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Why do you still play hoyogames?
are you not bored of them?
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>>722496041
its good agp fuel
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I usually drop them when they go to their 'definitely not China ' equivalent. Which is a shame because I really started to like ZZZ.
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>Paimon has her tongue out
Slut
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>>722496041
I've played HI3,GI,HSR and ZZZ
drop them all at some point
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>>722497061
my wifes
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>>722496041
>Genshin Impact
I enjoy the new region. The characters are very well written and the story and pacing improved.
>Honkai: Star Rail
Too much exposition and the author is always stalling by repeating stuff about philosophy over and over. There are only 1-2 combat sequences in the story every six weeks.
>Zenless Zone Zero
The developers do not try anymore. Half of the cutscenes are unvoiced and no animations. Most of them are black screens with white texts, or characters just standing and doing no gestures.
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>>722496041
Idk I tried my best with zzz to stay caught up but once u get fatigued from the daily login, it feels more like a job. Stayed until the umbrella girl and then quit cold turkey. For genshin I stayed till childe, hsr I stayed till Kafka
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>>722497463
This. I know that the dailies mechanics are developed to make you develop an habit of playing the game daily and keep you coming back, but for me it eventually started to make me dread the game because it felt like a perpetual chore. At some it was what made me quit the game entirely.
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I've been playing GI for 5 years, I'm invested by now and will stick with it forever. Won't fucking touch anything else by them though.
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>>722496041
I've played Hi3rd, GI, HSR and ZZZ
Played GI for the longest (since 1.0) but dropped it last May, it's unironically bad now
Got some nice memories of hi3rd, especially Durandal, dropped it after Palatinus Equinox, it became more predatory than ever
HSR is probably the worst mihoyo game
ZZZ is the only one I still play and enjoy, by far the best mihoyo title at the moment
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>>722497459
imagine the kot futa cock
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Despite how shit they are they're still the benchmark for quality in their genre, and I prefer the gacha model where I get regular free content over triple A slop charging me 100 bucks + season pass + MTX + fuck you every two years for the same game.
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>>722496041
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>>722496041
i used to play ggz, too bad global publisher kill it.
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I play Reverse1999
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>>722496041
What's the point of this thread?
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hoyofags are basically blizzfags, they're diehard loyalists no matter how bad shit gets.
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>>722498256
>Despite how shit they are they're still the benchmark for quality in their genre
lol no they're not. Hoyoslop hasn't been quality ever since they hit it big and make billions every year. They don't have to try anymore so they're just resting on their laurels.
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>>722498821
unironically what games would you say are superior to hoyo's? im researching the story of gacha games
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>>722496041
the new Genshin's OST slaps insanely hard, cured my Witcher nostalgia for a while

https://youtu.be/llQDVz9En2Q
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I never played a single game from hoyo. I have only one tag filtered on my steam and that is "free to play".
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>>722499091
it's probably my 3rd favorite region ost after sumeru and mondstadt
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>>722499091
>slaps insanely hard
>the most generic ost imaginable
jesus christ genshitters are braindead
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>>722499091
When are they releasing the hour long disc versions of the OST?
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>>722496041
I grew out of free "job games" thankfully. Feels unshackling to not have to do daily/weekly missions in a game for crumbs of premium currency.
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>>722499091
Waiting for this one to play in game one day. I think we won't hear it until 6.4 or 6.5 so like 4-5 months from now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuXa_yxZMGI
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>>722497463
You are saying you basically quit both games right at the start.
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>>722499091
nasha town has the best town theme ost after port ormos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IFDSRb3kFs
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>>722499091
I never regret coming back to Genshin every now and then just to explore and listen to the music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCa6sVxN9VQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYwoDqlVnkg
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>>722499017
Hoyo is basically the only one to push the limits. HI3 was the first 3d action gacha game and Genshin was the first open world gacha game. Well I’m not 100% sure on HI3 but I can’t find any that released before it in my quick search.
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>>722496041
I play MHY games because they're the best gacha games to play.
You have several thousands of hours of content across all of them. High production value. Diverse cast (in a good way). Tons of ludokino highlights.
And you can experience it all for free. These are very generous games that respect and value the free player experience.
You're really doing yourself a disservice by ignoring them.
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>>722499363
I've played this game for five years and I can't remember any environmental soundtrack outside of mondstadt, most overrated shit ever
meanwhile I still remember every Kiseki theme not composed by singa
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>>722499826
mihoyo put the most effort into hi3 and quality has rapidly declined since then
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>>722499720
That’s what my one friend does. He installs and plays Genshin for about a month each year just before the new region comes out. Plays through all the current region story and exploration and then quits again until next year.
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>>722496041
Dropped HSR recently because the events were garbage and i have no more simulated universe to do, CZN may scratch taht itch but i'm just not feeling hsr anymore.
ZZZ still as fun as always and im now trying to get high scores because i have done pretty much all there is to do in the game and im sitting on a hoard to spend on zhao, only the subway surfers minigame left to do.
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>>722499912
Sounds like a problem with you, I still vividly remember ambient tracks from 2.x
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeQCuNmKAvM

Also not everything Singa did was bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzacPOjQ7Eg

Get that spoon out of your arse.
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>>722499912
turn the audio on
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>>722500227
That's just basic gacha addiction.
It's very easy to enjoy hoyo games without falling into that addiction trap.
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>>722500225
Synchronicity is good for the first 30s and then it turns into shit.
Not everything Singa did was bad, he did compose some decent tracks, even a good one very, very occasionally (like Iclucian Dance) but 98% of his tracks never go above 5/10 and he's one of the big reasons kiseki lost its flavour
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>>722500465
Once you realize how unimportant new characters are for anything it's incredibly easy to just log in and play when you want to or when new content is added.
>THIS NEW BROKEN UNIT CHANGES EVERYTHING!
No it doesn't, it's a babby game with no difficult content.
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>>722496041
I only play Infold games.
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>>722500518
I don't know man, 3rd is probably where I think JDK peaked, sure. But that doesn't mean I think the new music is bad at all, I think it's pretty solid all the way through the series and people whine about Singa like he single handedly ruined everything. It's so trite.
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>>722499636
That is literally playing the game everyday for like 3 months for genshin and hsr and like a year for zzz
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>>722500828
I thought this game exploded because the devs remembered they were a gacha game two month in or something.
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>>722496278
>playing as any of the girls
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>>722500831
The soundtrack was great up until CS2 (FC aside)
CS3 and CS4 still had a very good ost overall but the drop in quality was very noticeably
Hajimari + Kuro 1/2 are genuinely bland and extremely forgettable to the point that I can safely say they don't feel like Kiseki games anymore, just some dogshit bootleg without soul, especially Kuro because Hajimari still has the best combat system in the series
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>>722499091
It sucks compared to anywhere that isn't fontaine.
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>>722496041
I enjoy routine, and I'm still scared of dropping games. I dropped Zenless after I finished the 2.0 story. I'll probably drop Genshin and Star Rail at some point, but I'm fine for now.
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>>722501023
Pretty sure 1st has the best combat system now.
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>>722501213
I've played the demo and it felt like Kuro but without the gimmick assists/buff you could get by staying in a character's circle
it's average
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>>722500851
Childe came out the first banner of 1.1 so 6 weeks. Kafka was indeed 1.2 so three months there.
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>>722496041
>HI3rd
After part 1/Kiana's focus was over, it was done.
And noooothing I've seen so far implies otherwise.
Way less ambitious patches, no Post Honkai Odyssey Part 3, story is meh, they immediately went back to year one/StarRail balance where an all compressing new gimmick makes FOMO broken characters
>Genshin
Filler. Oh my god, so much filler.
>Star Rail
Worst and most iconic China shift. DIdn't get as fun as a real high fantasy story, blueballed the fuck out of the soft aeon war, too much grinding to ignore. Then when I came back, they were on China 2. No thanks.
>ZZZ
Absolute drop in soul, direction, and uniqueness. Everyone in 2.0 is either an extreme conversion to Star Rail style filler or converted to the most boring moeslop, the production value got way worse, their real time animations outside combat are dry as fuck, and the side content is so short and lame.

Also for Anby being the cover girl, she does practically nothing as but a fill in for what should be S11's involvement, and her normal Cunning Hares self is just barely relevant.

