AI can now make pixel art indie games.It's over for agdg.
>>722451403It's funny that people genuinely don't believe AI will make games with 1 prompt someday
>>722451493Maybe in 100 years
>>722451403good morning sirs
>>722451532in like 1 year
>>722451403fuck ai slop
I still struggle to get it to prompt proper battlemaps with grids for ttrpgs. Anyone had any success with it yet? I’m assuming it’s my poor prompting skills or maybe a limitation of the image generators I’ve tried so far.
>>722451403>its over for agdgThey're making games rn and ur waiting for daddy LLM to be non retarded enough to do it for you. agdg wins this round
>>722451543>indie gamesThey literally say they're jeet made in the description.
>>722451403No it can't. It can visually rip off 20 other games and make a short video mimicking gameplay. A video isn't a game. Its just a moving bullshot
>>722451680He’ll actually now that I think about I don’t even need the grids part. So long as it can generate from that Birds Eye view even
>>722451726>They're making games rndebatable
>>722451680Semi-unrelated, but if you need maps, check https://kemono.cr/patreon/user/66683121
>>722451403>first AI can do musichttps://files.catbox.moe/7wzgvu.mp3>next AI can do pixel artpicrel>now AI can do pixel art indie gamesI'm not sure whether to be happy or threatened.
>>722451403TIME TO APPLY AT COSTCO
>>722452383That's literally just Call of Duty Zombies.
NNNOOOOOOOO I WAS SUPPOSED TO BECOME THE NEXT CONCERNEDAPE, THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING TO ME
>AI now has the power to copy indie games from the early 00sTechnology sure is amazing.
@grok what is the cheapest suicide method
you now remember pic rel being everywhere for several weeks only to vanish off the face of the earth.
>>722451403it's not a game, it's a video of a gamethere's a big difference between the two but if you're the kind of indian who willingly injests AI slop I suppose you wouldn't know
>>722452383>>722452446>>722452515>no actual gameplay>just walkingWell, it got the indie part right.
It's over.
>>722451532You were off by 100 years, as you can literally do that right now. They're just shit games, like a browser based flappy bird clone.
>>722451570Lmao llm's have already peaked. The easy gains are gone and advancement is gonna be hard fought. AGI never ever.
>>722451403Why do people still fail to understand that it doesn't matter how much they improve AI to the point it can do a 1:1 or better version of the original? What matters it's the human creativity behind the work. It doesn't matter if it's the worst video game in the world, the worst book in the world, the worst movie in world... If someone who exists in this world created that, it's already better than AI.
>>722452634the fact you think you need something like agi to make a game is hilarious
>>722452523yeah that was utter retardation. jeets still unionically reposted it in this very thread though>two more weeks and y-you'll see!!yeah good luck with that. your glorified chatbot already plateau'd lmao
>>722452757This is not an understanding you have, it's an irrational belief.
>>722452774whats funny is some dev showed up claiming he would make it into a real game only to scam people via gofundme and then ran with the money
>>722452742>>722452652>>722452585>>722452515>>722452446>>722452383i can believe these got GOTY 2025
>>722452840>grifters attracts grifterswaow
>>722451570You said that last year
>>722451403you say that as if pixel art indie games are good. they are not
>>722452925yes saar they are win competition very much
>>722452446nice static lightning strike bud
>>722452765I never said that.
>>722452009That's not PIXEL ART YOU TASTELESS NEANDERTHAL. THERES NO UNIFORM PIXEL GRID OR LIMITED PALETTE.THAT'S JUST A NORMAL GEN BUT THE EDGES SUCK HALF OF THE TIMEJUST GEN THAT SHIT NORMALLY IT WILL LOOK BETTER.
>>722453182seething autist
>>722452523Because people tried to make it into a game and quickly realized they were just remaking Daggerfall and they lost interest because daggerfall isn't going to get them any social media clout.AI is entirely optimized for generating short videos for social media that give midwits band venture capitalists something to be impressed by, but which instantly crumbles into dust in your hands as soon as you try to use it for anything real. Faggots will keep chasing these mirages for the next few years before realizing its a dead end.
>>722453217YES, BUT I'M STILL OBJECTIVELY CORRECT AND YOU ARE A BLIND RETARD IF YOU CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS IMAGE AND >>722453182
All I ever see are video simulations of what the supposed game will look like, but nothing actually playable. Where can I play this supposed AI made game?
>It's over for agdg.It’s been over for those losers before they even started.
>>722453251>AI is entirely optimized for generating short videos for social media that give midwits band venture capitalists something to be impressed by, but which instantly crumbles into dust in your hands as soon as you try to use it for anything realmy company has been trying and failing to integrate AI for like 2 years now. We have a dude on payroll just to make this shit do anything useful and every time without fail the AI integration would shit the bed. They even tried to make it mandatory to use AI for our tasks with the threat of losing good boy points when the soulless suits would go to judge you at the end of year review.
>>722452383welcome to Costcoi love you
>>722453251yep. the hype for the chatbot 2.0 tech is reminiscent of the nft craze and its bubble will pop just as violently
>>722453408sour grapes
>>722451493I'll believe it. But that game will never be played, even by the person that prompts it. The scene will turn into prolific prompters just shitting out endless content that everyone will ignore
>>722453038That's the Erdtree dumbass
>>722451403>Press [nv] Legendary from to Drowned Vaults.
>>722453638you've internalized ai hallucinations anon? it does not look like a tree at all
>>722451767so an indie game?
>>722452009ngl, love the tune.
>>722453572more likelow hanging fruit
>>722453769yeah bro all indie games are not actually playable and are all just 5-10s videos
>>722453340pixel art vs high def pixel art aka. modern spriteworkboth are good, there's no problem here.
Are there any examples of AI being really leveraged for a game? I've wanted to make games and can program a bit, but can't do any of the other stuff like art, writing or music.
Let me know when it makes something I would actually want to pay money for.
>>722453892the most famous example is bungie's new extraction shooter using AI to gen assets only for them to get caught plagerizing people 5 seperate times since it kept the artist's watermark in
>>722453482My work is also doing this, but they use it for summarizing documents and that seems to work ok but it's a very marginal improvement over what we had and you could probably just pay a bunch of thirdies to do the same thing for roughly the same cost as the tokens, infrastructure and dedicated dev required to wrangle the AI into doing its job properly
but the game is slop and looks like spit
>>722453875That is NOT what any of that means holy shit stop making up cope definitions. You are either too young or too brown to know what a fucking pixel is and how working with a limited grid affects that.
AI can't even generate a passable image of prime Avril Lavigne getting her feet tickled and people think it's gonna make games, lmao.
>>722451403Buy an ad faggot
>>722452383>>722452515>>722452523Show a video of it handling rotation.
>>722454028holy mad autist. lmao.
>>722454036it probably canhttps://files.catbox.moe/hsr66y.mp4
>>722453892Retards on /agdg/ claim to be using it, but when asked to show their game they start acting coy and refusing to show it. So I can only imagine they're not really making a game. cris shows his AI progress where he's generated 256 loli waifus each of a different race/ethnicity... but again it's just a bunch of images and there's no actual game and cris is notoriously retarded and incapable of making anything good so him using it should give any AI fag pause if they had a single ounce of self-awareness.
>its all vertical phone dimensionsEvery day i'm reminded how much better this site, and the entire internet, would be if all phones and phoneposters were removed.
>>722451680Maybe using something that has a clear grid imposed over the noise as your latent image will help steer it.
>>722454243and thirdworlders
>>722454316>and phonepostersYes, I already said that
>>722451403>>722451493Okay but these games look like shitWhy would I play an AI game unless I was a soulless bugman that only needs jingling keys-like stimuli to be entertainedThe one use I could possibly see for this is to mod already-existing games with whatever you want
>>722454364Thirdies can be IP rangebanned for an easy win, mobileniggers can always get in, taking away the mobile version won't stop someone making a browser extension that brings it back
>AI CAN MAKE GAMES>AI CAN MAKE PAINTINGS>AI CAN MAKE MOVIESyeah so can humans big fucking woop
>>722454520There's apps. When I'm on the can (I have a toilet, saar) or in bed, I use Read Chan.
>>722454520>taking away the mobile version won't stop someone making a browser extension that brings it backYou're correct, but ironically it's those people who are more likely to still actually contribute. Think about it, how often do you see dogshit screenshot-of-a-screenshot-of-a-twitter-repost shitfests that are actually using a dedicated mobile client and not just the normal web browser view? Hell, iToddlers can't even use those clients in the first place.
I have been making pixel art for games for 4 years, it looks good but it seems the AI is having trouble creating monsters or smaller shapes, and just mish mashes together and hopes that it looks good.Also the animation of the assets looks unpolished, it's basically one frame looped over and over
>>722451570you ever heard of diminishing returns, nigga?AI will not keep scaling rapidly, it will slow and slow, limited by technology
>>722454926debunked
>>722454981good morning sir
>>722454926>AI will not keep scaling rapidly,it hasn't stopped
>>722451403good, fuck this genre of game.
I wish AI healthcare research would receive as much money from every country as military spending. I am certain we could cure every disease and become immortals in my shitty lifetime instead of my body trying to slowly kill me.
>>722451403>AI can now make pixel art indie games.Post an example then
>>722452757>What matters it's the human creativity behind the work.what if someone uses creativity to design AI prompts to create a final product according to his vision?someone using AI to create something genuinely good through clever use of prompts and retouching the outputs could (in theory) produce amazing works of art.
I keep seeing shit about AI making games but I have yet to see an actual AI made full game beyond some art assets for it.
>>722452585>running with a knife
>>722456082>not running with a knife
>agdg>the ag stands for AI-Generated Sounds about right.
>>722456082running with a knife out makes you go faster
>>722451403This is a video.
