You know what I just realized? If the bukkake ricetards at Nintendo would just make a deal with steam and put all their shit into the steam store I would actually play some Nintendo games again. I had a lot of fun with them back in the day. I would probably buy a bunch of classic n64 and gamecube shit like pikmen and windwaker to play at my desk. Nintendo would make money off me again. But without doing that and limiting themselves to only the most soiy tier consoles and games on the market, they will never see my money again. Why doesn't Nintendo wise up and cash in on their good old shit while they still can, buy making it available to PC chads.
>>722393412Can you please complete your English lesson on Rosetta Stone before attempting to spew your nearly incomprehensible ESL schizo babble at me, anon?
>>722393412Kys
>>722393572>incomprehensibleYou read, right? You don't only play video games, right? Let me retard this down for you:Nintendo needs to offer their shit on steam, so I can play it.
>>722393710It's better if you don't play them
Just emulate them if you care so much you useless retard.
>>722393812>>722393630>t. sumimasen zoomersFine, emulator it is.
>>722393840Yes you dumbfuck, I'm saying I would pay the $5/game on steam just to save my time if Nintendo was smart enough to do it. Not everyone is poor and brown like you /v/eople.
>>722393959wow you would pay $5, let me call Nintendo right now and tell them
If you are too poor and brown to play modern Nintendo games, you simply don't deserve to play them. Sure, as technology improves over time you can emulate the old shit, but Sw2 emulation is going to take fucking years. This is not the Sw1.Nintendo does not need your money. They have a tidal wave of money pouring in, every single day, of such a scale that it is impossible for someone as poor as you to even fathom. And they always will.I for one am glad that Nintendo is a rich man's platform now. As God and Iwata intended.
>>722393710>Waaaah, I dun wanna go to the mountain!>The mountain should come to me!>Waaaaaaaah!
>>722394182Iwata-san would shart himself if he saw what Nu-tendo has become...but ok.
>>722394302Theyre making better games, better consoles and making more money than they ever did with him in charge. They are remastering or bringing back Gamecube and Wii games from when he was President, and they're selling like hotcakes. They're unifying all of Nintendo's history on one platform, the Switch 2. You may never accept it, but the Nintendo of today is Iwata's dream fully realized. He simply didnt live long enough to bask in the shade of the trees he planted.
>>722394182>>722394219They're the MCU of video games
>>722393959>I totally know how to emulate. I just really really want to waste $5 just to save a miniscule amount of time.lol
>>722393959>Pirates and emulators are brownThis fucking psyop againFuck off marketerfag
>>722393412The whole "Nintendo not porting to PC at all" thing is easily one of the greatest errors in the history of the video game industry. The walled garden idea isn't such a bad strategy, but Nintendo forces this idiotic all-or-nothing attitude wherein they port ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Not even Apple does that. So they refuse to port ancient games, right? Let's say Donkey Kong (1983). Not unreasonable at all to port that after some 40 fucking years. But no, they refuse, and so emulators step in. Now, whoops! The whole fucking Nintendo catalog is on PC for free, with millions of downloads across an absurd number of sites. You can go to Etsy and find dozens of dudes selling raspberry Pi's with NES-N64 emulators and making absurd amounts of money off it. There are patreons that make fortunes off of emulation, ducking out and coming back to avoid getting sued.It's literally worst case scenario for Nintendo on the PC front. They lose an incalculable amount of money each year to emulation, and even if they started porting shit now they could only get a small fraction of the pie. And the funny thing is that having the Nintendo library available for free has done nothing to hurt console sales, which was the whole fucking point of not porting to PC. One day Nintendo will realize that the few retards they've sued over emulation are just the tip of the iceberg, and when they do they'll be kicking themselves for all eternity.
>PC "chads" port begging at Nintendo thread no. i already lost the count
make a petition on change.org, maybe they'll listen
>>722394612>t. brownoid
>>722394182Nintendo does not need your money.It's a capitalist endeavor that's publicly owned. They literally, categorically do want his money.
>>722394669A sane /v/ poster, my God. That's what I'm saying, they have nothing to lose and everything to gain because if I want I can get their entire pre-switch catalog at the drop of a hat. >>722394585 "people" like this seem to think its a skill to download shit but you can get emulator apps on your phone now. But I would actually rather buy it on steam, and it's simply money that Nintendo isn't getting for no reason other than some misguided marketing philosophy driven by coasting off their former success. They can't coast off retards forever without becoming a pure slop company and being acquired by the jewdozer. Not that I know but I wouldn't be surprised if they already have.
>>722394768No one's falling for it faggotshill
>>722394452>waaaaaaaah waaaaaaaah waaaaaaaah Will someone please change your diaper already?
>>722395073>emulating is totally easy! I...j-just dont feel like doing it. Please let me pay so I dont have to do this totally simple thing.
