Was there any way for V and Jackie to make it out alive from this situation?
Shooting Yorinobu through the screen before he got to alert his staff, and escaping through the elevator. Cameras were disabled anyways
>>722413934>Shooting Yorinobu through the screen before he got to alert his staffDon't they have pulse monitors for both Yorinobu and Saburo? They're both dead, so I think the security alarms would trigger shortly after the systems would figure out they're dead.
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>>722413650No, Adam Smasher even knew you were in there, he's just a sick fuck and did nothing about it.
>>722413650Yes, with better cybernetics to dodge bullets
everybody in the city has cyber x-ray eyes and none of the highly trained bodyguards could see the two retards through a few inches of glass?
>>722414113In his eyes V and Jackie are basically rats in the walls, hes most likely doing the bodyguard gig reluctantly because he would rather be in a huge shoot out exploding people, so hell probably only do his job out of obligation since unless youre a squad of Dai Oni ExoMechs youre not going to entertain him at all
>>722414441>In his eyes V and Jackie are basically rats in the wallsYeah exactly.
>>722414041Yeah, you'd still probably have more time to move than when Yorinobu alerts his staff, in which case the alarm is raised instantly. In that situation, the few seconds it'd take to rush through the elevator might save you. Assuming it's more than a few seconds, minutes would allow for V and Jackie to walk away from the front door
>>722414607Wouldn't Takemura and Smasher be waiting at the elevator though? It's an obvious escape path to guard so obviously they'd be there. If not them, then some other generic Arasaka guards.I thought of using the helipad (supposedly that's where Saburo comes down from) but then I remembered that would also be guarded by drones and guards. Outside of the escape path T-Bug gives you, I see no way out of Konpeki Plaza without being seen by the security detail.
>>722413650why didnt his biomonitor recognize hes under sudden stress/cant breathe and activate alarm? The 2 bodyguards on the roof shouldve stormed that place in a split second. Same with Takemura
>>722414743Fair enough, yeah. T-bug really fucked it to be fair. Then at least you're known as the mercy who zeroed Yorinobu and Saburo Arasaka, go down in a blaze of glory
>>722414321If you have threat detector implant it becomes clear that Adam Smasher sees both of them immediatelly when he enters the room. He just doesn't act for some reason.
>>722415005fuck, meant to say merc, not mercy
>>722413650I imagine T-Bug could help. A lot probably. But alas.
>>722415012I guess he figured the two of you weren't there to kill anybody. Or he didn't care if you did because then he'd get to kill you. Did Smasher know or care that Saburo was killed by Yorinobu?
>>722415005>>722415170I don't think T-Bug fucked up, as in, she just couldn't help shut down the drone that shoots V and Jackie. Obviously with Bug around they could've survived and probably even gotten away, but what I'm asking is was there any other path of escape? I don't remember much about the room layout and maybe I missed something.
>>722415223I don't think Smasher has nearly as much agency as people think he does. His augmentations are all Arasaka property after all. Do you think Saburo would've taken it kindly to Smasher just blowing up his penthouse due to some robbers in the house he could've dealt with afterwards instead?
>>722414321Takemura was scanning them and almost found them but for some reason his scan wasnt instant like everyone elses in NC. Wonder why some bum ass merc can afford optics that automatically highlight anything you want in the area, but the super elite bodyguard thats supposed to protect his majesty has some shitty slow optics. This is some force speed tier of retarded convenience.
>>722415368well she was already dead at that point but V still couldve short circuited the drone and shoot it couple of times
>>722415368No, there was no other way out. Really doubt the two could hijack Saburo's flying car, the one you get his katana from.Maybe use Saburo's corpse as a shield.
>>722415727Yorinobu had top of the line lining for the walls so he could hide his vintage playboys of white women without his dad finding out
>>722415727>like everyone elses in NC. You don't know that. Some of it could be contrivances for the sake of gameplay, as in, in reality those scans would be way slower.>Wonder why some bum ass merc can afford optics that automatically highlight anything you want in the area, but the super elite bodyguard thats supposed to protect his majesty has some shitty slow opticsThis can be explained by his scanning tech being more thorough. Like, say, V's scan tech only gives you the position, while Takemura can see absolutely everything - all the chrome and installed firmware, what guns you're carrying, how "healthy" you are, etc.
