Kinda wild how FFXIV made a whole bunch of changes during the WoW exodus and covid lockdowns with the assumption the playerbase would only grow and now we're hovering around HW/SB level of active players with a bunch of "QoL" that negatively impacts the player experience.
XIVsissies our response?
If you seriously think XIV wasn't getting worse and worse gameplay wise ever since ShB you're just fucking deluded. Dawnfail is just the straw that broke the camel's back.
>>722393101>>722393167All me btw
>>722393237SHB was the point where it got bad but wasn't irredeemably. EW was the point i lost faith.
i unsubbed after the ffxi raid. is new bozja any good?
>>722393101SE as a whole cannot capitalize on success. They are always 1 or more steps behind. On top of that, they are constantly wrong about what players want. Their Dev Teams have no idea what the games are like between teams. You can look at the similarities between XV and XVI and see that it's true. SE keeps making games that people wanted 5-10 years ago.
>>722393101>with the assumption the playerbase would only growi don't think it was yoshida assuming the playerbase would grow forever, because that's retarded, and yoshida is many things including stupid sometimes but he is not retarded
>>722393101Kinda wild how XIV is a soulless WoW wannabe that stole most of its identity from its predecessor without adding any originality to the tired and trite formula of modern themepark MMORPGs.
>>722393237The decline started in Stormblood.
>>722393167I don't know what any of those skibbidy toilet abbreviations mean other than wow.
Put those fangs away moonie cat, you frighten the lalafell.
>>722393237Honestly the job gameplay peaked with Stb. I remember seeing the ShB media tour coverage and thinking all the simplification was just placeholders or something. It wasn't.
Stop using abbreviations.
>>722394481It peaked in Heavensward and was simplified in Stormblood, please do not get it twisted
>>722394534Wait, you're right. BRDmage was in HW.
>>722394534Correct.
>>722393548This is what stormblood was. It got worse but still had room to build on. Shadowbringers was the expansion that told us players they weren't going to improve the game at all ever. Of course you wouldn't know that though.
I liked ARR 1.0
>>722393887Yes he was, they bought a bunch of new servers and Data centers on the assumption the game was going to keep growing. Dynamis and Oceania are basically dead Data centers, and they tried to open a new DC in EU called Shadow, it was listed as temporary after Dawntrail but the idea was to have it made permanent, they increased the amount of Home Worlds Shadow had from 3-4 on the assumption again that the player pop was going to be huge and it just wasn't, I used it a couple of times as a meet up for raid night and the entire DC was dead and this was 1 week after Dawntrail released to prog Extreme. They also increased the population capacity of each world to allow another 500 players during Endwalker post patch in anticipation of Dawntrail and that turned out to be wasted money. It's looking far more likely Worlds are going to have to be shut down and merged because of the lack of player pop instead.
>>722394841I started with SB and it's my favorite...
>>722393816>is new bozja any good?The fact you haven't heard people talking about it all you need to know, it's complete dogshit.
>>722393816>is new bozja any good?No, they forgot how to do forays and foray raids. Bozja looked like shit but was 10x more fun to play through than Occult Crescent.
>>722394534Personally I don't know if I consider HW or SB to be the peak. HW was the most creative and interesting, but there was also a ton of stupidity to some of the job designs. At the time, a little bit of simplifying seemed like a good and perfectly legit idea to me. I think of it as SB taking two steps in the right direction when one step was all that was needed, missing the mark. And then ShB and EW set off into a full sprint even further away from the sweet spot they had already gone past.
i wish i had some kind of idea of what the fuck they are planning for the next expansion because shit is just so dire right now
>>722393167Sex with Lyse
>>722397802>30 percent>YOU CAN BE A SHOGUN>80 PERCENT SURE>SHARDS>100 percent suremerycydia last gasp.
>>722393101
He thinks this is gonna survive
>>722393101They need to make a new online FF one day. I'm tired of tab target shit. I need action combat with the ability to dodge most attacks. But worried they might stick to tab target philosophy forever cause making the game skill-based would alienate all of the femboys.
>>722399810lets see your ult clears, criterion savage clears and necromancer title thensurely someone as skillful as yourself will have cleared all of the above
>>722393887Have you played FFXVI? He's absolutely retarded. They also didn't pay shitloads of money to make new datacenters because they were planning on dropping back down to SB numbers. Maybe the reason you don't think Yoshida is retarded is because you're dumber than he is.
>>722398153But shes a dumbass
>>722399810If the next online FF isn't a Genshin clone which is the most likely, it will be a second attempt at a Monster Hunter clone.
>>722393101>Kinda wild how FFXIV made a whole bunch of changes during the WoW exodusI swear this is how I know most modern XIVfags are tribalistic retards. If you couldn't see this end point by HW at the latest then no one could help you. The game is a WoWclone and has been dumbing itself down. Any critiques got shut down cause the Devs could do no wrong and now we're at the point of no return because the Devs got protected by the community for a decade.
>>722399881Why would I invest time into an mmo that I don't like.
>>722399540yoshitpiss my DICK
>>722399980That makes it even better
>>722400003>monster hunter cloneThey would never, if they ever make a new online FF it will be some dogshit gacha with the most predatory monetization you could ever imagine.Look at the chinese mobile ffxiv mtx, look at how expensive shitty costumes and mounts are on the cash shop of the main game already. The 3 promotional FFT outfits together cost more than the actual game.
the man decided to play multiple stupid games, so he won stupid prizes, one of which was his game unfortunate demise
>>722400248>the man decided to make multiple stupid gamesftfy
>>722400245>The 3 promotional FFT outfits together cost more than the actual game.I didn't even think about that. I really wanted to buy the Gaffgarion outfit for his helmet but this post was enough to help me resist.
>>722393101XIV - Endwalker was good because it wasn't woke when WoW already went woke.XIV - Yawntrail was bad because it was woke. It was just years behind the trail.
>>722393816Occult Crescent was terrible. Yoshi-P admitted to it being shit, too. Claimed they didn't have the budget to make it good...
>>722394841Stormblood started to simplify the game so you could say it was the start of the illness, however the game was still really good in almost every department.ShB was a bit worse on that aspect but its probably the peak of the story and other (for example, I still think Bozja Savage was the best content they ever made)EW is when the tumor finally got its hots and killed it. I completely paced after 6.0 and quit soon after
People praise 14 for the story, but I find it impossible to take it seriously when half of the cast is twinks and the other is weird looking furries or blue humanoids.
>>722400323>Endwalker was good because it wasn't wokeNah, XIV has always been kinda woke.It's just that Xitter got wind of it being woke after the whole SBI and DEI witch hunt broke off.
>>722393816I'll let the numbers speak for themselves.
>>722400543Nah, XIV wasn't always "kinda woke". WTF are you talking about son? Are you retarded?
>>722400626man, i miss when Japanese game devs wrote stuff from a Jap perspective
XIV classic when?
>>722400626Even the memed Gaius' monologue before his fight is legendary
>>722400718give it 5 more years
>>722400685
>>722400730Gaius is a bleeding heart globohomo commie FAGGOT
>>722400543Anon's point was retarded and had nothing to do with OP, but is true in its own way.There's a way to do woke in a good way. It's when things like Dawntrail, and 90% of all other media that comes out in the 2020s, does woke in a retarded manner that people start getting annoyed and disgusted with it, and go on to refer to whatever the thing is as "woke" when they dismiss it. Gnosia's a good semi-recent example of doing woke in a good way. One of the main characters outright refers to themself as non-binary. Shit's retarded and cringe, but the game and all its aesthetic parts are so good you can ignore it.
>>722400769Now, after getting pozzified
>>722400626What does she say in original jp script?
>>722400790He was that way since 1.0 bro.
>>722400791idk, why don't you look up these while you're doing the research?
>>722400826nahhh p sure they retconned his fucking the white-armor chick in Realm Reborn.
>>722400776Yeah, there's plenty of left-leaning media that chuddies like me enjoy because they're competently made. The gaze turned on wokies because they produce garbage that exists only to serve their egos and the propaganda machine.
Damn. Looks like XIV might be seeing the lowest player numbers it's seen since 2019 on the Steam client... See for yourself: https://steamcharts.com/app/39210#AllI was just curious about how the Dawntrail graphs compared to the other expansions, and I'm kind of amazed.It's not like it doesn't make sense, the logic behind their game design choices have been a massive downward spiral since 5.0 - not to say there weren't indicators of the state things were going in back in 4.0, but 5.0 was where they started making genuinely dangerous design choices for the health of the game. Now it looks like those decisions are all incidentally catching up with them at the same time.
>>722400760but the entire point of her questline was "actually only a few matangas are bad"
>>722400861holy the last one, didn't see that one
>>722400861XIV in 2025:>"Erm, can you hold my hand WoL? Please? I'm gonna have a realistic depiction of a panic attack if you don't tell me how good and special I am."
>>722400861Based Koji calling out the (((moneylenders))), this is why they had to put him in the cuck closet.
>>722401070*Wuk Lamat knocks on your inn door.webm*
How would (you) fix FFXIV?
>>722401040well, if mantangas make up 13% of the population but commit 50% of the crimes, does it matter if only 20% of the mantangas are bad?