Also even the one good part of Genshin and Star Rail's antagonists being they're charming and well designed, is ruined.
>Nah, I'm a cultist now and you have to fight me as the big bad guy with no lead up or moral hangups
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I still love Genshin dearly. Play it with my girlfriend and we have a great time.
ZZZ had soul and potential but they butchered it and I quit months ago
I don't play any other gachashit
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>>722501004
>Self inserting and pretending the male is lord gigacock emperor
Wise is the absolute worst for this because his current outfit makes him this fat ass twink, he has a Twilight moment with Hugo and Lycoan, and they don't even know what to do with Phaethon anymore so now he has this undeserved ego that gets called out
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>>722501845
>Also even the one good part of Genshin and Star Rail's antagonists being they're charming and well designed, is ruined.

chinese gacha writing can just be summed up to varying degrees of dogshit
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The Chinese language barrier really makes their games unpalatable to otaku familiar with japanese games and game culture, only koreans managed to nail it (Blue Archive).
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>>722496041
No.
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>>722502013
try tower of fantasy
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Still doing my genshin, hsr, and zzz dailies, though it's been a bit of a dead cycle since genshin 6.0 dropped
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>>722496041
No one is playing zzz kek
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>>722500903
The drama happened a long time ago. The game itself is still the same dress up game so people that want that still get it. Last few patches have been great too. LaDS does get better treatment which I also like and play.
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>>722502969
based
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>>722503170
They need to hype people up with another Miyabi-tier character. The 6.3 and 6.4 characters aren't enough to hype people up
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>>722503384
>They need to hype people up with another Miyabi-tier character
Shifu sucked and killed the game with forced shilling
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I don't get Shifu haters desu

>cute
>strong
>30 yo virgin
>in to (you)
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>>722503472
just another proof that the masses have dogshit taste, miyabi is a worse character in every single way
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>>722503598
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>>722496041
Sunk cost fallacy. People already spent a lot of money and time in these trash games, waiting for the next fomo patch became a part of their life... Something similar to what happened with anime MMOs right before that bubble exploded btw
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>>722503751
>MOM I POSTED IT AGAIN!!! LMAFO
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>>722503557
She's not a bad character but everyone is tired of all the chinawank surrounding Failume Heights
>>722503170
The Angels will save ZZZ. Trust the plan
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>>722504036
Trust the plan
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>>722504036
fallume heights has to be the least bad chinese arc of all gacha, they managed to strike a nice middle ground between zzz's urban aesthetic and chinese stuff
fallume heights itself looks pretty good and the soundtrack is nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2muqgKhWup4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9ew2oq41tA
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>>722501845
>Also even the one good part of Genshin and Star Rail's antagonists being they're charming and well designed, is ruined.
genshit and hrt dont have good antagonists
fatui had potential (especially when they dropped that one trailer) but it never materialized
shart rail never had any good antagonists. people say the new arc has a decent antagonist of the week but too little too late
mihoyo antagonists peaked with otto
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>>722504274
Welcome to China you can swipe for
An E-Thot
A rabbit
A squid
An elf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFU7rj7IoLo
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>>722504292
Fatui were never really antagonists, they're antiheroes.
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>>722496041
Do we know when skrrk rerun?
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>>722503170
I wish someone cared about me as much as this schizo cares about zzz.
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>>722503472
She was a top 3 selling banner alongside Miyabi and Ellen though
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>>722504274
>FAILume Heights
It's in the name.
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>>722504542
They're Team Rocket.
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>>722496278
cringe post but cute Stelle
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>>722496041
I don't want to miss daily currency for free pulls.
I've been pretty good at making dailies most days for the last several years.
I can't imagine quitting now after all this effort.
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>>722504817
Why does she have such a stupid name
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>>722505813
The problem is whenever you actually think about it for more than five minutes and realize that having a job is a more time efficient source of primogems than your daily grind, even if it's only 10 minutes.
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>>722496041
>Genshin
Day 1 Player
Actually Improved the Storytelling
Alot of 4* Units and different Teams to Play
>HSR
Dropped
too much Powercreep
Didn`t like the Greek Setting
Storytelling is 8hr Standing in Circle, Hand to Chest Animation & PNG
>ZZZ
WuWa came too late to the PS5
Persona 5 but as a Action Game
Have the most luck & saved pulls
On the Edge of Quitting because of the stale Storytelling (ZoomCall, Black Screen/White Text)
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>>722496041
I'm so bored of genshin
actual qualities of the games :
>art direction
>soundtrack

unbearable flaws :
>low effort animations
>incredibly shit character models
>awful texture quality
>paimon
>dogshit writing and presentation
>worst dialogues on earth
>unrewarding exploration
>from 5.0 onwards : characters sold together, powercreep ramping up
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>open umamusume
>200 pulls for a single pity that doesn't carry over
I'm sorry I ever doubted you hoyo-sama...
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>>722497463
ZZZ has the bones to be a fantastic action RPG and I will forever resent it for refusing quality in its pursuit of forever money.

There are no good gacha.
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>>722507163
Sometimes i read shit like this and actually wonder if some posters live in a different universe. What's wrong with Paimon in nod krai, or the writing? How would you make exploration more rewarding? The terrain changes as you do stuff and you find out different things about the world you play in.
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>Star Rail
Yes, Amphoreus has a lot of issues, both in overall pacing and specific moments. However, it's also had a lot of great moments and sequences.
Part of it is curiosity on how they'll end up connecting SR and HI3 more in the future given overlap in both
Gameplay is still fun despite HP inflation
>HI3
Bit more on the backburner than it used to be, but Part 2 really hit a good stride w/ Helia's arc in terms of story so I'm interested to see if they can keep it up with further Senadina and Leylah stuff
Astral Ring mechanic is ok, varies per specific unit
>ZZZ
Is indeed one of Hoyo's overall weakest games so far.
Failume Heights generally hasn't been super compelling as a region, 2.2 had a decent story/faction at least.
Not super looking forward to 2.3's story/characters
Pretty fun to play w/ Alice and Seed, and Sanby getting a buff is good
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I am literally March 7th
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>>722508026
>What's wrong with... the writing?
Please read a book or play a non-f2p game, for your own sake.
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>>722496041
gotta say, quitting hoyoslop feels good
no more epic black screen fades with shitty visual novel cutscenes, no more overdesigned chinkslop characters on my screen, no more terrible daily grind
i just installed disney speedstorm and it's so much fun
no interruptions, you just get into the races and have fun
this brings me to another point
how unoptimized hoyoslop is, especially zzz
it's like 30gb on phones, while speedstorm is just about 5gb
despite having nothing to do besides boring combat (and shitty arcade games)
it's all style, no substance
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>>722508228
>it's bad because i say so
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>>722496313
wouldn't be surprised if there's a whole ass year of chink furniture, clothing, events, etc in petit planet's equivalent of the chinkwank year
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>>722503848
>!
Booty bothered
>!!
Pooper pained
>!!!
Shitter shattered
>LMAFO
Anally annihilated
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>>722508156
>ZZZ is indeed one of Hoyo's overall weakest games so far.

Nah it's definitely the best one at the moment.
The weakest title is by far HSR, it's probably the videogame with the least effort put into it, considering how much money it makes Can't think of a single title that feels as neglected.
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>>722508407
>Give me an essay so I can go "uhm. No, sweetie ;)"
Nah.
The pacing and lack of catharsis alone is a deal breaker. I don't need to dive deep to explain why a game designed to keep you playing forever intentionally avoids good writing.
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>>722508407
NTA but I've elaborated a billion times on this on a ton of different threads, you're just a lost cause and probably think arlechino's quest is "fucking kino" and fontaine a "storytelling masterpiece"
I hope you're under 20 or a shill, for your own sake
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>>722508023
This. They refused to listen to feedback from beta (give us an actual Hollow map where we see environments and characters isometrically or something, they took the map view of Darkest Dungeon and made that their whole dungeon crawl mode)
Then they rushed the game and released it unfinished with a ton of vestigial mechanics they couldn't finish because gacha (like the daily schedules)
Then they folded under very little pressure and rushed to "fix" the game by gutting all the soul, shoving corridors, chinaslop and doomed banners with shitty pacing.
ZZZ could have been great.
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>>722508559
>>722508614
>this video game's story sucks because it doesn't match top ranked books
You can't name a game with a better story.
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>>722497463
that's why hoyo's idea to turn gachashit into games isn't working out well for them
literally NO ONE is going to manage handling THREE fucking gacha games at once (just talking about the three big hoyo gachas)
star rail is the only one that casuals pick up because it takes the least amount of effort and time
you simply hit the fast forward and autoplay buttons, the game plays by itself, the grind is much more bearable than genshin and zzz
their profits are just divided between the three games because people just can't handle playing all three (and more non-hoyo gacha or games by side)
they are going to add two more gachashit to the list and it's just gonna give people gacha fatigue
thankfully, ananta releasing might grab enough players to make the other gacha developers drop their monetization and daily fomo module
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Ananta will topple hoyo, the asian free to play mobile market is going to make a shift
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>>722508756
>all the soul
They removed TV and turned the story into seriouslop
It's damaging but the game is still really soulful, felt great to hear Trigger have special voicelines when switching to Seed or Orphie despite being a considerably older character
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>>722508940
I still don't understand how Ananta is supposed to make money, and that worries me greatly.
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>>722501845
i'll never understand the decision behind making march and anby the cover girls of their respective games
both shit
pompom and eous would've been better choices for face of the games
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>>722508940
I won't.
Ananta will (maybe) be very popular for a while, then everyone will jump ship because of the inevitable content drought after two months.
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I tried like a dozen of them for free and quit them all, except Genshin. It just has the juice.
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>>722503557
chinkwank is shit
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>>722497459
>Half of the cutscenes are unvoiced and no animations. Most of them are black screens with white texts, or characters just standing and doing no gestures.
That's not true at all. The fuck are you on about?
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>>722508818
>You can't name a game with a worse story.

