What caused CoD to flop?
CoD caused CoD to flop
People get tired of it but in a few years a lot of people will be excited for the new cod
>>722408669Streamer whitelists
The matchmaking is completely fucked, casual players are forced to go up against ultra sweats
>>722408848>anyone streamer don't like = kicked from server.As well.
>>722408890>This scrub needs skill based matchmaking elo hell to guide his hand in a casual pew pew game.You just suck at the game, this is how FPS games used to be zoomzoom.
>I-I-T'S GOING TO F-FAIL yeah just like the other CoDs that were OBVIOUSLY going to fail, right
>>722408669Steam is like the worst place to play CoD as it runs at a lower FPS compared to Bnet. Also like 90% of the playerbase is on consoles.
>>722408669Wasn't the beta only for preorders while Battlefield's was open? Retard.
>>722409070They only survive because of brand recognition like Coca Cola in food and Adidas in clothing.
wonder if part of it is the cod generation largely being almost all grown ass men now
>>722409040This is SBMM on steroids, the system intentionally puts you in matches that it knows you'll lose
>>722409125Just like Battlefield.
>>722409094I'd like to suggest a revolutionary equation: steam + console (+ AI). I think this would change gaming as we've come to know today
>>722408669i hate fps niggas almost as much as woke niggasgame is barley any diffrent but with more scummy excuses to get money out of you and yet they eat this slop up like pigs again and again
>>722409202Actually based.>>722409269Yep, any long running series still around is only surviving because of it.
>>722409109I'm pretty sure this dude hit the nail on the head. The numbers were low because you needed to buy the premium edition or something to get access to the beta
>>722408669They tried to become FortniteJust like Rainbow Six SiegeWhen you imitate a...may Allah forgive me for saying this word...superior product...you just admit to being the inferior productNever do thatNever compromise
Do retards here think Steam is the entire gaming world?
>>722409392Fortnite isn't superior in anyway, the combat is lacking in depth and is just APM build/edit spam to win 1v1s. Only reason Fortnite survives is because its kid-friendly game so everyone plays it. The graphics are dog-shit on top.
>>722408669At some point people move on, especially since the game is essentially the same as when it first came out just with fancier graphics
>>722408669hey retards, that was a pre-order only beta, there's an open beta starting tomorrow.
>>722408669When will whites especially white Americans get sick of FPSes?You gun freaks need to get a new hobby.
>>722409502it's not necessarily superior, but it is far more popular. it's pointless to try to immitate a more successful product, because you're not going to convince anyone to migrate, and very few people are going to be interested in playing both.
>>722409664Fortnite is just zoomers forever game like Quake was for Boomers or Counter-Strike for Millenials, its not necessarily good, just more popular and recognized.
>>722408669CoD goes through another fatigue cycle it did back with Infinite Warfare going into BO4. Then it rose in popularity with MW2019 and now even normgroids and CoD slop enjoyers are fatigued. They will have to do design overhaul ala MW2019 again lol.
>>722408669Proof it flopped? Cuz the main audience do not play it on steam.
>>722409094>Also like 90% of the playerbase is on consoles.This isnt true according to documents provided by Activision during FTC trial. PC is actually on par with Playstation consoles while Mobile makes up majority of playerbase.
>>722408848What's that? Do they get preferred treatment somehow?
>>722408669fatigue, I imagine. there's no way people are excited to play another one. it's like asscreed; same shit, different game.
>>722410680Primary so the streamers can cheat, the server side anti-cheat and Richochet ignores anything detected
woke & woke SBMM aka EOMM
>>722408669>judging performance on beta numbers linux user mentality.
>>722408669I've been having a blast with the beta. I was shocked at how much I enjoyed multiplayer. Zombies is in the beta this time around and that feels fantastic as well. I only ever get Black Ops titles pretty much just for zombies. If I enjoy the multiplayer as well then that's a big plus. Campaigns are also always kino.
bo7 is still in closed beta, only for the sheep who pre-orderedopen beta starts tomorrow the 5th
isnt cod like 250+ gb now?
Didn't a black ops game just come out, why is there another one so soon?
>>722408890I have heard retards complain about skill based matchmaking for 5 years, they remove it and now its a problem?