>>722401198Bring back the fatigue system.
>>722400992The indicators were there as early as 2.0. Rather than fix or properly implement RPG mechanics from 1.X into 2.0 they removed it alongside streamlining dungeons, rotations and gearsets. The dumbification was always going to happen.>NumbersThe last known count as close as we have to accurate before SE used legal means to shut down scraping add-ons was 300k active players with 1/3rd being at least alts under the same account.
>>722394534Monk's triple tornado kick opener is in StB, so StB is the peak.
>>722401138>Based Koji calling out the (((moneylenders)))>Makes Lalas, the Jews, the strongest race in terms of power, wealth and politicsKek?
>>722401274It's been here since ARR launched, it's called tomestones. Except tomestones is much more restrictive.
>>722401198kill all garleniggers.
There it is again dood
>>722401274why?
>>722401198it'd take a college-level essay to write it all out and express it properly. game needs a total system and (longterm) engine overhaul, as well as a shift in its narrative philosophy. at this point they should just make a ffxiv-2, but it won't happen and if it does it'll be done in Unreal.
How would you fix the current state of FFXIV's worldbuilding?After Endwalker overexplained everything, I lost all the interest in Eorzea and its mysteries, as they all boil down to ascians. I find it hard to be interested in anything since 6.0 because ascians/ancients are at the origin of everything that exists.So how could they possibly make the world of FFXIV interesting again?
I honestly don't know if xiv can comeback from DT. The msq was a dam holding back all the other problems, DT failed at that, and you can't put the toothpaste back in once it's out.
>>722401452so?what's the problem?
>>722401487>game needs a total system and (longterm) engine overhaulMan it's almost as if people who cares enough were begging Yoshida to address the technical debt per expansion only to get shut down by the community. You're better off making a new game at this point.
>>722401542>G'raha leads an effort to bring Garleans back to Corvos which leads to a conflict over land ownership which Thavnair and Bozja are both drawn into because of their proximity to Corvos>somehow or another, probably through trade routes, this extends to Ala Mhigo and Ul'dah and begins a political schism in the Eorzean and Othard alliances>remnants of the IVth from Bozja and their lucavi bullshit get involved somehow>after an expansion or two, the Tartarus technology Gabranth got from Ridorana is used to blow a huge hole in the planet in Ilsabard which makes the world serpent thing angry
>>722401573well, they could abandon new-mexico and take us to a new world that doesn't suck, with the adventurers having attitudes that don't suck. i doubt they have the cojones to do it though.
>>722401198give up and make FFXI 2 instead
>>722401542>After Endwalker overexplained everythingthere's your answer: you literally can't.
>>722401747They could, but the magic is gone. People aren't going to come back now that they realized how bad a lot of the game actually is.
Only way to fix FFXIV is to have a badguy show up in 8.0 who forces the entire planet (and reflections) to team up, and lose. The whole world gets destroyed a'la ff6 and we transistion into final fantasy 14-2.
>>722401743>garlenigger slop>muh grounded politics slop (BORING)kys
>>722393101Never recovered after Heavensward. It is also the best setting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4phUCJlomPoThe zones kinda reminded me of granblue fantasy's sky world.
>>722401961Yes, grounded politics lead to realistic, interesting conflicts where demons and black holes start getting flung around. That's Final Fantasy, newnigger endbryo.
Low level content is killing me, they gota do something about level sync. My partner is contemplating qutting bc she gets tired of only having 3 ws when she's synced. They gota make jobs feel good by 50
>>722401542Write a tragic irony story where the players know that ascians are behind everything but the green adventurers on shard z think they're doing the right thing. Drama ensues as they unknowingly hasten their planet's rejoining. In other words...let us play through ardbert's adventure, squeenix!!!
>>722401898slop
>>722402045Correct. XIV is slop. Have we been playing the same game?
What is there to even do this patch? Cosmic Exploration where you sit at base pressing macros for hours? An alliance raid that is weekly locked.I dont know why but I wasn't this bored in Endwalker. I forgot what I was doing in those .1 to .5 patches but I was definitely occupied.
>>722393101I keep trying to figure out how is the game going nowadays but everyone is just shitposting
>>722401542Complaining about the Ancients in XIV is like complaining about the Ainur and the Maiar in Lord of the Rings.The problem isn't that everything originates from one thing, but rather that the writers have told the same story of shadowy masters spreading chaos since ARR.
>seething garlean larpers til this dayEW was a gift.
>>722401743this sounds like dogshit. never change xiv trannies.
>>722402080people were still playing old content. The story had the playerbase vitalized and fostered a community that loved the game. EW patches and Dawntrail being profound slop killed the heart of the game.
>>722402135>The Garlean Empire was a congreg--AAAACCCKKK!!!!
>>722402014It's why I tell new players to play jobs that actually feel fun to play at low levels when unsyncedSamurai, Dancer, GNB, Sage, PictDRK, NIN, BLM, SCH, MCH all feel like complete fucking dogshit to play without their full abilities.Special mention to White Mage, Viper, Red Mage and Summoner who all play the same regardless at what level you're at
>>722401990>fantastic small part>great world building>uh uh you have to go back to mhigger ville for grounded political slop with uldah and rauhbahnDT>wow theres the gate to the golden city>uh you have to go back to wuk la mats coronation or something. ITS THE SAME GUY FIRE HIM TOO.
>>722402189ironic coming from garlenigger larpers. >nooo you cant use my shit tower ahhhhh my empireeeeeeeTHE STATE OF GARLENIGGERS.
>>722402096it's bad. there's tons of content, but no one's doing the older stuff. story's good for a while then starts sucking.
rubber bullets
>>722401743don't listen to the anti-garlean retards in these threads anon, I like your ideasthe only problem I have with it is that this would require them to make bozja and ivalice raids mandatory which realistically they will never do
>>722402446>NO SISTER DONT LISTEN TO THE HATERSthe absolute state of the crumbled empire of garlemald. malding.
"What Caused DawnTrail to fail?""We can't figure it out...!!"
fire kate and fire hiroi.
Old parts of the game that have been untouched for years are making the early game feel worse and worse as the game gets older and the end game is more and more pushed to cater to players who only play the game for a couple months and quit.Veterans are leaving and new players aren't sticking around. It's really not surprising. Community alone can't hold onto a playerbase. Oh, let's not forget a website made in 2002 that's forever gatekeeping new players from joining. Just what we need in the age of short attention spans: overly complicated sign up processes!
does someone have the slide explaining hiroi's life that includes "an incident happened"
I cannot believe that ignoring long standing problems, making moves which are predominantly popular only with the crowd who doesn't even want to play the game in a first place, prolonging patch + expansion release schedule, splitting patches into smaller bits, falling behind competition in most aspects, and questionable game design approaches like push for singleplayer in EW, would result in worse game.
I had more fun with ARR/HW back in 2013-2016 than with everything after
>>722402135>quoting anything from a lizard who had the biggest meltie over having to raise a child, spent 30 years raising a hi-tech army, and lost to underdeveloped south americans in less than a weekKWAB
They always prided themselves on the story (with good reason) and I still remember the old deflections to criticism from the community saying "it's an FF first and an MMO second".Shb got all the goodwill because of the story as well mostly and now here we are.
>>722402669reddit post
>>722402669ffxiv unironically could not afford another bad expansion when selling the game to mutuals is already too hard>I know the beginning is bad but after you get past the first few levels it gets so much better...except for like a weird part in the middle where it gets kind of slow but it gets REALLY good after...and then it gets bad again and it's still bad now but it might get better!! anyways yeah keep playing for 300 hours lol!
>>722400543if the godberd monologue about mhiggers made it into a modern SE title every twitter leftoid would catch on fire.game used to have decent depictions of nationalism in its city states, real politics in the face of limited resources and real crisis and the understanding that certain actions lead to certain consequences. it showed that introducing outsiders can and will to friction that needs to be addressed and that politics and history can be rather complicated and not resolved in a day.all of that has been eradicated in the current writing.
>>722402770>the garlemald empire is no more>seething at a savageHAHAHAHAHA GARLEAN LARPERS SURE HAVE FALLEN.
>>722393101delete all accounts made after patch 3.56revert the game back to HWban everyone who uses mods
Doesn't surprise me at all. I was an incredibly invested player with a good bit of probably unhealthy emotional attachment to the game, and even my playtime's gone down by like 85%. You just can't make everything worse except the fight designs, while every other game is stepping up with great value and fun atm, and expect it to work.
>>722402867alisaie is a pig and a shitty sword user.
How did endbryos make it through the first 500 hours of story when the mention of Garlemald causes such severe meltdowns?
I had more fun flushing $400 down the drain on the ff Magic boxes for Emet and Yshtola pulls than I ever had in DT.
Stoped paying sub/rent for my house and it was liberating. SE needs to wake the f up.
>>722402835Can't be a Reddit post. Reddit will defend the game to it's last breath
when will they bring back the Miqo butt slider?
>>722402910>hes still seething. AHAHAHAHAH THE MIGHY "BASED" NAZI LARPING GARLEAN LARPERS EVERYONE.
