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They say the best way to judge a man’s character is to look him in the eyes and ask him who he sacrificed on Virmire.
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>>722366781
And he responds "I have no idea what you're talking about"
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I saved Kaiden as Ashley is just a soldier grug while Kaiden has magic powers.
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>>722366781
kaiden turns into the weird gay friend
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>>722366781
To me it made the most sense in the moment to leave Kaiden protecting the bomb
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kaidan is a nice character, I don't get the hate, if he had tits you would save him (and romance him) too
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>>722366781
I sent Kaidan to die
>why
for some non-blue pussy I wasn't even interested in
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>>722367119
You're right, I would. But he doesn't have tits, so he dies.
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>>722366781
both are in the end black holes of personality so it don't matter
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I ditched Kaiden the first time for the pussy, but Ashley is obviously the more expendable and correct choice to sacrifice.
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>>722366781
Ashley (honestly thought she'd make it to the rendezvous on time, and I needed to make sure that bomb went off)
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>>722367065
the salarians probably would've held no matter who you saved- they should've just legged it to the ship, it's like a 2 minute walk
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Fun fact. Ashleys voice actress is black and she voices the black character in borderlands 4.
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>>722366781
1. Sacrifice Kaidan with the nuke so he earns a heroes death and all the honor that comes with it.
2. Send Ashley the xenophobe with the salarians and rescue her so she has survivors guilt.

For the record I like Kaidan more than Ashley, but she doesn’t get the easy way out of redeeming her family name. She talks the big talk and keeps ranting about personal honor and God lets see her live up to it. Kaidan at least was 100% comfortable with who he was. Worst thing he did was kill a turian in self-defense who abused kids.
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>>722367229
and here I was saving ashley every playthrough because she's racist
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Ashley is an expendable grunt and I was busy plapping Liara so bye bitch
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>getting the urge to replay the series again for the 500th time
why does no other game scratch this itch
I even tried andromeda for the first this year to avoid having to replay ME again (BIG mistake)
I'm scared I'm going to get bored of it, I've been playing ME since I was like 13 years old
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>>722366781
I've never saved Kaiden. Tried it once and it felt so wrong. Dude is just boring and I don't miss him. Also I'm a Carth hater and it doesn't help having the same VA.
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>>722366781
Ashley
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>>722366781
I played the game with Ash and Wrex every time because they have health regen
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>>722367065
My first playthrough was Ashley defending the bomb, and I felt it would be the correct choice to go back and make sure the Geth wouldn't deactivate it. That's basically my canon event now and every other permutation feels like an alternate universe lol.
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>>722367478
I have a similar autism, I've played through Mass Effect 1 so many damn times. I honestly really like the Mako stuff.
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>>722366781
I don't particularly like either of them but I prefer Kaidan so I saved him
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>>722367636
I sent Kaiden to the bomb because I thought he was the better soldier. Sending a grunt to prime the bomb didn't make sense to me. And I trusted Kaiden to finish the job, so leaving him felt like the right call.
And same, I choose the same every time I replay
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>>722367803
Riding around on planets with the Mako was great - i always enjoyed that and wish the other games brought that back instead of doing scans and... nothing for ME3
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>>722367960
the salarians were like special forces, they probably didn't need anyone
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>>722367992
This post-mortem retrospective on the Mass Effect series really helped put to words a lot of the vague feelings I had and gave me more peace regarding how the series ending. The writing was on the wall with Mass Effect 2, even though it was a fun game. https://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=27792
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>>722366781
The first time I saved kaiden because I wasn't gonna send ashley to support a team of ayys, and it made no sense to go pick up the bomb guy, story wise
Like what, I get myself closer to the explosion just to leave the bomb undefended while i get far enough to let it explode?
On replays I still save kaiden because ashley is annoying while kaiden barely exists
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>>722368315
One thing I disagree with Shamus on is that the only problems with ME2 is the main story, specifically how he states the beginning and end. Like yes he's right that those are major issues, but I also hated the simplification of gameplay and RPG elements, and I've always thought the squad roster was way too bloated.
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>>722366781
Sacrificed Kaidan so he died a hero.
Killed Ashley in ME3 so she died a pathetic traitor.
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>>722368315
i was legit sad when shamus died, i loved reading his stuff even when i did not agree with it
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>>722367178
Ashley is great until ME3 ruins her. Shes correct about everything in ME1 and ME2

>hey shepard these people uplifted some violent lizards to fight a battle they didnt want to fight and then biochemically genocided the lizards when the battle was done, and also one of them tried to wipe us out of space because it was more convenient to genocide a peaceful spacefaring species than it was to file the paperwork to acknowledge that they exist and have rights. we shouldnt be trying to prove ourselves equal to them, we should be launching them out of airlocks.
>hey wait a minute... shepard is dead and you are just a cerberus brand flesh puppet made to look like him. you know, kinda like how miranda is a genetic plastic surgery patient designed to look like a 10/10 bimbo. you know, cerberus specialty, cerberus-loyal infiltrators that are identical genetic clones of people cerberus killed and experimented on. i think you might not be shepard at all!

and then me3 didnt happen so she is still correct forever
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Ash every time, it's the only logical answer.
>decision 1: who to send with the STG on the diversion strike
Kaiden is the best option. His tech, biotic, and medical skills are excellent for crowd control and keeping the Salarians alive longer, which is the point of the feint they're not trying to succeed in their assault. Also, as the highest ranking officer next to Shep, his presence is a gesture of respect and confidence in their suicidal mission.
>decision 2: who to send the Normandy to pick up
Sending it to pick up the Salarians and Kaiden is also the only right choice, not even just more lives saved but why the fuck would you ever leave the bomb unattended with a bunch of Geth around to fuck with it? Ash is deadly and durable, she's the better choice to protect the bomb until it goes off.

Also Ash is a cunt.
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>>722367992
>nothing for ME3
3's thing is "eavesdropping on random literal who's and then having maybe one line of input"
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>>722366781
you either die at Virmire or live long enough for EA/Bioware to turn you gay
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>>722366781
Ashley is a based human supremacist, so I always save her
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>>722368930
Yeah. Can't believe people really like 3 as a game. The shooting may be way better but the stuff that isn't the shooting is such a passive experience even compared to 2.
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>>722368898
It makes literally no sense to go after the Salarians, who say they have things under control, instead of doubling back to reinforce the bomb site. You're basically just trusting whoever you sent to the bomb site to protect it, which is a huge gamble.
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>>722366781
Fuck anon, you convinced me to reinstall
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>>722368898
Correct. Kaidan is an officer, 3rd in command of the Normandy, multi-talented, all around cool guy.
Ashley is a generic grunt soldier except they made her a woman.
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If you don't give Kaiden a hero's death on Virmire, he catches the gay and turns into a faggot. There is no corresponding negative to saving Ashley. It's the moral and practical choice to kill Kaiden.
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>>722368468
>>722368898
I don't really see how Ash is annoying, at least in the context of ME1. By ME3 they completely ruined her character but ME3 is shit so who cares.
The human females in 2 are the worst, Jack and Miranda have always been annoying bitches who I'd rather throw off the ship but I have no choice since 2 forces you to be a Cerbercuck.
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>>722366781
I'd sacrifice both if I could
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>>722369376
>oh my science did she just say that she can't tell the heckin aliens from the animals? disgusting space bigot I can't wait to let her die
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>>722366781
Ashley.
Felt over-all as far as the trilogy is concerned the dynamic between Male Shep and Kaiden was more interesting by the time you got to 3.
Besides, if I'm playing a space game with romance options, ima romance the ayylmaos. Sorry Ash, you're dying for that.
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>>722369040
>human supremacist
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>>722368898
I just asked Grok and it reasoned the same as you
Don't read too much in to it, just found it interesting
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>>722368514
yeah, me1 wasn't perfect, but you don't just strip it all away
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It would've been cool if you could select any squadmate for either task. Imagine if you sent Tali with the bomb and Garrus with the Salarian team. Now that would've been a devastating choice.

