>Pirates have to do a temporary, pain in the ass activation method for $5 (Free activation usually doesnt work or have long ass wait time) that can easily be patched by Denuvo just to pirate their game (Think Netflix and others Family Sharing crackdown)
>>722404451don't care. all shitnuvo games are shit anyway
>>722404451>that can easily be patched by DenuvoNot really. Maybe you mean the devs releasing a game update, which then means you need a new token.But yeah, the whole thing is very third-world. Americans and other poorfags.
>>722404505
>>722404505[IGNORANCE] all [DRM] games are shit anyway
>>722404451I honestly don't believe this is actually uncrackable.
>>722404451>$5Can you even call that piracy? More like getting or renting the game for a deep discount.
>>722404554Just disable automatic updates
>>722404590Uncrackable? No. So incredibly time consuming that no sane person wants to crack it regularly? Yes.
>>722404742Thats just Uncrackable with extra steps
>>722404590Nothing is uncrackable, but it is difficult to crack, difficult enough to delay the crack by a few weeks and make cracking some games just not worth the effort at all which is good enough.
>>722404572Objectively speaking, mention a single game with shitnuvo which is worthwhile to pirateThere isn't kek. At the same time they tried to screw over piracy they stopped making products that pirates would be interested in getting, basically fucking over their main consumers from two sides which means lost revenue overallAnd the funniest part is that, as Gaben pointed out, most people just need good service and a worthwhile experience to never pirate and buy games legally.
>>722404451ReMuvo Software Solutions When?
>>722404898I think your AI chatbot needs some improvement here. Your AI chatbot has been talking about same shit for 5 years staight. Improve it
>>722404451I will never buy or install a game with denuvo
>>722404987I haven't spoken in a thread like this before you tard. Maybe people just don't like retarded services that don't do shit other than screw over actual legal customers
>>722404590It's not actually uncrackable.The problem is you need to learn a very specific skill set to do it, and most people with that skill set are going to use it to make money, not waste their time cracking games so other people can get them for free.
>>722405061>>722405052AI, just look at b4k archive. Improve it
>>722404451They unironically won, because they either jailed or kept on a payroll anyone who would try to crack their system.No one is gonna bother with this shit for free or 'respect', its all about the money these days and i cant blame them
>>722404914Never. Its dead. Denuvo is win
>>722404451>Denuvo gets added to games that nobody even wants to buy anyways>Congrats you just kicked out the pirates who MIGHT have played your game if they enjoyed it>But now you lost em entirely...And are punishing your actual customers as wellJej
>>722404451Denuvo existing at the same time where companies only care about extracting as much money as they can makes me sad.
>>722405410Sonic Kart game is fun
>>722405410>n-no i didnt want to play that new digimon game everyone is talking about anywayKek, sure
>>722405517Nobody buys shitty Mario Kart clones retard. Vast majority of people stick to DS, Wii, 7 or 8. World was a failure and so will this Sonic copycat be
>>722404451>be Austrian>the only above average functional software to speak of from my country is DenuvoIt's a real struggle
>>722405432Was there a time when companies didn't care about extracting as much money as they can?
>>722405565>NobodyLol>>722388695>>722388695
>>722404451I 100% think this is a problem that it will resolve itselfDenuvo doesn't have competition, which means that they are going to ask for more and more from the companiesUntil at some point it will be so pricey that they'll do a "we'll protect your game for a year and then it's either update your game without or protection or pay us each month" Which means free games again.I fucking love capitalism
>>722405634There was a time when companies knew that longevity in their products and quality of products keeps customers talking about the goodness of said products, sharing the company with their friends and familyBut in the current economic crisis, it's easier to make cheap slop because nobody has money to afford quality products that last 20 years over slop products that last 2 months
>>722405539>If I try bullying, maybe they'll buy my game?Still not buying it, I don't even want to pirate it lmao.
>>722404451Support DRM-free!
>>722405634Pretty much all of gaming before 2016? Valve has been selling their older games for 5-10 bucks when not on sale and games used to cost $30 at their highest. But then they came up with bullshit "muh GRAPHICCS means MORE EXPENSES" and now you get Nintendo selling you a plastic mold of their worst console for $100 without even giving you the games or new "AAA" games costing fucking $90
>>722405724>no games, but DRM free!>also, enjoy third world download speeds
>>722405117Another problem are corrupt politicians owned by copyright lobbyists and the shitty laws they've enacted in pretty much any (at least even remotely 1st world) country. Even if you wanted to start cracking Denuvo for free, well, you can't even take any credit for it under your real identity, and if you didn't care about that either, well you're still going to get sued into oblivion if you ever fuck up in some way which causes your identity to leak.If you just wanted to dump something now and then to the Internet it probably isn't that hard to avoid leaving tracks but what if you wanted to set up an actual project and community for this.
>>722404451Denuvo is cancer you actually have to pay for, yet, gain nothing from, except a performance drop, installation restrictions and SSD wear.
>>722404861>a few weeksMore like a few years LMAO
>>722405539no, i couldn't care lessi know nothing about digimons outside that they have some ass weird evolutions, can't name single one of them
>>722405670that's literally what they're doing already, which is why Denuvo generally gets removed when the upkeep cost isn't worth it anymoreThis is on top of the fact it's only present in a tiny minority of games in the first place, like legit less than 1%, so i've never really unerstood the doomer attitude of the average retarded pirate, it's a complete nothingburger
>>722405643>4.4k playersI kneel...The only two games with denuvo worth playing are Hello Kitty Island Adventure if you're a woman (but you can emulate the switch version) and Digimon
>>722405834GOG just got Clair Obscur. Download speeds can suck depending on where you are, admittedly.Just use both Steam and GOG.Also, are you a Zoom-Platform user? They tend to have a grudge against GOG.
>>722406118Every japs company except square enix never removing Denuvo. Even Capcom has barely remove it now. RE4R still has it
>>722405670Maybe those free/$5 "pirate rental" activations might eventually also drive them to start restricting activations more which will piss off buyers and cause backlash.
