Talk about your favourite parts of the game.I for one enjoy the sexy bugs.
>mfw flea juggle
>>722341883Flea juggle is easy and fun when you get the hang of it. Flea dodge can fuck right off.
>>722341986flea dodge is the easiest one tho
>>722341883The juggle was fun. That said, I messed around with juggling stuff on my own in both games.The flea dodge is utter horseshit tho. Took me almost 10 tries to win it.
>>722341327>sex mother silkWhat did Team Cherry mean by this?
>Granny Silk's Hot Butter Ice Silk
>>722341883Tried it for 15 hours straight the other day with mouse and keyboard. It's not happening. Ordered a controller, we'll see what happens when it gets here.
>>722342118That women should be sensuous. Simple as.
https://youtu.be/ST_nnCRUJdAIt's up
>>722341883flea juggle >>>> flea pogo (because it's too easy) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flea dodge
>Start up my second save>Realize that it wasn't Hornet that broke herself out over a bridge, it was a white butterfly that landed on her cage that took away its magic runes>Can't remember anyone with white butterflies in the game>Get to Deep Docks>See pic related
>>722341883Us the shaman crest. The energy wave lasts a while so you don't have to be ultra precise with your timing.
He lives!
>>722342231>flea dodgeRNG means you can have 10 free dodges where you don't have to move or a complete clusterfuck surrounding the platforms.Hmm
>>722342292And here's the butterfly breaking Hornet out of gay baby jailhttps://youtu.be/vkmC-ULdLAQ?t=81I feel like a retard for not catching this on my first playthrough
>>722342292She's also the one who guides you through the Mist.
>>722341327Hello trannies
>>722342364...but for how long?
>>722342364Do he get crushed in Act 3 like the shopkeeper?
>>722342385I don't know if that's necessarily the case. IIRC, you can save The Mist until after you hit Act 3, and Lace wouldn't be around to guide you through the mist.Phantom, being Lace's onee-sama, also being able to use the butterflies would make a lot of sense. Maybe Phantom WANTS Hornet to kill her to end her suffering so she guides Hornet through The Mist to reach her pipe organ.
>>722342385Don't make up bullshit.While Lace is trapped in the abyss, the butterflies still function in the mist.It has to be either butterflies themselves, or Phantom, doing it.
>>722342364>>722342437I missed him the first time I returned to Pilgrim's Rest after collecting the 3 songs was up the secret path that leads to the rhino beetle banging on the door and if you do that you have to kill it before it leaves the room to find Pilby there. I guess the implication is that if you free it then it kills Pilby on the way.
>>722341986>>722342084>>722342231Are you kidding, flea dodge is super easy. Almost beat it first try.
>>722342618As someone already said, flea dodge is RNG heavy. It's very easy to get into a situation where you're fucked. I failed at 60-61 like 5 times before I got it.Meanwhile juggle and pogo are entirely on you with no randomness in the mix.
Who the fuck is Gumbo?
>>722342613Nah, Pilby showed up for me after the rhino had wrecked the place
>>722342554
>>722342613Where is that path? I can't figure out how to get in that room.
>>722342823Well, that's what the wiki said. Could be wrong, but I never encountered Pilby in act 2.
>>722342841Through the bell station.
>>722342830Why does Hornet have a tail? Why is she being washed by her aunt?
>>722342920Oh fuck me. Some of these hidden things are too much.
>>722342985It turned into a pattern that things were hidden in the stations so I just attacked walls like crazy and occasionally found stuff
>>7223429853 or 4 stations have hidden paths in them. I only found that one thanks to a flea clue nearby.
>>722342957Hornet so lucky
>Hornet knows who Mister Mushroom is and has spoken to him beforeIt's so odd having a character who actually knows the lore. Also posting Widow.
Aww c'mon dude this quest is bullshit man, there was nothing I could do whatsoever
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQxwbZsL14YIt's impressive how much of the game was similar to what we got all the way back in 2019. What could've possibly caused 6 years of delays when the game seemed to be mostly complete back then?Did it take 6 years to perfect Sherma's voice?
does anyone have the image of The Last Judge wearing a basketball jersey?
>>722342957They are not related fuck sake! by that logic everyone in hallownest is related
Hornet is a canon slut.
>>722343109Hornet is for /ss/ incest with her half-brother, not /ll/ incest with her aunt.
>>722343105Which are the other ones? Can only think of the one in bellhart.
>>722343130That quest IS bullshit. I don't blame DSP for that. It's like 3 - 4x harder than the Grey Mourner's delivery in Hollow Knight and it's required for a nail upgrade.
>>722343119Basically all of act 3's main story is based on lore from HK.
>>722343105Deep Docks has a flea
>>722343207For silk
>>722343207She's a cannon slut. As in, she really likes cannons.
>>722341883Ok nevermind, I beat it with a 44 juggle record right after making this post kek.
>>722343130I'm impressed he made it that far honestly
>>722343185All the weavers are children of GMS. Herrah fled Pharloom for Hallownest, and Hornet is Herrah's biological daughter.
No wonder the Pale King treated snails like shit. They are irresponsible niggers.
>>722343130Any of the delivery quests worth actually doing? Don't tell me they count for unlocking act 3.
>>722343271Grey Mourner's breaks after one hit, so while you're not timed there's absolutely no margin for error. Rasher's timer is generous enough that you have two or three hits before you're fucked, assuming you're not an idiot and leave it to last when you already have the clawline and double jump.>>722343458Besides the Rasher which is needed for a nail upgrade, the egg gives you more Silkeaters from that guy, the rest only give rosaries. They're not required for act 3, but all 6 courier quests count for half in the number of quests you need to do for act 3 the first time you do them, so you get a maximum of 3 "points" by doing all six of them once.
>>722343458You need to do one to get a nail upgrade, but the rest are just for money
What if the Flea Games count as bosses for the eventual pantheon and Flea Juggle is right before the three hardest bosses?
>>722343185They're kinda relatedIf GMS is related to Lace because she made her out of silk then it's just as arguable she's related to the weavers, which would make Herah her daughter, Hornet her granddaughter(fitting) and Lace Hornet's aunt
>>722343458There's a point system needed to unlock Act 3. You need, IIRC, 20 points to get it to trigger. The Courier's Rasher counts for 1 point, the other deliveries for 0.5.
>>722343130Not get hit?I mean, I made it with, like, 2 bars left if I remember right.Mind you maybe it's because I used the blasted step path. Is that faster?
>>722343687Stop giving them ideas
>>722343687Why do you faggots struggle with the juggle? I did it with Wanderer.
>>722343691The Weavers were not made of GMS' silk the way Lace and Phantom were, they were uplifted in the same way the bugs of Hallownest were uplifted by Pale King. That's why the guy said "by that logic everyone in Hallownest is related."
>>722343420>All the weavers are adopted children of GMSFTFY
>>722343616The timer is what makes it so difficult. You effectively have no extra time. You barely have enough time to make it through Grand Gate with 1 bar left on the Rasher.
>>722343271What a fucking loser.If you have a proper plan and double jump it’s a breeze. I did it before getting double jump even. I also used the shackles that allow you to run faster.
>PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP PLAP>GET PREGNANT>GET PREGNANT>GET PREGNANT
>>722343732Blased Steps is the way I went, I think you can go through Sinner's Road or Mist Thicket if you're insane, I don't know what's faster but it's not like it matters, there's plenty of time though I'm sure someone will eventually plot out the most roundabout way to get there and do it
>>722343898
>>722343832You have plenty of time if you're properly upgraded (clawline, double jump, speed tools). It's only hard if you're trying to force it before you have the other four when you gain nothing from it.
>>722343271You can clear out the enemies on the way and just speedrun to it. I got to them with like 2 lines left on the timer.
>>722343185>hey she's my cousin>she is?>we're all cousins
>>722343803I don't think it was quite the same as what the pale king didHallownest seemed more like a civilizing influence, him just being in the area and founding a civilization made the feral bugs civilized, and a decent chunk already were before he got there.GMS had a much more direct hand in it, she specifically took particular bugs and uplifted them herself because she wanted children, basically remaking them into something new.
>>722343691Atleast they are not twins
Made this. Is it a good meme?
>>722344021less platforming an enemies to avoid through organ
>>722343898Since Lace is made of silk, there's nothing stopping her from getting a silky futa dick.
>>722344021I went through sinners pass, then up through the pipe organs.
is Lace a virgin or used goods?
>>722344021>forgetting to stop and ramming into a wall at the endSOVL
>>722341327What even is this OP? The hair looked like Silk
>>722344267Hornet is the one that's used goods
What should i use for the flea juggle though? Because if i can't finish this tonight i am dropping the game.