I sure can't.
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>>722496041
I actually like story of HSR, so I'm sticking with it.
Picked Genshin like... six months ago, and I might take a break from it, though the new region is nice. At moment I'm just doing dailies quickly since I'm playing other games.
Played ZZZ on launch until Miayabi, then dropped the game until Vivian (or S.Anby, whichever came first) and I'm really considering dropping it again. The current story just isn't interesting.
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>>722509209
March 7th has been asleep for a year now.
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>>722509304
While still screenshots of Genshin are visually the worst looking of the big three Hoyo games, the devs are seriously putting all the assets they have to work. Characters emote and camera angle changes in scenes, making everything feel really lively. You really gotta respect that.
And Melusines were cute.
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>>722509304
It really does
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>>722503170
I'm playing it so you're wrong.
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>>722509546
>the devs are seriously putting all the assets they have to work
It's clear why they made Miliastra.
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>>722509551
>Searching for posts with the image hash ‘RGJjyszfdnk/O6+LxMHN9g==’. 63 results found.
Imagine being this obsessed because the events you do have some lore to go with them instead of just being "Do this because I say so"
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zzz was advertised as that one gacha game with light urban slice-of-life story and most unique character designs in the entire gacha market
they listened to pags and jeets who love china wank and MC wank and ai generated waifu slop, and hated everything about zzz but still picked it up because they are gacha slop slurpers who do nothing but play gacha slop on their 300 poopees bharat saarsung phones 24/7
it's good to see it flopping
never listen to pags and jeets who don't even pay
they're all freeloaders who unfortunately are very loud due to their sheer numbers
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>>722509694
He'll post the Fontaine one now, observe.
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>>722509694
>some lore
>chinkbloat to inflate average playtime

Play real games.
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I miss the aesthetics of early ZZZ
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>>722496041
ZZZ is the only one i've played for more than a few days and i'm getting ready to drop it. Haven't rolled for anyone from 2.0 outside of Yi Xuan and Ju Fufu, no one since then has interested me in the slightest and I haven't even bothered getting caught up with the story.
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>>722509731
>zzz
>MC wank
never was.
never will be.
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>>722509830
2.1 felt great, schoolgirls ARE ZZZ
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>>722509752
no, someone should post the granny and radish pasta
really shows how ridiculous hoyoslop writing is
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>>722509830
We just need ZZZ to get a real collab so Ellen, Billy and Nicole can be evacuated to a different game, then just euthanize it.
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>>722496041
I've been enjoying Genshin again after ignoring the whole summer event and then having to do it anyways with less rewards.
Zenless has completely lost me, I don't care at all right now after adoring it for the first year.
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>>722509884
>schoolgirls ARE ZZZ
shit, let me think about that for a minute
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>>722509989
They should have delayed ZZZ a year to have an actual plan and roadmap for the game instead of releasing a beta then flip flopping and scrapping half the game in real time. It isn't like they released anything since that would have conflicted.
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>>722510085
I'm forgiving ZZZ for everything just because it has a weekly endgame rotation. This is all I ever wanted in the other gacha.
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>>722509830
game really has so much style unlike all the other gacha in the market, but everything else about it sucks now because they listened to third worlders
i still think it's not too late
just delete china slop, delete the china slop characters, redesign the remaining characters to match the launch version's theme and aesthetics
fix the story, go back to light "illegal proxy guides agents into hollows to earn money" stuff instead of cringe mc wank shit
then address the gameplay issues
make it fun, make the grind less boring, maybe implement coop modes for that so people don't get bored farming the same shitty mats every day
and do something about the bangboos, use them in some other gameplay mode, maybe create a boo kart racing game instead of the shitty arcade games that most people ignore anyways
it just needs fun gameplay and good character designs like the original vision of the project
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>>722509895
yeah a fanfiction will be a truly devastating argument
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>>722506337
It feels awful to actually spend real money in gacha though.
If I can just macro together all of my dailies I'll get like 80% of the fun that comes from pulling and also keep my own money for real shit like food.
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>>722510057
What are you talking about, /vmg/ dramajeets love the cancer that's killing ZZZ.
>the reheated AI generated Firefly recycle pitybait that was Seed is actually good because she's a "generic waifu that loves the MC", the fact that ZZZ players actually wanted a big robot nigga and didn't pay for her or wanted Obol to be a competent military squad instead of a bunch of brain damaged retards means they're faggot trannies and not REAL gacha fans (incels)
They're the type of nigga who posts about "based target audience pandering" on xitter with a peruvian flag on their bio
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>>722506337
>having a job is a more time efficient source of primogems than your daily grind
I do my 5 minutes of daily resin burn on my laptop at work actually. I refuse to buy anything except welkin since I'm logging in anyway.
And with the encounter system nobody does dailies anymore, you get them for free by burning resin for artifacts, which you can't skip by paying.
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>>722499017
Right now wuthering waves is doing more to push storytelling and presentation in a gachashit. And don't kneejerk because i mentioned wuwa in a positive light. It has its own problems, and they aren't able to maintain a consistent level of presentation quality in every main quest, but they're doing it better than anyone else currently.
Ananta looks like it's trying to be a genshin tier step up for the genre. There's also duet night abyss but I don't even know if it should be included in gacha discussions anymore since they dropped gacha entirely. At the very least, both it and ananta are gacha devs looking at alternative monetization.
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>>722496041
ZZZ was the only Hoyo and only GACHA game ive ever touched. Was drawn in by the exceptional style and designs of the chracters and combat. The game is extremely fun. Genshin is probably fun too till you hit some sort of end-game. I wouldnt know.

However thanks to Season 2 ive come to quickly realize I am NOT Asian enough to like this garbage. It astounds me how quickly they backtracked to just fucking awful generic storytelling and terribly safe/boring designs. Then when trying to do something potentially intersting (like SEED being advertised as a giant robot) they cant fucking help themselves by pulling the rug out and turning it into some fucking fetish bait dogshit whore.

They had a SINGLE Season of creativity and now are just floundering in the wind with flop after flop. "Oh wowzers! I cant wait for Zenyatta to be added to ZZZ! Lucia is such a unique and interesting design! Yea dude everyone LOVES Mockingbird! Best Faction!"
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>>722510489
i love how those jeets on /vmg/ deflect the game flopping on the imaginary furry, robot and bara homo banners
btw, one of the shitposters there is aetherpag, who is also firepag/pagfly (which is why he loves seed the most and hates that she flopped, so he now spams /zzz/ with copy-pasted replies)
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>>722508756
It never had a chance BECAUSE it's gacha, but a good mix of top down Roguelike content, isometric dungeon crawling, and the Slay the Spire mode they implemented later on would make for three really strong arcade modes that would be fun to play online.

Give us an annual paid expansion that adds new content instead of the gacha model and it could have been incredible.
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The more I play Genshin the deader it feels
I just never have any reasons to go back to older regions, the map keeps getting bigger and the number of dead zones as well. Sometimes there is a dogshit event happening in Inazuma or some other region but it's very small and you just mash through shit dialogues in a single place
Wish they put more effort into revitalizing old places such as adding new, hidden local legends every months with some furniture or cosmetics or secret areas to unlock for the sake of it
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>>722508818
>You can't name a game with a better story.
Most games, which is saying a lot. Even churned out gutter RPGs like Tales of Legendia have better writing. The only good storytelling I ever saw in a gacha was Nier, and that's because it was a series of short stories with a planned ending.
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I gotta say I'm pretty satisfied with my luck in HSR
>started playing for Saber (who ate all my fucking tickets)
>then I got Firefly
>then I got Kafka
>then I got Herta
I'm up to the middle(?) of Amphoreus and other than maybe Aglaea I've got all the chicks that made an impression on me
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No, maybe the normal games are so sloppy that now hoyo games looks like masterpieces
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>>722510670
Even by 1.5 they were floundering. They stopped updating one of the core game modes to focus on shit mini games, started wandering further away from the core cast, and refused to actually make the repeated content better.