>>722451403
>>722457284I'm sorry AI isn't helping you flip burgers, every software industry already uses it heavily
>>722454606>humans can make gamesdebatable
>>722451493Mobile trash? Sure. But how much are expecting to type in this single prompt for a game like Path of Exile? I used to shit on people who went into game design (I still do lol), but the majority of people here may think they have the ideas but zero experience on executing any of it and would ultimately end up with slop even without AI.
>>722457429>uses it heavily>>722453482>>722453990Without AI how are we going to vibecode a whole new class of retarded security vulnerabilities into our software?
>>722457284you should look up ai protein folding. you'd be surprised to learn it's been extremely effective.
>>722452383>>722452446>>722452515>>722452585>>722452652>>722452742AI or not a game managing to actually make this look work would be cool as hell.
>>722457812that's just daggerfall, a game that already exists >>722453251
>>722457949That looks like shit. Again, something that actually pulls the look in those webms off. Dunno how feasible that would be.
>>722451493AI will make games with 1 prompt somedayAI will never make a good game with 1 prompt
>>722456082>running with knives, developers of the mail series
>>722458154>puts "make it a good game" in the prompt
>>722458057>Noooooo! Not like that! Like in the videos! I just want to walk forward in a straight line into an immaculately rendered pixelart world! I want the AI to show me something that can be real! Not just fake bullshit that impresses retards! Nooooo!
>>722458154it will
>>722458057>Daggerfall but reskinnedYou're too retarded to exist
>>722458334God damn, shut the fuck up. You know what he means. Not even the anon you're replying to.
https://x.com/ProperPrompter/status/1974500136635007379
>>722458334>Noooooo!>schizoEvery time.
>>722458057It's doable, even running it on a SNES is possible, the game would likely require more storage however.However it would be "on-rails", meaning you can't move away from the path. Otherwise you're forced to do 3d graphics, and it would be something like Doom.
>>722451403>Make a video of a shitty looking mobile game like Zenonia from 15 years ago>Claim it's a video game
>>722451532As a 35 year old man, watching the cell phone go from a big ass bag piece of shit thing, to the marvelous piece of technology it is today.And you watch this fucking retards act like "technology doesnt get better" with respect to AI conversations...And I realize one thing: we are surrounded by the stupidest people who have ever lived, and there's nothing we can do to fix it.
>>722458748>$200 more trillion
>>722458367The problem is when you turn left or right it becomes extremely obvious that you're surrounded by billboard sprites of trees. The Daggerfall video posted earlier is doing what the AI videos did, walk straight and it looks kinda alright, and like it could be improved with modern tech. But then you turn the camera and everything goes to complete shit and in order to solve that you'll end up just making a 3d game. Maybe you'll make it low-poly, or add pixelart shader overlays, but still you're not really doing what the AI video did, you're just making a PS1 era game at that point. You have to somehow make every object in the world look like a hand-drawn piece of pixelart from every angle and in motion, and getting AI to do that is going to be like having a psychotic episode with all the hallucinations and inconsistencies, not to mention the token cost.
>>722451403i'm not anti this current thing, but at the same time who fucking cares, all you're getting as an end user of this sort of thing will be slopendless slop you can eat up like the little piggy you are
>>722457741Why would women whore themselve with all those shit to check in case of fucking dying ?
>>722451403This isn't pixel art.it's mixed resolution and nothing has a proper pallet. it uses 100000 colours.
>>722458952women are retarded
>>722457741so this example of it being used supports your argument that it's not getting used? Do you have brain damage?>b-but it was bad code!made by someone who doesn't even know how to code at all. Without AI there would be no "Tea" in the first place.
>>722459416>so this example of it being used supports your argument that it's not getting used? I quoted two people from this thread who said it's being used, I didn't deny that it's being used. It's just being used for marginal automation of some tasks and bullshit performative solutionism driven by executives who have massive fomo. It's not revolutionary and it's not being "heavily used" and anyone who does "heavily use" it to vibe code an entire app creates a massive liability and risks global coverage of their catastrophic downfall like Tea did. >Without AI there would be no "Tea" in the first place.I don't think Tea does exist now. If the jew who vibe coded tea to save a few sheikels had hired a dev who knew what he was doing then it might still exist because an elementary beginner-level mistake wouldn't have sunk the whole enterprise.
>>722456668Only if you hold it upside down.
>>722459996>hired a dev who knew what he was doinga dev that is also going to use AI assistance? Even something like co-pilot's autocomplete saves a ton of time, it's very rare to find a programmer who doesn't use AI at all, you honestly have no idea what you're talking about.And yes it has completely replaced google, as if that's some small feat.
>>722460646>a dev that is also going to use AI assistance?AI is only useful as a tool if you already have the skills and knowledge to catch when it makes mistakes. >it's very rare to find a programmer who doesn't use AI at all, you honestly have no idea what you're talking about.I'm a professional software developer so I know how it's being used. Instead of blindly copypasting code from stackoverflow people blindly copypaste code from their AI of choice, which was trained using data from stackoverflow. There's one more anus in the human centepede of dogshit low-effort code. Nothing has fundamentally changed in how professionals work, now we have access to a slightly different search tool or a slightly better code completion in our IDEs that occasionally just straight-up lies to us or hardcodes in security holes that can't be fixed by updating your app's dependencies... Wow amazing I can feel the technological singularity happening! I'd be interested to see the long term effects and how junior devs who rely on it as beginners develop in their skills and careers but I suspect that they're just going to become dependent on the tool rather than being better or faster or more knowledgeable than non AI assisted devsAI allows beginners to achieve a semi-passable level results that are better than what they could do on their own quickly. This impresses themselves because they're beginners, but it doesn't take them much further than that. And why would it? An AI can only ever be as good as the average of its training data, it's not able to be exceptional, and if you depend on it neither are you.
The ai bottle is open and is never gonna close. However we are VERY VERY VERY far from writing a prompt and a fully functional game coming out the other end. However Art/Music/Voice Acting is pretty much an even more dead job market than it ever was before.
>>722451403looks like ass
>>722462026Wow it's disheartening to see the most insightful perspective on the use of predictive algorithms in coding on fucking /v/ of all places
>>722451493Will it make the game 100% the way I want it to be made in 1/1000th of the time as if I did all the dev work myself or will it be a randomized slot machine of things that the ai kinda think go together?
AI has done nothing but kill my enthusiasm to break into hobbies and improve myself. why even bother if it will take thousands of hours for me to get close to sort of having a back and forth with ai rather than it just thinking for me.
>>722462209>However Art/Music/Voice Acting is pretty much an even more dead job market than it ever was before.I've been hearing this for the past few years but it seems more like people are just ignoring AI spam than it actually replacing things beyond big corporations wanting to act like it's the biggest newest thing ever.
>>722452515>literally said "holy kino" out loudHmm
>>722462460because you want toif you don't want to why are you whining
>>722453892Pixel art loras exist which seem good for doing animations with. I think voice gen is legitimate for random npc dialogue. Music gen is good to go
>>722462695I think you could make a solid porn game using WAN.
>>722462695yes, this qwen lora is pretty impressive: https://civitai.com/models/1938784/2dhd-pixel-art-octopath-stylecombine that with wan 2.2 and you can do good stuff
>>722462353I don't come here often.>>722462460>why even bother if it will take thousands of hours for me to get close to sort of having a back and forth with ai rather than it just thinking for me.Because the goal isn't to have a back and forth with AI, the goal is to participate in creation, and if you have the urge to get into a creative hobby you should do it. The time will pass anyway and in another year you'll have wish you'd started now. Secondly I think if you let AI think for you then you'll never improve, all growth comes from discomfort and struggle, wandering the desert and finding your way out again. If you simply learn your hobby without using AI then you'll improve far faster and have a far higher skill ceiling than all the midwits who got average fast with AI and then stayed there forever because they don't know how to ween themselves off the AI teat and stand on their own two feet.Discouraging people from even trying is the biggest of AI's many crimes.
>>722462026>An AI can only ever be as good as the average of its training data, it's not able to be exceptional, and if you depend on it neither are you.Fundamentally wrong because there are random factors involved. It can be better or worse than the average.
>>722458334>I just want to walk forward in a straight line into an immaculately rendered pixelart world! I want the AI to show me something that can be real! Not just fake bullshit that impresses retards! Nooooo!I say things like this and also I look like that picture that you posted.
>>722463839Right... So on average it ends up being average. Amazing.
>>722464062Another unfortunate retard
>>722464189Ask chatgpt to explain averages to you
Indieslop devs are so fucking cooked, and you can tell AI is threatening the fuck out of a lot of faggots ITT
>>722451782making games doesn't necessarily mean a game will ever be made
>>722453892Im using it on my SRPG for character portraits
>>722451493Yes this. 1prooompt for game and you'll get shitty trash mobile slop, always. Because that's what people will use it for. And then everyone will loathe these AIslop games because they're everywhere
>>722464536>An AI can only ever be as good as the average of its training dataThis statement is wrong and I explained how. There is an average of the training data but the exports are not imitations of that average. It's anything below, and theoretically anything above that average. Whatever that means to a person subjectively.You are yet another unfortunate retard.
>>722451532reckon like 20
>>722453408there has been multiple giga successful games that come from agdg
>>722464713I'm gong to organize a reviewbombing campaign for your game because you used AI and took food out of the mouth of some libshit tranny artist that you could have commissioned for hundreds of dollars and then got ghosted by after 3 weeks of radio silence.Shame on you
>>722464721>train model on artist>do 1prompt>get art that looks like the artist made it, always>train model on game>do 1prompt>get game that is like game trained on, always
>>722455743we are witnessing the death of creative intent and you do not yet see it.
>>722464721>And then everyone will loathe these AIslop games because they're everywhereJust like everything made by AI. Once people can spam it ad nauseam, everyone else is gonna get sick of it real quick and go back to human made stuff.
>>722451493They do believe it, that's why they seethe so hard over it. Thy just don't want to admit it.