>>722396226OP exposed as a techlet
>when pchuds don't get lucky on switch 2 emulation like they did on switchenjoy your 5+ year weight
>>722393572You honestly type like you're ESL. Some of the shit you say is too perfect or proper. It's weird. OP is probably not ESL because he is breaking the rules of English the way a native speaker would
>>722393412I honestly wouldn't play most of them, maybe 1% of nintendo's catalogue of games is worthwhile. Nu/v/ likes to clown on indies, but honestly there are a lot of them that are truly superior to the vast majority of nintendo's output, especially nowadays. Like I don't want to play windmaker and pikmen, those games are ass.
>>722394771Let me put it like this: the golf club manufacturers do not give a rat's ass about poor people. The whole golf industry doesn't, why do you think golf tournaments have Rolex ads everywhere? You think brokies in Harlem or Brazil are gonna buy a Rolex? They care about making golf clubs for wealthier people with expendable income who will blow a ton of money on expensive golf clubs because theyre passionate about golf, and have money. Likewise, Nintendo doesn't need poor people's money. Wealthier people are already fighting each other and crashing the website trying to buy their shit. In Japan you literally CANNOT buy a Switch 2 without winning a lottery first.The demand is absolutely unfathomable to you retards. The amount of money Nintendo is sitting on is comparable to Elon or Bezos or MBS. Nintendo probably generated 5 million dollars while I was typing this post.No. They dont need your money. Trying to appeal to everyone is a failing strategy, knowing your target audience and catering (and strategically pricing) towards them is why Nintendo can't stop winning.
>>722396627>the golf club manufacturers do not give a rat's ass about poor peopleUh poor people can definitely golf. You can go to a public course for like $20. You're conflating this with private courses, which are usually just an excuse for rich people to sit in a club and drink while eating badly made overpriced sysco food. Much like Sony and Microsoft Nintendo is "gated" because they want a closed and controlled ecosystem where their latest Mario Party entry doesn't get whacked with a 40% rating on steam, and we see that happening as Microsoft and Sony move to PC. These are paper tiger companies that keep consumers attached to a brand, an outdated concept which becomes less and less viable with each passing day. (And that's a good thing)
>>722394669I'm not reading all that
>>722395073>people" like this seem to think its a skill to download shit but you can get emulator apps on your phone now. But I would actually rather buy it on steamwhy?
Nip companies gonna nip, and there's nothing you can do about it, even if you're a nip yourself. There are many different reasons they do utterly baffling shit, and most of them have nothing to do with money.
>>722396871>$20my point exactly, golf is a rich man's sport even considering something like that. How often can a poor person afford to spend that $20? There's a reason blacks and south americans play basketball and soccer so much: no fee to play, anyone can play, all you need is the ball and a goal. Golf you gotta play to play the course, pay the fee to rent clubs or a kart. There is a reason this sport is predominantly white and asian and Tiger was an anomalous exception to the rule (and also half asian). Michael Jordan wasn't golfing in the hood, he only started doing that shit once he got rich. Think about it man. And honestly, I have a $3000 PC (few years back) with an RTX 3090 and an i9. And at the end of the day...the Switch 2 offers something that my PC can't. You can cope about emulating and upscaling all you want, it doesn't match having Mario Galaxy upscaled with new textures and controls and UI in 1080p on a tablet device you can just hold in your hands and play. A Steam Deck can't do that, the screen isn't even 1080p. The Steam Deck would start dropping frames in F-Zero GX or causing glitches at times, hell even my PC would drop a frame or two. The Switch 2 Gamecube emulator seems fucking flawless in comparison for F-Zero GX at least. Playing Metroid Prime Remastered with motion control aiming was a more immersive experience than running VR games with this PC. Tears of the Kingdom on Sw2 is the only thing that tops emulating it on my PC in terms of how flawless the experience is. Bananza is a game like no fucking other, there are games with destructible elements or platforming or transformations, but nothing is doing what Bananza does all at the same time, as perfectly as Bananza does.There is a fucking reason Nintendo hardware and games sell: the hardware is more than just a glorified PC (unlike Sony and Microsoft) and the games are extremely unique and actually good. So yeah, people are willing to cough up for it.
>>722397279>Nip companies gonna nipPlenty of Japanese companies don't do that. Bamco is raking in money on an extremely shitty digimon rpg right now because they didn't do that. And if it was a console exclusive it would have surely flopped.