Of course metagaming faggots would choose their two least favorites but idc.
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I like to let Ashley die because it feels more kino to know my Shepard got a grunt killed and has to live with that.
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>>722367119
>kaidan is a nice character
he's Carth.
fuck Carth.

all my niggas hate Carth.
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>>722369565
The fuck is this screenshot? This encounter is just outside Flux in the wards but this looks like the presidium.
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>>722369791
he cute
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>>722369909
It's modded. Where it moves encounters from the other wards to the presidium.
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>>722369770
>Shepard got a grunt killed
What's the significance here?
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>>722367478
For me it was the ME1 music running in the background, and running around exploring the rich world. I was just 15 when I first played it, and I was in awe of everything, it was so detailed and well made I was shocked how well made the world was
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>>722366781
I've never cared for any of the human party members in Mass Effect other than Zaeed
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>>722370119
A good leader should aim to insure all his soldiers survive, even the low ranking small ones.
Having a low ranking grunt like Ashley killed as over someone higher rank like Kaiden just feels more interesting from a personal POV for Shepard.
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>>722370351
she cute
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>>722369376
>I don't really see how Ash is annoying
She's too transparent a mouthpiece and it breaks my immersion.
It's beyond blatant that she's meant to represent the "intolerant" side of humans, but she's so milquetoast about it it sounds like you're listening to a leftist's idea of an acceptable right winger.
Even back when politics wasn't such a sensitive issue in games she stood the fuck out.
Also she's not hot and she's enough of an unprofessional whore to go after her direct superior officer.
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>>722366781
I nuke Kaidan to save him from being turned into a faggot by the nuBioware writers
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>>722369770
>it feels more kino to know my Shepard got a grunt killed
Lmao your shepard better have had the war hero background.
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>>722370434
Just sounds like you're projecting some retarded meta-interpretation onto her, honestly.
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Kaiden:
>higher ranking
>longer history with Shepard
>has rare biotic abilities in additional to technical skills
>competent and tries to not let his emotional baggage get in the way
Ashley:
>random grunt

Why would Shepard realistically ever choose Ashley?
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>>722370434
>she's so milquetoast about it it sounds like you're listening to a leftist's idea of an acceptable right winger
yeah they clearly backed down from what they had in mind for her at first
constantly shits on aliens randomly, but when you talk to her about Terra Firma she starts seething about how they're racist bigots and she would never support them lmao
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>>722369791
But he's also Scorch and all my homies love Scorch
Except Disney apparently
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>>722370575
No shit it's a meta interpretation, I literally complained about her breaking my suspension of disbelief.
It's definitely not a projection though, you can see other anons in the thread having conflicting interpretations of her based on the obvious writer's intent (>>722369040) vs the best he could actually stomach to let her say as a party member (>>722369565).
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>>722370751
Shepard has the power to see the future and doesn't want his buddy Kaiden to turn gay.
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im considering skipping 1 this time
i just want to replay 2 but my ocd is telling me to replay 1` as well
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>Awkward will-they-won't-they between femShep and Kaidan, ultimately staying professional and putting the mission first
>Liara lusts for femShep but is too spaghetti to do anything about her feelings
>Kaidan betrays femshep, meanwhile Liara has been spending the past few years doing everything she can to help Shep from the shadows.
>Liara finally gets her love reciprocated in ME2 but she too has her own mission that she prioritizes over romance
>FemShep and Liara finally getting together in ME3 just before the end of the world.
This is the kino relationship arc
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I saved Ashley because she's got a family.
Dunno if Kaidan's parents are still alive, can't remember if he talked about them.
Only person I remember him talking about is that turkish chick or whatever he wanted to fuck at biotics school.