I haven't logged in since april I think? Lost my house because of auto demolition but couldnt care less. Game has been in a decline for a long time now. People are screaming it isnt but they are obviously in denial.
>>722402910It's just some retarded tranny that shits up the threads everytime Garlemald is mentioned, probably had a panic attack and body dysmorphia for days during In From The Cold
uhh but the main sub says the game is great and fun dont you see all their gposes?
>>722403007Garleans are commies though.
>>722403018>muh in from the cold>retoconing lore>boring slop nothing mattered in the endLOOOOOOOOOOOL. THATS ALL THEY HAVE . THATS ALL THE GARLEAN LARPERS HAVE.
>>722402221Narrative was also good in heavenward game sets the stage long before you even reach Ishgard. You’re exiled, on the run and the Coerthas quests build that atmosphere perfectly especially the one where you uncover a dragon hiding in human skin that feels like a horror story so you know you're getting yourself into some grim new alien conflict.And when you finally do make it to Ishgard it feels earned and that makes the slow process of gaining their trust all the more meaningful I mean from cold hospitality into genuine respect bit by bit.I think the later expansions just didn't top that simple but well built narrative.No need to complicate things when it just works.
>>722402125Its not specifically that they are the progenitor race, but rather that it has now been spelled out that every major culture and all history of eorzea has been fake and gay since the sundering.thats just lame and undermines the setting greatly.
The only good garleans are nero and some granny reaper. cid got tainted by shitty bozja (hiroi and matusno trash lol) The 4th legion was dogshit and the only good character from bozja was marsaak and fran, bwaggi, and lyon.
>>722402189>the whole thing happened behind the scenesI will never forgive EW for this
>>722403240That was the razing of Rabanastre, it happened off screen but it was in Stormblood.
>>722403128i really liked the house factions battling each other but the heavenward characters(muh heresy) stunk it up and they didnt even use all of them. aymeric was a waste of space too. msq and yellow quests all the way then it got boring with post hw with muh peasants.
The numbers shrinking below pre-covid numbers speaks volumes.
>>722401990you post that image but you never actually see any place like that ingame.I always thought that this part of FF14 sucked so much.very little cool standout stuff in environments you actually play through.
>>722393101What truly is wild is how this piece of shit (along with WoW) is still somehow alive. The genre is one of the worst in history of gaming, new mmos cone and go and die quickly, but we have to still suffer through the existence of these two otherwise unremarkable games that are only being propped by decades old franchise names
>>722403283>>722403283>dalmasca was offscreened tooLOOOOOOOLmatsuno is a quitter and a hack.
>>722402096The game itself without numberfagging (I think it's at SB numbers, IDFK), bad. It's been bad since ShB. Yeah, there's the old shit, but you can never experience it pre-butchering ever again. People will tell you oh the story, the story gets so good in ShB yeah, you want to know why? Because they just straight up started copying XI. There's still deep dungeon that you can free trial though I guess. There u have it
>>722402986AI slop
>>722403327you retard. holy fuck are you dumb.
remember last year when we were like "ok the story sucks but the battle content's pretty good" and then they fucked up nearly all the subsequent battle content and job balancing decisions
>>722403150>Its not specifically that they are the progenitor race, but rather that it has now been spelled out that every major culture and all history of eorzea has been fake and gay since the sundering.How? The Allagans still existed, as did Mhach and Amdapor and all those other cultures that are mentioned. All that stuff still happened.
Regulus van Hydrus spirit will rise from the grave and the world will know that Garlemald was right.
>>722403126dumbass
>>722403397Holy mother of mindbroken.
>>722403397You're stupid.
people who use the word "slop" in their sentences are not worth listening to
>>722403640>>722403647the whole back and neck part is totally wrong. the artist just traced over AI
>>722403696xiv slopshadowbringersslopendslopdawnslop
>>722403696put a tripcode on
>>722403150>it has now been spelled out that every major culture and all history of eorzea has been fake and gay since the sunderingAll the Ascians did was take advantage of certain key moments in time.That doesn't mean they've been involved in literally every cultural or historical development
>>722403724HE DREW IT IN 2015
>>722402125But the Ainur and the Maiar aren't introduced into the world of LOTR as a major plot twist or something, you don't get a moment at the end of The Hobbit or RotK where it is all revealed as a major plot point. Besides, imo the Ancients are not on the level of the Ainur, they would be more like the Elves. The problem is, Eorzea isn't the creation of Ilúvatar and the Ainur's song, it's more like an accident that we now know resulted from the sundering, where the things that exist simply resemble what existed before or were created afterwards through Ascian fuckery for rejoining purposes.
>>722403801>he>2015early AI days
>monhun stuff>deep dungeon cool what are we getting in 7.4? beast? a ocean crescent raid? a variant?
>>722403756If they just used their immortal time wizard powers they would have won, idk why they tried so hard to rush the last few calamities. Then again, if they did that then the video game wouldn't happen so maybe i'm retarded for overthinking it.
>>722403801anon, he's clearly false flagginghe's not worth replying to
>>722393101Shadowbringers was the peak of XIV, anything after was the beginning of the end
>>722403853msqnormal raidsavage raidvariant and criterion won't be out til 7.45, and I believe more OC won't be out til 7.5 or 7.55
>>722394362>Best raid series>ucob and the introduction of Ultimates>Greatest version of AST everOnly storyniggers think SB was bad, mechanically it was the height of the game.
>>722403973whats left in tural for a variant or will some eorzean nigga get us for something else? it better not be the viking roes. I want that for a whole expansion.
>>722401312For me it was Stormblood Dark Knight, tanking was sooo fun.
>>722403875They weren't trying to rush anything. Lahabrea was trying to extend the Seventh Umbral Era against Elidibus's will for the sake of Athena's hemitheos research (fusing primal and human souls). At the same time, Ardbert was too good at his job and initiated the Flood of Light. Remember that the actual plan was to tilt the First toward light and then deny Ardbert his crystal. Elidibus shit his pants and had to shamble together some kind of emergency rejoining before the entire shard was permafucked.
>>722404006>best raid serieswrong. raid trannies are always wrong
>>722403756>That doesn't mean they've been involved in literally every cultural or historical developmentName one relevant cultural or historical event that doesn't lose it's impact or importance by Endwalker's reveals
Are there any good mmos
>>722403894It's hard to tell nowadays, I genuinely know people who think anything remotely rendered on a professional level is AI
>>722404098Roblox
dds are not content
>>722404052Why would anyone other than raid trannies have an opinion on the best raid series?Are you admitting you are a raid tranny yourself?
>>722403327Actually nice bait. Congrats, I almost raged.
>>722404192back to ledddit trannoid
>>722404047True. Maybe it just feels rushed because CHARNAME has saved the world 7 times. Playable garleans fucking when
>>722404235u mad lol
>>722404259never. garlean larpers get nothing except a dead ruined empire
I miss mithra I wish they weren't bred out of existence. All we have left are miqo mutts
I just cannot believe that their plan to save the game is deep dungeon. DEEP DUNGEON. In 2025. For who??? The 20 people who enjoy DD unironically never played any other video game. Watch how it will die in two weeks, everybody will be bored out of their minds at this prehistoric system that is stagnating since PotD, even with their changes to make it possible to pug it.It would be funny if the 100th floor required people to farm extensively a resource to enter it.But that's to be expected from CBU3. Imagine creating big zones (some are cools) that are just empty and dead 1 month after the expac releases. Or Chaotic Alliance Raid. Or OC/FT. This is XIV in a nutshell, 0 critical thinking skills.
>>722404232?
>>722404367>Chaotic>FTwhat, you don't like discord-mandatory content?
>>722404367another seething ultimate tranny.
>>722404425>YoshiP: yeah we're designing this content with one goal in mind: 24 experienced players can carry 24 noobshahahaha this is how you know they don't even play their own game, so blatant>>722404448Uh, have you even read? The game would be better off if Ozma was either fired or removed from non ultimate/T4 savage fights.Oh, sorry, did you expect me to say that I hecking love body checks? I'm not a raid tranny.
>>722404098OSRS if you don't get filtered by graphics
this thought came up when i read some random comment that ffxiv is a "vacation" mmo game you play when wow shits the bed. and when wow gets better, you leave ffxiv. and i'm like... i would NEVER touch wow, or any other mmo, at all. ever. not even ffxi! i just like ffxiv because it's ffxiv, as stale, boring, homogenized, and contentless as anyone claims it is. maybe i'm part of the problem lol.
>>722404598I got filtered by the crushing grind.>oh, I need to get A?>oh, but before I get A, the guide says I need to do B>but... before I can do B, it tells me I need to do C>and to C, I need D, E and F>and to do those I need to farm a 1/500 drop>welp.... I lowrolled the drop and it took me 5000 kills >at least I can finally do A now>oh, but now I wanna do G>and before I do G, I need....
I played because wow as having a bad time on shadowlands then i got curious, i had a bit of prejudice because anime mmo but boy i was wrong, On topic i played it because MMO and i wanted a new one, but it being a FF made me curious about the franchise so i finished FF1 and FF2 and someday i will go back to FF3 and the rest
I can't see myself going back. I did join mostly because I went "ah, MMO, i know what that means!" but I'm staying for how FFXIV is specifically.
