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okay anons. October is here

it's time to replay Bloodlines

what patch/mod will you use?
or are you a purist?

what unofficial patch version?
clan mod? visual mods?

discuss
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>>722494865
I already played it again this year
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Are there actual Asian vampires or clans that aren't just Kuei-jin? It would seem weird if there are billions of people there and 0 true vampires
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>>722494865
I play with basic unofficial patch and that’s it.

I’ll be playing gangrel this halloween
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>>722495204
which version?
I want something without wesp delusions
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>>722495143
yeah, kindred are everywhere
and a salubri bloodline
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>>722494865
I'm skipping it because it's just going to remind me of the shitty euros raping its corpse for a few bucks.
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>>722495143
wod was made by burgeroids in 1990s

enjoy your girugamesh and ask no questions
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>>722494865
No Asian clan? Wake me up when the next game is.
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i dont replay it every year
the experience is still too fresh
i wait until i forget some stuff and have to actually think a bit again
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>>722495143
If we count the Indian subcontinent as part of Asia, then yeah, since that's where Nagaraja are from, and some other clans/bloodlines exist like Danava.
Ravnos are also a big thing in India.
China, Japan Korea etc, are all Kuei-Jin areas and as such don't really have Cainite Bloodlines
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I wish the game had way more character customization.
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>>722495143
In V5? Kuei-jin don't exist anymore.
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>>722496917
>American-made product causes third worlders to seethe that they only focus on what's in America
Why are you retards the new twitter Karens? Any time you get excluded, you throw a bitchfit.
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>>722495143
>Are there actual Asian vampires or clans that aren't just Kuei-jin?
Largely Bloodlines. Same with Kindred of the Ebony Kingdom, an entire sub-setting focused on Africa. They are recognizable clans still but perhaps serving difference functions. Like how Nosferatu tend to fill the role of rulers in Africa, for example.
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>>722494865
Is there a non-zero chance that these threads are made by shills?
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>>722494865
>replay Bloodlines
Why would I do that? The game does not have very many branching paths.
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>>722497410
>>722500345
v5 is a headcanon made up by a few white bastards. Kuei-jin should be brought back, and these scoundrels should publicly apologize after chemical castration.
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>>722500587
game is 20 years old
are these shills in the room with us right now?

>>722501063
I haven't actually played it in like 5-6 years
I believe its time
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>>722500345
It's not like WW replaced them with anything
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>>722494865
Just the GoG version which includes the less intrusive version of the patch
>clan mod
nah. I remember trying one that added Lasombra, Followers of Set and a handful of other clans and it felt very janky.

Not sure which clan I'll choose this time around. I could always do Malkavian or Ventrue again which is what I usually go with... but now that I've said that I feel like maybe I should do Toreador. I rewatched The Matrix recently so it might be fun to go all in on celerity
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>>722494865
I'll continue my low humanity nosferatu run
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>>722494865
Novice fledgling here.
Where do I get a cape and a cute Tzimisce tradwife?
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>>722494865
>>722496740
I've been using Lurk's Absolutely Unofficial True Patch Platinum, which is what the basic unofficial patch should've been because it doesn't touch any actual game content, just makes it so you can launch and finish the game on modern computers. I used to hear that you couldn't finish certain quests without UP but it turns out that was bullshit, the game works fine with this patch and I'm already on my second playthrough for the year. The only things really missing are widescreen resolutions and the water effect not being fucked, but those are both exactly the same as the vanilla game. You also need to cap the framerate to 90 or less because it'll break the Source engine physics, but that's standard for all Source 1 games to begin with.
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>>722505669
You can find HOT single Tzimisce in your area looking for love TODAY!
Just crawl down into the nearest manhole and wait, and eventually you'll find someone who'll love you inside out!
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>>722505669
>>722506278
Tzimisce women are unironically superb. Monstrous enough to count as actual Monster girls, but still human, so it doesnt count as being degenerate.
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>>722505669
>>722506278
>>722508331