Whole game's combat design falls apart once you realize there's only ever one right answer for your character and the game hates you getting creative.
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>>722510789
I played Genshin by ignoring the story entirely and just exploring as much of the map as I could without engaging in combat.

It was a really fun ten hours. And the second I tried to engage with the writing and combat systems, I was turned off so hard I uninstalled.
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I really hope heartopia releases at about the same time as petit planet
I have zero interest in playing another hoyo game, but I'd be tempted if there's no other comfy lifesim to play while I wait for a new ac game
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>>722510672
>one of the shitposters there is aetherpag
Can't a volcano in Indonesia do the needful already?
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Oh boy I love threads where people that like the game praise and people that hate the game criticize it in a subjective manner. I'm sure spending a few hours arguing will surely change the other posters mind.

idk about other gachas but since genshin became so big and made a gazillion dollars then it must've done something good
>no it's just predatory gamb-
irrelevant copium

just post hot girls already
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I take breaks from Genshin. Skipped all of Natlan for example. Those other games look awful.
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>>722510663
wuwa has been doing a lot right since 2.0, it's hilarious how much everything in Rinascita mogs the old stuff
looking forward to the "finale" and I hope they can keep up the momentum
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>>722511028
This post confirms my bias so I will agree with it.
I tried genshin for about a week. I liked the environment but found everything else incredibly bland and boring.
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>>722510663
>>722511289
No, Wuwa sucks ass and anyone defending it clearly hasn't played any of the other better gacha games.
The whole game is bait and you should feel bad if you fell for it.
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>>722511214
>NOOOOOOO STOP TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES
If you don't want to engage in, or be witness to, discussion, you can just find another thread, lil bwo.
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>>722511525
>>722511493
heh
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>>722511214
>just post hot girls already
I'll post a cute girl (machine) instead.
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>>722511493
>clearly hasn't played any of the other better gacha games.
Like what?
If it has visual novel cutscenes, don't bother.
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>>722496041
I only ever played Genshin but i quit when the lightning islands came out. The exploration was very unfun there and the story was getting boring.
I will play their Animal Crossing game but i wont touch their other slop.
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>>722511635
Well you're in a mhy thread so I'm sure you can logic together the appropriate answer.
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>>722511525
you're not talking about video games, you're talking about your opinion on them
here's a real video game post, i just cleared lunar imaginarium and want some attention
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My hoyo experience

>Honkai 3rd
lmao this is a mess but it's funny. The novelty wears off too fast, deleted.
>Genshin
The Chinese pond/mountains and the big desert are really fun to explore. Rest of the game is horrible. Deleted after getting around most of the funny towers I could get to without dealing with the rest.
>Starrail
Gameplay is so boring that I moped out immediately. Watched some story online, it's just kinda mediocre, not worth the time. Better writing then the last two at least.
>ZZZ
Base game through Miyabi expansion was actually pretty fun? Some of the content sucked, but easily the best writing so far. Gameplay was fun but can't last as long as the game wants it to. The rabbit dungeon crawler side mode was pretty cool, and they abandoned it. Liked the twins' little story. You could feel the writers fighting their bosses at times (Wow, Miyabi had a nervous breakdown but somehow didn't hit a single innocent!) when it came to writing. Gave up when 2.0 landed - the gacha characters were mostly boring already, and now they're even more generic.
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>>722511493
I played all the big gacha and that's why I stuck with Wuwa. It's just better and it's nice playing a gacha that feels like a PC game too, puts my gamer rig to use.
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>>722511610
i wonder if Aino made her able to become pregnant. Who am I kidding, she probably doesn't even know what that means.
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https://youtu.be/R3tZmmiKi0o
the height of ZZZ
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>>722511802
hoyo hasn't tried to push anything for years now. they just phone in updates and collect their billions.
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>>722496041
>>722496041
I still don't know anything about this game but the girl on bottom left is the cutest.
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>>722512050
well you can put a literal bun in her oven, if that works for you
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>>722512080
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>>722511826
Giving opinions on video games is talking about videos games. How much tylenol do you have to be on to think otherwise?
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>>722512050
Take her to Xilonen for warranty voiding aftermarket hardware mods
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>>722512285
>Xilonen jailbreaking robots in her free time
fucking kek
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>>722512170
Anon, I'm not a genshin player. I don't know what that is aside from the obvious, it being a collab.
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>>722512119
well of course
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ok but which one has the best obligatory fuckbuddy?
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>>722512383
anime roblox
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>>722512080
If they're always at the top revenue spots then what's the problem?
It's good. They're still on top. Nobody is close.
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>Kurobots havent shown up yet
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>>722499091
bro that's just fontaine soundtrack but with folk instruments. Which doesn't make it bad but if you think this is outstanding you weren't listening to the music in previous expansions
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>>722512570
Alright but what does that mean for the game? Like, is genshin going to have some kind of game maker now?
>>722512632
If the game is topping charts, and you're content with the quality of it, that's fine. Enjoy being contented.
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I am not bored of Genshin, but I did drop SR and I might drop ZZZ soon.
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>>722513187
not sure either but it's probably gonna be a separate thing that won't need genshin to run
they're promoting it along with genshin because it will use a lot of assets from it
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>>722496313
How do you manage that
The "not china" is always like the second or first place you go to
Zzz is the game that took the longest to get there
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>>722512867
no fucking way lmao
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>>722509116
Didnt they say they had no character gacha?
They still could lock movesets behind gacha like that.
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>>722513187
>Like, is genshin going to have some kind of game maker now?
Yes, and it includes genuinely impressive scripting options, it's basically an entire game engine with Genshin's environmental assets and props included.
>>722513404
>but it's probably gonna be a separate thing that won't need genshin to run
I'm quite sure you need the full Genshin install, they cross over a lot, leaks say you can use the Miliastra character in the Genshin overworld as well.
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>>722513814
I think they said their monetization is gonna be purely cosmetic stuff.
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>arriving at the xianzhou luofu
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my zzz monthly expire tomorrow
desu I think I might just drop it
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>>722496041
Nothing better came out yet. Hopefully Where Winds Meet will replace Genshin for me. I like timesink games, they're comfy with a podcast on
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>>722512551
>Genshin: Paimon
>ZZZ: Your sister/brother
>HSR: Pom-Pom
The winner is clear.
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>>722514010
I remember when I read the lore bit that actually SIX MORE CHINK SHIPS exist in the universe.
Just giving excuses for annual chinkshit for the next decade.
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>>722513960
>slop company giga confirmed
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How much do you care about the endgame in Mihoyo style games?
I started caring less once I realized that in order to beat the highest difficulty content you need to pull meta units (costing upward of 180 pulls) just to get like 2 or 3 pulls for finishing said content.
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>>722513404
>>722513884
sounds interesting. if it's as you say, I'm surprised I don't see people making a bigger deal about it. guess people have to start making stuff with it first.
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>>722512867
Waves... withered
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>>722514057
what's the point of a monthly when you only need like 6 characters to beat everything in the game
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>>722514159
don't give them any ideas kek
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>>722514243
You need nine if you want to do deadly assault
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>>722514187
These games tend to have cheevos and rewards for clearing endgame content once, I try to grab those, then I'm done. Keeping up with the meta is never worth it but trying to worm your way into meta once to claim all the cheevos is fun
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>>722514381
if you need 3 fully S rank limited teams for deadass, you're a bad player
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>>722514494
Opinion brought to you by the "well yes I rolled for C1 and a signature weapon, it was a bargain, but I'm basically F2P, here's a youtube video of some other guy clearing it with 4 stars" gang
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>>722514217
>guess people have to start making stuff with it first.
It'll release with Mihoyo made modes for sure.
One of the trailers showed a fucking 3D MOBA, with creeps and towers and shit. I've been nolifing Deadlock recently, I can't imagine going mid and molesting phone teens in Defense of the Archons
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>>722514494
I don't even bother with it, just pointing out that you need nine not six.
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>>722514187
I do actually like difficult fights in JRPGs and team building, so I do enjoy the endgame in HSR, since the devs stopped making main story content challenging in any way.
Like fuck, seeing city get invaded and all of the invading monster just staring at corners so that they wouldn't aggro on players was stupid as hell. I actually liked it when some standard fights hit hard as hell, and I had to manage my skill usage not to die.
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>>722514652
>Mihoyo made modes
Aren't people already making shit in the beta? They'll probably just ship with that
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>>722514652
BillyGODS run this shit.
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>>722514187
It's the most important thing for me because it's the only content that allow you to regularly engage with the gameplay
the quests and story are dogshit so I don't look forward to them at all
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I have yet to see a genshin related thread where the majority of anons don't;t talk like paid shills
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>>722514608
never rolled for copies but i did get the sig if it seemed good
it's enough to clear DA with 2 limited S ranks at most per team
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>>722514653
Not really. You can get full Polychrome rewards from just getting 6 out of 9 stars in Deadly Assault, which can be done with just two teams. Or you can get 2-stars with three teams, and you most definitely don't need giga-invested latest characters for that.
Yes, your characters need to be well built, but that just takes time.
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>>722515296
>2 limited S ranks
Yeah because the weapon is another S rank
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>>722515229
You're shilling Persona right now.
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>>722516223
cool samefag bro
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>>722516615
I've never played a Persona game in my life. Expedition 33, the Game of the Year, was better than the Persona franchise.
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>>722516223
According to anon, there is absolutely no difference between this >>722499898
And using a reaction image unrelated to your post
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I hate that Wuwa is suffering from a massive content drought
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>>722516991
just a few more days bro
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>>722516223
If someone didn't already know that was Rise, then how would they know it is a Persona shill?
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>>722516953
trying too hard now
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>>722507893
People who call genshin or genshin derivatives "greedy" never played older gachas. I do not miss having to save 5 months for a guaranteed spark in GBF.
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>>722509546
the jank is sovlful
I like spotting new gestures whenever they add more story
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>>722517463
I heard old gachas became really greedy after a Persona collab too since they know they're going to EoS right after.
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>>722509883
huh...
maybe I should reinstall
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>>722517897
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One thing I can't understand, if you can invest in artwork and music and make it top-notch in your gacha game, why not hire better writers too?
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>>722518168
Part of it is the inherent need to shill new characters that makes the writing bad.
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>>722518168
storytelling in china won't make sense to westerners
and likewise good stories from the west don't make sense to chinese
the cultures are just too different
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>>722518392
Don't know about that, lord of the mysteries is chinese and read a billion times better than any chink gachashit
As far as videogames are concerned, Ai Limit had pretty decent writing too
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The writing is bad because I don't have the patience to immerse myself in every story presented.
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>>722516991
that's just the gacha-ness. wuwa puts a lot of effort into it's main quest presentation but it's still a gacha-ass gacha. Like, you wanted more meaningful long term content? lol no. Have another browser game tier side event that will disappear at the end of the month. wuwa has the story stuff pretty down, now they should start reconsidering the actual content of updates.
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>>722517806
I've observed the opposite, dying gachas often become super generous in order to keep players playing. But yeah slop collabs are a bad sign too. P5 is the whoriest of all franchises, they'd collab with my mom
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>>722518758
I dunno, Nier's 2B gives Persona a run for its money.
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>>722518168
People that can write are writing for more respected mediums, not videos games, and certainly not gachas. The best you can hope for is people that understand tropes and how to use them.
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It's not a hoyo thread without the obligatory wuwa shills
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>>722515296
how do people get such high scores in da i can barely get 2 stars
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I miss Kianners,,,
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>>722518168
MIhoyo games has to be approved by government officials to avoid any controversial themes which is not really optimal for creating good stories.
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>>722519078
just use characters the current bosses were made to shill
the pic below is old, when it used to be easier though
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>>722518940
genshin is the gacha everyone knows and wuwa is the gacha that's pushing quality hardest currently. Their being mentioned in the same sentence is inevitable.
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>>722519078
He just told you, you roll for meta S ranks and their engines.
Then you don't have to care about any of the mechanics and just do your rotations to shit out damage.
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>>722496313
Genshin handles its chinkwank the best. They have a yearly Lantern Rite around the same time CN New Year happens. There's always a new character, a story, sometimes even a region, and then the next patch is back to someplace else. I wish HSR did it too instead of dragging us by force into Luofu whenever they run out of ideas.
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>>722519078
2 mindscapes per character + wengine

