What went wrong?
>>722312682gun waifu gacha game 2 was a better xcom clone
demo too shortunlocked items don't carry over between runsdesert world ugly
>>722312682The devs decided to get rid of the "your dudes" and dynamic storytelling aspects of the genre because the writer wanted to feel important. Now every campaign will feel the same.
>>722312682Just play xenonauts bro
>>722313718>story based strategy RPG has characters>this cannot standcouldn't you just mod it for the sort of experience where you just have Dudes
>>722313257ruined by elemental bullshittery and whalebait powercreep
>>722312682Desert stuff inherently sucks.Give me urban combat.As an example, FNV was a superior game to F03 in terms of everything game/story wise and mechanics wise, but the desert setting sucked arse and I wanted to explore urban ruins in a superior game.
>yeah go ahead and fight 20 squads with your 4>they outrange you btw>oh also if you get supressed to much your squad just completely skips its turn
>>722313718I've very hungry for a new XCOM and my favorite part of the genre is having "my dudes" with the dynamic story telling (which is making me understand my love for Kenshi a lot more, when put this way). Never heard of this game, but you seem to get it anon. This game worth giving a chance and at least keeping an eye on? Or is it never gonna scratch the itch
>you have 5 squads to defend an area the size of a quarter of the map >oh it's also located smack dab in the middle so enemies can come from any and every direction>oh also they all come in trucks that can move a quarter of the map in one go>oh also also those trucks are extremely heavily armoured and you need dedicated anti-tank units to take them out before they get in>oh also also also you only get a single AT asset. >good luck!
>people so buttblasted over the game having cute girls in it they make up cope about not liking premade squad leaders, convince themselves of their own reasoning, and become further psychologically fragmented
>>722312682I don't like spending half an hour on a single battle
>>722315681>cute girls>a nigger, a pajeeta, and a manjawed girlboss with daddy issues>>>cute girls
>>722314756>oh also if you get supressed to much your squad just completely skips its turnWorks both ways you dumb nigger. Suppress the enemy before they can suppress your dudes. If they got one of your squads suppressed move another squad up to lay down some fire and try to pin the enemy down. That's kind of the basic strategy for the game. Don't just try to outright kill the bad guys. Pin them down first and THEN go in for the kill.
>>722312682Expectations. It's neither XCOM or Battle Brothers.
>>722315997good job you've run your other squad up and with the remaining AP you've suppressed 1 unitthere are 8 morenow both units are perma suppressed because you are completely outgunned.
>>722312682I'm playing cyber knights instead. It's just more fun.
Haven't played yet. I love XCOM 2 Long War of the Chosen. How does it compare? Is this another situation where I am the biggest dark, low fantasy fan ever and a huge fan of turn based games, and somehow find myself NOT enjoying Battle Brothers?
>>722312682>its like xcom>watch trailer: actually its birds eye view in the desert and doesn't look anything like xcomThat was very underwhelming.
>>722313257Wht game I like tactical games but xcom felt unplayable sometimes cos or the retarded shooting rgn. Also apprently they made it so the chracters accuracy goes down as you play. Hate games like that do shit like that to make the game longer. Also is gears of war xcom clone any good?
Is there a game like XCOM but in medieval fantasy setting?
Anyone here fully play through Chaosgate? If so, how was it?
>>722316068>It's neither XCOM or Battle Brothers.what is it then?
>>722316427Define "like XCOM". If it's just the turn based grid combat you have Wartales but it has no base management.
>>722316584base management stuff too, so there is none then
>>722315765>niggerliterally pallet swapped european features and the cutest girl. you have gone woke and replaced reality with general ideasthe other two arent bad either>>722316534i think xcom is a good comparison. it will have base management and its grid based tactics. Its like battle brothers in that it seems like its more open world than xcom on the strategic layer, and tactically it has a battle brothers feel to its balance. with stuff like 'bullshit enemies you cannot properly approach causing situations that feel like you are fucked but somehow you are managing to hang in there and pull through' contrasted against 'non bullshit enemies that directly fuck you immediately if you dont approach them right but are easy to handle if you just move properly and count the spaces'remember to hit r to see enemy sight range
>>722316068My expectations were "it's good" and they weren't met
>>722316427King arthur knights tale is similar but unlike xcom its not like missions where you drop in fight and leave, it forces you to slowly walk through huge maps searching for the occasional near worthless item, checkpoints where you decide to refill either armor or health and optional encounters. That, the severe lack of enemy variety, forced filler mission spam and level / story progression being painfully slow all combine to wear the game down hard. I got about a third of the way through the game before I couldn't take the tedium anymore which sucked because the combat, voice acting and story are pretty solid its just everything surrounding that is monotonous as fuck. If you have a high tolerance for those downsides you might like it.
>>722312682It feels like there's a big open goal with xcom3 being deadThat they just decided not to take and instead took all the design choices to not pick up the potential captive audienceOfc they can make the game they like, based and sovl etc., just seems like a missed opportunity
>>722316942Any mods to fix it?
