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>>722388784i just wanna talk about the game man
it was good in the beggining, but now I'm on chapter 3 and the game feels dragged, it's the same shit over and over
>>722388751don't care where's rean
>>722389061don't play the next 15 games in the trails series then
I finished the original for the first time because I find the visual style of the remake unappealing.
She should have glasses in canon.
>>722388751Kloze a qt
>>722389258I mean it's the kinda of thing that maybe worked back there, they could have done something more appealing to endure the game, it really feels like 90% of the dialogue wasn't necessary
>i apparently lost BP for killing the duke during that fighthonestly it was obvious in hindsight but whatever
>>722389618not disagreeing with you, but that's just falcom. They see lots of dialogue as compensation for their lesser visuals and fidelity. Some of the dialogue does get tiresome, but I think it would have been fine if the game was truly fully voiced.
>>722389620it's basically impossible to get A rank bracer without guidefagging so dont worry about it
I think it's a great remake, but falcom really has to hire a fucking team of balancers. The combat is so bat shit insane, it's just too much. I'm at the end with a olivier + Schera team and clock up +that craft that boosts turn order makes me able to never let the opponent get a turn. Also what the fuck were they smoking giving clock up ex a free turn.
Why are Trailsfags so autistic?
>>722390194i got recommended this too. When did this epidemic of lets plays disguised as montages become the norm?
bros????????
Is there no dress mod for Joshua yet? I don't want to continue until it exists.
So huh do we have a confirmation of who has panties?
>>722390385Sponge cake is PEOPLE!
Is it just me or does it feel like they gave up on creating iconic monster designs after the first few games?
>>722390250They're actually closer to summaries/analysis than a playthrough. The guy was just autistic.
>>722391192AI is still hilarious.
>>722389426Blonde glasses Schera just werks.
>>722389618Yeah, it seems to be a mix of the Japanese fetish for reinforcement by consensus, trying to artifically equalize the number of lines per voice actor to please the unions and good old fashioned shitty writing
>>722389164>t. The entire Japanese fanbase
>>722388751I'm having fun, but I'm also going at a very relaxed pace, currently still working my way through Bose. I haven't played a Trails game since CS1 so all the new combat changes are a bit confusing, but I think I mostly get it.
>>722392005I don't think they're equalizing lines per voice actor by choice, I think it's a budget issue. That's why you get some scenes where some random NPC is voiced but the main characters are not, because the MCs lines are budgeted elsewhere.
Probably my favorite remake ever so far.
wish there's an auto attack for sc
So can we see Tita panties yet?
>>722388751I did, when the original released. Will not play the remake to not tarnish the memory.
Beat it just a few days ago. Now debating whether I want to suffer through SC Nightmare again or try the NG+ in the remake with +50 enemy lv.Honestly it's pretty good, easily the best game that game out in 2025.
Finally have time to play the game. I'm playing on Nightmare and so far I would say the difficulty is just right. The only thing that gave me a little bit of trouble so far were the Crop Munchers but that was literally because I didn't redo my orbment setup and had no AOE to clear the reinforcements. I just did the Josette boss fight at the end of the prologue and I also cleared it with only 1 try. It was literally just delay spamming with both Schera (using Lightning when she was zero cast) and Joshua while Estelle was just lighting them up with Flare Arrow. I even thought I fucked up at the beginning with her not having Earth Guard on her setup but I didn't end up needing it.I really like that they give you more tools in the beginning unlike the OG so the start is not pure RNG hell. I'm extremely excited to play more over the weekend. I really like this difficulty so far.
>>722388751Haha...
10 years ago, yeah.
>>722390385Wouldn't カステラ be translated as Castella, even AI would translate it like that.
>>722392005I think you are just a retard and have never playes a Trails game. That's more likely.
>>722399429Man, I discovered Earth Guard right after the prologue and it carries you through the rest of the game. Great art.
>>722388751No. Game is mid af. It looks nice and all but the story is ahh and just a glorified tutorial. I regret buying this piece of shit over Sonic racing or Silent Hill.
>>722405253Wait until you find out about Sylphen Wing and Clock Up EX. And of course Earth Wall since it will be basically required to avoid everyone dying from you-know-who's S-craftWind arts are also still as good as the OG
I finished it. I'd rate it an 8.5. They need to fix the combat UI in 2nd, but I doubt they will since this is the fourth game with lack of sorted arts and crafts in the combat menu. Categorized arts with tabs was even a thing in the old games, but not in the new ones after Reverie. Sifting through 20 arts is a fucking nightmare.
Am I only one who think difficulty is little broken. Singular bosses are easy but my god mob bosses are hard even on normal. Capua family annihilated me 3 times because it's like fighting normal boss but getting 5 attacks per your turn.
>>722388751Yes, I'm on chapter 3 and I really enjoy the cozy, journey of discovery feel of the game.My only gripe is that there is too much vast green plains, I wish the game was a little more varied in its scenery.Also Tita is cute. CUTE.
>got to the last dungein>missing one recipeFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK
>>722396134NoShe got some good mods though...
>>722407113Prologue is harder than anything else, except the second Lorence fight maybe. Some anons also struggled with the Ravens but it's more about trying to avoid triggering rage all at the same time and spamming Kloe's S-craft whenever you are slightly inconvenienced.Against bosses or tougher enemy groups always go Clock Up(EX when you really need a turn right now)->Sylphen Wing(or Weiss Aura when Kloe is present)->Earth Guard/Wall->crafts that inflict delay. Estelle's Morale helps keeping CP up and doing more damage with physical stuff, which is extremely good here because it includes full burst.Whatever helps you go fast/slow down enemies is always good, such as the Action/Cast/Impede quarts and accessories with SPD. Stack as much as possible on all your characters(except Cast if you don't plan to use arts with them I guess). It's also possible to max out evasion on at least one character, but the most broken shit you can do is having everyone around 40~ + Foresight up, which will give your entire party 90% dodge rate.
its crazy how unrealistic the npcs are in kiseki
>>722408036Well the original is a 2004 game.
>they still don't know
>>722407210Read all your books. One of them is from a book.
>>722408372i got that one. now i have to go find a guide to see which one i missed.
>>722388751Beat it a few days ago. Gud remake. Second Chapter when?
>>722408741>Second Chapter when?Maybe 2026 Q2? They already have most of the assets ready.
>>722408791>Maybe 2026 Q2?So far away...
>>722409106Small indie company please understand
>>722408372>>722408628i found it. it was the stew in the nebel valley. oh well i'll just do a quick run through from there after i finish
>>722408741Almost certainly within a year. The teaser at the end of the game is game footage from 2nd.
>>722408036That line would be censored if NISA/Xseed were localizing it.
>Lorence second fight immediately starts out with body-splitShat myself a little ngl. Thought they were going to just make you fight the SC version.
>>722388751I started it recently and didn't play demo so I had to start in prologue. On chapter 1, and I just found the secret cave despite trying my best to 100%, I missed the prologue cave. To be fair, I have played the original and these caves didn't exist so I didn't look for them. Loaded an old save and all I missed was one of those zeram items so it's not a big deal since I usually end trails games with a bunch of them anyways. Love the Olivier scenes in remake and I can't wait to see Ruan area and Zwiss/Tita! I already found a few Tita mods but I can't test them yet of course since she's a late game character.
>>722411574The caves are easy to see on the map come on now.
>>722388784It's free and has no DRM, bitch
>>722388751the "talk with every npc after they update their dialogue" is KILLING me now that I'm in Ruan, but I will not falter...
>>722389258FC is much worse/the worst, tho.
>>722411717Ironically enough Trails cured me of that.Fuck actually talking with every NPC on every minor happening, only for them to say nothing interesting anyway. I didn't do that shit in the remake and consider it easily 2025 goty.
>>722411620dude I said I wasn't looking for them. I played the original like 2 years ago to do a 100% BP/ book run. You don't understand how easy it is to miss something you're not expecting. My eye is on the map for chests, not looking for passages I never knew existed.
I always hated the first game but this remake was so good, bros. Looking forward to replay SC eventually.
>>722411931I just explore everything you can before progressing. Went in expecting new content since I'm not literally replaying the original FC.
