Is Hades 2 worth it? I played Hades at launch and thought it was a good game. However, I also think it is one of the most overrated and circlejerked indie games of all time. Is Hades 2 just the same gauntlet with 4 bosses just having recolors? I didn't much care for the heat system in Hades, and if the runs are as short as the first one, I might as well pass until the game goes on sale.
It's more of the same, with a mostly less charming main character. If you liked the fast paced, skill rewarding combat with a variety of combat styles and a healthy dose of RNG, it's perfect. Bosses are all super distinct, and the heat system is back if you think you can handle more challenge. I'm really enjoying it with about 60 hours into the game and plan to put in more with the 1.0 release.
>>722478659>plan to put in more with the 1.0 release.Isnt this the 1.0 release? And its not that I think I can handle the more challenge, I just couldn't care to do it.
>>722478659>with a mostly less charming main character.Try the entire game. The entire game is the opposite of charm. The gameplay I hear is better than the first game though so it has that going for it at least.
>>722478970Sorry, I meant I probably had maybe 30 hours into the game already and plan to keep playing. I think the heat (called fear now) system is really great after doing a lot of upgrading. It really does make your skill expression shine through.>>722479117Yeah Mel is a lot more aggressive and much less interesting than Zag, but she is more or less an assassin from birth. It's kind of like looking into the birth of her character after her training instead of Zag's rebellious phase.
>>722478509Work trash. Avoid like the plague.
>>722479451Get a job NEET.
>>722479498You do not deserve my money. You will earn it by making a non-DEI game.
>>722478509The only reason to play Hades 1 was because the hot main character
>>722478659Is her skillset different enough from the Hades1 dude at least? Or will it start to feel like reskin?
>>722478509Woke trash Tumblr dogshit
>>722480245Her skills all feel unique that I don't ever feel like I'm playing as Zag, even if I wish I could. Even her ultimate(s) all have unique flavoring and conditions.
Like the based anons have said, don't support woke sweet baby inc shit
>>722478509>worth itWorth it? Worth what? Twenty bucks you can get it for? More than worth it.
>>722480684Something worth more then money. Time. Also, if they are planning on putting out more content, I will might as well wait, however I don't remember them adding that much content to Hades 1.
>>722478509It’s like the first game but expanded.Weapons have extra charge attacks, the call is expanded into its own tree, you get two separate runs and there are more gods to be blessed by.Base game is harder, but the 32 heat statue is far easier to get
>>722480649Well ok, guess I'll get 2 when I'm bored of 1. I think SG still has better art than majority of indie devs out there. Can't stand pixel art.
the story is total dog but the gameplay is just as bussin if not better
>>722481528>the story is total dogCan you elaborate? I bet you can't
>>722481740It's a story that squanders all potential of its own time-related setup and ends with Mel becoming a background character compared to Zag who fixes everything. Mel's exploits are ridiculous (fighting several titans including god damned Typhoon) but her character development is nonexistent, she is still the same person in the postgame she was in the beginning unlike Zag in the first game.It would be significantly better if we were playing Zag yet again.
>>722481740first of all you sound like a complete and utter gay faggotin general the game takes itself way too seriously, i personally liked the much more lighthearted and self-aware tone of the first one. the ending and the premise for the postgame are retarded and dont really make any sense.
>>722482013This reads like you watched the show from the youtube
>>722482038would you like me to start spoiling everything, faggot?
also what do you mean by show? retarded brown esl faggot. kill yourself expeditiously.
>>722478509only for mel desuand I heard they respected Zagreus (previous MC) and didnt trash on him for the girl boss like all woke trash do
why does every thread have someone needing this item to be explained it's literally the simplest shit ever you just prime your attack and then faceblast into enemies with your special for one hadesillion damageyou dont even use omega attacks or any of that cuck bullshit you just primex4 faceblast
I didn't like Mel as much as Zag when I started playing but she's really grown on me. She definitely lightens up as the game goes on, I like the juxtaposition of Zag who never really had to grow up until the game starts to Mel who had to grow up too fast. Also I didn't hate the ending as much as everyone else seems to, even if the post game is a little nonsensical.
>>722482230one of the great parts of hades 2 is that there's a whole lot of viable builds, from smashing face first into things with the skull or long ranged omega attacks with the staff you'll find plenty of builds that destroy the content. the casts, the hexes, and the omega attacks add a lot more depth and options to the gameplay that just wasn't there in hades 1.
>>722482635mel is fine, the problem is the supporting cast that sucks balls. hecate and the ghost are the only tolerable characters in the camp.
>>722482687Hecate is boring too. But Eris and Nemesis are fucking insufferable and they never get better.
Should I play the first or just grab this?
>>722483949This is a sequel and gameplay builds up on 1. Plus 1 is probably cheaper now and goes on sale even more often. It'll give you plenty of time to enjoy the first game, or understand that you don't enjoy this type of game, before you can grab 2 on a sale. It's the best course of action overall.
>>722482098That's because Zagreus has the big gay.
>>722483949You are not allowed to play Hades 2 before having played Hades 1
>>722482687god I wanna fuck Dora
>>722484164You mean Dusa?
>>722484019>That's because Zagreus has the big gay.he is bisexual, which is hated by both sides, and he never ever acts like a faggot
>>722484206
>>722484206>>722484254is it true the VA cucked us out of a romance
How the fuck do I wake up Hypnos? I turned Chronos gay already and there's not even a hint on how to do that.
>>722485229That's the rumor. I think Dusa being employee to Zagreus/Zagreus' father would have been problematic. Plus the mental images of how they were supposed to have sex. With the blue bitch there never even were implications of sex, just bondage session. And no, I don't know how Thanatos' sex scenes were because I rejected him.
whyd they make this fish so cool
>yet another case of "Female Protagonist is an always angry, bitchy cunt with literally the worst traits of 'toxic masculinity' and no charm or interesting personality whatsoever"After Silksong this shit is unacceptable. They proved you can have a chill and cool FeMC.
>>722485579check your fated list, also check with medea more
>>722485818Anon, Nemesis isn't the protagonist. Melinoe is.
>>722485648with that reasoning you wouldn't be okay with any romance
>Watch some streamer doing hades 2 rooms>He forgets to look at the patterns of the Simon Says move from Prometheus>Fucking iframes with dodges all 5 without taking damageI didn't even KNOW they could be dodged
>>722478509The problem with these games that play like high level Diablo clones is that even if they have different mechanics, they don't matter. Everyone just fall into coma spamming their buttons, and maybe there is some ultra late game boss with a move that you should be dodging, but that's really it. Flashing lights and loud sounds, number go up, monkey happy.
>>722485817gay
>>722487631Um.. how far did you get in Hades or Hades 2?
>>722489138100% achis on Hades 1 because I liked the characters, currently at the part where I need to use the Dad's spear in 2.
>>722489214Have you killed Chronos or went upper world?
>>722489295So you didn't even play the game if you don't know where I am based on that info lol? Yeah I have "killed" Chronos like 5 times and the top guy 5 times also for the story to progress.
>>722478509>However, I also think it is one of the most overrated and circlejerked indie games of all timeDo you have any other recommendations for roguelites with a story?
>>722480245You're playing a caster vs. a strike fast hit and run char. Trying to play like Zag will feel weak and get you killed.
>>722489925There's melee weps too. Have you progressed enough to roll tanky builds?
Hecate is Melinoe because of time travel alternate timelines bullshitenjoy your time travel slop lmao
>>722490686It has literally 0 effect on anything besides that one scene.
>>722490890don't careany mention of time travel, alternate universes or alternate timelines is dogshit for dogshit mediait ultimately changes and sours everything retroactively
>>722478509just get megabonk, same amount of slop but less pretense.
>>722478509No, pirate it.
>>722482098wut, you literally beat him up and he limps away
>>722479779Faggot
melinoe getting dp'd by prometheus and heracles!
who are the love interests for Mel?
>>722492142nemesis, moros, eris, and icarus
>>722482230And then the skulls remain back so you have to do a walk of shame to collect themAlso, you're not invulnerable while using the special, so it's like a bad dash attack
>>722492323even in a fantasy setting the lesbian relationships are hell lol
can someone explain this shit to me? why does zagreus change the past but the timeline doesn't change somehow? also only him and chronos have their memories altered for some reason?it makes zero sense to me
Is it ever explained why Odysseus looks so anime?
>>722482687Aside from nemesis, whats wrong with the rest? Also i love all the side characters that gives you boon through regular gameplay, like echo
>>722492753does he? that's kind of just jen zee's style
Just need the great chaos below trial to platinum the game, managed to max out all relationships except Icarus and Artemis since they never show up
>>722483949Its more impactful if you play the first game
How do I use the Black Coat? It just feels like a shitty aspect of Pan for the Sister Blades.