>you're not gonna believe this. this archbishop killed 16 experience Tremere. the guy was an interior decorator
>Really? his apartment looked like shit
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just finished my first run of the game as tremere
>mfw Sebastian tries to use dominate on me when i already have mass suicide unlocked

im not accustomed with the grand lore of the world of darkness, but what happens now? a primogen is dead and a prince is likely set to be on trial (ironic isnt it). whats likely to be the fate of LA Vampiric masters?
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>>722510887
>Siding with the cammies
Based. I don't think there's a canon answer. There is still tension between the Camerilla and the anarchs and the chinks are still around, working tirelessly to undermine everyone. I like Strauss. He seems like he can make the best out of a bad situation.
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>>722511781
yh i like him too. an ideal primogen who properly respects eldar and neonate alike, plus he does his best to not show bias on proper matters and if he does, he keeps it to himself. if there's anyone who's qualified to take up the mantle as prince of LA it'd be him
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>>722494865
Naaaah, i'll be playing VTMB2
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>that feel when you can have minorities in a game and them actually feel like real human beings

Just started replaying myself, venture stealth build, I just spam sleep so fights are a joke, but boss fights are a nightmare
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>>722510887
There isn't much lore on LA which is why they chose it for the game, so they could go off on their own canon. Few characters are even from the meta-canon mostly just Jack and Becket and obviously the cab driver I think
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>>722501575
I actually disagree. Kuei-jin were such a poorly researched amalgam of Asian myths the entire affair was hilarious.
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>>722500523
let's be honest. only worthwhile and useful information in that book was expounding on ashirra as camarilla's equivalent except rooted in islam.
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>>722494865
Yukie is my wife and proof is that I am the first to name her in the thread.
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>>722514943
bloodlines really has some of the most believable writing out there and voice acting that elevated it.
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>>722501063
For mods.
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>>722514641
Is this a mod or something in the Orginal?.
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>>722494865
>october is here
shit that means its time to replay re4
anons I need a challlenge
no knife only I want to have fun
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>>722510887
The Cammy will just send a representative from a neighboring city to take over until they can find someone else. Basically everything in Camarilla society is forcing your problems onto someone under you while simultaneously making it seem like you're doing them a huge favor; it's corruption and nepotism all the way down.
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>>722500345
>>722501575
Can someone give me a QRD on what happened in V5 I never played the tabletop but I feel there are so many changes that I don't recognize the WoD setting anymore
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Did a pretty good modded overhaul what do you think?

https://youtu.be/dY7StCa1Ehc
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Just watched Only Lovers Left Alive

that shit fucking sucked
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>>722515971
Antitribu mod, it's badgreat
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>>722516617
I was told it was awful by multiple sources, so I never bothered watching it myself.
When you actually try to compile a list of genuinely good vampire and even zombie movies, the list is frighteningly short.
After watching 1931 Dracula every other vampire movie falls short and there isn't a single vampire movie set in the modern day that I've heard good things about.
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>>722516512
The main ones are
>intelligence agencies around the world somehow found out about vampires and broke into Schrecknet, the Second Inquisition now actively hunts vampires with modern day technology and backing from every government
>the Giovanni performed a ritual that somehow merged their clan with a bunch of smaller ones into a new clan called the Hecata
>the Tremere got nuked
>Elders are all fucking off into the desert for some reason
>the Lasombra have left the Sabbat and joined the Camarilla
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>>722517125
Let The Right One In
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>>722516512
list is too extensive but basically
>humanity caught wind of vampires, second inquisition happens
>bomb the tremere chantry in vienna, think they "dealt a major blow to vampire government"
>things cool down a bit for playable status quo to happen
>camarilla goes back to dark days, bans traceable technology
>gangrel and brujah abandon ship, lasombra and assamite aka banu haqim join camarilla
>sabbat aren't even mentioned in the corebook but got their own separate book
>elders are being beckoned to middle east, leaving power vacuums to be filled by younger vampires
>thinbloods aka duskborn are much more common with their own unique alchemy discipline
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>>722517420
Yeah I did see that one, it's good; but it's what I would class as a quirky monster movie more than your traditional vampire movie.
I'm specifically looking for something that gives off the vibes of VTM. What we do in the shadows but with a serious tone and plot essentially.
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>>722517389
>the Tremere got nuked
Only based thing in that retarded edition. (ok, maybe sabbatards getting raped counts as well)
These degenerates deserved every single bullet in their undead craniums
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>>722517552
>mfw all tremere are suddenly free of blood bonds and whatever blood servitude enforced on them by pacts after their chantry gets blown the fuck up
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What's wrong with the unofficial patch? Why is everyone mad at it? New player
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>>722517125
I liked Near Dark even though the ending is straight up retarded. It's the only vampire movie I've seen where vampires are like they are in VtM, i.e. gritty asshole parasites that drink blood and live on the edge of society like hobos