>HD mageweave setYep, WoW won.
I've played since 2.0 and I've seen content lulls on and off. I've seen player activity spike up and down. The games population feels back to where it was before the shadow bringers hype except now there's more content and less people doing it. So back in stormblood this was ok because focused content funneled players together allowing for variety in content. In DT. You have newer players using duty finder and veterans avoiding it. This causes a huge problem in only seeing ARR content a majority of the time. So even though lower numbers mid parch is normal it feels much much worse than before when there's a huge void of content from the past 10 years that the game system moves you away from. They need to archive or make some of the lower quality content single player only. We don't need 24 player crystal tower. Dungeons from 1-60 should be removed from roulette and be trust or manual party only with optional min ilvl for higher rewards.
>>722402703
>get FFXIV paid cosmetic as a fun colab event for freeThe monster hunter wins again.
Krile Baldesion.
>>722404991>In DT. You have newer playersIt's a dying breed, chief.>Dungeons from 1-60 should be removed from roulette and be trust or manual party only with optional min ilvl for higher rewards.This is so wild. Asking for (higher) rewards and for people to play a mmo alone.This truly is XIV lmao.
>>722405116>the earring does NOTHING for herLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
>>722404585this but unironically, let Ozma cook in high-end content but don't put him in charge of midcore/casual stuff, we've had way too many "oops we made it savage" moments this expansion alreadythey had already nailed what midcore content should be like in Bozja with CLL/DR/Dalriada and still managed to shit the bed with FTpeople just wanted a harder version of alliance raids and instead Chaotic was just a savage fight with 24-player body checks
>>722405116But she Hashairesion.
>>722393101>we're What's the point of pretending to play this game while making anti threads every day for years? What is the root of your schizophrenia?
>>722404958This is the "before" pic, right? Otherwise the meaning of HD has changed
>>722400460Where does all the money go then?Job design is obviously underfunded.Dungeon design has been on rails since storm blood. Literally same shit copied with different skins.Quests are the same as ever.Raids have gone downhill since heavensward.Sure, boss designs are good sometimes but the gameplay loop is copied over and over.Where are the money YoshiP?
>>722400245Retard, the reason the mobile game is like that is because bugs made it. They can't help themselves.
>>722405236This is why it's baffling when they (yoship) say XIV doesn't need more people/budget. Imagine if they just had more teams dedicated for specific content. Everybody would be happy. Ozma could churn out 2-3 ult per expacs, midcore content could truly exist. Hell, we could even have more outdoor content that would not just be the same functional enemy that does point blank aoes/cones, for casuals.But nooo, they WILL keep the same formula while """"trying"""" new content with 0 foresight about when it will be dead (1 month top), that are just disguised savage fights.Makes me remember that they actually released chaotic CoD on christmas' eve... With FOMO rewards........... Again, they don't play their own game, so it's not surprising.
>>722404846that's nice :)
>>722405028what's with that yeeyee ass haircut he got?
>>722405570releasing Chaotic on fucking Christmas' eve was one of the most retarded decisions ever
>>722400861I miss ff14...What it is now is not the same game, neither gameplay, story or setting wise. I genuinely can't believe how expansion after expansion they are so adamant on completely shitting on the setting.
bring back she
>>722405787Who are the most retardest? The team who released it on christmas' eve, or the players who actually progged it painfully in pf.And that's also why we keep getting content so shitty, there will always be people eating out of his hand reverently. People have no respect for themselves. It's not about how good the game is for them, it's about how the game must be good because they're playing it (and saying it's bad = time lost)
>>722406085they just did
>>722406132i still haven't finished 7.3 desugetting IL high enough to fight Necron is so booooring
>>722405116There it is! The gang's all here!You update your bot script yet? Do anything in FFXIV this month?
Sucks i can't play with my friends with the trial but its whatever i guess
have XIV threads ever been good?
>>722406519stupid whore
>>722404598Based on most of the OSRS threads I see on /v/, people are getting filtered by the gay shit.
Bruh look at this dude
>>722394362in general gameplay maybe but all the content was great dumbing down MCH from HW was a crime
>>722406661>spamming 3 different custom lbs in 7.0>cripples her hands in 7.3 bashing a shield 3 timeswot
>>722394534>peaked in HeavenswardNo it didn't, right after the Alexander raids and raiders crying that it was shoving their shit in, it was the beginning of the end.
>>722406607:(
>>722406785so it peaked. jesus christ youre dumb.
>>722406785raiders bitched about raids in HW not because of the class gameplay but because they overtuned the shit out of gordias, midas and creator didn't have any issues aside from shitters getting filtered by brute justice and cruise chaser but that was a skill issue and not a "you literally do not have the numbers to beat this fight until week 4" or whatever they were doing with gordias
>>722406661The cat that killed FFXIV. She didn't do it alone but she is the symbol of Creative Studio 3's hubris. Thinking players would love a man beast of a character, when one of the most popular aspects of FFXIV was the cute characters and how cute people would make their characters through mods. Yshtola, Ryne, Gaia, even Lyse had fans because of how cute or attractive they were. Look at Sphene, she suffers from pretty shit writing as well but she's a cute character and a good voice actor which sort of saved her popularity. But there is no saving Woke Lemutt, none at all.
>>722406875NO U.That means it peaked in ARR
>>722399881>Criterion savageWhat happened to those btw? Where's DT's criterion/variant dungeons
>>722393237>since ShBsince SB
Same postersSame complaintsA true echo chamber
>>722406105both of them are retarded>>722407254remember how they fucked up Criterion by having it give little to no meaningful rewards upon completion? Yoshi P looked at the low clear numbers and his conclusion was that no one liked Criterion. that's literally all there is to itCBU3 are a bunch of out of touch retards
>>722395063>>722399959They did that to avoid another launch disaster at any point in the future. He explicitly stated that was the purpose of the new data centers. You faggots are being dishonest as usual around here. None of you can ever argue in a legit manner and it's sad.
>>722407479what did you expect exactly?new arguments? The game is in the middle of a dead patch, no one has anything to do.you're so fucking retarded
>>722407690>no one has anything to do.But I was told FFXIV has a lot to do!+Leveling jobs you don't give a fuck about+Achievements +Fishing+Crafting
>>722401542you can't now, they should've made every AR and role quest mandatory btw
>>722407569>Opened Oceania and Dynamis to help ease congestion of Dawntrial launch>Dynamis opened in November 1, 2022>Oceania opened January 22, 2022.>Dawntrail launch July 03, 2024, early access in June 28th of 2024.He opened them on the back of how popular Endwalker was, and with the expectation that growth would continue, and it did not which is why both data centers are dead.
>>722407787don't forget, if you don't pick up 1 of every item in the game and screenshot every texture used in the game at least once can you really say you have nothing to do????
Frankly nothing good. Fight design is genuinely some of the best we’ve ever had but everything else is significantly worse than ever. Especially the story.Job design is exactly what it was in 6.x but every job got a new finisher(s). Pictomancer is fun and unique though. BLM got utterly lobotomized. Viper is meh at best.There’s a new Ishgardian restoration like content called cosmic exploration but I’m not into crafting and gathering at all so I know nothing about it, reception included.The new exploration zone, crescent isle, is genuinely bad. It’s like they took Bozja then removed everything people liked about it. Bizarre behavior.They tried a hard 24 man raid but they massively overdid the difficulty and though it rewarded gear pugging it was such a nightmare nobody bothered. Plus they didn’t increase the gear’s item level with the new tier that it’s legit dead content now.The new deep dungeon is out in a week or two and to their credit they are making pretty huge changes to how it works including a variable difficulty called quantum which looks sorta like an answer to m+. Kinda. Maybe.Honestly if I were you I would wait until 8.0. DT’s fights are stellar, everything else is below mediocre.
>>722407218i really hope you're drunk and not actually this stupid
>>722408432>i>Calling others stupidLol
I dont think there's anything you could do to reverse the decline>fix the engine and technical debtbasically having to remake the entire game (again) all devs busy and can't work on anything else. 'new' content basically dries up and dies till they're done>fix the story and writinggameplay still stagnant. >fix boththat's just a new game. Not forgetting that it's a squeenix game that they give absolutely the bare minimum to maintain the game while extracting as much cash shop money as possible to fund their other failed projects. With out of touch leadership that just let the western mind virus team completely ruin the games reputation in one expansion.
>>722394056they added cute girls and that was enough to steal WoW's playerbase for a bit
>>722401198make party finder suck less for savage raidsif you dont already have a fc that does raids good fucking luck trying to prog. playerbase is full of fags that kick you immediately if you haven't already beaten the raid you're trying to queue for. its literally the meme of entry level job needing 10 years work experience
>>722408747They shouldn't have taken the popularity of Shadowbringers and Endwalker for granted and instead of pumping that money into FF16, Forpoken, Killer Inn, Foamstars, FFVIIr and a bunch of other games, they should have made sure their cash cow was secure by reinvesting enough to fix outstanding issues basically do an engine revamp like the mobile version, build the game again but on a new engine Unreal 4-5 which has automatically fixed technical debt.