>>722485579give him nectar twice and talk to medea
Never playing without the Excellence card again. Every time I try to rarify something with the fountain keepsake, it does it to the most useless boon possible that definitely didn't need upgrading.
>>722493138I like aspect of Selene, sky fall is pretty broken
>>722493138Rush attacks with Hestia and specials with Demeter, then get the duo boon.
>>722493304Still feels like the Sister Blades would be infinitely better with that specific build.
>>722478509>>722478659These designs look so fucking awful. And these skin colours are absurd, its as if they have some allergic reaction to just making a normal white skinned character, so they do this weird desaturated ashen shit. Not to mention all those genuinely blackwashed faggots. Its disgusting.
>>722493360The rush has a larger AoE that hits more times, IIRC
>>722493474>weird desaturated ashen shitAnon, they're children of the night. They basically never see the sun.
>>722478509I enjoy Hades I & II but also think they're overrated. I think the game is really aimed at people who don't play roguelites. My favs are probably Synthetik and Roboquest
>>722493258Excellence is the most useless card in the game.It just limits your grasp by 5 for no benefit.
why do people call Hades II woke but not Hades?
>>722494879because this is recency bias, people absolutely called hades 1 woke. also because the main character is a woman this time it makes poltards mad and more likely to nitpick
>>722494669Why would I want all my important boons to be common?
>>722495080The effect of excellence is deceptive.It’s not as good as it implies, which makes it a massive opportunity cost
>>722485863NTA but her solutions didn't work. Now what?
>>722495228it's exactly as good as it implies, you people just don't know how to read. inb4 you try to sell me on origination.
>>722495228>play without it>almost all boon options are common>play with it upgraded>all boon options are rare or epic, so I can reliably get heroic onesIt works great
>>722493549>We MUST come up with some excuse to not just make them white>Underworld negroes are fine though, tehee, its just fantasy who cares about sunI hate you jews like you wouldn't believe.
>>722494879Men. While this game is about witches and horoscope reading.
>>722495438>Black TheseusI hate this fucking shit
>>722495430>excuseit's a reason, not an excuse. why would they need to make excuses? to appease retards like you? they look pallid cause they're from the underworld. Melinoe's mother isn't and has a healthy skin tone.
>>722495742>Ignores the underworld negroes because they dont fit the narrativeLike I said, just an excuseKys faggot
>>722495862What underworld negroes? The mortals who are dead?
>>722495430What? Things look darker in poor lighting.
>>722495862>ignores the example I postedthere's white people in this game and I don't mean the ashen skin tone. that's just a design choice for some of the underground dwellers. also, you first, dumbass.
>>722478509I pirated it. This MC sucks. From her combat, to her story, to everything about her. Played like an hour and uninstalled. Its trash. Bait and switch woke nonsense
>>722482230this weapon is so badeverything but the sickle just sucks ass, axe would be good if you could actually use it to hit shit without being locked into a three second animation at the end
>>722496183>Bait and switchwhat's the bait? it looks woke and it is woke. how did you get tricked?
>>722478659i want eris to bully me, she has a nice laugh
>>722496078there's black characters because this is a modern fucking game and not an accurate representation of greek mythology. if (you) don't like it feel free to fuckoff.
>>722478509Hades 2 is fun but after beating Silksong and TDA I can't help but feel a little dissapointed how it is just the first game again with no real evolution.The game feels more like a DLC pack then the game that started out as a DLC pack.
>>722496501Shitsong is literally just Hollow Trans tho
So what the fuck "let time flow freely forth" even means. Even in game no one knows what the fuck it means they just repeat it over and over.Is this allegory fow how i wasted my time on this shit?
>>722496620time travel plots never end up making much sense, i recommend not to think too hard about it and just go with the flow. the story in hades 2 is pretty shit but the gameplay is top tier.
>>722496620>time is le convolutedthey're pulling Dark Souls with this one
>>722496575>Hades 2 is one of the wokest games of the year>Calling another gane tranny???
>>722497041in their defense it's hard to write a good plot when all the characters are forever stuck in one location trying to kill you in a loop.
>rivals Polythemusjesus christ
>>722497248eh, the gameplay is basically the same as regular prometheus, run in circles while hitting the boss. i'm stuck on rival cerberus atm.
>>722496078Fuck off apologist shill, go back to commiefornia
>>722497514eat a dick, faggot. I'm not even am*rican.
>>722497401I find most not-Extreme Measures bosses to be unfun, some not well designed. Cerberus is just an ass to deal with and Eris is easier because you fight in a smaller arena where its easier to catch up with her.
>>722495498In this case he's just got bodybuilding tanner on
Hades is the weakest Supergiant game after Hades 2I will not change my mind.
>>722496338>bitches repeatedly about something others dont care about >tells others to fuck offkill yourself
>>722497646>pact eris is easieri don't agree there, regular eris is one of the easiest bosses in the game once you learn to glue yourself to her ass. it's not fun, but it's easy. hard mode eris is more fun.
>>722497831Transistor?
>>722492883Eris is fucking terrible, a literal definition of a BPDemon. She reminds me about Sera in dragon age inquisition.Hecate, Odysseus and Moros are just bland. Only Dora is fun.
>>722497882hecate is more interesting once you learn that she's mel from another timeline.
>>722497875Actual unique and fun combat, much more cohesive story, style and presentation, better music, doesn't overstay its welcome.
>>722497940Being a walking brick wall from another timeline doesn't exactly make her any better.
>>722497863>regular eris is one of the easiest bosses in the game once you learn to glue yourself to her ass.exactly my point, with the arena smaller it's even easier to be on her ass at all times
>>722498037>with the arena smaller it's even easier to be on her ass at all timesher toolkit is very different, you don't need to stick to her nearly as much, nor will you be able to because she's spawning a lot more environmental hazards.
The Scylla song where she confesses to Mel is so sweet. What game can I play where something like that isn't treated like a joke? Or where there's actual romance behind the song.
>>722478509If you didn't like Hades 1, you won't like Hades 2.If you did like Hades 1, there's still a chance you won't like Hades 2 thanks to the combat being heavily neutered due to how strong charge moves are, and Melinoe being far less interesting and charismatic than Zagreus. In fact she almost never quips or interacts with conversations, she only responds. Almost borderline deadpan compare to Zag who had a smart ass response to half the NPC's in his own game.
>>722492753The Odyssey is a shounen anime.
This seems broken
>>722498813I would had something like that if that edgy woman wasn't there.
>>722498736Odyssey is just Illiad Shippuden.
>>722498813freeze doesn't scale at all, gotta be one of the worst things to level up.
>Eris gets the aspect of Luciferjust when I thought I couldn't hate her more.
>>722499078All the attacks/flourishes only get damage when scaling
Well that took a while.Got insanely lucky with my greater chaos below run (aspect of eos, only rivals 1 and knuckle bones for the final area)
>>722498813mogged by base aphrodite
>>722499310I'd rather do 5x damage all the time and freeze than deal 7x damage close up.
>>722482230I was fooled by the smart guys at /v/ who said this aspect was a good choice. THIS WEAPON SUCKS!! Give me back my resources
>>722498462Funny as it is for her to immediately lie and say jetty wrote it, I do wish they’d done something more with it.
>>722499310She's literally unbeatable...
>>722485817CARTILAGINOUS PUSSY
>>722499737hades is all about comboing, you're supposed to use your freezing skill on rotation when the debuff goes away. it's a bad investment because you're not supposed to be spamming the freeze skill.
>>722499997Not my problem that damage is good enough that Aphrodite is overkill and crowd control is preferred. If they want me to combo they should design it better.
>>722496234The first game being the bait. Then they shove all the bullshit into the second game and piggy back on the first games name etc... Another example of this is Ghost of Yotei from Tsushima
>>722500238>anon didn't read how freeze worksit's like hephaistos, it's a cd mate. you're not going to get "more crowd control" by using it more.
>>722478509Mel is hot but otherwise it's just the first game but worse.
>>722478509I bought it a couple days ago and am enjoying it for all the same reasons I enjoyed the first one. Also you can go in the hot springs with the sexy lady characters.
im gonna do rivals 4, what's the most blatantly overpowered build I can useI was gonna go poseidon attack + zeus air quality + freezegust cast + heph special on twin staves with exploding specials
>>722492652Because everyone in the present except Melinoe is trapped in Chronos time shit and Zag was the one causing the alternate reality so only he and Chronos got to experience it. It's retarded and makes zero fucking sense logically but that's basically the reasoning.The entire ending is insanely hamfisted and feels utterly forced just to validate the epilogue so the game can keep going in the same way Hades 1 lets you play endlessly as if the game needed a story reason for it.
I've already beaten cronos 5 times and tyhpon once, what the hell do I have to do now????
>>722502242Keep beating Typhon. Gayest fight in the game and you have to kill him at least 5 times and Chronos 7 times.
