was NEVER about story, get that shit out of here you useless shit. I've heard of fanfictions that have more nuance and better ideas than the drivel you just shat all over your keyboard and forced us to read. This sounds like some 14yo trying to pipe up in an adult conversation.
>>722310075So what happens when you remove this is having to use le i-frames to dodge. This is a huge winged reptile not a ninja or something.
>>722310075You think that's dumb?
rise 2 will save MH franchise, new weapon, underwater combat, hunting style, etc
>>722330172>underwater combatAre you retarded? There's a reason why it was deleted.
>>722330172Niggas asking for underwater combat forgot why it was dropped.
>>722330236>>722330359capcom will solve the control issue
All i want is rise combat with no wirebugs, silkbind or riding. i liked switch skills, giving LS a massive attack that isn't another flavour of parry was top tier, but i can see why some people like parries so having both is nice
>>722330507Capcom will just make more issues. They haven't made anything that wasn't an issue in years.
>>722306246I don't want to go back to having to carry back quest items to camp>>722308870>attacks having actual commitmentbecause of entropy we can't go back
>tfw just beat Omega WeaponI feel like they took the "this game is too easy and for babies" criticism too far.
>>722330518I'm fine with riding. If monsters couldn't silkbind each other, it would have been the best implementation of mounting yet.
>>722314335Hmm, time to log into rise, it is truly the peak of MH.
>>722330751>iceborne fatalis tier health>35 minute time limit>half of his moveset makes you jump on a seikret or run around in circlesKill all clankers
>>722323545>you have to put yourself in a chastity (guild style) to GU>Guild gets no new moves, so you are just playing 4U again with a few more monsters, half of them being Dromesit's so fucking gay.
>>722330751Not like that will matter anyway. Omega existing doesn't suddenly make the rest of the game not braindead.
>>722325731Wilds have the best visuals but the artstyle is dogshit. This is how normies like you get baited into buying trash.So yeah, enjoy looking at pretty things with the worst gameplay of modern MH.
>>722330824I see why it was done, you're supposed to ride the monster you're actually fighting to another one so you can slam and ride that oneStill sucked in execution, could potentially be good if given another shot
>>722318310Yes
>>722318310>didn't bring earplugs>didn't bring wind press>didn't bring poison immunityWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW I COULDNT DO ANYTHING ITS THE GAMES FAULT ITS LE CLUNKY WHY CANT I JUST PRESS THE AWESOME BUTTON TO COUNTER EVERY ATTACK AND DO A GORRILLION DAMAGE AIIIIEEEEEEEEEE SAVE ME RYOZO
>>722326627Uroktors are bugged too at 60 fps or more, at least on my end. Because of some kind of ground detection issue or whatever, when they do the move where they jump out of the ground, they instantly go back to a neutral state as they come out. The keep an active hitbox for the intended duration of the move so you can get hit by surprise while they seem like they're standing around.
>>722331198>Visualsthe game only renders shit within 10m distance, everything beyond this is covered in fog and smudged.Uses aggressive dithering and relies on upscaling.Looks absolute dogshit on lower settings.In what world are those good visuals? Unfortunately for Wilds, World exists, the only non handheld title released in the last 10 years.If we are talking performance, I'm sure that absolutely nobody will claim that Wilds on low setting looks better than World on high/max settings (and World will still run miles better in that comparison)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0JtuwQAlLMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWOCR7dkuKcYou need something around a 4080 where Wilds actually starts looking better (sometimes). That makes up a fraction of PC players.
>>722331252>implying you could fit all that into your single set in oldhun
>>722324757Frog website, fag
>>722332667>implying he needs all 3 combined to beat a fucking rathalosYou don't even need earplugs or wind press at all if you just use a weapon that can block instead of ungaing every monster in the game with longsword like the shitter you are
>plains generic theme>rey dau theme>arkveld themeThe game may be mid, but soundtrack slaps.What we need is proper village with memorable theme. Hoping we'll get something in expansion.
>>722332873For me it's the Nu Udra theme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4Rx9i4aCcc
>>722332871I am not implying anything. I plow through the game like a retard on my max attack boost set and never complained once.
>>722320307Dark souls 2 went from 4 way lock on movement and rolling to to 8 way lock on movement. Also sprinting capabilities while locked on were also increased.There’s so much wrong shit parroted about dark souls 2.
