HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THIS
You were rewarded for being a kid playing around with the canon
>>722353089I was a kid and played around with the canon and never found this so that just proves its fucking random chance theyre relying on you to stumble into it on a very low likelyhood.
>>722353362You didn't get the star. A lot of people didn't.
>>722352831Buy the strategy guide.
I seem to recall being like 7 years old and accidentally misfiring the cannon into that corner and being super surprised at what happened
>>722353625this. the idea behind the game is not that you rush through and 100% it. the idea is that you treat it as a toybox, enjoy the act of playing in it in and if itself, and if you keep at it, eventually defeat bowser. your natural childhood curiosity would sometimes lead to you discovering secrets, which are all the sweeter when you do find them. a much smaller percentage of players would get all the stars, which was perfectly fine.also, only one kid in your friend group actually needs to figure it out. passing around secrets through word of mouth was part of the fun.
>>722352831the name of the star is the hint, retard.
>>722352831I know this is bait, but>"Blast Away The Wall">There's a cannon that points you at the wall when you enter it>You can even blast away the wall on the other sideTechnology
You don't have to get all the stars to beat the game.
>>722352831I don't remember how I found out but I did in fact find it when I was six years old OP.
>>722352831read, nigger, read
>>722354407>Blast away the wallthat doesnt help retard, i mean, the level is full of walls
>>722354660You can only target a limited number of walls with the cannon, numbnuts.
>>722353089>>722354319Really shows how times have changed. These days no one has the patience or time to mess around in a game for that long. People rarely mess around in games at all, they just move on to the next achievement or the next progress bar. You can see it with puzzles too. Some game puzzles used to be so tricky or unpredictable that they were just too hard for kids, so you had things like GameFAQs or else you would just be stuck for hours. No studio will risk that anymore, every puzzle will have been carefully streamlined to ensure the optimum pass-rate among playtesters.
>BLAST away the WALL>game teaches me about cannons in bob-omb battlefield>game specifies a wall>only cannon in level can only shoot so many objects>the easiest to shoot walls are right next to me>the wall closest to me doesn't have the star, but it can still be destroyed>try it on the other wall>get starthat's how I remember doing it as a kid, anyway
>>722352831>>722353362>>722353625>>722354319>>722354407>>722354450>>722354660>>722354914It's also literally in the credits with the wall blasted away and the star sat there, if you didn't get it, it's not blue
>>722354737you still have to test those walls, and many points in those walls, so?
How was I supposed to know to walk into the castle?
>>722353362No you didn't, you destroy the wall on the left just by shooting anywhere near the top, destroying that corner of the wall.Naturally you're gonna try and shoot into the other wall.
>>722352831The actual answer is that the translation sucks dick. The original said "Blast (it) away using the cannon!" (たいほうでぶっこわせ!)
>>722354914Kids used to play video games.They just watch them, now.
>>722356160>Peach baked a cake for (You)>Peach's CASTLE>In Paper Mario 64, you find out where the kitchen is in the castle so when you go back to SM64 you know exactly where to go to obtain the cakeKinda rude they expected you to play a game that came out 5 years later
>>722356485Blast WHAT away using the cannon
>>722356760(it)But seriously, it would be much easier to find out on the JP because it at least specifies that you should use the cannon.
>>722352831I watched my dad figure this out in 1996 and he didn't really struggle with it at all. The mission is called blast away the wall and there is only one cannon on the entire map, which is obviously something that is used for blasting. Plus you can only target a small number of walls with the angle the cannon is placed at.
>>722353089Terrible boomer excuse
>>722356160Nice try the second you start it tells you to go towards the castle
>>722358104How was I supposed to know the letter at the beginning of the game was actually from Peach and not Bowser trying to trick me?
>>722358925Because Bowser wouldn't invite you to stop him ADOIIIIII
>>722353089ThisGames used to reward people who had childlike fun with games
>>722356932"Blast" is used in Jolly Roger Bay and Tall Tall Mountain to describe other cannon stars, it's very easy to figure out if you leave the Whomp's one for later
>>722354450Maybe I'm misremembering, but isn't there also a crease in the texture of the wall where it can be blasted off? Or is that just something that's more visible on an emulator?
>>722365783Yes. Native AA at native res is what hides all of those one-pixel gaps all over Whomp's and any alteration will make them visible. You can even see the star itself straight through it.