>>722415819>but V still couldve short circuited the drone and shoot it couple of timesThe drone could be armored. I think this is one area where the gameplay and canon are on the same terms. Since V gave up all of his guns and only had Yorinobu's pocket pistol, I doubt he could do much of anything to the drone.
>>722415836V and Jackie couldve just jump on the ladder. Also, why were the bodyguards just standing around and staring into a fog? They shouldve rushed in the moment Yorinobu raised the alarm
>>722415223He probably knows and really doesnt care, as long as they get him the most activity i.e bloodshed then he supports it, and Yorinobu aims to destroy Arasaka and thats the outcome that throws the most bodies in Adams wayIf Hanako promised him infinite bloodshed in some shithole and for her little half sister to be his pocket pussy he would 100% back her instead of Yorinobu
>>722416016you get rifles from the 2 bodyguards on the roof. And if V and Jackie shot the drone at the same time they couldve destroyed it>The drone could be armoredstill couldve short circuited it
>>722416235>you get rifles from the 2 bodyguards on the roof. And if V and Jackie shot the drone at the same time they couldve destroyed itDoesn't that happen AFTER the drone shoots you and you fall down into some ventilation chamber?>>The drone could be armored>still couldve short circuited itMaybe, but considering you're not supposed to have top tier armor canonically or in gameplay (and you don't), I'm not sure V would be able to afford daemons that would be able to take down such reinforced systems. Really weird how neither Bug nor Dex thought to give this to Jackie or V as a plan B though.
>>722413650They were just in the wrong spot at the wrong time. Truly unlucky. Only way they would've gotten out of that is if they were borged out combat vets, but they signed up for a simple theft job. Even THAT took some serious prep work.
>>722414441smasher is following yorinobu because he is promising a new world war with this plans to wreck arasaka. Smasher wants to smash hard and enjoys the bloodshed. New hardware are bonus tools for the slaughter>>722413650they were dead no matter what. ever think why the sleazy fixer Dex insisted upon the no tell motel as a regroup point? even if everything went ideally in the extremely poorly thought out plan? They were going to be killed no matter what to cover the tracks of the chip V ending up as resurrected corpse fused with johnny and a little bit of blackhand is a cosmic coincidence. Everybody else tied to the heist are in the graves
>>722413650Apologize and say you got lost trying to find the bathroom
>>722416416>they were dead no matter what. ever think why the sleazy fixer Dex insisted upon the no tell motel as a regroup point? even if everything went ideally in the extremely poorly thought out plan? They were going to be killed no matter what to cover the tracks of the chipI understand the plan was very shit from the start, I was just wondering if they were gigafucked in this moment, or if they had at least a slim chance of getting away. Remember that Arasaka wouldn't be able to find you in an instant, since it took them a moment to track down V after he kidnapped Hanako.
>>722416569>Apologize and say you got lost trying to find the bathroomThe guards ask:>What's in the briefcase? We're doing a full security sweep and have to be thorough, sir.What do you say then?
>>722415223>>722416157he still attacks you when you try to escape in Delamain, but that couldve been simply because it was an order and he cant be bothered to initiate stuff on his own. Also, he probably thought you 2 were Yorinobus accomplices >>722415482>hey who are those 2 guys hiding behind the tv?
>>722413650>jump off the roof>enter photo mode right before impactproblem solved
>>722413650>Both of them have augmented eyes>None of them recorded the murderSuch a fucking plothole.
>>722416416I dont think he intended to kill them. The job was supposed to be his big comeback and this would ruin his reputation forever. He was also confident in his plan and it was supposed to be a victimless crime. He also hesitates giving you a bigger cut depending on your choices so he clearly intended to pay you after the job
>>722416642Poop scissors
>>722414113>>722414321if you have the right implants and you scan smasher he's alerted. i think takemura saw you but got distracted and iirc yorinobu told him to leave, and since he's a cuckmurai, he follows orders without a word or any hesitationadam smasher is an actual psychopath and doesn't actually give a shit about any of arasaka, he just works for them because of the weapons they give him access to. he probably wanted to see what would play out.