>>722397802Meracydia emergency button. Niggas love dragons, they fix everything. People think it will be a retread of Heavensward I am SOOO ok with HW2.
>>722408837start by practicing high end content through extremes and old savagesyes, the game is dogshit at bridging the gap between content difficulties, but you gotta make do with what you got, even unsync'd high end content from last expansion can teach you something
>>722393101moonie fangs on my dick
Game needed to end at EW on a purely technical level. Game's been worst in genre netcode, systemcode, and securitycode since release and they want to do another 10 years of XIV. 2.0 was a 1.0 asset flip and that shit was designed to be on PStripples and Xbox three hundred and sixties along with all their network and technical limitations.I need you fucks to imagine this ominous possibility, you'll be queuing up for Frontline Roulette in 2030. The game barely fucking functions and the devs themselves outright say they have systems they can't work with, shit's ridiculous.EW literally ended the whole fucking game story, character, supporting character, gameplay, and everything else too, there was nowhere else to go. For fucks sake they give us an ISLAND TO RETIRE ON WITH FREE MAMMET SLAVES SO EVEN THE POOREST PEASANT PISSANT WoL CAN MAKE INFINITE MONEY!
how is the mobile version doing
>housing>addon bansfunny how wow is trying to eat xiv's market share
>What have I missed?Nothing
>>722409196why?if she bites by accident your dick will be punctured
the new player statistic is dire for DT. basically all the bitching about the game has turned anyone from outside completely off.
We moved on from the 'it was always gonna bleed players' back to technical debt huh
>>722409217am retardhow make money from Island?
>Barry>Anti-raid schizo>Pink lala spoiler webm>MarepostingAnything I missed?
>>722393167We lost. WoW won.
>>722409460We'll see if they actually succeed in banning combat addons or if layouts like with XIV just pop up in WoW too. But the housing system looks like an objective improvement from XIV, which is obviously not a high bar, but still.
This thread? Doing gangbusters.
>>722402135>Have an entire nation stuck in a hyperbolic time chamber>Have an army of disposable robots>Have a retinue of literal immortal fight junkies in a faux-WWE gladiator arena>Have the ability to cheat death with souls>Have superior technology to anything on the continent>Win a single skirmish via a surprise assault and then handily lose in every battle afterwardsEven the most comically inept Garlean mogged this retard.
>>722404814That's called gameplay. XIV players have a hard time understanding it.
>>722399810Even if for it to be another more polished version of the same tab target concept, it would be great to see a new online FF. XIV will be forever held down by le technical debt and le spaghetti code. Or at least Yoshi-P will forever keep using those excuses.
So why do we still have the dogshit housing system instead of a personal one for every player? Island Sanctuary made it clear that it's pretty much doable.
Job design is pretty similar to Endwalker, unless you play Black Mage specifically where it's been simplified a lot. Most jobs are 2-3% more interesting than in EW because they have new buttons, though Samurai has been the biggest winner IMO. WHM, SCH, and SGE all have new DPS buttons and thus marginally less ass DPS rotations but it's a pretty small change.
Chat is this true?
It’s bad. Unless you like content draughts spanning 5+ months with your only real content being to run the same raids over and over again mindlessly then I wouldn’t resub. WoW is a lot better than 14 rn I’d try that out.
>>722401198heavily monitize it, take all the short term wage bonuses I could and let it burn
This thread is unironically a microcosm of why ffxiv killed wow
>>722399881Not that anon, but i know people that for sure have the skill to do those things but simply cannot bother to.Playing in a static is kinda like having a job, and playing on the PF with the lower population of players doing ults is asking to waste more hours waiting for parties to fill than hours actually progging the fight.After watching a guide, just following the simon says really isn't that hard. Doing an ult blind while understanding the mechanics and developing strategies yourself is a whole other beast, but no one does that.
>>722410167say no more
>>722410743yeah they just closed a second server for new characters recently
>>722401198I would create cross world DF and PF and fix the garbage netcode for a start.
>>722408391>Honestly if I were you I would wait until 8.0Just wait until 8.55. No reason to play this game any other time if you're not doing savage. At least you have everything to catch up and more people are likely to play the game.This game is only made for savage raiders. It will die because of that.
>>722399980I'd pump her dumbass full of my semen
>>722401898Kino
>>722395063I'm still expecting Ben Starr to voice a character next expansion. Maybe a character that will stick longer like Zenos did. Hopefully a villain
>>722411635snowbunny
>>722393101from the outside it seems like anyone who plays MMOs in the current day is extremely mentally ill so the devs have to be aware of this and have come up with ways to appeal to these freaks? Or is there actually a population of normal gamers that enjoy the story and the raiding and stuff?
Are you excited for Feo Ul's deep dungeon?
>>722412140Will there be urethra fisting?
>>722410743FFXI players try to all move towards the most active servers and you have to consider that their capacities are much smaller than in modern mmos.Still funny to see it get an upsurge like that. Maybe I will revisit soon.
>>722410167If they want to Blizzard can rape illegal addons.There was one way back in WOTLK that could paint on the floor and tell you where to go next and blizzard killed it really fast.
>>722412296Yes, it's one of the effects from the new magicites.
>>722407569Now they have a disaster of having a data center that is completely dead, and new players who doesn't know any better are incentivesed to start a character there and think that the game is dead.
>>722412363If I remember correctly that one used the in-game API. Blizzard has control over that, but the issue is the ones that are external applications that act as overlays on top of your game rather than changing the game itself.
>>722402217>SAM>implying
If you want a closer look into how raidtrannies ruined MMOs, look up an article titled, The Tyranny of the Marginal User
>>722404057Ratatoskr's murder
>>722411462Solly, wii dontu hab the monei to imprumento sucho a biggu fearuruPreasu undastando
>>722412945dont care about some cope journos whining desu.
Blue Protocol's release is going to eat a good portion of XIV's playerbase.
>>722411635post full pic
>>722414294Sadly I don't have it.have my smut folder as compensationhttps://mega.nz/folder/nEZ3GaTK#1QuA_EyM0HDq_whQa_VmCg
>>722414004They can have all our trannies. The important thing is they keep them.
>>722414004not really, the problem with new MMOs is they can't compete with the amount of content old MMOs have, so people will play it and in a month it will lose 80% of players
>>722400479I really hate this idea that XIV was ever good. This game has never ever been superior in any aspect that matters to an MMORPG.Technologically it's not better than a super nintendo game. It's laggy. It's not built like an RPG, it's never really been a Final Fantasy game either.It's one saving grace was the MSQ, something not really done in an MMO. But nothing new has been added to the MSQ since ARR. No new technology. No way to do new things like mini-games and side quests or bonus missions or anything like, you know, a Final Fantasy game.The entire existence of this game is just loud minorities.
>>722409147you seem to misunderstand, the game part of the game is easy. when i get into an instance i can hard carry raids no problem. the issue is finding a group that will even let you into the instance if you're not already part of their circlejerk is fucking impossible, even in party finder, even if you hop to the "active" raiding data centers, good fucking luck finding a group that wont kick you immediatelybeing forced to solo and stick to raids you out level is boring. trying to prog on current patch at level cap is aids because everyone is an elitist faggot that wont give randoms a chance
Planting themselves as le story mmo is what has and will ultimately kill this game. As it gets longer and longer you CANNOT reasonably recommend this shit to friends over playing literally anything else. Yeah bro just go through this 400 hour visual novel THEN we can play together its kino though trust
>>722414846and even when you get there the "playing together" is just queuing up like any other contnet
The story of this game is already done, I don't care if the Winterers want some revenge on the WoL or they want the chalice to destroy or melt the shards again
>>722414818PF sucks balls and is filled with crying babies. These guys kicking you, these are the same guys that are going to greed every GCD they can, and often are the one dying the most. I've seen that so many times from orange parsers.The big problem you have is trying to prog fights that were released 6 months ago, on a patch where high end raiders have (for the first time, ever) nothing to do, just like most casual players.So either they're not playing the game until next week's DD, or they're the cancers you're finding in PF.It's not worth it, anon. It's not even difficult, it's just a lof of investment to prog until you finally find normal humans. For four fights.
>>722415127>The story of this game is already done, I don't careThen why are you here?
>>722414749>I really hate this idea that XIV was ever good. This game has never ever been superior in any aspect that matters to an MMORPG.The idea that FFXIV is "Good" in any sense comes from people who have never touched an mmo let alone any FF title before XII, Hell when XVI came out and YoshiP thought he had actual "fans", it turned out that none of them wanted anything to do with XVI either.
>>722415759For the lewds, and this thread is very disapointing
>>722414571>They can have all our tranniesEvery MMO has trannies, hell there was a tranny in BDO years back that got offended when you called it "He", but it attention-whored so hard in world chat, he'd get PK'd and bullied to a different channel.
>>722414571>They can have all our tranniesIt's already filled with trannies asking about "womb transplants" in the discord and crying about how it can't have children.