>>722397370yeah let's just have a polite slow clap for Digimon Time Strangers before the "Pokemon ZA sells 20 million copies in one week" headline drops lmfao
>>722397287>golf is a rich man's sport even considering something like that. How often can a poor person afford to spend that $20Every day? It costs more than that to go to the movies. You're just making it obvious that you're a neet.>There's a reason blacks and south americans play basketball and soccer so much: no fee to play, anyone can play, all you need is the ball and a goalBasketball requires a court, and municipalities even have free golf courses occasionally. There aren't many people golfing, period, because it's for old people.>You can cope about emulating and upscaling all you want, it doesn't match having Mario Galaxy upscaled with new textures and controls and UI in 1080p on a tablet device you can just hold in your hands and playThe new mario galaxy port is 540p upscale. The switch is for poor people and it ironically costs less than a set of decent golf clubs.>The Switch 2 Gamecube emulator seems fucking flawless in comparison for F-Zero GX at leastAll emulators on the switch have enormous input delay, in combination with the very poor quality screen which has a lot of lag, making it not very good even for playing NES games. And from an input standpoint, well the joycons are terrible, so you'd have to hook it up to a monitor and use a controller anyways as tabletop mode is a complete joke.Handhelds are for lazy people who don't really like video games and want to passively play casual ones in bed as a distraction. It's obvious what it is, and why people are attracted to it. No point in pretending otherwise.
>>722396449https://voca.ro/1aE9NwYmmN1W
>>722394416> He simply didnt live long enough to bask in the shade of the trees he planted.RIP, sweet prince. Nintendo is safe with us.
>>722397681everybody doesnt get the switch 1 and 2 until one day they actually try it and are like "oh shit wait a minute, this actually fucking rules." I simply do not notice any input delay on Gamecube, I've played these games since a kid and on PC and Deck. Don't notice shit desu. I don't care about some digital foundry metric that only matters in a 120fps shooter game, maybe it will sort of matter in Prime 4. You appear too autistic and probably pedophilic to understand the concept of comfort or uniqueness so I will no longer attempt to explain these concepts to you.
forgot pic. This, is comfort.
>>722393412how will that make them the money they already make?
>>722397953>everybody doesnt get the switch 1 and 2 until one day they actually try itI have a switch, it's a huge piece of shit.>I simply do not notice any input delay on GamecubeBecause you don't play games enough to notice things like a 5f input difference.
>>722397993>playing fighting games against the CPUYou couldn't have exposed yourself as a bigger retard even if you tried to do it on purpose.
>>722393572This is an ESL website.
>>722398058>>722398023You will die never once knowing what the word "comfort" means.
>>722398213I'm not trying to retreat back into my mother's womb, so "comfort" is not what I'm primarily seeking. Games are meant to be won, they aren't meant to be "comfortable". This goes back to the whole ecosystem statement where Nintendo has become a closed off bubble of "comfortable" low quality slop, just like netflix.
>>722393412
>>722393412Nintendo is one of the richest company in japan and the only one debt freeThey dont need your 5 dollars retard
>>722393412literally every retro nintendo game is already available for free on pc. how stupid do you have to be to want to buy them.
>>722393412Shitcube games are terribl. Cubesnoy false flag
>>722393412>NOOOO YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND STEAM IS EVIL I NEED TO PHYSICALLY BUY MY DRM-STICK I CAN'T BE RESPONSIBLE FOR ABSTRACT DATA IT'S TOO COMPLEX
>>722393840Based./thread
>>722397681>Handhelds are for lazy people who don't really like video games and want to passively play casual ones in bed as a distraction.You can like actual videogames and enjoy putting effort in, yet still want to be lazy and play them in bed as a distraction as well.The two are not mutually exclusive.
>>722398381Sounds like you suffer from self loathing.Ashamed that you still play videogames so you try to rationalize it by playing to win instead of enjoying the experience.
>>722398381You're a shallow, shell of a man. A literal NPC. Any actual human can understand and gain multiple methods of enjoyment.I enjoy challenging and complex games that I have to learn and actively engage in (not "winning" because I'm not a retarded faggot), and I can also enjoy the simple comforts of life.
>>722398381i can somewhat empathise with this mentality because part of what I enjoy about gaming vs. just watching tv or something is that I like to think maybe it trains my coordination/mental acuity which may have some crossover into sports/other hobbies but I feel like you're taking it way too far man. do you even have other hobbies?
>>722393412But I like having no qualms with pirating Nintendo's shit.Thanks Nintendo! Keep being greedy so I have no remorse.
>>722393412Just emulate you fucking retard>B-but my moneythey are already rolling in cash they don't care about steam
>>722394416>They're unifying all of Nintendo's history on one platform, the Switch 2.As a tendie that only plays games on Nintendo consoles, and owner of a Switch 2 since launch (and owner not in the poor way, aka the MKW pack, but a real owner of both Switch 2 with a separated physical MKW) I must say that I will never ever play Super Mario Galaxy 1 + 2 without a Wiimote, Nunchuck and sensor bar. I'll always play those masterpieces as originally intended, no matter how much the resolution is increased, the gameplay is 100% decreased without a sensor bar, so stop unifying in a poor way thank you very much.
>>722393572Your post sounds way more ESL than OP’s.
>>722393412Nintendo doesn't want the poor and brown audience. That's what Sony and Valve are for. It's the main reason I buy Nintendo consoles and games, they are not stupid enough to change their tune.
>>722393572>>722393630>>722393710nintendo drones when you suggest wanting to pay to play on PC
>>722393901Why are you acting like this was at stake all along?Do you think this thread was like your personal quest and destiny and if we can't give you a fine answer you will emulate?Shut the fuck up retard.
