Valve caused the rise of low effort slop games by only promoting 400 games a year.valve was too lazy to manually examine new releases and filter out the low effort garbageand they were too scared to increase the upload fee to filter out thirdies and scammers from shitting up the storeso they just stopped promoting games based on review performance and shifted towards revenuenow the only games that do well organically on steam are streamerbait dopamine slop that get attention on social mediareal games are left in the dust to rot because they didn't have two year advertising periods before releasedevelopers are no longer incentivized to make good games purely for the intrinsic joy of creating good gamesthey are forced to focus on viral advertising strategies, otherwise their games will receive zero support, and the time and money cost won't be justifiable
it's not really a problemgood games get free word of mouth organically
Don't care, not my problem. Put in the leg work yourself to find cool games.
>>722397135>good games get free word of mouth organicallyExcept they don't.
>>722396994Gabe keeps winning/v/ keeps seething
>>722397271Many do.If they don't it's usually because they are very niche or in a crowded genre.
i have found more games through the seasonal demo fests more than anything else. i can't stand the "big" game shows that are just lame and gay trailers, give me a demo or fuck right off.
>>722397359Good goy piggie, good goy steamie!Thanks for my 20th yacht, btw, goy!
>>722397440
>>722397587This. Thank god demos are making a come back
>>722397587Next Fest threads are some of the best threads on /v/.
>>722396994
you don't need more than 400 games a year.
>/v/tard is too low IQ to understand the problemFigures.
gabe is the only good billionaire
just shift the promotion algorithms to prioritize reviews instead of revenueproblem solved
>>722400657That's actually how it used to work. But in 2019 the algorithm got changed to prioritize revenue, and that's how we ended up in the situation we are in today.
>>722397653I would give my every penny to gaben because he and his company benefit me as a consumer the most, and you are retarded for thinking otherwise
>>722400728what a tragic turn of events
>>722396994>Valve caused the rise of low effort slop gamesthey caused the rise of AAA games?
>I would give my every penny to gaben because he and his company benefit me as a consumer the most, and you are retarded for thinking otherwise
What's with the "Valve is actually the REAL evil and started everything that's bad years ago!" narrative that has been running on the site this year?
>tranime retard completely oblivious to the real worldLike pottery
>>722401068megabonk goycattle slop
>>722401371epic hired more shills for a new campaign
>>722399457How many did you finished?
>>722396994Imagine needing a store to tell you what games are good, you truly are a low IQ subhuman, part of the cattle masses. Games are made by people, the quality of the people determine the quality of the games. It is very easy to know who the best developers are for a certain type of game. For example, when it comes to third-person melee combat focusefocused action oriented games, the developers Team Ninja, FromSoftware and Platinum Games are the best, I only buy these type of games from them. No other developer can compete with them, I don't waste my money or time on inferior games made by other developers.Life is good.
>>722401584120another 50 of them were open ended or multiplayer that you can't really finish
>fromdrone thinking his """"opinion"""" matters
>>722401904Excellent taste.
>722402192>722401904Samefag
>>722396994Valve and Steam are popular for a reason, I just wish GOG was #2 instead of EGS.
>>722396994Everyone keeps talking about all these good games that get shafted by algorithms but the truth is they don't exist: you're either a delusional developer that thinks they're better than they actually are or a gamer that has to accept most games are mediocre
>>722403428
>>722401371Timmy is seething because Fortnite is dying.
no installer no buy
>>722401371Literal indian shills, you can figure out it's the same people every time with the way they type their shit out and the shitty grammar.Steam does have it's huge issues but it's still extremely ahead in terms of quality in comparison to the garbage competition, except maybe gog
>>722397271Tell us about the good game that got passed over. >>722403537>There are good games that get are covered up by the flood of bad games>Like... uh it's survivorship bias.
>>722404960peripeteia
>>722405089Shitted and flopped.
disregard timmy threads
>>722396994I know youre too young to remember, but slop games have been around longer than Steam.