Let me know if there are people who will care if you cark it cunt.
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>>722370434
this style of thinking is deranged. ashley is exceedingly tolerant and ultimately the least space-racist human ally. her entire character in the first game is juggling the idea that space aliens need to be respected and that the differences in mindset that make them inhuman do not make them inherently wrong, against the simple fact that the alien council are actually retards who are outlandishly wrong about everything and so stubborn that they would rather kill billions than admit any mistake.
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>>722370864
liara is as interesting as a brick wall
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>>722370913
They should have leaned in and made her the space nazi that the memes pretend she is.
Letting the council blow up with Ash by your side to allow humanity to control the galaxy.
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>>722366781
Gayden, no ragrets
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>>722370825
So with Ashley it's "le obvious writer's intent" but with every other character who expresses beliefs it's not? What do you say about Wrex's victim mentality or Garrus always wanting to breach ethics?
Just admit you're working backwards from nu-gamers who have a shocked soi-face when they hear Ashley isn't trusting of the council, even though tons of other humans are exactly same like Pressley.
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>>722366781
does it matter? bother are boring characters. one turns into a homosexual and the other into a bimbo bitch who betrays you
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>>722366781
I let the faggot die
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>>722371190
We don't consider the sequels canon in these parts.
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>>722371217
He's not a fag until ME3. You're heroically preventing him from turning faggot by having him die.
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>>722366781
I saved Ashley, because alien bastards need to be kept in line. Kaiden is a cuckold, for whom the human race has no practical use.
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It's shocking how many people horrifically misinterpret Ashley's bear-dog analogy. Some people are genuninely low IQ.
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>>722371258
based
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>>722371131
>with every other character who expresses beliefs
Is this what you got from my posts? The issue isn't them expressing beliefs, it's that ashley's don't feel organic. It feels like they wanted to write her as the racist trope but pussied out.
Whereas garrus is just your stereotypical cowboy cop while wrex is the barbarian.
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>>722370786
>he thinks disney is his homie
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>>722367478
It has high replay value in the way that Breaking bad has high rewatch value. Every scene is just a crisp delectable treat that never gets bland.
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Ashley can shoot Wrex dead. Kaiden won't.
That alone is enough to ensure you must always pick the bro before the ho.
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>Bioware: SAVING KROGANS IS OBJECTIVELY CORRECT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE AN EVIL NAZI DO YOU WREX IS COOL YOU WANT TO BE COOL TOO
>Mass Effect: Goes out of its way to show how much better off the universe would be without krogan whenever possible
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>>722366781
Killed the woman since I'm not a mentally ill troon with negative iq
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>>722372084
Curing the Genophage is literally the most evil thing you can do in any BioWare game. Even more evil than mind controlling Zaalbar into strangling Mission to death.
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>>722366781
Pic related is me. TLDR, >>722367039.
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>>722369791
It's been 22 years, more people known him as Kaidan than Carth today
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>>722366781
I used to sacrifice ash till they turned kaidan into a whiny fag in 3.
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>>722367295
She's not even racist lmao you let reddit influence your opinion on the character
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How could the galaxy possibly trust a man that looks like this to save them?
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>>722369102
>even compared to 2
But it's more of an RPG that 2?
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>>722369356
>he catches the gay
Quite literally, unironically, factually, only if you have shit taste in romances
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>>722373330
What's the alternative? He gets shit done and he refuses to die.
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>>722370867
He's got parents and a cousin
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>>722373547
Nah he acts like a total faggot regardless of your gender or romance preference.
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>>722373896
>he doesn't know
Let me guess: you romanced Tali or Miranda
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>>722366781
Ashley must survive. She has good opinions.
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>>722373934
Liara actually, can't go wrong with the writer's pet.
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>>722373460
Equipment system is better than 2, but the exploration/investigation/dialogue is much worse.
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I did not care for the Legendary Edition.
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>>722374247
Then you should've gotten a non-fag Kaidan. You can save him from sucking dick if you speak with him after locking in another romance:
https://youtu.be/3sxgchnuX0c?t=1669
https://youtu.be/t5FnGvHQWBc?t=84
Liara is one of the ones that does lock-in that early so you don't even have an excuse, fren. Next time talk to her first and foremost then go talk to Kaidan and he won't be possessed by BioWare's need for sucking Shepard's cock.
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>>722374490
The fuck are you even on about? I played as femshep, and Kaidan acts like a faggot throughout the whole game.
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>>722374706
>I played as femshep
Apologies anon, it turns out (You) were the true homosexual all along.
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It's pretty simple
you save the latina because you have a penis
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>>722374835
that's a man
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>>722367039
yup
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>>722374732
yawn
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>>722371285
uh oh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7i-9ej2jzM
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>>722368773
>>hey wait a minute... shepard is dead and you are just a cerberus brand flesh puppet made to look like him. you know, kinda like how miranda is a genetic plastic surgery patient designed to look like a 10/10 bimbo. you know, cerberus specialty, cerberus-loyal infiltrators that are identical genetic clones of people cerberus killed and experimented on. i think you might not be shepard at all!
How can she be correct about everything when this is objectively wrong?
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>>722374732
I accept your concession.
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>>722374887
no, but you sure aren't
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>>722374732
kek
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>>722374706
>I played as femshep
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>>722374991
cute chie
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noticed the kaidan fags and the male shep fags seem to be the same people
(homofags)
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>>722374991
To be fair, femshep's voice acting is much better than maleshep.
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she cute
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>>722375283
>To be fair, femshep's voice acting is much be-
https://youtu.be/ZY136KbNVQQ?t=10
https://youtu.be/lubDlMOl_SQ?t=7
ACK!
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>>722373330
how about him?
whenever i play through ME if i play evil i try to make him look like obama and name him "Klu Klux Shepard"
always sheploo in ME1 though
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>>722375283
When I first played ME, Male Shepard's voice sounded so robotic in the first 2 games I thought he was intentionally generic sounding because you can make a custom character.
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>>722366781
I sacrifice Kaidan so I can shoot Ashley myself for not being racist enough
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>>722366781
Kaiden but then never bring Ashley on missions and date Liara.
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Installed LE to play ME1
Thinking of what mods to use
>ME1LLO
>Community Patch
I see Diversification Project but idk about that one
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ashley was guarding the bomb, it made no sense to leave her stranded
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you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become that weird gay friend
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>>722375234
>male shep fags
Oxymoron. You either play Sheploo or you're a tranny coping with "m-muh Jennifer Hale has better acting!" or "I-I-I want to stare at Shepard's ass!"
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I have turboautism so objectively Ash needs to die.

>Kaiden's engineering skills make him more suited to setting up the bomb
>You need to stop the Geth from getting close enough to the bomb to potentially defuse it

I know the game tries to handwave this by saying the bomb is really simple and unstoppable, but that explanation isn't good enough, especially considering it's given before the first meeting with Sovereign.
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>>722375432
>Mass Effect 3
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>>722376148
If you play anything other than custom male shepard you're a gayboi.
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>>722375652
kek
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>>722373330
after he sacrificed all those batarians, there was no doubt he was the one
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>>722366781
saved my bro Kaidan. then two games later he showed up gay for me.
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>>722376148
Armors do look better on femshep thoughever. By ME2 broshep is looking like a retarded power ranger.
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>>722376483
I'll accept the concession
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>>722369791
>is cautious about you cause you're an unknown
>FUCK YOU CARTH!!!!!
>he was right the whole time
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>>722375362
excuse me, that's my wife
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>>722367238
Oh, so you're one of those stupid, "Ashley is a racist!" fags. You're too stupid to be trusted with the decision over who to sacrifice.
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>>722375432
weird how her voice started out great in ME1 and got more bland and stale in the sequels
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>>722377770
the script is clearly written for a man and she just reads the lines too. she did ok considering.
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>>722377892
youre clearly retarded
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I planned my mass effect playthough around making sure the characters I didn't like would die. I left ashley to get nuked and I intentionally played me2 so jack would die at the end.
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>all the ME threads on /v/ got me back to replaying 1
Whats with the recent uptick of Mass Effect threads anyways? Not that Im complaining but it must coincide with an anniversary or something or event?
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>>722380372
>Whats with the recent uptick of Mass Effect threads anyways?
I've been playing through it because my gf got me the Legendary edition for my birthday so the Baader-Meinhoff Effect is summoning threads about it into existence because I'm the only real person on 4chan
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>>722380372
Live Action show also EA buyout
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i sent kaiden because hes a better soldier and i wanted to make sure the job was done right.
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>>722380372
I feel like ME threads always pick up during winter. Also we'll have N7 day in a month.
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>>722368468
>and it made no sense to go pick up the bomb guy, story wise
>Like what, I get myself closer to the explosion just to leave the bomb undefended while i get far enough to let it explode?
Funny, I ended up saving Kaiden as well for the exact opposite reason. I sent him with the bomb because he was the more 'technical' guy, and when I first played it I genuinely thought that if I didn't go help him out then Saren and his guys might be able to disarm the bomb.
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>>722366781
Kaiden is OG because he's been around with you since the beginning
Ashley is just some mystery meat space chick you picked up from some random alien planet
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>>722366781
>Whiny canadian
>Whiny cardboard
It's hard to choose honestly.
Good thing ME3 lets you kill the survivor.