>>722344356I wonder why her hair looks like silk
>>722344424Reaper. It has the most range.
>>722344223The fact is that I don't understand it
>>722344223>>722344545
>>722344424Wanderer, don't bother worrying about aiming them unless it comes naturally to you, it doesn't to me, just take note of what order they enter in and know what one you're going to have to hit next, easy
Threesome when?
>>722344623Shakra doesn't have bapanada
known kingdoms in the HK universe so far>Hallownest>Pharloom>Black Wastes>City of Ironkinda sad they're moving on from the franchise after this because the last 2 sound interesting
>>722344021You can make it even easier by clearing out enemies beforehand.
>>722342538>maybepretty sure it's outright stated in the journal that she wanted to die in combat
>>722344424Wanderer and don't jump. Only dash and strike upwards.
>>722344689I know I just wanted to show you don't have to although I probably spent more time getting it hitless than it'd take to clear them out, some of them are useful to bounce off of though
>>722344593This raises more questions but I'm smiling so I guess it's a good meme
>>722341883It hard filtered me until I was told to stay on the ground without jumping. It really works.
>Oh by the way, lifeblood will destroy PharloomDamn. Talk about burying the lead.
How does the 2 act 2 endings that doesn't progress to act 3 work? Do I just get send back to the save before the boss? If I do curse ending, can I then go and cure it afterwards for the crest?
Does Kratt get off to Hornet pogoing his head or what.
Act 4 but we find shakra like this
>>722345201What could've done this
>>722345046Yes to both.
>>722343271LMAO DSP ASS NIGGER
>>722345225She insulted Cornifer to Iselda's face.
>>722345225By the time you've 100% the game you can find shakira in bellhart extremely tired from fighting voided enemies and she urges to stop voided silk already
>>722344687>Black wastesDetroit?
>>722344424ShamanBut mostly it's about figuring out the technique, you want to try and keep all the fleas together, count the hits for each flea and know which ones are going to leave the screen and which still need more hits, and if you fuck up accept a single strike instead of dropping two or three trying to catch all of themBeating Seth's score fucking sucks but it's not that hard to beat Mooshka's.
>>722344687They said their plans for dlc are ambitious to say the least so who knows what we get
>>722344623Baposhanadonka.
I've been told that wanderer was OP, and I'm finally trying it on my 2nd playthrough. You silkfags weren't kidding.
>>722344595>>722345556yeah i don't see myself being able to do that, i just want the oil. Why did they lock 2 oils behind such shitty quests
How late is the Coral Tower? I know there's apparently a difficult platforming section there but I'm about to go down to the abyss and I've still not found whatever it is you need to do at the tower. I'm starting to feel like I've missed something.
>>722345732Keep doing the abyss.
>>722344687>moving on from the franchiseIs this confirmed? I would've thought they'd want to make a trilogy desu
>>722345718They are the most substantial upgrades in the game, have you tried not being shit?
>>722345732Coral Tower isn't platforming, Karak as a whole is but once you've unlocked the shortcut and found the crustnut you're basically done.
>>722345709Architect is better because tools are OP. With Wanderer you still need to have good fundamental skill at the game but Architect let's you cheese almost everything with tools.
>>722345860i have, since i am in act 3, but it hasn't been fun. I got the delivery quest oil but this flea shit is even worse
>>722345901What does architect add to tools? I thought it was the drill attack that made it strong since it was nerfed so hard.
>>722345815not confirmed but we know the name of the next game. they trademarked it and is called fearless fox
>>722345960Architect has a second bind that refills the tool count. Plus you can use three at the same time.
>>722345732It isn’t the coral tower it’s the lead up to it that you can do before act 3
>>722345960It let's you use 3 tools and you can craft tools on the go at the cost of silk.
>>722345960lets you get too many of themyou're basically trading all your shards and rosaries forever to make the game easy as pressing 2 buttons
>>722345960You spam the cogflies and Blue Gatorade and then you press bind + up and refill them.
I think Hunter shouldn't reset all the built gauge when you get it. It should drain like 30% of it instead.
I finally beat Lost Lace brehs, and would you believe it, I did it using the Barbed Bracelet. It's the only time I've ever used it seriously, but for a fight where learning to dodge attacks is better than face tanking, it payed off immensely. I also deliberately didn't equip a silk skill so I could just focus on needle hits and heals. Still took me about 3 hours or so to beat. I also ended up enjoying the fight, but I still don't think Lace is a good enough character to warrant all the attention she gets in the game's true ending.
>>722342447>he broke the door mechanism
>>722347145GMS didn't do anything wrong. She just wanted children and it's her "children" that fucked everything up. I guess the one wrong thing she did was select vile pieces of garbage as her adoptive daughters.
>>722347145Did the Pale King actually die? Bardoon thinks otherwise iirc.
Why is there zero weaver queen hornet fanart
>>722343354>he doesn't know
>>722345909Use the shaman crest, it makes all the flea minigames way easier
>>722347272>the kingsmould in which the palace was hidden and locked was leaking void>the kingsmould around the throne room are all dead and leaking void>there is void in the throne room>the pale king was hollowed outIt's pretty clear the implication is that the void killed him.
>>722347652>>the pale king was hollowed outThat by itself leads weight to him simply casting off that body and taking on a new one, especially after Silksong showed us what beings taken over by void actually look like.
>>722347269And also be stupid enough to give that much power to mortals in the first place and being weak enough to let them imprison her. More of a dumbass than the Pale King could ever be
So the base "Weaver Queen" ending with Hornet taking over and turning the Citadel into gigantic cocoon from which she will hatch as a fully realized god is essentially what the Weavers wanted out of her, yeah?
I like it when Hornet is kind, noble. Extends olive branches, hands in friendship.
>>722348057No, the Weavers didn't want anything out of her. It's GMS's subconscious that compelled the haunted bugs to capture Weavers outside of Pharloom and bring them to the Citadel.
>>722348590>No, the Weavers didn't want anything out of her.The Weavers as a whole did want someone strong enough to slap the piss out of GMS and free everyone, it was Herrah individually who went "yeah nah that's stupid, do whatever you want."
>>722348590Pretty sure they did, Herrah is the one who said she can be whatever she wants, I can't imagine who else she would be talking about here other than the Weavers
what color did you paint your bell home?
>>722347740Why would he do that tho? If he was gonna leave he could have just dipped as is.
>>722348590>No, the Weavers didn't want anything out of her.The Red Memory directly contradicts >>722348826, and even without that the structures in which you find petrified Weavers to bind for new abilities has them telling Hornet to reclaim the kingdom.
>>722348179I was pleasantly surprised by the ending of second sentinels little questIt was all setting up for a pointless sad ending where he makes Hornet kill him because he has nothing left to defend but she just smacked him around a little and told him to shape up instead
>>722348876Blue, to remember Quirrel by
>>722346914GG. If you posted right after you won we beat the game at practically the same time. >barbed bracelet and nothing but nailI take it back, I did not beat the game compared to you.
>>722347968>More of a dumbass than the Pale King could ever beWell, she IS a woman. One with baby fever to boot.
>>722348915Only reason why he took that body is to be the personal god-king for a bunch of bugs instead of being a massive impersonal entity like many other higher beings. If he was going to dip from the kingdom then the king body had no purpose.
wanderer crestmulti binderinjector banddruid's eyesflea brewweighted beltthis is easy modejust unga bunga on everything and heal when you drop to 2-4 masks
>>722349029But if he had the ability to turn back into a full-fledged Wyrm and that's what he did then there should be some signs of a being that large leaving.Also, if the body found in the throne room truly is a cast-off shell then it shouldn't have dream dialogue.
>Pharloom is what happens when there's no Pale King D to go around.Sad. Pale women must be bred by Pale King or they bring ruin to their kingdoms.
>>722349307>tfw the pale king was coming up with the most extreme contingencies to contain the infection but all he had to do was fuck the Radiance
>>722349228The cast-off shell still had the King's Brand. It should be obvious that they still retain some memory of the Pale King's spirit after being cast off.I never said he had to turn back into a full-fledged wyrm either. If he can change bodies then there's no reason to assume there's a limit of two.
>>722349307Pharloom was a more developed civilization though and did things Hallownest couldn't dream of doing, something something flame burn twice bright last half long.
>>722348993Genuinely, it made it easier for me. I dont know why I'm like this. I did still use Flintslate though. That being said, I have definitely become good at the game since being shit when I started.