>>722406165Why not just use Steam? If you play games, having something like Steamworks shouldn't be an issue. As far as Denuvo and the like, GOG won't have it, so there's no win there. Also>Clair ObscurI don't support the Chinese.
>>722405986Must be suck born in 2010 eh ?Back in the day I got exited when my Agumon evolved into Wargreymon or even Metalgreymon
>>722406274nigga, I was born in 80seriously, name one game that is worth buying that have denuvo
>>722406335Lol youre not. I was born in 1994. And your behavior is obviously from 2005 to 2010
>>722404614It's the principle of the thing. If you give in and buy the game legitimately, you are admitting weakness, and if you ever admit weakness, you deserve to be torn to shreds. Don't back down, double down. Double down until it kills you. Do whatever it takes to preserve your precious ego.
>>722406395lmaoname one game with denuvo that is worth buying you shit eater
>>722406438Cringe
>>722406438>paying to pirate gamesYou sound like Steamies schizo illegally pirating his GOG games to share with people.Pirate or buy. Don't try to do both at the same time.
>>722404451>DRM servers arent getting ddosed 24/7Grim
>>722406462That was easy https://store.steampowered.com/app/1761390/Hatsune_Miku_Project_DIVA_Mega_Mix/
>>722406216the exception that confirms the rule yes, not super consequential however, in the grand scheme of things
>>722406258Because competition is good for the consumer, and I like to support the underdog. Why not just use both?
>>722406462NTA, but Borderlands 4.I already know your response.>tranny do not redeem slop safe horny preet shill SBI cattle buy an ad>playing new games>ESL humiliation ritual dilate you're brown
>>722406335re4
>>722406438Yeah this is a part of it for me at least. I feel bad pirating games which have no DRM but much less so when pirating games with this "uncrackable" DRM using free activation services. It's actually exhilarating to see these supposedly not playable for free games launch for the first time. I love it even if the game turns out to be utter shit.
>>722406490it was a thing before steam tho, it still is in some shitholes without proper infrastructure or with draconian copyright laws(like germany)you go to shady guy and buy cd/dvd with pirated games/movies/etcit usually used to cost a fraction of OG thingSteam sales and internet piracy really massacred that sort of business but it slowly coming back>>722406515>unironic weeb shitboy, you have shit taste, my condolences
>>722406559Because>GOG is slow>GOG has no games>GOG has a shitty launcher that appears to max out at less than 1gbit on my connection>offline installers are shit>offline installers are broken up into 4GB chunks>downloading the offline installers maxes out at around 64mbit on my connectionGOG sucks, and there's no reason to "embrace competition" when it sucks. I don't drink Pepsi to encourage competition for Coke, because Pepsi sucks.Every store outside of Steam is bad, and buying games from them won't change it.
>>722404451>dejewvo shill threadeveryone hates you faggots. not a single person on earth has a single positive thing to say about you
>>722405517Didn't that flop horrendously?
>>722406578I only beat 1, it was nice but under cooked2 was meh at best and I couldn't stomach ''humor'' so I dropped whole serie>>722406618I still have og RE4 somewhere
>>722406648>complaining about anime on anime websiteLmao stay mad
>>722406515>trannime fetish crap>>722406578>literal millenial redditard bullshit which even fucking faggots who loved the first two games said went fucking horrible with the third>>722406618>game which you can just play with an emulator and is just the same shit but with better graphicsGrim that this is how bad gaming has gotten. There isn't a single good game with jewnuvo which is even mediocre, they're all bad or just old games with new graphics which nobody but 3yos care about
>>722406656>drm company claiming drm-free games are a bad thingbut of course
>>722404451>>Pirates have to do a temporary, pain in the ass activation method for $5QRD on this?
>>722406762AI bot response
>>722406754I am not, its just I asked for a game, not for some weeb wankfest
>>722406751og is good but the remake is legit, great dlc that actually add something too and mods of course
>>722406765>can't read because text is in American>just posts stupid shitDRM free games are fine, but the store needs to not suck. The store needs to have games.>it doesn't need games if it doesn't have DRM, chuddie :3
>>722406216>buying Crapcom games post-Chun Li event
>>722406807sounds good, but last time when I was played re was like few years ago so...
>>722406618>>722406618>DEmake 4
>>722406801Rhythm game is definitely a video game.But since you hate Anime on anime website that much you wouldnt get it. Most Good game in the last 5 years is Anime or Japanese games
>>722406656Tbf even buying in Steam is retarded. Steam is definitely the best of the online stores but they're still a service where you don't own your games and will lose access to them eventuallyJust pirate everything and keep either physical or private digital copies which you can never lose. Download workshop addons with SteamCMD or from the workshop folder too
>>722406881then give some examples
Don't care, I'll keep renting denuvo gamesReminder that devs directly lose money when you use activation methods. Go wild
>>722406956>devs directly lose moneyFalse, devs get paid before game release. They aren't paid based on game sales and never have beenAlso devs who make games for just money are sovlless faggots. Actual artists make art because they want to express themselves regardless of if it sells. Look at Valve making games and not giving a shit about pirates because they're proud of people playing their craft and enjoying it
>>7224069141, Steam works and doesn't seem to be going away in the forseeable future. If it does go down in my lifetime, there will be bigger problems than my vidya.B, I like having legit, up to date copies of my games available at a moment's notice.Third, I also play multiplayer games, so pirating most of those is out of the question.And last, some games are impossible to pirate (OP shit doesn't count).
>>722407063FineCorporations directly lose money when you use activation methods. Happy now?
>>722406956>Reminder that devs directly lose money when you use activation methods
>>722406938Japanese games ? Like literally almost everything dude.
>>722404451>that can easily be patched by Denuvojust get the version of the game from before the patch. are you brown?