Also I like how the main character looks like he was born to wear a cape and play Dracula, but then they dress him up as a cowboy. kino
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>>722517947
it's okay but the author insists on adding every bit of cut content he can find into the game and sometimes changes stuff to accomodate his personal tastes instead of just fixing game breaking bugs
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>>722517125
>there isn't a single vampire movie set in the modern day that I've heard good things about.
Blade is probably still the closest for me. If you like VtMB you'll definitely like it.

>>722518146
I watched it a few days ago for the first time and have the same opinion. The bar scene was good and Paxton was funny.
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>>722518146
They're Nomads. Something like 30 Days of Night would be your more savage Sabbat pack.
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>>722517947
There are 2 versions of the unofficial patch the Basic version which fixes the bugs and leaves the game vanilla, and the Plus version which adds cut content from the game that didn't make it at the game's launch but a lot of it now feels like the author's own personal mod with him constantly updating and changing things around, go with basic first if you're new
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>>722517552
>think they "dealt a major blow to vampire government"
I bet they'll have real fucking fun times in South America were Sabbat rules. Or parts of Canada.
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>>722519293
from what I remember very little changed for them since they were always dealing with "organized crime violence". now they just had a face of who was ACTUALLY behind it.
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>>722519223
>Basic version which fixes the bugs and leaves the game vanilla,
Basic still inserts random changes to things unfortunately
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>>722519584
What would some examples of that be?
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>>722519932
iirc the later versions of the basic patch removes Smaller God from the beach
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>>722520127
This is when you kill Julius right? It's still playing at the start of the game
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>>722519932
I know recent versions changed lockpicking difficulty for some early doors. Probably because plus nerfs blood buff which makes lockpicking less useful. I think there might still be some dialogue changes. Random ambient sounds added to maps.

I know in the past it changed music, how Disciplines work, etc. even in basic. Mercurio offers you a SWAT sniper rifle which doesn't appear in his inventory, for some reason that fix is only in plus I think so a major bug is left unfixed too.

>>722520752
A few years ago he swapped it with a song that plays at the end of Deb's radio show for some reason and then reversed it later after people complained a lot. Some of the worst stuff was eventually removed like that but it was still frustrating to deal with.
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>>722520127
No, that's plus patch. Basic patch keeps it.
Basic patch is generally vanilla+. It's plus patch that changes things for better or worse.
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>>722494865
Unofficial+ with my own additions, as usual.
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playing it for the first time
just got out of the hollywood sewers.
worst part of the game so far lmao
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>>722521862
Changing Smaller God was in basic at one point too.
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>>722522512
Can you tell me specifically what you disliked? I'm working on a balance patch for some areas including the sewers.
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>>722522693
its just kinda tedious and samey
which is a common trait for any game's sewer sections.
Not sure if its something that can be rectified.
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>>722522972
Was it more the combat or level design or just both? Hoping to be able to cut down some of the tedious feeling without actually changing much.
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>>722523574
Design. Whole thing is like dipping yourself into acid. You don't want to but there's no other way out. You need to fill up your entire inventory with blood pack for boss fight and then for sewers, or else you'll be struggling hard (unless you're nossie who actually get bonus from sucking off from rats). Once in sewers, you'll be crawling around in circles and fighting back against dozens of enemies, and the mini boss fights are tedious unless you got invested enough points in combat skills. Past certain point you can see obviously that it's one of most unfinished parts of the game and it shows.
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>>722524073
Thanks. I'm working on a couple things that should help a lot with at least some of what you said. I don't want to make huge changes but there are two small ones affecting the player and enemies that should make it feel less frustrating.
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>>722517947
Fixing bugs is all well and good but the author keeps arbitrarily moving NPC's around and fucking with the maps.
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>>722524372
i had decent skills put into combat so sewers was okay. i think he's right that it feels samey with the layout but the atmosphere is great and i like some of the pain to it. the trek into the sewers should be a little awful. you're going into these sewers overrun by abominations.
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>>722524509
Yeah definitely, I like the more horror atmosphere of that area and I even like the level design itself. I mostly just want to smooth things out. Part of the problem was actually related to weapon balance a bit rather than the issue entirely being with the sewer itself oddly enough.
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>>722522972
arkham asylum sewers are awesome. bloodlines needed a similar killer croc style stealth section for its sewers
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>>722522693
Not that anon but it's just too long and too much like a maze. I think there's some merit to the gauntlet of honestly kinda scary enemies you encounter. The sound design on those little fleshcrafted beasts is fantastic and I still jump a bit when I hear their panting and roaring.