>>722412020I do too but I wasn't looking at the walls the whole time cause I've played the original multiple times and was expecting no secret caves. I don't get why you don't understand this.
>>722411806I heard there's a lot of missable content and since I like doing everything in one playthrough I'm talking to everyone to not miss anythingstill, I'm sure I'll end up missing ONE stupid thing that will fuck up my playthrough lol
>>722412129Because no one expected the caves specifically but they are easy to see just by trying to fill the map, that's hardly an argument.
>>722405065It's called sponge cake in english, no one in an english speaking country says Castella.
>>722412209Kill yourself faggot.
>>722390194Bigger fanbase = more normies, casuals and riff raffSmaller fanbase = more schizos, losers and incels
>>722412347Stay mad
>>722389747A rank? It's FC, not SC, thank goodness. You have quite a bit of headroom unlike the second part where you have no BP to spare.
>>722412489It's more that I don't like getting into arguments over pedantic shit like that. I prefer posting Tita or stuff that actually matters in the game. Always the stupidest minor shit causes you schizo to go off.
Anons, I'm finally getting into Trails after like 10 years of people telling me to try it and saying it's kino. I just started chapter 2, but I still haven't had the hook so far in the story to keep me interested. Does it get better in FC, or is TitS as a whole just mostly "setup for the next 50 games"? Or am I the problem here and it's supposedly already considered kino at this point?Better yet, can anyone give me a short breakdown of what to expect with the next 10 years of my life if I actually get into this series and play everything? Is it worth it and I am really about to get on some crazy ride, or is it mid shit?
>>722388784Fuck off Nintendo pajeet
>Joshua clearly wants to fug Estelle>Everyone in their village assumes they're fugging>Estelle: No he's my little brother!What the fuck is her problem
Do later Trails games get better if I found 1st chapter very mid? Specifically the gameplay. I just found the general flow of>reach new town>text text text text text text text>accept 10 sidequests and do them>stoy and more text>repeatto be very repetitive and boring.
>>722413125that is every single trails game from the very first to the very last
>>722388751Should I play the remake or the original?
>>722413056FC just shows the towns and chemistry between Estelle and Joshua. SC shows the villains plans finally in motion + endgame. So yeah, it's better.
>>722413109>What the fuck is her problemIts even more retarded because at the second half of the game it actually starts to be the opposite and Estelle realized that she wants his dick badly and suddenly Joshua turns into that retarded ass "oblivious guy that doesnt notice that a girl wants him" trope.
>>722413056FC is half of the full game, FC+SC was originally meant to be the game but it would have been like 100 hours long
feel like i should just play the original instead since part 2 and 3 don't have a remake
>>722413125Trails always has too much text, but FC is the only game where NOTHING happens.
>>722413109Estelle also wants to bone Joshua ironically enough and somehow he also doesn't notice that.
>>722413281>FC+SC was originally meant to be the game but it would have been like 100 hours longWish they just released that for the remake. Leaving 3rd as a separate game is fine, but come the fuck on why are we doing this shit again for FC and SC? >inb4 moneyThey got none from me either way.
>>722413125bro just play through 40 hours of this slog bro i promise it gets better after 60 hours bro and if not it will only take another 20 hours bro until the story gets REALLY CRAZY bro bro.
>>722389164unironically
>>722413897Except that’s actually how it is. Starting with 3rd it actually gets crazy good. It’s like crying about a movie that doesn't start with action every 2 seconds. Sorry if your Tiktok brain can’t handle slower paced media that pay off later on.
>>722411717the indicators for new dialogue make it worse. i had no idea they updated so often in the og
>>722413125welcome to jrpgs
>>722414204there are plenty of jrpgs that have good gameplay, interesting worldbuilding, well-written dialogue and characters you want to grow with, from the get go.trails has none of those things.
>>722413125nigga this is like 90% of jrpgs ever madewhy do people constantly shit on trails for shit tons of other jrpgs dolike if you hate jrpgs fine but if you don't then thats just a bullshit complaint
>>722388751It was a fine remake I guess but it doesn't really feel like they fixed any of the issues of the original game which in my mind is what a Remake should really strive to do. At best the new things like the combat just feel like sidegrades. I supposed reducing the amount of backtracking with the fast travel was a good addition since it's not like the dungeons and highways are all that interesting anyway. It could have been more worse but I don't really feel like they took advantage of the fact that it was a remake.
>if you don’t appreciate it getting good after 60 hours, you don’t like JRPGs (just ignore every DQ/Final Fantasy/any other game in the genre)Not sure this cope is working. Instead of pushing people away from your mandatory remake product, you should be convincing people to buy it.
>it's a ragecuck pretends it's his first time playing episode
>>722415076>you should be convincing people to buy it.but how do we do that if the game is shit?
loving the remake and can't wait for SC for some Anelace kino
>>722415408the demo will probably be the full prologue again
>>722388751The remake was a nice trip down Nostalgia lane but it reminded me of how much the series has evolved over the years and a complete 1:1 remake of the original 2004 game just feels so empty.I forgot how so many of the quests in the original game were just "kill monster" and "collect item". Yeah the later games had that stuff too but most of the side quests had some kind story attached to them which is completely lacking in FC. From what I remember SC fixes this but yeah FC's sidequests are the most simple in the entire series.The lack of minigames or really anything to do outside of combat at all also made the game feel a bit more empty compared to a lot of the sequels. The character building options in FC were basically non-existent. Every character needs Action 3, Cast 3, Ep cut 3 etc. There's so few quartz and so few quartz slots that while I do enjoy the combinations of elements unlocking new spells as much as I did then compared to the later games the build variety and progression is just non-existent. Estelle and Joshua are still my favorite protagonists in the series but I found a lot of game design decisions to be pretty lacking compared to what the series did in later games/arcs and this remake feels a bit too faithful for its own in good in that regard.
>>722407960If it's the breasts increase mod no thanks.
>>722388751I'm tired of villains being the guy wearing glasses.
>>722413125Play Cold Steel. It's the best in the series, but stop at 2 it goes downhill from there.
>>722416209shut the fuck up retard
>>722416247Cold Steel is literally the only reason why trails series is so big.
>>722416093>I forgot how so many of the quests in the original game were just "kill monster" and "collect item".Bracers literally exist to do pointless side quests, in the later games there's more of a reason for the characters to be doing interesting things
>>722416401it's the worst arc in the series
>>722416153I'm obviously not talking about that kind of shit
>>722416712The only nude mod has her with breasts increase.
I was disappointed that they nerfed the second Lorence fight into the ground. So much so that I felt compelled to boot up a 2014 save in the original to fight him there. I miss when superbosses were allowed to heal a third of their hp bar on a whim.
>>722417050It's not really that they nerfed him, it's that the players just have access to so much broken shit that they don't balance in the newer combat systems and they don't compensate for it. I hate how much free damage and free buffs they constantly give you now.
playing this made me realize how bad my memory is. I remembered so much less than I thought. that's what I get for doing drugs I guess
>>722416913Have you tried the swimsuit one that lets you peek at her flat chest
>>722417106I don't mind the free buffs, I feel it gives a good identity to each character and helps them stand out from each other in combat. But I do feel that they didn't compensate for the overall higher mobility, damage output, and resource replenishment rate. And that's nothing to say of any of the broken stuff like clock ex, sylphen wing, or impede spam.
The dialogue is what youd expect from a kids cartoon and the cutscene pacing is terribleI dont understand how someone puts resources into realizing this script in a modern game.
>>722417563Ok now you interested me. Guessing it's on ATF?
It’s worse than the originalIt won’t be complete for at least 2 yearsBuy an ad
>>722388751I played the demo but it felt like I was playing/watching a life of slice anime rather than a video game. Maybe I've been spoiled by other JRPGs where the main villain is introduced early. But it feels like you're just doing chores. I found the relationship between Estelle and Joshua pretty cute though. I don't know whether to buy it or not. Like I did enjoy the demo but I could feel myself getting burnt out at the lack of agency. Like in FF7 for example, you're literally thrust into the world as part of a terrorist organisation blowing up reactors. Where's the hook for this game?