>>722502242did you get gigaros? if so, beat typhon until you unlock the dissolution of monstrosity
>>722502242I did it the other way around and the gods started telling me to start beating Chronos. Did they not tell you to start beating the other guy more?
>>722500434>it's like hephaistosFreeze works on any new targets regardless of cooldown, and it always inflicts a debuff for Origination
>>722502658point being is that if you use freeze on your main skill you're a retard.
>>722500434No way it works like that lmao.
>>722502708Hitting twice with your main attack and killing the frozen enemies is faster than stopping to attack with your secondary attack and then needing to attack twice with your main one anywayI don't know why you're so against proccing Origination. It's good. Aphrodite LMB + Demeter RMB isn't going to proc it.
>>722479117There's a bathhouse where you can bathe with a character you like, that's very charming I think.
>>722478509Basically only a bit more difficult. If you liked Hades 1 you'll like Hades 2. Zag was a better protag but Mel is still alright.
>>722491039You were fighting the god of time. What the fuck did you expect?
>>722478509Hades 1 was great, but it should have received a DLC or two like any good Roguelite. At the very least continued updates with new content. Instead they put that effort into a sequel, the game is extra grindy, there's like twice the content, and the odd mechanics have been replaced or polished. This is basically how Hades 1 should've have been played. Yes, it is true Zag is a more charming character than Mel, but Zag is probably in the top 100 videogame characters, if we're just going by personality. You can't bank on lightning striking twice. Mel is charming and Zag is still a character in Hades 2 so it's not a huge loss.
>>722482098Spoilers butZag is literally the MVP and once again saves the day with the power of family
>>722492652Bad game has a bad ending
>Supergiant surprises everyone with one last content update for Hades 2>All weapons get a 2nd Hidden Aspect tied to some surface god/myth from other cultures (to contrast the others all being underworld/death myths from other cultures)What would you want to see if this dream came true?
>zag has like 3 minutes of screentime>utterly mogs melinoe in her own gamekek
Game is good, yes. My favorite weapon sof ar is the shooty one, because the Adamant Rail was my favorite in the first one, too
>>722495430The secret behind all of this is that no one, the devs least of all, give a fuck about what you screeching retarded ape likes or dislikes. Go scream about skin colors somewhere else.
>>722506013aspect of Odin for the staff would be a no brainer
>>722478509any mod to change the portraits to anime style characters?
How do I get good at using rerolls?
Does Hade 2 have more variety? I was so disappointed when 2 was announced instead of a DLC.
>>722507643Yes it does, but it may not feel that way because of how much it borrows from the first game.
Torches suck dick, btw
I refuse to give these people money after the nonsense in the first game with best girl
>>722479117>>722478659>>722478509I think Mel works because unlike Zag, she plays the straight man for all the quirky characters and there's a lot more weird quirky dudes in 2 than in 1. It's rather hilarious to see Mel try being positive and matching the energy of someone who's hilariously psychotic like Ares or Medea whereas she's like "yeah you go man" in response to "I'm cooking up the mother of all curses, 9 billion dead mortals soon". I think this works really well in some interactions but a lot of times it feels like Mel lets characters walk over her though, it's a mixed bag. The graphics, art direction, and general gameplay is better than 1's at the cost of the story being frankly less personal and not as well written. Certainly a good game with more content than the 1st, but I'd say it's a step down in terms of overall design from Hades 1 with just how tight and well made the first game is. It still has some great kino though, like the true ending song ride
Anyone else think the surface bosses are a bit undercooked?
>>722508257Eos is actually rather good though>>722508753I think they're better than the underworld bosses except for Typhon who's kinda just there while you beat him up for 2 minutes
>>722478509>Is Hades 2 worth it?No. It's boring and uninspired, and the art sucks.
>>722508941retard
>>722479779>the hot main characterYou mean the cute Medusa maid.
Chaos trials are shameless padding
>>722508538mel is a fake character girlboss 'i can do everything better than you' waste of space with slopped AI art
>>722492652Time shenanigans
>silksong threads hitting bump limit in 2-3 hours>hades threads dyingbros... what went wrong?
>>722500541>Mel is hot
heracles and prometheus fucking each other before you get to their rivals battle!
Can you romance this guy or Hercules? Pls tell me you can
>>722509394hades 2 was in early access for like a year and a half
>>722478509its literally the same game.
>>722509207>slopped AI artwtf are you talking about
>>722509464i wish, but neither are available. the male options are moros and icarus
>>722509394Nothing weird about that. It doesn't even mean Hades 2 is less fun (though I think it is). Silksong is a structured game with many static levels and a lot of bosses, items, and different movesets to talk about. All you can talk about in Hades 2 is a handful of bosses, a few different biomes and weapons, the different boons, and the characters.Also because of the long early access period.
>>722509570what was the quality of the EA threads?
>>722509464Coolest boss in the game, he even has one of the best themes.
It's hilarious seeing all these /pol/ rejects try to doompost the game and start a culture war, but it's not working since the game is actually good. Nice job not falling for all the bait, /v/.
I got the first ending. Should I just cheat 100000 bones like I did in the first game?
>>722510395you can keep on top of the requirements by alternating between making nectar and ambrosia in the cauldron. The chaos trials help speed them up, too
>>722500541The gameplay is objectively better in all aspects.
>>722478509Have exactly the same question.Like, the genre is really not my thing, but from the big/popular ones I thought the first one was the worst of them by quite a large margin.It's like the AAA of indies, pretty but with the content and depth of a puddle, I really didn't get its score or the second's one if it's just the same thing but even more repetitive by virtue of being a sequel and not fresh.
>>722506176>that fakeout "ok i will just kill you then" before it gets revealed he actually dragged him to the house and made him stick around until Mel was born
>>722509439Am I going insane or is her artwork not consistent between the different poses and whatnot?
>>722512443It's her red eye. The pupil is practically invisible outside the bath scenes, which combined with her black schlera makes her look goofy as fuck unless she's in a pose that hides it.
I want to FUCK Mel
Now that the dust has settled, what is the best route?
>>722512591Scylla, pls
I have 34 hours in Hades 1, and 38 in Hades 2, and stopped for the same reason. The story is drip fed and the results of dying in the first screen is the same as finishing a run at high-ish heat. IMO if you actually finish a run, you should get dialog as if you did multiple short/failed runs. The tedium of seeing these characters interact stretched over many hours of gameplay told in literally two back and forth exchanges killed my interest.
ares and demeter for hidden aspect axe? or what boons?
>>722513860Ares is always ass
>>722478659>less charming MCIt's not just her that's boring, everyone else is too. Why are they all so serious?
>>722513860Only go with Ares if you're willing to Aresmax or only get a single boon to activate an Ares focused duo.He's the worst god in the game to dip in to.
>>722514520>single boonsingle other boon*
>>722514150>Why are they all so serious?Eris, please.
>>722514520>>722514143so I fucked up?
>>722515552It's only fear 12, you can honestly do whatever and it'll be fine.
Rival chronos or rival typhon? which is the REAL kino final boss?
>>722514150I gues because the circumstances are more serious in this one
>>722516032Rival Typhon
>>722516032On the one hand, Chronos is a far fairer fight than Typhon and feels much more rewarding to beat.On the other, fuck having to fight rivals Cerberus to get to him.
>>722478659Wild monkey sex with Eris (we slap, bite and scratch each other the entire time)
>>722478509If you liked Hades 1 and thought it was a good game you'll probably also like Hades 2 and think it's a good game. Worth noting is that the gameplay in Hades 2 is probably better but the plot/premise/writing is worse. I've seen mixed opinions on the protagonist but personally I think she's fine, what problems it has aren't really her fault.
Why was Typhon sold as this unstoppable force that could destroy Olympus when all it took to kill him is a spear?
>>722516339It's explained. It's not the spear. It's the witchy bullshit hax she put on the spear making use of a mix of Typhon's essence and Chronos time hax to allow Typhon to be super destroyed. Even that also requires Zeus' aid and (usually) Mel juiced up on the boons from the pantheon to take him down. The gods even comment postgame how they are kinda scared that Mel worked out a way to kill immortals
>>722516339It was a spear enchanted with a witch's curse using materials from Typhon himself and Chronos. So not really "just a spear".>>722516032I don't even wanna know what Rival Typhon is like, I find the regular fight to be complete utter fucking ass. Tedious as fuck and some of the projectile combos seem completely unfair and bullshit.
>>722516032For me it was rival chronos. I beat rival typhon on the first attempt with a death defiance to spare, whereas rival chronos took several attempts. On the other hand I think I was probably relatively lucky on the typhon kill and relatively unlucky for the chronos ones.
>>722515927The testament system has me doing low fear levels
Hades 1 is better.