But then it just keeps going and going. Aside from implementing skips that utilize skills other than hacking (which exists in the patch) there's not much you could do to salvage it. Maybe add some humans you could use to resupply. But then again there's already an exit partway through the dungeon and if someone is modding the game chances are they already played this so they know what to expect and can prepare for it.

The one annoying thing you could do is eliminate the keycard requirement at the very end there. I remember a couple times I was playing it, and I forgot about the card and I got frustrated I had to go back and look for it. Especially as a stealth character.
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>>722500345
Ah yes, the ONLY GOOD LORE CHANGE IN V5.
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>>722525661
I guess removing some of the dead ends could make things a little better for some people but I'm hoping to avoid doing things like that for this balance patch.

>The sound design on those little fleshcrafted beasts is fantastic and I still jump a bit when I hear their panting and roaring.
I was going through the sound files looking for something and listened to Ming's boss fight sounds and it's pretty great too. Almost sounds like an animal but not quite. Good contrast with her normal appearance and voice.

>keycard
Lel I got stuck on that my first couple of times too but I don't entirely hate it
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>>722502826
I never finished my playthrough is base GOG patch version fine? Any QoL stuff to mod? I got really fucking burnt out on modding past few years
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>>722522693
Personally I just thought the enemy placement was sus. Like you can stealth around the titty monsters and it feels intended with the square mazelike corridors but then they put those two handed fucks everywhere which aggro from miles away so you just end up in a situation where you're getting ganked by them + titty monsters. In the end I just legged it to the keycard and then the shaft. Although I learned along the way that Burrowing Beetle reks the titty monsters for some reason kek
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>>722518146
>i.e. gritty asshole parasites that drink blood and live on the edge of society like hobos

That's not every VtM vampire to be fair. But Near Dark is the most Sabbatcore vampire movie out there period. They even have nomadic packs.
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>>722522693
>Can you tell me specifically what you disliked?
Sewers being clogged with his creations
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>>722527626
>is base GOG patch version fine
yeah
>Any QoL stuff to mod
I wouldn't bother if you don't feel like modding.
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>>722528689
That happy grin always gets me
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>>722528156
>Like you can stealth around the titty monsters and it feels intended
I noticed that too. I think Obfuscate works on them but not the little guys as well.

>In the end I just legged it to the keycard and then the shaft.
That's also what I end up doing sometimes but I'm trying to make it feel like it's worth playing a bit more normally.

>Although I learned along the way that Burrowing Beetle reks the titty monsters for some reason kek
Blood Strike too if you're playing Tremere. If I ever play Gangrel or Nosferatu I like getting Burrowing Beetle because it's fun to spam for so much extra damage. Works really good on Ming too.
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>>722525578
The Evil Within also has GOATed sewers
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>>722528281
>Near Dark is the most Sabbatcore vampire movie out there period.
which is funny since WWQ loves the film, but hates players having the option to play Sabbat
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>>722529565
The WFRP campaign?



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