>>722417032Were you expecting a good story from something called cyberpunk? Would you expect something called sci-fi 9000 to be good?
>>722417032Arasaka would just say it was faked.Even a braindance can be edited. Even if in 2077 a simple recording would be compelling evidence Arasaka would fill the jury with simpletons on their payroll.Think of how corrupt the current judicial system is and amp it up a millionfold.Leak it online? Within minutes Arasaka shitpost experts have made memes of it where johnny silverhand is dabbing in the backround to muddy the waters.
>>722417376if something that focuses so hard on storytelling and muh deep story I would expect it to be decenthttps://youtu.be/UnA7tepsc7s>>722417032or record a BD.>you need an implant to do thatgood point, but I dont think the bodyguard from the Peralez questline had one. Also the psycho killer from the River questline apparently had one since childhood. And I doubt Rivers nephew who lives in a trailer could afford it either
>>722417567Couldve just given it to Regina and she would send it to all reliable medias and pirate networks. Maybe the public couldnt do much about it but Arasaka board members certainly could. It would change how the situation in NC evolves as Yorinobu used his death as an excuse to bring more soldiers into the city
>>722413650>The only reason Jackie couldn't make it is because he bleeds after the jump while V didn't
>>722418814If Delamain drove to a ripperdoc instead of the motel Jackie could've lived, actually.
>>722419105Delamain couldve just dropped him off along the way
>>722418258i feel like regina was supposed to have a bigger role in the story but she's just there
Is Phantom Liberty worth getting? I haven't played this game since release so I haven't experienced any changes they've introduced either
>>722419382for sure. She has 23 gigs while Dino has only 5. You also gotta talk to her during every cyberpsycho encounter and she is also in the Skippy questline
>>722419461If you generally liked the game on release, but just had some nitpicks about certain systems, Phantom Liberty is just more of that. The improvements to the systems like cyberware, clothing and whatnot are all in the base game regardless of if you own PL. PL doesn't represent a big shift but Dogtown is a fun area, and has some interesting quests.Some people seem to think it would be a major shift of the gameplay, but its not. Its just more 2077. So if you like 2077, yes, if you don't, no.
>>722419105Jackie died because he removed the relic. If he kept it it would reaninamte him like it did for V.
>>722419461as someone who has over 1000 hours in the base game I never finished PL.There is A LOT of standing around and just listening to exposition, Kurt Hansen feels like a cheap Far Cry villain, Dogtown is worse than the original Combat Zone (in the lore), Mr. Hands feels like a gay porn star rather than some shady corpo who went into hiding, main story is boring, Barghest look like Dying Light 2 enemies, new guns look cool but a bit too overstylized, the random airdrops are generated slopWith that said, the main missions have cool set pieces and actual choices this time. Gigs are the best part. They are amazing. This is what the original game shouldve been
>>722420403would it though? he died of blood loss, not bullet to the brain
>>722420403Jackie would bleed out anyway and die. The relic served as an extension of Vs physical brain. Thats why he can talk with Johnny because the chip and the brain kinda become one
>>722420770Relic releases nanomachines that can reconstruct any cell in the body including blood.
>>722420564>There is A LOT of standing around and just listening to expositionI suspect this has to do with a lot of the professionals who built the REDengine leaving, and all the new hires that CDPR brought in couldn't make sense of the engine for one reason or another.
>>722420403I actually wish there was an alternate timeline where Jacky keeps the chip and fuses with Johnny and V has to work for or against them.
>>722420853I think its just hack writersYou still have action set pieces like that jet crashing or the spider tank at the start so the game can handle it. But the vehicle combat... holy jank
>>722420835I doubt it can generate at fast enough rate to keep up with severed artery. Also, the nanomachines are there to rewire the brain and create new brain matter, not supply the whole body with blood (theres already multiple different cyberware for that)
>>722415223You're a fucking retard. The primary audience of CP2077
>>722415223He lets you go because he likes the hunt as much as he likes the kill. If he just opened up on the tv then yeah mission accomplished but Adam is sadist.