>>722341327Story rundown:>There are these things called "Pale Beings" which are basically Greek God-tier deities in the bug world>One Pale Being, Grandmother Silk, comes to a functioning, albeit nascent, kingdom known as Pharloom>GMS starts spreading her silk around everywhere granting bugs extra power and extended lifespans>Pharloom bugs get high off of her supply and she starts mindcontrolling them subtly>Kingdom starts rapidly advancing technologically and has a strong government made up of the Architects, Conductors, and Vaultkeepers>Pollution caused by the Citadel/GMS ruins Bilewater/Sinners Road, Sands of Karak, and the Coral Tower>Weavers (spider descendants of Grandmother Silk) have enough of GMS and stage a rebellion led by First Sinner, the snails, and the bugs of Bilewater>Rebellion succeeds, but First Sinner is locked in gay baby jail forever and The Widow gets her mask broken and her silk sealed>Grandmother Silk is sealed and the kingdom starts falling apart because her immortality silk isn't being produced anymore, so places like Greymoor start harvesting silk to reuse it>Widow goes schizo because of having her mask destroyed and undoes the seal on GMS, causing GMS to start "The Haunting">High ranking bugs start going to other kingdoms to kidnap Weaver spawn that fled during the Rebellion which is how Hornet gets kidnapped>Lace frees Hornet in the Blasted Steps before she can get her silk harvested
>>722349307Based on what I have seen around people are more divided than ever on whether Pale King was gooder or worser than your average Higher Being.
>>722347490It just occurred to me lace is still alive in that ending, is she not?
>>722349728>Kingdom starts rapidly advancing technologically and has a strong government made up of the Architects, Conductors, and VaultkeepersThis is already wrong. The Weavers usurped GMS and the Conductors usurped the Weavers.
>>722349609I find it unlikely he'd go to all that trouble in the first place and then just fuck off when shit starts going wrong, I mean why is the concept of killing Radiance in the dreamworld so unknown to him in the first place
>>722348876>normal red>steelsilver>speedrunblue
>>722349621>Pharloom was a more developed civilization thoughWas it?Yes they forged a lot of bells, but they also ruined their waterways and ruined their farmlands.Tramway = elevator as far as I'm concerned.
>>722349940Dreamworld was a moth thing, maybe he just didn't know how to access it>b-but the palace is in the dream worldI DON'T KNOW DAMMIT
>>722350008City of Tears produced enough waste for only the Royal Waterways to manage and remain free of toxicity. Citadel produced enough waste to ruin the ducts, Bilewater AND Sinner's Road with maggot poop water
>>722349940The Dream Nail was considered a mythical lost weapon at the time. You only get it in HK after the Dreamers banish you to the Dream World, from its previous Wielder who was also there.
>>722349840Pale King didn't cause any problems as far as I remember, he just didn't kill the Radiance and his plan to fix that problem didn't work out because he picked the wrong son.
>>722350137Can you imagine the Pale King visiting GMS and asking 'bitch, you live like this' after seeing the state of the place?
>>722348876Any color but red is wrong
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK IF I HAD KNOWN I WOULD NOT HAVE BOUGHT ALL YOUR STUFFI DON'T EVEN USE THEMTHIS ISN'T FAIRGIVE ME MY ROBO-WIFE BACK
>>722349876She gets adopted
>>722350206Silksong is a game for MEN, get this SISSY SHIT out of here
>>722350301She is too cute to have to suffer this fate
>charges Hornet for letting her know the flea locationsBitch, she's doing you a favor.
>>722350301The Architect "dying" is truly some Miyazaki-tier bullshit forced tragedy.
Finished everything in my 100% file. I don't think I'm hardcore enough to do speedruns or steel soul
>>722350632Exactly what I said. I thought Jubilana was the biggest jew in the game but I was wrong.
>>722350008Pharloom is mid industrial revolution so more environmental damage is expected.>Tramway = elevatorTrams run on steam power maybe and seem much faster. They also have guns, automatons, much more massive structures, more machines everywhere, mining based on explosions and industrial scale forging, the whole citadel is like a giant fortress factory. If everyone died in the City of Tears it would just be vast empty halls but everything could be dead in the Citadel and that place would keep itself running for ages.
>>722350893The biggest jew is Grindle. Well, more like the biggest gypsy.
>>722349926I don't think the conductors usurped the weavers, the weavers just fucked off once they realized their cocoon was failing and the conductors filled the vacuum
>>722351062>automatonsDon't they run on silk, not mechanics?
>>722343724As much as I love the game, the transition to act 3 feels extremely jank and out of place. Left a weird, underwhelming, feeling for that part of the game. The explicit quest system in general is probably the main culprit and just feels wrong for the type of game.
>>722349926
>>722351372This anon >>722351209 is probably right but it's correct in that the Conductors only became the governing/ruling faction once the Weavers were mostly out of the picture.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ffUZvB2Ip6I
Favourite Silk skill?Threadstorm is amazingCross Stitch is neat and fun, but silk doesn't generate fast enough to just counter a boss battle to deathRune Rage is great on slow enemiesSilk spears are great for fast enemeisWisp flame (I'm counting it as it drains 1 silk) is pretty trash except for cheesing one fight.
>>722352139Theres really no competition, Threadstorm is the best by far, but I will say Pale Nails are very good for when you are busy focusing on other things because its completely automated. Its the safest silk skill to use in any situation.
>>722350301>>722350639I mean, she tells you herself that her time is coming to an end.
>>722352139It kinda sucks that once you learn the not-so-secret secret of Thread Storm it just BTFOs everything else.Poor Silkspear also gets basically replaced by Pale Nails which do the same damage and auto-aim for you.
>>722352325Yeah but it's still bullshit and forced.
>>722342118I wish I had my own Sex Mother Silk.
>>722348179Seeing the Second Sentinel defend Songclave and Shakra defend Bellhart made me feel warm inside. Too bad about Bone Bottom
Sentinel actively tried to kill Hornet and was spared. Green Prince asked to quietly mourn his gay lover in a dark tunnel well out the way of everyone else and had his heart cut out for a 4th heart in a 3 heart mission.
>>722341327There hasn't been a Mantis Lords Moment for me yet. I don't think i like this game as much as other metroidvanias, not even the first one
>>722353009He was suicidal when you meet him in Sinner's Road, I don't think he minds going out like that.
>>722353009Your point?
>>722353009Good
>>722353072Silksong lacks the sovl of the first one unfortunately.
Canon
>>722353289>See tall Amazonian buggess using Indian weapons>"Must be a pavement ape!"
>>722353009Which is better, using his heart to save a cool heart as a memento (but getting aids), or ripping his heart out for no reason and putting it on a shelf?
>>722342807>Rhino grand hunt>Haunted Gallery>Bone Bottom quest in what looks like the CitadelMan, I forget how much everything changed from that first trailer.
>>722353289This but unironically.
>>722353225I do agree. Silksong is a much better game on a mechanical level but the world they built in it pales in comparison to Hollow Knight.
>>722353428>see African warrior>she must be African!
I just think she's neat
Dude.
>>722353621It's perfectly safe to overdose on plasmium
>nu-/v/ not falling for low effort bait challenge IMPOSSIBLE
>>722353621Did you find his assistant?
>>722353621He's where he wants to be.
>>722353621Act 4 spoilers
>>722353621He went out the way doing what he likes. Doing copious amounts of coke.
>>722342830Hornet should use Lace's fabric body as a towel.
>>722353621>cogflyI'm just here to say that you did not beat the game.
>>722353590Agreed. I think I'll always going to prefer Hollow Knight just because it was the more memorable experience overall.
>>722353621Guaranteed pantheon boss right there
>>722353802t. wanderer's crest flea brew 3x healbot tool lowbob
>>722343271Silkspeed Anklets and clawline.
>93% completionI failed.... I'm not going to bother getting the rest until a DLC releases
>>722353616>best fanart showcases the puffy pants instead of imagining a fat assNice
After I get all three of the songs, how close am I to the end of Act 2?
>>722353802Desu I just like having them around sometimes because they are cute and sing whenever Hornet uses her needolin.
>>722353931Two boss fights away
I will now open the floor to hear your excuses as to why Team Cherry chose not to put a super creepy scalpel surgeon boss in the game and instead filled what was obviously his place with this haunted square bedsheet.
>>722353957Is there anything I should do before that? Stuff that is missable in Act 3?
>>722353289>NPC talks like a retard>Must be blackWhy are you so racist? Black people can be eloquent.
>>722353894Nah. fat ass lace is kino looks like her mom
>>722352139Thread storm is by far the best at dealing damage but I was impressed by how useful they all were if you wanted to use them, at least the ones I put in any time with. Cross Stitch just trivializes some bosses, the timing is really generous and the iframes on the attack after countering are insane, the damage isn't great but the utility is unmatched, any time you would get hit and have to heal just counter instead for half the cost and it feels extremely cheap.