>>722516862Same though I found Rival Typhon more cinematic as a final boss between Chronos pulling shenanigans and Typhon just sorta weakly flailing around for the victory lap if you manage to survive
>>722516756I find Typhon way easier than Chronos. Typhon doesn't move so it's way easier to figure out his AI and patterns.
So why should Mel romance anyone but Icarus when he's the sole reason she lost her arm? Does he have more of a story focus compared to the other 3?
Are any of the blade aspects kino?just unlocked morrigan...
>>722517589she's a slutbut it's not her fault, it's family tradition, her uncle is the biggest slut of all
what boons for the staff?
>>722517589Where do you learn that? I didn't even realise she'd lost her arm, I assumed it was just glowy for some witchy reason.
don't laugh but cerberus is the boss i always end up taking the most damage against
>>722517019>Hades 1 is better.in terms of character and story yes, for everything else, no.
>>722518209what's supposed to be the safe zone from rivals cerberusi always end up trying to circle around his back but he has so many random nearly full screen aoes
>>722517764I like Pan because the special is really good. Morrigan is pretty good but the special is awkward and makes the combo finicky because of how it works. Great damage but feels very clunky.
>>722518209His slam AoEs are incredibly deceptive if you're trying to melee him.Rivals can just fuck right off
>>722518369For everything else yes.>WeaponsBetter in 1>BoonsBetter in 1>Daedalus hammerSuch fucking trash in 2 that I feel bad calling them trash as I am offending trash
>>722509207>slopped AI artI think your brain is sick, man. Get some help.
So what do you do against End of Time Chrono as melee
>>722478509No
>>722517875For Mel staff Zeus attack start because with Huntress you can trigger it with 1 special.For Cersei Zeus cast.For Momus I usually go Hera on attack and gain + Poseidon cast + omega cast boons.For Anubis scorch/blitz on attack.
>>722518953Unga bunga harder
>>722519023Splash on Anubis is fucking hilarious as well.
What's a good build for high fear runs? I've tried Medea but it doesn't really feel right and ends up dying more often than not
>>722518953He's got openings after some of his combos, usually after he stops rushing.
take the strengthpill
>>722519172The same as low fear, you just play better.
Is 1.0 much different than the early access version ?
>>722519172If you max out hordes and buff enemies, poseidon/hera work pretty well. Hitch enemies with an aoe, then watch them commit mass suicide as they attack.Naturally you need something decent for single target
>>722519172Helios axe spin to win
>>722519509Not much, but it has decent amount of new content.
>>722519509The biggest change is the weapons. The truly shit ones got changed so you don't have to abuse the one broken aspect.
>>722509140Cute maid ruined by her voice actor. The voice actor got the romance plot removed because she didn't want to read romantic lines.
>>722519973that's bullshit but i believe it
>>722519973has there ever been a corroboration for this?I hear it all the time, but the most recent time a VA got uppity in Hades it ended with them getting the boot
I'm missing one keepsake
>>722520305echo? from the mourning fields
>>722520305missing one keepsake... missing one keepsake... one keepsake...
>>722520339I can't gift her anything I think??
why can't you clam slam the spider?
>>722520305what are the chibi heads for?
>>722520437try again hoe>>722520454means you've maxed out your bond with them
>>722520454they mean you've maxed out your bond with them>>722520437talk to her, then gift
>>722478509It's another VN where the chapters and character interactions are seperated by 30 minute runs so if you liked it the first time you'll like it now that theres more *stuff*
>>722500393You could fuck your male friend in the first one
What do you think is the best aspect for every weapon?
>>722509439Imagine getting a handy from that ghost hand
>>722520531motherfucker I have 50 hours in, why is she the only character you can only gift after talking in the game
>>722521443Circe, Morrigan, Moros, Charon, Medea, NyxI think this is pretty uncontroversial.
>>722509673>the male options are moros and icarusWhy are they so against letting people actually burly male-looking men?
YASSS KWEEEN
>>722508257I miss the original special they had
Fighting Rival chronos tonight... what's my best option here?
If I sell Renewed Faith, do I lose the death defiances it granted me? Nothing about the wording suggest I should need to keep the boon to keep the death defiances, but I don't trust this game.
>>722522581I've seen some people claiming Nergal is over Charon, but yea, I'd agree with your list.
>>722509439Was the green arm ever explained?
>Look at morrigan proc requirements>this sounds really easy!>mfw trying the special
>>722523056dark
>>722523056fewer reinforcements. They're a pain in the dick second phase.dark if you've got something like morph
HEPHAISTUS IS SO ASS
I enjoyed it a lot, am about done with the game. But have started skipping dialog a lot at some point. It just feels all pointless and I don't think Mel is really close with anyone in the game, not even Hecate. The final gift dialog for every single character is a complete joke.
>>722523317I don't get this meme. For me he is pretty much the best boon by far.
>>722523317He's similar to ares in that he only comes into his own if you focus on him, but unlike ares he's not utter shit if you dip in
>>722478509No on both fronts.Hades 1, the gameplay was sharp and high-paced. RNG was balanced and intuitive, but Bloodstone augments were almost always your bad rolls, not because they were weak per se, but because using it pulled you out of the gameplay loop. Ironically it was so balanced, that you could pretty reliably get clears far earlier than the game intended, so the narrative would be playing catchup, since the game was more skill focused than RNG roll focused. Visually, the game has a unique snappiness to it, that compliments the gameplay, since everything is actually 2D pre-renders in a 3D space - subtle, but you notice it once it's pointed out. That, and each region is massively distinct (Red-Green Tartarus, Orange Asphodel, Light Green Elysium, Brown Styx and White Surface).Hades 2 comes along, and they decide to make the entire fucking game revolve around Spells, which are somehow even less engaging than Bloodstone, the weapons are less fun; and your augments are far more make-or-break to the point you can get totally fucked by RNG. You don't get Casts from any Boon any more (only Selene), the Gods don't always have duo-boons or rivalries. The bosses are less engaging, the enemies are simpler, the rooms are almost entirely empty squares (compared with the first one which at least threw walls, pits and hazards in to break up an approach) with a fuckton of visual clutter that blurs the environment, and environments that are the same bland colors (washed green Erebus, washed turquoise Oceanus, washed out brown Field, dark brown Tartarus) and a significantly worse OST. And this is on top of it being easier to develop for, since they just made the game a 3D space, with the associated rendering and performance hit, and what I'm almost certain is more input lag.
As for the VN side; the first was a good example of an obviously left-leaning game that didn't force itself down your throat. Most of the bitching could easily be passed off as interpretation or reasonable takes - the Gods were either grey, tanned or shaded out, like moodier versions of the Disney Hercules Gods. It had places where it definitely pushed it's luck (I can overlook the Zag fag route even if it tries to nudge you into it, but Achilles being full gay is just wrong, considering he literally had a wife, not!harem and children) (also the Medusa shitshow), but overall, just a left leaning game - nothing wrong with an opinion, since it was mostly on point otherwise.Hades 2 on the other hand is obnoxious about it, and inaccurate to the point of open disrespect and not giving a fuck about the source material or setting. Ignoring the politics, having Chronos and Kronos as the same entity or that the magic and symbology is mostly wiccan is enough that I don't give a fuck what story they're telling. But since it shoves it in your face to the point you can't ignore the politics, they turned Hermes into a full chink, Hera is a pajeet and Hestia is a nigger with down syndrome and partial vitiligo. Ones nobody talks about - Dionysus is two shades browner, and shoves his fucking nuts in your face any time he's on screen. Hypnos goes from a cocky assistant who happens to be a twink, to a half-naked twink who happens to supposed to be taken seriously (and is also 100 tones darker). Who does this benefit? What's the purpose? Oh it's a vague religion that had no racial qualities? So why is Athena, direct patron of Athens, not an Athenic ideal? Are you going to make the other Gods whose weapons you borrow follow the same logic? Is the Jade Emperor latino? Is Rama an eskimo? Is Shango a white man? Fuck off, you know what they're doing.
They even had a cool thing going with Chaos being a fair example of a nonbinary character, a unbiased heap of creation, but fucked it to make it a girlboss. Did I mention girlbosses? Almost every single woman is the same strong independent manjawed hag (including the children like Scylla), but the men are almost all conventionally sexualised with rippling muscles.And to top it all off, the FeMC is as stale as dried fucking bread and a total charisma leech compared to the cool headed but still witty Zagreus.tl;dr they had lightning in a bottle and didn't know what to do with it, and couldn't help themselves from fucking it up. Glad I pirated it and played it blind, dropped like a rock after my first Chronos clear despite 100%ing the first. Won't be fooled again.
>>722492753A lot of the designs are too twinky. Narcissus is particularly egregious because it's a total mismatch with the VA.
>words words words>"dropped like a rock after my first Chronos clear"another retard filtered
aspect of supay any good?