That said I could easily fap to Bimbo Ashley.
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>>722366781
Doesn't matter. The other one's getting blown away in 3.
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>>722380372
Probably just people seeing the headlines about Bioware after the EA buyout and getting the urge to talk about Mass Effect again.
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>>722366781
>becomes a faggot in ME3
nah leave him behind for ashley's nice rack in me3
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>>722380372
You fags keep asking this every month without realizing that there's simply just always ME threads up.
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>>722366781
>>722367039
It makes the most sense for the guy with the most experience and technical knowledge to stay behind and make sure the bomb goes off without a hitch.
I would never trust a low IQ grunt with such a monumentally important task.
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there are people here who don't like Jack?
I will destroy you
she was one of the few things that got better in ME3

>>722381090
>live action show
huh?
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>>722366781
Ashley ends up with a ringing in her ears
Kaiden is a biotic and thus more valuable to humanity and the galaxy as a whole compared to a rank and file soldier who comes from a family of traitorous curs prone to surrendering in wartime
It's an easy choice to make
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>>722385948
you wouldnt really trust such an important task to a grunt would you?
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>>722385764
she's bald nigga
bald
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>>722369565
I always hated how Ashley was forced into your party and no matter how much you said no she could not be gotten rid of outside of nuking her to death in the end game
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>>722366781
Ash gets to die redeeming her family name.
Kaidan gets to live and prove that even the old biotic implants can spike later in life.
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>>722370375
>A good leader should aim to insure all his soldiers
Didn't realise Shepard was jewish
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>>722375283
lol
femshep sounds like she's bored and gargling piss most of the time
women cannot be menacing or inspiring
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>>722382038
>he's been around with you since the beginning
lol you act like they have been brothers in arms for years or something before meeting Ashley. Shepard and Kaiden have no history before being stationed on the Normandy together. Shepard has known Kaiden for a few days to a couple weeks max before Eden Prime. All Kaiden was to him was just another lieutenant under his command.
You pick Ashley up in the tutorial mission so by the time you do the mission in Virmire shep has fought alongside both of them for a nearly equal amount of time.
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>>722385764
They are casting for live action Mass Effect show
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>>722366781
First playthrough back in 2008: Kaidan because I hadn't decided whether to fuck Ashley or Liara at the time.
Every other playthrough: Ashley.
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>>722366781
I saved Ashley and then fucked her, since I ain't gonna stick it into a xeno.
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>>722366781
Bros before hoes.

Kaidan is the 'literally me' prospect, how can a man not save him
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>>722367064
We don't talk about Mass Effect 3, canon Kaidan is straight.
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>>722366781
I kill off Ashley after romancing her in ME1 to add even more trauma to Shepard's life
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>>722369791
Carth is annoying as hell. But he's funny when he tells Mission to run as if she were a dog
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>>722366781
Can we at least admit that these two were better than jacob and miranda. What the fuck were they thinking with those two?
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>>722366781
Don't even remember. I know I didn't care about Ashley I was all for that blue pussy. Didn't care about kaidan either. probably sent kaiden to die because I don't remember ever using him but I remember having ashley at one point.
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>>722392529
>What the fuck were they thinking with those two?
>Kaidan but even more boring
>Ashley but Michael Jackson
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>>722367295
Jokes on you chud
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>>722373231
She's definitely a bit racist
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>>722366781
Saved Kaidan because Virmire was a great ending for Ashley's character arc. Then told Kaidan in ME3 that he can't return to Normandy because he is too gay.
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>>722366781
Kaiden's L2 implant migraines and psychic powers were most interesting than Ashley, who has nothing going on except for being ugly as sin. She's also a space racist, which is stupid in a game about sticking your dick in aliens.
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>>722369692
I'd do anything for Tali though so that would just make my decision to save here 10x easier.
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>>722393667
I hate the bimbofication she went through in 3. What were they thinking?
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>>722380372
We always have Mass Effect threads. For all it's problems, it's one of the most memorable video game series with enough substance to endlessly talk about.
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>>722370786
I would be angry about this if I wasn't so tired of it all
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>>722366781
i save kaidan as femshep cause he's my romace interest
sometimes i save ashley as maleshep, sonetimes i save kaidan. (but I romance Tali)
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>>722393872
>(but I romance Tali)
https://youtu.be/txuWGoZF3ew
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>>722370751
Because the situation is not about choosing who's your bestie, retard. Someone HAS to calibrate the bomb or whatever, that someone HAS to be the most qualified person, and someone HAS to save the Salarian team at the same time and Ashley just happens to be there. So saving her is the only morally correct choice. If you did anything else, then realistically, you'd be looking to get fired or demoted at the very least.
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>>722374931
Ash was 100% right being suspicious. Cerberus CLAIMED they recovered Shep and revived him. The first part might be true, but for the second there is no proof. He might have just died somewhere between the cutscenes and replaced with a clone that we know have been made. The privy staff was silenced one way or another. Actually, the attack on the labs in the beginning of ME2 might have been the final cleanup. That'd be a very Cerberus thing to do.
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>>722366781
There's never been a real argument for saving Kaiden
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>>722394429
he's hot and the perfect puppy for my renegade girlboss femshep
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>>722394429
Because chuds and normies alike don't even talk to Kaidan to know about his backstory.
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>>722374979
that's not what you said last night anon
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I used to think saving Kaidan made more sense because of his rank but really I just fell for the Ashley hate like a retard. But now I understand I must save him from becoming gay.
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>>722366781
First playthough I saved Ashley because space racist is a lot more interesting than "my magic powers hurt :("
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>>722366781
Kaidan since I hate Carth
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>>722366781
My only regret is that I can't sacrifice them both.
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Me: Vanguard with a shotty full of HE ammo
Garrus: Has a sniper rifle with HE ammo and scram rails
Ashley: Also has a sniper rifle with HE ammo and scram rails

While you’re in this thread arguing about faggotry I am just rushing apertures and shit while everything around me explodes because I have two of the best snipers in the galaxy covering my bionic ass
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I saved Kaiden because he's a tech and I sent him to the bomb, it seemed like the bomb was at risk so I defended it.