One of the worst things Capcom has ever done was change rathalos roar to a generic one
>>722332974Yeah, most of the apexes' themes are pretty cool.Tuna's theme conveys that "oh shit" feeling facing against a water dwelling leviathan even though he's a bitch pretty wellI also forgot to mention this bangerhttps://youtu.be/xAzmNqQk8AU?list=RDxAzmNqQk8AU
>>722332873Completely fucking disagree, wilds soundtrack is abysmal
>>722333418You're just being contrarian for the sake of it. Stop trying so hard to fit in newfag. Even if most of the game is ass you can atleast acknowledge what it did right.
>>722320307>Dark Souls 2 which is the biggest sequel flop/disappointment anyone has ever seenonly according to tastelet niggers who only play souls games to iframe through areas and to fight epic anime bossfights
>>722333418Okay, my dude. I am sorry you feel that way.Post your favourive stuff from classic.
>>722310075Holy SOVL
>>722332979Actually you did imply that. Fuck you bitch
>>722333508Contrarian is literally the opposite, pretending wilds sound track doesn’t blow massive cock
>>722333661>mad for no reasonoh no, anon's off his meds again
>>722332873>>722333508Reads like chatGPT
>one starts spewing "muh chatGPT" out the ass>another shits on soundtrack but doesn't post anything when asked tolmao discord troons are out in full force againtime to gtfo I guess
>>722306246I have at least 30-40 attempts on Savage Omega with randoms and haven't finished the quest a single time
>>722308870Playing the old games with an actual controller makes them piss easy so making the hunter slow and the monsters also slow is retarded lmao
>>722333912Who are you quoting?
>>722333924uhhh, your NPC support hunters? wtf are you doing playing with randoms?I cleared it on my third attempt and I am pretty shit
>>7223062465th fleeters own Monhun sorry
>le who are you quotingyou know, troonkeep giving me them sweet (You)'s
>>722334003>support huntersYDNBTG
>>722334128Why do third worlders always format their posts in lower case poems
you can really tell the people who say the old games were more challenging have never gone back to play them since using a handheld console was most of the "challenge"
>>722313870SOVL
>>722334171Relying on randoms for this quest is far beyond retarded, anon. I have no idea why would anyone do this to themselves. Just play with support hunters until you learn the fight and then solo it if you want that 'hardcore gaymer' cred.Or get friends
why doesnt monster hunter have mid mobs ? its either superweak trash or tough bosses?why do we kill the herbivores in one shot? why not some dino in the middle that takes several hits and can deal decent damage?also why is killing the onyl way to win? why not victory by attrition making the monster completely exhausted? making them fall of cliffs? more interesting ways to capture them weakening their limbs, throwing ropes on limbs etc? more efficiency baiting them into other monsters?i feel like the game is pretending to do these things but ALWAYS end sup in fight boss in arena and kill?
>>722317852No one cares about your retard opinion. The collabs have been fun so far out side of the Witcher one and that was purely because of a lack of moveset. Your anti-crossover autism won't be readily accepted.
>>722334356You could already tell before checking the filename on this one
>>722330751This gives me hope.
>>722330751The game is easy as fuck
>>722325070Ditch the homo erectus and the monkey and it's based
>>722325070>>722329574>>722325392CB and SA defenders get the ropeThe cringiest weapons of them all
>>722325070>No cats>Add a chimp insteadIt's fucking trash, my man. I didn't even read the rest.
>>722334594I can't believe Fatalis filtered that many people kek.I beat him with one friend though it was first time kill for us both
>>722334356MH used to have a more steady difficulty curve but it's been gone since World and that's a big part of why nu-MH feels so off. Game has to be piss easy until the credits roll so normalfags don't feel like they're being gatekept from content they paid for and it only leaves a handful of endgame hunts for the series to actually live up to its reputation. This gets us to this situation where 90% of the game is spent trouncing through shitmons on autopilot but you're supposed to ignore it because "muh Behemoth" or "muh Alatreon".
>>722335071Sure thing dude.
Hunters have too many moves and movement options now.We must retvrn to the traditional weapon movesets and movement speed for hunters.