>>722524371Very slow start but once you get some upgrades it's pretty good
Hestia Demeter, or Zeus Demeter cast build?
How do I Hel? what boons? been using medea for ages want to try something new...
>>722524614Omega special and autofire their ass. I like using Poseidon (on the attack) and Aphrodite or Ares.
Just unlocked Supay as my last Hidden Aspect.Holy fuck, why is Ygnium so damn good? Every aspect of it is nuts. All the gimmicks feel great to use. I know the Sister Blades are technically probably better on DPS, but Ygnium just feels so damn cool in all the interaction forms.
>>722523773Almost all of that is bullshit though. For one the massively upgraded god-summon boons does tremendous work to actually allow you the player to influence the RNG to match what you need, making you a lot less likely to get screwed by RNG than in the first game. Which could be a critique in itself depending on your perspective. But you certainly don't get RNG fucked in the way you describe. Also. I'd argue the areas are a lot more distinct than the areas of Hades1. Not only are there more map hazards, but they're more distinct as well. And with the larger rooms, the shapes are also more unique on average. And the enemies of the different regions are largely more distinct as well with how more distinct enemy gimmicks having been made more common. Elysium is really the only place with enemies and hazards that truly stand out in the first game. Not even the presumably distinct feature of asphodel's enemies that drop bombs on death is unique to asphodel.
>>722524371The Omega attack gives the autoshot unlimited passthrough of targets which can be very funny with chain lighting. The rush boon bonus is a meme tho
special black coat is pretty fun. attack feels like worse daggers though
>>722478509Woke pozzed garbage
>>722523672Ares got good Cast and Omega upgrades and can be worth the dip for those. His other boons demand some further investments to really pull their weight though.
>after beating Chronos, Melinoe takes it upon herself to train and get stronger in case a threat greater than Chronos appears in the future Wow, will you look at that, a justification to keep the game's roguelike runs going and its 100000000x better than the horseshit supergiant came up with.
>>722522667Where's the lie? She's exactly right. They're gods, they don't have to bother with monogomy. They should get all hot and bothered with each other no matter what others think.I'm more pissed that I haven't found a way to fuck Nemesis yet despite maxing her out first. I'm starting to guess that Mel doesn't fuck any of them unlike Zag. Which would suck, but I guess she's just too constantly on the job to have a night banging like her brother was up for.
>>722524003But chaos isn't a girlboss. I'm going to charitable and presume you're just trolling instead of being retarded.
>>722525206No, you do, and I had the same problem. You need to get Doom's relationship to near max so he and Nem will have a little talk about jealousy that you can overhear, then you get a blurb from Eris, and then you and Nem bone the next time you run into her in the field
>>722524614Beat a 20 Fear Surface run (last needed for that Testament) with VoR Typhon using Hel. I got Demeter on the shot and Poseidon on the special. Worked out pretty well together. Was a bit slow, but since you can play at such range, you can just git gud at dodging and not worry as much.
>>722525370Oh, great. I got the fight already done, and I think Eris may have said something, so I'll see if I can get her on another underworld run eventually.Was hoping she'd be actually for boning considering how horny she got that one time they competed.
>>722523773>are far more make-or-break to the point you can get totally fucked by RNG.The fuck are you talking about?Barring a non reroll denial run, it's impossible to get so utterly fucked by RNG that you can't salvage it. You only get screwed if you have an autistic obsession with one build and refuse to change even as you get contrary gods and boons.
I'm almost at the epilogue and Moros and Medea still won't STOP YAPPING ABOUT RANDOM SHIT. GIVE ME THE """HIDDEN""" ASPECT YOU FUCKS.
>>722497831Nothing will be worse than the garbage fire that is pyre
>>722478509just reached the end. holyshit. you guys weren't kidding, it's really bad. why the fuck did they decide to have zaggy be the one to keep the memories of the alternate timeline instead of melinoe. like the ending would still be bad but at least it wouldn't be a complete disaster on every level like it is right now.
>>722525797Max out a non-Mel aspect, you retard
>>722526025My brother in christ I have every aspect but anubis and nyx maxxed.
>>722478509All supergiant games play the same, but each one is gayer than the last.
hestia would be dogshit if not for her having the best mana regeneration boon
>hidden aspects>no aspect of jesus christ Hire me supergiant
>>722526245You're wrong because she has the second highest attack damage bonus while also providing a debuff that has marginal utility, and then the ability to give up all her shit to boost Zeus, the undisputed GOAT to insane levels
The art style in the sequel is horrendous, Dionysus and Hestia genuinely makes me wanna puke.
>>722526245hestia just has a bunch of useful buffs in general. I don't think I'm ever disappointed in getting her vs other gods who are actual shit like poseidon.
>>722526703Poseidon boons always look shit on paper but they absolutely shred.
>>722523065>If I sell Renewed Faith, do I lose the death defiances it granted me?I'm tempted to sell it for science. But if I lose my death defiances it'd be forfeiting my run.
>>722526703>not wanting to end the night with like 4000 gold
I liked the game but now that I simply can't get the RNG dialogue with Prometheus that I need to unlock the epilogue I'm really starting to hate it.
>>722526703I like running Poseidon with rapid hit weapons like aspect of hel, I stand by rail being the best weapon in 1
>>722526703>who are actual shit like poseidonSea Star is one of the most over powered boons in the entire game. Buried Treasure likewise can totally flip the run economy on its head and make shops super useful. It's kind of funny. Hermes has like two gold-centric boons, and Buried Treasure is more potent than both of them combined. But things like Wave Flourish really is the premiere boon for low-power multi-hit attacks like Pan's Specials, and or the Black Coat rockets. Especially alongside Slippery Slope. And if you get King Tide you've basically won. Oh, Geyser Spout is also kind of busted with certain builds.
I love it when a plan comes together
>>722527335After you get Chronos' trinket money boons are pointless for the entire rest of the game.
>>722524317>you don't eat shit? filtered>>722524981Chalk it to personal experience in terms of RNG (I'm not playing again to find out); but >Elysium is really the only place with enemies and hazards that truly stand out in the first game. Tartarus is conventional traps with conventional enemies to start you on your run.Asphodel is surrounded by magma hitzones that can and will delete your healthbar, compounded with enemies that focus on zoning (bombs, stomps, gorgons freezing you as a setup etc) or chasing them around the magma. And this is before boat sequences.Styx's design makes each room oppressive compounded with the large amount of enemies designed to get free small hits off of you, and heavy traps / cleavers etc that punish you for rushing too much.Each filters a part of your build. Tartarus is a basic build check, Asphodel is a survivability filter, Elysium is a damage check, Styx is a speed check. If you lack health / mobility / durability in Asphodel you get burnt, if you lack damage in Elysium you get overwhelmed, if you can't do it fast and consistantly in Styx you get chip damaged'd to death.I didn't get that in Hades 2. Each area is just generic layout that doesn't particularly filter any part of your build. The rooms are so open, you're never playing around being backed into a corner (the screen clutter in the foreground is honestly the most oppresive it gets).Never played the ascent run, don't imagine it's much better>>722525314What if it's not trolling?What if you just look at the two fucking portraits; the original being a mass of flesh suspended in the universe with a vaguely human upper half, complete with wings, and eyes within eyes and a reverberated vague voice; while the redesign drops the oracular eyes, drops the mass of flesh, turns the Earth into earrings, gives a tied up huge ponytail, thick pouty lips with a softer voice commandingly dressed in a sharp suit and looking at a baby.It's more openly feminine than Aphrodite.
How high do testaments go? did a 20 fear testament and now that slot is gone for good
>>722525797>it's a Circe refuses to appear or if she appears she talks about dumb shit episodeget me out of here
>>722527335>>722527090>poseidon is good in these specific builds or can POTENTIALLY be good by giving you moneyyeah and the majority of other gods are good regardlessly of what build you are doing and don't relay on "muh potential charon shopping spree" when you aren't even garanteed that he will sell you shit that's good or useful to your specific build. I stand by my words that poseidon sucks and hermes is not much better.
>>722478509It's a generally worse Hades 1. The combat still has the depth of a puddle, just a slightly deeper one than the first game, and the plot and MC are just awful.
>>722527642>It's more openly feminine than Aphrodite.Bro you're fucking ridiculous. NuChaos looks like a korean twink idol, sure. But if you think he looks more feminine than Aphrodite then you have got to be gay or something.
>>722527642>It's more openly feminine than Aphrodite.holy fuck you're a gigantic faggotit all makes sense now
>>722527707Every weapon gets every boss once ending at 20
>>722527793Sea Star doesn't just give you money though. Sea Star also gives you Max HP. Max MP. Boon levels. Hex upgrades. And then it gives you money ontop of all that. Also his rush and cast skills are above average regardless.