>>722406972whatever you say, falseflag king.
>>722393412You want Nintendo shit? You buy Nintendo shit.End of story.
>>722393572Fun fact:You're brown.
>>722394219It's a steaming mountain of shit.I don't want to go to shit mountain.>>722394684Nobody is port begging, we already have all the games that matter. OP actually wants to give modern Nintendo money for those old games for some reason, as modern NIntendo didn't treat them like trash and were still capable of actually making good games.
>>722393412Nintendo would become too powerful. Imagine the cash if they put all of their games on Steam, along with their NES / SNES / GAMEBOY libraries for 5-10 dollarinos a piece. May sound steep but you know people would buy them due to convenience.
After buying Tears of the Kingdom and seeing how bad it ran on switch, I just started pirating nintendo games on my PCStraight up a better user experience since I like to sit in calls with friends on discord and sometimes have videos/ runescape on the side.Nintendo's quality has dramatically slipped, their games have this like blurry cheap engine vibe to them. On top of consistently releasing games that feel unfinished or super repetitive, Nintendo just came around to feeling ratty and scammy.I say this as a retarded nintentoddler who owns easily over 100 nintendo games and many generations of nintendo consoles.The standard for videogames has risen in various directions, and I've found that "soulful fun" aspect in indie games.
>>722393412You’re objectively right, Nintendo doesn’t understand that making their old games readily available will bring in more money from old fans and convert new fans. They think that keeping their old games rare and difficult to play somehow makes their brand more valuable. It reminds me of how The Beatles kept their music off streaming services for many years because they thought they were too good and legendary to stoop so low, before finally realizing that’s retarded. Nintendo is a dinosaur company.
>>722408428Absolutely tasteless man.
Nintendo needs its own ecosystem, which is how they sell low-budget games like “Mario Golf Super Rush” for $60. For comparison, Easy Come Easy Golf, which clearly has a bigger budget, more playtesting, more assets, etc., sells for $20, while the new Everybody's Golf, which is a little cruder but has a strong brand, sells for $40.Nintendo controlling its own ecosystem creates the illusion that some games are more valuable than they really are. They are like the Jews at De Beers controlling the global diamond trade to keep prices high.See how Sega can no longer afford this luxury and Sonic Mania is now selling for $5 in the Steam sale. You can say that Mario is a more powerful brand, but in a reality where Nintendo has to put its game in every store to try to pay the bills, you would see Mario games (such as the aforementioned Mario Golf) selling for similar prices.
The mario brothers, whatever happened there?
>>722409657Nintendo makes $5 games at this point
>>722398381lol you are such a fucking faggot
>>722406972i get you, playing with original controllers is always preferred because the games were designed for those. even when emulating, having a controller based on that consoles original design feels a lot better. even nintendo provides this for a lot of titles with their overpriced replica controllers.with the wii in particular, every game made for the wii was made with the motion controls in mind. you're not playing the same game if you're playing it without those controls.
>>722397232NTA but for me the biggest advantage is that Steam syncs saves and lets me manage addition/deletion of my library across multiple devices, especially wrt my Deck. I only use the Steam version of Retroarch these days for that reason, unless it's absolutely impossible to play a game on a Retroarch core. This was also why the Steam release of Dolphin was something I was interested in. But even then, I have to manually manage the synchronization of roms/ISOs/etc across multiple devices.Emulation would still need to exist. Nobody believes every classic title from that era would get a port. But I'd still buy the ports that did exist for a few bucks before I'd emulate them. I could emulate Psychonauts, Jet Set Radio, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, and loads of other games that I own on Steam right now, but I prefer the Steam versions just because managing them on Steam is easier for me.
>>722393412>daily PCbeggar thread>bot-like postsI thought PC could emulate every single Nintendo game, what's the problem now?
>>722393412People who actually want to play Nintendo games on a PC already do via emulators. There's nothing to be gained by putting their games on Steam, but plenty to be lost in console sales.
>>722412362/thread. Nintendo isn't retarded to officially cuck out their catalogue to other platforms, unlike the other two has-beens.
>>722409272>and I've found that "soulful fun" aspect in indie games.This. Indies are the "new Nintendo". They're where all the soul is. Modern Nintendo is a soulless husk of its former self that only exists now to milk its past and fleece people blinded by the brand, who are incapable of recognizing whether a game is any good or not.
>>722412362people waited 10 years to play bloodborne despite being self proclaimed giant soulsfags, most pc owners will simply not buy any console regardless of what's released on it. they will wait until it's either ported or an emulator comes out, the only way to get their money is to port games. sony and microsoft both figured this out.
>>722408203Why do you PC faggots spend all day talking shit about consoles while simultaneously begging for their games? Fucking third-worlders.