>>722393167my response is "we need more porn bait situations like Ryne being convinced to turn into the Shiva primal despite everyone knowing that it can end badly in a lot of ways, one of which almost ended up happening with the summoning deciding to focus on the bestiality bit of the shiva myth, with almost ended up with Ryne getting brainwashed and raped by a dragon right in front of everyone, which could have ruined the First a lot more if she started spawning light aligned dragons from her virgin womb like some fucked up saint allegory, completely ruining the girl's mind and body all the while she's probably screaming inside her own head for that shit to stop because primal summoning is incredibly dangerous and powerful."but no. instead we got taco taco tamale here's ratless ff9
>>722393101Release viera for f2p and I keep playing
>>722395063>It's looking far more likely Worlds are going to have to be shut down and merged because of the lack of player pop instead.Good luck, there has never been a server closure/merger since the transition between 1.0 and ARR.
>>722416589Chaos might as well be buried, since all retards travel automatically to Light for anything PF related.
>>722414414lol thanks
>>722399980Yshtola is smart and she's childless at 40Lyse is dumb and she already got a killcount of you at the very least. One of those is going to secure a bloodline that will make new heroes when the time is needed to save the world in the future. Not so dumb now huh?
Clean this dogshit thread up janny>>>/vg/
If FF17 was an mmo, and it was GOOD, would you be able to move on from your current WoL? A friend who is not really familiar with xiv made the claim,>"even if they make another mmo, everyone is too attached to their xiv character to move on" But I disagreed. Despite having 3000+ hours in this game, tons of achievements and rewards, and even some items that other players will never have access to, I would give all of that up in a heartbeat and start over in FF17 if it was fun. Would you?
>>722408087Oceania was pretty transparently to get the Aussies off of JP, same reason regional DC travel hasn't been implemented yet (keeping Americans out of other DCs)
games only gonna bleed more players
>>722417048they'd get over it and remake their WoL
>>722417038>rape general is up>radio silence
>>722417048People absolutely would, fresh starts in MMOs are very appealing.
>>722417048>tons of achievements and rewardswe playing the same game or what?but no, they'd need to nuke everything, they just can't remake the game while also updating every gear piecesLike, they can't even make hats work for viera and the gay race, and you actually expect them to import everything from xiv? brother...
>>722417626>Like, they can't even make hats work for viera and the gay race, they made a metric fuckton of hats work just recently
Post Ryne
>>722417673Yeah cool, and how long did it take them? Now extrapolate this, but with everything the game ever made, for every races.They can't even make normal OC, no budget.
>>722417849>how long did it take them?we have no way of gauging how much concentrated effort was actually put into it because they are busy developing and managing the rest of the video game
>>722417774Ryne my beloved
>>722417916I will tell you. It took them 2.5 expansions.Of course they're developping other stuff in game. And that would be the same if they made XIV 2.0.That's why it's dead. In no way they can remake the game in a new engine and continue. It's going to be XVII or something else, but you won't keep your character, you might just have a tiny bonus and that's it.And they're japanese, they're technically incompetent at best.
>>722418089ok
>>722417626>import everything from xivAre you ESL by chance? I never mentioned porting anything, quite the opposite in fact. My post was about starting a brand new game while leaving everything behind.
>>722417774
>people still believe in le next MMO thingLol lmao.
>>722419234extremely astroturfed wave of "just move on from FFXIV! when's the next game! it's time for a NEW mmo!" lately
>>722419337xiv is built on spaghetti code and 15 year old hardware. The fights have to be designed around everyone having 200 second latency from the shit netcode. It is time to move on. New code. New engine. And probably most important, new staff.
>>722393101I am more concerned with the nu-WoW levels of writing shown in FFXIV. Whomever thought Wuk Shit should be the center of the plot should have been laughed out of the writer's room and shot in a dark alley.
so patch is on tuesday? should i go whm or sage for it?
>>722401898>we need cataclysm no.
>>722419975SHOW PANTIES!!!!
>>722419975Whatever you want to do you should do
>>722419621you and i both know that isn't why retards are clamoring for XIV to die in favor of a new mmo
Does anyone know who was the one who pushed for Wuk Lamat? I need their names so I can veto them forever from any media I consume from now on.
I love Elezen women so much it's unreal
>>722420267>clamoring for XIV to die in favor of a new mmoeveryone should be clamoring for a new MMO and XIV to die, you'd have to be the retard to want them to keep trying to "save" XIV for a few handful of trannies who can't let go.
>>722419780>nu-WoW levels of writing shown in FFXIV.Sorry anon I can't let this one slide, it's still nowhere close to as bad as WoW, I don't care how hard you hate le trany lion. Needless to remind the thread that The Jailer is pretty transparently Thanos from the then-recent Avengers Endgame movie.
>>722420373you literally are not reading anything i post kwab
>>722398686>YOU CAN BE A SHOGUNYou won't be shogun, you'll be daimyo that hands the job off to somebody else the moment you become shogun
>>722420580there is literally no context in which anyone wanting XIV to die for a new MMO is wrong, you retarded fuck.
>>722401198birb sex
>>722420694if that were true you wouldn't need to ignore most of my posts or what this reply chain was even about kwab
>>722401641It's almost as if begging for a fucking engine rewrite and database transfer to happen within the space of one expansion is deserving of getting shut down because of the enormity of the ask
>>722420301HiroiKateYoshi-P
>>722409217>EW literally ended the whole fucking game storyPlease shut the fuck up with this meme already. It was a rushed piece of shit cramming 2 half assed expansions together. All they need to do is retcon it from existence.
>>722420440>a base game and two expansions building up to fighting the garleans>actually it's an isekai now :))))Sorry anon but this is much worse than what california could write
>>722420007why would anyone do that
>>722421026Because i asked?
>>722419234if they aren't working in a new MMO, clearly they are working in another title because this quality, quantity and pace of content FFXIV is receiving isn't normal if they are just working in this game.
>>722420950Dumb misdirection happens literally every expansion, plus the Garleans were getting hinted at being stooges for a larger conspiracy all the way back in ARR with how similar the Allagans were on their face.>>722420917Retconning it to appease people that started playing in Shadowbringers would probably be the highest cuckoldry they could ever perform
>>722421072weirdo
>Add ONE (1) tranny>Game immediately diesHonestly, isn't that a little much?
>>722421139NICE!
>>722421158>anon subscribes>game immediately dies
I was such a casual player when i played it. I don't know what the fuck i was doing i just liked the cosmetics and just chilling playing it without sound and listening to podcasts or music or other type of shit (i did clear the dungeons and raids first with sound, but afterwards without). I stopped playing in shadowbringers, what made me play a lot was the nier raid reveal, since i was a huge nier fan i had to do the alliance raid to find out about the lore.
>>722421158i'll never forgive them for taking chromie away
After every interesting lore point XIV's world because>ummm ackshully that was ancientsI do not give a single shit about where the story goes next. It's ruined
Was thinking about starting xiv, what’s with the doom and gloom about it?
>>722421254>ummm ackshully that was allagansNothing has changed
>>722421309Just wow tourists and rp trannys having meltys.
>>722421309The last story expansion sucked and ruined a lot of people's enthusiasm for the game. If you want to start today you'll have a lot of great content to play through before you get to the lame stuff at the end so it's still worth it.
>>722421309FFXIV is a game whose main appeal was the plot. Shifting the plot to focus on some troon furfag girlboss did not sit well with anyone.
>>722421309people dissapointed with the state of the game and WoW-falseflaggersthe game itself is fun if you're a new player thought. started playing last year
>>722421309after shadowbringers the game got big enough to have a very dedicated hate-base, i would argue the game is stagnant but that stagnancy also means LITERALLY NOTHING to anybody who hasn't already been playing it for 5-10 years so crack it open on the free trial. if you don't gel with it after level 30 to 50, the level range where your class becomes a job and you get your artifact armor, then drop it because you most likely won't like the remaining 50 levels where 95% of the game is
>>722393101XIV should've ended in Endwalker, Dawntrail should've been an epilogue expansion and by the end they tease FF17 being an continuation or a brand new MMO.I mostly believe this due to how archaic and broken XIV systems are, not to mention the dogshit gameplay, all good things must come to an end sooner or later.
>>722421218And now you are a tranny?
>>722421418there were civilizations that preceded allag except now those are also just "muh ancients"
>>722421309>5 (You)s from pretending I don't know what state the game is in. Delicious.
>722421531holy shit you are mindbroken
>>722421309visual novel disguised as mmo and the mmo part sucks ass
>>722421576allag and the war of the magi civilizations are the only really notable ones of any previous calamity's era, the ancients are typical atlantis myth
>>722421754It was joke
>>722421893>On being told I was bait posting, he continues to reply
>>722421917e-elezen...
>>722421917femra women have horizontal pussies
>>722422078cloaca style but still has a separate anus
>>722422008Are bad at flirting
>>722420339Sex with Alphinauds mom.
>>722422078No they have ovipositors in the form of psuedopenises similar to hyena females
>>722421112nonono, it's ok. You don't have to defend mediocre nip writing. It's fine to just admit the entire writing and development of xiv is retarded on purpose because it's made by Square Enix and designed by someone that never played MMOs in the first place.
>>722422283we again reiterate that world of warcraft copied avengers endgame
>>722421917>This conversation about elf ears is super exciting>You know what lets go to my place and FUCK.You'll stay single forever.