>>722407146With corrupt corpos like Nintendo losing money? Yeah, wish they lost enough money to the point where they had to go back to being consumer friendly
>>722407169so you are retard with no taste thanks for wasting my time
>>722407173Hes mean the Sharing method can easily be fixed. Two examples is activation key is tied by your hardware IDs, And Reducing the activation limit from 5 Times to 1 time per 24 hours
why is /v/ the only board that goes to bat for shit like denuvo
>>722407183Shitendo is too big to die thanks to their loyal metally ill cultist fanbaseAlso, we're talking about Denuvo here, which is something that Nintendo doesn't do yet because they're stuck 20 years in the past. Use denuvo activation methods on any of SEGA's games since they actually make good shit but they also deserve to lose money at your expense
>>722406914You can make forever backup copies of games you buy from Steam unless they have additional DRM such as Denuvo. It's trivial to "crack" Steam API "DRM" (download open source Steam API emulator and set it up, very easy) and sometimes you don't even need to do that, the game just works without Steam. I wish they'd advertise which games are DRM free in this way like they tell you if a game has 3rd party DRM on the store page.
>>722407063>False, devs get paid before game release.if there's no game to be made they won't get hired again>They aren't paid based on game sales and never have beenthey get paid bonuses based on game performance (reviews, sales, etc.). also, since game content trickles are so common, the game flopping puts devs' livelihoods at riskoptions are a frequent means of compensation, so if the game sells poorly, they'll lose money
>>722407257Enjoy your Star Wars game and that new Space Game (FEATURING CHINESE LESBIAN BALD GIRLBOSS) by naughtydogs, dudebro
>>722407289There's a few people who shit up any thread that has to do with a game they can't pirate and play, or hardware better than theirs.Browns as far as the eye can see.
>>722407269>activation key is tied by your hardware IDsIsn't that worse than SecuroROM? Might as well not release it on PC at that point.
>>722406118So far not only have companies dropped it, but more picked up denuvo. Bamco is back on denuvo train for good, their last few releases all had denuvo. You're coping anon
>>722406656Well clearly I'm not going to change your mind. But I still think they're worth promoting and will occasionally do so.Btw, the point of the installers being 4 GB chunks is so you can burn them to DVD if you want.By the way, if it came down to EGS or GOG, which would you choose?
>>722407289Tendies who hate all piracy probably.
>>722407398My point is Denuvo can close this loophole sooner or later, killing the piracy for good. Netflix already able to do this.
>>722407413Quitting gaming.
>>722407302Any company using jewnuvo deserves to lose money. Nintendo is a company which doesn't use jewnuvo but also deserves to lose money>>722407329>if there's no game to be made they won't get hired againboohoo, make a game that appeals to consumers then. Or get a new career>the game flopping puts devs' livelihoods at riskArt being commercialized was a mistakeI still do not empathize with any of this you retard
>>722407335Stellar Blade PC has Denuvo. Just saying.
>>722407465
>>722404451Don't all Atlus games use it?
>>722407516Most companies use it. Only Indies dont use it
>>722407406Nightrein doesn't have the cancer known as Denuvo.
Legitimately, what is the benefit of Denuvo? How do I, as a customer, benefit from the inclusion of this middleware that restricts what I'm allowed to do with my purchase?
>>722407461But reducing activation limits too much will cause issues for people who actually bought the game and may lead to backlash. I actually hope they free activations get popular enough that they'll do this. I want to laugh.
>>722407461Netflix doesn't do jackshit against piracy. Pirate sites have way more movies than any streaming would ever have.
>>722407565Its started from Super Robot Taisen game onwardsXillia Remaster even has Denuvo
>>722407565Their last 3 releases srw, sonic racing and digimon all have it. Im sorry anon, but the joyride is over
>>722407578How does it restrict use of what you legally purchased?
>>722407578You dont. Theres no upside for you as a consumer, unless you enjoy seeing poorfags seethe, but even then its still at your expense.
>>722407614Those aren't real games you are just coming up with randomly generated names.
>>722407678You completely missed the point
>>722407578For you, there's absolutely no benefit. For the game publishers, maybe, MAYBE they'll get some sales from retards who have money but no self control they wouldn't get otherwise. Whether it's more sales than they lose by putting Denuvo in their games, I dunno. Could be. Also a lot of people will simply not the play the game if they can't pirate it.
>>722407584They not gonna give a shit. Just watch. Let us all laugh and cope when they actually do this
Oh boooyy i cant pirate the 30fps Borderlands masterpiece with it immersive storytelling and diversity characters. Oh boyyy i cant pirate Red Dead we have to be a better cowboy visual novel. Ohh boyy i cant pirate GTA latino we wuz gangsta and shit game where i can warp like a true black skin man stealing shit and gang shit senpai. Majority of "AAA" is not worth pirating at least for my taste. Some are worth it but hey its not like i will cry about it when i have tons of other games to play. Denuvo is literally useless. Its not like this games sold more than AAA without it. BG3 probably sold more than the AAA denuvos despite of people also pirating it. With so many games releasing literally almost daily denuvo is useless. The only way to have impact is if majority of released games use it and thats not happening.
>>722407636Being able to modify the game without needing the company's permission.Being able to play the game permanently offline without ever once needing to verify it with some server somewhere. Not having a potential killswitch that can stop me from playing the game at any time
>>722407335>a shit eater assume other people also eat shitboy, you are pathetic
I usually pirate my denuvo games on the ps4 or ps5. Recently pirated Wukong on the 5, runs great.
>>722407760People mod Denuvo games. Are you high?The rest is just poorfag cope.
>>722407790Westerncrap is wokecrap. There are no exceptions. Their media is poisoned by Political correctness garbage. The only cure is Putin to win the war
>>722407850They're only allowed to mod the game if the developer allows them. And they're still shackled by the dev's massive list of rules.
>>722407463So be it.