>>722343271if you clear the way and equip the sprint charm you can get it there with 3 bars easily
>>722354158Silkspear does the 2nd most damage (or at least it did the 2nd most if the update didn't change things) of any silk skill.
>>722354042There are two fights against Shakra and Garmond, and obviously you should clear out your quest boards and the Huntress' quest in the Ducts
>>722353009Hornet is racist AND homophobic. She's /ourpalebeing/.
I am listening to the Silksong OST on bandcamp and I've decided I like a lot of it.Especiallyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR2zqX7hijohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xo_ZAUVtkQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74Umb1tu5tUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8vkHtZRLDYhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQim4FcbwpkBut when I was playing the actual game, it didn't feel as if the soundtrack stood out much. I can't figure out why but I think all in in-game sounds of combat and platforming and environment and Hornet's vocalizations kinda drowned out the music. Could be that.
>>722354410>Click one to see if your taste is good>Cogwork CoreI deem you "Anon with Good Taste"
>>722342163My advice is to try out different crests, and stay on the ground. If you try to jump and hit the fleas, the timing gets mega-fucked sometimes. Just stay on the ground, dash and try to aim them towards the same direction when you have time
>>722341327Definitely Coral Tower. Amazing level. The enemies that fly and move just outside of your range are probably my favorite in this game.
>>722354410I remember enjoying Karmelita's song / music while I was dying to her many times. Also the building music during Mt Fay and The Ascent were certified kino.
>>722354410Bilewater is my favourite of the bunch
Okay but why does she not Shaaa
no silk regen on hit for the father of the flame fight...this is pain
>>722354592>no shaw when you do downward strike or dash attack with the hunter>no edina when you use thread storm>no hegale when you use silkspearsovless
>>722341327Made for BWC
>>722354410Choral Chambers is actually one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard
>>722354674Cheese him with volt vessels
>>722354410IMO, the original still has better music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJDn70jh1V0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWquuWkHVP4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvpCX9qtyZEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JWANCA-Pbwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVyJmhiJjA8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xkM8mWC4Kkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp5M2BAXwSohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkD5Ceo8KAohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wfAVkXxhEw
>>722354410For me it's Widow and Cockwork Core.
>>722354708>No GIT GUD
I think that both games are good
>>722354896>check out random video not even related to video games>greenpathIm so sick of it
>>722354410I personally fucking love Hunter’s March. It hits such a perfect mood
Trobbios are the only poorly designed boss fights in the game.
>>722355059But i liked trobbioes
>>722341327Discovering The Mist, being confused as fuck, wandering into the Exhaust Organ and then fighting Phantom. And the qte at the end of the fight? Yup, I'm thinking kino.
>>722355059Once you understand what he's about both his fights are fine. You just have to accept you'll be spending most of the fight hiding from and evading projectiles and their explosions rather than being super aggressive because Trobbio himself is either: literally not even on the stage or inside a tornado.
>>722352139Rune Rage feels like it should be better but the cast time in relation to the damage fall off from repeated Rune strikes on the same enemy makes it feel clunky as fuck.
>>722354896not controversial at all, pretty universally agreed HK ost >>>> SS ost
>>722355546it's almost like it's meant for room clearing instead of straight single target or focused aoe damage
>>722354410The back to back area music of Greymoor, Shellwood and Bellhart is absolute SOVL. Shellwood is probably the most underrated OST in the entire game, the flute melody is so good.https://youtu.be/wt9f1d8XMQ8?si=kleNaUcKrFMBXpsM
>>722354896https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGcYPyZRyTY
>>722354410Unfortunately even after finishing the game and listening to the OST on its own I feel like it's largely underwhelming with only a few standouts. Widow, Choral Chambers, Cogwork Core, Karmelita, Red Maiden, and Bilewater are quite good but outside of those I'd struggle to recall any particular theme
I don't remember a single track from HK's OST desu
>>722355854I don't rate it too highly either but if you don't remember City of Tears, you're lying or you didn't play the game.
>>722354985Same, fantastic games. Those aussie cunts know their shit
Rune Rage exists to kill that big acid bug that protects wormways.
>>722355908I'm just old with a failing memory
>>722355935I killed it in act 1 by jumping up on a platform, hitting it once, and then hiding under the platform again for 5 minutes (as God intended you to do)
>>722354032Whiteward is the Soul Sanctum of this game where you get to see what happens to normal bugs when they've been stitched back together one too many times and it won't take anymore so they just toss their unraveling corpses down the body disposal chute, including one of the previous Conductors.
>>722356004>watching someone attempt to kill it for 2-3 minutes then decide it must be immortal and give upNoooo....NOOOOOO....!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNZseCk34_sI think this is a good track wasted on a bad boss
>>722356004ditto that, one of the first bosses I killed in the gameit has only a single attack and gives a clear punish window and way to avoid taking any damage its just a matter of persistence
>>722356161Doesn't Seth get it as well
Best track in HK and SS is still Crystal PEAK.https://youtu.be/DWKKsB0rD40?si=8MbEk-c6Hx6RURo5
>>722356161If I'm being entirely honest I have no idea why it was so mournful. Hell, if I'm being honest I'm still confused on what Nyleth even did, they're vague as fuck about the specifics of her rule.
>>722356161Yes, but it's also used for Seth's fight, which is great. Not joking, I got emotional thinking about the context behind Seth, and I'm quite sure they wrote or at least chose the music for that fight first, and then just used it again for Nyleth afterwards for continuity.
You reckon it's possible to kill a wormway worm in the early game?I know a dual mirror heal will kill one because that's how I got them later on.
>>722356452Sorry, should've specified I got emotional while fighting him, while also thinking about the context.
>>722356465Silk storm or pimpillo can do it, at least towards the end of the game, I don't know if there's some scaling with nail upgrades helping or something but you can get both pretty early
so uhh, what's the trick with Verdania?I killed the gay niggas and found the first bench, but everything else is just...not connected? wat do
>>722356464Did the Pale King become the big Wyrm again?
>>722355648Silksong's best music is backloaded in its second half. Lost Verdania is the best music in both games and 99% of shitters would be filtered before even getting a chance to hear it.https://youtu.be/_4P3NmMap6w?si=VHawVDLvxYI0QTx1
is it true that you can you autokill the seth bossfight by pausing the game and turning your console's clock ahead 16 years?
>>722356452Came off as too much to me, like it's sad he died but don't try and act like I should give two shits about his character who came out of nowhere by playing sad music, plus if you don't know the context behind it it makes no sense
>>722356649Down button + Needolin next to the Green Prince and his close male friend.
Reminder that GMS did nothing wrong>>722349728The citadel was built after Silk went to sleep, both church and cage. And that makes me think the Slab was built after the citadel. The weavers made their own religion with themselves as gods. And I think it was the weavers who imprisoned first sinner. The conductors took the mantle and they too kept silk locked up, the opening poem suggest that weavers&conductors took advantage of Silk sleeping and bound her in servitude (slavery). Essentially milking GMS of her Silk. The timeline is a bit confusing, and there's some things that make no sense whatsoever no matter what way you put it (see Phantom). But the game makes a heavy point about "dominance" , all factions in this game were hungry for power, weavers , conductors , karak, ants, Silk, even Hornet. Though I have no ideea why Silk needs Hornet to witness her waking, even Hornet herself has no ideea why Silk needs her
>>722341327Fuck you and fuck this dogshit fucking game and these dogshit generals. Fuck off to /vg/ with the rest of your brown tranny ilk.
>>722356783Again? Like I said, I already killed them. Got the heart, got the map, but the map shows a big area and I only have access to a tiny bit of it, because it's all walled off.
>>722356464Made for Big Ghost Cock>>722356865Oh you're the guy with the jeet bot
>>722343185Yuritranny is mad
Uh ohMelty
>>722356950>tranny devolving into schizophrenic ravingEvery single fucking time. This game is for trannies. It was made by trannies, for trannies, just like the first one. It is tranny coded down to its very source code and you cannot enjoy it without being a tranny or at least being sympathetic to trannies and their sensibilities. All the fan art is yuri tranny gooner trash, the story is about tranny shit, the game uses woke pronouns to avoid upsetting its tranny audience. It is literally the most tranny coded game ever made outside of actual porn games.Fuck all of you fucking Silktrannies. Stop liking tranny garbage.
>>722354410>it didn't feel as if the soundtrack stood out muchYou are right because the soundtrack is horribly mixed in-game and compressed to hell (the game is only like 8 gigs). I would gladly download an extra 30 GB and not have my ears bleed. If you listen to original tracks in 24-bit it's a night and day difference.