>>722335359I have a screenshot as a proof (￣y▽,￣) Censored friend's name just because I am not sure if he would mind or not
>>722335656>posted non-editedWell shit, I am retarded
There's something about the eerie atmosphere in the older games like mhfu that I used to absolutely love that just isn't there at all in the newer games. Like when you're running from area to area, felt a bit like SotC type atmosphere in a way. In mhworld it just felt like everything was signposted for you and lacked that soul. I dunno, I dream of a day they remaster mhfu with just the same graphics
>>722335509Remove backward rolls/forward hops and you'll already be halfway to classic.
and there's nothing wrong with frontier monsters, once you get used to it you'll adapt
>>722310075>too scared to go in and iframe the tail whipsfucking filtered
>>722310075its like jump rope, just jump in and get it over with you pussy
Does anyone still play Gen Ultimate?
>>722330751UNATCO?
Holy shit I got the shield at the last nanosecond on Savage.
>>722336335Can you use the shield slinger for Delta Attack? I had some runs (not Savage though), when we had a full leg break before Nerscylla.
POST ROOMS
>>722310075i'm not going to defend gen 2 rathalos (or any iteration of this absolute shitmon, for that matter) but to be COMPLETELY fair, this area in particular completely broke his AI and he acted turbo retarded whenever he was there in freedom unite
>>722323470>>722323690>>722325376>>722325916>>722325971>>722333169>>722333509>comments about MH in a MH and talks shit about the easily worst soulsgame >gets the most replies with faggots coping
>>722336403It has to be the one from the nerscylla so no.I think it just deletes the shield on hit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Al_glhnciR4
>>722336335Follow-up, Savage is fucking dead!0 deaths, not even from insurance but it came close when it tried to run me over 3 times.
>>722336403I doubt it since they want you to kill Nerscylla. That, and I don't think Ners' shield is the same size as the leg break one
>>722336808this kind of music is extinct now, mh will never get kino like this ever again.
>>722336808https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JXXqOuBzZMI just want more areas with this kind of feeling.
>>722316651>doesnt once unload a fully charged swing on the tailLMAO
>>722337064sounds like resident evil 4 music
>>722332642I haven't played Wilds yetAre the maps like World? As in smaller maps that can be explored and what not, or is it just one giant world map?
>>722336845>support huntersYou didn't beat it
>>722337984They sampled Pandora's Toolbox and used it in all of their games in the early aughts. RE, DMC, MHhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsB61wE2tg4&list=PLhXHt-VzsOdE1SiPI9jZlUMfOonJmAL3h&index=39https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3EvYqM1s5U
>>722338698I don't give a shit, randoms are stupid and die in the first phase because they still haven't figured out how to avoid the ice blast.I got my 8 2.0's and I'm having actual fun again fighting normal Omega for everything else.
>>722308870Not entirely. Bloating monster HP is a good thing, it's what made guild quests difficult. Removing solp scaling AND removing infinite restocking would make guild quests axtually difficult and add the chance of possibly running out if heals or timing out. This is simply impossible in newer MH where you either have camp restocking or solo-scaling making every hunt village-tier.
>>722319505>>722319635>>722319770>>722319902>>722319928>>722320151>>722320396>>722321871>>722321996>>722322421Don't listen to any of these. All MH games are good. Just pick the one with the village you like the most :)
>>722339459You can't just say that, the only good MH is the one I started with and nothing else!
>>722338698Solo'ing him is an exercise in tedium. Might as well hit your dick with a hammer.
>>722308870>This kills the World baby
>>722314335Rise is the pinnacle of MH althoughbeitchance.It's true classic MH experience.
>>722335859You don't even need to iframe to punish. You can literally just stand near his feet and move in the same direction the tail is going. I love when rath does this shit cause it always leads to a trip. New MH players are just too stupid and ADHD to spend 10 seconds studying a monstera movments
Switch 2 exclusive MH when?
>>722335329>MH used to have a more steady difficulty curve but it's been gone since World*Tri
>>722339459>>722319505>>722319635>>722319770>>722320396>>722321996How is MH Rise?That one looked closer to 3DS MHs than World
>>722340813>closer to 3DS MHsThe only 3ds era game Rise is similar to is Gen/GU
>>722340813Its just World gameplay with spammable hunter arts, with the structure of an Older MH game with a hub and village split. Until Sunbreak where they realized the split was retarded when they still have the health scaling for the hub quests. Oh and one of the worst quest types in all of MH that they force on you I think 3 times total? Thankfully Sunbreak is a massive improvement over the base game, but the base game fucking sucks.