>>722407850no its not a cope. Literally all the shitty and meh at best AAA have DENUVO. With some exceptions ofc. The cuck devs put DENUVO because they know they game is shit and try to squeeze sales with it. The good AAA don't care about it because they know despite piracy they will sell well and make a bank. Witcher BG3 etc... So DENUVO is more like pg rating type of thing. if game has it..... dont expect much from it
>>722405724Fun fact: it looks like Silent Hill f is coming to GOG soon. Interesting that Konami didn't want to bother with Denuvo for it.https://x.com/GOGcom/status/1974114779624321368
>>722408307
>>722408307>>722408323Lol
>be playing Super Smash Brothers Brawl>enjoy modding it>also enjoy tinkering with the files, and extracting all the hidden goodies in the files (like all the roms of other games they put in like Super Metroid and Starfox)>this would be completely impossible if the game had denuvoWhy should I support denuvo?
imagine paying for a pirated copy. I'd rather just not play.t. turd wordler
>>722407887oh, so you are not only have shit taste but also are retarded in geopoliticsnot a big surprise
>>722408510name 5 good AAA DENUVOs
>>722407720>the customer is our bitch. you won't do shitby antagonizing customers all you achieve is turning them off
>>722407845>pirate on ps5Yeah right. admittedly I've not followed the hack scene so maybe you actually can and if you buy physical second hand + resell it later yeah you can probably play games for almost free if not free
>>722405517This is the poorfag cope thread, don't reply earnestly
>>722408816The top 5 games you hate the most
>>722405539I'll just watch a gameplay like any /v/ anon would do.
>>722407887>>722408307The PC version of Stellar Blade has Denuvo tho. Wasn't it supposed to be the ultimate anti-woke game?
>>722409057>tranime AND a goonerDenuvo isn't sending their best.
>>722405724Isn't Gog losing money due to piracy?
>>722405903How does denuvo cause SSD wear?
>>722404451The guys at Denuvo are so clueless that they spend money on viral marketing companies to come and post crap here, don't ask me why.The proof is that the "journalistic" articles that appear here and there, but are actually Denuvo propaganda, use the same fucking terms that the shills who post here use.
>>722409169Pretty sure they're losing money because they dont have new releases at launch date. i personally dont buy from them anymore because they've gonna out of their way to promote faggots and woman
>>722409280Every major platform promotes faggots and women. You can't escape it
>>722407720Reducing activation limits is going to be funny to watch regardless of whether it results in actual backlash against Denuvo or the docile consoomer retards just taking it in the ass and asking for more.
>>722409117anti-woke. i dont care about political 60IQcuckery, Stellar is a mid gooner meme game. pol tards pretend they like it because majority bout lef and right are turbo virgins
>>722404451huh? You can just do offline activation yourself, are people really paying Indians $5 to do it for them?
>>722404451What's funny is that thanks to Denuvo the devs are actually losing money to piracy now. Those $5 aren't going to the developer's pocket. Before that you could argue that a person downloading a game for free would have never paid for it any amount of money, thus there's no loss of potential profit. Now we have people who are willing to pay, albeit a small amount, but the devs are getting none of it. It's fucking hilarious.
>>722409652Someone somewhere needs to buy copies of the game (albeit at turd worlder prices) to make activations happen. So they're getting SOME money from these $0-$5 activations but whether it's enough to cover what Denuvo charges per activation (above a certain limit included in the base price) I dunno.
I'll never understand paying to pirate.
>>722407406coping about what ? my backlog grow faster than I can finish games, all the best games of this year don't even have DenuvoIt's a nothingburger like I said, it's too small to matter, maybe we can have that convo again in 20 years
>Company pays for Denuvo on PC>Has a switch port>Emulate switch versionWhy do they even bother?I guess with the switch 2 that's going away, but it was years of many companies making this retarded blunder.
>>722407627
>>722409961Imagine cucking out to play the inferior version equivalent to PC's Ultra Low settings
>PC gaming basically dead and on life support in the 00's>Steam comes along, great sales, cheap game prices, cheap hardware price>Gets a revival in the 10's>Piracy goes down because why even bother when you get your games for 7 bucks on Steam>In the meantime, when many are moving back to PC, they're working on enforce Denuvo>Now prices are higher than ever, aligned with console prices when PC games were always cheaper>Pirate groups are dead, so you're fed breadcrumbs with games released years ago that are still not pirateableI like how we were all tricked. Not that we weren't warned by many people.This is fucking grim.
>>722409961Denuvo actually developed something which was supposed to prevent Switch games from running in emulators and they became an official Nintendo middleware vendor but it never got used in an actual game afaik. Would have been interesting to see. (also disgusting at the same time, probably funny in some way as well)
>>722410050There are still not enough big games with Denuvo to make a difference. And Indies like Silksong and Hades 2 don't have to worry about this bullshit.
>>722409169Steam DRM doesn't stop pirates, yet Steam is doing fine.If you can find me a source saying GOG is losing money to piracy, I'll check it out.
>>722410050Ok, frog-kun but there are maybe 2 games with Denuvo I would even want to play.Online only garbage with forced updates is bigger problem in my book.
>>722409280Has Steam not had Pride Month sales? I don't like the gay stuff either but it's pretty rare.
>>722410050Same hardware which runs PC games is good for local AI porn generation as well so even with no games at least there's still that.
>>722410219The EU did a study that found out that piracy boosted sales, then they buried it because the lobbyists didn't liked it.I believe that the effect of piracy is variable. Cheap and viral games probably benefit from piracy since they become ubiquitous. But something like Wukong probably sold more thanks to Denuvo since chinks don't have that much disposable income, but aren't poor either, so they are given an incentive to save the money for the game rather than wasting it on gambling or prostitutes.
>>722410050there are billions of old games and indieshonestly i just don't care to care anymore
>>722410050Even the hardware got rugpulled.We were having a renaissance up until the 1000 series and then got hit with the crypto, covid, scapler, AI quadruple whammy and now you can't get a mid range GPU for less than $600 and the other parts are also being jacked the fuck up. Especially motherboards.
>>722410529Wukong was half price in China. That probably helped a lot.
>>722410616Price is probably a way bigger deal than piracy. Journos whined about Silksong being 20 dollars but it seems that boosted the game sales. That's a price point where a lot of people just buy the game without even thinking.
>>722405539you faggots sound just like the appletards>Y-Y-YOU DON'T HAVE AN IPHONE BECAUSE YOU ARE POOR!11! BOOHOOONo, I wouldn't use your shitty products even if you paid me to it.
>>722404451>have toHave to?
>>722407269>And Reducing the activation limit from 5 Times to 1 time per 24 hoursLinuxtroons are gonna FREAK!