Simple priorities, if the bomb fails, everyone deaths were for nothing
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>>722374918
>modded
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>>722394404
>Send Ash with the bomb
>bomb gets miscalibrated
>SR-1 has to rescue her and setup the bomb again
>Kaidan and Kirrahe make it to the bomb site
>bomb goes oops
>Joker panics as the Normandy gets caught in the blast
>explosion breaks the superstructure and destabilizes the drive core into an unauthorized atmospheric FTL jump at full power
>open air Cherenkov's radiation
>superluminal RKK vaporizes 1/2th of Virmire's surface
>whole planet is one big earthquake
>atmosphere self-ignites
>the Council punishes Systems Alliance
>it doesn't matter anyway because Saren escapes and in a day everyone dies
And you didn't even kill any Batarians!
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>>722394404
*RKV
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>>722366781
I saved Ashley because Kaiden made fun of Joker at the beginning of the game.
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>>722398582
Joker deserves to be bullied
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>>722366781
I'd have killed both if I could, but Kaidan had less going for him originally. Then Ashley dropped the space racism and religiosity soon after and was thus worthless.
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Um yeah I gave the fiesty latina a lifelong case of imposter syndrome so I can just push her over and blast a nut into her absolutely any time I want because she's emotionally vulnerable at all times.
I'm sure I'll miss having the sensitive do-gooder around to be boring at me.
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>>722366781
>played start to finish 68+ times across 5 Sheps
>collectibles and everything every time
>love me some ME
>sacrificed Kaidan when techshep
>sacrificed Ash when soldierShep
>kept Ash under most circumstances
>pure soldier class excellent taking world enemies outside of Mako
Whatever I needed from Alenko I or my other did better. Ash was rare, and very useful.
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>>722366781
Not really. A best man would want to save both.
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>>722368773
>. shepard is dead and you are just a cerberus brand flesh puppet made to look like him.
That one doesn't work, seeing as Shepard gets things done just like ME1 Shep.
Unless Cerberus can clone talent, he's himself.
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I would've let Ashley die in the tutorial mission if it was an option
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>>722368514
Well he put more of a focus on the story and writing than the gameplay. He did note he liked ME3's combat and put in some obligatory bitching about how bad the thermal clips are in ME2 but not much outside of that.
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>>722400920
Based
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>he was too ugly to be skipper'd
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>>722367064
But ME3 has to be mentioned, because Ashley becomes a sexy bimbo.
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>>722366781
Ash. We'll bang okay?
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>>722401029
Removed most of the bullshit excess from your image.
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>>722367064
>leave Kaiden with the bomb to spare him from becoming a faggot
Truly a tragic character.
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>>722402015
>removing sexy blimp
Your a cunt m8
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>>722399576
>tips fedora
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>>722366781
Obviously Kaiden, to save him from BioWare engayifying him.
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>>722400887
>seeing as Shepard gets things done
?
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>>722402408
NTA, but the whole point of cloning Shepard was that he would be free to act on his own (and do what was necessary). The Illusive Man was scared that if any attempt to control him was made, he could fail. He's as much the original body as they could make him, and his mind seemed pretty much intact.
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>>722402408
If Shepard is a clone, he is completely identical to the one in ME1, experience, consciousness. No dips in performance. He even gets better.
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>>722366781
then generic human female, as i was tapping those alien blueberry cheeks
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>>722380372
Probably EA marketing.
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>>722402809
>blueberry
>chooses the one fat and ugly asari
You tell 'em, xister.
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>>722403069
>chooses
Unless you want to get killed by Morinth there isn't any choice when it comes to fucking blue girls
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>>722403097
You can fuck Sha'ira and be one and done. Then you can go team purple.
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>>722403069
wasn't really much of a choice, Ashley was the only alternative in the first game iirc
went with Tali in the second, never played the rest
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Reminder that Samara's VA is the mom of Billie Eilish or what's her name.
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do asaris have pussies or just weird brain sex?
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>>722403642
The comics say it's like their head crown

For turians and salarians it's a cloaca of some sort
For humans it's just a blue vagina as Jack (TIM) recalled
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>>722367039
U GAY
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>>722403642
They have pussies, of-course, how do you think they carry babies? Brain sex is just their gene gaining method.
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>>722403642
In Lair of the Shadow Broker Liara makes a reference to Asari pussy called "Azure"
So clearly it's seen as sexually desirable for whatever reason.
Not sure why Asari would have a clit in their piss/birth hole but there you go.
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>>722366781
is the original trilogy better than the remastered?
i own the original on EA app
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>>722403972
Not censored for one and the aesthetics are intact. You might need a few small fixes but it'll work just fine.
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>>722366781
I saved Kaiden once and he turned into a whiny bitch in ME3. Better to give him a heroic death I say
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>>722369791
only real niggas hate carth
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>>722401029
wait a minute...
>Miranda
>Ashley
>Jack
>Kelly
were there any black women in Mass Effect?
I know there was Kasumi
and then there was Jacob Taylor and Commander Anderson
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>>722405973
>Ashley
>he doesn't know
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>>722406005
Doesn't count, and she sounded like a knockoff Mila Kunis anyway.
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>>722406079
One drop rule. All humans in ME are mutted.
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>>722406141
I don't speak foreign.
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>>722374706
>I played as femshep
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>>722366781
I only save ashley so I get the enjoyment of shooting her in the face in 3.
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>>722367295
She's speciest, not racist
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>>722394404
>"you'd be looking to get fired or demoted at the very least"
>as a Spectre
lorelet
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>>722406191
It's a common mistake. I got turned off by how bad Meer was in the first one, and played Femshep. They reverse positions as far as quality in 2.
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>>722366781
I don't think I've ever saved Ashley.
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>>722405973
>were there any black women in Mass Effect?
Khalisah, somewhat. Then Brynn Cole, then Brooks.
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>>722366781
Sacked Kaiden, only because I hate mages more than cunts. If it was truly my choice, I'd have left them both. Wrex + Garrus is the only party Shepard travels with in my canon (and Krogan Steve Blum, in ME2).
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>>722366781
>when ME1 came out originally, saving Ashley was a given
>apparently average zoomer would save a homosexual man over a trad woman
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>>722406651
>retarded teenager simps for virtual pussy (he's not even gonna fuck her, but he's that insecure)
Pottery
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>>722406651
A lot of people really fell for the ebil racist psyop
Also some fedora tipping because Ash is a Christcuck
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>>722377075
Not even close
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>>722366781
i'm a flaming faggot and even i save ashley over kaiden
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>>722406840
>N7(Onyx) armor is fucking useless in ME1
What were they thinking?
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>>722407001
I dunno man if I was gay I'd definitely prefer Kaidan over fucking Steve
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>>722407362
Military issue gear is always made by the lowest bidder.
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>>722407460
Kaidan is such a fucking basic bitch though, at least ashely has big sister vibes
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>>722407605
Yeah but N7 are special forces
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>>722407362
Colossus X.
HMWA X.
HMWSG X.
HMWSR X.
HMWP X.
Explosive Rounds X and High Caliber Barrel in all.
Yep. It's gaming time.
>>722407605
The lowest bidder is always a high bidder, because everyone gouges. The US military buys from quality companies like Colt and H&K for weapons. Armor Express and others make the armor.
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>>722406728
>normal christian woman with some understandable hangups about aliens
>fanbase treats her like hitler in space

Absolutely baffling but not surprising considering what Bioware fans are typically like.
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Guys would you accept a Mass Effect 1 remaster followed by an alternate timeline 2 + 3 that followed the dark matter plot instead of ASSUMING CONTROL?
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>>722408008
2 is fine. Just delete 3 and say Shepard died of a heart attack while cumming in quarian pussy.
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>>722407362
You can easily finish the game wearing Onyx X on at least Hardcore
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>>722408008
Yes.