>>722418561its kinda like a casual game where you go do chrones, grind through repetitive combat and get redundant stream of small rewards
>>722418140There's like 1 thread while other games get spammed much more. I wish the mods would get rid of gacha shit but while they allow that shit, you can't complain about 1 trails thread.>>722418561probably not for you, the real shit happens in the second game, this one is more "comfy" basically the hook is the cliffhanger at the end
>>722418662>>722418701>probably not for youProbably not. I was expecting something to happen in the Jade Tower. Like they come across a mysterious evil or something. It was giving me Grandia II vibes, where Ryudo helps Elena in the tower at the beginning of the game. But it ended up being a nothingburger. Oh well. I'll wait for C2
>>722418561The main villain is introduced early though.
>>722418140Again: kys tendiejeet
Trails of Subhuman
SC remake when? Liked the remake a lot. I may 100% it like the original
>>722419709Soon(TM)
>>722411717Used to do that then in Crossbell I ignored npcs like the casino ones and the East market ones
>>722418140let me guess, it's OK when fire emblem has no less than 2 threads up 24/7
>>722388751Started on nightmare, I was trying over and over to beat the Pine Plant+, finally beat it and it fucking SELF DESTRUCTS REEEEEI did beat it after that though. Plants ill like fire.I do think it's weird how action combat is babby mode literal free-win, but turn based mode you can get one-turned with no recourse. Of course I expected the latter but I wonder why the action part is trivial on nightmare.
>>722419056yeah the towers are used more in the next game. In this game it's only to introduce you to the professor who might as well be a faceless npc with how boring he is.
>>722418701>>722419529>>722420051saar redeem my zoomerified sora no kiseki pleeesss
>>722420201>Indian fag calling anyone saarGo back to scamming old white grandmas over Google play cards sanjay
>>722420201Don't you need to shill the new jeet emblem, Nintendo marketer?
>>722418561>Where's the hook for this game?For me, it's the smaller scale. It's not like marvel shit where the stakes are instantly pushed to the max, it's being dropped into a minor role with low stakes to explore a fairly cohesive world.Setting the stakes super high is lazy from a writing perspective, because then character motivations are synonymous with plot development, so you can get away with not developing characters at all.Not saying Trails has particularly good writing, but it actually has to hit some of the fundamentals when the plot stakes aren't mooting everything else.
>>722420298>>722420384Saar nooo no no benchod bitch you the indian im proud aryan race saar redeem remake nooowww!!!!
>>722420576Uh oh meltyBut do not redeem saaar
>>722420648Saar redeem nooow!!
Just got the game. Anything worth knowing ahead?
>>722420576Pathetic nintendie.
>>722420803Don't pull out when you're about to coom in Estelle. Give her a baby
>>722411717I am fine with talking with everyone just for worldbuilding and getting mini NPC character arcs as time passes, but my main gripe with it is you have to talk to them twice to remove the indicator that they have something new to say and 90% of the time it is the same line as the first time but slightly tweaked or shorter and adds nothing. It was the same in the original and also in later entries so nothing new but it just feels unnecessary and wastes your time.
>>722421062>it is the same line as the first time but slightly tweaked or shorter This shit always confused me, it's already a lot of work to update npcs but to add the same dialogue but a little different is a retarded over job
>>722421062that's why I'm happy to not be a NPC dialogue autist in this series
why is cooking so bad in 1st?I'm swimming in both sepith and money because these idiots keep fucking up the recipes and the only reliable way to get the monster ingredients is committing genocide in the hidden caves.
>>722421269did you get permanent stat bonuses in fc for cooking? pretty sure I completely ignored it if it did exist
>>722388751>finally get myself to play old Trails in the sky for the first time>they announce remake like 2 months afterfuck them, I will probably never play it because I rarely replay the games graphic looks nice tho
I bought tales of arise on sale a few days ago despite not usually playing this kind of game and having fun playing it, is trails in the sky similar? might grab it in the future
>>722421770It's a turn based game so no.It has action combat but that is used as a minigame to stun tougher enemies before entering turn based combat or just to kill low level enemies fast.
>>722420815Im not nintendi saar im hindi master race ples buy sora remake
>>722421269Just savescum cooking.
>>722421770Tales of Arise was way better than First Chapter.
>>722422661FUCK no it isnt
>>722392247when she becomes more renowned around the world i hope shes called The Anal Ace
>>722422738Yeah it is because the gameplay is way better and it has a proper ending instead of a giant sequel bait.
>>722388751I just finished the game and got interested in the series, so I asked what I should play before SC comes out, and the Falcom bros just said 'Save your Kino for SC'. They said everything else is slop and not even worth playing. Is that really true?
>>722422990>>722423101no it's not true. the quality varies a lot but anyone saying to only play FC and SC aren't even trails fans they are contrarian faggotseither wait for 2nd Chapter remake or play SC. Or I'd also suggest Ys VIII
>>722423101Crossbell duology is also good but you need to play the Sky trilogy first.Cold Steel games are a hit or miss based on your tolerance of anime cliches and Gary Stu's.You don't need to play previous games for Cold Steel 1 and 2.
>>722422990meant to tell you you have dogshit taste, enjoy your bonus (You)
>>722423290>either wait for 2nd Chapter remake or play SC. Or I'd also suggest Ys VIIIYou are the Falcombros I am referring to.
>>722420803Always do the blue and green quest markers before moving the story forward.
>>722423304>Gary Stuis Rean too much of a gary stu? I always see people hating on him but I haven't played the CS games yet
>>722419056This post is hilarious.
>>722423496I'm not telling you not to play the other games, I'm saying to play SC next one way or another whether it's the remake or original
in the final dungeon and i don't wanna finish because i'll have nothing to play until january
>>722423691man up and play the original SC or get into Ys desu
>>722423862She was telling Estelle how big Joshua's cock was
>>722423862
>>722423992
>>72242408616 out of 10!
>>722423543Too many special abilities and every female falls in love with him.
>>722423581>ask for a Trails game to play while I wait for the SC remake>get told "just play SC original now or wait"You're saying the same thing as them.
>>722417050I think he got three turns when I fought him. Way too easy.In the original, it's basically a coinflip whether he just decides to kill you or not.
>>722424235>every female falls in love with himoh he's just like me then, haha...
>>722422073thanks for the input however I am tempted by the anime waifus, if it goes on a sale or discount I think I'll give it a shot
>>722424372I dunno dude, just skip straight to Cold Steel IV then
Finally met the fabled Anal ace!
>>722424791
>>722425065Oops sorry haha I'm putting it away
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>>722424567that's the next 3D game with Estelle in so good advice
my steam profile is forever marked
thinking of going with Kloe and Oliver for the final boss as that was my OG team but Agate and Zin have been so much fun to use in the remake
>>722425538Just make a save before the final boss.
>>722419347love kloe rinz
Who's your favorite minor character? For me it's professor Alba. He's really funny and kind.
>>722424372play daybreak 1 and 2 for renne
>>722425538kloe is a busted character, cant believe she has a regen+foresight aura, teamwide full rez + shield, and CC all baked into her base kit.
>>722388751Played the original many years ago, I don't feel the need to replay it because the 2nd entry and the 3rd one are so much better than the first trails, it's not even funny, the fond memories I have for the series are for those 2 titles alone.
>>722426598kloe is the only reason i ever beat FC and SC
>>7224273142nd has really bad pacing at the beginning. i think it will disappoint a lot of new players
>>722427651They should have fused 2 games as one desu and remove the filler from the beginning in SC
>>722426345Heh, what a mild-mannered, completely non-threatening guy.
>>722427836Yeh he's really weak haha. Like in the tower where I got him down he died and I got a game over.
>>722425000FC Anelace is kinda just there. SC is when she is cute
>>722421223It made perfect sense originally exactly because NPCs having more to say if you talk to them again is so common that players are encouraged to do it, so when the NPC doesn't have more to add, they instead give a shortened version so you can move on with fewer button presses. That these shortened versions are considered "new dialog" in the remake is definitely bad though. They probably just couldn't be bothered to go through it all to check.
I'm on SC and it's way better than FC but definitely loses much of the charm
>>722388751Oh my god they were roomates......