Pay up gweilo.
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>>722519078
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>>722519204
but i dont have any of them
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>>722519602
>Genshin handles its chinkwank the best
you are fucking delusional and need to stop slurping dawei's semen daily
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZwFdXdhSyM
same shit happens in all nuhoyo games
hi3 was the least offensive because fuhua was such a good character, something that their normie games do not have
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>genshit story sucks!!
meanwhile I'm literally playing the game for the story
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>>722496041
not anymore. I played hsr and zzz, but both have such trash story and events. Animations are great, and combat is ok, but both games just lack that something for me
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>>722520014
>posts sovl
>i'm supposed to hate this
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>>722520106
Life must be so enjoyable with standards this low.
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>>722520195
I've read LotR three times and finished Umineko a few years ago, so mucho texto doesn't frighten me. Genshin objectively has interesting world building, and it's fun finding new clues by exploring and theorycrafting. If it's not your cup of tea then that's fine too.
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>>722520195
Life must be so miserable with butthurt so high
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>>722520195
VIDEO GAMES
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>>722520532
The world building is trash because for 10 ideas it introduces it uses one and trashes 9 others
The game is also quite literally 99% telling 1% showing, it's the textbook example of terrible storytelling
Umineko, despite how heavily flawed it is, at least does that part right because every lore element, as convoluted as the story can get, end up being tackled one way or another.
Because it has vision, Ryukishi knew what he was going for (at least until BT died), gacha don't have any vision. Writers just throw shit at the wall and see what still stick years down the line, it has nothing engaging to offer, it doesn't spark your curiosity as you know every story element will never take precedence over the constant character shifting that has to align with the rate-up banners, the patch structure, the current gaming trends and so many other factors
I still remember gritting my teeth through Genshin's quests thinking I could read literally anything else and witness an infinitely better and soulful story. Should've caught up with Rance starting from 01 to VI instead of suffering through this natlan shitshow.
And don't get me started on the dialogues.
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>>722520532
>Genshin objectively has interesting world building, and it's fun finding new clues by exploring and theorycrafting
I'm playing for the same reason, also the exploration is fun because all the areas look nice and distinct from each other.
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>>722521227
>for 10 ideas it introduces it uses one and trashes 9 others
elaborate
>The game is also quite literally 99% telling 1% showing, it's the textbook example of terrible storytelling
A lot of the stuff they only "tell" is the kind that will get the game's age rating raised. Like just in 6.0 there were notes about some lovecraftian goat that got eaten, and then the guys who ate it died horrible deaths.
No shit a gory horror VN can show that shit unlike a fucking family friendly game.
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I really want to give ZZZ a try, but after juggling Genshin and HSR at the same time, I’ve realized I just can’t handle more than two gacha games. I actually quit HSR right before 3.0 update. The powercreep and restrictive team-building just killed my motivation. Currently, Genshin is only hoyo game I still play.
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>>722521683
I keep eyeing ZZZ because I finally have space for more games, but all the recent characters look lame and samey.
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>>722521902
>all the recent characters look lame and samey.
Makes it easier to pull for reruns.
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>>722521902
Obol looks great
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>>722521931
I think it's comfy.
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>>722521683
>>722521902
should've jumped on during the anniversary
also zzz is waaaay less time consuming than genshin
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>>722496041
I wish i had a stinky hoyogooner gf.
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>>722522153
I don't mind a game being time consuming
HSR is doghit and takes the least amount of time, I only play it because of a few units I'm planning to roll
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>>722496041
Never played this chinkslop. Hot girls though.
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>>722521931
Bit ugly yeah, at least it isnt as clostrophobic like Fontain and Natlan's hubs were.
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>>722522542
Fontaine city was so annoying. Really hard to climb anywhere. Though natlan units probably changed that.
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>>722521615
NTA but a lot of games that are family friendly on the surface actually show some dark stuff like Dragon Quest V or Earthbound, DQ V has on-screen child abuse
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>>722522873
No it doesn't nigger.
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>>722522873
Japan's age ratings were historically pretty lenient. Didn't Earthbound have a really fucked up boss battle that was based on the dev's personal trauma? I remember reading that when giygas memes where everywhere.
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>>722523254
Madason was a literal child slave
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>>722523536
Slavery is just slavery.
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>>722522873
you don't need to look that far back, honkai 3rd and genshin are both 13+ on the app store yet honkai shows a lot more stuff than genshin
but that's because honkai is (or rather, was until APHO) the passion project
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>>722496278
i want to be her
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What does Mihoyo have against male characters?
Both Flins and Kinich have terrible gameplay.
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>>722524368
don't care
still rolling for Varka
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>>722524502
>intentionally rolling for standard banner characters
lol
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>>722524368
flins feels fine though
I never rolled raiden so finally using a burst dps is fun
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I don't. They're kind of a garbage company that only managed to get successful by striking the open-world mobile market first. Genshin was fun for the first year but quickly devolved into a slog after the Inazuma arc.
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>>722522153
Not playing the games is even MORE timesaving.
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>>722520014
>posts Miss Yun Jin
>I'm supposed to hate it
Fuck you, I still use her in theatre. She actually got a Wikipedia page out of this too.
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>>722523536
and in Genshin Arle is literally child trafficker that owns orphanage filled child psychopaths and spies, just saying
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>>722524539
Nobody wants this.
Nobody believes this.
One leaker who said it took it back.
Only shitposters still say it.
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>>722496041
because i JUST. KEEP. WINNING
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>>722527376
Well guess what?
I am a shitposter.
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melusines have come back to genshin and so have I
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>>722527505
Nod Krai gave one of the first follow ups to a world quests, from Fontaine (Questioning Melusine and Answering Machine)
We got Sidone and Curve
They're starting with the Fontaine connections for the Sandrone story.
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>>722520532
if you really care about genshit lore then you should play hi3 because the mihoyo multiverse (including genshit) is based on its core principles
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>>722527824
I hope to see TaloCHAD again.
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>>722529810
she needs to meet the tsundere cube, else i send a box of stinkbugs in hoyo's PO box
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>>722524067
>the passion project
The only "passion" in HI3 are some of the anime cutscenes and that's it
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>>722496041
>are you not bored of them?

