See you later, space cowboy.
That's a lieThey always unretire
for once I was hoping the headline announced a death
>masters of albionjesus christ this looks like a game from the 90s, and not in a good way
>>722339008Can you believe that this con man used to be a beans salesman and became a video game developer almost by mistake? it was a strange twist of fate, but it makes perfect sense at the same time considering all the times he lied about Fable, and Black & White. His overselling reminds me of marketers in different fields. The guy that sells products on TV infomercials like Flex Tape or something if you get what I'm saying.
>>722339008DON'T BELIEVE HIS LIES!REMEMBER MILO!
Hate him all you like but I liked fable and played through it about 40 times.The sequels sucked balls though
>Trusting Lyin' Pete even for a secondI'll miss him
>>722339753>the sequels are le bad even if they're literally the same game as fable 1 but better and with weird camera controls and no death upon losing all healthok, chuddie.
Cant wait for his next game where he says you can plant a seed that becomes a tree that birds land in and make a nest and the eggs hatch and fly across an ocean you can definitely explore that shits in the grass fertilizing it causing a new tree to grow. That tree will then provide shade to the player making them become pale and vitamin D starved from the lack of sunlight and die but its okay because your kids you had with your wife who grew up over two decades in game will take over as the playable character.Then when the game releases it'll have none of these things and he'll claim to be the victim and is never making another game.
>>722339638>building are cubesno, not again...
>>722340425he's promising a god game, town builder and RPG game all in 1then you see the screenshots of the RPG section and see it's the same world, so everything is pretty sparsely populated and lower detail since it was optimised for the top-down gameplay
Molyneux is awesome and it's a shame to lose him. Journos sure hate him, and I have no idea why.
>>722339008I BELIEVE IN HIM
>>722339008This man was the original todd howard
>>722340636He's a lying conman. Every game, it's the same song and dance.Molyneux has more than earned the hatred gamers have for him.
>>722340636>I have no idea why.He put Todd Howard's lies to shame.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqAtLuk2NqA
>>722340667I believed in him once, and I got a farmville style god game with microtransactions and real-world 24 hour cooldown timers in return
>>722340754they both made only one good game
>>722340774It's weird getting a guy who makes good games but keeps over promising.
>>722339447There would probably be a dance thread when that happens.
>>722340608a god game where it turns into mount and blade whenever your people are attacked is unironically a good idea
>>722340878let me guess... Skyrim and Fable 2?
I guarantee you a lot of Peter's lies about Fable 1 is just lost to old internet forums. There's so many quotations not even found in that video posted earlier regarding 'peter's sweet little lies'. All I can tell you is that Peter was actually claiming wild shit back then. The way he described Fable made it seem more revolutionary than any game coming out today. You all have no idea how much he oversold the game with features that just didn't even seem possible. But I could go into archives and repost some of my recollections I've posted in the past.
>>722339638Wouldn't a water wheel need to be put in a river and not on a lake shore?
>>722339008This time I know it's for real.
>>722339008This faggot genuinely needs to kill himself
>>722339008My king...
>>722341640* the cube and saarfield
Yes he lied, but gamers deserved it and still doHe is the dev we deserve
liar man keeps lying
>>722339008>overpromising That's a very friendly way of putting it.
>>722341716>The way he described Fable made it seem more revolutionary than any game coming out today>fun short adventure game with emphasis on each quest having two choicesShow me an example of something like that coming out recently. To me, that is revolutionary to this very day.
>>722339008What happened to his hair?
>>722340774>He's a lying conman.literally from the start of his careerthe motherfucker was selling beans and conned his way into gamedevhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Molyneuxhe still delivered, though, for what it's worthI did like dungeon keeper a lot, so I can't hate the man
>>722341716He did the same thing with the demo for the Kinect
>>722341478Molyneux's problem isn't that he doesn't have good ideas. It's always been executing those ideas in a way that isn't massively disappointing if not outright shit.