>>722405191Hi ericschizo
>>722405460that's not a shitendo game though
>>722405191>it doesn't have a gorillion concurrent players? so it's BADRetard much?
>>722405513Retarded marketer xitter cord tranny kys
>>722405089>It's all Gabe's fault people won't buy our unfinished porn game.No. If a unfinished loli game billing itself as a "immersive sim" is the best you've got, I'm glad there are more games like this you claim are being forgotten. Also it looks like you have somewhere in the region of 10k sales. That's too good for this sort of game.
>>722405604>>722405592>>722405494Schizo samefaggot
>>722405629oh it looks like shodanon bot is posting again lol
>>722405678Schizo cunt
>>722405629>Two people couldn't possibly be averse to playing my porn gameI want this sort of shit to be banned outright man, and this is part of why. You can't even conceive of a world where you're not gooning daily.
>>722405817>You can't even conceive of a world where you're not gooning daily.Tone down the projection, retard
>>722396994>muh licencei will never understand this complaintall digital software is using the same fucking rulesdo retards think that the developers would allow things to be turned into shareware and let you infinitely copy shit if steam didn't transparently spell out that it's illegal?if anything you should be grateful that steam's the one with the keys because of how weak their drm isand if physical was still on pc the restrictions would be much higher to the point where no cd cracks wouldn't even be feasible like it is on console where you have to nuke yourself permanently offline
>>722397653Only 20? He should get 80 more
>>anti-shills: steam sucks steam sucks steam sucks>whats the alternative?>>[objectively worse platform] Na I'm good. Steam won.
>>722396994I hate steam but I hate chinkpic, ea, ubishit, microshite, etc. even more
>>722406308Buy directly from the dev, moron.
>>722406043>I will never understand this complaintYeah, clearly you don't since nothing you said has anything to do with any part of it.>>722396994Letting Steam pick what games you have access to would make the problem worse, not better. They are not valid judges of what's a good game or not, they don't fucking know what you like.
>>722397135There's nothing organic about the 'word of mouth'. If you heard about the game at all, it means the dev invested heavily (and successfully) into marketing.
>>722406542That will work great, assuming you never want any game to sell more than 100 copies. If you want to sell millions you need a platform like Steam.
>>722396994It's not Steam's job to advertise your game for free.Shitty indiefag/gamejourno mentality that was rampant a few years ago>Steam is now full of garbageYeah, they let you buy games. Back when physical was a thing you had entire bins of slop that was on sale for like 5 bucksTo be fair, that's how I got G.A.S.P for the N64. Kinda weird but also fun>>722397135Not always, sometimes too late
>>722407156That's because of retards like you who refuse to buy games if they're not on Steam
>>722405089The one thing I know about it is that it latched onto the SKG movement.
>>722407106the op has gaben looking like le devil with the licence disclaimer next to itthis is an imageboard
>>722396994TOO MUCH FREEDOM AAAAA SAVE THEM FROM THEIR SELVES, FORCE THEM TO GO PUBLIC SHILO GOLDSTEIN
>>722396994tendie cope threadgo buy the reharsed mario remasters
>>722407563That's a good thing, though.
>>722396994Gay Ben also kicked my dog and beat my ass, curse him.
>>722396994Don't give credit to Valve for what Unity and UE's asset stores did for free.
I'm convinced that anything popular nowadays is only that because of ecelebs or established teams with a track record, everything else instantly sinks to the bottom and is forgotten. Doesn't matter if it's an ambitious indie game or easily churned out asset flip, they can only make it big if masses happen to notice it first.
>>722408239This is true.
>>722397665The fuck is this image that people have started copy and pasting over the last month all over the internet?You're not smart for posting something cryptic you massive faggot
>>722402004I kneel
>>722402004Damn bro what's it like to not have a job or any significant social connections?Will you kill yourself within the next 10 years?
>>722408350>im retarded, spoonfeed meNo. You should kill yourself instead for being a subhuman.