>>722356948That's the area you were in in the dream genius, you can't go back there
>>722356948Ah right. So the bit that's now a darker shade of green shows Verdania, the former dwelling of the Green Prince and his kin. The now light green area of your map shows Verdania as it currently is in time in Pharloom: long ruined and abandoned. It's "blocked off" due to the Act 3 trigger causing all the damage to Pharloom. The lush green Verdania where you fought the Prince was in his memory. In the present day that area is blocked off by boulders (forever). But even if you could go there in real life there wouldn't be anything or anyone there.
Lost lace is a lot of fun, aside from occasionally running into her by accident because I can't see her model she's pretty fair. Do people actually complain about her?
>>722353881Completion is based entirely on upgrades, so it's not based on stuff like "find every single optional boss" unless those bosses have upgrades as rewards. It's really easy to 100% the game, it just monotonous as a checklist.
>>722341327Just started playing this the other day. Around launch I checked some of the threads, but I can't believe all the whining I've read about the ant enemies. "waaaah they take 6 hits and move like a boss". They go down like nothing cause you attack fast as fuck as long as you're not using the slow ass reaper which only shitters that can't into diagonal pogo would. Also, the game is SUPER generous with shard and anal beads What were people talking about saying they can't use tools because there aren't enough shards? Were they stoned? So far, I got as far as greymoor, but just went back and killed the Savage Beast Fly with no upgrades (I had the two tools, if you count that as upgrades, the spine shooting traps and the kunai, didn't use them, except traps near the very end after I was already on like my 3rd set of two adds ). It was the first moderately challenging boss that took me a good number of attempts to beat, but it's still absolutely a walk in the park compared to the bosses I've fought in other Soulslikes, including not only Sekiro, but even third rate shit like Blasphemous. I don't even think it's harder than a lot of bosses from the original. Also never had a single issue with the diagonal pogo on the hunter's crest. Are people literally fucking retarded? Like, is this the same crowd that can't into tank controls in classic RE because they're simple minded fools with zero patience? Since when were those people the audience for games like this? Also, LOL at the stupid faggots modding the game to get the compass for free. petulant manbabies. Anyway, so far I'm disappointed. From the discussion on /v/, you would've thought this shit was balls to the wall harder than the DLC from the original Hollow Knight from the very beginning, but no. It's fucking easy breezy so far. And they made it so you can't even get lost anymore.
>>722356767Yeah but the fight is good anyway and he's this old guardian whose stood in front of that shrine for god knows how long. He's a formidable warrior able to 1v1 Hornet despite just being a dude with a pin and a shield. I don't know, still works for me.
>>722357354What were all those stupid faggots saying they beat Hollow Knight but couldn't even handle the early game in Silk Song smoking?
>>722357354Nobody cares Soulstranny.
>>722350389Savage Beastfly wasn't even too bad with zero upgrades. Almost every boss in Sekiro is a million times harder.
>>722356161>>722356452I hope I'm not the only one who thinks the Nyleth bossfight should have been something else entirely or simply didn't even exist. As it stands it's really forgetable and easy next to Seth, when in any case it should be the other way around.
He's literally me.
Karmelita is my wife. young, hot Karmelita I mean
>>722357625every time a soulsfag talks about game difficulty lmao>I had to spam my right mouse button TWENTY TIMES when the long arm centipede attacked me!!!
>>722346932Will the shopkeeper not get crushed if you don't break the door? How does that work?
>>722343119It's funny how she speaks shroomish
>>722357687I'm not even sure what Nyleth is supposed to rule over? Ants have a ton of presence in Act 1, you get to fight Kahn and the Green Prince's forces in their dream worlds, but wtf is Nyleth even supposed to be?
>>722357861Soulstrannies are barely even sentient beings, I swear
>>722357758I for sure thought that he'd ignore the dish and eat his assistant.
>>722343135I haven’t watched this in forever and watching now what actually did take them this long? They showed like 80% of the game there 6 years ago
>>722356862Bad mom
>>722357914Does she? I thought he tries speaking it at first and then switches to english or whatever the equivalent is
>>722357914I think interacting with the shroom tablet allowed her to speak mushroom.
>>722357905I don't think that door was rated to support 500 tonnes of rock falling 100 feet lad.
love win?
>>722343119Best girl.
>>722357354>as long as you're not using the slow ass reaper which only shitters that can't into diagonal pogo would>he doesn't know about WandererlolBut yeah you're right, it's seriously overblown how difficult this game is. It's a symptom of the fact 90% of Hollow Knight "fans" finished the game between 60-80% completion and Silksong was made for the people who beat Hollow Knight at 112%.
>>722358103Sorry, that was just my reading comprehension.
>>722358021my theory is they got stuck in a sort of paralysis where they couldn't figure out how to blend areas together, where to put what, what to cut and what to keep. the game does have a feeling like there was a haphazard process of decisionmaking about the zones, and zones such as Sands of Karak suffered most from this approach
>>722358015I was kinda expecting something like that to happen too. And then turn into a fight. Would have been kino.
>>722357758What happened to them in act 3?
>>722357936She's just some generic forest spirit. She speaks for the trees.
>>722354410Dude the bilewater theme is great, definitely my favorite of the bunch you posted
>>722357687I liked it, the concept of a fully aerial bossfight is great and it was fun to pogo her over and over even if it never really did anything that interesting with the idea. It should have been a bit more complex but they were probably worried about filtering people who never got used to the pogo.>>722357936She was the original ruler/progenitor/guardian deity kinda thing of the shellwood, there before the Citadel and they made a deal with her that let her keep control and probably was why it wasn't a polluted shithole or dead like the other nature areas close to it, in exchange for locking her in a shrine and not interfering with the citadels business when they needed to pass through.
>>722358141
>>722358031Needs void correction
>>722357936i've said this already a few weeks ago but the heavy-handed musical fanfare and tragedy of Nyleth was weird and came out of nowhere. the music guy went hard like it was Sealed Vessel 2.0 but it was just some angry plant that didn't exist in the story up until 30 seconds before i found it
>>722358424They're still there, he says he doesn't care about what's happening outside with the Void and that nothing will stop him from feeding his master I think
>>722356452i dont know who tf Seth is irl but it really felt like a "Kickstarter backer" type boss which made it kind of mid. At least it's better than the hk1 ghost bosses
>>722358318Imagine the seething online.>I RAN ALL ACROSS THE ENTIRE MAP COLLECTING INGREDIENTS AND DELIVERING THIS STUPID RASHER FOR THE GOURMAND ONLY FOR THE FAT FUCK TO IGNORE IT AND ATTACK ME ANYWAY FUCK YOU TEAM CHERRY
>>722358424Thicc boy is still vibing, servant is still grumpy and tells you to piss off so thicc boy can vibe in peace.
>>722358620It wouldn't be the worst thing they've done
>>722341327So, grand mother silk is pretty much dead in the abyss unless there is dlc for her?
>>722358831We don't know what the Void does to the higher beings it absorbs. Well we know it completely destroyed the Radiance in Godmaster but that wasn't absorption, that was the Shade Lord literally just ripping the Radiance into pieces. I don't think GMS was ripped into pieces, I think she was just absorbed.
>>722354896They are never topping City of Tears, are they?
>>722356465Doesn't the Sharpshot skill insta-gib them if it connects?After you get the needolin it's possible to unlock the skill immediately by jump->float->airdash->healbind->float to the weavenest platform.
>>722352365what do you mean the not-so-secret secret?
>>722358953So it's possible we might have a void version of GMS in dlc?
>>722359058Mash spell button to extend thread storm duration.
>>722358831Depends if the knights gets to her in time. It could be a possibility that she goes "Lost" too.
>>722358953Presumably once the cocoon is down the same tentacles that came for Hornet would come for her>>722359058You mash or hold the button and it last longer
>>722351349they run on the souls of insects, ie the white butterflies.if you play the needolin for the fourth chorus it says>WE... ARE... ONE...>WE... ARE... MANY...now watch what happens to all the automatons when you beat themeven fourth chorushttps://youtu.be/TizPzmn5WnE?si=FuinSMxPwL2nndWH&t=250watch what happens to go through its eyesthe scientists of whiteward discovered the soul of the insects, the white butterflies, and infused them into the automatons
How do I get rid of this incestuous gay couple's conjoined hearts? It's just a momento now
yesterday I got my butt kicked by ant queen for like 40 minutes. today I decided to try the flea brew and just face tanked her, purposely eating most of her attacks and beat her in 1 try. This boss is easy I was way overthinking it.