>>722412289aye, bo6 was last yearthey have given up even trying to spread out the different subtitlesnext year will probably be mw4, not even an original setting
>>722409040"the sweats" anti-SBMM fags keep talking about are probably also casual players just chilling and having a good time, but better at the game because they have more experience playing other FPS games. the problem is that everyone in the so called "casual" playerbase wants to play the game without putting too much thought or effort into it AND still not loseeven if it's one guy is plahing super casually and listening to the hatsune miku playlist on youtube he might be very oppressive to newer players, that is why games NEED sbmm so people of similar level get matched with each other.either the playerbase is retarded and full of sweats claiming they're casual, or the SBMM is malicious because developers wanted people to be addicted to it. or most likely, both
>>722409392>slopnite>superior productShit taste>AllahEnjoy burning in hell.
>>722408669jesus I didn't even know they were all the way up to part 7 already
>>722408669People don't want israeli propaganda anymore
>>722412165>only for the sheep who pre-orderedand those that watched the stream also got a beta codeand everyone that's subbed to any of the streamers invited to codfirst also got a codeand everyone that's been redeeming any of the codes that all the influencers are spamming all over their chats every 5 minutes.but realistically who would leave a livestream on for entire hour just to get access to closed cod beta lol
>>722412952You're completely wrong on that, if they were casuals they wouldn't need to hide the player's level and rank from their games like with overwatch.You niggers always say that sbmm is bad, but you never get to the part that it's not fun for people who play a couple matches every other week.Entering a set of 30 or 40 matches you have no possibility to win isn't fun, which is what made me blacklist overwatch for the foreseeable future.
>>722408669The game is fucking garbage.
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>>722409292act like a fool, think like a brilliant..
>steamie charts
>>722413720i'm confused are you defending or against sbmm?>>722413720>but you never get to the part that it's not fun for people who play a couple matches every other week.lower rank people benefit a lot from SBMM because if it didn't exist they'd all be cannon fodder for top 10% players. keep in mind top players might only be a fraction of the playerbase but they play way more, so in a none-SBMM game you'd encounter gods who shits on everyone making the game ubplayable every 2 matches
>>722409572i disagree, the game is not the same. every year its wildly different. call of duty used to try and take itself somewhat seriously, recreating battles with some creative liberties sure but it was meant to be a grim interpretation of war. now the brand is sullied, i know nothing about what the new games are about beyond nikki minaj twerking in front of butthead while some console kid with sensitivity 10 is randomly diving and climbing every single wall. its no longer cool or manly
>>722414451>lower rank people benefit a lot from SBMM because if it didn't exist they'd all be cannon fodder for top 10% playersThat's entirely my point, I'm a casual at best since I barely play shooter and non mmo multiplayer games, so having the ability to even have the chance to win is a must for me, the last like 10 matches I played of overwatch my team was so utterly overpowered by clearly old level 3000 or 4000 that I just stopped finding the game fun, you could see they were heavy sweathards because they always had expensive paid skins while everyone on my team was using the default skins.
>Black Ops 7 immediately following Black Ops 6Bad mojo.I see that MWIII also followed MWII directly, and that is when their relatively succesful BR started tanking in popularity.Now obviously you can question the merits of CoD as a franchise and where exactly it died if it even ever lived, but Warzone 2, at least initially, was pretty successful.You just don't go against established traditions in your own franchise, you are asking for karmatic trouble.Or rather it is a sign that the people at the helm don't care about franchise's traditions
>>722408669that's including warzone by the way. all the new cod games are under one game on steam
Lol @ the pajeet microshit shills ittThe games are worse than garbage now that’s how
>>722414545You summed it up well for most of us. I stopped playing during BLOPs 3
>1 million dudes only play cod on their Playstations>6 million dudes played cod 70% of their time on their Playstation>these stats are from 2021
>fag ops twice in a row>more future slop
didn't cod remove sbmm secretly a few years ago only to find out players complained even more?
Call of Duty has been console trash designed around controllers and televisions since and including CoD2.
>>722409502Zerobuild has been in the game for years now dude haha
>>722408669>black ops 7last time i thought about call of duty it was the second black ops coming out
>>722408669Was it a 150gb download?