no
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>>722520409
>DUDE YIXUAN IS SO OP!!!!
>Has the sig
Every fucking time
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>>722530625
that's normal
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>>722508407
It's really bad when I can suffer through 1 million hahas in kiseki but I can't stand reading 1 bloated line in genshin. I actually have gotten into books and read some 900+ page ones so don't start with the zoomers can't read crap, am millennial anyways.
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I love Banyue and I believe he must have more porn than Flora has. Therefore ZZZ is saved.
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>>722531302
Homosexual.
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>>722520409
>yixuan
>qingming
I'm gonna be sick.
What happened to the ZZZ I loved?
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>>722531425
we visiting the mandatory not-china region, it'll be over next year don't worry
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Genshin launching with half Europe half China was the best decision ever.
Its a Chinese game, so its not like it was avoidable all together, but at least we didnt have a full solo year of China wank.
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>>722531632
Liyue is inoffensive enough and got really good additions later (Chenyu and Chasm)
Somehow all of HSR, ZZZ and wuwa chinklands have been agonizing nightmares
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>>722531390
Have you seen how hot he is?
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Remember when we used to have comissions full of SOVL?
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>>722531827
ZZZ gave us Ju Fufu and now Dailyn, so it is good.
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>>722531921
Not really
Seriously i don't remember that commission
Also you better have a phone controller or else i'm going to bully for playing touchscreen. Playing on mobile is already bad enough.
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>been playing genshin every day since week 1
>stopped playing zzz after they removed the tvs

the endless corridors of mook fighting got tiresome every day when that's all there is
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I hope Waterkuma found a better home.
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>>722532162
You're probably a filthy speed reader but TL;DR It was a commission were you had to rescue a bunch of soldiers from a hollow. The ending changed depending if you saved everyone or not
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>>722530575
twintails sexo
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>>722533163
Wrong pic
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i only play 1 gacha and i doubt i'll ever pick another one as i'm not a neet.
modding reignited my desire to play and i went started going back to get 100% in every zone, starting from mondstandt.
in fontaine i needed to do about 5 hours of world quests to get the last hydroculus and it reminded me why i stopped exploring. now i'm doing liyue expansion.
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>>722533220
sadly she was not voiced
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>>722499091
The music and the cute boys are the only good things that Genshin still does better than other gacha. The graphics and gameplay feel outdated when compared to "next-gen" gacha, and the lore has always been a mess.
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>>722533291
eh, it's cool
she gave us a some neat lore and I was glad to see her show up in Nasha town again
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>>722530575
>quest has a cute npc
>don't skip a single line of dialogue
it's that simple, hoyoniggers
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>>722533268
>in fontaine i needed to do about 5 hours of world quests to get the last hydroculus
That one was a motherfucker that killed my Fontaine exploration. Im just now starting to pick it back up.
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>HI3
Played since 2018, dropped it in 2021 when it's clear my wife was getting left behind. I made the right decision.
>Genshin
Dropped it during Ganyu's patch. Spent a month farming for a pyro goblet for Diluc, got nothing. Spent a while simply login in to get maintenance freebies and returner gems. Uninstalled completely in 2023 when it was clear that the newer character designs wouldn't interest me at all
>Starrail
Got to when you unlocking the gacha, dropped, because I abhor cutscene shit with stiff gameplay
>ZZZ
Dropped after the 2nd story mission. HI3, but attached to a boring world I have to walk around is a dog shit combination. Shame too, aesthetics were cool. Probably would've liked the game if it had actual levels instead of stale arenas
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>>722497459
ZZZ is still king btw
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>>722496041
>are you not bored of them?

no
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>>722534368
i was also locked by wrio character quest and focused mode was not available, so i had to do that on top of everything.
sucks because i did remuria beforehand and it was smooth exploration for 90% of the time. i fear the same quest shit is gonna be in natlan since i did skip a lot there
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>>722532440
>Jahoda
>agree with every word and happened to me verbatim
Good post
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>>722496041
I'm not playing them indeed
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'hoda thread
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Genshin adding two disabled characters within a few months is interesting.
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>>722498081
Until it becomes predatory trash
The only good thing you can do is unironically abandon all gachashit
I started to play monster hunter world and my god the skill ceiling in that game is high and you don't have to drop hundreds of bucks for your weapons or armours you all farm in game or get git gudded
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>>722496041
Cos as much a v and reddit hate on it
I still like the simple gameplay and story of genshin
Also I use mods so all girls look cute as fuck

I didn't like or stick with any other hoyo game tho
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>>722498256
You're beyond fucking retarded
Triple AAA slop is still waaaaaaaaay less expensive than gachashit
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>>722535357
jahoda and ?
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>>722535357
but Paimon has been in the game since launch...
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>>722510663
>Wuthering shit
Stfu nigger, stop glazing that piece of shit
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Pre 1.3 ZZZ was special, but the idiot developers tore the veil off. It's just so cynical, you can see the decisions of the suits and the internal targets behind everything they do now.
I can't find info on the producer of the game but he deserves crucifixion.
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>>722535442
kek we get monster hunter cucks in here now
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>>722535538
Skirk
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>>722535647
Better than your nigger gachashit will ever be
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>nothing to do in game
>check co-op menu
>half of players have russian hieroglyphs in bio
>the other half seem to be women or fags
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>>722535883
Must be your region
I only get muricans and latinos
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>>722535883
The majority of EU is Russian girls, what did you expect? Genshin is most likely the most equally gender split game in recent memory.
Also, female accounts with male character showcases are the friendliest and will let you gather items or co-op. I've never seen a "waifu collector" accept my co-op requests or let me farm in their world, they're little catty cunts.
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>>722499912
That's because you need your brain to focus on kiseki to justify the sunk cost of investing in such a mid franchise.
Unisuga is never coming back.
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I accidentally spent 40 pulls on the wrong banner
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>>722536372
bricked
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>>722497459
>The characters are very well written
I like most of the cast, but let's not lose our minds, anon
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>>722536490
who is poorly written
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>>722499091
Does anyone know the name of the song that plays in the current event?
And yeah I really liked NK's music. Initially I wanted to argue with anons saying it was like The Witcher 3 but it really is lmao.
I like how your song gets vocals later on, it feels weird hearing it now without them.
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>>722536626
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4XL820U0yQ
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>>722496278
Yeah the mission in ZZZ where you take over Qingyi's body is great.
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>>722511826
anyone can do this though? Now clear Stygian Dire
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>>722536764
Dire is for whales. Fearless is the f2p benchmark and the new IT is probably harder than that.
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Normally I don't gachashit a chance, but today I'm in the mood for listening to gachafags if you shill your game THROUGH THE OST.
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>>722536569
retard shogun
"genius of war" kokomi
dragonwank man
LORD kazuha
CEO of GEO
sumeru gay worm couple
sky denier
most of natlan and nod krai are decent, I'll give you that
I won't talk shit about mond characters either, they are the closest to "family" of all the regions
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>>722502013
gay haha...
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>>722536963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CXRvbAbxi0
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>>722536928
New IT is like menacing tier at best, Abyss Floor 12 tier.
Dire is the benchmark for f2p getting -good-, you can easily find C0 clears, fearless is for sleepwalking.
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>>722536963
lay your ears upon this, my nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4UabWhrlx4
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>>722537110
there are no c0 dire clears
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>>722536963
https://youtu.be/CyrsVvea0TM
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>>722537154
Whatever delusion keeps you up at night, friend.
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>>722536128
get your own berries fatui scum
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I like the combat in zzz and been playing since release
Tried to get into hsr once but it's an autobattle with no skill expression so I got bored
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>>722536963
Genshin enjoyer here.