>>722421740It's supposed to revive a corpse where circulation stopped for hours.
>>722417032You have an actual cyberpsycho rampage on the street and slash some customers and guards to bits at a high end clothing store and even with footage on the web most people think it was faked for publicity.
>>722420564New gigs were awesome, yeah, but I doubt they could've put that kind of quality into every gig in the main game.
>>722416416That would be the most retarded plan ever, but it fits since Dex was a retard and all talk
>>722419835I assume it’s so you have more stuff to do pre-Heist
>>722422103I imagine "simply" restarting a body and releasing some stuff into the bloodstream to get the blood flowing again takes less cells than generating liters upon liters of new blood. And I guess its supposed to be inserted and overseen by professionals in a safe environment, not in the back of a cab. And in such environment you would have access to blood anyway. Remember the chip is a secret prototype. Adding blood generator into that tiny chip is just unnecessary especially when they are just figuring out how to even rewrite the brain
>>722415012That was patched, he's no longer hostile
>>722413650Could they have killed Yorinobu when he attacked his dad? Would Saburo have shown them mercy for saving him? Obviously they'd have to give up the relic, but maybe he'd let them live
>>722424582wrong
>>722424918More likely he shows mercy for a bit, so they're "detained" just long enough for an Arasaka execution squad to zero them. Why would he leave any loose ends hanging around?
>>722426003Well he does keep V as a loose end in the Devil ending if you don't sign the contract. Then again that V did kind of kill Adam Smasher and will die in a couple of months anyway, whereas heist era V is some retard gonk with delusions of grandeur
>>722424918>Saburo have shown them mercy for saving himAbsolutely not. This is a man who was so angry about how WWII ended that he spent multiple lifetimes planning economic enslavement of the west. The second V and Jackie thought they could take something from Arasaka they were dead.
why cant you fuck jackies girlfriend?
>>722426842she's mourning her soulmate.
>>722426003Loose ends for what? They were hired to find a thing, and nobody outside of the Arasaka team even knew what it was. The only reason they found out it was a legally questionable copy of Silverhand is because V slotted it then died. Had Jackie and V intervened, they would have just been two rando mercs who saved Saburo.
>>722424918Would you forgive some filthy gaijins, whom you hate with a passion, that just murdered your son? Even if they saved your life in the process.
>>722426189>Well he does keep V as a loose end in the Devil endingthis reminds me of what he said during Johnnys flashback>lying is not in dead peoples naturewhat if since hes an engram now, his psyche got a little altered and hes unable to lie or betray people or stuff like that anymore? Like the technology has its limitations and the engram kinda just says what it thinks
>>722427056V is an engram in any of the "alive" endings besides the PL one. So no.
>>722424918>Could this completely fictional scenario have played out within this poorly written game????? What if what if what if?!?!?
>>722427554You seem upset. Did you forget to take your HRT pills this morning?
>>722427554what if your faggot dad used a coat hanger on your whore mother to abort your tranny ass? we wouldn't be subjected to your useless posts
>>722427719Come on now sister, we can see you're a Cyberpunk 2077 fan, everybody knows you're trans. There's no reason to be ashamed
>>722415012>He just doesn't act for some reason.The reason is that he's a funny fucker, that's all. Willing to play his part for a bit of fun later down the road. It was likely very amusing for him.
>>722415012>He just doesn't act for some reason.If you read the earlier table top books, Adam Smasher is a psycho retard. He has an INT stat of 4 on a scale that goes from 2 (worst possible before modifiers) and 10 (best possible before modifiers). There are probably zero thoughts going through his head for his whole guard duty besides the last time he flattened a bus full of orphans.
>>722426862not my problem
>>722414113I always saw it as him prefering a chase and a hunt or he didn't care since he was in on what was about to happen somewhat.
>>722426726The only living man to get nuked 3 times by Americans. I think his anger is a little justified.
>>722427003Who were inside Konpecki plaza doing shit to Arasaka. Are you retarded? Not even in the real world would someone get away with that shit. At best they appear on TV as the saviors of Saburo then are quietly offed in a year for the audacity to be in his presence without his permission.What world do you live in?