>>722341327Anyone else actually appreciate the struggling economy in this game? It's a pretty overt criticism of capitalism/financially motivated evangelism that's woven into the gameplay by making you, the player, feel dirt poor and desperate for currency the way the common rabble of Pharloom must feel on a daily basis. Then you reach the Citadel in Act 2 and there are rosaries everywhere, all the enemies you fight drop it, you find rosary strings and loose rosaries in every corner, there's even a secret room with a tool that shoots rosary beads as projectiles. One of Hornet's journal entries mentions that she wonders if the enemy in question is naturally large or if it became so due to the Citadel's excess. Of course, visually speaking, the Citadel is so much gaudier and flashier than the rest of Pharloom, so even on a surface level the intention is pretty clear.Are there any other good examples of games weaving social commentary and critique into the gameplay in a meaningful way? Especially indie games. I'm sure there are, but I can't think of any.
>>722359260You don't, it will forever remain a reminder of the hate crime you committed.
>>722359205Wonder what Knight could do with GMS if he saved her?
>>722359202>>722359221Oh, I beat the fucking game and never knew that shit lmao
>>722359452>what Knight could do with GMS if he saved her?
>>722359260I hope they patch this. the annoying beating ruins my cozy home.
When's the last time Hollow Knight got updated on Steam?I swear I've kept mine up to date until now apparently.
>>722359246here's the rooms in whiteward were you can see the many dead bugs they have extracted the souls fromhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loxqzrs8rQ0>to serve without shell
>people had issues with this fightSeriously? Would have been difficult-ish fight for early-mid act 2 but for so late into the game this was pretty easy.
>>722359647Today actually, because of some Unity engine vulnerability. Before that, years.
>>722359447Just like they patched salubra's retarded laugh?
>>722359260Should've give it to the snails and saved a cool heart as a memento
>>722359710Its just not a very fun fight. She just stays outside of your range most of the time.
>>722359710Do people struggle with it?It's just kinda lame
>beat most of the game>have like 4 things left to find and no hints where to find them>only options are revisit every room in the game or give up and use a guide
>>722359938when I hit that point I save it for when i replay the game in a few years along with the dlc. i'll 100% the game then. probably..
>>722344407would YOU let yourself be a virgin if you were immortal?
>>722359710I didn't struggle with it, I just thought it was gay and not fun. She just floats above your head most of the time using the most telegraphed projectiles in existence and then she charges up to use the most telegraphed needle art in existence, then does a generic "please pogo off my big ugly stupid fucking head" charge across the arena like every other boss.She's supposedly a master of the needle so I was hoping for a legit fast-paced duel like Lace or Shakra.
>>722359938There are websites that can analyze your save and tell you what's missing for 100%
>>722359802>clawline>silkspear>various toolsPlenty of options to damage her while she's floating and she comes to the ground plenty of times. If I lost to her I would have equipped Silkspear but it wasn't needed.It was one of the more fun fights for me.>>722359916I've seen a ton of whinging about it.
>>722359710She fights like flying enemies - she stays out of your range 90% of the time until your patience wears thin and you make a mistake.
>>722359710They got impatient and kept trying to force the battle instead of dodging her pins and waiting for her to swoop in. She also has a surprising amount of HP for how evasive she is.
>>722354347she will say this and then spare the baby queen fly
>>722360415She's not a jew
>not a fetish game btw
disgraced chef lugoli keeps kicking my ass...but i want that needle upgrade...
Any thoughts on the beast crest? Is it even worth using? The pogo kind of sucks.
>Need one more song piece>Kinda transition into end of act exploration>Find First SinnerWhat a fucking cool boss holy shit
>>722361026Swat her maggot balls away, and parry everything else.
How the fuck are there Furms in Bellheart and Sands of Karak? From what I know they don't show up in Coral tower right? So how did the bell ones get to Sands of Karak? Also, I looked at the two, and the leafy antenna guys do look like them a little. Both seem to blend in with their enviroment, their names start with an F, both have a black body with a soft shell, though the furm has fur, they have to compensate for (be it by mimicry or adopting a shell) and the ones with bells gain wings on maturity, possibly like the green guys.
>>722359553L-lewd!
>>722361128Yeah its top tier
>>722361114It's a good boss melter if you equip the right charms. Not so great for traversal.
>>722361160Wait for the VaatiVidya video explaining all the deep lore connections bro
>>722361128I've not finished the game yet, just entered the abyss, but it's my favourite fight so far.
>>722361160 Adding to this, both Verdania and Far Fields share some similar wildlife, both in the bonehoppers and the clovers tags, though they may be somewhat anatomically different, both are prey items, both have similarly long necks and both also have tails. Another species are those little flying guys, whom both have plant-related names, and also live in groups.
>>722347269I still haven't beaten the game. The pacing goes to absolute shit once you get to act 3 and all that sense of exploration and progression gets completely thrown out the window and the game just becomes "find the next boss in an area you've already explored".
>>722361114Haven't even tried it to be honest but I've seen it being used to great effect in some boss fights. Probably not a crest you want to wander around with tho.I mostly use Hunter/Wanderer and I might occasionally switch to Reaper or Architect when I feel like it.
>>722359012Personally I hate the track. Makes my ears bleed.
>>722361857Filtered to fuck by kino design
https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/427bros.....
>>722354032For some unknown reason, this was the hardest boss in the game for. I could notice as I was fighting, that he was actually easy, but I died and died and died. I dont know what was wrong with me that day. Lost Lace took me about 10 tries. I lost count with this stupid fat mother fucker.
>>722361915(You)
This is a caterpillar.
A C K CK
>>722362658?
Where the fuck even is First Sinner
>>722362658Why don't you pay the Hades 2 thread a visit, since the protag of that game is an actual slut?
>>722362776In the Slab, very well hidden. Theres a small room on one of the bottom floors that has a chest and not much else, but you can get up to a hidden path in the ceiling.
Why is there even an end credit for beating act 2?
>>722341327Generals are supposed to go to >>>/vg/
>>722362807>the protag of that game is an actual slut?Based
>>722362776More than half of the game is hidden behind secret walls and ceilings. Make it a habit to hit every surface and walk and jump into every surface.
>>722362880Do I need any keys?
>>722342380>butterfly in the opening is actually a deus ex machina
>>722362658Dense motherfuckers. The actual problem with this stupid meme is that it was never funny.On and on, she is whore this, suck bugs. Fucking dense and boring. Humilliate bitches all you want, insult whores, sure, I dont care about fucking whores but this mother fucking meme was BORING!Dense motherfuckers.
>>722362807People don't care about and had no expectations for Hades 2 because it's uber-woke.
>>722362978>More than half of the game is hidden behind secret walls and ceilings.Great design.
>>722357861NTA but are we actually pretending this game is hard when wanderer and architect crest exist? Lmao.
>>722342292 Silkfly are dead bugs turned into spun silk. While I personally agree that Lace definitely breaks you out of the Soulcage at the start, I think it’s actually probably true that she didn’t need to be there to help with the mist. Lace doesn’t control the Silkfly, her music does. Once you learn Needolin, Hornet can. This is how the Mist works out for you. As for Lace springing you from the cage, I think it was because her only chance to meet you kinda requires you escape. The bugs taking you to GMS at game start might not have stopped for her, as her mother’s control of those bugs would usurp hers. She breaks you out, probably fully expecting to be your match in deep docks. We know she’s wrong, but she only knows of Hornet through rough reputation.
>>722363304>because it's uber-woke.So is Silksong.
>>722341327fuaaark
>>722363346This but unironically. I like how the game's not afraid to go "You wanna fight this cool as shit boss? Find this breakable wall, bitch"Few devs have the balls nowadays.
>>722363432
>>722363549>Few devs have the balls Silksong is full of shit other devs have gotten super cowardly about. Love it.
>>722347272>Bardoon thinks otherwise iirc.No, Bardoon thinks the cast-off shell is the PK's former body.
>>722363414>She breaks you outHornet is the one who does Threadstorm though, right? Dumb bitch could have just waited until she was in the Citadel to break out.
>>722363014I can't remember, sorry man
>>722343446I mean was it really the pale king that treated them like shit?>Multiple mounds are allowed to exist within close proximity to the heart of hallownest>two snail shamans that we know of are still alive and have no bad things to say>one shaman died of old age, one died by fucking with crystals and a final one that died a long time ago had a high value grave>the only shaman actively punished is in the soul sanctum which notably went against the pale kings wishes and did illegal experiments
>>722362235>I lost count with this stupid fat mother fucker.I didn't though. I sat for 2.5 hours on this faggot, 1.5 on one day, and 1 on the next. In theory he is so easy, but it is justsofuckinglong.Could be an upgrade issue though.
>>722362549absolute unit
>>722344223good meme
>>722364208Hornet really is a shallow bitch huh
>>722356161I don't get why people say Nyleth is a bad boss. I thought she was one of the most unique bosses in the game. Sure, she wasn't difficult, but Seth was. I had way more fun against Nyleth than Clover Dancers (too easy) or Karmelita (too hard).