>>722408669Because the game in on game pass
>>722408669CoD was always primarily a console pleb franchise. Not sure how relevant Steam numbers are for it.
>>722408669https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFik3U3Q5Ichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgZYadummoQ
>>722415695https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/deprioritizing-skill-based-matchmaking-turned-call-of-duty-into-the-bad-placefound the article, love the experiment because it shows>not only shitters but "top" players left the game when they realised they weren't good as they thought they were>actbliz treats its customers like cattle to experiment with
>>722408669I only play shooters without w*men
>>722408669aren't there massive losses due to cod being on gamepass and where people are going to be playing for cheap (until this year)
>>722416445Actiblizz patented MTX based matchmaking so what did you expect
>>722409502Zero build in fortnite has been in the game (and more popular than build) for like 3-4 years now dude move on
Not enough girl bosses and neon flashing gun skins
>>722409125Brand recognition wouldn't work if they didn't do something right.CoD games are junk food FPS, easy to pick up and play for every type of audienceIt's people's first pick if they want their FPS fixNobody's gonna replace it any time soon
>>722408669pc players cheat with zero effort (ricochet is a joke)they cope blaming the looney toon skin but cheaters are CoD's main problem since mw2019
>>722416601its a free beta so no that doesnt make sense why you would pay for a subscription service to play a free beta
>>722408669If people want to simulate what war feels like, they can just go outside.
>>722408669It looks better than bloppy 6 (better maps, better movement) but there is just no consumer confidence in it whatsoever. Treyarch games have been on the back foot since 2019, and doing two in a row after they already went full fortnite aesthetics wise, it's just not a good sell
There's a new black ops already? I thought 6 just came out
>>722408669Normie kids don't bother with consoles anymore.Actual videogames for people who care will stick around, but the retarded normieslop garbage is on its deathbed, alongside consoles themselves.
>>722412325maybe the playerbase is so big that no matter what they do there is going to be lots of backlash?
>>722408669The ever devolving mentality that let them greenlit for their "war themed" shooter, the chance for players to witness Beavis kicking a Terminator in the "balls", or Cody Rhodes hitting the Cross Rhodes on Homelander.
AA and sbmm. its literally a skinner box
>>722417339not even a year old>October 25, 2024Campaign was terrible with a few highs, but a really low, low.MP was pretty fun before battle pass guns ruined it.
>>722418975holy fuck how many studios do they have to churn out a cod game every year?
>>722419137black ops 6 apparently had 10 https://www.mobygames.com/game/232763/call-of-duty-black-ops-6/credits/playstation-5/
i cant wait for battlefield to die immediately few weeks after launchfpsniggers are so retarded
I'm just waiting for it to open up to gamepass so that I can try the zombies.
Anybody playing COD on PC that isn't retarded isn't playing through Steam so these numbers are worthless. The Battlefield comparison is retarded because inversely everybody is going to play Battlefield through Steam.
>>722412952Yeah I fuck around listeningnto music talking to people in the room, use guns I like and iron sights only because im autistically against scopes and stuff, I like to fuck around and make cool shit happen. I top the board most matches and get all kinds of shit comments and I use mouse and keyboard as well so i domt even have the aimbot assist.
>>722408669Please be crossover slop fatiguePlease be crossover slop fatiguePlease be crossover slop fatigue
>>722408669There's a new CoD every year like clockwork.There hasn't been a new Battlefield in 4 years, and hasn't been a good one in much longer.Also the main draw of Black Ops is it's mindfuck campaigns, and the Beta doesn't have that, just the multiplayer modes.
>>722408669People don't want fps/tps anymore, too many cheaters
>>722416647If that's true why does it feel like every game these days uses it?Or did they do it so long ago that the patent expired?