>>722389061Welcome to trails, the most overshilled vidya series
Is there a better strategy on NG Nightmare than spamming chaos brand? Been doing that on every boss fight since the lighthouse.
>>722413125FC has 2nd least text out of every game in the series
>>722430340I wonder how many pages of "Haha..." there have been.
>>722430449In game or on /v/?
>>722430529I meant in game but it's often quoted here too.
>>722430449hasn't been updated in years but should give you some idea
>>722430252....bump?
>>722430062'cept kloe wants her pussy stuffed by joshua
>>722430252I am a fetus that just started the game for the first time on nightmare, and the strongest strat so far appears to be Joshua hasting himself to get another turn to cast haste on himself to get another turn to cast haste on himself to
Tita LOVE
>>722433758Clock Up EX? Everyone can use that as long you have the required quartz on the same line.Anyway, rough tier list of the characters in the remake >Kloe tierKloe, she bends the game in half by having everything you need defensively plus delays and good arts damage. It's nearly impossible to lose as long you can reliably get her to 100 CP.>very strong Joshua, enables delay abuse and hits hard enough, that's all really.Agate, he hits really hard and gives himself CP. Can make him S-break every turn if you want.>still goodSchera, her craft is good but a little overrated imo because everyone can clock up ex here. She relies on arts for damage but is locked to only strong wind arts. They are good mind you, but at times enemies will resist them and severely cripple her output.Zin, he hits hard and has some situationally useful support crafts, but not as much as Agate.>Eh tierEstelle, better than OG for sure and can be used for stuns effectively but has not too many strong points otherwise. Olivier, his support crafts are kinda nothing here, so he's similar to Schera but without what makes her good.>Tita tierTita, weakest damage in the game, most likely to get oneshot, her smoke cannon is not completely useless or anything but if the blind fails you just wasted the turn. Her support is ok but you wouldn't need it if you had literally anyone else.
>>722388751Fun and comfy. I'm actually having fun talking to NPCs it reminds me of Xenoblade 2's Torna>>722426345This cute dork. I'm normally not into glasses girls but Dorothy is so fucking adorable I want to stuff her in a pocket and take her home with me>>722434839Tita a cute!
>>722434839Tita sounds like a 30 year old in the remake..
>>722388784>NOOOO STOP TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES YOU'RE KILLING THE TWITTER SCREENCAP AND BAIT SHITPOSTING THREADS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>722437274i like that the camera has a weird retro design in the newer games it feels like they just go to google images and copy the first image they see whenever they want to put any kind of technology into the games
>>7224162092 is the shittiest of the CS games.
>>722388751im having fun with the remake. but my ADHD attention is being grabbed by a other game at the moment.
>>722422661Tales of Arise isn't even a good tales game.
>>722388751i played the demo and really liked it, I'll get it later
>>722438038the earlier games definitely have that early technology charm.
>>722436529>Agate, he hits really hard and gives himself CP...
>>722438203For me it was 3.CS1? Actually kinda good, don't mind Rean much or anything really, it has the same vibe as FC but no cool not!siblings romance.CS2? The plot is dumb but I love that battle music and the mech fights are cool. Only thing I really disliked is the last chapters. What were they thinking? Genuinely what the fuck? They even made the not!final boss into a recolor of the not!final boss of CS1, why?CS3? The writing makes it unplayable I mean it, and it's also terribly paced. Early chapters especially are insufferable holy fuck.CS4? It has Estelle so it must be good right. Eeeh it's just fine, I didn't hate it even if you-know-what is really fucking dumb.
>>722433091Only after she saw him, i mean 'her', in the princess dress.
>>722436529Why didn't they buff Tita? Fuck it, still using her. I hope they buff her in SC. I know she's good in 3rd. I used her in SC until late game where I decided to use Zin cause she had no real single target options.
>>722439512It's cool, you can beat the final boss on Nightmare with everyone.Give her blind blade I guess, and the rest goes into getting Clock Up EX and Anti-Sept All so she can help shutting down the enemies entirely. Focusing on damage is a complete waste, and her orbment lines are shit so you focus on the black quartz if you want to have turns at all. Guess you can also stick Impede so if you miss the blind you still stop arts/get a delay.
>>722438038I really love it too it's very charming. As >>722438638 put it that's probably a part of it. But something about the art direction in general has a blockier look? Things look more rustic? I don't know how to describe it but as I'm starting to look at older JRPGs I'm struck by how much more charming the art styles are compared to newer games. I suppose things like the technology are more of result of the era's trends and technological limitations (I assume things like exagerrated proportions made more sense when character models had to be shrunk and simplified).Using this artwork of Tita as an example. She has a homely look and the big boots and goggles make her stand out. The design is detailed but it's not overly designed like modern gacha characters. It feels properly grounded for its setting. A lot of other modern JRPGs almost feel like they loosely modified modern outfits and plaster them into fantasy settings. It's very jarring.>in the newer games it feels like they just go to google images and copy the first image they see whenever they want to put any kind of technology into the gamesThat is a shame. Assuming it's true I can't help but wonder how much creativity and skills in art are lost because of technology. Convenience makes it too easy to be complacent with decisions. I imagine when technology was less prevalent it forced artists to be more worldly and innovative with designs. It seems to be the case with decline in quality writing (although that could be attributed to people only consuming their own medium leading to cannibalization). So I wouldn't be surprised if artists pulling from pinterest or google images kills something special we once had
>>722438983Well yeh why do you think he loves Tita so much? He basically has unlimited supply of that.
>>722436529Tita's job is to spam vital cannon to keep everyone else topped up on CP. She's the means by which Agate and Joshua can s-craft every turn.Ailment quartz also goes a long way, I gave her death blade and confuse and mixed with smoke cannon that's potential for four different ailments. Then as the other anon said you just get her clock up and anti-sept.
>>722440281Yea I guess giving everyone CP and spam crafts even harder is a way to use her
>>722439870that's nice, I was playing on hard mode so I could use tita but I restarted to play nightmare (on chapter 1) so I was worried. I'm also a fan of Olivier but he's already a mage and it's easy to make them work.
>>722388751The females in this game are completely stress-free. They're all pleasant.Even Amalthea is submissive to Colonel Richard.I've been waiting so fucking long for a game like this.No disgusting girlbosses, no tsunderes, no manipulative whores, no annoying nags.Estelle’s a bit of a brat early on, sure, but she turns into a proper woman by the end and realizes that normal girls wear skirts.It's pure comfy kino.Honestly surprised journos haven't given it a 3/10 for “problematic female stereotypes.”
>>722440474You mean giving her own CP? Would that work if you gave it to Agate so he'd have unlimited CP thanks to Tita? Considering how hard he hit it would be amazing especially on boss fights.
>game is full of sexy girls/women but I'm most interested in the girl in the back
>>722440648Olivier has a weird kit but the damage is there.Tita needed a lot more, although now she kinda reminds me of Towa in CS2 where you can use her in the final dungeon to restore Emma EP, there was a MQ giving her more EP cost for much higher damage iirc.>>722440957What did he mean by this
I will never forgive the cold steel games for how they modernized this battle system, it's so fucking unbalanced. Atleast the opponent got to move in the original game.
>>722440957Yes, Tita loves to give her CP to everyone. For some reason Agate seems upset by this.
>>722441257you dirty lolicon
>>722441796Original FC is fucking boring in gameplay tho. At least in this one you do meme delay/stun setups
>>722441869>>722441257She's so perfect...
>>722441923personal preference but i tend to prefer balanced gameplay with underpowered units. Like I don't know, i guess it's on me. Right now i'm just abusing heavens kiss Schera with a tool that lets her regen 50 craft points per turn. Everyone gets 0 delay, what the fuck were they thinking
>>722441642??>>722441814Well yeh Agate really loves CP, it helps him hit really hard. He's a big buff guy after all so his craft is really good.
>>722442051But Heaven's kiss was in the original too.It was pretty much the only way you are going to ever outspeed Lorence#2
>>722422661I actually played through all of Arise holy shit it's NOT GOOD LMAO.The combat is braindead retarded at lower difficulties and falls apart at higher difficulties because it turns into a really gay form of Monster Hunter but with finishers. You have 2 fucking missing CSS slots by the end, the writing is fucking awful and falls apart really hard especially after the second half, and the characters are straight from a really bad anime.MASSIVE STEP DOWN from Berserias cast.