>>722354885we have lots of games todaywe had few games back then
>>722352831read the gameFAQ
I got an N64 in Christmas 1996 with Mario 64. I didn’t get every star in Mario 64 until early 1998, I beat the game a day or two after getting it but there were several stars that I didn’t find because I didn’t know about them and I went to play other stuff. I’d come back to the game and fuck around a lot, that’s how I got the 100 coin stars and all that. I remember the last star I got was the slide speedrun star, my friend told me about that one. Anyway moral of the story, 100% wasn’t that important back then and you were expected to get it over time rather than right after you beat the game or whatever. Star Fox 64 took me forever to 100% and I played that game more times than I can count. Of course there were guides too, we’d share guides for stuff like Super Metroid since some of those missile tanks were just in random spots.
>>722352831Why was Mario so fucking fat in this game?
>>722356160>Boot up game>Immediately jump off to since season gamers know there is always a secret behind the waterfall>No secret. Drown because the game hasn't properly taught me swimming controls.
>>722368149Always been fat
now how the fuck were you supposed to know this?
>>722368662Same cope arguments being used for Blast Away The Wall>Name of the Star (US only)>You didn't just have fun as a kid? (Punching walls like it's Metal Gear 1)>You don't NEED every starIf stars emitted sounds like in the Green Stars hack (and every game afterwards) then everything would be fine.
>>722352831I somehow figured it out by accident.
>>722368662Teehee good luck
>>722352831having friends, someone was bound to stumble over it and tell the others
>>722358104>>722358925>>722356160How were you supposed to know to not scram and not come back?
>>722369452I really miss the element of mystique you would get from hearing playground rumors about games before everyone had the internet. Now shit is data mined and drained of all mystery within the first couple of days.
>>722369659By being BRAVE numbnutsIt was a great filter for everyone back in the 90s. Are you as head fast and strong as Mario? Take charge and face the danger? Or did you wet your pants and cry for milkie milk? Then head home kid, you don't deserve to experience this 3D AdventureSimple as
>>722369773But Mario himself is a strong pants-wetting advocate.
>>722369929Not yet he's not
HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW THISYou have to perform a fricking pagan ritual to get this star.
>>722368662If this was sunshine, this would take you to a sub area inside the tower that would take you to a giant floatiing pizza in space where you had to get 8 red coins by jump on pepperoni platforms over molten lava tomato sauce while the slices are slowly being taken behind you as this song is playing in the background:https://youtu.be/1YWLBZCxL8s?si=40aLdEdbRzecieee
>>722368149ravioli, you would know that if you'd played the game
>>722353625I did.
>>722353625I did. I barely remember how since I played it when it came out. Think it was by accident though.
Just remembered Talkatooah and became mad at myself for using him and at Nintendo for creating him.
how were you supposed to find luigi?
>>722370096>Momma mia
The problem here is that the game didn't bait you into aiming for something near that corner.All broken walls should be designed in a way that the world's layout would eventually make you likely to accidentally run into it.Games where the only way to find hidden walls is to attack everything is bad game design.
>>722370527>He pressed the A buttonIt's easily done with half an A press dumb dumb
>>722376225>NOOOO WHY DID BOWSER HIDE THE STAR FROM MARIO REALLY WELLthat's you
>>722368081You suck faggot
I literally just now learned about this and I beat the game on both n64 and 3ds.Its an optional star you shit.
>>722352831>>722353625"Blast away the wall" is a pretty big hint.
>>722368081You rock bro
>>722370527There's a clear indentation there.
>>722376225Finna need a source desu
People used to talk on the playground all day.I remember being stuck on Ganon in Ocarina for 3 weeks until someone's older brother told me you can roll through his legs.
>>722354407>Blast away the wall>level is full of walls
>>722378287>enemies in the level are also literal walls
>>722352831>>722378287There's only one cannon and a couple walls within range of it. Zoomers did not inherit the ability to troubleshoot basic problems it seems.
>>722352831I think I found this myself just fucking around.The one thing I was stuck on was the wing cap, I never thought to keep looking up into the light until a cousin told me.Back when this came out you would be constantly outside playing with other kids, chances were they needed help with a segment in their game or could help you by sharing information you didn't know.It was a fun time.
>>722352831Context clues
Most walls in view of the cannon are at a sharp angle. The requisite wall is the most flat iirc, and eventually you're going to shoot the corner if you aren't lucky enough to see the seam prior.
>>722378845I figured it out, and imma dumbass...........You nu gamers just don't experiment with things
>>722378967Playing the game is more than just following an arrow or yellow paint, y'know?
>>722379051Immerse yourselves
>>722378626ALL the walls are within range fumbo dork
wait, there was a *game* inside the cool-looking box? how were you supposed to know?