>>722409657>Nintendo controlling its own ecosystem creates the illusion that some games are more valuable than they really are.Exactly. Nintendo clings to it because they know full well the exclusivity factor is huge in how people perceive the game and how strongly they latch on to the "privilege" of being able to purchase it. An exclusivity gets more diehard people that will champion the most mediocre game simply because they have access to it and others don't.
nitnendo is not for poorfag turd wordlers who use Steam
>>722412876Literally nobody is begging for the games. We have their games. OP merely wants to give modern Nintendo money for that, for some baffling reason, when modern Nintendo is a cancerous shell of its former self that doesn't deserve a dime. But ask yourself why what OP wants offends you.
>>722393412Nintendo would make a killing on Steam AND make a dent in piracy if they priced everything appropriately. But unfortunately, their business model revolves around being Jewish with retro games and bitching when people refuse to put up with it.
>>722393710Just dolphin and rom the GCN? why do you want to pay for worse demakes. I have everything from the GCN that I want on my steam deck.>>722394416Surely you must be shit posting. The games were far less watered down slop when he was around.
>>722393959>smart>putting nintendo's own games on steamNintendo are currently stupidly profitable because they don't do short term gains shit like this and instead play a much longer game, putting their games on Steam which makes zero sense on any level would not only devalue their hardware business which itself is part of their profits but would also devalue their software business, Nintendo have the legacy library to actually topple Steam why would they put their games on a platform where they instantly lose 30% of the profits because of it?The problem is that people like you don't think like a business at all and instead just think like a Steam fanboy who only want to play Nintendo games on Steam, well too bad, Nintendo understands this marketplace far better than you.
>>722413649>Nintendo have the legacy library to actually topple SteamlollmaoNo they don't.Nintendo's console model is insanely risky. It relies entirely on one hardware pillar that if flounders, tanks everything else they do with it. They are not in a good position at all, longterm or otherwise, especially as consoles continue to decline from the high 15 years ago and PC continues to rise, despite all the marketing and retail presence that get dumped into trying to elevate them, while Steam itself has zero retail presence beyond some gift cards and hasn't had a single ad I don't think ever and just relies on being a good service and the word of mouth it gets from that.
>>722413649Not him. I'm sure the corpo drones at Nintendo have run the numbers, and that's why we have services like NSO instead of VC (NSO was a way to "sell" their retro catalog to consumers who otherwise would never have purchased or would have purchased fewer games). BUT, there is a large audience who aren't interested in buying into the Nintendo ecosystem who would otherwise be interested in buying games from Nintendo's catalog for the right price. Piracy has been enabled by ease of use, but the real driver for piracy is a lack of availability. And only Nintendo can address that issue.I think the company is needlessly stubborn, but like everyone else ITT, I'm making a lot of assumptions about the financial side.
>>722413649>Nintendo are currently stupidly profitable because they don't do short term gains shit like thisThey're currently stupidly profitable because they're fucking the hell out of their consumers.Nintendo sold 100,000,000 more units of hardware and 500,000,000 more units of software than the Switch era 15 years ago. Yet the Switch era is Nintendo's most profitable and with the Switch 2, Nintendo went full mask off with the greed. They are prioritizing short term gains by pricing a ton of people out of what used to be the budget option. It was Iwata who believed in prioritizing the long term. The current suits clearly do not think the same way.
>>722413649I think Steam is just an example, and Nintendo always keeps their games at max price, so their software would retain value. Nobody cares if their HW loses comparative value, especially with how many people would buy games. The PC gaming demographic was 900M, like, a decade ago.
>>722415719>Nintendo always keeps their games at max price, so their software would retain valueI still question whether or not this is helpful to their bottom line. You're simply never going to attract players from other platforms when you price a (relatively) simple port of Super Mario Galaxy at $40. Most people who are informed are not going to be alright with that.
>>722413649>Nintendo have the legacy library to actually topple SteamIf Nintendo were to make their own launcher it would just be another app everybody would hate and wouldn't want to use, like EA's or Ubisoft's. Especially because Nintendo is guaranteed to load it to the nines with the kind of cancer that all PC users absolutely abhor to lock down their control over it and the games. You severely underestimate the PC market.
>>722393572>Emm excuse me sir, your english isn't as good as i would hope so, you may need to study before posting on our respectable board, hehehe this will show him, now i will wait to claim my reddit gold
Wonderful 101 coming to Steam was already pretty trippy because it basically is a Nintendo game in a lot of ways, it just wasn't popular enough for Nintendo to care to hold onto it.
>>722393412>PC chads>paying
>>722416283Paying for convenience, yes
>>722416081>Most people who are informed are not going to be alright with that.You mean because they can emulate? People aren't going to want to emulate (pirates roms, that they didn't back up themselves for play) if a legal alternative exists.Also, almost everybody has a PC, and many Nintendo games are easy on the HW. The numbers are simply too great to ignore. A game getting 900k concurrent simply doesn't happen on Nintendo consoles.They should actually develop competitive games though. Apex, Fortnite, and other PvP games are the most popular and played (session length and frequency) games.