>>722341043idk I can jump between FU, all the 3DS games, and Sunbreak without feeling like I have to take a moment to relearn anything, whereas World and Wilds just feel alien every time I boot them up after playing any other entry.
>>722331252Just letting you know I made that post for laughs. Ive soloed MH4U, masters test, naked and afraid and white fatalis
>>722308870Third post Trvth Nvke post
>>722318661Id say 4U but GU is acceptable second banana
>>722315439I think all monsters in Wilds should be as dangerous and annoying as Omega.Ok, maybe not all of them, but at least all the apexes.
>>722340378Never
I wish GU had subspecies. Bloat isn't even a real thing.
tigrex... my beloved shitmon....
>>7223194763U and 4U3U may have a handful of interesting fights but half the games roster is subspecies and kinda boring. The one thing that spices it up is water combat.4U is probably the best all around. Just if you havent played old gen theres a lot of things you are gonna have to get used to.>Mining nodes and bug catching requires pickaxes and nets which can break and are consumed after a variable amount of hits>You have to click on nodes multiple times to keep getting drops. New world streamlines it so instead of clicking a mushroom 5 times to get 5 blue mushrooms you click once and get 3-4 of an item>Using any recovery item has mandatory animations you cant just roll out of>You will need to do a little more preparation for quests by packing hot and cold drinks for inclement weather and packing paintballs to track monsters
>>722340813Leagues better than the other anons claim, but it's taboo to even admit that it's good.
>>722338595Bunch of smaller maps, the only difference is that they added corridors to connect the maps but you'll be using wingdrakes everywhere so it's not relevant.
>>722344064>>You have to click on nodes multiple times to keep getting drops. New world streamlines it so instead of clicking a mushroom 5 times to get 5 blue mushrooms you click once and get 3-4 of an itemIt's been streamlined since GU which let you just hold the button on a node until it was exhausted instead of having to press it repeatedly. Also World still required multiple hits for some nodes like ore and bones, Rise is the game that made it so even those only require one hit to get everything.>>722344173Only one post said it was bad shitflinger, and that was only in reference to the base game not SB.
>>722310075it's because of your retarded fuckwad cat by the way. Turn them off. They make every hunt worse
4u fucking sucks manIt easily has the worst map design of all mh and weapon balancing is ass, expeditions are boring and g rank is not that fun. Still a good game but i enjoyed 3u, p3rd, fu, and gu way more
Fuck you oldfag purists. Modern MH is better in every way. I dislike World, Rise is excellent, and Wilds is fun. Gen Ult is pretty great though I'll give you that.
>mizu>lagi and steve>omega weapon>gogmaziosWhat the hell do they have planned for the last update? Each update has shown an increase in difficulty and hype so far, so they'll have to bring out an ace in the whole to top Gog. I think they should end Wilds basegame with a new ED or that mythical bird the plains people talk about. If they bring in a shitter like Zinogre I'll be pissed off.
If you were isekai'd as a hunter which weapon would you main?
>>722338698Where did this mentality come from anyways? 15 years ago advice for basically any game was "use everything the game gives you to win". Now it's the complete opposite. Is this the result of the younger generation tricking themselves into thinking they need to do self imposed challenges like their favorite e celeb does?
>>722346343Sword and shield because it's the safest option. Easy to learn and i can block. Anything else would probably get me killed.
>>722319996Not that anon, but I also prefer Tri over 3U. I think the progression of events is better, I think the other helper besides Cha-Cha (Kumbala or something?) was a little excessive, and also the fact that Tri didn't lock your save profile into a specific charm chart for the meta really helped it a ton.Also, something about that filter on the Wii version hit just right and had a ton of soul, whereas the Wii U was a little too sharp yet low-poly.
>>722346394zoomers are too good at games
>>722323354This. It was the perfect send off for the series. Everything I love and everything I hate.
>>722346343Everything
>>722306246Yes. What makes me mald are the nu-MH menus. Too much fucking info and they're ugly as sin.
Online is a huge part of pre world mh and is the only reason i want them to be ported to pc
>>722323059mainline games are always dogshit until they get salvaged by G rank
>>722308870This.
>>722346038A list of all of the game's monsters including TUs was leaked at the start of the year and it's been accurate up to this point. It is going to be Zinogre btw
>>722306246RETURN TO KINO
>>722331272Oh so thats what was happening. That was pissing me off.
>>722348521>spoilerIt better fucking not be. That would be the lamest possible way to end this game's update cycle.