>>722354885>These days no one has the patience or time to mess around in a game for that long. People rarely mess around in games at all, they just move on to the next achievement or the next progress bar.Mostly agree, but BOTW and TOTK are two modern games that go against this opinion
There's only two walls by the canon. They don't tell you to hit the corner of the wall though
>>722352831If you are at the top of that wall and walk near it, you can clearly see a diagonal outline that looks completely out of place. It's clear that there was something in there.
>>722354885You cannot do this in a really large player space without the issue of finding becoming something incredibly low. There are only like, 8 walls to hit from the perspective of the cannon in that level.
>>722353362Bro I missed fucking snowman's land for months. I also had NO idea jumping into wet dry world's painting changed the water level. I remember as a kid struggling to get snowmans lost head in level 4
>>722354885We need that concept back. Easy Mode fags must never be appeased.
I hadn't touched this game since ~2003 until letting my kid try it as her first game a few days ago man this game is fucking comfy. I got a used copy as a kid and it had a 120 star save, I considered that guy a video game god and a living legend and I never deleted his save off my copy to this day
>>722379231Your mom told you when she bought it for youBAM
>>722380491Based dad
Do you get any hint about this?
zoomers need a side character to tell them "Nyan try shooting the corner of the wall nyan!" these days
>>722380726I feel like one of the sign posts or toads in the castle mention a secret in the room
>>722352831Anon, you needed to check the other side.
>>722380843Like Navi?
>>722379728>>722381348>Yellow arrows.I hate when devs treat you like a retard, UGH.
>>722381348AIEEEE IT'S THE YELLOW PAINT VIRUS
>>722381348I'm kinda fucked up, I looked at these two enemies and thought they were kinda hot. Like is there any porn of them?
>>722381823Did you play Conkers Bad Fur Day?
>>722380491Have you gave her other 3d platformers? What does she think of 2d games? I'm curious to know what your average kid would think about them now.
>>722381983she's too young to actually play it properly (she's only about to turn 3) she's just learning the basic controls right now and getting used to running and jumping at the same time and navigating a little she's played m64, Pokémon art academy, and Pokémon alpha sapphire as for 2d I haven't had her try any yet but once she's older I'm gonna show her Megaman X which is what really got me into vidya as a kid
>>722381962No but I should cause that pic is hot too
>>722383534https://m.youtube.com/shorts/K4Y6sr4mglk
how were you supposed to know to look up at the light?
>>722384034Because it appears out of nowhere so you would look up
I don't know how you were supposed to know, but somehow little kid-me figured it out. >late 90's, no internet, no computerPeople wonder how we knew how to jump into the paintings and I'll tell you that they showed us in the TV commercial. They had like 5 different clips of mario jumping and backflipping into paintings so I was eager to try it myself.
This one is for realHow was I supposed to know there was an extra start in here?
>>722352831THE FUCKING INTRO OF THE STAGE LITERALLY TEL YOU THISITS CALLED BLAST AWAY THE WALL
>>722384478I replayed it because the slide level was fun.
>>722384595>Esl
>>722352831Isnt the name of the level chip off the big block or something like that?
>>722352831>there's a stage literally called "blast the wall">there's a cannon that you can open by talking to a pink bobomb>there's only a couple of walls that you can really smack into from the cannon
>>722356760Kys you helpless faggot.
>>722384783He's right
>>722377315I remember the review of the game in N64 magazine, which had previously reviewed the original Japanese version, had the reviewer disappointed in how handholdy and full of hints the game was. He had previously beaten the nip version without knowing nip and had thus been forced to find all the stars without any kind of hint towards where they might be or what they might involve, and he found that to be a lot more fun.
>>722381191The poster in that very room talks about a hidden star located in it.
>>722384478The sign at the start of the level tells you, though the wording is a bit confusing and weird. Might've been more clear in nip.
>>722384034my friend Katelyn who lived down the street told me. She also let me play Cool Spot on her SNES
>>722384034This one is legit one a lot of people missed. Did the DS remake make it more obvious what you had to do here?
average nintendo hater, couldn't get 120 stars in Mario 64 (through emulation because his parents couldn't afford more than one console) and now complains its shit
>>722386827>ESL
>>722378458I read "literal" as "liberal" itp
The seam is so obviously visible when passing through the area that only a brainlet wouldn't combine knowledge of the existence of the seam with the name of the star to at least attempt to shoot it once.
Nintendo lost
>>722352831I love Render 96.