Translation quality noticeably dropped in chapter 3 and was kind of shit in the finale but overall I'm glad we got this instead of XSEED's shit. Now I don't hate the majority of the cast.
>>722442217it was, but getting CP back wasn't as easy. In the original i abused kloe alot, sieg's debuffs were a lot more effective and consistent.
>>722442317Action JRPG stink because for some reason they think comboing an enemy = cheating and unfair. I don't get in, in Tales of Symphonia and Abyss for the most part you combo and stun enemies just fine. In Arise everything you do legit has 0 impact.
>>722441923In the original game, you have to make choices during battle, especially related to targeting and prioritization. In this game, it's mostly about spamming crafts or arts that hit the entire enemy party, and then in boss fights you might also need to use some buffs.It's not terrible or anything, but I think this was a missed opportunity to walk back some of the power creep in the series.
>>722442659Fair enough but not all the way back to the original where physical is hot garbage
>>722388751I literally just finished it. ended up going "fuck it" and cheesing the last section of the game (bosses) with schera never letting my opponent get a single turn ever because fuck these enemies that have 100/200k hp, and them getting like 20 turns in a row with rage attacks on nightmare where you have no way to counter jack shit. I also missed 2 chests i'm fucking pissed
>>722442950100k HP is nothing when you can shit out s-crafts, full burst and strong arts every turn. And rage is countered by Wall
>>722443152Final boss rage lasts 99 turns.
Are you ready for these two to show up in the Sky 3rd remake in an original door that teases not just the Crossbell remakes but the Calvard bridge game as well?
>>722443604Yes andHe still can't break through good ol' Cock&Wall.
are you guys excited at the idea of them remaking most of the older games? i'd imagine they would atleast do all of sky and crossbell since they don't have 2D entries. They will probably say fuck it and do atleast coldsteel 1 and 2.
>>722441796Speak for yourself buddy, turning Fie into a ghost, Laura into a fucking ogre, and Emma into a tactical nuke was fun as fuck in CS1 and 2.
>>722441796>>722441923>>722442051>>722442659Am I the only one who thinks the remake is harder than the original?
>>722443927Fie shitting crit counters and literally doing more damage in enemy phase was funny
>>722443904honestly i dont think they should go past 3rd because if it doesnt end there theyll just end remaking the entire series and thats the last thing this series needs
>>722444046Did the original even have difficulty settings?
>>722444046Prologue is harder, the rest, eh not really.The real genuinely unplayable bullshit is SC prologue without carry-overs though, you are fully justified in lowering the difficulty there.
>>722444209No. Added in the re-releases and you can tell the game is absolutely not built around them.
>>722443927That stuff was mostly fine. The really broken strat was stacking delay on Rean so that the enemies literally never got a turn. Between the two games, I only recall two bosses being immune to delay.The problem isn't even that it's technically possible to do so, it's that it's one of the most obvious and easiest things to pull off.
>>722444603And you kinda have to do it on nightmare because otherwise early game enemies rape your asshole
>>722444603>The really broken strat was stacking delay on ReanNo it wasn't.
>>722444603>>722443927>Rean "the enemy never gets to play the game" Schwarzer>Fie "literally untouchable" Claussel>Laura "S.trong as fuck" Arseid>Emma "magic nuke" Millstein>Alisa "cp battery" ReinfordWhy was Rean and his entire harem fucking unstoppable in the first two Cold Steels?
>>722445123Actually true. The same game have super bullshit like 100% Evasion Fie or swapping to spam S-crafts.
>>722445123Yes it was.
>>722445259I remember Alisa also had like 3 free revivals CS2.Came into crutch again McBurn because I somehow didn't expect to get wiped by his s-craft.
>>722439304I disliked CS5 AKA Reverie. I liked all 4 CS games, but Reverie was like an expansion pack for CS4. I didn't need another 100 hour game with Rean and the same combat system.
>>722445996Cute.
>>722445417I don't think there's a way to get 100% magic evasion on Fie, so I would call that OP but not outright broken.
>>722390531>no dress yetI just want crossdressing Joshua, why is this so difficult to find.
>>722445584Delay spam is inferior to 0 delay Arts spam.
>>722446152spoken like a cuck who didnt stack impede
>>722445996I would absolutely turn around if I was Joshua
>>722390531There's been one for like a week already
>>722446270to the side or behind you?
>>722443152>wall lasts one hit>several enemies rage at the same time I mean i ended up making joshua have >100% evade, and 82% art evade, but given that i never let the final bosses have a single turn to attack, I was never really able to properly test its effectiveness.
>>722446152Eeh not really.Delay spam is cheap and it means it doesn't even matter what else you are doing because the enemy doesn't play anyways.
>>722445259The harem is strong but when it comes to people talking about busted shit, people always forget about poor Machias...
>>722446564Probability is in your favor, it's unlikely the same party member gets hit twice in a row, or thrice after the resurgence
>>722446382You knowTowards the cute blond one
>>722446270no you wouldnt because joshua only has eyes for brown hair and twintailsfaggot
>>722442950>my friend also missed 2 chestsDamn, why is everyone missing chests.
>>722446664True, his ability to give everyone another turn was pretty cool, and his orbment lines allowed for building him like a walking plague.
>>722388751I already finished itI wanted to play it again on nightmare but everything takes so long to kill, oh well
>>722447303i didn't know about the "there's still chests on this map" map icon until i'd gotten into the final dungeon.
>>722447319CS had orbment lines?
>>722447337I did the opposite. I played through on nightmare, and my second run is now instead on very easy.
>>722447303I replayed SC earlier this year, and...uh....
>>722447456>very easydamn you must be trying to speedrun the game this time around
>>722447496I hate this shit, happens to me every game
>>722447539i'm only missing the chest achievement, the 100 final boss achievement, missing 2 tier 3+ quartz for that achievement, and the last 2 rewards for killing shit, so i'd rather burn through it than slog another 40+ hours.
>>722420104remember how this image was something to guffaw at but now all anime is marketed solely towards and made for pie chart mutant amerimutt children who wear ahegao plastered hoodies and play fortnite all day long
felt the game was too easy and only now realized i have all this junk in my box. Goddamn I can be even stronger LOL, i'm at the end of the game and just never needed to use any on extreme.
>>722447382In the sense that it had separate lines that you could use to place multiple of the same brand of quartz. Machias was good for slotting debufs and status quartz because he has like 4 separate lines. Terrible for arts but with the aoe nature of his attacks it made him useful for inflicting whatever the fuck on enemies. Great crowd control.
>>722447380>i didn't know about the "there's still chests on this map" map iconThat's a thing?
>>722418140>It won’t be complete for at least 2 yearswhat does this mean
>>722447496AAAAAAAAAAAAAA I MISSED ONE CHEST IN THE FC REMAKE TOO
>>722446351The one on LL that I saw (labeled Cecilia) was a short dress based on the one he wore in the play, is that the one you mean?
>>722447876The funny part of the image is that he's a lookalike of Johan Andersson who made all the paradox grand strategy games and it's absurdly out of place
removing full burst and all those boosting effects party members give you randomly during battle would have made extreme much more balanced.
>>722418561You literally meet the main villain in the prologue retard
once you get that R2 field attack normal mobs just become a breeze
>>722449468>about to get hit by a devestating attack>it gets blocked by a team mate and does no damageit really needs to be toned down, atleast the frequency of it.
>>722418561>I must be part of something super important immediately because I'm super specialZoomer be zoomin'
I barely use Clock-UP and Walls and I'm having more fun that way on nightmare
How are Calvard's games in difficulty compared to this one? I hate the orbment system in Kuro 1, I've only played ch1 though. Hopefully it gets at least slightly better in the next ones
I underestimated olivier, i had him as one of the more underwhelming party members but he's broken. His grid is too good, he can pretty much get access to a broken array of artes, he's spamming S+ tier spells nonstop and can easily get sylph wing unlike others.
>>722450537if you use sylph wing you didnt beat the game
>>722450807Did you not play the original? He was the original artes spammer.