I heard an update was scheduled for today. Is this just bugged?
GUYS I FOUND THE FAT FUCK FLEA
How the fuck do I beat tormented trobbio? I feel like I'm on the cusp of a seizure fighting him.
>>722358141Hornet doesn't love Lace, she loves her brothers' fat cocks.
>>722363549Hollow Knight had that too. You got to Nosk through a breakable wall. The Junk Pit is also hidden behind a breakable wall. Sure when the DLC dropped everyone knew there's something to look for but if you played HK after TC was done with it completely blind then it's pretty easy to completely miss the entirety of Godhome. Same goes for the Grimm troupe.The Hive is also hidden and the primary hint to there being an actual hidden area is also fairly hidden. Oh and the Failed Champion is also hidden.
>>722364457I'm a little surprised there wasn't more cosmetic stuff in the game like different outfits or accessoriesYeah it would have taken a lot of work animating everything but they had enough time and it would have been really nice to have more shit to find.
>>722363873Two snail shamans? Isn't there just one?
>>722360036She's not immortal, just long lived. She's only half Pale Wyrm.
>>722364642Nevermind, just got gud.
Finished at 98% completion, 46 hours. I don't really like the game, feels very weak as a metroidvania and the exploration feels annoying since every room is extremely wide to accommodate Hornet's faster speed
>>722363014You need the Key of Apostate from Groal the Great in Bilewater.
>>722353621Gigavaxxed.
>>722364968>just got gudyou will beat the game
>>722347740could it be argued that the knight is that new body since the kings mark is now making his people see him as "king"?
i did everything to get to act 3 but now im supposed to find all the fleas? come on now
>>722365217you just need most of them, not all
>>722364642>>722364968It took me less time to beat Tormented Trobbio than regular Trobbio because I spent 3 hours fighting Karmelita just prior. I unlocked Ultra Instinct from fighting that ant cunt and just dogged Tormented Trobbio with no problems. When you beat the hardest boss in the game, the rest become much easier.
>>722364457This could have been super cool. Would pay for this content.
I'm taking a break. I believe I did all Act 2 bosses save for Garmond who I didn't realize isn't able to be fought once you get all melodies, got all mask shards, got all spool fragments, and now need one more flea, the Silkshot from one of the people who make it, and then need to get the remaining items from the architect. Didn't get all the memory lockets, but I think I got all the crests I want to use for the end game fully unlocked anyways. Act 3 sounds mostly shorter, so that'll be nice.
>>722356862>Reminder that GMS did nothing wrongShe just came to Pharloom and took over all the kingdoms that were already there
>>722365541I mean, so did Pale King, but Pale King didn't also mind control everyone and was by all accounts a good ruler. No one tried to rebel against him, and he tried diplomacy when it came to the outlying kingdoms (bees, spiders, mantises)
>>722362235That boss cannot be pogoed on, has a giant hitbox and its main attack is just swaying from side to side. It is almost as if he was designed to be as awkward to fight as possible with 50% of the damage just coming from him moving into you
>>722341327>AI slop
So was the Radiance a physical being before being locked in the Dream World? I can't remember all the details.
>>722365791All Pale Beings seem to have the ability to manifest themselves within dreams. Pale King and Hornet both do it too. Radiance's physical form was killed and she was trapped in gay baby jail inside Hollow Knight, but she was still able to manifest the Orange Fanta that infected everyone in the kingdom from inside the Hollow Knight, planning on getting Hollow Knight killed so she could manifest back out in the physical world.
why is there a hollow knight update?
>>722365791i don't think sothe moths were a tribe obsessed with dreams and they worshipped the Radiance before the whole feud with the Pale King
>>722365672I used to think Hallownest encroaching into Deepnest with the tram and stag station and shit was a sign of PK maybe not knowing where he's unwelcome but in hindsight it seems like Herrah was keeping the peace because she really wanted that pale dong and then only after she was out of the picture did all the other Deepnest denizens rebel and wreck shit.
>>722365672The mind controlling came way later, by the time of the haunting you can't really blame GMS. First there was GMS and the Weavers ruling over Pharloom, then the Weavers betrayed her, lulled her to sleep and built up the citadel to keep her in slumber. Then they realised when she wakes up she was going to kick their shit in, so they fled and left the citadel to be ruled by the bugs. In an attempt at attaining eternal life those bugs started surgically putting silk in themselves so when everything started being made of silk that's when GMS was able to start the haunting from within her slumber.
>>722365979Unity exploit.
>>722366109This is mostly correct but I think the order of events has the Weavers starting the whole "let's put silk inside everyone to keep them working forever" plan and then the Haunting was their big wakeup call that the whole plan was gonna fail.
So..i just finished this festival and i broke the thingy and i didn't loot any money because the guy spoke to me and they just vanished. Is that normal? I only got the oil
>Hollow Knight: Steelstorm MC revealed in first game
>>722366109the background lore for pharloom somehow sounds overconvoluted and uninteresting at the same time
>>722357758>get all those high quality very rare ingredient>he makes slop jelly out of ithonestly i am kinda mad even if thats literally the gag
>>722366213Didn't the Haunting start because GMS is trying to free herself of her cocoon?
>>722366379>he took off the money magnetoh no
>>722366464i equipped Wanderer for the challenge and since tools don't work i didn't put anything on it
>>722363432Literally how?
>>722365791It's not confirmed but I doubt it.I think there are 3 types of Higher Beings.Of course you have the Pale Beings, then you have ones like Unn who seem to be lesser than them and then you have ones that only exist in the dream world like the Radiance and the Nightmare Heart who seem to be above the Pale Beings but can't truly manifest in the physical world, like how the Nightmare Heart needs Grimm as a vessel.And then the void is like the primordial chaos.
>game is an overall improvement over HK when it comes to NPCs and the interactions with said characters>The Hollow Knight equivalent (Lace) is by far the worst character within the main cast by virtue of having too little screentime and being too evil with few redeeming qualities, when the climax of the game is centered around saving herLace should be thankful she's a cute girl with some very cool bossfights because otherwise nobody would give a shit. I understand what Team Cherry was going for, but the character is way too underbaked for me to have an attachment to her. They managed to make me care about Sherma, Garmond, Shakra, Pilby, Second Sentinel, even Styx and the fucking Green Prince... so why is Lace such a blunder?
I really don't like the fact how there's supposedly such a massive story problem of GMS being but to sleep and not being able to wake up of her own volition, but Hornet just walks up and shouts GARAMA and the GMS is then awake.Yes you can give me some lore reasons that Hornet is a weaver so her taunt has special properties that can awaken a higher being or some shit, I don't care. As it currently works in the game, it feels like the problem of GMS not being able to wake up is a total farce because Hornet just shouts at her and she wakes up. It's a clumsy bit of continuity.
>>722366840Hornet just wanted her own thousand year old loli and I respect that. But on a more serious note; she is a mirror to the Knight. Born out of the whims of a literal god and unloved all the same; whereas the Knight found his purpose in ending what his father started, Lace merely let the status quo go forever, for she is silk and she cannot go against the source of her life.
>>722366109Wrong.>Pharloom, and the Citadel, existed before GMS>Weavers "betrayed" her because she was evil and mind controlling others>First Sinner is the one who started the rebellion>Weavers built the Weavenests so they could conspire against GMS>The Chorus was started as a way to keep her asleep and had to be continuously sung to keep her asleep, thus the need for the Conductors
>>722366840It feels like they expected the character design of Lace to do the heavy lifting, but neglected to give her presence or tragedy. Lace's tragedy was mommy issues and being made of silk, which are some quite easy-peasy problems to have compared to what 99% of other bugs in Pharloom go through.So her problems end up seeming superficial which doesn't help if the character's main traits seem to be "brat who takes so long between her appearances that you almost forget she's in the game"
>>722367027Stupid dumb smelly Lesbiatrannies. Hornet isn't fluffy and her and Lace aren't lesbians.
>>722367123Really telling how trooners keep making art of a being whos thousands and thousands of years old and a silk brat who has the BODY and MIND of a CHILD
>>722367027Yuri game
>>722366840My only real issue is the game doesn't feel as atmospheric. There's a couple of nice areas, but Hollow Knight felt more pleasant to explore. Don't know if it's because there's more focus on mechanical stuff, and the Citadel is such a big focus, but Hollow Knight had a lot of spots you could just sit in and appreciate for a bit.