>>722342168About DK, what promises did he make? Overall it feels like a complete and cohesive game.
>>722339753the man had interesting ideas, that's more than you can say about 90% of game devs
>>722341075>Your decisions as king matter!>Actually, if you're rich you're a good king, if you're poor your a bad king.
>>722342047>"Yes, you'll be able to plant an acorn and then watch it grow into a magnificent Oak tree throughout the course of the game.">One of the lionhead devs posted about the game on their fourms saying he got lost in the woods for multiple game days apparently while searching for a legendary weapon (exaggerating the game's scale)>you can marry and have children>You can have children that will become the main playable character if your main character dies>you can go anywhere: no fenced areas>you can do virtually anything (moly gave examples of poisoning a town's water supply or burning down a house with someone inside it)>Going out at night will turn your skin pale like a vampire if you don't get enough sunlight/stay out night all the time>NPCs can "steal" your open quests and complete them before you do>gangs of villagers will hunt you down once you become famous/infamous>you can carve your initials into a tree and see them ten years later>your behavior as a child will have a big impact on the future of Albion>every leaf of every tree being a physics object>every tree in the game being made to be completely different>A revenge system; the sons of those you had killed would, eventually, grow and train to become lethal warriors, tracking you down for vengeance.>Real time aging, including deaths due to natural causes>Your enemies would attack your family/house if you became a noble hero >being defeated could place you in jail in which you would need to escape or cocooned in a nymph lair which drained your power>you would grow from a child to adult ( was just an in game tutorial )>being defeated in combat: villagers could nurse you back to health in which it would advance game months in the world and age you and you would be in debt to village and you would fail certain timed quests, they might need payment for nursing you or have a quest for you. The mayor could potentially just take your legendary weapon as payment>blades of grass regrowing
>>722342186Saying "we should make a medicine that cures all diseases" is not a good idea if you can't actually make it.
I didn't list all of it all, but you don't know shit about what Peter said on internet forums. And most of you zoomers never will know. The gaming journos probably have no idea of this shit either or plain forgot, can't recall.
>>722344183>Uh, yeah, none of that is true lol. I'm just a good guy who didn't know better tho ;)
>>722344387idk sounds like this panacea thing has some promise, maybe we should make it. can we get ol petey boy on it?
>>722339638>Go into third person mode to control your hero>He's as tall as a two-story buildingThis is why you typically DON'T go into third person mode in strategy games. If he was going to go with this, he should have planned around this. Manor Lords lets you do this, but its fine because the dev planned on this from the beginning, so all the buildings and units are to scale.
>>722341749Not necessarily, but it does need moving water to, you know, be moved by the water
>>722339008I will unironically miss Molyneux. Both to see the weird ideas he came up with and to clown on him when he couldn't deliver on half of it (though, typically he still made good games)It's probably his time, though. He somehow created a new personal low by promising the greatest-sounding god game ever and delivering a broken phone game, and now his latest game makes your typical indie city-builder shovelware look cutting edge.
>>722339008I sort of feel bad for him. Have you seen how he looks like today? Fat, tired, depressed. Sure he over promised but in the end, he never made a bad game.
>>722346629He's not even pretending to be Steve Jobs anymore.
>>722339008The original hype man in this industry. I hope his game does well. He may have over hyped every game he was involved in but none of them were ever bad. They all had their own charm and were at least good games. Often very unique compared to most of the goyslop as well. If there was a compilation collection of all his games he worked on I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
>>722344183They were promising this shit about an Xbox game lolAmazing that young me was dumb enough to fall for that
>>722346629>I sort of feel bad for himDon't feel bad, I hear he got a security guard job at Datadyne, patrolling the hallways of a better game than his. He's doing swell.