>>722527642>The rooms are so open, you're never playing around being backed into a cornerBe honest, what version of the game was the last one you played? Because you not only sound retarded but I'm thinking your experiences are also massively out of date.
>>722527841>>722527909>ahh yes, clearly a man
nem sex
>>722527810I thought this too at first but then played Hades 1 and it definitely feels worse all around.Hades 2 is about 15% better in all gameplay departments with double the bosses and levels which was badly needed, even in Hades 1 the amount of meaningful content they stretched to a 100 hour game was absolute bullshit. Still not enough but it's far better. Characters and story are total shit though and of course this game has zero novelty which was a big deal for Hades 1 with the first roguelite game that ever had a good story and characters.
>"OH EM GEE I'M DASHING AROUND THE SCREEN SO FAST, HAHAHA THIS IS GREAT YOU CAN'T HIT ME"Hades 1 sucked, pirated and uninstalled. If it was made in the 90s probably would've been a fantastic action/platformer.
>>722527841>>722527909They literally said they designed Aphrodite to look like a tranny in both games because she's supposed to represent male and female sexuality at once, and that Chaos was more feminine in the second game because it was mourning + assuming the role Nyx was while she was missing.Anon is describing the developers intentions, you're the ones who are trying to hard.
>>722527957so only 20? that's lame but it's very generous
>>722528471>If it was made in the 90s probably would've been a fantastic action/platformerPlatformer? What kind of AI are you using for your posts that it fucks up something so basic?
>>722528634What's even the point of testament? Only the weapon upgrade resource?
>>722523065>>722526891pretty sure you just lose the "increased potency" partwhen you sell the hera boon that buffs one other boon the buffed one doesn't lose rarity either
Bros Goth Scylla has me feeling a certain way
>>722528630>Anon is describing the developers intentionsNo. Anon is claiming NuChaos looks more feminine than Aphrodite. Chaos looks androgynous in both games. Looking 10 to 20 % more feminine doesn't mean Chaos looks feminine nor that Chaos looks more feminine than any of the actually female characters.
>>722528746>when you sell the hera boon that buffs one other boon the buffed one doesn't lose rarity eitherDoesn't it lose the added levels though?
>>722528964no, that's why it sells for peanuts, like 30-40 gold
I kind of want to criticize the game for a bunch of things but it feels pointless doing so because it's such a super safe sequel. Even supergiant games knows they made the most risk free kind of game they could ever make, which is fine since the economy is so shit. So it doesn't feel like there is a point getting invested too much.
You see this? This is what is wrong. This is what MOBA-shit did to gaming. Particle effects, player movement abilities, "ults" should never be larger than the sprite of the player itself unless it's an actual explosion animation.This is just some stupid default movement ability in Hades 2. And it's not just cucked indie devs doing this, it's in Nioh, all jrpgs, all fighting games and especially in the upcoming Ninja Gaiden.You may now cry about my post.
>>722524003Bro. Meds. Now.They fucked up Chaos by making it a kpop star instead of an actual unknown entity, not because of some nonbinary girlbossing.
>>722528730Get people to use different weapons on an escalating fear to force them to try out different stuff with a good difficulty curve.
>>722529391Yeah but what do you get for doing the arbitrary number that is 48?
>>722529526? Testaments only go up to 20 because at that point they figure you know whether you like the weapon or not. Do you mean champion of the night or whatever that gives the Skelly statues?
You can sell this btw and the levels stay.
>>722529640I mean the counter going up indicating there are 48 testaments. Is there no reward for doing them all?
>>722526321We already got Lucifer so it wouldn't be far off, a whip maybe?
Kind of super nitpick and I know it was like that in Hades 1 but holy shit is the fishing minigame soulless.
>>722529769Oh, idk, 48 is just 6x8 which is the number of weapons times the number of testaments per weapon. Probably an achievement, dunno if there's an in game reward tho
i like playing with the sickle and knife cos i can go for backstabs and say i'm londoning people i felt my heart warm when i saw that they made circe a literal slampig, can't believe she had all that and still whiffed odysseusi liked heracles slowly warm up to mel i want to have wild unprotected sex with dora and most importantly of alli had funi genuinely dislike hestia's design it feels shapeless, and i'm someone who doesn't really mind how weirdly brown everyone is
>>722529879Post game you get a cauldron thing that lets you autocollect shit by walking out the door including fish.
>>722529271it's perfectly acceptable if it's an ability that deals damage to enemies you pass through, because it makes no sense without that effect
>>722529782JC was a carpenter so the daggers in the form of hammer and saw, or the staff in wooden form given he's the Shepard of men.
>>722529782Or the spear of Longinus
>>722529979When? I'm 65 hours in and way past the ending.
>>722530178The staff would fit Moses better
>>722530273When you collect shit ton of resources manually.
>>722522581Maybe Selene over Nyx, Melinoe over Circe and Nergal Over Charon? But it's a good list, yeah
rate Scylla's discographyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7QSavYWEE0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQFEcBIf8z0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmYLiPtfPfkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4VT-_mEM_0
>I know I spent all this time working to free my family, but I'm not staying because I don't know you people and the silver sisters are my real familyHoly fuck, what a disaster of an ending.
>>7225305121. Rock and a Hard Place2. Bewitching Eyes3. Shared between the other two songs, they are basically the same shit
>>722530512Bewitching eyes = tear out your eyes>coral crown>rock and hard place Hard call though, they don’t have a dud
>>722506176>mogs moeline in her own g-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAUT6zLAd5UACK
>>722530318Moses should be the umbral flames but a branch that's on fire. It's closer to his story and hannuka stuff.
>>722530512I think the duet with Charybdis is a real low point. Other than the funny Charybdis screeching it just doesn't hit the same as others. Coral Crown is my favourite.
>>722509140One of the cruelest bait and switch in the history of video games.Make a very clear best girl who's into you, and then make her not want to date you.
>>722530974>one death defiance>zero boonsyeah, makes sense he'd go down like a chump
It would be kind of funny if Zagreus brought Chronos back into the family but Mel refused to accept it and kept killing Chronos over and over instead of the bullshit we got with the timeline possibility cop out shit and at the end it was revealed that Chronos was actually an evil motherfucker and Mel was in the right and power of friendship is not always the answer. Friendly Chronos is such a shit character and contributes zero to the game.
>>722522605You'll romance your state mandated bishie boy twink and you'll like it.
Moelini should be able to romance Zagreusboth romans and greeks aproved of divine incest
Mel is like Jack without any charisma.>KILL CHRONOS
>>722522605we should be able to romance chad Heracles
>>722531471I still love the fact that people haven't connected Persephone is Hades' niece despite Demeter admitting Chronos is her father
Crossroads doesn't even feel like a militarized group. The death to chronos shit would have been actually fun as fuck if everyone in that group was out for serious blood instead of just being a group of faggots.
>>722531764>Persephone is Hades' niece despite Demeter admitting Chronos is her fatherThat would make her his half sister, not niece.
>>722522605Despite Heracles not being a romance option, I hate the fact that Icarus is. That fucker always shows up and floods the whole screen with circles that it's hard for me to see what I actually need to dodge.
>30 nights in>still havent unlocked a single hidden aspectHow the fuck do i get them? I've had artemis blades at 5 and momo staff at 2 for half the game it feels like. Defeated chronos 6 times and typhon 1
any ideas of boons for circe staff?I ran with zeus cast and it was quite good
>>722531973You need to unlock all the aspects first i.e. actually buy and equip them if you haven't already
>>722531893>Chronos had Hades and Demeter>Demeter has PersephoneHades is her Uncle.This is of course assuming we are ignoring all the parts of mythos that aren't said in game like how Zeus is Persephone's father making Persephone having 100% Chronos and Gaia DNA
>>722531973Don't know what triggers it but Circe, Medea, Selena and Moros dialog give them to you. I'm almost 70 hours into the game and that slut Selena still hasn't given me hers yet.
How do I finish this one? is this the secret epilogue?
>>722532135Yeah misread it, 'ppreciate not being called a retard. They just don't mention incest because they pussied out, nothing else to it.
>>722532135This franchise doesn't follow Greek mythology one to one, Hestia, Hera and Demeter are not related to Poseidon, Zeus and Hades for example
>>722532319Just increase the friendship of the guys around you for most of those. The biggest bullshit in this list is the "seek who rebels against gods" one which is a RNG dialog triggered by Prometheus. So you have to run surface over and over and over and over and over till he gives it to you. I'm stuck at this part.
Is there another way to get stardust? The Chaos challenges drain all the will I have for playing this game. Just complete time waster "how can we create content without creating content" kind of bullshit you can think of. Binding of Isaac did this special rule kind of thing way better.
>>722532670High heat run altars, the broker or Charon can have it.That said, Chaos runs are pretty good when you’re waiting for an incantation to finish
>>722487331An i frame doesn't stop being an i frame just because it's a boss.