>>722464713I'm an SRPG fan, so that's exciting to hear. I think just genning still images would be the easiest part though. What about all of the actual characters on the battlefield and animations and such, has AI gotten good enough to do stuff like that?
>>722464997yea
>>722451493so if i tell ai to make 100 sentences every second and then put those sentences into another ai that turns the sentence into a game, then we will have infinite games saar. what a hot bhabit future...
>>722452383This unironically looks cool and anyone who says otherwise is fucking lying.
>>722465229>52 million viewsmany were seethinghttps://x.com/de5imulate/status/1947024682118488116
>>722465229Yes, but looking cool is all it does.
>>722452757I disagree. I could not care less who or what created it as long as it is good.
>>722457741vibehackers rise up
>>722451403I don't even play games that look like that from people, why would I do so from AI?
>>722465430ok
>>722451403Soon indie games will be called India games if Ai generated games take over
>>722451493I believe it, but will anyone play themIt will be the birth of the Indian game industry for one, and literally trillions of low effort garbage games.
>>722452757Because half of /v/ are soulless Indians that don't even enjoy video games or appreciate the effort by the HUMANS behind them
Good Morning Sirs!
I think AI is nothing and never will be anything because it had any value you would see it by now.All that AI has to offer are pyramid scheme grifts where one guy tries to sell his prompts to an even dumber person while also paying for a model who in turn pays ChatGPT for their servers who in turn pays Nvidia for hardware.
>>722465834>If I pretend there is no value there isn't anyschizo loser
>>722457429>uses it heavilyTries to implement it maybe, there are zero industries which have benefited from AI aside from selling THEIR AI tool to someone else.I’ve seen people (idiots/indians) compare AI to the personal computer, as it was also doubted upon release.The difference is Computers already had a massive use case and making one which you could actually take home or to your office and not be part of a mainframe was a massive but ultimately incremental change. Besides there was a big hobbyist market who immediately started producing valuable stuff with PCs like early commercial software and hardware.As for AI, what has there actually been? Porn? Cheating at school? Making your online spam-bots more annoying?
>>722453251A daggerfall-esque game made with modern hardware would still be pretty cool, sucks it was abandoned. It's not like retro style games are not insanely popular right now
>>722462209I think it’s going to be forgotten in a couple years.Chatbots are just not revolutionary technology and not real AI VR is forgotten and it’s unironically far more useful and innovative.I think we will see fully immersive VR games long before anything valuable from AI
>>722466596you are retarded on so many levels
>>722466701>WAAAA WAAAAAAAA
>>722466001Goodmorning Sir!There is no value.The value is in finding a dumber guy to hawk your shit to.At the bottom are Indians like you who desperately try to scrape a few rupees together from your Ghibli piss filter porn
>>722466701Name one thing produced as a result of AI that can justify the investment in it?Students cheating maybe? That just devalues an entire generation of degrees.
>>722451403>It's over for agdg.and thank god for thatnow if we can just get rid of all devs and put them in homeless camps to get raped by crackheads, then finally this hobby can die in peace
>>722466817Took me 0.5 seconds on GPT.Next one please?One clear and justifiable result of AI investment is medical imaging diagnostics—specifically, AI systems that detect diseases like cancer from scans (e.g., mammograms, CTs, MRIs) with accuracy on par with or better than expert radiologists.For example:AI models can detect breast cancer in mammograms earlier and with fewer false positives, reducing unnecessary biopsies and improving survival rates.This leads to faster, cheaper, and more accurate diagnoses, particularly in under-resourced healthcare settings.
>>722466596Literally all they have to do for it to start replacing workers en masse with no going back is solve hallucinations.
>>722462460>>722463546why do people train to climb mountains or run marathons when cars and helicopters exist? because it's about building up yourself and proving to yourself that you're capable of doing what you put your mind toplus tell someone you ran a marathon and theyre impressed, tell someone they drove that length in a car and they'll go "ok" even though the result is the exact same
>>722467139>can’t even think of a response on his own“Can do X”“Could do Y”Where are they ACTUALLY doing this? How many hospitals? PCs immediately blew up because the value was obvious and even with insane prices in the 80’s people bought them.
So what is it that you DONT want to do, and what you want to do because the AI is handling the rest? Dialogue writing? Graphic Design? UI? Artwork and 3D models/sprite work? Programming? Music and sound effects? Even if you somehow prompted a significant output of anything listed above, it’ll still take months of playtesting to make the thing playable. What makes you think video games are a linear creation? You’re going to eventually hit a point where you have to have some expertise in a hard skill that you can’t GEN out of.
>>722467165>literally all the have to do is make it actually work. >>722467337A car has a clear advantage over a human however so it’s rational to see how they proliferated. AI? AI art just sucks and even the porn is trash. The only people who “benefit” from it are Indian spammers on Youtube who mass produce AI garbage.
>>722466817There are literally over 10,000 games on Steam that used AI in development.
>You will let the datacenter scrape your data>You will let the datacenter consume twice your city's power output>You will let the datacenter dump it's toxic waste in your community>You will pay an increase in the electricity bill>You will pay an increase in the fresh water bill>You will pay for their lobbied subsidizes in taxes>You will pay for them to make every aspect of the internet worse
>>722467517AI makes art better than 99% of artists and it does it like 1 million times faster.
>>722467668NTA but like...so? even if that were true, what does it matter?
>>722467750>A car has a clear advantage over a human howeverJust like AI.
>>722467569Name 1
>>722467892when why didn't cars replace walking retard
>>722467668>faster>betterWho cares? It sucks AI porn is unfappable and garbageAI art just lets me know the “artist” should be marked as ignore to avoid my feed being spammed.
>>722467892The advantage AI has is it has zero barrier to entry, but all that means is there can be more and faster spam.This isn’t really an advantage and it just means I need to filter through more trash.
Notice it has been years of AI sloppers posting the same fucking 5 second videos with nothing substantial backing it up. It's a scam and it's designed to swindle dumb investors. You will never get a real game.
>>722451532Try more like 10 max.
>>722468076They did you retarded europoor.>>722468107>>722468175>muh feewingsluddite cope
>>722468236It’s no different from the Amway tools scam.“Buy our tool to help you sell X product (which you also pay for)”All that ends up happening is idiots selling down the line to other idiots hoping to make a few bucks from their prompts.Eventually you end up at the ass end of it which is Jeets spamming absolutely everywhere.Only one making money is Nvidia and a handful of elites in the pyramid.
>>722468352>They did you retarded europoor.you're driving your car around your house? clearly you must be, since it's superior to walking like you said
even if AIjeets got their wish and could proooompt fully fleshed out videogames, they would not own the rights to it and be able to sell it commercially
>>722451493I not sure I can describe the game that I want in a single prompt, nor am I really interested in endlessly just describing a game and getting exactly that with no surprises.
>>722468475yes they would
>>722468352Art is all about feelings and I feel like I don’t care about AI art because it sucks.What’s the value proposition there? Who’s the end user/consumer? I’m a Luddite because I don’t want to waste my time and money on your garbage?I only care about technology that is actually useful to me and has interesting potential.I’m a big VR fan for that reason, I can see the long term value there because it does something nothing else can even if the price is high and the tech is limited now.
>>722468236Any sort of truly impressive improvements in AI are going to be relegated to stuff like surveillance/military applications anyway. The webm and anime tiddy sloppa is the best the public will get.
>>722458745Retards and children just can't process that tech advances exponentially because their advancements weren't visible.For us we've gone from rotary phones to smart phones, from DOS machines to laptops and tablets. For them, they're going from traditional computing to quantum computing, from language models to neural AI. Their advancements are technically more significant and greater than ours, but they don't see theirs so they always think tech is just the worst implementation of it. One day he's gonna have this exact same conversation with kids that you're having with him, after he's lived through an epochal shift due to a tech advancement like we did.
>>722468509no, that intellectual property belongs to the company that made the AI and/or whatever copyrighted material the AI stole fromyou really think you're getting all that shit for free lil gup?
NPC thread
>>722468475Who would buy it? Who buys the thousands of asset flip crap they post currently? Even fewer will buy the millions of promptslop games.
>>722468561Both quantum computing and AI are fake and gay marketing buzzwords. Maybe do more than watch “tiktok science” clips Ranjeet.
>>722452652>>722452742Why do they insist in focusing on "AI MAKE GAEM IN ONE BUTTON PRESS LOOK AT THIS VIDEO" instead of focusing on the asset creation aspect which has more potential of actually working?It looks passable enough, if you could implement these graphics into a decent daggerfall clone then it has potential of being an OK game.
>>722468496>I not sure I can describe the game that I want in a single promptthen you must be a fucking retard. these are just some random examples of games someone would find fun.>mario kart with one piece characters>a ps1 style final fantasy game>some shmup set in an established universe you like>call of duty with anime girls and gore>a porn game starring your mother>dark souls 4>-game you like but in different setting- ie GTA steampunkfucking dumbass>>722468582wrong and you can make your own AI
>>722468667>fake buzzwordmeanwhile i already used AI to write a bunch of scripts i have no idea how and to fix my monitor
>>722468669whoa that requires work. rajesh has no time for that.
>>722468669>potential>could be >might be>in the future it possibly willThe AI mantra
>>722468236>Notice it has been years of AI sloppers posting the same fucking 5 second videos with nothing substantial backing it up.No, because it's not true because 5 years ago the best video generation could create is swirls of eyes as nightmare fuel, but you go off queen.
>>722452383that looks fucking nauseatingAI is 100% an ideas-guy technology
>>722468669"they" are doing both>>722468750>that looks fucking nauseatingonly because you think it looks good and it's making you, a human who will never compete, look bad
>>722468731oh ok so its google but worse
>>722468667Ad hominim is not an argument.