>>722348860as a kid i heard nothing whatsoever about fable before i bought it so i just enjoyed it as a game
>>722339643In the 90s you could genuinely just apply at video game companies and with zero education or training sometimes get hiredHell in JP some of the biggest motherfuckers around started this way
the kinect is the future
>>722349080How was that entire presentation not a crime? everything was false advertisement
>>722341716I know exactly what you are talking about because I was a kid or teen around that time period. I remember me and a few friends were very hyped reading all the promises he was making for the game. The hype was definitely at a level I've never really seen for any game before or since.With that said though the game was still good. I also think he was light years ahead of his time with a lot of the promises. We kind of do see a lot of what he promised in games today. It only took a long time for this to be realized in gaming. Things like wild fauna and planting seeds? Well that actually is a thing in plenty of games today. Now the planting seeds that turns into forests isn't necessarily a thing today but its not like this couldn't be a thing technically if a dev wanted to do it.
>>722342047I don't think you understand but he promised way more than this for Fable. He made Fable seem like it was going to be a scientific breakthrough of a game with how he hyped it up to be. Nobody ever got the impression Fable was supposed to only be some short adventure game when reading or hearing about all the hype.
>>722349080I always wondered how much money he fleeced out of microsoft
the movies was a good gamei miss him
>>722342168I have really fond memories of games when he was under the Bullfrog name like Populous, Magic Carpet, Syndicate, Theme Park/Hospital, Dungeon Keeper, but one has to wonder how much actual credit he has in developing those games or if he's almost the french Tony TallaricoIs there any prominent dev from the 80s/90s that hasn't become crestfallen by now?
>>722344183A lot of this would be groundbreaking stuff even today. Things like your own children becoming the new main character in a fantasy based action RPG? And this can theoretically happen over and over as your characters can also die of natural causes? Not even a single modern game is doing that.
>>722349771>I always wondered how much money he fleeced out of microsoftShouldn't this make him based?
>>722349795it is honestly weird how nobody tried to copy it, we have a billion rollecoster and zoo games but only a single movie studio one
>>722339638>90% 90s SOVL UI>in the corner there's some modern bubbletrash slop button guidesHuh?
>>722339008Hasn't he said this a few times before?
>>722346176>He somehow created a new personal low by promising the greatest-sounding god game ever and delivering a broken phone gameDon't remind me of Godushttps://archive.fo/X0TuV
>>722349080>>722349189It's insane to think they believed anybody would believe this shit. I was a gullible 17-year-old and even I knew it was fucking nonsense.
>>722339008I'm out of the loop did he do something for the upcoming vaporware known as Fable 4?
one of the best games ever mad fuck you
>>722351087I prefer the 2nd, but the game really could have used a random map generator to give it some more longevity.Also Turtle. Shame there was no turtle in BnW2
>>722351087It was one of the most impressive games that's for sure.The engine was great, the creature was awesome, plenty of fun moments to be had...But the game itself was kinda rubbish. It was way too shallow to be fun. Very limited amount of buildings, very slow gameplay, ideas that didn't work out, etc. It was a fun playground, that's it. Picking up trees and putting them in your stockpile isn't fun gameplay, but it was way too slow if you didn't do all the work yourself.Molyneux did make several great games though: Populous, Theme Park, Dungeon Keeper, Syndicate, Magic Carpet. But once they started up Lionhead it all went to his head and he started sprouting bullshit constantly.
>>722352102>It was one of the most impressive games that's for sure.The guy who wrote the AI for black and white recently got a nobel prize for his work with AI
>never ever ;__;
>>722339008>AlbionIsn’t that what Russians call Britain?
He'll be back with some sort of AI scam when that trend is long deadA fucking Blockchain game in 2025 what was that retard thinking
>>722352213I'm not surprised. B&W was incredibly impressive.They just didn't manage to make a game that was actually fun to win.I remember how they had these plans for a whole series of B&W games, each taking place later in history with more advanced tech. I would have loved to see where they could end up if they didn't stop.
>>722349562I don't care about his promises though. There's no spiritual successor to Fable after all of these years.
>>722344183Wha could OF been
>>722339008Peter Molyneux was always an outspoken guy. He has a lot of notoriety around him. I don;t really understand the hate for the man, as he was behind a lot of famous franchises.