>>722408049
>2 is fine
No.
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>>722408147
>No.
Yes. 2 is about as perfect as a RPG can get, though that's a low bar. The best part is the fact that it's more a cover shooter than a RPG.
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>>722408180
>2 is about as perfect as a RPG can get
Never mind, anything I'd say would be a waste of time.
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>>722408049
>2 is fine
lol

>>722408180
>2 is about as perfect as a RPG can get
lmao even
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>>722408229
lawl
le mao even
ruffles have ridges
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>>722408008
No, Dark Matter was unironically way more retarded than what we got. Leaving aside the fact 2007+18 BioWare would be unable to write anything good, if we're assuming a perfect alternate timeline where whoever got to rewrite ME was to do an amazing job, I'd take the plunge but only if 2/3 are rewritten to feature neither plot. Don't kill Shepard, don't retcon Cerberus into an OC donutsteel faction, just focus on the Prothean/Ilos/Cipher angle and develop naturally from there
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>Not modding it so you can save both because it makes ZERO fucking sense that Shep couldn't save both
Console plebs.

But on launch, Ashley as M!Shep and Kaiden as F!Shep
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>>722408389
>Don't kill Shepard, don't retcon Cerberus into an OC donutsteel faction, just focus on the Prothean/Ilos/Cipher angle and develop naturally from there
God if only.

I feel like dark matter being the reason why Reapers kill is at least a lot more sensible than the stupid "we are robots who kill to stop robots from killing" plot.
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>>722408049
2 was literally in their own words "we want the call of duty audience". It had better gunplay than 1 but the missions played like on-rails shooters. It has 4 main missions, 10 recruitment missions, 12 loyalty missions, and the rest are random ass 2 min shootouts on assfuck planets. The game is built around scanning and probing the anus planets of the galaxy. Liara becoming shadowbroker was retarded. Also we need say nothing about THAT conversation on ilium.
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>>722408734
the one where ashley screams at you for no good reason? i forgot the details of me2
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>>722408734
So it's the best game. Check.
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>>722408538
>dark matter being the reason why Reapers kill is at least a lot more sensible than the stupid "we are robots who kill to stop robots from killing" plot
I think it's worse, as it was explained to us, because at least in the final game the Reapers are following a flawed directive the Leviathans were too egocentric to foresee. Via DLC they took the retarded Starchild explanation and tard wrangle it into "it's wrong ON PURPOSE!". Really, if the franchise was to take this direction, then at the very least the Leviathans and the Crucible should've been introduced in the Collector Base at the end of 2 to make that game a build up to... something, anything.
In any case, Dark Matter was retarded because:
>Reapers realize mass effect fields and biotics are leading to the death of the whole universe so they leave all sorts of mass effect tools around for every future civilization to build off of
>to hasten the effect
>they don't tell anyone anything about it so, for countless cycles, no one realizes it
>then every 50k years they harvest all sorts of advanced civilizations then disappear so that even if anyone was solving the problem, it's halted and forgotten
>and the premise had it reach the point where *time was actually running out*. Several hundred thousands of millions of years and they thought, over and over and over again, that harvesting the most advanced civilizations would solve the problem
>reset everything to solve a problem that they don't explain, facilitate to occur, and do nothing themselves to solve
So say what you will about the Crucible but at least it didn't establish *the entire fucking UNIVERSE* as running out of time before its ultimate destruction because the Reapers allowed untold millennia of mass effect use for... reasons
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>>722408734
>It has 4 main missions
This is always wild to think about, and people often forget about it. You've got the intro/Freedom's Progress quest, Horizon like six hours later, then the Collector Ship where TIM leads Shepard into a trap for no fucking reason, then the Reaper IFF, then Joker surviving the Normandy's kidnapping (where Shepard and the entire fucking squadbase were gone for convenient reasons that will never ever be explained), then the Suicide Mission. Quite literally everything inbetween is fluff meant to distract you. Compare it with 1 where every single main planet is a branching main quest path where you investigate Saren, the locations act as mini-hubs, you've got Mako exploration and sidequests where you unearth the ruins of Feros' ancient skyscrapers or find out about Peak 15's corpo mysteries... what, where the fuck did it all go so wrong.
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>>722408389
I've been mulling around writing a fanfic about changing the course of ME2/3 to be more about rising conflict between Council space and the Terminus systems using the Normandy's openly revealed incursion into Terminus territory as the catalyst for it.
It was also going to be a fusion between Metal Gear so humanity would have had a rather noticeable population of AIs and cyborgs
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>>722409007
>if the franchise was to take this direction, then at the very least the Leviathans and the Crucible should've been introduced in the Collector Base at the end of 2 to make that game a build up to... something
I agree, but then 2's narrative *is* complete bollocks. As the middle entry of what's meant to be a single story, it throws out or blows up every plot point deliberately set up over the course of ME1 that they could've used (Shepard being a spectre, Shepard's ability to understand the Prothean language, a whole bunch of ruins that we haven't found, a whole bunch of Relays we haven't opened, having the most kickass ship in the universe with the best pilot, etc) just to set up a very similar status quo so we can waste time on what feels like a sideplot while setting up nothing for ME3 to work with. And none of the characters really react to the changes either so it's not like it results in many good moments. It's basically the The Last Jedi of video games, hence why when people defend ME2, they bring up how good the sidestories are and how much they improved the shooting rather than bring up the main story which is bizarrely paced and full of hand-waves, retcons and underwritten uninteresting characters.