>>722468724>no trust me bro, by typing in this one sentence, a game worth playing will be generated, please ignore the thousands of examples of AI games that have 0 substance or thought put into them
>>722468737And you're still posting 5 second videos years later. Where's the fucking AI movies? The AI TV shows? The AI videogames? The AI /v/ - Video Games board?WHERE IS IT FAGGOT?
>>722468808google but much much better
>>722468813You’e not made a single argument anyway because you’re a promptjeet
>>722468827you can generate videos and images that are like that with simple prompts, one day games will be generated too
>>722468737eh years ago people were posting kanye west eating spaghetti as a horrible flesh monster, now whenever it gets posted it still has all the object permanence problems and inaccuracy of kanye's facial features going on but it's LESS nightmarish so just two more weeks
>>722468808It's better than stackoverflow in my experience
>>722468851https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDHteSYnN0Qhttps://x.com/signulll/status/1973794002362077639
>>722468669Why do you retards insist on using this language?Stop larping like you know how it works or what it can do when you clearly don't want it to succeed so you keep larping some kind of expert. It all works, you fucking faggot. It just needs iterative progress for practical implementation. Which is what advancement does. Keep burying your hand in sand, see if I give a fuck, whether you're a tranny dev or just sucking one's dick you'll be obsolete in a decade all the same.
>IT'S OVER>TIME TO ROPE >WAGIE TIMEHoly cringe, why are AIfags like this? There's always resentment behind their posts.
>>722468872and not a single one of those videos or images actually has thought behind it and is worth viewing, it's just an imitation of something else>"it's like [already existing property] but ___!"
>When I can make a videogame with a single prompt I will become a millionaire because my videogame ideas are the best. Surely I won't be competing with billions of other jeets doing the same exact thing churning out the same AI slop... no... not me! I will be the chosen one!
>>722468851In like a few years games went from wireframes to full colour spites and open worldsIt’s been YEARS now that “functional” AI has been around, there is the ONE big thing for end users or consumers?Like 3 years of people just goofing around with it and using it as an excuse to be lazy in their work?
>>722468870>You’eThe irony of this cucklord calling someone else a Ranjeet.
>>722468995keep crying
>>722468669AI slop is all about cutting costs and reducing human jobs>AI artEntry level artists job>AI gamesLiterally all game devsThey will literally never stop, as long as it's more profitable (short-term) to cut costsInstead of vertical slices, it will be just procgenning game with Sony template
>>722468938Wow you sure fucking showed me.
>>722468975I mean if AI is so great what’s to stop literally everyone from using it, simultaneously making talentless promptjeets obsolete. Indians love AI because it’s like having a simulation of a White Man’s brain at their disposal.
>>722464713What kind of SRPG are you making? Inspired by anything in particular?
>>722469063good job coming up with a proper argument against my point, especially since every single example here >>722468724 is just "it's [existing product] but ___"
>>722468975same shit as crypto and NFT>ADOPT IT OR BE LEFT BEHIND YOU STUPID FUCKING PIGSlong sustained crash-out over a tech not catching on, bonus points for AI both being a misnomer and having objective negative effects on the environment and electricity access for lower income areas
The last person holding the bag will be the owner of AI technology that is so resource heavy it will be regulated to hell and back by the government, who will also be restricting how it can be used ,rendering it useless.
>>722469164Yea where are all the Moonboys now and their Apes?
>>722469162>people don't want to play existing products :((((nice argument
>>722469007I see a butthurt post but no product. Where's your fucking product?
>>722468236How you people can huff copium this hard with how insanely fast it's progressed is beyond me. You retards are always in here screeching precisely because you recognize it as a threat . At least be fucking honest, few things worse than a dumbass trying to desperately deceive themselves.
>>722469164>what is visa and mastercard banning pornstupid coinlet, you will be censored and will only be allowed to spend your wagie fake paper money in stuff globohomo allows you, little cuk
>>722469446progressed? what fucking progressed? you just jingle a different set of keys every fucking time. where's your fucking game dude?
>>722469213apes went extinct, cryptobros double-timed into AI shills since crypto itself is still viable as ponzi schemes and investment scams
>>722468236Image recognition is actually insane and you're a luddite retard if you think that isn't damn impressive.I gave a model pic related and it accurately guessed the context based of his expression alone. And no, it didn't just reverse image search to find the source.
>>722469584> you just jingle a different set of keys every fucking time.The irony.The goalpost is ever moving. AI will make a game and you'll slide that goalpost to something else.
>>722469740that's a search engine you fucking ape>>722469758you will never post a videogame
>>722469740it guessed it based on similarity to other images anon-dokoit's just akinator, as in very literally it's the same underlying technology
>>722465229I know, I want some fucking low graphics ElderScrollslikes, nobody will deliver, so if AI or extraterrestrial aliens do it so be it. Poopskin aliens had their chance and only made cringe. Now it's time to for them lose their jobs and kill themselves.
>>722469820>>722469839no you fucking retards I didn't ask it to search for the sourceI asked it to explain what expression the character is making and it was accurate to the context it was in the actual sourcejesus christ you anti-ai idiots can't even read
>>722469923that's a FUCKING SEARCH ENGINEKILL YOURSELF RETARD
>>722469740>the ai could guess the context from this imageok but literally who caresare you gonna be taking pictures from movies and going "hey chatgpt guess what happens in this scene" in your free time or something
>>722469965>facial expression recognition is a search engineI rest my case
>>722469923that's what i meant anon it's akinatorit's spitting out tags based on image-similarity
>>722470006>facial expression recognition is a search engineyes?????? literally???????? are you fucking braindead?
>>722469820I remember when you fags were saying that about hands.
Is this good?
Ripping source code or using templates has been a thing since forever and yet no one gave this much of a shit.
>>722470102Yes because anyone who fell for the AI meme deserves to be broke and homeless
>>722451680I have had no success with it, this is because I make my battlemaps myself.Also, could you not just prompt it to not have a grid, then just overlay your own grid on top of it? Seems easier.
>>722469740It's really scary that we live among "people" that don't understand how insane LLMs that can hear, see, draw, and write better than most humans.
>>722470102it is REALLY not good, when it crashes it's gonna make 2008 look like a fucking joke, great depression level bubble bursting with no safety-net
>>722458748why do you need freshwater for cooling. how stupid>the salt builds up or some shitwho the fuck cares, make it work with saltwater you retard, the ocean is frigid
>>722462460ROFL anon AI hasn't created a single valuable thing yet. Literally. Trillions of dollars down the drain and it hasn't created a single notable film or movie or song or book or piece of art. To say nothing of the world at large. It's a Jewish psyop.The world has ONLY GOTTEN WORSE since AI came into existence. Start doing your hobby.
>>722470301It literally already at least created AI Dungeon and they had to neuter it and shut it down for it to fail.
>>722470356That does not refute anything I said.
>Pay an artist to draw a lineart picture (the cheapest one)>Colour and shade with AIHAHA I WIN FAGGOTS
>>722451403Still not buying your prompt
The issue AI fags aren't realising is just how much goes into a game.AI would need to keep consistent>Models along with rigging and animation>Music>story>characters>CODE - very importantAmong many other aspects. AI struggles to generate the same art constantly, cannot make competent code>struggles to write stories organicallyBut here's the thing.1. It will need to generate EVERYTHING, all files, into a compilable format that users can runThis means that unless everything is done properly you can't just patch the game each time2. Do you understand how long it will take to generate the entire game? Do you understand how much content is involved in game dev?Your third world pc will be burned to a crisp or take weeks if not months on end compiling it and God help you if there's a single hiccup during that whole process. The "games" you posted aren't playable, they're videos. The actual thing you're talking about will not be possible. Not because AI can't improve but because of how it works. Any bugs or issues will break the game and you won't be able to patch it since AI will rewrite the entire game in full to make the "patch" and will only further break it.You say the clock is ticking but every aspect of AI is imperfect. It can't rewrite code perfectly, can't think beyond itself for inter-connected aspects across scripts. It'll need to compile everything into an engine. I will admit it can be used for various assisting functions but it can't be used for a full game just from one prompt. You're looking 20+ years into the future.
>>722470401>AI based service has commercial service that people are willing to pay for>"AI hasn't created a single valuable thing yet"Ok, communist.
>>722470102Two more weeks.Meanwhile I've made a fortune.
>>722470424>>Pay an artistretard
>>722469000>They will be the next Kojima ai-director fucking tight jap pussyLuddite bros.. it's over...
>>722470523if it can do consistent video it can do consistent code
>>722470663let's see it then
>>722451403I'm no dev or programmer but I feel like there is a huge gap between creating a short clip of a potential video game and actually creating a playable version of that same concept
>>722470102If it wasn't for the AI sector, we would be in a recession. One worse than 2008.
>>722470579I don't really consider a subclass of gooners who want a mindless ERP machine "people," but you do you anon.
>>722470663>it can do consistent codeIt struggle to do consistent functions across TWO requests>Make function that does X>Makes function but doesn't do X>Here is the issue with the current function and how it won't do X.>Makes a totally new function nothing like the other instead of fixing the existing oneAnd note that for each bug or error you'll need to deal with this EVERY SINGLE TIME. So for each fuck up you'll need to recompile your ENTIRE GAME rather than being able to segment it and only modify the selected file.
>>722451403It's not a game it's a video retard.
>>722470785Well yes, this video is from 8 months agohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySqLAayNmaM3 years ago we have nothing of this, now you can create the equivalent to a junior programmer's first prototype
>>722470523I don't think you realize just how capable they're getting. And even if it somehow doesn't get to that point, which it will as it's blown past everything else, it would still be an extremely useful tool for devs to use.