>>722339638no it looks like a unity game with bloom.
>>722353373Made promises he couldn't deliver.People don't like that.I mean, I enjoyed Fable and Fable 2, but they're much shallower games than was promised.It's like someone promising old Spore but delivering what we got, over and over.
>>722352442>Albion is an archaic and poetic name for the island of Great Britain, with its earliest recorded use dating back to the 4th century BCE by ancient Greek geographers who distinguished it from Ireland (Ierne) and other smaller islands in the British Isles.>The name is believed to derive from a Celtic or pre-Celtic word, possibly meaning "white land," which may refer to the white chalk cliffs of Dover.
It looks to be an unfun mishmash of Runescape and Unreal Engine assets
>>722351087best? fuck no, memorable? yes
>>722352932>he did x>no, he didn't>yes he did>I don't careYou're a very obnoxious type of retard, friend.
>>722353373Based on your moral compass, I'd say that you work at an indian scam call center.
>>722356229But my original statement implies that I believe Fable to be a revolutionary type of videogame in spite of any of Molyneux's promises. You won't have me doing a no he didn't.
>>722341075His games have gotten worse and worse ever since he stopped working with the big companies. He strikes me as one of those guys who badly needs a wrangler to work out the 1% of gold in all the bullshit he spews. Like Kojima.
>>722339638wtf
>>722339008>"master of albion">cursor is a mud brown handI'll pretend it's a lighting issue because the trailer shows off the game has atrocious lighting, terrible popin and awful animations.>picks up a manNope it genuinely is a shitskin handWhy does this look like a mobile jeet game?
>>722339638>that ugly UE5 bloomso tiring.
>>722358959because the developer, 22cans, are the same people who made the cube
>>722352932There is actually. Kingdom of Alumar. Its a game that actually nearly bankrupted a city or something as well iirc. It wasn't even a bad game either it was decent. Made by some ball player. The game plays exactly like Fable did.
>>722350158The only game I can think of that has a mechanic like that is The guild 2. Jank ass game but still fun.
>>722339638wtfwhy does it look like someone has smeared vaseline all over the camera lens?is this Oblivion?
>>722350158>>722359763Isn't that Crusader King's basic structure?
>>722360254We're talking about real videogames here, games with stuff like actual gameplay, voice acting, animations, 3D world, you know, videogames, not gay ass isometric make-believes.
>>722360254Can you take direct control of your character in crusader kings? I thought it was mostly a map screen with text.
>>722350158I don't think it would be groundbreaking. It's ultimately just a gimmick that requires the entire game to be built around it to be convincing while not actually offering much in return and even hampering design choices. Like, why do you want that as a mechanic? How do you think it would make a game better? One of the only real benefits is something like Sunless Skies where you get to make a new character that inherits stuff instead of outright permadeath.
>>722339008And you believe him?
Why can't he move on from god games? He is completely obsessed with this shit.
You'd think someone would have figured out how to make a good god game by now by just doing the opposite of what all the failed god games have done given how many there are.
>>722339008Why are inept, pretentious midwits like this still making games when the average guy I know has at least one interesting and actually feasible vidya idea after a ten minute conversation? Why are we still pretending good games are exorbitantly expensive to make? Why do so many girls work on games but don't play them? Why am I still paying attention to an industry I lost interest in almost a decade ago?
>>722348860see the magic of Molyneux is that everyone kept believing his lies, including investors.
>>722359241The cube was the original no man's sky lmao I remember that
Daily reminderhttps://youtu.be/Qhzb9OUWrXU
>>722359449IIRC Kingdoms of Amalur was basically an attempt at an mmo without outdated movement and they turned it into a comfycore rpg instead
>>722350158Medieval Dynasty has the 'get married and when you die your kid becomes your character' thing, and I believe it goes on endlessly.