Denuvo is simply bad because it costs a fuckload of money which is removed from the budget of the game. There is no benefit for consoomers. Denuvo is net negative for gamers and most likely for developers. It is only maintained to appease stakeholders and softpower over software. As a gamer there is literally 0 reason to support inclusion of denuvo as you have nothing to gain from it.
>>722404572The only denuvo game I liked was DMC 5. And it was cracked a day after release.Having denuvo is a red flag and tells me that devs are not confident enough to give people opportunity to try before buying.
>>722408510>Anon raises valid, well constructed points>HURDURR U r p00r poopy kek XDAnother blithering shit devouring retard who cannot tell the difference between his asshole from his mouth. So devoid of devoid of foresight and critical thought it is a miracle you shitpost on this board unassisted. People like anon and myself are concerned about ownership. It is not a matter of if, but WHEN Steam or Denuvo's servers go offline. We have already seen it with the Xbox 360, Wii, DS/3DS, Wii U, and Sony tried to pull the plug on PS3/Vita/PSP before the backlash. Now they leave the store a bug riddled mess and cripple payment methods to force players into piracy so they can justify shutting it all down. It's going to inevitably happen with Denuvo. And you will be one of the main retards crying about "money stolen" when you can no longer access "your" games.
>>722410309Those are paid events, anyone can give money to steam to put whatever sale banner on the front page they want. GoG on the other hand is pretty public about giving money to fags and shit
>>722405539>digimonlooks like shit just like pokemont. 39
>>722405762Nintendo always charged premium but this nonsense that other companies who don't even bother to fix their games still charge high prices is crazy. Even huge games like RDR2 still got tons of graphical glitches/bugs that they never fixed, some of which were there day 1. Any time you bring this up people always strangely acts like it doesn't matter too
>>722407413>Btw, the point of the installers being 4 GB chunks is so you can burn them to DVD if you want.that's retarded, if I want that I can just use 7-zip to compress and split the file into chunks.
>>722411331
>>722411637>7-zipDo open source trannies really? WinRAR is RIGHT THERE.
>>722406490You're not paying to pirate, you're paying to not let Them win. And Them is whoever has most recently slighted you! You ever heard of cutting your nose off to spite your face! Cut your whole head off to spite your body! Never be afraid to escalate! You should be willing to burn the entire world to the ground before you ever admit defeat, because otherwise you're WEAK! AND YOUR DADDY WILL NEVER LOVE YOU! HE'S BEEN DEAD FOR TWENTY YEARS BUT YOU'RE STILL TRYING TO MAKE HIM STOP HITTING YOU!
>>722411736Fox is right, actually. Grapes suck ass. He should eat meat instead.
>>722411736damm he lowkey thicc af
>>722411851Sounds oddly plausible as their mentality.
>>722411329>DMC5 and it was cracked a day after release.2019 game. Not happening these days.>>722410986Some linuxtroons run Windows games in a VM which has direct access to GPU (PCIe passthrough).It'd be funny to see a VM-based solution for running Denuvo games on any machine with a single activation ticket get developed and widely distributed. Something like https://github.com/x86matthew/WinVisor but developed further and with specific features targeting Denuvo. It should be relatively easy to fake all the stuff Denuvo normally uses to tie an activation token to a particular machine (including the response to the x86 CPUID instruction) if you run the game under a hypervisor.I think this is more likely to happen in the near future than someone stepping forward can actually crank out proper Denuvo cracks out one after another. I want to see them block running the game under a VM.
>>722411736Now that I think about it. This picture should be redrawn as an anthro loli bratty fox to further show those pesky denuvo haters how they actually look like
>>722411217>stakeholdersyou should be *****i hope they put Denuvo on your doorlock
>>722411359Are you sure you aren't thinking of CDPR? They did a video and some stuff about ESG and similar.
>>722411637At this point it it might just be tradition. But I'm sure some users appreciate it.
>>7224122014GB is also the file size limit for fat32 and that's the real reason for those chunks.
>>722412096Stockholders are stakeholders (in the company).
>>722404898>Objectively speaking, mention a single game with shitnuvo which is worthwhile to pirateJudgmentLost JudgmentEvil Genius 2Hi-Fi Rush
>>722412078>2019 game. Not happening these days.Not the point. Every other denuvo game I played, which are:>Wu Kong>SMT 5>Stellar BladeWere shit. Unless it's a game from a developer I really trust, I'm not buying it
>>722411359I'll probably just give this to you, having googled "GOG.com pride month". But I'm capable of ignoring the gay shit because it's so rare (and I rarely visit the GOG front page anyway, so I wouldn't see the gay artwork) and I value a lot of the rest of the stuff GOG does.
>>722412338Only real answer in this entire thread
>>722412053Trust me, I know humanity's true nature, and deep down, underneath the mask of civility, there's just a screaming, howling, snarling ego-monster. There are a lot of people who would rather die a trillion times than admit defeat. If you put someone like that in a Saw trap that they could only escape by either admitting that they're not perfect or peeling their own skin off with a rusty, dull potato peeler and eating it, the first words out of their mouth would be "Give me the damn potato peeler."
>>722412078>Some linuxtroons run Windows games in a VM which has direct access to GPU (PCIe passthrough).Why not just use Windows at that point?
>>722412096how does it feel to be someone who failed 5th grade?
>>722412584Because Windows sucks for everything else.
>>722412584Because Windows sucks nowadays? yeah I know Linux sucks tooHigher compatibility than wine/Proton, possibly more performance if you have Nvidia, and depending on how you set it up it's still more convenient than dualbooting just to play a single video game.
>>722412727>it's still more convenient than dualbooting just to play a single video game.Except the need for a 2nd $2000 GPU.I'm not going to buy a second 5090 just so I can run Linux.
>>722412360>>SMT 5>>Stellar Blade>Were shit.Fucking retard. Said no one ever. Keep coping and keep lying to yourself, you're not fooling anyone
>>722404554>poor shaming
>>722411736>No argument Sasuga, retard. What the fuck am "I" even reaching for in your shitpost image? Denuvo games I'll never buy and instead purchase physically on console that don't require a permanent internet connection? As I have the day since I first picked up a controller? Holy fuck anon, you sure showed me!