>>722331272>>722349192Is that also what caused this?
>>722309675Another perfect example of >the game i played first is the best!
>>722315439>this game is too easy, it should be harder!>no, not like that!
>>722336697>I was merely pretending to be retarded
>>722348840I've been grinding away at this game, slowly but surely. I can beat Z2s now but I have a lot more fights to learn. A lot of the Z3s have an insane stat bump so I'm not looking forward to that
>>722347624So Iceborne is better than base World?
>>722322980The 3d actually helped with depth perception
>>722349673>picBased ZZ enjoyer. Endgame Zs are fun as fuck when you get used to them.
>>722349708It feels like 75% of a game without iceborne.
Man i love hunting monsters. One of these days i'll make my way back to G rank GU and finally see the last boss everyone hypes up.
>>722333181They need to stop fucking with the roars
>>722349673wait until you get to Musousliteral DPS gates lmao
>>722350429yeah I've seen the 10min quest timers and I know I'm not doing that without a maxed ravi weapon/true hiden/solid determination/whatever the fuck else is behind several grindwallsI'll either need a carry for the road points to get those or just a carry for those quests if I ever want to clear them
>>722319476FU, 3U, 4U. P3rd is slop for babies
>>722308870lol, then you end up with Elden Ring's retarded problem that /v/ also complains about, where the player is a slow motherfucker and the enemy is doing flips and teleporting all over the place and you have to basically play Simon says, where your "turn" to attack is very limited.
Aside from inflating player movesets and damage options, Wilds is also very guilty of optimizing out all non-combat challenges as well. No egg quests, farming is a non-issue, being able to just harvest everything as you run by on your Seikret, etc. There needs to be a balance between being a mind-numbing grindfest and just giving the player everything they need instantly with no restrictions.
>>722331272There's a few framerate caused hitbox issues which get worse the higher the FPSPic related, Volvidon slam at 30/60/120fps
>>722351378Of all the people I ever played with across multiple MH games, not a single one of them liked the egg quests.
>>722350714He said NOT to speed up monsters.
>>722351378>Wilds is also very guilty of optimizing out all non-combat challenges as well. No egg quests, farming is a non-issue, being able to just harvest everything as you run by on your Seikret, etc.Nobody fucking caresNobody likes egg quests except once or twice as a noveltyNobody runs out of farmable items since like Tri
>>722349437his fins were still moving bro...
>>722351378I was thinking about this today actually. I've realized I like grindy games, but not "korean mmo/gacha" tier grindy. There definitely needs to be a balance, because games that have no resistance also aren't any fun.It also creates a problem where 99% of the game is a steamroll, and then suddenly that 1% the devs try to make a hard fight and it meshes quite poorly. Like a song that suddenly triples its tempo in the last dozen notes.
>>722351849You cant have any sort of grind anymore man think of the gamer dads that can only play 1 hour a month...
>>722310075There are Rath's that can spin the other direction?
>>722310075This happened to me today kek
>>722315817>meme weapons like GS
>>722308870Undeniable proof MH died when X came out.Hunters doing anime bullshit, running at full speed with infinite ammo bowguns and doing perfect parries like in DMC into super attacks was completely fucking retarded and fucked over MH gameplay more than anything the reboot games did afterwards.
>>722351976bro, they just added the Talisman grind to Wilds which is the same shit as ever where it's almost impossible to get a god roll
>>722353916talisman grind doesn't matter for anything 8* and under which is the shit gamer dads care about, even with perfect gear rolls and shit they're gonna get shitstomped by omega and 9* normal monsters and cry about it on forums saying the game is too hard
I know you guys prefer the slow pace hunting of classic Monster hunter. But for me it's Risehttps://files.catbox.moe/9rpmi0.webm
>>722320307>Dark Souls 2 which is the biggest sequel flop/disappointment>Highest score rating of the seriesHuh? As expected, another shitter filtered by CHAD Souls 2
>>722325070Ngl i stopped at ranged weapons
From to getting filtered by Monoblos to G-rank.>hurr durr worldbabs could neverFuck you
>>722308870True
I'm excited for Stories 3
>>722308870Shit like this is why you retards deserved to get filtered from this series.
>>722306246BotW ass graphics
>>722308870This is absolute bullshit because it means the game was designed to be beaten by a slug
>>722310075now this is proper huntan
>>722356381That cute tomboy makes the game an instant buy.