>Make wooden mugs>sell wooden mugs at market>Industrial evolution happens and factories not produce perfect mugs at a volume I could never even dream of matching>sell "HAND MADE" "ARTISAN" wooden mugs at market with price increase
>>722457749>you'd be surprised to learn it's been extremely effective.No one that's actually familiar with what protein folding is would be. It was the definition of basic bitch pattern recognition gruntwork, to the point that it was in vogue for a while there to make the act into minigames that gamers could do to "help science!!!!!"So I guess congrats: you spent trillions of dollars, poisoned several small towns, and ravaged the energy grid so you could recreate a level of intelligence equal to a Borderlands 3 player
>>722471116they haven't sold a single AI videogame lil bro
>>722451403Imagine the flood of AI generated games on Google Play or Apple App Store. They're already flooded with low effort cash grab shit.
>>722470918>>722470691>tech will never improve and it doesn't matter if thousands of games are using AIretards
>>722471038>now you can create the equivalent to a junior programmer's first prototypeNot really impressive, given that this shit basically just takes wholesale from written tutorials and such on the internet that you today could already copy and paste from. It's like saying "I Made a Game using Only Google Search"
Complaining about AI making very simple games is like if in 1972 you were complaining about Pong and expecting a Super Mario Bros two years later.
>>722471207post your fucking AI videogame
>>722451493>AI can shit out games>Games trained off of currently existing games>Deriving all traits and qualities from currently existing gamesThere is no shortage of indie devs, no shortage of indie games. If these ai models are trained after the shit they're pumping out today its like intellectual incest of the same derivative concepts regurgitated with "X buy Y!" I don't care if I can prompt>"Celeste but with ninja grapple hooks!!!"That shits will suck.
>>722471172Didn't say they have, I was responding to OP's implications of the future.
>>722471337only train on good games
>>722471254You are only focusing in the result, how much time it takes to make a game like that?
>>722471295https://steamdb.info/tag/1368160/
AI feels like that potential man meme where everyone keeps telling me one day it will totes mcgoats do something of value.
>>722471043>it would still be an extremely useful tool for devs to useIt is, FOR DEVS, normal people that can't verbalize their issues however won't be able to. The very nature of AI means that a normal person won't be able to use it to make games. It isn't capable of being constant. Even when you use the same prompts for a picture you'll always get a slightly different picture. You're talking it up as if it's going to change everything for the common jeet(because let's face it only jeets are pushing AI in this antagonistic way since it feeds their over-inflated egos) it's not possible since the very essence of AI, the single underlying factor of AI is RNG. Using RNG to generate everything will not work well. Using it to assist where you know how each aspect works is one thing but thinking>hurr I prompt and it work goodis retarded. It won't happen because for it to happen it would need to completely remove itself from RNG which it can't due to it being ingrained in it's operation.As long as AI is using RNG it can only ever be used to assist someone that knows and understands what they want and can verbalize it properly otherwise you end up with modern websites where they all run like dogshit and barely function because the jeets use chatgpt and dump in the first thing that kind of works.
>>722457284anytime now >>722471482
>>72245153210-15 years probably.just remember that 6 years ago it was still making weird Will Smiths eating spaghetti all wrong.
>>722471482>say AI will make art someday>retards say it won't>t does>sell AI art>make tens of thousands of dollars doing it
>>722451403>AI can now make pixel art indie games.Nigger. Animation, not video game. Video games you can interact with it.
>>722471557I thought AIfags like you were seething because artists expect to be paid.Can you keep a single narrative about your slop?
>>722471602what is this schizo saying
can we just block india isp already please gook moot you piece of shit
>>722471453>You are only focusing in the resultNo, because the answer to>how much time it takes to make a game like thatis: none. You genuinely have not attempted making a game at all if you think this basic bitch tutorial shit would take any amount of time or effort.
>>722451403Is this just video generation or is it actually generating code? There’s nothing more technologically illiterate than believing that generating footage of fake gameplay is in any way equivalent to generating a game. That’s like pointing at an AI video of a man flapping his arms and flying away and going>oh my god AI lets people fly
>>722471476that's not a game, that's an AI video of something that doesn't actually exist
>>722471713anon...
>>722471476>that footageRemember when games had SOULhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5T6qenbdUc
>>722471406That would imply you can control it's learning capabilities. Unfortunately that's not possible. You, the prompter do not understand the coding languages that were used back in the day so you'd need to convert it to a modern language. How will you teach the AI to read and understand that old code to understand it's modern equivalent? You'll be using samples from modern games many of which WON'T be good, so you'll be training it on those bad games instead.And because you retards don't seem to get it. I'm not saying AI can't be used at all but that your dream of being able to make a whole game in a single prompt is not possible. You don't understand the requirements and depth of your request that it won't work.
>>722471785>that's not a gameyes it is
AI shillers are just regurgitating what asmongold told them to say no videogames will ever be made by these hucksters and retards
>>722471853You can train AIs just on game footage and have it fuddle with code for 1 million years until it understands the code required to output the games its seen footage of. Giving it code on top of that only speeds up and refines the learning process.
>>722471872>mixelsnever post again
>>722471794>anon...Yeah? What’s your fucking point, retard shill? That you can manipulate how AI generation goes? No fucking shit. That doesn’t change that what you’re proposing is not and will not be feasible for the foreseeable future.
>>722471891tell me you're a seething leftist tranny without telling me you're a seething leftist tarnny
>tfw kinda new into pixel art (1 month)>this pops up
>>722471995
very brown coded thread
>>722472028amon has become a giant faggot though, like hes got no original thoughts where he used to be decently smart
Heckin nooo! A logic based system will never be able to utilize a logic based language to construct logic based programs! AI will never make fricking games! Frickin heckarino!! Look at AI, how could it make something as complex as a game when twenty years ago it didn't even exist to generate a basic image!!! AI will never advanced in a thousand years! You can't make games without a human soul and a tribally charged sociopolitical opinion!!! noooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>722472087NTA. When I search up "Mech N Cheese" the first result is a bike repair shop not a game. This leads me to believe that the "game" in your vid does not exist, which makes me wonder why you posted it.
>>722472028you tell em hujeep
>>722471687You're not dumb enough to think everyone you disagree with is a poojeet, right?
>>722470102like 10 companies take up 38% of the snp500's value so when you buy a share you're buying a larger share in those 10 companies than the rest of the 500 than the more even spread 10 years ago
>>722471704ok, make the same game in 5 minutes with your skills
>>722472238No anon don't you see? Indians are making AI so they're defending AI which is replacing indians so indians are posting against AI! We're in Indiaception!
>>722472202>that minute of gameplay footage? fakelol
>>722472238>It's an Indian in a western nationThe west has fallen.
The delicious butthurt over AI doing something new every week never ends.
>>722472238>EveryoneAbsolutely not>the faggots spamming about how IT'S OVER AI WON ARTISTS LOST and other retarded shitNo, those are 100% jeets or at the very least spiritually jeet.
>>722472320>those 22 minutes of a sea sponge cooking burgers? fakelol
>>722451493not sure if they are in denial or idiots. just a few years ago they didn't believe AI would ever even code
>>722472397>he actually believes his copenow that's sad
>>722472368>doing something new every weekBut OPs thing isn't new. It's just video generation. So technically speaking OP's thread is off-topic and not video games.
>>722472424Feel free to post the game itself.
>>722472368I use ai in my game. Models, music, artwork for the user interface. Music has gotten very good.
>>722472462Feel free to continue searching for it since you want to play it so badly.
>>>/wsg/5989007lol
>>722472462>took 2 seconds to find itthis poster is an AI
>>722472368>newWe’ve had AI video generation for how long already?
>>722472561>image of a videoWhere's the game?
>>722471038The model creation stuff is impressive that's for sure but most of these services are ran on credit system which will consume your credits even if it produces absolute trash. Won't be surprised if studios start using it though.
>>722471207>Moving the goalposts.
>>722454242>>722453892AI games:https://steamdb.info/instantsearch/?refinementList%5Btags%5D%5B0%5D=AI%20Content%20Disclosed&refinementList%5BappType%5D%5B0%5D=Game
I HATE AI NOW>>5989180
>>722471476It feels like it could be mobile Indonesian mobile game material at least.
>>722451403Ai generation is the best thing happened to mankind
how the fuck are people making shit with rick & morty and spongebob,i type in literally any named character from anything ever and i get hit with a copyright censor
>>722451403>AI can now make pixel art indie games>AIOh, great. Just what the industry needs. More soulless and shallow video games.
>>722451403NOOOOO NO NO NO PAY ME I'M AN ARTIST AHHHH FUCKING PAY ME MY JOB IS REAL
>>722471713The Irony of this post.Everything seems impossible until it gets done. And men flying was a lot more impossible than AI making games.
>>722473129Ai has more sovl than 98% of human made artCope and rope ;)
>>722473129You don't have a soul. Stop. I'm so tired of this fucking argument from faggots that contribute nothing to humanity. Being alive isn't accomplishment. Your dad being too retarded to know how to use a rubber isn't a badge of honor, faggot.
>>722451403I kneel techbros
>>722451493It's funny that AI is supported by absolute tech illiterate baboons like thisWhy would the goal for this technology is to have less prompt? Ideally you'd want a playable game, that exactly follows your detailed specification without a flaw.Why would you want a random game generator that just does its own thing, and won't listen to you outside of your single prompt keyword lol. At that point just type a keyword on itch io, and blindly click on a random game.
>>722473253you can have both
>>722458745>yaaas vote for more infinity brownoids into western nations!!!>wtf why are we surrounded by "the stupidest people". The hecking unwholesome right wingers did this!!!
>>722473196söys have to go back
>>722451403does it make a video of a pixel art indie game or does it make a playable pixel art indie game ? because the difference between the two is the hundreds of man hours behind it
>>722472515the future is looking brightjust have to figure out how to make clips go forever instead of 10speople would watch this shit 24/7 if they could
>>722473150You illiterate fucking retard. Do you even fucking understand what the words in that post mean? The problem isn’t that AI is fundamentally incapable of working with highly complex systems, it’s that you retarded shills haven’t presented any evidence that it can. A video is not evidence that AI can generate games even remotely as complex as the fake game that it appears to showcase. Of course, you don’t understand how computers work, you just get payed to shill, so I’m sure it’s of no difference to you.