Speaking of arts, what the fuck is with the new EP costs. I miss the old costs.
>>722451024Haven't used it at all
>>722450778Daybreak 1 is braindead tier difficulty once you figure out the systems. The only thing that can threaten you are boss S-Breaks, and you have strong, easily spammable shield abilities to handle those. Also, even if you do screw up, you have pretty easy access to a full team revive + heal art to fix everything.Daybreak 2 is a bit more difficult. You face multiple bosses at a time more often, and several of them have status effect mechanics that force you to at least adapt to the enemy. I think they also tuned CP costs a bit so that you have to actually worry about running out, which is a welcome change. Arts are still overpowered, though, especially "the whale" which hits the entire battlefield and removes stat buffs.
>>722443778Yes because 3rd and Crossbell are kino and they can do no wrong
>>722449468Not really.
>>722451760>The only thing that can threaten you are boss S-BreaksI think it's very funny that they introduced a "BOSS S-RANK" warning in the series, so you finally no longer have to just intuit when they're going to pop it, but then it doesn't matter because they always move their next turn to the front of the queue so you can't react anywayAnyway Daybreak 2 is my favorite because between Nadia and Renne spamming whale and Shizuna being Shizuna, no enemy can ever have a buff for more than 5 seconds
>>722388751I like masturbating to these games but not playing them.
Should I go back and play the Crossbell games before Reverie? I still have to get through CS4.
>>722452243average /v/ gamer
Sexo
>meet Olivert>he hits on Joshua>Estelle: YOU’RE ONE OF THEM QUEERS HUHWhoa is she actually based!?
>>722452469Isn't Joshua like 16 and Olivert 26?
>>722452308You should play them before CS4
>>722452567out of 10!
>>722452308Yes, and you should play them before CS4 too. The main appeal of CS4 (for me) was seeing the mashup of all the returning characters with lots of callbacks and references.I actually played CS4 before the Crossbell games, and it's the one game I felt I needed to replay because I missed out on too many of the details. On the other hand, it was kinda fun seeing this huge cast of characters brought in and trying to puzzle out their backgrounds from context clues.
>>722451164i'm aware, i was just thinking that maybe he got powercrept by all the buffs everyone got. All the party members in this game are fairly good. Zin and Tita are the worst but even they are fine.
>>722452083>get ko'd>party member revives you automatically as a side effectatleast that one, come on
Which falcom girls are BUILT for it?
Feels like this game's sales have been kinda lukewarm even though it had a lot going for it. Kind of a shame
>>722445996This shit always bothers me, why would you go into a bath wearing a towel, it makes no sense, aren't there bathing suits in japan for mixed genre baths?
>>722452346
>>722452591>>722452706That's not likely to happen since I don't own either of them but I do have CS4. The introduction of the characters has already basically been ruined since pretty much all of them show up in CS2/3.
>>722453631why are her panties so low?
>>722453631>>722452346Sasuga Falcoom-sama
I was playing the demo and really enjoying it but I got absolutely filtered by the prologue boss. I've been using my buffs, using attacks with delays and using s-crafts to steal bonuses but she's just been stealing them back and the gun attack does so much damage. I managed to get her to like 1/3 health and killed the mooks but then she stole my bonuses and started killing everyone and I was out of craft points. This is only on normal too
>>722453656well it sounds like you've already resigned yourself to a sub-optimal experience, so nothing to be done about that. Can't turn back time. Reverie is like 75% about crossbell and one of the three main routes is starring crossbell characters so you definitely will want to play those games first.
>>722452762Okay that one yeah but personally I felt like the characters buffing themselves was more impactful than the occasional random damage boost.
>>722453964To be fair that applies to basically everyone that's kept up with the series in the west since the Crossbell duo didn't come out until Cold Steel was done.
>>722388751I picked this game up because I saw Estelle's cute ass. It's fun
>>722454082Yeah, but NISA at least had the decency to release the crossbell games before Reverie.
How long do you think until 2nd chapter? Just finished the remake and I don't know how long Falcom takes for these games.
>>722453963Are you using earth guard? That's a good way to survive any big attacks.There are some accessories available that boost speed, and those are a very good idea too.>>722454292Probably this time next year? They have another game releasing in the west in January, so I doubt we'll see anything before the summer at earliest. It's all speculation at this point though, so I can't rule out 2027.
>>722454082I played Zero and Ao in 2018/2019 and even with the scuffed state of the translations back then they still ended up as some of my favorite games in the series. I know the average normalfag wouldn't want to do that but it's a damn shame since so much of crossbell stuff gets spoiled if you play cold steel first
>>722454082Feeling more vindicated than ever for quitting CS2 after 5 hours and only coming back now that Zero and Azure are out and the english releases have largely caught up
oh fuck i' mcrying likea little bitch right now holy shit, what a good game
>>722454492That was 2 years after CS2 came out in the west, and it was still a pretty niche series. Not a whole lot to be done there. Yeah fans could have bought Cold Steel and sat on them but back in the day there was no guarantee the Crossbell games were coming at all.
Estelle jumps down Olivier's throat for hitting on Joshua but then she does shit like this.
>>722388751Is it a good replacement for the original? If so I will pirate later
>>722455867broke nigga alert
>>722455782The difference is that Olivert is a love hunter
>>722455782Estelle is innocent and naive. Anything she does is acceptable or at least excusable.Olivier has...impure intentions.
>>722453631>>722453739Nice
>>722456731Olivier reminds me of that one dude from the mid 2000s Doctor Who series, can't remember the name.
>>722456858Gay.
>>722455867As someone who worships the original, it's a worthy remake. The original is better, but the graphics and combat are too old school for most people.
>>722457872Explain, dear anon. What makes the original better.
>>722388751I'm waiting for a deep discount
It's killing me that they changed Tita's JP VA, I loved her voice...
Loaded up an SC save and am very surprised Impede used to be wind.
>>722461906>used to only be 20%It really was a different time.
>>722462050i miss when you couldnt easily get 100% evasion in every game
>>722461096She's way too squeaky for me, I hope Renne is better.
Can't believe Arts were this cheap. They really wanted you to use EP boosting quartz and accessories in the remake.
>>722462202I miss when maxing evasion actually meant something. The new games are too concerned with balance. They even tweaked with Art EP values in the remake. Yeah max EP values weren't as crazy in the older games but the new costs have definitely been over adjusted. The one thing I can draw solace from is that stuff like Cast and EP Cut quartz are still crazy efficient compared to how they are in the newer games.
>>722462372you didnt have a million ways to restore ep back then only really items
>>722462372>7 slotsDid they add another slot in the original SC or did the remake just remove one?
>>722462372White Gehanna my beloved. They gutted you in the remake.
>>722462608Bro Clock Up EX is 30 EP.
>>722462819I know right? I was so underwhelmed when I unlocked it.
never play it, the ending for the first game sequel bait?
>>722460604The original has a more 'loose' translation, which I prefer as the remake has a very 'rigid' translation. The original loose translation can be a little much at times but I find it flows way better.The atmosphere of the original is better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEmYHA4tFNQ&t=8962shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UyTnSZGD9M&t=32577sJust look at the lighting in the original compared to the sequel. The dark orange blanketing the scene sets the somber mood perfectly in the OG but in the remake it's a little too light.There's also several scenes where the hand drawn portraits are used extremely effectively that even the good animation in the remake couldn't copy.It's all small things.
>>722462756SC has one more slot that FC, and also higher levelled arts to go with it.
>>722463240The original translation is hot garbage. I used to hate Estelle and Schera because of it.
>>722463240The original translation is way better grammatically but a lot of the "localizer humor' just goes way too overboard. If they just fixed the grammar issues in the new translation i'd vastly prefer it.
>>722463437It could definitely be way too over the top. There's a line from Estelle in SC that goes something like "Why don't they just call it the dark evil mathingey of doom?" or something like that that makes me want to barf every time I replay it.That said the Gungho translation feels insanely machine translated at times. The characters still come across just fine but there are times it hurts. I believe any time they say "Let's go back to the city" instead of just saying "Let's go back to Bose", they say "Let's go back to the City of Bose". It feels like a fucking alien is talking.