Honestly it's futile to find recommended songs since the OST as a whole is so good and it's FUCKING MASSIVE. It's actually insane.

>There are over 1,500 released tracks in the official Genshin Impact soundtrack, with the official wiki listing 1,504 tracks as of late 2024, though this number is constantly growing with new updates. This figure includes music from the main game, regional soundtracks, character themes, and other official releases produced by HOYO-MiX.
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>>722537126
ormos is so overplayed
for me it's vestige of dahri
idk why i find it so emotional, especially after 1:02
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E84beUHlIYw
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>>722537272
That's faeLORD to you, goat.
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>>722537198
I didn't really like this song in-game but seeing that cool vampire looking guy surrounded by cute aryans has made me appreciate it a lot more and now I love it.
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>>722536963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMoyTZi48_o

love violins and strings
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>>722537354
blasting some hype songs on spotify and going ham in tower is probably the most fun you can have in zzz
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>>722499636
>You are saying you basically quit both games at their peak
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Since it's a genshin OST circlejerk might as well
https://youtu.be/hfrF38SeiME
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>>722537110
I easily did fearless this time around and while IT was also pretty easy I could feel that some people would get cucked hard by the DPS checks in the common enemy chambers.

Dire is possible f2p but only if you don't like saving your gems and blow them on constellations and weapons which is kinda retarded. And since you just get an ugly skin it's pointless. Thus, it's for whales only. Because contrary to your belief you do need to vertically invest for it quite a bit.
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>>722535635
1.2 you mean
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>>722535883
So play with the women and hit on them?
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>>722537653
...pre 1.3 means 1.2 and earlier, anon.
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>>722536963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RS0K6l-YqxY
A personal themesong so good, zzz felt the need to copy it.
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Just cleared the current IT at the highest difficulty.
Was not too bad, but hydro and electro are some of my best units though.
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>>722535883
>women or fags
Not women but troons
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>>722537739
that shit was so out of nowhere
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>>722537508
>surrounded by cute aryans
Mister Rakshit, it's not normal to refer to white people as "Aryans", only Indians do that to insinuate that they're "high caste" and thus closer to Europeans in their demented worldview.
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>>722536963
>no one posted Bina
y'all niggas living in the past
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5-Uc9oqFDU
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>>722537937
>getting this triggered over a joke
unironically take your meds
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>Why do you still play hoyogames
I don't because all gacha is a waste of time and money and I barely have enough time as it is.
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>>722538042
>posts the V1 beta
Well no shit, they downgraded it for the release version.
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favorite version of Dream Aria is one that only appears in the TCG trailer

https://youtu.be/JUSZOjmD_1U?t=54
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>>722537643
It's VERY possible to do Dire C0, the whale difficulty is Dire 180s. Effectively requiring twice the damage is the crazy part.
Can see all the f2ps running weapon skins, but can still have the whales pay for the servers for a small cosmetic difference.
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>>722535883
>Can't permanantly block every faggot with pronouns listed because the blocklist is too small
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>>722531425
I wonder if there's a chinese, japanese or whatever other country equivalent of this going
>damn those american games and and their america wank
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>avatarfagging with Aether
that's some quality bait right here
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>>722538183
considering how poorly the american biker faction from zzz sold in china, yes
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>>722538183
the closest thing that came to mind was the chiyo-chan manga where chiyo-chan was a huge westaboo gamer
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>>722538158
You're lying to yourself.
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I wasn't expecting to have most replies come from Genshin. The OP alone lists 9 different games and the thread has lots of discussion about competitors.

>>722537082
Nice piano music. I would put it in the background while doing something else, although it would be hard to explain to others that it comes from a mobile game about dating men.

>>722537198
Is mihoyo the only gacha company that organizes concerts for their games or are there others?
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>>722538315
>Is mihoyo the only gacha company that organizes concerts for their games or are there others?
nta and I'm not sure but I wonder if other gacha companies release all the CDs for free too
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>>722538315
mihoyo made A LOT of money with genshin during covid
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>>722538315
only three are relevant and out of them one is a casinoslop and other filters average gachaslurper too much
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>>722537739
>Go to prison for punching a guy
>Learn nothing, continue punching shit and putting an axe into people's face, and even start throwing explosives at people
>Become queen of underground prison fight club
>Get awesome themesong
>Turns out the guy she punched kind of deserved it and ended up in prison, himself
>He's now her personal piece of meat
>This shit is never followed up on and we never see her again
fuck, man
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>>722538315
Stuff like Elden Ring and Undertale had concerts but I don't know about gacha.
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>>722538276
the biker faction was the most soul that game had
things went downhill rapidly since 1.2
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>>722538487
genshin had a world tour
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>>722538487
still regretting not buying those nier automata concert tickets even if they were $200 each
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>>722538514
>turned gigachad pompey into a boss