>>722412960You don't need a $2000 GPU to run a Linux desktop. You can use an older spare card or an integrated GPU.
>>722413090
>>722412961>Said no one ever.If you exclude people with good taste, then maybe yeah.
>>722412302Today I learned, yet I will forget. RIP me.Is GOG retarded for still using fat32, or not, in part because of fat32's broad compatibility (at least according to Google AI)?
>>722413126Again, what I am reaching for? Last (You.)
>>722413398Damn it, Verstappen almost got it
>>722413108But then I'd need to run ALL my games in the Windows VM, at which point I'm back to being better off just running Windows. I only use my PC for games and web browsing anyway. Chrome works better on Windows than it does on Linux anyhow.
>>722413349It's not that GOG is retarded but people are still using old ass hardware with fat32.They do not want extra refunds because people cannot install their games. Steam simply doesn't support 32bit systems anymore besides W10, and W10 32bit supports ends with this year.
>>722413471>dejewvo shill so desperate he keeps changing the file hashpathetic
>>722404451I can't even think of a single recent game with denuvo that I wanted to play so whatever. Even if there was I still wouldn't do it, the last game I played with denuvo (re8) ended up being a thousand times better cracked or post patch
>>722413126>>722413471Here you go, twin. I got you.
>>722413835You think Max gonna able to overtake Russell on Turn 1 ?
There's already more games to play than available free time so this doesn't really concern me
>>722412360Why were those games shit in your opinion?
>>722404451My steam account was literally just stolen by some fuckface yesterday. Fucker changed the email and password, so now i'm waiting for steam support to savd my pirating ass. Don't pirate shit brahhs, it's not worth it. Nothing might happen for many years, but then some fuckface suddenly steals your account one random day and that's just super annoying...
>>722404590The group of people willing/capable of cracking it is small enough they can all be bought or off or court raped
>>722404590the people who cracked it have been hired by denuvo or retired
>>722413684I only have Windows installed at the moment in my desktop PC so I can't go try it in practice but I think I've read somewhere that if you have iGPU + card you can do a laptop type setup where the picture rendered by the high power GPU is presented via the iGPU. (card + card I don't know)Also afaik CUDA works in Linux even if desktop is running via iGPU and you don't even need to do anything special. I could personally live with having to boot the Windows VM for any game which doesn't run on the iGPU as long as AI image/video generation doesn't need it.anyway nowhere in the original post I made any claims about this being a good way to play games, just said that some linuxtrannies do it this way and it'd be funny to see denuvo to block VMs (anything they do which inconveniences even 1 more person who buys denuvo-raped games is something i'd enjoy watching)
>>722414046Did you have 2FA?
>>722414719He is either trolling or retarded.He would need to lose the access to his email as well because of how $team works even without 2FA.
>>722414006If I'm being honest, "painfully mid" would be a more precise description of how I feel towards them.Stellar Blade was overall plain and boring.Wu Kong had great boss fights, but levels between them were absolute snooze fest. When I bought the game, I also expected much better art direction because of store screenshots.The only redeeming quality of SMT V is character design (especially demons), they are fucking peak and there should be more fanart of them. Gameplay feels outdated. Plot is one of the most retarded anime bullshit I've ever seen, and not in a cool and endearing way like in Astlibra, but in a lame and faggy way like in SAO. My friend who is the fan of the series told me that I should've started with SMT3. But now I don't really feel like it.
>>722413725The irony is GOG's goal is to support old games on NEW machines. But I still see some GOG games listing support for Windows as far back as XP (rarely *that* far back though).
>>722404451>>722404572I've never missed a game i couldn't pirate: I just play something else.Suck on that, bitch.
>>722404898Total War Warhammer 3.
>>722404590It is until somebody cracks it. >>722404742t. retard who has no idea what he's talking about.
>>722414367>the people who cracked itNobody has ever cracked any of the recent Denuvo versions.
>>722415796
>>722405595>be tiny little Austria >mog the rest of the world in somethingWhy complain?
>>722405670>I fucking love capitalismCould also be that a ton of other companies figure out how to make DRM that actually works, and then everybody has their own cheap version.
>>722406534>>722406118I always appreciate when the industry insiders come to 4chan to leak contract details.
>>722409169Yeah, every time you pirate a game, gog loses $50. You mongoloid.
>>722409482I'm a non-retard, and therefore I understand that supporting 3 companies that are gay is better than supporting 20
>>722412112Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
>>722407063>what do you mean it will rain tomorrow, it isn't raining right now levels of thinking
>>722407289Because /po/ talks about folding paper, not video games.
>Excited to play upcoming game>It releases with denuvo>Wait for a year or more for denuvo to be removed>Now lost all interest in the gameMany such cases. I should almost thank them, because they are saving me money.
>>722410050The reason why "we" didn't have DRM like Denuvo in the past wasn't because they weren't trying.
>>722417230
>>722410050I usually play anywhere from 3-5 big games a year, and it's rare that I'll skip more than one or two due to denuvo. The notion that all games has it, is just wrong. It's mostly just high profile AAA games, which are usually not worth playing anyway.Only games I am currently waiting for denuvo removal atm, is Stellar lade, khazan and total warhammer3, which will likely never remove it.
>>722417323No, the reason is that in the past crackers were trying harder. Denuvo is nothing but SecuROM with a new name and developed further.btw. I'm not blaming or shaming crackers here for not trying (=doing something else with their lives than cracking games for no profit) just observing a factAnyone remember Starforce? The Splinter Cell game with Starforce DRM took over a year to crack and that was with an actually active cracking scene lol.
>>722411329> devs are not confident enough to give people opportunity to try before buying.It’s called Steam refund policy.
>>722404451>wait a year or two>get a version with no denuvo, all DLC and patched performance for $0thanks for funding my game zoomer trashlearn to curb your ADHD FOMO someday
>>722418028Arguably 2 hours is not always enough to figure out whether you like a game or not. You're also not supposed to use refunds on Steam on too often.