>722420917
>>722421158>Adds 5 grams of cyanide to someone's drink.>Person fucking dies 5 minutes later.Truly a mystery.
>>722422256ameliance deliveries, or as i like to call them, "courting ameliance in full and open view of fourchenault,"
>>722422370and what game copied WoW?
>>722422580show me the thanos reference in FFXIV
>>722422412As i said, they are not very skilled in the art of seduction
>>722422498I do the deliverances because I want Ameliance's blessing when I finally marry Alphinaud.
>>722422634She'd be pushing Alisaie into your arms too, the twins are a package deal and can't be separated from eachother or they'll get anxious like bonded shelter pets
WIFE!
>>722422432I'd live if that was my drink, 5 grams is nothing
>>722422580
THREE DAYS LEFT TO CLAIM YOUR RANKSTUDIES SHOW HAVING A PRESTIGIOUS CRYSTALLINE CONFLICT ADVENTURER PORTRAIT GETS YOU LAIDQ UP
>>722419780>nu-WoW levels of writing shown in FFXIVHave you not noticed how despite the garbage fire of a story dawntrail was, no one ever tried to compare WoW's latest expanion to it? I have not seen a single post made in last year myself and after borrowing an account from a friend to play through the latest patch because I head it's full of ethereals I'm not surprised wowbros don't even have the balls to compare it to dawntrail MSQ.
>>722422498
>>722422618The thanos reference? You mean the entire race that wants to sacrifice living people for the rejoining? oh poor anon
>>722422980actually come to think of it ever since dawntrail launched even with people constantly, like, fucking spiraling like a rifle bullet constantly about how awful horrible no-good very bad it is, you're right i have not seen a SINGLE "wow's story is better" post
>>722422980Wuk Lamat and the one armed black ape-thing are eerily similar in how everything and everyone revolves around them, despite being nowhere in the plot previously, or even mentioned.
>>722423114Wuk drops off the face of a cliff after 7.0 and I don't remember anything really revolving totally around Epic Raubahn Reference. By the way another W for FFXIV that she's pretty blatantly referencing Raubahn.
>>722393101>be me, classic ff fan>always wanted to play 11, missed the boat >see 14 is popular, decide to try the new ff mmo>play through the story, fun game, nice story>join a fc, cool>end up spending most of the time now hanging out with a group of guys acting like girls, listening to them talking about fashion and decorating>they convince me to install some mods to look cooler>okay, sure>they're all half-naked with giant tits doing stripper dancesThis is what FF is now. And it's fun.
>>722422980I enjoyed playing through the leveling story of TWW more than DT launch MSQ. It was a lot shorter and not very good, but still better than DT.I haven't played either game after launch so I can't say about the patches
>>722423224Huh? Last I saw Wuk Lamat was after the Necron fight, having done some heroic sacrifice or something. I hope she fucking dies then.
>>722423367It seems you've confused seeing her at all for the universe revolving around her. Common mistake, also "cute aggression" isn't real by the way
>>722422916>picFunnily enough I met my irl wife of 7 years because she complimented my Feast armor. But I sincerely doubt anyone is getting /tells over cc portraits.(for the record, cc is funner than feast by a longshot, too bad they stopped giving real rewards)
>>722422983Nasty woman
>>722423414Fuck off, Kate.
>>722393101Same as WOW after finishing the original story the quality will decline and players will leave.
>>722423414Cute...? If I want cute then there are the lalas and catgirls/boys. And I have no issue with those. Wuk ain't cute. Not in this universe.
>>722423529reading comprehension of the average wuk lamat obsessor........
Woke Lamat is moe.
>>722423559Or maybe you are shit at expressing yourself.
>>722423471Kate holds no power here. You must confront your demons head-on.
>>722421139why are lalafells such sluts for big men?
>>722423471NO! YOU ARE WRONG!
>>722409460>>722410167>>722412363wait are you telling me WoW doesn have paint on the floor addons? i dont think i could play FFXIV without BossMod and Wrath
>>722423737WoW has relied on similar mods for waaaaaaaaay longer than people who can't hack it in Savage/Ultimates have in FFXIV
>TFW the boy twinKwile, you too pwosesse the echo.
>>722414004>Blue Protocolstill dont know the difference between this and the other game thats coming out Blue Protocol: Star Resonance
So do you guys just sit in the inn rewatching Wuk Lamat cutscenes over and over to stay mad or something?
>>722423737>Wrath Combo is a plugin for XIVLauncher.>It's a heavily enhanced version of the XIVCombo plugin, offering highly customisable features and options to allow users to have their rotations be as complex or simple as possible, even to the point of a single button; for PvE, PvP, and more.You actually play like this?
wait this is a game? I thought people use this like vrchat only
>>722422983where would I find more of these specifically? (asking for a friend)
Remove the sub from FFXI
>>722423926One guy in these threads I remember gets super fucking turbo mad if you're aware he's reiterating 7.0 over and over for the sake of complaining about it, I imagine his goal is more to be a constant public nuisance than he's actually mad about anything but he's also mentally ill to have a goal of being a public nuisance for months or years at a go, so who can say really
>>722414004>chink-revived dead on arrival scamco mmoI genuinely do not think anyone will be stupid enough to even look this shit up
>>722423930hell yeah dood my ffxiv is basically 90% automated lmao
>>722423926what
>>722424124Before Blue Protocol it was supposedly gonna be New World that destroyed FFXIV, for reference. That Amazon MMO that had to hard pivot to PvE just barely before release, because they learned the hard way nobody fucking wants PvP oriented MMOs.
>>722424070if you do that then you'll be losing out on the people paying 30 dollars a month to rent their youth back
>>722424181Do you do Savage/Ultimate raiding? Do you get good logs?I assume these addons are just better than human players since the rotations are so deterministic, but I don't want it to be actually true
>>722424431perfect automated rotation don't mean anything if you can't walk out of the bad at the right time, is the trick with these things
>>722393101I remember when people on /xivg/ thought this was my cat but turns out, it was another person from the thread that was on the server I played on
>>722424000Twitter, don't remember the artist tho, sorry.Just find some xiv posers and follow them and you get lots of recommendations for others to follow. Same with PixivYou could also try asking in the /vg/ thread, they are occasionally helpful.The thread on /aco/ tends to get pissy when you post stuff that isn't your OC, but occasionally there is a NPC thread>>722414414There should be some of Ameliance in my mega >>722414414, but it's a bit of a unsorted mess (I'm working on sorting it, but my ADD keeps distracting me)
I quit in 2020.All I wanted was another Eureka. Eureka 2.0 was what I wanted.Bozja sucked. I noped out once COVID hit, I played what I wanted by then.Sad the combat got even worse from what I read. I miss complicated SCH healing.
Shit "game". Fuck you if you play xiv.
>>722424745Bozja was better than Eureka
>>722424509Yes, but dodging circles is a binary/digital check. You either pass the test or not. When you know the attack patterns, you can always do the mechanics and dodge properlyDoing good damage is analogue, there's a sliding scale of success. If you can automate yourself to get a 100 every time, it's incredibly useful.The mechanics are also designed in such a way that you're supposed to be preoccupied with executing your rotation, but if your rotation is just handled by an AHK script spamming 1, it makes the mechanics a lot more simple to do.
>>722424824It was uglier and had shit mobs. It was not better in any way. Fucking eyesore. Eureka >>>> Bozja
Kate never got fired huh?This game has no chance of redemption.
>>722425018i still don't get itthey blacklisted Susan Calloway but won't get rid of Kate
>>722425117It's abundantly obvious where the corruption within Square enix lies.Let them die.
>>722420339Me too but that looks fucking grotesque.
>>722393237>>722393548I joined during shadowbringers so I have no grounds to input on these topics! But I think the game was great until DT!
>>722422776The mask needs to stay on
>>722422704Fine. She can sit in the cuck chair then.
>>722420950I can't believe Garlesissies are STILL fucking crying.
>>722425348I agree (but she's cute without it too)
>>722425546I really wish FFXIV would let me give my character actual big breasts. I chose the biggest size on my hyur and you can barely notice them.Maybe one day, when they get rid of the fucking ethics council.
>>722423414I licked a toilet seat at fanfest that you used Kate.
>>722425018>>722425117>square enix does absolutely nothing>everybody forgets about it because it was temporary outrage spearheaded by a streamersquare enix wins again baybeeeeeee
>>722425117Susan liked a Conservative twitter account.Kate on the other hand has voiced support for Antifa and left wing politics, policies, for purging 'confederates' and how disgusting 'cis-white' people are. Square Enix are a Woke company, they were one of the only video game companies to fly the rainbow pride tranny flag for pride month on their social media with their own pride mascot.
>>722423224>>722423414Wuk is shoved in your face during every single piece of side content this expansion, but you don't know that because you don't play FFXIV.
I still loved the 6.0 story but I don't know what the fuck they were thinking with dropping every plot point in endwalker patchesNot to mention the abysmal dogshit story with zero and wuk lmaoAlso I never liked ffxiv gameplay, most fun I had was solo levelling BLU, getting most of the spells by myself then getting a group to do e12s.Will come back for 8.0 msq but if its still bad I think its time to move on from FF as a series I guess.