>>722463676yeah i think its highly likely gunghos translation is edited mtl like itll be fine one moment and then the next it will be incredibly stilted and awkward sounding and its constantly shifting between the two with no consistency
>>722460604note that by "loose" translation he means the localizers were more liberal in their translations and took "creative liberties" in translation sections so that they would be "better understood in the west" (by their own definition only)
>>722463676Have you finished it yet? It gets more loose later on with some stuff like Joshua calling someone a "mustache twirling villain." For my money the only real awkward lines are this and Kloe's explanation of her name.
>>722464116I finished it yeah. My main problem actually in later chapters is that there is an insane amount of *Character says one thing, text says something completely different*. I noticed the further the game went on the worse and worse it became. There were even one or two text lines that were just in the complete wrong spot. I think one was during the tournament from Estelle.
>>722463676>the City of BoseI mean the region is called Bose and the capital is also called Bose, so the city being called the City of Bose makes sense kind of. It's like Mexico City. Not the worst imodesu
>>722463240>the troonslation defender is backdont you have more pressing matters to attend to you little bastard faggot?
>>722464263>There were even one or two text lines that were just in the complete wrong spot.I noticed that as well but it wasn't that bad since it was in the very next dialog.I'm just glad this shit didn't become a common occurrence. Makes me think that each chapter was handled by a different person.
>>722464465I said both have their strengths and weakness you mentally ill fuck. I have no idea whoever it is you're schizoing over.
>>722462372That's at the end of the game, after you have fully upgraded your slots. EP is even tighter at the start of the original games.
>>722388751I don't feel like playing it, but I have to ask: How did they butcher Loewe?
>>722464340Calling it "Bose City" would work far better though.
>>722389921I feel like the closest they've ever gotten to some degree of balance was around 3rd?
>>722466215thats potayto potahtoits a much better conundrum to face than the garbage trails localizers want to force on us
>be ticket taker at local airport>blab to the cops about how you leer at every pretty girl walking by>a few days later they return with backup and ask you thisHow do you respond without getting chain attacked?
>>722466465>respondI ogle their backup instead and take a whip to the groin for my troubles. I whisper that it was worth it before passing out due to the pain.
>>722466046Made his fight too easy. Otherwise he's fine.
>>722466465I respect Alan so much, getting into a job just get to see all the new hotties arriving to your city is commendable.
>>722447380>"there's still chests on this map" map iconsomeone explain????
>>722442659>In the original game, you have to make choices during battle, especially related to targeting and prioritization.Earth Wall solved all defensive issues in FC and discouraged actual movement.Aerial/White Gehenna/Blue Impact/Titanic Roar were your go to spells once you got them.The only craft character worth a damn was Joshua and he was still better spamming arts because he had no meaningful elemental locks anyway (lol lmao time locks when everyone runs time quartz).I will never forget bringing Kloe/Agate to the final dungeon my first run and Agate was felt like complete ass.Sure, 1st mega buffed crafts, but its not like arts suck.
>>722466564>Made his fight too easy.That's kind of lame. Beating him on Nightmare mode (Without a guide mind you) was a fun challenge.
>>722443927don't forget ultra-buffing your entire team with jusis
>>722388751Refunded.
>>722466742You can only afford to spam earth wall near the end of the game (or if you grind for money) and there are some bosses that use displacement which makes it hard to get your entire party. Boss battles with high speed or lots of minions also mean that earth wall is not some foolproof tactic, though it's certainly very strong.Hitting the entire enemy party with white gehenna is sometimes possible, but not always, and you oftentimes had to anticipate enemy movement to do that. Hitting a weakness is also preferable where possible.The issue is not that crafts are stronger (that's a reasonable change) it's that they hit everything with minimal thought or consideration, every character has them, and the game gives you so much CP that you rarely have to hold back.
>>722437274>>722426345Extremely trustworthy characters
>>722468770Dorothy doesn't even know how to lie.
>>722468607I don't know if they worked this way in the original but it's crazy to me that several characters get Crafts that run on ATS so even on characters like Estelle and Joshua you have no reason to go for physical stats.
>>722468607I can't remember any boss in FC before "Lorence" actually being interesting or warranted serious consideration. If it was SC or 3rd then sure, there were a handful of bosses that could mess you up, but the older games really don't make you move as often as you claim.
>>722469192In the original game, just getting hit in melee knocks you back noticeably. Some ranged attacks also do so. It's enough to disrupt the tight AoE of earth wall. AoE attacks can also clear it from your entire party at once.It's still a strong strategy, but it's definitely possible to die on hard or nightmare.
>>722469428>it's definitely possible to die on hard or nightmare.i mean yeah, you can die on hard/nightmare in every game. but that doesn't change the fact that a dedicated earth wall bot cheeses a lot of hard fights because the enemy is too busy trying to peel off the wall instead of actually hurting your team.there's a reason why a lot of boss fights in 3rd were them bringing multiple enemies with aoe attacks because you had access to kevin and earth wall super early.
>>722469046god I love her
>>722388751I had my eye on TitS since my vita over 10 years ago and finally bought it for switch, and, I’m not caring to learn the battle system. I’m not feeling it. I was just about to head out to that tower in the beginning so I’m basically in the tutorial. I don’t know what’s up with me because I probably would have eaten this up when I was younger, but instead I booted up Ys oath in felghana and button mashed through that instead
>>722469620I played through the games earlier this year, and you're underestimating how many bosses have additional enemies, AoE attacks, or are just very fast. It's just nowhere near as trivial to use as delay spam in Cold Steel or shield spam in Daybreak.Earth wall definitely trivializes the final bosses of each game, and I think that's what sticks with people.
Why does sepith mass earn more than actual sepith? From a LORE perspective, obviously it's for balancing but in lore I don't see why scraps should be worth more than solid, if aspected, pieces of sepith.
>>722470180>It's just nowhere near as trivial to use as delay spam in Cold Steel any enemy with some form of delay resist will cripple if not outright shut down delay spam. the actual elephants in the room in CS are 0 delay arts spam and degenerate one shot s craft/lost arts builds.
>>722470484I don't recall there being almost any? I cruised all the way to the final boss of CS2 with that strat, and he gave me problems because he was immune and I wasn't used to the enemies fighting back.
>>722470308It's used in the adrenochrome treatments of the nobles.
>>722456731Not even Tita is safe from him, he's that based.
>>722470308Eh, it's not necessarily the same units between them. They could add a zero to the amount of sepith mass you get, scale the exchange rate accordingly, and it wouldn't affect game balance at all.
what did she say here in the remake?
>>722470601There's quite a few enemies with delay resist. It's just that when you're stacking a gorillion impede quartz on top of arc slash or whatever, you're just fishing until when the rng makes you win.
>ivory colored coat>beautiful silver hairDo we even get a proper look at him (in his regular outfit) before SC? It's been so long I don't remember.
>>722471093We do get a quick look at the end of the play in ch2
>>722469838Weird, I have the opposite issue where I like Trails but have never been able to get into Ys.
>>722470878It's something very engrish like "oh, so you have that kind of preference".
>>722470878>>722471884In the remake she looks more like "eh weirdo" without getting angry.
>>722471784Did you play Ys 8? It's the one I enjoyed the most and is arguably the most similar to Trails. I also found its combat to be more enjoyable than the other Ys games I tried.I will say that it starts off a bit slow, but the plot really picks up once you get to the far side of the island.
How do you make Tita useful beside using her as CP battery for Joshua and Agate?
>>722472252I put all ailment quartz on her
>Kloe's Original Diner OutfitThis is it, this is the one.
>>722472252You build her the same way like Machias. stack ailment quartz out the ass.
>>722472837lmao somebody had a good time taking the screenshots for this dlcthe funny costumes are one of the best parts of this series.
>>722473424uh, looks like I got the wrong costume, but this picture is funnier so whatever
>>722473424Normally I try not to look too crazy for cutscenes and stuff my first time around but this is a remake so nothing is off limits, I already know how the game is going to play out.I also want a crossdressing Joshua mod but as I remember it the EVO princess portrait had him as not wearing padding but all the mods give him a bust and it is really fucking with muh 'tism.
