Reminder when a Sonic fan tries to tell you "No, Sonic games are actually really good!" This is the type of slop that they love to eat up from Daddy Sega.This franchise is mocked for a reason.
>>722353371Except everyone agrees Forces is shit
>>722353371Literally the only good Sonic games are:Sonic 2Sonic 3&KnucklesSonic Adventure 2 (battle or not)Maybe that one Sonic Battle gameboy game.Every other Sonic game can be classified from mediocre to dogshit, and the only people claiming otherwise are retarded, furries, or have nostalgia clouding their judgement.That's not to say some of those other mediocre to trash sonic games can't have decent music.
>>722353371Sonic was never good.
There will never be a Sonic game like SA2 ever again.
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>>722353737Least generic shartlennial contrarian opinion award
>>722353371Using forces is literally cheating. You can't do that
>>722353371This is giving me Cold Steel flashbacks
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>>722353371Not a Sonic fan, but when I say he has good games I'm talking about S3K.>>722353701>Battle good>Advance badBitch
>>722353371Long ago, a japanese man came up with an idea:"Hey, what makes Mario good is the part where it has a physics engine and it's fun to syncronize the mind Mario with the real mario.So what if we make a character with a more complex model that is like a pinball game of sorts?", and thus Sonic was born, however, this japanese guy didn't wanted the imitators to succeed, so he engineered a trap.The trap is that instead of being honest on what make sonic good, the marketing would instead fully focus on the whole "speedy mascot" angle and throw everyone off the trail of the real quality of the game.And it worked, we got shit like bubsy, awesome possum, aero the acrobat... even rocket knight adventure, but this one had konami making it so it's still a good game.However, as it happens sometimes to people that strap shotguns to their front door, sega themselves forgot about the trap and fell for it.And they can't seem to be able to get out of it.
>>722353701The first Riders is great.
>>722353737Sonic was originally good
>>722353371it was easy to ignore forces happened while I was still playing mania. also hat in time came out so I didnt need to think about mario odyssey either
"LMAO SONIC SUCKS" is such a tired routine that belongs back in the 2010s. Especially since it was never true to begin with. I am happy we are now collectively moving forward and re-evaluating things, and that it's just manbaby retards stuck a decade in the past that keep trying to parrot these lines.
>>722353371Movies actually change it bigtime. It put Sonic on the radars of the kids and now it's selfrunning for the next years. Games don't matter. Jesus, Mario, Coca Cola...it's all about branding.
>>722353701>>722353701SA1? Rush? CD? Unleashed? Colors? Gens? Shadow Gens?Just to name a few.
>>722368031Sonic is still a mess with an identity crisis
>>722362357>The trap is that instead of being honest on what make sonic good, the marketing would instead fully focus on the whole "speedy mascot" angle and throw everyone off the trail of the real quality of the game.
>>722353371>A game hated by fans is the type of game fans love from Sega Huh?
Truths about the franchise>Lost World’s villains did irreparable damage to any future crossover games by virtue of their inclusion >the comic and other non-game media (excluding the paramount movies) should never have continued past 1996>CD, Advance 2, and Rush Adventure are the pinnacle of 2D Sonic and represent the classic and boost styles perfectly >Adventure-Heroes is the golden era of 3D Sonic>Unleashed is the only modern console Sonic (post heroes) worth playing These are hard pills to swallow, but they must be realized
>>722368924The real hard pill to swallow is Sonic CD is a bad Sonic gameIt's even harder because It's my favorite one.
>>722353371>Reminder when a Sonic fan tries to tell you "No, Sonic games are actually really good!"no sonic ever gonna say that, every sonic fan knows that they are bunch of shit tier games and good games there is never a fully agree in both sides
>>722353371Sonic was always poor man's mario.
>>722353371Anon, it's rude to talk about your cousin that way.
>>722368924/Thread
>>722368731>A game hated by fansIt's only a matter of time until the little kids who grew up with it as their first sonic game start "reevaluating" it. It happens with every dogshit sonic game and it will continue to happen.
>>722368924>Taking unleashed over generationsPathetic. This is why no one respects sonic fans, they can't even recognize a good time when it's staring them in the face. They'd rather put up with hours of the most boring beat em up gameplay imaginable than play a game that's breezy and enjoyable just out of sheer contrarianism.
>>722360459i more miffed by those japanese wallpaper stories where they played around with the phantom ruby; sure it was just a bunch of stories where the cast got brainwashed and got their lives changed for a moment, but it fucking culminated with this kino pic. the fact that neither mania or forces played with this kind of shit for the final battle is baffling
>>722368031>1 million, wow!Sonic isn't a niche series or some small time indie title or budget RPG. 1 million is mediocre as fuck for a legacy franchise. Embarrassing.