>>722473464the problem is that you're a double digit retard, that's ityou have no concept of what's going on here
>>722473271sure but you're stupid for thinking that prospect is going sells the idea of AIlike who in the right mind would want a random game generator, aside from retarded third world jeets who can't afford video games
>>722473464You illiterate fucking retard. Do you even fucking understand what the words in that post mean? The problem isn't that humans are fundamentally incapable of producing flying machines, it's that you retard shills haven't presented any evidence that they can. A drawing is not evidence that this "aeroplane" can fly even remotely above the ground as it appears in the sketches. Of course, you don't understand how wings work, you just get payed to shill, so I'm sure it's of no difference to you.
>>722473563>like who in the right mind would want a random game generatorme and the vast majority of gamersonly retarded seething dumbasses like you wouldn't
>>722473517You’re either a shill, a troll, or a subhuman who can’t read. Now, if the tiny fetid piece of flesh you call a brain isn’t able to come up with any substantial argument, just go away.
>>722473196>this electron box has soul>that human born with a soul has no soul>reeee'ing at the internet>unaware that my comments reveal more about me than it does about the person I am reeee'ing at
>>722473608look at the mad retard lash out
Ai is our present and future Adapt or DIE!!!!
>>722452757This is marxist value theory of labor trash. The effort you pour in doesn't translate as value. I don't care how much effort or time you put into a creative product if the output sucks and vice versa.
>>722451403Nice AI videos of bad indie games, indian.
>>722473517>you have no concept of what's going on hereIt created a video of a fake game that doesn't exist and isn't playable. Run the same prompt without telling it to do the same thing and it'll create a totally different video. Nothing will look the same.
All the mentally ill libtroon "artist" are malding because they had find a real job now :))))))
>>722473590I bet you think what you just said makes sense. The notion that a human can flap his arms and fly away is mere fantasy, and that remains true. Flying machines work using energy differentials, or downward thrust far stronger than what a human is capable of. Using phenomena that we understand to argue for why something is possible is a perfectly reasonable line of reasoning. The problem is that technologically illiterate subhumans such as yourself believe that two unrelated phenomena can evidence one another. If you have evidence that AI can work with code to the extent that it is capable of working with situations that complex, let’s hear it. Of course, you don’t. That’s why you’re spamming AI generated videos as evidence. How poetic.
>>722473747There are playable videos and AI that can code too
>>722473657I accept your concession, shill. See you in the next thread, you little bitch.
>>722451403So what bad news happened in the tech sphere? Because the jeets and bots and fags like OP have been flooding the board and other boards again and they only do that when their gay little ai toy takes a hit. So what is it?
>>722473824sora 2 came out and the luddites are freaking out again
>>722473761For all your postulating you're still a moron. Because that video that "proves nothing" was claimed to be impossible, by you, back in 2023 when it was barely making images, and those images were claimed to be impossible, by you, bacin in 2012 when it was struggling to generate just a text string. You ignore advancement as progress and instead you try and frame it as proof that progress is impossible. I don't need to debate you because you're proven wrong time and time again. You're arguing that it will never be able to string together logical code because right now it can "only" generate videos from scratch purely abstractly which is orders of magnitude more difficult. Don't worry anon, you can still be the smartest person in the room, given that that room neither exists nor has anyone in it. But keep patting yourself on the back for being a tech-illiterate digitard while you accuse all others of knowing nothing, nobody will take you seriously because you're a clown arguing debunked points in new phrases. Even AI has more originalty than you, maybe you should have Chat-GPT form your arguments for you, it might make some fucking sense for once.
>>722473969he was saying videos like that were impossible less than a year ago kek
>>722451403looks better than what they call “indie” nowadays. Something on the level of java games for button phones.
>>722451403>games>look inside>movies
>>722473803>There are playable videosNot games>AI that can code tooNo, it struggles to do anything more than basic shit there's plenty of tutorials for. If you do anything more than that it struggles to understand how to do so and if you don't understand where it's clearly going wrong you'll be attempting to fix it forever since AI won't understand why it's a problem since it doesn't iterate and it breaks apart once the RNG kicks in and rewrites the entire script resetting the process.
>>722458350It won't. Not in a trillion quadrillion years. Humanity will have ascended to pure ten-dimensional energy beings before AI makes a game that's actually worth playing.
>>722474021>a video you play is not a video gameconcession accepted
>>722451403But can it make deck builder roguelite slop
>>722473898>ludditesStop using words like that rakesh, you don’t know what they mean
>>722474025yes it will
>>722474050>a video you play is not a video gameYes, or are you going to call 360 degree Youtube videos games now?
>>722474050You don't even know what videogames are, do you?
>>722474115>seething luddite
>>722474136>>722474148video games are games with video. in them you control mechanics such as flying a vehicle, controlling a character, or painting a walla 360 degree video is not a game because you're just watching a video, there are no mechanics.
concession #2 accepted btwyou retards don't even know what video games are
>>722474185LmaoImagine wasting years learning to draw toonshit only to get replaced by you mobile phone
>>722473969>was claimed to be impossible, by you, back in 2023I never claimed anything, faggot. I’m DECLARING that you don’t have evidence that AI is capable of working the with complex systems it fabricates in that footage, and I’m objectively right.>You're arguing that it will never be able to string together logical code Show me where I said that, you limp dick nigger.The fact is that subhuman shills like yourself will continue to use AI generated footage to try and evidence things you have no evidence for and you’ll still be wrong. Now, unless you work at IBM or Microsoft, or some other company that works with cutting edge AI, you haven’t the faintest fucking clue what it is that sub general intelligence AI is and isn’t capable of, so instead of being a sensationalist little bitch using bait to piss people off, say something of substance or piss the fuck off.
>>722474420>I never claimed anything, faggot. he actually expects us to believe thisthis seething luddite acting like this is his first AI chimp out
>>722474285>concession #2 accepted>you retards don't even know what video games are>posts some random guy using a paint rollerWow, amazing gameplay Anon. That is absolutely worth playing and not at all on the level of Gone Homo which NEED I REMIND YOU on /v/ is NOT considered a video game.
>>722474498>posts more video footageThanks for proving my point.
>>722474547nice attempt at damage control lmao>>722474582it's a video game
if you are in game dev you better learn how to starting sucking cock immediately. because your job is gonna be gone
no one will buy an indie game made with AI
>>722468808It is better because you can describe what you want. Try writing a paragraph into google and tell me if you get any hits.I've used ChatGPT like once to have it write a script that pulled out a specific scenario out of a log. Took under an hour whereas if I would have googled it all it would have taken me much longer.Wouldn't trust AI for information however since it makes shit up all the time.
>>722474627>it's a video gameNot one that uses technology that can be feasibly deployed to create equivalent video games to what is standard in the industry.
>>722474498>in attempting to own Anons he proves the one point he hasn't even attempted to argue against>AI cannot be consistentNow imagine this with a FULL LENGTH PROPER GAME. EVERYTHING you don't do yourself will be different each time. If you liked the models from attempt 2 you wouldn't be able to merge them in with attempt 5's gameplay. You need to do everything piece by piece or you'll have a piece of shit that has no consistency.Why can't AIfags just accept it's a perfectly acceptable tool but it won't be taking over any major roles.
>>722474710>>722474718concession #3 accepted
>>722471482>’AI will be super useful guys!’>it’s just Google>’AI can make art guys!’>takes 3 years to learn how to make fingers>AI art has inbred so much it has a piss filter by default for 90% of it>still very obviously AI>’AI can make videogames!’>it’s a video>or it’s a gameplay video of a existing game passed through a filter>’AI can code!’>it’s completely unusable garbage>’AI can write stories!’>was actually true but between the horny users and prude advertisers most of the AI used for storytelling were lobotomized or made retarded by porn (usually both)>’AI can help businesses!’>brick all the time and don’t understand basic concepts, extreme difficulty when interacting with customersThere’s so much money invested in this trash and if it doesn’t turn a profit we’ll have a THIRD FUCKING ECONOMIC CRASH IN 5 YEARS(When we’re already said to be in a second Great Depression)
>>722451403>double the size of model>it gets 20% better.>double the size again>it gets 15% better.I'm not sure it's ever really gonna get much better and be able to generate games from 1 prompt without a fundamentally different technology.anyone who's tried vibe coding so far is very quick to notice it's limitations, you have to handhold it and it still forgets entire things it's done previously.if you try to use it on a big project it re-writes entire systems because it cant read the existing ones into it's tokens.im not convinced anyone's using it for any real things or they're just using it to supplement test writing which is fine.
>>722474742Ironically, your inability to argue against the arguments that disprove you idiotic point, and being forced into a corner where all you can say is>l-le consesionproves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you have effectively conceded.
someone post a link to a generated game that i can play, and ill accept that ai can generate a game.i dont count pre generated images in a hand coded game, because at that point its still just generated art.i MAY count a game where someone generated the images, and vibe coded the gameplay, but not if its just unity code chunks, it has to be something new.
>>722474236>look you can google maps your way through an empty hallway at 15 fps with massive input lag in order to see random jank geometry shoved everywhere and look at something that kind of maybe looks vaguely like a statue that's meant to be something>this after billions of dollars and countless shill threads>this is the future guys I swear
Why is there so much hate and vitriol for art from AIfags? They desperately want artists broke and jobless, seemingly to no end.
>>722474873just generate your own like everyone else
>>722474873Listen, obviously AI can generate a game. To understand why, let’s consider what a video game is.To start, suppose we have a game that is as follows: a button is on screen and your objective is to raise a score that goes up when you press that button. If you think that the code for that is too complex for AI, you’re just delusional.Of course, the question here is how complex the game is that AI can generate. As things get more complex, the difficulty of the code wrangling goes up exponentially. Concurrently, current AI advances largely involved adding some more GPUs, which is far less exponential.