>>722316735>Calls someone a nigger>This game with a map for selecting randomly generated missions (overworld) is more open world than some other game with an overworld>>722316534The demo doesn't include the ship which is the base. It's X-COM in space. >>722314148In full game you'll get other map types.
>>722316308GFL2also it's a gacha game and uses the shitty Genshin Impact banner system where weapons and characters are combined in banners with characters having extremely low roll ratesAlso missions in the game fucking suck. They play out more like puzzles than actual tactical battles
>>722317009It has a standalone expansion with all the bullshit cut out, check it out. Legion IX.
>>722312682>got promised a tactical game>got a puzzle game insteadNah, i will not bother with your shit devs
>>722317278what do you think a tactics game is anon?
why does the perimeter sweep mission say you only need to kill 60% of the enemy forces when you actually need to kill 100% of the ones on the map? I've swept the map except 1 corner and killed everything I've encountered but I was still 1 squad short of accomplishing the objective. A single EMP squad was hiding in the last corner. where's the other 40% of the enemy forces?
>>722314148>As an example, FNV was a superior game to F03 in terms of everything game/story wise and mechanics wiseTodd will find you and kill you and your family.
>>722317009Thats a good question. I randomly stumbled upon it when it was heavily discounted on console, saw it was a turn based rpg that looked similar to wasteland and xcom with good ratings and bought it.I just took a quick glance over at nexus and theres definitely some mods that would certainly improve the game like faster walking speed, better scrolls, more gold and materials in chests and better formations. Theres some overhaul mods too but most of them seem to radically change the game. Actually the mod "KAKT 3v0 Complete Mod" seems to be a straight up enhancement of the game from what I can tell from skimming what it changes and adds.
>>722314756>>722314868This demo was braindead easy. I ran through it several times trying out different builds. I beat a run using only the vehicle chick and the mobile infantry, including a defense mission.You have to be a fucking retard to find this hard.
>>722317882>t. only did 1 skull perimeter sweeps and destroy the cache/IED missions
>>722316179uhh, what was this book's name?
>>722318028>xcom retard who refuses to learn a different game's mechanics>wahh you have to be playing on easy mode!This shit is easy and you're not even remotely as intelligent as you think you are.
>>722318580how do you do the rescue VIP's mission?how do you control the entire zone of a settlement defence? those don't have watch towers to soak shots and distract the enemy with and the zone is 3 times the size of outpost defence missions
>>722318441The Last Argument of Kings
>>722316163Based, one of the rare good Kickstarter projects
>>722312682Go woke go broke
>>722318580fix and flank is xcom 101 though?
>>722313257Based and trvthpilled This is actually better than xcom2
>>722318839"better than xcom 2" is not a high bar to pass
>>722316465The old 40k game? Some of its assets (voice lines for Chaos) got into ROSIGMA. It's an interesting contrast to X-Com and OpenXcom. I kind of like the linear campaign (with a few generic missions regularly you can play to fuck around and level guys), the limited fixed troop pool, and the very strong fixed aesthetics (you are exclusively 90smaxxed Ultramarines fighting the Word Bearers). It's nice you can zoom in and out of battles, I like how it looks, if you speed up all the animations in settings the game doesn't feel too stiff. You can optimise it to shit with saving, loading, and meta-knowledge like all linear old school strategy campaign games. I just played it a little to fuck around, knowing winning would be a foregone conclusion if I just learned the early few levels and powerlevelled some squads of guys into beasts. I prefer playing with unfamiliar stuff in ROSIGMA until I suffer an obscene defeat to something insane. If you want a more focused game you can master and win Chaos Gate is fine.Oh, it also crashes regularly. Mind that.
>>722318665thanks, I should pick up the series again
>>722318654>VIP missionsmoke blocks line of site. You pop it the the turn you walk into their square. Next turn you immediately have the VIPs run.>big defenseBe aggressive and mobile. The vehicle+mobile infantry can cover a lot of ground and kill on their own. Just run around the edges with them. Deploying armored infantry will draw the enemies attention. Then you kill them with the next unit.>no watch towersI never bothered with them anyway. Cover is nice, but not nearly as important in this game. Good armor and deploying is king. You take no damage even without cover.
>>722312682nothing game slaps, could honestly sell the demo as a separate roguelite mode, can get so many hours of this already also>tactics game = xcomI truly despise these baiting niggers
>>722314834openxcom has years of gameplay worth modshttps://mod.io/g/openxcom
>>722313257>>722317092>>722318839>unironically shilling the completely shit gameplay of gf2You play that game for coom an nothing else, gameplay is garbage and the story took a nosedive compared to the prequel. If you wanna shill a mica game at least shill bakery girl by the same devs which is actually a good tactics game and knowing they made that makes the garbage decisions in gf2 even more incrompehensible
>>722312682Here is a list to start you out.>pregen squads aren't the end of the world but they are unfathomably boring in both naming and presentation>squad progression is mostly generic traits reshuffled between tiers>no verticality>no true ballistics>no weapon customization>loadouts in general are way too basic>little to no environmental destruction worth a shit>no reactions, not even oldcom ones, let alone ARO>no freeform movement, we still somehow stuck with grid square movement in 2025>suppression fucking suck as cornerstone mechanic, it is a hard stun for all intents and purposes, which makes it uninteractive garbage that promotes very shitty gameplay style>for being a scifi game it has barely any scifi in it>clanner retardation in mission scoring (field the least amount of force and win in smallest amount of turns taken)>ai is clinically retarded, scripting only helps so much and it is only really present in capstone mission
There is just nothing more to play after a few campaigns.