>>722393412>Nintendo ports their old shit to Steam>Community section is filled to the brim with "just emulate xD"Nintendo makes infinitely more money by making their software exclusive to their hardware, even if the software is 20+ years old.Even under the massive hypothetical of porting their games to PC, they likely wouldn't support Steam.
>>722394416>muh salesThe only new IP's during Switch was Princess Peach: Showtime. The games were mainly sequels or ports of Wii U games. Their creative output is dwindling while they are hunting slaes.
>>722393572fpbp>>722393710>>722396449>>722398094>>722407259>>722408203>>722408827>>722416210>t. seething thirdies
>>722393412Nintendo is very restrictive of their IP and don't care about adding friction to the ability to enjoy it because they see it as a privilege for you to do so. The absolute best case scenario you could expect is a cloud streaming service for Nintendo games on any platform. The CEO would commit sudoku before he even considers putting even one NES game on any non Nintendo platform.
>>722416665>You mean because they can emulate?That's a factor, but I'm really just pointing out how retarded it is to price a simple port of a ~20 year old game for $40. You won't find a precedent for that on any other platform, so it's a move that only works on the uninformed.
>>722415020DS and Wii sales were at a lower margin per unit and Nintendo sold more budget third party and pack in titles compared to Switch which sold significantly more first party titles, then you add in digital, that alone makes up the gap but the market has changed a lot, Nintendo get a cut from mtx which is basically all third party as is and they have their online sub, Nintendo are making more money using the same business model, not lowering the cost of games is the only real difference and this is as a reaction to Steam and Steam sales which has degraded the value of games significantly.>>722416205Nintendo have far more pull than EA and Ubisoft combined, they'd do significantly better than either, people value Nintendo enough now to actually pay hundreds of dollars to access their current platform, a free platform on PC would easily do well.>You severely underestimate the PC marketNo I don't, almost all of the PC market are bootlickers that have no idea how any of this shit works, even when given the option of no platform Steam users still demand games use Steam, I don't think the market has any harder bootlickers than Steam users.
>>722416205People don't like other distributors as much as Ninty, but really, they don't even have to have a launcher. They can sell from their website.
>>722416725I don't know why anyone would think Nintendo would just give up 30% of their profits and just put their games on Steam, they already have their own digital distribution platform on their own hardware, it's not like they lack the infrastructure or even the technical knowhow, and they have a large install base as is on the Switch/2.
>>722417349>Nintendo are making more money using the same business modelYou just listed a bunch of reasons how it's not the same business model. They're making more money simply by charging their consumers more for the same things or for charging for things that used to be free.None of that is a reaction to Steam, that's all pure greed going off the assumption that their audience will just shell out anyway. We'll see how far that gets them with the Switch 2.
>>722393412I used to be a console purist with Nintendo since I was of the mind their brand was too big to expand like that but considering the fuckass decisions the ricekikes have made (assuming the pricing blunders come from Japan and not USA) I'm finding myself agreeing with PCtards. Or like their own Nintendo version of Steam where they sell their old games to PC gamers
>>722417548Not cutting the value of games into shreds in that race to the bottom that everyone else has been had on for has been a reaction to Steam, Nintendo's business model has always been make money on hardware and software, which is still at the core of their business model.>We'll see how far that gets them with the Switch 2.Fastest selling console of all time is meaningless?
>>722417349People want their games on Steam because Steam isn't just a simple launcher designed to hoover up your data and lock you down into a shitty ecosystem. It actually provides convenience and services, both for developers and players. Nintendo's launcher would be ENTIRELY self-serving and people would continue to emulate rather than use it. It might do maybe about as well as Epic does.
>>722417789>Fastest selling console of all time is meaningless?When you flood the market with unprecedented supply at launch and everyone who wants one gets one, yes, that's meaningless. It makes for a good marketing bullet point, nothing more. Sustainability is what matters and right it's not looking very sustainable.
>>722417349>even when given the option of no platform Steam users still demand games use SteamI wouldn't say I "demand" that games use Steam, but I typically buy games through Steam due to it being cheaper. GOG is cool, but it's less common to find keys for those games in my experience.
>>722417349>I don't think the market has any harder bootlickers than Steam users.People just want all their games in one place. A lot of old guard PC users had to deal with needing to download new storefronts just to play a single game and it was annoying. Not even Microsoft can get people to use the Windows Store to buy games and they own the damn platform.
>>722417832>steam isn't self servingSteam bootlickers are just the worst. Epic never had the same kind of userbase that Nintendo has, in fact nobody does, if people are willing to pay to get into Mario's fun filled world of wonder they will be willing to install access to it for free, but like I said already Nintendo already have an online client as if their one for PC would just arbitrarily cut out all the features they provide on their console.
>>722416725>Nintendo makes infinitely more money by making their software exclusive to their hardwareLOL.LMAO.>>722417324As long as it isn't tied to machine HW, I don't think people would care. $40 or whatever for dozens, if not hundreds, of hours is up with the top of entertainment industries for $/hr.