>>722339008i stopped paying even the slightest bit of attention to him after that stupid cube game
>>722339008Does this guy just pay journalists to write about him or what
>>722360606I wrote down an outline for a game once where one of the penalties for dying was that mobs in the area you died in would basically scatter and/or appropriate your things, so you might not even have what it takes when you respawn to reclaim your gear, because you're basically tracking down NPCs walking around with your old stack of powerups, so it's functionally like you spawned a few new roaming mini bosses
>>722339008Not much of a redemption given the game was a NFT scam
>>722350745holy shit
>>722361653
>>722361206Why should he? Its been the thing he is known for. Should Todd Howard move on from making immersive open world exploration RPGs?
>>722361323Black & White is in no way a bad game. That game was amazing fun and I kind of wish I had it set up right now since I would have no problem playing it right now. Monkey creature was my favorite.
lol he got fat.
>>722339008I don't care what Pete promises as long as the game comes out good. Peter could promise a million things, have none of those things be in the game, but if the game is good on its own merits, I couldn't give less of a shit that he lied.The problem is that he hasn't actually made anything good since Fable 2 which itself wasn't spectacular.
>>722360606Individually none of those would be groundbreaking yes.>Like, why do you want that as a mechanic? How do you think it would make a game better? A lot of people play these types of games for the satisfaction of seeing a character grow as well as growing the NPCS, towns, world around them. All of those small things feed into that sensation just like seeing stat numbers go up, getting gold despite never using it, or getting another weapon to go with your other thirty can still give players that sense of progression and character building.
>>722350745oh well, not many can say they got lied to by peter in real life.
>>722344183I'm so glad you posted this, fuck man this unlocked some old memories. Especially that part about how you'd be able to have children and you're character could die and then you'd play as your own kid, I very specifically remember him saying exactly that. FUCK YOU PETE
All the Fable games are dogshit. You honestly have to be a retarded 10 year old to enjoy them.
>>722350532Because that game was fucking insane. It had 80 sets, 700 props and costumes, 400 premade scenes, 30 original tracks, an entire folly library, free camera to make your own shots, it's own movie editor and technically it's own YouTube website. That shit was fucking insane.
>>722353373>I don;t really understand the hate for the man, as he was behind a lot of famous franchises.Most people here were literally born after Molyneux's legitimate wins.He's not a pure con artist by any means - he pretty much personally invented "god games" as a genre with Populous (1989) as well as theme park simulators (Theme Park, 1994). He's got more legitimately good games to his name than most industry figures. But all of those are from 80's and 90's. In the modern era his name is synonymous with overpromising and underdelivering, and that's what most people are familiar with.
>>722365286He is an idea guy with just one idea.
>>722348860>Amazing that young me was dumb enough to fall for thatIn your defense, gamers were a lot more easy to fool back then. People seriously believed this was real Killzone 2 gameplayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwrp9hndH_U
>>722341075Need Brown Anne to sit on my face NOW
>>722341264It certainly will be stickied, and rightfully so. I love a party thread.
Just give this man infinite money and infinite timeand you'll get infinite lies
>>722348906God I wish art deco would make a come back.
>>722350158There are a few medieval games that I don't recall the name of which do that, I was just looking at one during the Steam sale earlier today. I was recently playing a game called Wildermyth which did that too, over the course of the game my dude had two sons and then retired himself..
>>722352442it means white in acient roman or something
>>722339638correct, in a Great way
Sorry, but Populous alone make the guy our guy forever. Good? Sometimes. Cool? Always.Now after googling other devs I learned that other on Populous team, Glenn Corpes, did Battle Engine Aquila and that's wild.
>>722339008He peaked with Dungeon Keeper 1 and has been chasing that masterpiece ever since. Sad.
>>722339638It looks nothing like a 90s game, clearly mid-late 00s
pop3 was fun
>>722339638this is like aoe3
>>722342183he at least came clean on why that game never came out, for how much it was overpromising it never actually materialized so technically he never lied.
>>722339008>I'm done with videogames says the man that never made a videogame in his life