>>722358402I am angry that she is not getting an Amiibo.
Baby Magnamalo.
What if they brought back elder dragons with yama tsukami?
>>722358851Isn't too soon to say that? Or did they clearly say she's not getting amiibo?
>>722323354That's honestly a very fitting description of GU.Whoever thought bringing back all the drones was a good idea.>>722323590Good morning to you too fellow SnS player.
>>722360112They already showed the amiibo for MHS3 in the TGS.
>>722306246Best gen
>Still no mod/patch for any of the MH games that scales all of the Guild quests HP to non-2player balanced bloatG Rank Duramboros grinding solo was awful, even if you had an optimized set for him.
>>722360632>another rathalos amiibo>no cute tomboy amiiboThere goes that dream.
>>722361148There's a GU mod that "rebalances" motion values, styles, and arts for single player. It works pretty well, hyper monsters are still fucking garbage though.
>>722307636Funny how the only people who say this shit are playing on emulators that enhance the game far beyond the original hardware. Monster Hunter peaked at Rise.
>>722306246I loved fetching eggs
>>722361875Rise is casual babby shit that nobody would defend if it wasnt a Nintendo timed exclusive.
>>722361524Rathalos is the pikachu of the series, you can't be that surprised.
>>722361996Except for Yellow, Pikachu was never a "forced mon that is tied to the plot" and even in Yellow you could dump him into the PC forever. THREE FUCKING GAMES WITH A RATHALOS NICKNAME "RATHA" BEING A FORCED MON AND RELEVANT TO THE PLOT IS ANNOYING!
>>722362141Oh wait, I forgot about let's go, I memory hole it out of disgust.
>>722361996Don't care, give me the tomboy amiibo.
>>722313870>Killed a Great Jaggi in 3U as it was entering its little hole in order to run away>The body fell into the hole, where it was incapable of being carvedI still have PTSD about this shit to this day.
fuck where's that cheaply made monster hunter parody webm where the guy vaults over a tail swipe then swings his sword at a SD doll in a go-kart when you need it
>>722361741Link plz
>>722345773>weapon balancing is ass>giving a single fuck about "balance" in monster hunterlol, lmao
>>722320393>which just isn’t how the game is designedyou are a shitterI could do most G rank hunts below 12 minutes when I was 11. Playing FU or 3UThe absolute state
>>722344020our hero.. Tigrex..
>>722361148what the fuckpeople like you are why the average world/rise/wilds hunt lasts 2 minutes solo
>>722363243This has never been true 2 min is like Chatacapra and the chicken
>>722344020would you a tigrex
>>722349673Z3 is where the fun dies
>>722363071I hate this thing
>>722363071this is supposed to be the menace of old MH games? KWAB
>>722362768Yes i doCb and ib are totally broken but most of the other weapon get nerfed hard
>>722361148If you're taking more than 10 mins on Duramboros with meta builds , you are unapologetically dogwater
>>722363653>noooo the new weapons were too good and the old ones were actually bad!Meanwhile you can beat the entire game with any weapon without issue
>>722348840How do you even get around to playing this game? Is it feasible to solo
>>722365915>SoloLol, this is exclusively made for online play, you can do some early quest solo but after a certain point even monster become god tier threat and even with best armor you get one shot
>>722361985That's rich since the bulk of its hate is because it was a timed exclusive.
>>722366108...Well, is the multiplayer active?
>>722366783It coming to PC later didn't fix the base game of Rise being shit. The game would be worse then Wilds for me if it wasn't for Sunbreak being so much better.
you guys should come play dos.
>>722365915There are tons of active private servers (Rain, Renewal, Mezelounge) with lots of people playing at any given hour. I play on meze and it was as simple as installing the client and logging in with a new account (and setting up the controller to portable mode)there are other small things you'll need to set up later like smooth camera movement and whatnot but you'll mostly figure that out ingame
>>722306246Nah, not simple nor stuck on underpowered Nintendo hardware.The best thing ever in the entire franchise is Iceborne Fatalis followed by Iceborne Alatreon.It's so above the rest that's not even funny.