>>722425945Where's Susan Calloway?
>>722393101We're lower than HW/SB active, lmfaocope
>install the whole set of autoplayer plugins because I want to farm the casting and healing set from matoya's relict but can't be assed to play through it 500 times>one day play through a raid with boss mod because i forgot to turn it off>it's so easy to just let the machine think for you>slowly becoming more and more dependent on it
>>722425945>Win by driving away more than half their player base.
>>722425345I started playing in early 2015 before HW. The game used to be a lot more punishing.>all MNK GCDs besides aoes had positionals>NIN wouldn't apply Trick Attack if you missed the rear positional requirement>DRG was super rigid and also wouldn't give the buff from Heavy Thrust if you missed the flank positional>BRD had Flame Arrow which was a ground aoe DoT at a time where you could and had to move bosses around>healers had Cleric Stance>Tanks had to actually pay attention to aggro instead of being monkeys like they are now>people used to use poison pots for DPS (sometime before I started playing)>SMN was a DoT based job instead of eating crayons (fuck DoT based jobs though and fuck you if you think that was better)>BLM was still the "I want to stand in one spot" job>everyone sucked fucking dick at the game just like they do now even with plugins
>>722425007>it was uglywoman moment
>>722426045Isle of Failed Martyrs
>ARR and HW postgame >set up the world and upcoming expansion almost immediately, no mystery boxes>SB-DT postgame>there's a hard plot A and plot B, latter is saved for after JP media tour and everything feels dragged out and unsatisfactory Genuinely what happened here?
>>722426116>slowly becoming more and more dependent on itI did that too but I couldn't fucking stand it on my screen so I turned it off and was better off for it. Cleard FRU very easily without it or any other plugins for that matter on a job I never played beforehand
>>722401542For a while after Heavensward, I thought Middy and the story of the dragons' alien origin plus whatever the yet-unseen First Brood members have been getting up to on the Source could have begot more really cool stories that didn't need to be tied to the Ascians and ancient human civilisation, but Endwalker ended up both 'spending' Vrtra (and later Azdaja) from among the latter and putting a rather final bow on the former with how Ultima Thule exposited on the Dragonstar and the war with Omicron. Then, with Dawntrail I initially thought there were still sparks of potential with the concept of cleaning up after the messes the Ascians left behind on the Shards that could lead to the rise of new threats like Foundation/Calyx, but then as of the latest story patch it looks like the little dweeb *is* getting all his ideas directly from some lesser Ascian dumbass, and my hopes evaporated.
>>722402867Unf
>>722426163goodthe half that sprouted up from shadowbringers is insufferable rapefugees
>>722418061Made for her goth mommy gf
ff14 player in the wild
>>7224221672cute
>>722426416Cool non-answer but where's Susan Calloway?
Look at this dork!
whats the correct choice here
>>722426501>Win by losingOk Justin Trudeau
>>722426249God, that hotbar brings me back. I still have a lot of those skills on my non-jobstone bars.
>>722426647>totally ignored>persistskwab
The beginning of the end was when they gutted SCH
>>722426701trudeau won thoughbeit
>>722426710>replying to you means i ignored you!We both know your ego isn't capable of not replying. So where's Susan Calloway?
>>722426659There is nothing gay about sticking your dick in there
>>722426659based shota lover but i demand more incest from her
>>722417048Absolutely. I believe that people who wouldn't would be a minority. Plus the new game would probably have some similarities with XIV so people would still be able to recreate their cat girls on the new one.
>>722426675Leaving the room, because 3DPD
>>722426704>you'll never use Ring of Thorns again
>>722426675stack them on top of eachother like cord wood and fuck one, then the other, go low, then high
>>722426701>never lost an electionleaf cuckervatives are pathetic. you don't even have your own culture war to get mad at, so you sniff amerikkka's farts instead.
>>722426602Kinda looks like that one community manager
>>722426432Omega and Warriors of Darkness are both setups though and aren't paid off until 3.5 and 5.0
>>722426045Nobody gives a shit about Susan Castaway
>>722426675Oyakodon with Ameliance holding Alisaie legs open presenting her for (you) so that you can take her virginity
>>722426978Really? So where is she then?
>>722427017>give ameliance a daughter AND a granddaughterhrrrnnnnggghhhh
>>722426746>>722426917I said, Ok Justin Trudeau.
>>722394534I can at least think of things that were added in Stormblood, if you take the arc of Samurai's job design it has just had shit deleted since it was released to fit more iai spam in.
>>722421531I love those kinds of XIV feet images, and i know from the twitter where this one came from. Can you recommend some other twitters that post similar images?
>>722422261and just like hyenas they need a male to strech them open, so get ready for docking procedure
>>722426786>>722427047annoying little brother posts
>>722422008It's on the First, so it's elves.
>>722427172Where's Susan Calloway? You insist on replying but you can't seem to answer that question for some reason.
>>722426920Omega was a throwaway line in ARR, but WoD was it's own whole plotline that had a proper ending but they decided to revist
>>722427167The egg takes care of that
>>722427158Think i saved it from the /vg/ thread, not really into feet myself so i don't really have any reconsolidations, sorry
>>722426249>all this SOVL removed to appease turbocasuals who treat the game like a VN
Helping the twins earn some extra coin
WHERE IS THE JOKEEERRRRWHERE IS HEEEEE
>>722427503Source?(please tell me it's not AI)
>>722425345You really have to stop projecting.
>>722426893>Heavy Thrust combo'd into Ring of Thorns>They remove the postional requirment on the HT buff>Still required the positional for the combo bonus on ThornsI made fun of that for years.
>>722425659the boob slider was made before the ethics department
>>722427539Clown-town?
>>722427475>play dragoon>barely anything has changed since HW>kinda hated geirskogul from the start so i don't care what happens to it
>>722427073i understand your point albeit trudeau won
>>722426249Don't forget>Cross class skills>Job class requirementsEven if you just wanted to turbo out one Job you still had to actually experience playing as at least some of the other classes in the game
>>722427257Omega had multiple cutscenes unearthing it in Cartenau to the point a lot of theories pre-hw were about how important it'd be in HW.WoD was an obvious setup considering they also set up different shards in the Antitower in the same patch.
>>722427503it always bugs me to see alphinaud positioned as a bottom, when he's the epitome of a pussy slayer. proper alphinaud art would be him having beautiful women on leashes or something
>>722427691Gonna need the sauce chief
>>722427759if he's being made to have a threesome with alisaie he should be getting her warmed up for whoever the third is
>>722427803Sadly i don't have it, just that cropped picture
>>722427475The funniest thing about this comment is ARR/HW was already made for turbo casuals. Most of you ARR/HWfags sucked so much dick it had to be dumbed down further.
>>722427639Not me, I'm genuinely talking about myself
>>722427725DRG has changed a good amount. No longer needing to time your LotD and positionsl requirements for combo extenders gone makes it far less engaging. Also rip JO tether...
>>722427815yeah, i mean i get it. he's also a twin and twins are ripe for twincest and threesomes. but by himself? alphinaud should be doing the duke nukem pose on a throne with y'shtola on the ground next to him
>>722427917They never should have nerfed Steps of Faith. That was the beginning of the end.
>>722427948don't miss heavy thrust, do miss my buff child leash
>>722427917Yeah, and it still amazes me how a casual game can always be further driven into the ground
>>722427581I don't know the Source.Probably AI, sorry bro>>722427759He's good at drawing women, sure.But he can't even stand up to Krile or his sister.He'd get fucked into the ground unless he asks nicely to be on top.
>>722424124Bit ironic to say when you're playing FFXIV innit
>>722428090well thats not really fair. Krile put all her points into Elf Boy Destruction
>>722428008>>722428020While I get the mentality of helping people go thru the story it's horrid how much shit got removed rather than retooled in a more engaging way from 1.0 to 2.0 and 2.0 to 3.0. Easier to just remove than to rework it and having to balance it every new combat instance.
>>722428008Turning it into a solo instance is further insult desu
>>722428184>While I get the mentality of helping people go thru the storyI don't get it at all. Why does having a story mean it shouldn't also be a game? In any other game you have to earn your way through the story.
>>722428184They removed best 'sthola
>>722426249>fuck DoT based jobs though and fuck you if you think that was better
>>722427917>Most of you ARR/HWfags sucked so much dick it had to be dumbed down further.This is true. A lot of people sucked during ARR/HW but there were some good people here and there(myself included).>try to do a3s>nobody in pf could get past Hands of Pain>people would fail passing Digititus because of the netcode>try to join statics>they all fucking suck tooI was genuinely mad that everyone just kept doing the same thing over and over and over again instead of fucking learning what they were doing wrong.
>>722428584Let me guess. A post calling out Kate?
>>722428584jej
>>722427742He was killed so he won.
>>722428630>>722428642No this was from years ago and I forgot that I was perma banned. I called Hunts loot pinata welfare handout gear for people too shit to clear raids
>>722423737lol uninstall the game shitter
I think XIV would be better if the gear was purely cosmetic