>>722474937"ai can totaly do this thing, you just need to make it yourself"im not asking for a perfect triple a game, im asking for a link, to someone's prototype generated game.if it exists, you should be able to find one.if i wanted to make my own game using AI i would just have it DM a dnd campaign about fat assed goblins or something, with an image gen ai making art to go with it.but thats not a videogame.
>>722474742Rajesh I know you don't understand English, programming or anything technological beyond the existence of Google Play gift cards but what you've posted cannot be perfectly replicated each time. AI's number one failing for game development is it's number one point of praise for art generation. Consistency. You will NEVER get the same outcome each time. It's perfect for art generation where you want to have a single best outcome but for proper iterative processes like games it's terrible because as I said, if you "prompted the whole game" you cannot carry everything across so that the elements you favor from each attempt cannot be merged. Even with your own examples there's a lack of consistency between the various attempts, they don't operate the same way, there's little issues that for a little playtest will appear to be nothing but for a full production will be glaring and obnoxious.
>>722474873>someone post a link to a generated game that i can play, and ill accept that ai can generate a game.ez@grok: make pacman-er, tictactoe in pythonopen it in python. BAM
>>722474923Trillions of dollars for a fancy photoshop filter and a Google search makes some a bit defensive when you point that out
>>722474996if it can generate a game, like you say, then share a link to one i can play.doesn't have to be good, but it has to function.you know, since ai can "obviously" generate a game, you can obviously find one.
>>722475043ok cool, get me a link to a mega of the python codesurely, you can follow through on this "ez" task.
>>722473402Oh we will. I mean we went from "Will smith eats spaghetti" like, two? years ago to this. The jump is fucking insane. Plus, a few months ago video generation was both worse and only 4-5 seconds. Now its much better and 10. In another year? A minute+ and even higher quality. Sure, it'll start to plateau eventually, but by the time it does we won't care - we'll find workarounds for limitations.Literally infinite content is at our fingertips.
>>722475079Anon, do you really think that AI can’t program a goddamn bean counter? Are you false flagging? Are you an AI nigger pretending to be retarded because you can’t argue against any actual detractors?
>>722474923you know why
>>722474873AI can’t even make a drawing correctly in what world could it do something that takes a dozen men a year minimum for something halfway functional
>>722474923you keep whining "crash and burn AI hobbyists, fuck you!" and you don't expect kickback?Plus we're winning so your tears are hilarious lol
>>722451493even if they could doesn't mean it would be good.
>"Muh water, muh forests, muh climate"Look call AI useless jeetslop all you want but if you pull out the "muh climate" card your position immediately weakens. Nobody gives a shit about some woke leftist talking point.
>>722451493>BRO CHECK IT OUT AI TOTALLY MADE A PLAYABLE GAME>15secondvideoclip.webm>Ok but where's the download for the game?>OK DUDE THERE'S NO DOWNLOADABLE GAME BUILD BUT THERE'S THIS VIDEO OF IT SO JUST BELIEVE ME THAT AI MADE A GAME OK!?!?Gee, I can't imagine why everyone would be skeptical every time you AI shills spout your bullshit.
Bunch of autists in here no fucking clue how much work is involved when it comes to merging all the slop code to make something workable. Simple scripts sure, but you're fucking dreaming if you think this is scalable at all. Enjoy your flappy bird clone #194224 and vampire survivor cause you ain't creating something substantial without some actual effort.No really, there's already a bunch of asset flip slop on steam that's nothing but copy-pasted templated code. You really think someone is going to pay to play your generated trash? If anything, you'll just be adding to the existing indian shovel-slop that plagues the market places
>>722451403AI can now shitpost and suck cockIt's over for OP
>>722474923Artists get to actually make something they want while AI fags don’t even get what they prompted
>>722475234No I’m not taking 2 showers a week so they can use the excess water for AI centres Rajesh
>>722475134there's an observable plateau though, every time they double the model size the model doesn't get 2x better.the jump from gpt3 -> 4 was impressive, but the jump from 4 -> 5 was meh.there's only so much optimization you can do for matrix multiplication and there's only so much input data (which they've already used all of)at the moment they're doing weird shit like MoE because the models have stopped getting better and still take $0.05 of electricity for every single prompt.I think we're pretty close to this plateau which i'm fine with honestly because it's useful enough for what I use it for.
>>722452757Retard.
>>722475142And as everyone has been harping on we don't see that as a game. With how AI fags are acting if the AMAZING SUPER COOL GAME THAT'LL UPROOT GAMING is a shittier Cookie Clicker or worse, Banana why should we be impressed. Any sped can do that. If you're going to claim shit like >AI IS TAKING OVERor>ARTISTS BTFOthen post something that actually EARNS that praise.
>>722454093be fair - how'd you feel is someone showed up and started spouting wrong and retarded info about sucking cock?
>>722468236I wonder whether these fags will ever buy a video game that has heavy AI use in its production at all. They all look uncanny walking simulators at best, and everyone rejects that. There is simply no market for them.
>>722454223>two left feet at 00:02
>>722475234They're collectively using up the same power that NYC does daily. That's pretty nuts. Even in a more practical sense, if you're within the same county as these AI data centers then your electricity bills go up by a lot.
>>722458154Yeah it will take at least 5 prompts for that
>>722475564>ppl using powerwow... no way...
>>722475117heh, well I didn't want to connect it to an account and used deepai/gpt-alternative. https://pastebin.com/ERJM9zc1So, open it in python and it's an AI game...works first try too..heh(I'm not sure what this proves or what this conversation is about lol)
>>722474923They're losers who are leaping at the chance for technology to provide them with a shortcut in life. Deep down they know they're worthless wastes of skin that can't create anything and can't even summon the discipline to try. They hate everyone who is actually working and improving at a skill because those people are a reminder of their own status as failed humans.
>>722474923You say that as if anti-AI people don't demand AIfags to be executed because they DARED to have AI voices in their game. The hate and vitriol is equal on both sides.
>>722475243>If anything, you'll just be adding to the existing indian shovel-slop that plagues the market placesSAAR DO NOT MOCK THE GREAT INDIAN GAME INDIANS USE STORE BOUGHT ASSETS GOOD TO MAKE GOOD GAMES AI WILL IMPROVE THE ASSETS AND CODE TO MAKE BETTER GAMES AND INDIA WILL BE VERY PROSPEROUS BLOODY BITCH BASTARD YOU WON'T BE LAUGHING I WILL BE RICH BASTARD FUCKING BITCH MY NEW HOME WILL BE MAKED FROM ALLUMINUM SHEET METAL INSTEAD OF TIN COCKSUCKER I WILL HAVE CONCRETE DDIVEWAY TO SHIT ON INSTEAD OF DIRT BITCH I WILL INVITE YOUR MOTHER OVER FOR FUCK ON MY MATRESS AND BLANKET BLOODY FUCK
>>722475310Is this water shortage in the room with us now or is it just like AIfags lofty delusions?
>>722452757Pretty much, AI fags and Indians don’t have any humanity so your point is gonna fly completely over their heads, Big Rigs Racing has a charm to it despite being completely unplayable trash, AI games (if they ever exist, doubt) will be on par with the most boring games to exist as you need someone with vision, you need people to make it as it’s inherently a joint project created by many hands, AI will drunkenly stumble and create the most disgustingly boring comically high specs game ever, it could just recreate Pac-Man and it’d probably somehow make it have to have 14gbs of VRAM even if that shit was still 2S
>>722474923AIfags are worthless, and Artfags seething about AI are retarded.Its the equivalent of having a worker you review the work of, request fixes, or fix the work yourself.A AIfag cannot do that because they are not a artist, and the artfag who hates AI refuses to do it because they are stupid as fuck.I mean shit, you can use a lot of AI at once, Its like having your own retarded team.
>>722475243Not just code, AI is really shit at large scale job because it is a predict model based on your input, it doesnt understand contextWith large scale project like a playable video game, of course it will shit the bed hard cause there are too many variablesThat is why it is only good at small tasks
>>722466212Build engine games are on the comeback so maybe we could see a return of the artstyle.
>>722475632Then another 10 prompts of you arguing with it to fix a feature of the code that you could have fixed yourself and unfortunately with your lack of talent you end up quitting on the 20th prompt after it promptly deletes any previous history of your discussion
>>722475470AI upscaling is already causing games from 2000 to have comically higher specs can you imagine the absolute dogshit a fully AI game will be?
>>722475640Well that's kind of the problem isn't it? These companies are using up ungodly amounts of power and they're nowhere near turning a profit. At some point you just have to admit these models aren't sustainable. We don't have infinite money and electricity to throw at them.
>>722475409But you’re missing the fucking point here (and that really isn’t what everyone has been harping on about). Obviously, AI can make something more complex than that. The point is that AI can most certainly make computer games. Suggesting otherwise would be like saying that AI can’t make images or videos. The question, rather, is if AI can make games that are even remotely worth playing.
>>722475234Trillions of dollars and gallons of water used per second while having the power draw of a large city just to give you the wrong answer to a simple question or fuck up a simple drawing means this trash is dead in the water, it’s only a matter of time until it implodes and we get another Black Tuesday
>AI as a tool to help people with the actual skill to skip most of trivial tasksThis is true and many already use it as such>AI is a magic box if you feed it prompt and it will go bruhhhh and shit our a finished productThis is jeet retardation, nobody will buy this kind of AIslopLike most AI ‘artist’ cant monetize any of their shit lmao
>>722476163you are so mad lmaoimpotent rage
>>722476163When his bubble bursts war will start. 10s of millions will die UNLESS we bail out these companies. It's for your own good
>>722475234Most AItards are just wasting resource and creating nothing of value
>>722451403AI can now create and bump these threads!