>>722478659>a mostly less charming main characterIt's arguably the point.Zag was raised by strict people and with everyone walking on eggshells around his grumpy dad, but he was still a spoilt prince who could get away with his bullshit. Him being a snarky asshole was just his way of lashing out against the system he was trapped in and getting under the skin of all the people who couldn't take a joke.Mel has been raised as a weapon since a child with her "family" being a bunch of tacticians and warriors thrown together to prepare for a war, with most having to go away for years to play their parts. Yeah, at first the witches played with her when she was too young, but as soon as she was old enough to be trained, her focus was entirely on "Kill your grandpa". Even Hecate admits some blame that she clearly fucked up somewhere raising her because it's clear that Mel takes jokes too literally.
>>722532967A patty is a patty, that's what I say
>>72253267012 heat altars, or buying them off the broker for like 1500 bones a pop. I didn't mind doing them personally, though. The low level ones are mindlessly facerolling with broken as shit builds, but the higher level ones are at least a bit of a challenge and then they're over. Each of them is like 5 minutes at max and they sometimes point out synergies that I never cared to try.
>>722532496>>722532496I took that into account by ignoring what's not mentioned. Demeter calls Zeus brother and is cited as one of the rebellious children of Chronos.So the relation is canonized in Hades, just not mentioned directly
>>722533068>and they sometimes point out synergies that I never cared to tryThat's the worst part though. They take away finding broken shit yourself which is half of the fun of this game.
>>722533053Mel was raised by Hecate, Odysseus, and Skelly,2/3rds of those should of given her character.
>>722533160I dunno, I played for like 50 hours in EA, and they were a nice way to force me out of my comfort zone of broken shit I knew how to make work
>>722523135Yes. It comes up when talking to IcarusShe tried to do a spell that was beyond her power to change Icarus from a standard shade back to looking human again, which ultimately cost her her arm. This is also why Icarus left the crossroads in shame, because he sees it as his fault that the woman he loved got maimed and thought everybody blamed him for it.
>>722533053That would make sense if the crossroads camp actually felt like a strict place with discipline but it's just house of hades light edition.
>>722533340So she lost her arm and got a magic one? Didn't she need the magic arm anyway to get in touch with grasp?
>80 hours and all the cheevos on Hades 1>49 hours, missing a bunch of achievements and prophecies and no secret ending on Hades 2I'm thinking about uninstalling 2, something is missing here
The hypnos storyline was such bullshit. It wasn't even funny like just getting kicked in the balls as a reward. It was just plain nothing.
>>722533639Thats the whole game.
>Try to swing with axe>have to dodge>try to swing with axe>have to dodge>try to swing>have to dodgehow does anyone use any fucking axe aspect other than charonblasting or maybe thanatos, runs feels impossible with a weapon this slow and vulnerable
>>722533053so Mel is autistic?
Any opinions on Odysseus? I think he would have worked great with Zagreus and Melinoe would have worked far better with Achilles as her mentor.
>>722533763>Lv3 Hephaestus in attack axe>1 shot everything It's a mystery
>>722533053Yea except they don't do anything with "raised as child soldier for her whole life" thing. Her goal is to kill Chronos just because thats what she was raised to do, and her motivation to get family back is because Chronos took it. But i guess it works out in the end because she doesn't change, and her goals don't change, and she doesn't care about her family and family doesn't seem to care about her so she can just grind chronos for eternity.
>>722533639>Continuing to do the Fates or Hypnos quests after the main Chronos plot resolvedWtf did you expect?
>>722534261The Chronos plot resolved with a kick to the balls at least. Hypnos is literally nothing.
>>722533829Not sure about autistic, but she definitely has a lot less social grace, even if it comes up rarely. There is a herc dialogue when he is angry and bewildered that hera gave mel her blessing "just like that" and mel responds with something like "why wouldn't she? We're family, obviously" and it made me laugh out loud, wish we had more stuff like that
>>722534031Story glazes him as great tactician and says how he organises war against Chronos except you never really see it in game and all dialogues with him are "princess i had reports theres enemies" "yes ive seen the enemies" "wow so reports are true" which is a waste of paper and ink they used for scripts. Should have seen him actually do something, maybe not personally but like "allied shades" doing shit, Achilles had an excuse because he was bound to just stand guard and felt way more charismatic and interesting to me.
Bro the great friendships Zagreus had with Sisyphus, Thanatos, Hypnos, Achilles, Dusa, the cook shade. What happened? It doesn't feel like Mel is close with anyone even at the end of the game.
>>722534171I'm pretty sure the original story was gonna be a timeline wipe but devs couldn't figure out how the endgame looping will work and decided to just go with the ass pull "dream world time travel mechanics doesn't change time" bullshit
>>722534031I don't get why mel considers him helpful when he is about as useful as hypnos was in hades 1. In terms of story, can't think of a moment that I liked other than "how we should name your journey" joke
>>722478509No. I don't play woke games with ugly characters
>>722479498Still not buying your trash
As a heterosexual male I find both Eris and Nemesis highly attractive and I like their personalities. Megaera looked like a tranny in Hades 1. But holy shit the romance in this game is literally -100/100.
>>722509439Why is this pose barely used and instead she's in the arms outstretched in "i dunno" pose that also hides her ghost arm behind text box. Doesn't help she constantly makes "woopsie-doopsie" face that just overall makes her look lame.
>>722535342>erisbro she's gonna kill you
>>722534031I'm disappointed. I really liked the "Skelly is Odysseus" hypothesis.
>>722533763On second swing and last hit you can dodge while you're attacking and it'll count as a normal attack not as a dodge attack, you can also dodge while you're charging your special. On nergal's aspect you can dodge during the first hit as well.
>>722535342>ErisWtf is the appeal? As a heterosexual male, I literally ship Mel and Schelemeus more
>>722533763Position better and you don't have to dodge. The axe is hard to use when you're learning the game because of its slowness, but slowness isn't as big a handicap when you instinctively move into enemy blind spots and openings to attack.
>>722535618Skelly being Odysseus was always a crack theory. The only thing supporting it was his "Seafarer Skellymeus" fib story.Now Skelly being Momus or Jason... Those new crack theories hold weight.
>>722534031He doesn't really achieve anything. He's a tactician who never actually plans anything, he just gets told about something and relays it to Mel when she's already seen it first-hand. Considering Hecate is also making a plan and seems a little more proactive in all the pieces she's moving, and he has zero input on going up as that's more Hermes pushing for that, it makes him feel pointless.His one actual use in the game is that he kind of serves as the middle man between the shades and the gods/titans in the camp, and passes on gifts to Mel on rare occasions. Makes it feel like his role should have been to someone acting as a chef and later a bartender for the camp, passing on gossip he hears amongst the shades and keeping spirits high.Realistically, the only meta reason he is there is because we encounter so many other characters he crossed paths with in his mythology, so he kind of had to be in there somewhere. But he doesn't even really have that much to say about any of them either.
>>722535342There's just no real chemistry between Mel and her female love interests. She has more of a spark with Scylla that could conceivably lead to hate-fucking.
>>722535691The appeal is breaking her in and curbstomping her so hard till she falls in love but because Mel has the personality of a wet blanket we don't get any of that.
How many people here are planning to 100% the game?
>>722526321>Jesus>Using those WEAK weaponsHe only needs the power of his fists and the Big Man Upstairs
>>722534965Hekate post-game stuff also makes the game make no sense or the "stuff" make no sense since it's just directly opposing everything that happened so far.Now im in the "imagining better game" phase of coping and i feel like maybe if Zag escaped time prison after first/couple of chronos kills and was an actual family for Mel it gave her someone to actually play off of and grow as a character instead of everything getting resolved in 1 minute at the end.
>>722533519Maybe notOther witches don't have green arms
>>722536018Nah, I'm too old now to do pointless chores like chaos challenges or converting kudos.
>>722531973Max out a non melinoe version of the weapon and then eventually a key npc will give you the secret code phrase when you run across em (varies between weapons. For example Charon is the axe one)
>>722535919Mel and Nem is a good rivals to frenemies story with Nem growing to actually respect Mel and what she can accomplish throughout the game. Eris is a fucking crackship that the devs just threw in because they needed a second female romance though.
>>722536069>Now im in the "imagining better game" phase of copingThey WILL release the real ending DLCTrust the plan
>>722536018was thinking about it until realising i have to grind olympus over and over to get progression. Maybe if theres chaos trial that puts me there and it does count i can just do that...
>>722536018I got to the Prometheus + Hercules fight before deciding 'fuck it'Game is fun, but it's just not worth the effort
>>722536018im not, ill beat all rivals bosses and then get the epilogue ending, then probably dip
>>722536078Have they ever mentioned using grasp?
>>722536245Tbf, the outrage of ME 3 led to the Citadel DLC which is playable after the campaign so you can headcanon it as an ending.