>The fuck is this image that people have started copy and pasting over the last month all over the internet?>You're not smart for posting something cryptic you massive faggot
>>722407972It was a smart move. When shilling your game you should exploit any chance to get more eyes on your product. Indies rely on viral marketing, which means they also rely on social media, influencers, memes, fads, and sometimes politics, though picking the right side is a gamble.
>>722407138Retard.
>>722408239This is 100% true. I'm an unnamed indie and most of my works would be lucky to get 200 downloads at most. Small-time youtuber with less than 5000 subscribers features my game, once, and the numbers shoot up to 10,000. It's night-and-day.
>>722408424I have a job, I just don't have any other hobbiesI stream my gameplay in a private d*scord to my friends as soon as I get off work
>>722396994based gaben making faggot op seethe
>>722397359god bless based gaben
>>722409276>>722409339Samefag steamie
>>722401371it's just the usual epig gays niggers and snoygger troons niggering it up as usual, same shit that's been going on for years now, faggot never stops
>>722403072It needs games for that to happen.
>>7224051912025, the year of flops. gamalytic is a great way of finding ammo against tranny shills. If it made less than 10 million, it flopped, 50 games this year did. If you can't beat woke slop like Avowed you failed.
>>722396994i thought EGS stopped paying to shill their dogshit launcher and their awful antivalve campaign
>>722410434It's a lunatic doing it for free.
>>722410304Retard.
>>722406043Piracy isn't a new thing dude, I had a bunch of pirated games going back all the way to DOS games in the 90's.>>722407156How do you think games sold before steam became big or even existed?
>>722411212the difference is piracy is illegal and no one is going to release for profit software as infinitely spreadable sharewareif it wasn't steam issuing licences it would be someone else with way worse terms and more aggressive spyware embedded
>>722411434Those already existed and always got bypassed only affecting the paying customer.
>>722396994Remember how everyone said Epic would only allow real games on EGS and no low effort slop and the next thing that happened was using fucking Hello Neighbor for their main marketing drive and allowing NFT games because Gabe said "NFTs bad"
>>722406542And devs have the time, money and infrastructure to support their own CDN, cloud saves, pushing updates? You clueless faggot.
>>722415562>CDNIf you're talking about multiplayer games, just let the players host it.>cloud savesSoys shit >pushing updatesThis should be up to the user, whether you want to update or not.Sounds like to me you're a zoomer faggot whose brain is completely slopped up. My condolences.
>>722415776CDN is needed to distribute the game brainlet. Do you think that having 1000s of people all over the world download your shit is viable without CDN? That goes for updates too. Those need to be distributed for people to DL.I have a server without CDN and it's not a great experience for users who aren't in the EU, but mine is for personal purposes so I don't give a fuck if burgers or chinese get shit peering.
>>722410013Many AAAs won't give up drm on their games until they're 5+ years old
>>722397135>good games get free word of mouth organically>word of mouthSo social media advertising and marketing.
>10k+ games a year>most of it is literal who slop trash>"not my problem"Nobody here actually cares or plays video games, what's the point in even trying to discuss anything related to them.
>>722401371yes valve should own the whole PC market, whats bad about that
>>722408239digimon sells not because its goodcause peeps are reeeing about pokemondigimon has a bunch of good games since cyberslut but dont give a fuck till pokemon
>>722397271your 2d indie pixel spreadsheet simulator is NOT A GOOD GAME learn to make some graphics. Otherwise i can just go play a board game.
>>722417516because an ethical leader who is content with 2 billion when he could have 20 billion is actually rarer than you think so when gaben is gone it's a 98% chance steam gets wall street jew fucked in the ass like everything else does - they probably already have like 3 different plans for how
>>722415776You didn't address my argument, you just attempted to discredit basic shit customers expect while demonstrating you don't even know what value they have.You are a clueless faggot, consider yourself raped.
>>722405592didn't dev ban some tranny from their discord?