>>722404505fpbpOP status: owned
>>722418391I know a guy that refunds hundreds of games a year. He gets warned about it but nothing ever happens. He only has a 6 year babby account but still, hes been doing it for a few years.
>>722404451I'm not playing the digimon game rn because of this :(There's no way I'm paying 100 euros for a complete game
>>722418854stop being poor
>>722418687Someone here posted a while ago about actually getting refundbanned on Steam. Perhaps it was fake news, I don't know, I've only used the refund feature about 3 times or so in many many years. sometimes i've been thinking about using it to get activated for a denuvo game and then refunding lol haven't done that yet though
>>722417230newer denuvo doesn't seem to have as much of performance impact as previous iterations
>>722417853>Denuvo is nothing but SecuROMand blast door is nothing but a veil lol
>>722404451>pirates have to doNo I don't. All I do is not give a shit about shitnuvo games. After a year they remove the cancer and I might pirate it, or I'll just forget about the slop.
>denuvo servers are down>now you have a $60 digital paperweight
>>722420717>denuvo servers are down>do something else for 10-20 minutes like a bath, clean the house, etc>denuvo servers are up>play video games
>>722421104Most adults a 20/30 minute interruption would mean no video gaymes this week.
>>722420202It literally is though, just with a new name and developed further. The Denuvo company (which later got sold to Irdeto) was started by SecuROM people after Sony was no longer interested in developing and selling SecuROM.Denuvo is nothing unique or special. It doesn't get cracked simply because today nobody who is actually skilled in cracking is interested in cracking video games. There's at least Arxan DRM as well which tends to get cracked either never or only after a long time.
>>722406956They still haven't patched it and you can get the games for free no 5$ needed on discord OP is literally just huffing that hopium
>only buy 1 game in the past decade>pirate everything else>everything with denuvo that I want to play, I don't give a shit anymore. I can play other games without it for free>everything without denuvo, I can pirate it and drop it if I don't like it with no buyers remorse (obscura 33 I haven't even started yet).playing megabonk right now and it's a buggy mess that hogs ram and eventually crashes any computer, so Im glad I didn't pay money for that.Denuvo will never work on someone like me, because I was never going to pay for the game to play it. It's not a lose of a sale if I eventually play it because I was never going to buy it. I'll watch that shit on youtube if I want to see it bad enough. Something like death stranding 2, I have no ps5, it won't come out for another year, and it's a movie game with extra steps so I could just watch the fucking cutscenes on youtube and "beat the whole game".unless walkthroughs disappear completely, denuvo and game companies will never have actual leverage.
>>722421321Uhuh sure Mr Expert
>>722404451I wouldn't play modern games even if they paid me too.Zero interest in woke slop full of trannies developed by jewish subhumans, featuring worse graphics than decade old games.
>>722419159>tells anon to stop being poor>is himself too poor to buy game for anonstop being poor.
>>722421427Why is it so important to you that Denuvo is seen as something truly unique, special or strong? Are you perhaps a company man?
>>722414046fake and gay
>>722404451Who cares, the only entertainment videogames these days provide is seeing blue haired tranny developers cry when they get fired.
Having low time preference (aka not being a literal or spiritual nigger) is life's cheat code.You get to among many other things play games for free or heavily discounted just because you understand the passage of time
>>722421693my dad works at denuvo and also says that they didn't really care but no one really cracks it so it's okay
>>7224072891 part shills, 2 parts faggots desperate for attention and are so unlikable they can't manage to get a response without rage-baiting. It's why you're supposed to ignore bait.
>>722421693A virgin millennial has spent a decade of his life spamming these threads.I remember he spent months shilling Lords of the Fallen just because it used Denuvo.He also shilled legitimate trash like Homeworld 3, Wukong or Atomic Heart because of the DRM
>>722404572>game has denuvo>nobody pirates>company finally drops it>nobody pirates it after seeing how trash the game isthis gay ass DRM only exist to get gullible and retards to waste money
>>722404451>all this implyingyou are fucking brown as shit go back to your sunk cost fallacy games you coping retard
in the entire life span of DRMs from SecuRom to this this shit, I've never witnessed this garbage being shilled while attacking pirates and the same time sucking the cocks of the corporate niggers who don't give a fuck about you at all... like you are mentally retardedback then piracy was 100 times more rampant and everyone support it and acknowledged it and even asked on how to do it properly from burning DVDs to sharing this fucking brainwashed mental attitude towards glorifying DRM can only mean on thing: you are a fucking SHILL
>>722422320
>>722422787>le grapes post your Steam profile shit skin
>>722414367considering nobody else has come up that can crack denuvo besides the same few figures Iike skidrow, volksi, then pirates deserve to not play those games. the whole idea behind vidya piracy was to be a robin hood esque endeavor to give to the have-nots what they want. if the have-nots will not develop the skills needed to obtain the treasure, then they do not deserve it.
>>722422923
Nowadays I get more enjoyment out of seeing this industry fall apart than playing the turbo casual woke slop it produces.In fact, even if the games were good, I would still love seeing devs get screwed over, it's a great source of schadenfreude.
>mentally ill brown DRM transvestite filtered by one single request>keeps spamming his shitty grapes image while changing the hash to ban evadeslit your throat already Denuvo shill holy fuck
>>722404451There are plenty of games that don't have denuvo, so I simply play those instead.
>>722421191>I'm so adult, I have 20 minutes of free time a week Consider stop working in a slave mine, anon.
>>722409625yes. i pay 5 bux to get a steam offline account
>>722424520
>>722420115It depends on how retarded the devs were when applying it. You're not supposed to flag code running too often (like every frame) for obfuscation by Denuvo, only something which is executed more rarely, ideally only something executed when the game is initializing or loading a level. I've not seen many complaints (from people who actually played the game and don't just post hearsay and shit on the Internet) about performance in Denuvo DRM'd games for a while so they probably got better at it. A Denuvo-free executable would still have shorter initial startup and loading times especially if you have a slow thirdie CPU.https://momo5502.com/posts/2024-03-31-bypassing-denuvo-in-hogwarts-legacy/I wonder if "only once every few seconds" could still cause visible problems due to CPU cache evictions which wouldn't happen if the CPU didn't have to deal with executing megabytes of Denuvo bloat (but note he says it eventually stops doing even that, I guess it might be related to deferred loading / streaming)However, regardless of whether it reduces performance or not, Denuvo and anyone involved with developing or selling it should die a painful death.