>>722536270Rival fights are the last real content of the game and they are not even that hard.
>>722536437I'll pretend the evacuation ending is canon and nothing happened after. No dark soul slop no gachaslop no openslop slop. Just peace.
So what will Hades 3 be about? Great Grandpa Uranus causing shit?>He cut my fucking balls off!>Dad I got that and every other part of me cut off and I got over it.
>People call game woke and safe horny>Zag helps give reasonable conclusion to game that Mel didn't even think of with her half baked plan>See HeraAre the gays getting paid to gas light?
>>722536602Its gonna be Hades 2 again but this time good and it retcons actual Hades 2 as a bad dream Hypnos had.
>>722536668Wrong thread, retard. People here actually played the game and have meaningful critique to give instead of your /pol/ shit.
>>722490415Just beat it today but haven't even unlocked all the aspects.Think I'm mostly getting butt fucked as I don't put much thought in to god synergy, play goku with hexes, and use a Hades card setup.Any tips?
>>722536602They genuinely should switch mythologies for their next "Hades" like game because they clearly are burned out on ideas.
>>722533763You can always healmaxx with hidden aspect.Also learn to dash-strike, it is much faster and makes even Mel aspect good.
>>722536969Well as far as western goyim concerned there's greeks and there's norse gods and no one else. So we wuz loki and shit.
>>722536668The problem is the whole "You are narratively driven to hate someone 90% of the story, and are expected to forgive them in the last 10%"Shit didn't work for TLOU, Shit didn't work for Clair ObscurShit doesn't work hereNone of your woke vs based shit.
>>722537162What else is there that is recognizable? Sure Egyptian would be cool to see for once. Western studios doing asian mythologies is cringe. Any active religion is out of the question too.
>Cronos is literally buck broken
>>722536841>play goku with hexesKamehameha Goku or Spirit Bomb goku?
>>722514150>Hades>Having a teen temper tamper and running away from home with help of family to find your long lost mom>Hades II>Rag tag gorrelia group with child soldiers fighting a slowly losing war against a mad time god that caped your family and unleashed the king of monstersGee anon, you tell me.
>>722478509>shitch exclusiveYikes..................game is easier and gayer.
>>722537341Buck broken Chronos is underhated. They didn't even try to give him a personality or any kind of interesting dialog.
>>722536208Anyone here played the beta? did no one really bitched about chaos challenges being a fucking slog?
>>722537162It'd be cool for them to do Celts and fae but nothing ever fucking uses them
>>722536557>>722536378yeah I think Rival typhon and chronos are the real endings to the game.
I'm going to watch the epilogue on youtube. I can't do any more pointless runs to trigger the RNG dialog.
>>722537262>Clair ObscurThe Renoirs are not the same character.
>>722537369KamehamehaSB works for relatively slow bosses but othrwise isn't that helpful until the area is expanded. Kame rolls things fast with my setup of spam mana moves and gets even better with pierce enemies.Been experimenting with the minion charm now as heard can do some good damage on bosses.
>>722537893was Hades 1 like this too? I don't remember it feeling so grindy
>>722538048I believe from the pure grind it was just as bad but you looked forward to reading the dialog each cycle far more, at least for me, so it didn't feel that way. I want to personally strangle Odysseus, Dora and Nemesis at this point, can't stand reading their pointless shit dialog.
>>722537893Make sure you see the Hecate scene too, some epilogue uploads keep it separate despite is being probably the bigger actual 'ending'
Is it just me or are guests very rare in the crossroads compared to hades 1 where guest characters visited constantly in hades house? I have seen just the same 4 faggots almost the entire game.
>>722538310Crossroads in general is just such a strict downgrade from the House.
>>722479451Do neets really?
>>722520205Which one?
>>722538375My first reaction was "there is no way this is the main hub"
>>722538519>get ability to decorate>ah yes now everything makes sense, gonna upgrade this bitch and make it feel like home>half the decorations is placing shitty carpets on the floor or changing lights to other lights
>>722538375i don't get why hotsprings and pier are even locations if no one is ever there except when you use the item. Really can add bar there too, only saw dora and odyssy there once and probably because it was mandatory story event, they werent doing anything but waiting for me.Decorating also sucks balls, first because getting kudos is aids and you need tonns of them and second most characters suck so i don't even want to give them decorations.
>>722500393there is less gay sex and fewer brown people in 2, what the fuck are you on about
>>722538221>Look up one of the OST's of the game on Youtube last week>Got recommended a video with the epilogue right in the thumbnail
For how much the ending sucked, I genuinely have no clue how you would even make a satisfying conclusion with what they established in EA and be able to justify more runs. Perhaps if the game never released in EA at all and they actually had the ability to change the initially established story it wouldn't end up being such slop.
>>722538721They genuinely must have had a stroke when making the bar because they already had a great bar in Hades 1. A bar is the hotspot of social interactions but all the guests always dick suck hecate instead of going to the bar. Also they have a cook shade but for some reason you just soullessly sell fish to the handler shade instead of trading fish like in the first game.
>>722538890My favourite part of the bar is musician upgrade, which is a soulles shade just put in the most inconvenient spot blocking both cook and record keeper. Really what the fuck were they thinking.
>>722538890Does Hecate or anyone other than Mel even have any indication of a room because I can't even remember anything of the sort.
>>722536025Jesus would hug Cronos until he dies of cringe
>>722539172Hecate has a room?But if you look you can see there's a small tent besides Nemesis, must be magical one and bigger on the inside because it's only big enough to fit her standing up.
>>722478509>is 2 the same as 1?Obviously if you see the gameplay ot os the same general thing.
I beat cronos and typhon for good, is there still unique stuff to see or should I just call it quits now
>>722539426Anon, you're literally only like 2/3rds through.Now you're at the postgame where you get to just grind out for all the extra story stuff and get into just playing the game for fun while slowly working towards the epilogue ending.
>>722539426You still haven't found the fates, look at the list of prophecies.
>>722538854Well instead of making Chronos go from hate to love in an instant they could have made it so that Chronos is extremely confused about his feelings now and so is Mel. So Chronos first fucks off, everyone is saved. But time is still fucked because Chronos is confused so Chronos half willing half unwilling cooperates to find a solution which involves fighting Mel over and over since whenever Mel wins it triggers another childhood memory between the two, which turns Chronos gradually into a loving grandfather and Mel into a niece who adores her grandfather.
>>722539620alright thanks
>Hades 1>Story about a young demigod striving for freedom, clashing with and eventually surpassing his father>Hades 2>Story about a young demigoddess trained by a shadow coven who single handedly defeats chronos which took 6 olympians to do the first time and Typhon who pushed Zeus to is limit>She also easely dispatches Mythological Titans like heracles and prometheus (in a 2v1)Bro wtf is this
i still can't get Moros to give me Supay fucking hell he won't shut up about his dawn waifuyes i have all 3 other torches and his companionship maxed outi remember this dumbass rng was what made me quit Hades 1 too
>>722540006I havent even seen Artemis in i don't even know how many runs and thats the last aspect i wanted to unlock.
>>722539956It's just par for the course of unimaginative sequels to go for "more epic". Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. In God of War it works because it's a spectacle. In Hades it just doesn't because it was more about small meaningful social interactions.
Ares is the Odysseus of Olymp. Always big talk but you see zero results and actions.
>>722539956Zag was raised to just be the son of Hades. Mel was raised to kill Time. It makes sense that she's WAY stronger than he is overall.>>722540006The actual prerequisit is to have all of them unlocked AND 1 of the other aspects at max rank. Maybe you didn't max out Eos or Moros?When I did he immediately got me the waking phrase right after.
>>722537262And you clearly didn't understand Clair Obscur which is the most embarrassing thing about your post since its spelled out
>>722539956the Fates wrote that she's gonna BTFO everyone and save them
>>722539956Hecate. Being a good witch is all about who taught you. And in Greek Myth witches are goddamn powerful.
>>722540392did Ares even have a champion in Greek mythology other than Penthesilea?His twin Athena kept picking mortals to sponsor every decade
>>722540703Involving a deus ex machina like the fates directly in the story? What could go wrong? Surely this will only benefit the quality of the story.
>no Kratos-like aspect for the bladesBAKA
>>722540740>And in Greek Myth witches are goddamn powerful.yeah, so are titans and yet...
>>722540865Chaos already slurped all the basedmilk available and became a better man.
>>722540947So a Chthonic princess raised by a Titan Witch and getting buffs from every god in the pantheon will obviously be REALLY damn strong.
>>722541554Why would a young goddess that maybe lived a few decades at best be more powerful no matter how buffed than eon old gods and titans?
>Hecate gets kidnapped>OH SHIT THE FIGHT IS GONNA BE DIFFERENT??>it's the same basic fightok then...