>>722361875damn almost as if people werent playing the games for the handheld limitations but their godlike gameplay and game design you actual subhuman
>>722306246But I liked world, having the monsters feel alive for once was amazing
>>722366889Pick a private server and try. Rain is pretty active but you pretty much need discord to have an easier time finding people or just to ask a question. Also you have rastas, legendary rastas and your own partner. All NPCs. The rastas are ok early on but quickly become trash. Legendary rastas can solo monsters. As for your partner they can reach legendary rasta level so long as you build them up. You can also bring a cat but it's only to get more mats on part breaks, outside of that they don't do much except toot in their flutes. I played alone for 90% of my playtimeHarudo sex
I'm done with modern MH.MH Tri will forever be my best.
>>722368592This but MH4U.
>>722306246Yeah, and MH was not one of them. I'll take a handful on one-time only cutscenes and forced dialogue padding over returning to pre-World.
>>722361148some older games have attack cheats availableI played FU with 2x atk and it was much more enjoyable, plus I used armor that I liked visually than what had good skills
>>722366783Didnt stop tendies from defending it when it was a complete downgrade from World in every way.
>>722369716Better rosterFinished weapon designsNo forced online to do eventsNo rotating eventsMultiplayer far more convenientCan get started playing right away because it's less of a movie gameCan skip the movie parts they includedIt's easily better than world. Played on PC btw.Kill yourself consolewar nigger.
>>722354408Which outfit mod is that?
>>722368592*FU
>>722342407How did you deal with G-Rank? I tried it years ago but always got filtered.Granted I tried it solo since I got no friends but, yeah...
>>722346038Zinogre, only surprise is it will probably get a Thunderlord phase like how Mizu goes Soulseer. I think the leak also listed that Arkveld has a variant coming as well? Unless if it's just AT
>>722370735not him but play one of the overpowered weapons rather than your normal main and you'll have a much easier time, the weapon balance in 4u is pathetically horribleif you are capable of making decent mix sets with the armor builder you should be able to do 4u g rank prog solo
>>722370657FU leatherman
>>722361148nobody is modding that because its too gay
Yup...SOUL.
>>722369947Don't forget easy-on-the-eye characters.
>>722306246Pic unrelated. Remove Rath REMOVE RATHS
There is simply no way to save Wilds.
>>722369947Even though I agree that most of those things are better in Rise its still a worse game on the whole. The maps are smaller and dont need drinks or paintballs. While Monsters are a little weaker the hunter has way more skills to their advantage and Rise hunt times were way shorter. The game was made to be quick and disposable and the quality of life made it uber casual. That being said I still have a few hundred hours in Rise but my main enjoyment came when Sunbreaks TU mons were released. Metal Raths, Espenis, etc. Otherwise the main grind (Afflicteds) were total shit.I am a Switch owner and just telling it like it is. Tendies really overhyped it.
>>722372202>While Monsters are a little weakerThat's not true. The Rise monsters have more health and do more damage than their world counterparts.All the fucking wirebug cheese in the world can't beat the sub 1 minute hunts in World using rank appropriate gear because the monsters have no health and are easily abused through the environment layout (like ledges and slopes)Not to mention some of those retarded gacha weapons had absurd elemental values so you didn't even need a ledge to abuse and could just nuke monsters like Diablos.
>>722321996>FU is fun, but obviously lacks a lot of basic QoL stuffLike what? Outside weapon movesets not having certain attacks that were introduced in Tri, everything that you need is right there. If you truly want to see what 'lacking a lot of basic QoL stuff' is go play fucking Freedom 1 or MH1.
>>722308870It's crazy how you could only get 2 or 3 skills and actually feel the difference, now you have 2 pages full of shit
>>722325731christ almighty, can capcom stop using this shitty engine already
>>722325731Is this supposed to look good?
>>722372674>There is more granularity in skill builds rather than a single skill giving 15% damage increase>This is bad because uuuuuuuh reasons I guess
>>722368184Uh-huh, sure buddy.
>>722331064>so you are just playing 4U againYou really weren't since Generations CB was lacking a lot of what 4U CB had, but it's okay, there's a mod that adds 4U style CB is Guild, Aerial and Alchemy now.
>>722372674>could only get 2 or 3 skills and actually feel the differenceA lot of this actually had to do with them not explaining stats at all. In older games they didn't even tell you what some of the effects do, and they even don't include element damage so you'd have no clue how much more or less element something did, and even then if you knew the weapon mechanics you'd realize element for a lot of weapons was worthless.
>>722375183retard
>>722306246MHGU is a banger
>>722331198how are retards brain fried that they do not consider art style part of the visuals?