>>722476161I mean, if AI could make a basic platformer with a random level, that might be interesting to play. how would it even mess a platformer? is there a way to mess that up? on the other hand, if there is a way, it'll find it. murphy's law ig.
>>722476161>is if AI can make games that are even remotely worth playingI feel like that's implied when people criticize AI making games. No one's saying it out and out CAN'T. Any retard can do a basic higher and lower game. A game that's actually worth playing and fun to play on the other hand is incredibly complex and intricate and AI just can't do something like that because of it's RNG nature. It's why my main point is about consistency an absolute requirement for good game development. It's strongest point is it's weakest point in this case.
>>722476163Yeah buddy, just two more weeks before it all implodes! For real this time!
>create pretty graphics with AI and turn it into a sloppy game>No gameplay Uuuuuuh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite
>>722476449look up mario gpt
Why do people fight so viciously for AI? I'm no luddite, I see the use cases, but accepting no criticism or restraint with new technology is bizarre to me. It seems anti-human.
>>722476559You're anti-human if you're against it. It's one of the greatest achievements mankind has come up with.
>>722451532
>>722476449There’s a trillion platformers you can effortlessly find. Of course, most of them are trash that may very well be worse than whatever mediocre crap chatGPT can spit out. Despite that, there are certainly probably far more games in that genre than you could ever hope to finish that are interesting and fun to play and are far more worthwhile than what chatGPT shits out.That’s my point. The reason that the AI shills are wrong isn’t that AI CAN’T make a game, because it can. They’re wrong because, as it stands, AI can’t replicate the complexity it takes to make a game with more substance than a bean counter.
>>722451403make an elden ring in the theme of bloodborne, with the fidelity of a rdr2. have the chalice dungeon mechanic, where you can go down endlessly into the depths. every ng+ regenerates a new world.
>>722476587Fantastic reading comprehension. I'd accuse you of being a bot but those have much more ability than you. You've proven yourself human through sheer retardation. What a waste of my time to try and talk in an Indian shill thread.
>>722476519But you shouldn’t let people like >>722474873, regardless of if he’s trying to poison the well or he’s just stupid, to make a fool of the argument.
>>722476559Because of the people that got attached to it and made it their entire personality. Put simply, jeets. AI has it's uses but only jeets and jeet minded people refuse to accept any criticism of it. This is because it's something India as a whole has been heavily involved with(or at least believe so because of how they've taken over the tech sector) so criticizing AI is the same as criticizing them. You then combine this with the fact that jeets are incredibly narcissistic and they take it as a serious almost criminal act to criticize AI because they see it as an extension of themselves. This is also why when they praise it they speak in such extreme terms because they see AI succeeding and becoming number 1 the same as themselves being number 1.
...which brings me to the question, will AI replace India one day?
>>722476726Why did you literally sperg out? I wasn't insulting you personally, did you take it that way?
You ever wonder why all these AI "games" are just videos and never actually interactive?Weird.
>>722453892https://store.steampowered.com/app/1315610/Source_of_Madness/The only game I know about that actually uses AI for what AI offers (weird fucky looking blobs) instead of trying to use it to replace something.
>>722451403Nigga please you can't even use AI to texture a 3D model without endless trial and error and additional editing required.
>>722476661That sounds like you're really jaded on the genre of platformers. people back then played platforming flash games, fangames like mari0, etc. just because it was fun. You're saying 80% of it is slop-at this point you hate video games, not AI. Nothing will ever please you. It's like saying AI can't do art but actually you hate all art below Picaso.
>>722474923Because artist are all narcissist and think they contribute anything to the society, its ok if you do it as a hobby but don't compare yourself to doctor and engineers
>>722468798it isn't AI tho
>>722477469If you like a game because you think that the human touch inherently makes it interesting, that’s perfectly fine, but that doesn’t mean that certain aspects can’t be quantified.Now, if you don’t care about quantification, that’s also fair, but a large majority of people do. That’s why games that play well tend to have the most mass appeal.Now, if your upset about the fact that people as a whole prefer games with quantifiably better decisions, that’s your own problem.
>demoralization thread
>>722477379https://steamcommunity.com/app/1315610/discussions/0/520850543227265883/Seems more like that AI was only used on cutscenes.
>>722451493I'm going to make 7 each catering to a specific fetish
>>722474923It all stems back to India being heavy supporters of AI. They see the "barrier to entry" for artistic expression as too extreme and take it as a personal attack that they can't. Seeing a chance to "turn the tables" and get one over on the artists as them exposing their projection onto artists who likely didn't even notice the jeets existed. They see the barrier existing as the artists laughing at them instead of simply a matter of learning how to draw, animate, whatever. Having a computer do it for them and then pretending it was all their own work means that the praise "their" work gets is because of them.
all of this shit sucks as soon as I can strap my dick into the computer and tell it to generate the most grotesque monmusu porn and beat me off until I die I will do so happily.
>>722453606This. The future is bleak and the only escape is reality.
>>722473380The right wing billionaires were the ones that outsourced everything to other countries in the first place, you miserable idiot.
>>722477983>right wing billionaireslol
Ill post a video of mine but only a few things were made in ai like the player armor and enemy you see. I program on my own with tutorials and white pages from unreal. I only ask ai if I can do something more efficiently and ludus is great for spot checking and helping me understand a function or event.
>>722451403awesome games done gwick?
>>722470168two more weeks
>>722478012You think you get rich by not being a sociopathic chud?
>>722478029what engine?
>>722478163you filthy blue pilled golem
>>722478169Unreal engine 5.4. I didnt know 4 was better or I would have gone with it instead.
>>722478231how come you didn't use unity?
>>7224776851. The human element would be someone creating mario-gpt based on the idea of plugging gpt to mario levels. It's the same as someone plugging portal+mario and making mari0, maybe similar to a roguelike.2. There's use for browser/fangames that don't purpose to be more than that, they're just browser games or whatever, just as there's for games with high quality. It's just somewhat worrying because people who hate AI are one step from hating on artists (despite claiming to be supporting them), imagine going on a spree because a fanart someone posted wasn't good enough or they find out there's a lot of fanart on fanart websites.
>>722478286They aren't one step from that, they've been there. Being against AI is just being against art. They hate art and just want people to pay attention to them through their shitty art.
>>722478280I didnt know Unity was friendly to noobs either. I just got really mad a game i played removed greatsword combat so I picked the first youtube tutorial I found, which happened to be unreal and said fuck it. Then I spent 6 months learning syntax like actors, components and whatnot. I'm happy with it overall.
>>722478475kek, what game did that? that's retarded
>>722478286People consider AI to be slop because that’s how they see it. If that’s an uncomfortable reality, that’s your own fucking problem.Really, when all is said and done, what people dislike isn’t the use of AI for coding, since what happens on the backend isn’t the player’s problem. As such, if you perceive a sentiment alluding to an issue, the problem isn’t on the backend. It isn’t your place to decide what is and isn’t acceptable.
>>722478746The slop argument is invalid because they can't even tell when something is AI, they just guess.
>>722478816Yeah bro, those five videso posted at the start of the thread are so good that nobody can tell it's AI created! You showed those pesky none AI believers!
>>722478925You should be ashamed of yourself being this disingenuous.
>>722451403Those are videos. Not video games.
>>722452446>>722452515>>722452585>AI makes a video>LOOK, IT CAN MAKE A VIDEO-GAMEno?
>>722478816Then what are you bitching about? On the one hand, people are unfairly bashing AI, on the other, they aren’t because they don’t recognize it?
>>722478746Well, there's no need to be on a crusade against fanart, because it's 'slop'. Imagine if whenever a game fanart was posted in the board as usual you wanted to crucify the poster for daring to do it, it turned into hysteria over posting fanart(that naturally has quality of fanart), racist insults, etc. (and it isnt a case of spamming) anti-AI people look like that.
>>722479162Recall all the instances of artists attacking other artists because they simply thought they used AI, even when they didn't. It's ridiculous and if you test any of the haters of AI on recognizing AI, they'll always fail.
>>722479192Nobody’s on a crusade. If you want to make AI games and post them round, go ahead. People just don’t want things like AI art to be put in with art drawn by people. Further, the issue most people genuinely have is these obnoxious threads proclaiming that “le game devs r over.” I’d say that if you don’t want to be reviled, don’t act like a faggot, but frankly I don’t think you’re even that reviled. You just have a persecution complex.
>>722479192>Imagine if whenever a game fanart was posted in the board as usual you wanted to crucify the poster for daring to do it>He doesn't remember Tumblr "fanart" threadsThe bants were top tier, the art was repulsive
>>722479229>Recall all the instances of trannies attacking other non-tranny artists that are more popular than themFixed
Can AI make me consistent graphics assets in a specified format so I can make the rest of the game myself?
>>7224793642d yes
>>722451403Okay can I play it?
>>722478605Some trash korean mmo called sun online. Had lots of potential but their recent re-release made their berserker a gimped piece of shit while all other characters got 3 to 4 main weapons. It was the best dps weapon for his class and poof just gone. I lost my gear and character the fuck. I get it no use whining about a shit game. But at least im enjoying the dev process.
>>722451493Okay but who cares? It's like you guys never went to school and played a game nobody else played and had nothing to talk about with your peers. That's what AI slop will be - shit you can't enjoy with others.I have no doubt it'll be successful at some point, just like tiktok is, but AI game will never get nominated for GOTY because it'll be ephemereal and only exist on your PC.
>>722480538You might like New World, they mostly fixed it after few years and it has greatsword now.
>>722479302I think it weakens the argument that ai when used intelligently is good. But those of us who supplement from it in ways that still require my manual config 99% of the time it is just a better Google search for me. I ignore some of its wild ass suggestions but it helped me increase my framerate for a stupid rookie mistake. But I never give it full control. These threads are autism brought on by typical 4chan faggots.
>>722480868Thanks for the suggestion ill check it out. Here is a last vid before the archive hits.