>>722388751>trails in the censored: blackcock editionlmao, fuck no, never touching it.
>>722473932See >>722470714The original censored it by making it seems like he wasn't interested in Tita.
>>722474468olivier is earning his CS namesake
>>722474468>The originalJP or XSEED fanfic?
>>722388751I wont touch it ever, I dont wanna ruin my good memories of original
>>722453963I just beat her myself, Nightmare difficulty.What helped me is that despite resisting most status, she's vulnerable to Confuse. I set up orbments so Schera has Chaos Brand, she applies Confuse with it which forces the boss to use a basic attack instead of Stampede. This even works when she goes into Rage state. And if one of the mooks is alive she might even shoot them instead of you.I also set up Joshua to have Clock Up EX, whoever you cast it on takes their turn immediately. You can have another character start casting a big AoE, then let them instantly finish casting. I did that with Estelle. He can also use it on himself for an instant turn + buffs. And with his speed buffed that much, he can spam delay. Which is good for buying just a little extra time to re-up Chaos Brand, heal someone, etc.
>>722473424She is so perfect
>>722464116I dont get why they retranslated it and changed a bunch of stuff, but left klose as kloe. "it's from the first/last letters of my actual name" kl o se
>>722478159Same reason why ダイナストゲイル and 雷神掌 are still fucking Beatdown and Aural Blast. The XSEED brain poison couldn't be completely expunged.
>>722478561You expect them to call it dynastogeil and thunder god palm?
>>722478703Yes, Dynast Gale and Raijinsho sound cool.
I was 3/4 through FC when the remake dropped. Bought it:>weird ass semi-active combat system>uhhh rush in, attack and kill or stun and go into combat with an advantage>there's clearly a superior way of doing this and you have to do it every single timeI just wanted turnbased, man
>>722478863You can (and should) ignore it unless you're like 8+ levels above the enemy.In chapter 3 you get a guaranteed stun with one button press.
>>722466681press map button > treasure chest icon is there if there's still chests to be grabbed, it's gone if there's none left.
>>722388751Can someone post the full design for the middle girl? She looks cute, I like her uniform
>>722479351FUG I noticed this with optional events early on but never made the connection with chests.
>>722479351So the tooltip for chests vanishes if you don't have any more chests to loot on that map area? That's amazing. And slightly obscure. Cheers anon.
how do i disable quest markers
>>722479540options menu has some setting for them
>>722479624in the remake? im not seeing it
>>722479726With how blind you are you better not turn them off.
>miss out on a BP because I forgot to floop the pigI got so hung up because I remember in the original, for the streetlight quest you had to let Estelle do the code to get the extra BP. OR MAYBE YOU DIDN'T. I let Joshua do the code here and I still got the extra BP. OR WAS THERE ANOTHER EXTRA BP. Its hard to tell what's missable, but I think if there's a memo in the Bracer journal that doesn't start with a Star, then it means you messed up somewhere
>>722479848that only disabled the objective reminderi want to remove map markers for quests
>>722479521I'm guessing it's not deliberate, it's just the legend only explains icons that are actually present.
>>722479962Damn, you're right. Guess you can't.
>dude richard hates women!Why do people say this? Did they even play the game?
>>722480290richard is autistic
I want to sniff Tita’s leggings
Finished the demo. Do I buy the deluxe edition or is the DLC not worth it?
>>722480608If you're playing on steam you can just buy the base game and unlock all dlc for free
>>722480740They're free on steam?
>>722480872No, he means you can sneak it in. Trails games historically have had awful DLC implementation. (which is good for players since nowadays the games are packed with like $60 worth of pointless DLC)iirc in Daybreak 1 you just had to take a text file, put it in the right folder and label it correctly, remove the extension, and the game would act like you owned the DLC.
WHERE IS THE PRINCESS CECILIA JOSHUA MOD?WHERE IS THE PRINCESS DLC.WHY IS THIS NOT AN OFFICIAL IN-GAME COSTUME.WHAT THE FUCK.
>>722481006Or you could just buy them like a normal person instead of pirating shit.
>onsen sceneGive me that Tita towel costume NOW
Estelle is a nepo baby and didn't deserve to be promoted to senior bracer.There, I said it.
>>722481539She saved Liberl, just like her dad.
>>722481408I buy DLC that interests me for games I like but I won't lecture people for pirating as I can't pretend that this DLC bloat isn't getting ridiculous. It's like X simulator DLCs but on a much more reasonable scale (for now). I was talking about their DLC practises back when Daybreak released and an anon told me about how flimsy the system really is.
>old schoolhouse back in the day>just a regular spooky building with some monsters in it>old schoolhouse in donut steel era>extra dimensional space that contains a ghost fragment of the macguffin that you beat up>plus an actual one in the form of a new fotm gimmick that will span the next FOUR GAMES after the first oneerebonia is shitliberl is peak
>>722481408Nah, this model of DLC isn't aimed at normal people. It's more like the old otaku games model, where they'd pander heavily to their niche market but sell the game for $85 (in 2000s money)DLC like that is basically zero effort but costs as much as an entire game when added up, similar to old fan discs or merch. I think 1st even had one of those store-exclusive bonus things in Japan.
>>722481932This is why you buy the season pass.
>>722479521yea. I used it to find the two missing chests I had. one was somewhere on the rolent map (presumably, I only noticed my count had gone up by the time I got to the end of the chapter), and the other was in the pirates hideout.
>>722481870from memory the old schoolhouse wasn't a regular building in liberll, it ends up having some secret hidden dungeon underneath it that's got something the bad guys want in SC.
>>722482416nothing short of the aureole itself could be hidden under the liberl schoolhouse that could match what is hidden under the erebonia schoolhouse
tita-chan...
>>722481593and she's still just a B-rank bracer. same rank as alvis the cuck from calvard. not looking good.
>>722482631What is she running for? Does it replenish her CP so she can share it to her party members? (I really hope you're using Joshua and Agate who really need that CP to use their powerful S crafts)
>>722482631I bet Anelace would take Tita and throw her in a plushie collection.
>>722482754>B-rankShe was an A rank bracer back in SC. Though of course Falcom made it so your achievements weren't canon.
I fucking hate rage mode just bypassing stun for no reason
>>722483572I find it fair because otherwise how's the enemy going to ever stop you from delay spamming, and becoming invincible even when they do get a turn?
>>722471631I just saw that scene.Didn't... isn't he supposed to have long hair? Am I missing something? Or misremembering?
>>722484161>delay spammingMost bosses are immune or highly resistant to delay though.At least on nightmare.
>>722388751I can’t enjoy it since they force me to use the ugly male protagonists I refunded it in after that first hour
>>722484454Doesn't really matter when you are fishing for it every turn with Impede quartz and various delay crafts.
I'm around half and it starts to gets boring. Combat is getting repetitive and main story advances slowly, forshadowed by boring side quests with too much dialogue. Remind me why I like Falcom games and most jRPG less the older I get.
>>722484458This is exactly why the crossdressing outfits should be standard costumes. Everyone should be allowed to bask in the beauty of female (male) Joshua.
>>722484643He’s the useless faggot that made me refund it. I couldn’t stand hearing his voice ugh Japanese men have the most ear grating voices seriously very very annoying
>>722419347Can't find her full nude mod. Even Tita has it.
nice to have a non-schizo trails thread for once
>>722484737Yeah this thread was comfy
>>722484668Why are yurikeks so retarded?
There are some crossdressing mods for joshy in nexus, do what you will with this information.
>>722388751I beat itI tried out SCCan't get into itWill wait for the remake.
>>722389747This is false. I got 1st rank without following a guide. The choices were mostly obvious, and I messed up a bunch and still had max rank before finishing the game.
>>722485387I've seen them along with the ones on LL but I want the vanilla princess costume and I cannot for the life of me find it. The version I saw on LL only had a half cut princess dress.
>>722485591maybe they will release it later? part of this season pass shit, dunno.
For people who want to play SC before the remake: don't put it on Nightmare in the Prologue, you can edit the save files to switch the difficulty up after you are done with it.
>>722413308>NOTHING happensYou literally stop a coup.
>>722485768If you don't save the universe from an evil godly being then nothing happened.