>>722316427>>722316615If you still can't find anything, XCOM 2013 was partly inspired by Grand Strategy games and there are plenty of medieval and historical ones in that genre. Might wanna check out those games instead.
>>722312682>squad combat is garbage and feels unimpactful>suppression mechanic slows down every encounter>cant move more than 3 tiles if you want to shot>why flank? just shoot through objects lol>zoomed out way too much>vehicle is OP as fuckthats basically it, the game is slow and boringthere hardly any point to play aggressive and you are more likely to be punished for itimagine xcom but you have to put everyone in overwatch every fucking turn to winalso the planet is boring as fuck and all the buildings/ maps looked like ass>but muh demo>but muh other planetsthey choose this planet to represent the game instead of something more appealing
>>722312682white men deserve franchises and hobbies for themselves free from women and negrosthe leader of the most powerful military in the world has straight up said that a lot of female and none white soliders and military leaders are the result of lowerd standards to meet a diverstiy quota and because of racist/sexist discrimination.it makes no sense that a game about the best of the best soldiers to feature a mostly female or black cast
>>722317407I think Todd would be better off pointing that gun at Emil.
>>722312682I didn't like how it just devolves into move a bit, shoot to suppress, move another squad close so you can go for the kill, repeat.Chasing after cars is annoying.Also, there's fuck all to take cover behind in the desert so it's not like you can be smart about terrain usage.It's an okay game but not exactly a must-play for me.
>>722319779Which ones are actually worthwhile other than xpiratez and x-com files?
The game has issues. But this thread is pretty much filtered tears
>>722323983The threads have been a really weird mix of schizo posting, BB-style elitism and people getting filtered.Some good discussion posts did pop up though.
>>722314148>Give me urban combat.what urban combat? there is no close combat, you can't enter building too, LoS is absolute mess
>>722315681only cute one is black sistathe rich bitch and jeeta uber driver are both insufferable
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>>722324731This is why I refuse to use this daddy-issues whore.The writing team made a great deal of the dialogue insufferable 'wholesome chungus' levels of reddit cringe.
>>722318654not him but you do it fastonly ss O have from it, you can zoom in and see that it took 13 turns, everyone saved, no losses(maybe 1 squaddie dead)there are limited forces and you can easily wipe them/supress them, then just walk hostages to the map*if you really want to cheat it, just save the closest one and nuke the other - can't be hostages when dead
>>722320597>>no freeform movement, we still somehow stuck with grid square movement in 2025I really like freeform movement in Gears tactics, especially if you really close to cover the troopers extend themselves by sliding to it
>>722313797Fuck off Chris, finish your game.
This looks like a good placo to ask for opinions on phoenix point. I'm looking at it but i hear it gets boring?
>>722321290>they choose this planet to represent the game instead of something more appealing>could give nice grassland>give shiny desert..
>>722325461try Gears Tactics
>>722316186demo, try it instead of watching le youtoob vimeo on it
>>722325461It is serviceable but severely undercooked, i also fucking hate the sharp turn it did into xcom2 visual aesthetics middevelopment.
>>722316427i mean the same people that made THIS game started with Battle Brothers, its got orcs and undead and fantasy along with "regular" medieval stuff
>>722312682Non-whites, strong womyn, Gen-X writhing
I don't really mind women and colored but the fixed characters are the problem in two waysone the starting pool is limited(4 from 7) and their perk trees are fixed, the amount of them is also small(EA supposedly will have around 26 characters), that is small amount, little diversity especially with hard divide between drivers and infantrythe other thing is that they constantly yap and are insufferable, their voice lines are limited and over all they are annoying6 characters in demo only two are pretty pleasant to listen - the black chick and ginger, the pike and lim are meh, the sj and reva are just cunts, now that usually would not bother me but considering that you will only have limited leaders during single run(like around 12) and there will be only 26 in general - that suckwould much more prefer if you have big pool of leaders at last 50 to 70, bigger starting options and or ability to create some(local version of IMP from JA)
Are there mods for the demo yet? Something that unlocks all the weapons there are maybe?
>>722326842the voicelines are so annoying and bad, i can play JA2 or BG2 where few chars yap constantly the same few lines every move and dont mind but i wanted to mute Menace after 30minutes
>>722324780EXCRUSE ME TAXI PREASE Best character
>>722326187it really does get boring very fast if you have played nu-xcom already go for ja3 or xenonauts
>>722328927yeah, sameits like they tried to make some characters as most annoying on purpose
>>722312682It's not xcom, it's just mil-sim.