>>722352831the sign at the base of the big pole tells you to climb to the top and look around. If you do you can spot the star, even if the wall hasn't been broken
>>722390569Same, it's pretty fun
>>722390717What the fuuuuuck
>>722353089You didn’t know about this until you read a guide be fr unc
>>722352831Boomer's idea of game design is slamming into every wall like a retard until something happens
>>722391692Better than yellow paint
>>722352831Word of mouth between other kids playing it. Now everything is datamined and spoiled instantly these days
>>722352831you heard it from someone who heard it from someone else who saw it on TV, the ancient internet or read it from a strategy guide.game developers would see no problem with hiding knowledge for a long time and now we've come to a point where most games expect nothing out of you, nothing at all.
>>722391929Most games nowadays have the entire playthrough up and ready before the game even comes out
What about the one where you jump in the tree to reveal the owl and then hold on to get the star? What was the name of that star?
>>722390717Something has been lost to time with Mario 64. A lot of basic knowledge has been erased, known only to oldfag sages, yet the mechanical skill of players has increased exponentially. It's to the point where SM64 has retconned itself, and the game is not actually what it was made to be, but an endlessly reinterpreted version of what players expect - shaped, molded, and recontextualized through decades of speedrunning and video essays. How many players even know you can monkey bar under this bridge? If you were born in the 90's it was probably the first thing you did.
>>722392113"jump in the tree to reveal the owl and then hold on" iirc
>>722392225Seems a little long winded
Wait, did people NOT figure this out by accident with only 2-3 stars in the level? The one that sucked was the cage.
>>722392139I used to love hanging under that bridge as a kid. Man, the whole game seemed so huge and fun back then
back then>HOLY FUCK THERE WAS AN ENTIRE COURSE I DIDNT KNOW ABOUT HIDDEN IN THE MIRROR ROOM. THIS SHIT IS LITERALLY INFINITE IT'S THE GREATEST VIDEO GAME EVER MADEnow>WHAT THE FUCK WHY DIDN'T THE GAME TELL ME THERE WAS A SECRET LEVEL IN THE SECRET ROOM. YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT SECRETS ARE INDEED SECRET? THIS SHIT IS LITERAL LUDOKINONARRATIVEBUZZWORD DISSONANT AND UNPLAYABLE OUTDATED GARBAGE
>>722392113Jumping into that tree and then up onto the higher platform became the standard way to navigate out of the starting area for pretty much everyone. It's pretty clever design to put that owl in there.
>>722352831I saw it clip through the wall when I flew over it with the owl.
>>722352831My dad told me about it.
>>722391551Could easily be emulation errors. The whole webm looks like its tearing
>>722352831I actually got this one as a kid. Pure accidental fuckery of trying yo shoot myself up there.
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>>722352831IThe star I'd called a chip off the old block
>>722353089Fpbp>>722354885Thats a good point. I rarely "play" when I play. I remember just pretending to be a pirate on the shitty eel level. Now I just rush through.
>>722384034This one legitimately fucked me playing through it the first time. It's actually bullshit and you can't convince me otherwise.
>>722386767Pressing one of the face buttons like jump would trigger a dialogue box saying>Hey, Mario...while angling towards the light's origin.
>>722353089>>722352831Both untrue. The long edge of the corner polygon is literally visible
>>722390717>>722391551>>722395832I just tested it on real hardware. It actually works. The breakable walls disappear but the resolution is too crappy to identify the star.
>>722352831Now try playing something like Ultima
>>722352831
>>722352831I found it on accident because I moved the camera past the wall and saw inside
>>722356160you didn't
>>722384034Was that really not the first instinct once you saw it?
>>722381512Some concessions do have to be made to the actual retards and first-timers, else you don't make the big bucks.
>>722372024Galaxy would have the same thing but instead of it being a sub-area, you'd have a launch star inside the tower that would break away the ceiling and have the giant pizza be a planet that you could see floating in space the whole time wondering how you get there.Ah and replace the red coins with silver stars
>>722356760If you can't get it based on that hint, you've been filtered by a star that 7 year olds figured out.
>>722368662Same way you were supposed to know that breaking some blocks in castlevania has chicken in them. You fucking don't and if you stumbled across it, you were rewarded. There was no star, only a 1-Up which doesn't affect completion at all. Devs removed the star because they didn't add any hints and left it as purely a coincidental thing.
>>722384034Odyssey has a moon in reference to this but i failed figuring it out at first despite having the idea to look up because i didn't even know there was a first person camera view in Odyssey
>>722376529>half an A press>halfYou either press it or you don’t. No such thing as half.