That said, you make some good points about the Dark Matter sideplot I didn't think of before. There are explanations I could think of but then we're getting into fanwank territory which is not what this debate is about. To be fair towards that Dark Matter idea though, it was only an idea they didn't elaborate much on so we don't really know how well it would've gone over if they stuck with it. If ME3 was about Dark Matter but still ended with some kid giving you the choice of what your favorite color is I doubt fans would've liked it much more than what we got.
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>>722408734
Recruitment missions are main missions. If anything, stuff like Horizon is a side-mission that puts your team gathering quest on hold.
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>>722408147
ME2 reworked to follow the dark energy plot would be like 90% the same as the ME2 that already exists.
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>>722409334
ME2 doesn't have a normal main mission structure, so assuming you follow all main missions instantly is an incorrect assessment.
ME2 + all DLCs plays out somewhere in a 1-3 months+, and doing only main missions is a week or so, complete with refueling.
>a trap for no fucking reason
Shepard is led into a trap to gauge Collector homeground capabilities in a relatively safer manner as well as to gauge their spacecraft.
Harbinger allows the trap to happen because he's gauging Shepard, EDI's Reaper tech and TIM.
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>>722409007
Reapers follow correct directives.
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>>722405973
Black, as in negro? No.
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>>722408008
No.
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>>722406426
Khalisah is Arabic.
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>>722408180
2 is not an RPG. It's a cover based shooter with extremely token RPG elements.
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>>722406426
Brooks is Indian, not African.
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>>722409505
>As the middle entry of what's meant to be a single story, it throws out or blows up every plot point deliberately set up over the course of ME1 that they could've used
Sometimes a Chekhov's Gun is just a gun, Anon. It just hangs there like a nice decoration on a mantlepiece.
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>>722409680
>ME2 doesn't have a normal main mission structure
That's the issue, yes
>Shepard is led into a trap to gauge Collector capabilities in a relatively safer manner
The "plan required both TIM and Harbinger to correctly anticipate every step of the way how everyone would act (ie read the fucking script). Did the Collectors know TIM would be listening in on turian frequencies to hack their codes specifically at that moment in time? What if someone else showed up that wasn’t Shepard? What if the turians heard the fake message? What if they sent a bunch of ships? What if Shepard decides not to board you, but instead just starts shooting while you’re powered-down and helpless?
Then TIM says the reason he didn't tell Shepard was because him knowing would, somehow, make him "telegraph he's walking into a trap". You know, the dude that's about to enter the ship of the monsters that killed him two years prior and blew up his ship. Which means you should expect him to be cautious to the point of paranoia this time. What additional caution could he take that would qualify as “too much caution” to the Collectors? In other words: "hur durr I'm concerned that if Shepard knows he’s walking into a trap he’ll somehow telegraph that he knows, and then the Collectors will know that he knows, which will make Shepard’s raid… less useful somehow? Thank fuck the Collectors knew that I would be listening in on the turian's broadcast and intercept their codes and that I'd specifically dispatch Shepard as soon as I heard the fake report for their ship to be still by the time Shepard got there". It's retarded. The whole mission is retarded. Mass Effect 2 is retarded.
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>>722409630
You could reuse some assets of it for sure. Like I think destroying the alpha relay is pivotal to the whole saga and should be the final mission of 2, but I think the geth should remain the antagonists (as they are linked to the dark matter plot like the ending of the sun on tali's mission) and they succeed in turning a sun in to a mass relay, enabling the reapers to return
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>>722409754
Well, yeah. You get what I meant.
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>>722409901
Potato, potahto
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Kaidan dies. Why? Because in ME3, there are exactly THREE (3) pure Soldiers: Yourself (maybe), James, and Ashley. That's fucking it. And if you kill Ashley, you're down one. If you're not playing a Soldier, you have JAMES.
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>>722410254
Imagine saying that after getting btfo by your own creation and forced to hide at the bottom of some ocean planet
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>>722410164
>The "plan required both TIM and Harbinger to correctly anticipate every step of the way how everyone would act
It's not that hard to orchestrate, more comples ops were done IRL. Harbinger can simply sit back, while both Collectors and TIM have connections in many places. TIM in particular has agents, on Palaven included.

The Reapers are by and large always aware.
Their thought speed is FTL, their capabilities are decisively inhuman, their industrial capabilities exceed anyone elses' and their approach since ME2 implicates a more inquisitive disposition than a fully militant one.
>Then TIM says the reason he didn't tell Shepard was because him knowing would, somehow, make him "telegraph he's walking into a trap".
That's exactly what they are gauging.
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>>722410643
>If you're not playing a Soldier, you have JAMES
You don't need more
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>>722410643
Ashley also gives you the best soldier bonus skill.
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>>722410073
Jersey Shore sexo
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>>722410663
They are wholly correct. The Leviathans don't care about your forces. They are at odds with Chaos. Reapers hurt them, but the order and lab conditions they maintain are completely in their interests.
Since Shepard may bring them out, the mortals in the galaxy have a high chance of losing.
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>>722410905
Thats giga cope and they themselves realise it. Thats why they help out in the end
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>>722410643
...okay and?
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>>722410696
>more comples ops were done IRL
Were they done on a galaxy level? I don't think you realize just how unbelievably retardedly big space is
>both Collectors and TIM have connections in many places
Translation: they just do because the writers say so, go along with it, don't question the narrative ok?
>That's exactly what they are gauging
They are gauging that if Shepard doesn't know he's walking into a trap, he'll do so with 2 squadmates and armed to the teeth while if he knows he's walking into a trap, he'll do so with 2 squadmates and armed to the teeth? Feels to me like you're writing the game for the writers
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>>722410994
They help out because Shepard may or may not be an agent of Chaos and because the entire reality is an astronomic second away from total reality order collapse.
Law cannot create life, and Chaos and/or unstated and unwritten, but ultimately implied eldritch forces...
>sour yellow note
...become less and less tolerant of current status quo.
Whether some became interested in fucking up that particular reality, or are otherwise ambitious, their reality is about to be contested.
Or just return to a pre-Leviathan condition, after which they shall be given a boot.

Mortals are mostly harmless to Leviathans either way.
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>>722411354
Any dreadnought could one shot a Leviathan. There's a reason they hid after the Reapers, and it wasn't shame. They're strong against regular Joes on the ground, but they're still flesh and blood, and they're as endangered as a species can be. There are, what, three of them total?
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>>722410994
That's what makes 'em cool. They're all tsundere obsessed with feeling superior even after having screwed the galaxy over for millennia and Shepard can go and call 'em out on their bullshit immediately.
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>>722410806
The one that was bugged for 9 years?
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>>722411503
That's what mods are for.
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>>722408734
It was so odd how few main missions there were in ME2.

You get to fight Collectors a grand total of three (3) times only.
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>>722411036
Space =! lived in space.
The amount of manipulations necessary to arrange this particular event doesn't need more than several hundred people. You don't need a supercomputer for that, any small spook thinktank IRL worthy of their position could arrange the battle plan in a days of brainstorming. Don't be bambooled by larger interplanetary logistics. They are simply more complex and slower. But in some places they are ironically easier than IRL, even with presumably superior 3d border control.
Manipulators in military, forcing patrol routes to change by preemptively funding pirates. etc.
>They are gauging
What Shepard is. He wins impossible odds.
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>>722411662
Why does everyone draw the awkward, bookish archaeologist with the sluttiest outfits?
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>>722411662
>dead
>not compatible
>barren
>not canon
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>>722411772
>barren
Miranda is barren?
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>>722411726
>They are gauging what Shepard is
You'd think TIM would've done that before spending a quadrillion credits on resurrecting a single dude
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>>722411772
Don't care, I'm gooning to my renegade mommy.
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>>722411898
He did. TIM says repeatedly if you're paragon that he thinks you're too idealistic and likely to disobey his orders, but still knows you're the galaxy's best bet. Remember Miranda wanted to collar Shepard but TIM said no.
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>>722411426
You can kill Shepard with a bullet too. But Shepard altered entire causal lines.
Reapers are of questionable materiality. They have a theme of cruel, bitter mercy and pity to them in how they treat mortals. In their way they preserve life, enslaving it at the same time. But they don't exterminate it uselessly
They inherit this pragmatic, inhuman nihilistic caretaking from Leviathans. That should say all you need about their character.
Dying doesn't matter to them, even though they seethe in some manner about the unruliness of the Reapers - an ironic unruliness precisely because Reapers are chaotic too.
In some respects they are already dead. Everyone in Mass Effect is.