>>722393412Why would you want to pay for something that's free OP, are you retarded?
>>722417924Just the answer I expected, what you fail to realize is that Nintendo are setting themselves up to have basically the final and only dedicated gaming platform, and they are doing an extremely good job at it.
>>722417789You realize Nintendo used to actually have sales and discounts, right? Like Nintendo sold the entire Metroid Prime trilogy on the VC for $20. The VC that they killed in order to replace it with a paid online rental service that doesn't even offer those games anymore.
>>722418172A dedicated gaming platform is one of the reasons why people don't like consoles anymore and it's a dying model. They're limiting, gimped, DRM addled prison boxes that serve themselves, not the consumer.
>>722418054>Epic never had the same kind of userbase that Nintendo has, in fact nobody doesNTA but Epic has Fortnite as an exclusive. You can't really downplay that because Fortnite is one of the biggest games in the world but because it's not on Steam, Fortnite ends up being bigger on consoles than PC.
>>722418210I'm well aware, but Steam did this to an extent that seemed insane, recent games getting deep discounts to wring every possible sale and constant heavily adertised sales lead to the devaluing of games and Nintendo decided that they wanted none of that so games are sparingly discounted. The real kicker is how effective this has been for Nintendo with multiple IP seeing the best sales of their life, both sustained and peak.
>>722418172>the final and only dedicated gaming platformWhat about sales trends makes you think that's reasonable? PlayStation is making vastly more money.
>>722418054>Epic never had the same kind of userbase that Nintendo hasEpic has a way bigger userbase than Nintendo has off Fortnite alone. Steam has way more active users in a month than Nintendo gets in an entire year. Nintendo bootlickers live in a bubble. Nintendo is not some massive player anymore, only their brand carries weight. The big three are all but dead. The game has changed and you've been left behind because Nintendo is always a decade behind.
>>722418419>The real kicker is how effective this has been for Nintendo with multiple IP seeing the best sales of their life, both sustained and peak.tbf this is the first gen where there aren't 2 separate platforms. the console owners and handheld owners are now buying the same games. so sales aren't split between multiple games, there's also less games to buy in the switch gen because of this compared to the previous gens where nintendo had handheld and console games coming out.
>>722418128>$40 or whatever for dozens, if not hundreds, of hours is up with the top of entertainment industries for $/hr.That's an argument, but I think sends a bad message to the industry. Super Mario Galaxy made back all of the costs of development (and then some). It was even sold at a heavy discount on Wii towards the end of the system's life. It's a bit silly to sell something like that for a higher price point after a decade+. I want these games to be available for people who missed out, and I want the industry to focus efforts on releasing new games that are actually worth the price of admission. As is, it feels like new games are half-assed / misguided and old games are arbitrarily expensive (when it comes to Nintendo, at least).
>>722418330Other dedicated gaming platforms are dying because they've lost the simplicity that was an advantage of PC, Steam is as simple as Xbox or Playstation, Switch is even easier, Nintendo's maintaining of the plug and play aspect of consoles is a big part of their continued value and success.>>722418394Fortnite doesn't have the kind of long term appeal of a Nintendo IP, you put Pokemon games even legacy on a dedicated PC platform that's 10s of millions of users just on those games alone, Pokemon is literally the most valuable and successful IP in the world, Fortnite is already in it's twilight.
>>722418419You also realize Valve isn't just putting everyone's games on sale themselves, yeah? Valve has no say over what a publisher or dev decides to sell their game at. It's entirely up to them. They charge more on Nintendo because they know that Nintendo fans are used to paying more no matter how mediocre the game is. If I was selling a game on a platform where people were still shelling out a premium price for the absolute state of Pokemon, I would never put my game on sale either. Plus there's way less of a selection to compete with.
>>722418128>LOL.>LMAO.They 100% do, they wouldn't be able to make bank on drag and drop ports anymore if their games were on PC officially
>>722418568Nintendo are about 10 mil behind Steam in terms of regular users, so no.
>>722418767>Fortnite doesn't have the kind of long term appeal of a Nintendo IPIt's been one of the biggest games in the world for 8 years, it's the World of Warcraft of this generation. Zoomers and younger Millenials will be playing Fortnite Classic private servers in 10 years. You're understanding of gaming seems tenuous at best.
>>722418449Nintendo are making more money than Sony, in terms of end profits, so that's not really true, and Playstation sales have slowed down, whereas Nintendo sales have sped up, it's been obvious since the Switch launched that Nintendo were moving into an end game position, Switch 2 is just solidifying this.
>>722418937>You'reYour*, you may now call me a retard.
>>722418756>As is, it feels like new games are half-assed / misguidedEvery Nintendo franchise was better on Switch than on the fucking Wii.
>>722393572Based. I fucking hate nonwhites.