>>722371727>contrarianismWrong
>>722353371Reminder when a Sonic hater tries to tell you "Sonic games were never good" he's desperately covering up that his favorite super mature AAA games all use Sonic games as the thing they should aim for.Don't believe me? They made faggots that only play "mature games for mature gamers" praise pic-related by making him a generic human.They made "mature gamers" praise the Homing Attack by removing it's second input and giving it to a generic human that moves at the speed of an American that needs to lose some weight.And of course with all of Sonic's automation they defend that once you give it to some generic human who doesn't even have a jump button.The same journos that shit on Sonic games were the same one's that praised and celebrated Ragnarok as an incredible, perfect game. You know, the one that tells you the answer to puzzles or where to go in a new area within seconds of being in it's vicinity.Turns out the secret to making "mature" gamers like Sonic was to make him a generic human that doesn't move very fast.
>>722353701SA1, Sonic Rush and Mania are good too
>>722371219Sonic is nothing like Mario
>>722353371Sonic games have bizarre artstyles. The characters look great but everything else looks terrible and it all clashes visually
>>722371727In terms of day stages vs Act 2 stages he's absolutely right.>Momentum based water running vs only while boosting>more platforming in 3D than not>Flow of the stages is better>Scoring system isn't just based on time>The fact it's all original stages rather than reusing older stages>The upgrade system lets you get a good feel for how fast Sonic can really go>Drifting is much more like a car needing you to control your speed than the impossible to fail super tight drifting of GensLooking at it solely in terms of Day stages and Act 2. The Day Stages are superior.
>>722353371Reminder that Knuckles led thousands of Mobians to their needless deaths with his retarted military strategy.
>>722372319Has there ever been another super metal sonic? I think there was one in the third game and that's about it
>>722375792For Mecha Sonic? No, but Metal Sonic got one in the IDW for his Neo form. Only exists for a few panels though.
>>722375989>Only exists for a few panels though.Lame, reminds me of that mania short where metal gets the emeralds but only his eyes turn gold and he gets rekt immediately after Isn't it strange we have never seen a fight between shadow and sonic in their super state? Or silver? Or super eggman as the final boss?
>>722376567>Isn't it strange we have never seen a fight between shadow and sonic in their super state?They don't really hate each other enough to do this anymore. they do in the 3rd Sonic movie though >Or Silver?Silver has been such a waste both with his first appearance and then everything after. He's basically been downgraded to regular side character status along with Blaze, while Shadow got promoted back to being a major side character with Forces and especially after last year. If I remember correctly, Silver's future didn't actually improve at all after the events of 06 and the reason he keeps coming back is because it's doomed or something. He was in the DC crossover where he was Green Lantern, which was neat but I think he's the character who needs some time in the limelight because people really do like him (he's picked a lot in crossworlds) but his reason for existing is sadly null.>Or super eggmanSuper Eggman is funny but it probably won't ever happen because it's not only been put forth as a joke from that monthly comic they did in 2023, but they also decided to make it based off the phantom ruby (which you can see in his chest) which I highly doubt they'll ever bring back into the series because it was kinda dumb. He's obviously used the emeralds before for some machines which is more in character, I know he can go super fast in Sonic 2 and SA2 and his physical strength is actually surprisingly high, but his machines are generally just better. he also goes super eggman in the 2nd Sonic movie where they made the master emerald just the culmination of all the chaos emeralds
>>722377796>They don't really hate each other enough to do this anymoreThey could just made up some bullshit about shadow being mindraped and controlled by someone>Silves has been such a waste Ikr, he really needs to have a big role on a good game or series, weedhead needs more love >super eggman They could go with a battle suit ala lex luthor Or make it a bonus fight if you collect secrets, after his machines gets destroyed he goes for a fight hand to hand against sonic using the emeralds in a last ditch effort idk Also I wanted to ask, has it ever been explained why shadow is the only one that knows how to use chaos control?
>>722353371>pulls up the worst game from 8 years agoholy mother of rent-free
>>722360459Honestly it was a bad concept for a game from the start.
>>722371727Gens actually has aged very poorly. The 2D segments in the Modern levels especially.Shadow Gens is closer in quality to Unleashed.
>>722353371Absolute lie, no one hates/criticizes Sonic games more than Sonic fans themselves lol. They also tend to be selective of specific eras or games of the series.I usually just recommend the ones I had fun with growing up, and the kino fangames I have fun with as an adult. SRB2 is peak 3D Sonic gameplay btw
>>722353474fpbpbait OP
>>722353371same with pokemon, star wars, disney, marvel etc.zombies franchises whose sole fans are nostalgia gooner millenials who will empty their wallets regardless of how awful the product isemasculated forever manchildren with no impulse control are the sole demographics for these franchises now, and most "nostalgia" based media in general
>>722353371>This is the type of slop that they love to eat up from Daddy Sega.This is Sonic Forces, so.... no, I don't think they do what you describe.
>>722376567>Isn't it strange we have never seen a fight between shadow and sonic in their super state?Sonic X>Or super eggman as the final boss?That one year calendar that released monthly with an accompanying story
>>722353737You are literally a sadist that wants to kill autistic people.