>>722367385you're advocating for a timeline where Hornet is a pedophile
>see Hollow Knight reddit postLol
>>722367206>>722367456Nice
>>722367052Now this is fanfiction>Pharloom, and the Citadel, existed before GMSThe old kingdoms of Pharloom existed, the citadel didn't. Under GMS it was a city of stone with an ascetic culture, the weavers turned into the metal dystopia we see, outright stated by the mask maker.>Weavers "betrayed" her because she was evil and mind controlling othersNope. We know why they turned against GMS, and it's not a noble reason. "...She called us daughters... Called us divine... She lied..." They thought they were truly divine beings, then they found out they were just uplifted bugs and not that different to the bugs they ruled over, that's the reasons presented and nothing beyond that. From there they then sealed GMS, ruled Pharloom themselves and made it far worse. Now we don't know the exact line between what's the result of the weavers, and what was done by the bugs after, but the mask maker doesn't paint a pretty picture of the weavers.
>>722366985Again, I do like the foundation they were working with - but as it stands, Lace feels one-dimensional next to a lot of characters. The game does make me pity her, but it doesn't convey the same sentiment of finally saving THK the original game carried at all (whose situation was way better emphasized by the narrative despite having no dialogue or barely any characterization to speak of). Hornet essentially has to save her because it's the only way she can save Pharloom itself without GMS throwing a tantrum and ruining everything once and for all.
People have mentioned that the Hunters march is a "midgame area", but strictly speaking these people are retarded. It's where you get the dash. Which a standard player needs to do Shellwood and and wormways, as well as accessing sinners road.How is that indicative of an area you explore "later?"
>>722352139Which fight?
In my steel soul speedrun I just saved Bellhart, and I'm at 1 h 30, I plan now to go to the exhaust organ, am I goint too slow?Also should I take a detour to upgrade my hunter crest? And should I go to hunter's march to buy the fractured mask?
>>722367869You don't get the dash in Hunter's March, you get it in upper Deep Docks and you only need to pop into Hunter's March for a quick gauntlet before dropping back down. The rest of Hunter's March is best left for later for the average first-time player.
>>722366839>then you have ones like Unn who seem to be lesserI don't know, man.>Pale King is (allegedly) able to give sentience to feral bugs>GMS can imbue bugs with her silk and "ascend" them and I guess she can create life out of her silk but she doesn't seem to be able to do it on a large scale>the White Lady likes to breed>Unn literally creates an entire race/species out of her dreamTo me it seems like big Slug has them beat pretty bad.
>>722367869There is not a single necessary item in Hunter's March
Buff GMS.>but cursed endingDon't care. Too easy, buff her now.
https://x.com/shibachabry/status/1974155678915965064It's up
>>722366985>she is a mirror to the Knight..how?The Knight despite probably having a mind/will doesn't emote or speak ever. It's one of hundreds/thousands like it, vessels purpose-built to suffer/struggle/self-sacrifice so other bugs would not have to. Designed as a tool meant to stop a kingdom from falling into ruin. But the Knight specifically ended up being a truly free entity that outgrew what the Pale King wanted from it while also having its own will that diverged from what the Void wants. It usually has a clear plan of what it wants to accomplish, and isn't particularly whimsical or prone to changing its mind.Lace is a hyper-emotive bug that acts purely on contrarian instinct and changes her mind every 10s. She's not a purpose-built tool or an entity, she's completely unique and was created because a Higher Being wanted to have a child. Unlike the Knight, the circumstances of Lace's creation end up being something that traps her forever because she's dependent on Silk which she cannot produce herself.Apart from being "artificial" creatures that weren't born normally like other bugs, how are the Knight and Lace alike? I don't see it.
>>722367869>It's where you get the dasht. didnt play the game
So Hornet is the result of a spider fucking a worm?
>>722368212Its a direct reward for beating the second arena in Hunters March, how could it be how you get it?
>>722368273Herrah wanted a child and dogeza'd before the Pale King for a child, under the agreement that she'd become a dreamer later
Can I get a hint on where this is?
>>722366985>Born out of the whims of a literal god and unloved all the sameSaid God was bargained by Hornet's mother to give her a divine child in exchange of her sacrifice. The Pale King had no love for Hornet but that is because she was just payment for a deed needed done.
>>722368337Go up
>>722368273Hornet is the result of a spider that was engineered to be a powerful sentient creature by a silk god fucking a reincarnated worm god
https://x.com/AnnoyingRoach22/status/1973999834131493016Wtf is real? I thought you guys were bullshitting me
>>722368337Cradle act 3.
>>722364989>/akg/ invasionYeah same. I only beat this game because I was stubborn.
>>722368170>She's not a purpose-built tool or an entity>Now here's the exact purpose she was built forThey're all just tools and victims of higher beings whims
>>722368337Do you need a hand to find it?
>>722368412every enemy will get stunned by the needolin and give dialog
>>722368328see >>722367982
>>722368337only in Act 3, located where Act 2 ends
>>722368328red: early gamegreen: midgame
>>722368486The crying.
>>722368501ThatsThats act 3 dude
I'm kind of tempted to take Pharloom's map and put screenshots on it of all the places Hornet falls to or wakes up on the ground, or CAN (via save & quit)there's a lot, and it would be funny to me
>>722367206She's well beyond the age of consent, officer.
>>722368573ok you pedantic faggotred>early gamegreen>midgameblue>lategame
>>722368754
>>722366845I thought the whole point was that she was going to wake up sooner or later anyway, hence the rapidly deteriorating environment around Pharloom, and the Haunting getting worse. This is completely my own interpretation though so I'm probably wrong.
>>722368754>>722368779retard
Is there any actual lore for the Needolin? You just randomly get it after Widow (Hornet suddenly remembers that strings can make music?) and it seems to take control of the haunted silk.
>>722343130Honest attempt, Phil. My failed attempts got nowhere near this close.
>>722368014>the White Lady likes to breedalways cracks me up
>>722367869I see it like this: The big motherfucker is clearly there to brickwall you if you haven't got the dash yet. You can technically beat him without it but you're supposed to get frustrated and come back later. Then you've got the updrafts deeper in so you might not have the Drifter's Cloak yet but they made it partly doable without it if you're good at pogoing (still can't access Chapel of the Beast though). Also if you go there before progressing too much you've got Shakra to help you out.So it feels kinda intended for early-mid Act 1. And you need at least Drifter's Cloak to fully explore it.
>>722368412hmm... this audio has potential...
>>722358071She'd already met him before>>722358067She mentions at least in the convo with the ant merchant that she knows several languages + The Knight needed a charm to understand Mister Mushroom (Hornet does not)
>>722368625i'd stare at the resulting image for some minutes and maybe say "neat". do it.
There is a keyhole in whiteward? Where is the key to open it? Any hint?
>>722369386In Whiteward. Secret false-ceiling on the East end of Whiteward
>>722369386inside the whiteward
>>722369386it's in one of the shittier hidden areas. It's a "through the ceiling" area, also in Whiteward
>>722369386Look out for a shaft of light in one of the narrow passages (I think they're air vents?)
>>722353621Z O N K E D
>>722364938pretty sure she is immortal, and if that specific word isn't used I do know that she is separated from "mortal" bugs more than once
>>722368212>t. didnt play the gamet. didn't power through hunters march early onit will also lead you to the dash if you manage to get through it.In fact, you can also completely skip and MISS the first lace fight if you get to bellhome through wormways instead, entirely skipping far fields.You get a special encounter where she taunts you but decides to not fight you just before Bellhomesource: i went that bozo route on my first playthrough because i bumrushed the key and wanted to go where i don't belong
>>722368170devs made up their mind in advance that hornet should save lace because they want hornet and lace to be a duo (not necessarily romantically, but a duo)it doesn't end up working well and to try and remedy that, the devs tried to force a parallel between lace and vessels (it doesn't work)
>>722364208>TFW too much of a lorelet to get this
>>722369979it still isn't, dash is literally in deep docks regardless of how you get in there
>>722369886Bug guro? In my comfy bug thread? >:(
>>722369886drawn by a femcel
>>722361160 One more thing that I realized: the bone guys are also related to the other guys. All the bugs here have these traits in common: black bodies, four legs and using mimicry. Additionally, all but the coral furm seem to have the potential for wings, be it via another creature closely related to them, like the skull scuttler and the skullwing, the fertid and it's flapping variant and the furm and it's adult counterpart. The skull guys seem to be a basal form for these, as they have share characteristics with all of them. They have an adult stage similar to the coral furm, and a massive form, similar to the bell furm, they can fly and seem to be the apex of the marrow, so I suppose it stands to reason the range in which species descended from them can be found is so vast. Perhaps there were more before the citadel came, but there are still many to this day. Kind of funny how I wrote a fucking bible on trash mobs.
>>722368073if they really insist on it they can just have her hp lower while cursed