>>722418330I’d argue the problem is more that consoles have cut too far into PC territory. The appeal before was just playing the game, no bullshit. PS5 is essentially a limited PC. Even with discs you have to download games onto your systems, you have to buy storage or uninstall games if you don’t have enough space, it’s more of a multimedia device that happens to play games. As much as I think Nintendo is greedy, I will admit one advantage is that you can just insert the cartridge and play the game, that’s it.
>>722419029Wow. What a high bar you chose. Interesting that (You) reference the Wii out of nowhere.
>>722418937It only seems that way to someone as young as yourself who has never seen a trend come and go, which is what Fortnite is, it's metrics are already down, it's already bleeding users and it's long term relevance is already dead, it spent it's entire time just copying what was trending instead of setting trends itself and now that's all paying off, call me when Fortnite has the kind of long term relevance that Pokemon has, or even Mario.
>>722418794I'm aware, but Steam set that trend, and it's degraded the value of games heavily, people are more and more likely to just wait for an ultimate edition of a game for a fraction of the price of just the launch version of a game because of these kinds of sales with few exceptions. Third party titles are regularly on discount on Switch, it's Nintendo who sparingly discount their games and have managed to keep game value, it's been an extremely successful strategy.
>>722418860You're think Steam's monthly active user count from nearly 5 years ago is the same as the Switch's annual user count. Which, yes, Steam was 10 million above Nintendo at that time. The gap would be far wider now. And again, monthly vs annual.
>>722393412>making it available toportbeggar
>>722419057>I’d argue the problem is more that consoles have cut too far into PC territory.That's true, and I would also argue it's the opposite. PC is cutting far too hard into console territory.Consoles used to at the least offer convenience and they don't even offer that really anymore. Whereas PC just keeps getting better and better without any limitations.
>>722416272I didn't know that. Was Wonderful 101 a good game?
>>722419029Not even true, by the way. Depending on your prefences, you could easily prefer Zelda's output on the Wii vs the Switch. Other M sucked, but Prime 3 was decent (1 good, original Metroid game for Wii and Switch). Animal Crossing wasn't exactly breaking ground with City Folk, but it lacked a lot of the issues with New Horizons. Mario had a larger output of 3D and 2D games during the Wii's run, and while the spin-offs were in decline, the sports games and (at least) Mario Party 8 were better than comparable games on Switch.At best, the output of the Wii and Switch are almost even in terms of quality and value.
>>722419325The internet and the sheer quantity of games available set that trend. And you say it like it's a bad thing. Like consumers can get games at affordable price is terrible when they should be handing everyone full price all the time and if they don't hand over the full price now the price will only go up in the future. That's fucking cancer and will kill this industry. Think for yourself and not on behalf of some billionaire corporation that's just trying to extract everything they possibly can out of you.
>>722419150Only a boomer is going to make a World of Warcraft comparison, saying Fortnite is going to fall off is like saying Minecraft is going to fall off. It might be a bit less relevant now but tons of people will play it in 20 years the same way WoWfags still play WoW. And it's not like Pokemon didn't peak in relevance during Pokemania and Mario's relevance arguably peaked during The Wizard when he was so big that kids would go see an unrelated movie just to catch a glimpse of Mario 3 gameplay.Those days, Nintendo controlled kids. Every kid loved Nintendo(except for a few Sega fans), it was their life. Now it's Roblox, Minecraft, and Fortnite. The millennial obsessed with Nintendo because it was their childhood is going to be replaced by zoomers still obsessed with Roblox, Minecraft, or Fortnite because it was their childhood.
>>722393572https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyC_2nGU-f8
>>722418419publishers have to agree to let their titles be part of steam sales, and they set the sale amount. Valve can't just arbitrarily sell someone's stuff for cheaper. If a new/recent title is being sold at a 40, 50, or even 75% discount during a steam sale, that's because it's not performing well sales wise and the publisher is trying to bring in any money they can. with digital products the margins are much lower since you don't have to pay for the creation and shipping of the physical media, so a sharp price cut like that can still turn a profit.the same thing happens in physical media too, we've all seen the photos of new AAA games that bombed and had 20-30% discounts slapped on them just a couple months after launch, this is not a new phenomenon, it's just digital sales allow the margins to be wider so the discounts can be larger to try and draw in more buyers.
>>722393412Friendly reminder that nintendo rejected the hybrid console collab with sony
>>722393412I’ve always been annoyed by how pcniggers act like they’re owed console games while simultaneously calling console games shit. You guys know consoles have the superior games yet still act high and mighty. Referring to yourselves as the “pcmasterrace” and acting like you’re all Aryan Gigachad when the majority of pcfags are brown and Chinese is also the apex of irony
>>722393412because you won't be in their ecosystem anymore
>>722418837Why?>>722418947>Nintendo are making more money than SonyThey're objectively not.
>>722421507>consoles have the superior gamesConsole games are absolute trash and the interface of a controller doesn't work for anything good like strategy games. Theres a few old Nintendo games that are worth playing
Why the fuck would you want to rebuy games you own on other hardware + can emulate at a better quality?