Cerberus isn't called Cerberus just because they gatekeep against aliens.
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>>722411662
The ME3 dress looks so shit. ME2's was much better.
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I asked ChatGPT to create IRL FemShep based on her ME3 canon appearance. Thoughts? I think she's kinda cute.
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>>722412212
IRL FemShep looks exactly like in her contest art piece.
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>>722411772
>virmire-ing Ashley
you gay son
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>>722412028
>He did
And yet he's apparently doing it again, in the single most retarded, most badly written way he can
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>>722411662
Anyone else find it kinda weird that the N7 program produces cocktail dresses for its female graduates? How many of them can there be?
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>>722411898
That was their first gauge.
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>>722411993
If I came on her scars, would she die?
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>>722412418
It would be very painful.
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>>722412330
Don't reply to the ME2-fag
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>>722408734
Honestly I stop at ME1 its better to pretend the series ended on an uncertain high note.
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>>722412341
Only the hot ones get the dress.
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>>722412683
So even fewer than before. And Jane's a ginger so she wouldn't count.
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>>722412485
4her
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I
HAVE WONDERED ABOUT YOU
WHERE WILL YOU BE
WHEN THIS IS THROUGH
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Noveria > Virmire > Feros > Therum
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>>722403828
no. im pragmatic. ashley is a generic disposable grunt. kaiden has space magic powers.
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>>722413339
Yeah but the majority of squadmates across all games are biotic. Ashley is one of, what, four possible soldiers? One is you, and another is DLC.
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>>722413428
...okay, and?
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>>722413717
And it's boring. It's why I'll never roll a biotic myself; you are spoiled for squaddie choice.
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>>722366781
>Sacrifice perfectly good pussy
>Sacrifice faggots
You already know the answer. Ashley sucked my dick for three games.
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>>722366781
Kaiden's class in the game was pretty awful, and he didn't bring much to the table in terms of character.
Soldier can at least be useful on missions.
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>>722413954
Kaidan is a fucking monster in 3. Shame you can't use him in earnest until over half way through the game.
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>>722413954
Sentinel is great wtf are you talking about
>can decrypt anything and gets the best tech skills due to it
>useful biotics like throw and lift
>basically frees up 2 characters slots for whatever else you want
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I have a debilitating FemShep x Krogan fetish
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>>722414251
Who gives a shit, you're running with Tali and Wrex/Garrus 24/7 anyway.
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Kaidan's cool. He's always been cool.
https://youtu.be/DwSz3lYfN6Q?t=24
https://youtu.be/dTPduX5lKi8
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>>722414362
Kaidan and Liara are the dream team. Singularity will clear out an entire room regardless of size or difficulty.
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>>722414440
No, Kaidan pretty much never has a spot.
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>>722414362
Just say you think Kaidan is a fag then instead of making up a reason
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i always wanted them both to die
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>>722414362
>he doesn't roleplay his squad selection per mission
Cringe
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>>722414375
carth was an annoying whiny faggot and i always kept him on the ebonhawk cause his faggy interjections got on my nerves
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>>722414486
Barrier and First Aid. Kaidan is indestructible and able to rez the entire team.
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>>722413789
giwtwm
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>>722414487
?
You run with Tali and Garrus/Wrex because that is objectively the best team to use. Kaidan is fucking useless.
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>>722414724
>Being a minmaxing fag
kek
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Other companion's quotes:
>Stand in the ashes of a trillion souls and ask if honor matters, silence is your answer
Kaiden quotes:
>Big place!
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>>722415128
He's literally me fr fr
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>>722366781
This whole debate never made sense. The game doesn't frame this decision as "choose who to save", it presents a military strategy dilemma and asks you to make a decision - each ends with either of the two as casualties. Thinking of it as companion selection for the rest of the playthrough is cringe metagaming, not roleplaying
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>>722408734
ME2 is literally about the friends you make along the way, hence the only real consequence is that they may get blown up or shot or have a beam fall on them in the suicide mission
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>>722372724
My brother once asked me who to prioritize, I told him Kaiden, he replied that I said that because Ashley is a woman he was right
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given that the dark matter plot was abandoned- why is the series called 'mass effect'
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>>722415292
Maybe for your first playthrough but you can't just delete your memories and start over. You know how the game works afterwards.
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>>722415486
Because it's the central technology under which the entire setting works. Weapons? Mass effect fields. Interplanetary travel? Mass effect fields. Relays? Mass effect fields. Plus it sounds science fiction-y enough to denote the IP as one while not forcing the games to be or feature any one specific thing (ie every Elder Scrolls game has to feature the elder scrolls because they're in the title, and even though it doesn't refer to them directly every Dragon Age game has to feature dragons because the're also in the title)
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>>722415486
They couldn't exactly call it Knights of the Old Republic 3
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>>722415486
because your choices have a MASS EFFECT™ on the story
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>>722408008
The problem with the reapers is the initial interaction with sovereign, which I hate to say because it's so kino
they're made out to be some ancient eldritch horror that has motives that are literally beyond human comprehension, so any 'rational' explanation is going to be unsatisfying, whether it's dark matter or AI nonsense. The idea of an incomprehensible machine race is neat but ultimately writes you into a corner.
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>>722415773
But their motives ARE incomprehensible.
Just not in the way BioWare intended.
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to this day I still find the deliberate insertion of an IGN "journalist" into ME3 far far more egregious than the ending
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>>722416274
If only we knew
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>>722367039
I did the same. I was also a magic space wizard and kaiden was a bro.
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>>722367180
keep that greaseball shit outta the thread. I'm not gonna tell ya twice.
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I love Liara for incredibly generic reasons
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>>722366781
I used to choose to sacrifice Ashley every time, but after one playthrough where I decided to change things up I didn't and now I always sacrifice Kaiden. I don't know it just feels like she gets better story progression.
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>>722367039
p4p the gayest post on /v/ - Video Games
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>>722417301
No Liara, I don't feel like roleplaying as a Prothean tonight
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>>722366781
Kaidan, because Ash is racist
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>>722366781
As a child it was Ashley because
>romance option
But as an adult I realize Ashley is maybe the worst girl in the series, and even gets a far superior replacement as far as dark haired human woman goes in the sequel (pic related)

Kaiden is boring AF and is a shitty Carth-lite but I guess he has magic powers and is higher rank so he can life I guess (wish you could kill both)
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>>722366781
Killed the gay
Fucked the rookie
Discard both in ME2 for the frogman



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