I stopped bothering with COD, since Black Ops Cold War multiplayer was literally making me physical tired.It's like they did some extremely controlled dopamine injections with SBMM, which made me feel disgusted.Doesn't help that almost every time I hear about COD is those retarded out of place cosmetics. I know that COD always had represented everything that went wrong with gaming since og MW2, but boy, new games make old games look like a god send, and that's despite the fact old games had paid DLC maps.>>722420427You're crazy to think that people spend $70-80 + Deluxe idk edition + tip + tax just to play <4 hours campaigns. People stick to online and they didn't even bother to make a campaign for BO4
>>722420667Because despite all, Activision still claims that it doesn't use EOMM, but SBMM, and they even claim that their 7th gen games already used SBMM.If they were to sue anyone, they would admit that they're using their EOMM, give more media coverage to that and they would need a proof.
>>722409798They are redesigning it. Rumors are future games is going to have hand to hand combat
>>722418975>but a really low, low.What was the low low? I liked the campaign, even the last level which inexplicably changed the focus from the protagonist to the antagonist.
>>722420890You don't have to use a patent to enforce it, you can sit on it for two decades and still sue anyone who tries to use it.Look at Warner Bros patent for the Nemesis system, they haven't used it for a DC comics game like it's so obviously perfect for, but meanwhile none of their competitors making Marvel games or anything else has dared try to infringe on it.
>>722415695Yea bro just blindly trust Activision even though they showed no proof at all
>>722420954nta but I didn't care for the non-linear levels nor the marvel-tier writing from the last few games. I just want linear action blockbuster
Fortnitification and EOMM had disastrous effects to online multiplayer games
>>722408669This new strategy of having filler years that are just dressed up full-priced DLC for last year's game is getting old. If Activision wants CoD to keep going, they have to stop making it an annualized series. The sequel numbers are getting so high with so little to show for it, and it makes the franchise cheap and shitty.
>>722421313Ok, I get that, I found them interesting in the MW games because they're more like Battlefield levels, but I still appreciate that CoD is a corridor shooter that generally doesn't waste your time with extraneous areas.On the other hand, I really liked stuff like the Lubyanka level in Cold War or to a less extent the level Most Wanted in BO6, since there's no shooting and it's all exploration and puzzle solving. But I can understand if people who only like shooting things didn't get into that. Still, it fits with the more cerebral nature of the Black Ops games compared to the Modern Warfare games.
Infinity Ward will save CoD again with Modern Warfare 4 just like they saved CoD with MW19. The sweats will shit and piss their pants with rage over the normal looking operators and guns and the normal movement speed in Modern Warfare 4, but nobody cares about what they think. CoD has always been a game for casuals.
>>722422091>Infinity Ward will save CoD again with Modern Warfare 4 just like they saved CoD with MW19. nu MWII was so shit, I just lost interest in the series
>>722422181nu MWII had the most entertaining Warzone at least. They need to bring back proximity chat. That shit was funny.
>>722422645that's also when Warzone died, didn't it?
>>722421386>FortnitificationThe what now?
>>722422710I don't remember the numbers, but I do remember a lot of bans happening. For example, I remember Dr. Disrespect getting banned just for coughing a lot.
>>722412325It's almost as if centralized matchmaking is alienating
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>>722422769See>>722417518
>>722422948this is hilarious
>>722408669People can't afford 8000 dollar PCs now so they can't run this shit.
>>722422948>this is supposed to be...LE BAD
>>722414889The rumor at the time was that CoD was going to switch from releasing a new game every year to alternating between new games and expansions but they pussied out at the last second and had to throw together a new game to sell as MWIII from the expansion assets.Assuming that's true they won't have had a chance to regain their footing until MWIV next year after which they're supposedly switching back to the old release style again.
>>722408669We're at black ops seven now???
>>722423823I don't understand, you say they pussied out and didn't change their release style (which meant they got to charge full price for what was supposed to be an extension) but then you close by saying they're switching back to the old release style when they never changed it?
>>722424231They were going to make expansions, instead of new gamesMWII was going to get expansion with MW2 mapsBO6 was going to get expansion with BO2 mapsThey changed MWII expansion to standalone game, so MWIII became MWII asset swap with some reworks and MW2 maps.They had 2 more years for BO6 expansion, so they had more time to change plans, but not entirely, so it's still Black Ops and a sequel to BO2 at that.For the next games they should go back to releasing Modern Warfare, new filter game by Raven/Sledgehammer (like AW, WWII, Vanguard), Black Ops and so on.
>>722425139>new filter game*filler