>pay for dlc>have no idea how to access itHOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW???
>>722368321But you get the Metal Cap from the waterfall cave!
>>722352831I was a retarded 10 year old and I figured it out. Maybe stop being gay or something.
how were you supposed to know there was a misaligned out of bounds vertex you had to avoid here?
>>722352831Because the star name tells you.
>>722392139>>722352831Mission title are hintsAlso there signs that you tell you stuff
>>722386767My first playthrough was SM64DS and it took way longer than I'd like to admit to get this. It wasn't clear at all and I only happened to look up after losing my mind getting lost figuring out how to get to that wing cap area
>>722375758>yo bro you can totally find yoshi in mario 64>fuck off you lying asshole I've played the game and done all the levels he's not in there>years pass>turns out yoshi was there the whole time>mfw
>>722352831it literally tells you to BLAST AWAY THE WALL, and you can fucking see the seam where you're supposed to do it
>>722384034Only the most faithful of us knew. Should have gone to church you heathen.
>>722409251You couldn't see the seam on old shitty CRTs.
>>722391802But some of the levels have yellow arrows pointing you towards the end of the level...
>>722409317on retroarch at 240p with a crt filter on you can still see the seam flickering, is it really not visible on real hardware
>>722352831Ah, I see — that’s a screenshot from Super Mario 64. You’re on the level Whomp’s Fortress, and Mario is doing a wall kick (wall jump) off the brick wall.This part of the game is notoriously tricky if you don’t already know the mechanic. The designers expected players to figure out the wall kick (jump toward a wall, press jump again at the right time to push off), but the game never makes it super obvious that this move is essential for progress in certain levels.So yeah — you weren’t really "supposed" to just know. Most players back in the day discovered it accidentally or by reading the manual (since the N64 manual actually explained the wall kick move).Do you want me to break down exactly how to pull this move off in that spot so you can clear it reliably?
>>722409979ok siri, shut up
>>722403346This one was never a secret, from soft straight up told you how to do it when the DLC was revealed.
>>722408567How are you supposed to know how to read the sign if the tutorial is in the sign that you can't read???
How were you supposed to know?
>>722380336same the game is fucking stupid not because of the gameplay but because it relies on literally random shit happening and you eventually figuring it out based on chance. This is why walkthorugh/advise magazines were essential but the internet replaced them.
>>722360829we have a word for that in 2025 and it's called autism
>>722410576Brother had his whimsy squeezed out of him. How do you have fun?
>>722354885>People rarely mess around in games at all, they just move on to the next achievement or the next progress bar.you can also blame modern games for that, and not just the players. very few games even have cryptic shit in them anymore so there's no incentive to explore at all.
>>722354914tbf I didn't even know you could blast away the other wall.
>>722358925from mario's perspective, he didn't even know bowser was in the castle.
>>722410729I have autism as well. fuck normies and midwits.
>>722368662there's no purpose for knowing this. lives don't even save and reset to 3 when you restart the game.
As fun as Mario 64 is, it's stars after #1 boil down to>Find star within 3 seconds>Wonder aimlessly for some random bullshit but because you found other stars along the way it doesn't feel like a time waste
>>722409979go make another 8 hour video about invisible walls
>>722352831>>722356009>>722409317>>722409404You could see the seam on a real N64, it's how I found it as a kid. It's not just an emulator artifact.
>>722352831READ THE MANUAL
I never got the final star. 100 coins in that moving clock tower level was too hard for kid me.
>>722412130Did you know to enter it on the hour?
>>722393838Trvke
>>722395926Take me BACK to 2007 pls
>>722353089you were more punished than rewarded, firing yourself out of that cannon most of the time results in a death
>>722412130That's more than I ever got as a kid. I think I peaked at like 85 or something. I remember having a lot of trouble with the upstairs levels, especially Tiny Huge Island, Wet Dry World, and Rainbow Ride. I only got the full 120 a couple of years ago.
>>722412189NTA I figured that out on accident
Alright, which courses were duds? I nominate Jolly Roger Bay and Snowman's Land, both were tedious and unfun at a certain point. Dire Dire Docks is a close third, Whomp's Fortress being fourth.
>>722415079Wet Dry World sucks Nobody likes it
>>722415816It wasn't bad, but it wasn't spectacular either.
>>722411054>Play the game and find the starsWOAH! A real shocker there. Next you're gonna tell us the game is about jumping.
>>722412130as a kid I didn't care about the 100 coin stars and just wanted to see all the levels