>>722424997>Denuvo and anyone involved with developing or selling it should die a painful death.agreed
>>722404451I'm not touching anything with the stink of Irdeta on it after SecuROM but most people here are too young to remember that piece of shit.
>>722426431Im 25 when Denuvo was announced in 2013
>>722426431Wait it was made by the same fuckos? How did they even survive the SecuROM mess?
>>722427945Well Denuvo is a massive hit after all. Killed Piracy. BTFO Pirates. Every big company used them
>>722428842Shows how big companies couldn't give any fucks if they rootkit'd us again, if they made deals with the fuckers that made SecuROM.
>>722404451i have never paid for a denuvo game. developers never gainer a single cent from me while paying millions for the protection
>>722404451I've only ever bought two games with Denuvo.It was Borderlands 3 and Wilds (technically also world and rise but those cracked. Did Rise even have denuvo?)Guess what is my fucking opinion on denuvo games what what that usually implies.It was not even sume impulsive purchases, I knew that denuvo is a marker of a shit game.The capcom one even got a free pass for relatively good world and rise so I thought there is no fucking way they will fuck up their flagship series, given how actively they usually patch.BL3 was even simplier reasoning - like how the fuck can you even ruin dumb looter shooter? Yet somehow they made characters and dialogues so fucking insufferable they dragged down somewhat improved gameplay elements BL3 had into the fucking bottom of the abyss.
>>722430774Digital Restrictions Management's only purpose is to control the end-user.
>>722414719I don't think i did. Can't remember, since steam usually just booted up automatically when i turned on the pc.
>>722430891In other words - never fucking again. If company has to 'protect' their game at the cost of paying customers - they are knowing that its going to be shit and preemptively trying to ensure they will get initial batch of sales before the word spreads.
>>722414937I'm not lying. Don't ask me about the how of it all, all i know, is that it happened.
>>722431135so you are retarded, that seems to go without asking for more
>>722421714Is not
>>722431228I'm not retarded for being hacked, that shit is an occupational hazard when you pirate games, it is what it is. You either learn to live with it, or you stop pirating games, simple as that.
>>722404451>Saves people from AAA slopThanks Denuvo
>>722431407what the fuck is this psyop lmfao
>>722431407Anon you might be retarded. People nowdays don't even run antiviruses, like where do you even get your games from. Fucking russians and chinks have outright marketplaces with free games, with moderation, trusted posters and shit.
>>722431623it's a troll, I didn't read the previous post
>>722404451Since they moved to a subscription model I don't really care anymore. Just wait 1-2 years and it stops being financially worthwhile for a company to keep paying the $20k/month for Denuvo. I don't care about the hype so it's whatever.That isn't to say I wouldn't prefer games be available day 1 on pirate sites but outside of Monster Hunter nothing has caught my interest enough to be worth playing day 1.
>>722431624Anon you also might be retarded, I know you are low effort trolling but that image does not even apply here.Also>he defends fucking borderlands 3Its genuinely the only game I've ever purchased, denuvo or not, that I regret having. Thank fuck its on EGS so I can trow away the whole account just to not be associated with that garbage. Yes its that bad.
>>722432403But what if the grapes are actually sour tho
>>722404451Weird all the goty and top record sales games dont have denuvo. That just probe denuvo games are mediocre and they know it. But it locks the sale.Inb4 rephantasio. Is gay and shit as fuck, I dont know how it was even nominated.
>>722404505>don't care. all shitnuvo games are shit anywayWrong, Persona has denuvo
I get Denuvo tokens for free on a Discord server, it works as long as you don't update Windows/drivers or the game itself. Played through Wukong and Stellar Blade for free this way.
>>722435738What?
>>722435805schizo shit. just like the guy calling anyone who says deal with it shills.
>>722435232Wukong
>>722435636>a snoozefest for weebs>not shit
>>722436946If Denuvo didnt exist, you gonna treat the game as GOTY, Foxie.
>>722437087are you nuts
>>722437189No im not. You are the one who's nuts here. Denuvo has wired your brain to assume everything that uses them is bad. Youre fucked, man.
>>722437282what? you're running too many scenarios in your head. which miss.
>>722437748Seek help
>>722437862yabba dabba do you tooo
>>722404451This is like my cyberpunk soap operas, corporations now control the Internet so thoroughly that the only way we're ever getting regular release of Denuvo cracked games is only if some state like North Korea decides to sponsor it just to mess with everyone. Just a sad state of affairs but still I will never buy a game with Denuvo.
>>722409214It keeps writing and rewriting game data everytime you play a denuvo drm game.The encryption method they use not only locks the executable and linked dll files but also actual game data.I played RE8 on release and noticed I had over 81 gb written on that disk in just a one and a half hrs gaming session.It's why the game had fps drops all over, thought it was shader cache but turned out it was because of this shit.Pirated the game to test this, zero dropped frames and zero gigabytes written while gaming.This cancer needs to die.
>>722438202Stop spreading false lies on the internet.
How is the performance for Judgment and Lost Judgment? Those are the only Denuvo games that interest me.
>>722439049worked fine at 1440/60 on my beast of a machine called 3060Ti
>>722439049Any Potatoes can run it
>>722439147>>722439157Sweet. That's the exact card I have.
>>722439480
>>72243904910fps with stutter on RTX 5090 and gonna deplenish your TBW in 10 hours according to pirateniggers
>>722439772why are you like this
>>722404451I haven't bought a single denuvo game and there hasn't been a single denuvo game I wanted to play
>>722440037
>>722439147>with upscaling and frame generation
>>722440115If there was a denuvo game I wanted to play, I would just buy it. I'm not a poorfag like you
>>722440125nope 'ate dlss and frame gen, not amish just don't like 'em
>>722440037>>722440191
Denuvo won