did they ever follow up on the guy that poisoned him
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>>722538642
he and his gay lover wolf ran away never to be seen again
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>>722538315
>Is mihoyo the only gacha company that organizes concerts for their games or are there others?
no, some other popular ones do too
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>>722537405
>There are over 1,500 released tracks in the official Genshin Impact soundtrack
Those are only the released ones. There's a ton of unreleased music tracks and sort stings that play in quests or scripted parts, or for ambience
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Unnamed_Bishui_Plain_Soundtrack_1
Everyone has heard that for example but it's not a released track, just ambience.
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>>722538686
wolf guy will be playable in this version, at some point
he appeared in the trailer with the rest of the playable characters
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>>722536963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-rRPJnilzs
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>>722538778
>Everyone has heard that for example but it's not a released track, just ambience.
Damn that's crazy. Is there a website or something that tracks all this stuff so I can download it conveniently?
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>>722538807
>release him way later than they should have based on story relevance
>actually they'll shill him in his release patch and be a part of the story again
>actually leakers said he's an A rank however
is the ZZZ team smoking crack
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>>722538820
my little chef can't be this cute
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>>722538923
still mad
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>>722538909
you don't need leakers to realize he was always an A rank
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>>722538923
and yet Chiori is the one with Kirino's VA
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>>722536963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvd0WwZlsys
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>>722538887
>Is there a website or something that tracks all this stuff so I can download it conveniently?
It's all on that wiki page I linked, just click Unreleased Soundtracks and there's a list. Although there isn't much reason to download them other than presentation, they're just alternates/leitmotifs from complete tracks.
For me, it's the solo violin main theme.
https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Unnamed_Mondstadt_Soundtrack_5
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>>722539135
I regret rolling for Chiori.
>Albedo gets buff
>top bitchy geo hebe slot goes to Sandrone
>is powercrept and borderline useless without c1
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>>722538807
Manato is not even remotely related to soi wolf, retardbro
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>>722539203
Was looking for something more convenient but I guess this'll do. Thanks.
Weird that this song also doesn't have a name, we've all heard it a trillion times for sure.
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>>722535598
I told you not to kneejerk, niggy.
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>>722539280
wasn't talking about manato, but the guy you posted
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>>722539250
I'll never regret my day 1 Chiori because she reminds me of my girlfriend.
Isn't the Albedo "buff" just getting Durin to work? You can use Mona for that.
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>>722539372
You can but Albedo is still meta relevant now while Chiori got mogged. Speaking of Mona though I keep getting reminded of this one guy arguing she wasn't good earlier this year. Mona never really fell off in usefulness if you wanted to use her so it's cool to see her get a huge buff like this.
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>>722539591
mona sucks, in more ways than one
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>>722539591
>Albedo is still meta relevant now while Chiori got mogged
I love Albedo but he literally does nothing. Nothing except a genuine kit rework could make him functional, he has 1.X kit disease.
>>722539717
She's really useful in theatre for her taunt and burst clearing some waves before the timer.
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>genshin
couldnt stand it after a few years, every new character is so horrendously boring with uninspired kits, they shot themselves in the foot with the elemental reaction system on release and never recovered. nod krai being advertised to fix the story as a feature is cool and it's great to finally see the lore/characters being fully integrated into the story in an interesting way. world stopped being fun to explore after people complained about the puzzles being too hard, now everything is baby-tier
>hsr
basically a visual novel at this point, actual gameplay outside of the end game modes is utterly non-existent and the puzzles are babies first jrpg tier. the lore/story in my opinion is utterly fantastic and the level of spectacle involved with the combat is enough to keep me involved, and due to the nature of it being turn based it has the most depth in terms of team composition & stat tuning
>zzz
cool animations when they pop up, most stuff to do as far as end game is concerned, i think it has some of better designed events in the series, but the game has easily the most repetitive gameplay loop of all 3, the story is UTTER garbage, and it is hilariously easy despite being advertised as their most skill based game. lost interest entirely when they decided to turn the MCs into superheros with sekrit special powers and take us to not-china
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>>722539370
He wasn't shown in any trailer he's a one-off npc just like the meme monkey
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>>722537775
i just wish they would let us fight with less than 4 characters
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>>722539919
That would certainly simplify things.
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>>722539890
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>>722539919
lol no, if they let you do this then you won't have to pull 32 characters, now go back to pulling gweilo
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>>722536963
>people only posting mihoyo garbage
zzz is the only hoyo game that has like 2 good ost tracks (besides hi3 cinematics which are not ost), everything else is pure garbage
gacha babies really need to play things outside their shitty echo chamber
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2DBeby7ni8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q09ZkGJNDs4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5M4Fo0eUg8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH_lxnFRiFg
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>>722539919
that would negate the whole point of vigor
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>>722539994
That's Manato retardbro
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>>722499091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzRwOOmxhnM and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfD-zFe26CU are the only songs i remember from genshin
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>>722539812
He does decent AOE damage, boosts EM for your team, and gives you shields.
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>>722540129
That first one is etched in my mind since I kept alt tabbing to shitpost while it was playing since the quest was so boring.
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>>722496041
Hsr died after the fate collab flopped
Genshin has been dying for several years since wormeru and Nod krai flopped
Zzz is still pumping out ai generated filler characters and no one gives a shit
Honkai turd is so dead the Yuri troons dont even bother shilling it on /v/ anymore
What went wrong hoyoshills?
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>>722540117
well at least there won't be another furry gay bait in the game then
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>>722540367
>he doesn't know
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so, how much EM are we looking for Flins? He gets a fucktone from Ineffa + Aino + Sucrose so I think is better to focus on ATK%.
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>>722511493
I've played every single hoyo game for over 1 year and have played WuWa since the first anniversary after being uninterested during its first year.
Gameplay and exploration wise it blows Genshin out of the water. The only thing Genshin has over it is art/world design. My main gripe with WuWa at the moment is that it has far more mechanical depth in its combat, but all the new characters are heavily leaning into the genshin thing where main dps has a dedicated support that releases at the same time and if you don't get them both it's a major dps loss and their kit is non-functional at worst or clunky at best.
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>>722540638
>exploration wise
I don't get this since it's basically linear with interconnected paths, not really open world.
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>>722513425
>start genshin
>go to not china
wow this is a novelty haha neat never played a game with such chinese influence before !!
>start star rail
>go to not china
alright not sure what cultivationism has to do with space, but the xianzhou is cool i guess
>start zzz
>go to not china
alright im fucking sick of this shit now
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>>722540092
that's really well made
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>>722540790
ZZZ could have worked if they stuck to a modern depiction of Hong Kong, not go in a fucking temple to make amulets and do cultivation shit
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>>722514187
If you aren't trying to minmax your characters for end game I genuinely have no idea what you even play these games for. You will see people who have c6'd a character and they have UTTERLY dogshit artifacts and haven't cleared anything. For what?
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>and exploration wise
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>>722539851
>they shot themselves in the foot with the elemental reaction system on release
This is an insane take to me.
The reactions are the most interesting thing I have seen combat wise from a gacha.
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I think I feel more confident with starting IT, I spent all day leveling artifacts, the 4th substat reveal actually made me realize I had good artifacts for my Mualani and Varesa I had never leveled, they're good now. Built Ororon and Dori, thank god Scroll is an easy set. Believe it or not I need EOSF pieces in 2025
Still nothing for Flins and Lauma though.
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>>722514187
>I realized that in order to beat the highest difficulty content you need to pull meta units (costing upward of 180 pulls) just to get like 2 or 3 pulls for finishing said content.

the only content that needs meta units is the final SO difficulty and that gives zero primos
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>>722540762
I definitely don't like how you can see all the exploration area shit on the map in Wuwa in the new regions. Exploration doesn't feel as organic as it did in the 1.0 regions, but it sure as shit is a lot quicker and less tedious than genshin. Have fucking fun exploring Genshin without a character that can fly around.
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>>722541108
I never really farmed EOSF either. I occasionally dump artifacts into the strongbox for it since I might need a burster character someday but I haven't yet.
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>>722496041
I thought hoyo was vtubers? I'm confused.
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>>722541458
I need them for Beidou and Sara
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>>722541108
4th stat reveal was an incredible qol and I cleared hundreds of artifacts out that I was holding on to eventually fish for a cr/cd as a 4th stat
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>>722514709
The fights were harder at the start because you hadn't outscaled the world level by a hilarious degree at that point. If you're at the highest world level, have been playing the game for a while, and can clear the end game effortlessly, then yeah the story mode shit won't be hard what so ever. They need to add a new world level you can toggle on and off that doesn't effect drops but tunes the story to MOC level difficulty.

I do think it's funny though that their solution to people complaining about how longwinded the quests were was to obstensibly remove random npc fodder fights and make the actual exploration/zones mostly linear/optional during the story, giving you the opportunity to come back later. Then they made the latest story patch take LITERALLY 6 hours of almost totally uninterrupted exposition.
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>>722540046
BA (specially the end) > AK > Nikke > PGR
But tbdesu all of them are generic trance music that become repetitive really fast.
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>>722541778
I see the point if he likes the genre but blanket calling them better than the rest is dumb.
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>>722540046
>Said this then proceed to post trashes
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>>722541778
ba, ak and nikke tend to diversify ost genres a lot
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>>722542010
>trashes
Russianbro, it's late, go to bed.
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>>722541091
it was cool for the first year or two, but the limitations it creates as far as interesting team dynamics and character kits started to show cracks as early as inazuma. dendro added some MUCH needed variety to the system at that point. nod krai's release is as far away to dendro is now compared to its release after the start of the game but we dont have anything new or meaningful. look at the new characters released, theyre literally all auto attack bots with dedicated supports that go on field for two seconds before disappearing. skirk's cooking girl support is the most egregious example of this in a while
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>>722542208
>skirk's cooking girl support is the most egregious example of this in a while
She's not as locked down as you think. Technically Ganyu is now a top tier DPS because of Escoffier.
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you know the wutard is here because he writes walls of text that he read somewhere else
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>>722542292
i never rolled for ganyu because aimed shot "gameplay" is the worst thing in the game
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>>722542208
>but we dont have anything new or meaningful. look at the new characters released, theyre literally all auto attack bots

what in the fuck are you talking about
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>>722542292
>Technically Ganyu is now a top tier DPS because of Escoffier.
lol
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>>722542641
non retards rolled c6 ganyu which completely changes her playstyle
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>non retards rolled c6
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>non retards rolled ganyu
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>play genshart
>not roll C6 of the best character in genshart and one of the very few good characters there
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>best character
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>me brown
>me post le grentext
>me ebin own hurhurdurr
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>>722542662
>escoffier
support with no field time, negative gameplay
>skirk
cool effects, ult is one big damage number then you mash left mouse button, auto attacker
>ineffa
negative gameplay, support for new """""reaction""""" that is literally just electrocharged with a shitty gradient on the text
>flynns
ult is one big damage number then you mash left mouse button, auto attacker, cant even plunge
>nefer
ult is one big damage number then you mash left mouse button, auto attacker
>lauma
negative gameplay, but can prance around overworld which is cool i guess

not to mention 90% of the characters in the game still have the issue where theyre ult bolts and therefor terrible for overworld exploration, or have aspects of their kit that are utterly worthless and not worth using (example - neuv's auto attacks, navia's charge attack)
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>>722543024
biggest glow up character in terms of gameplay is hu tao because she weaves plunges into her charge attack gameplay now.........................
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>>722543442
>troon tao
rope
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>>722543304
this is why natlan was a step in the right direction, but retards will complain because "muh ugly aesthetic", "muh terrain", "muh character switch"
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>>722542662
he's a retard
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>>722543929
>ANOTHER auto attack character
>WOWEE ZOWEE
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>>722544031
from the guy who thinks elemental reactions are bad
yes, a retard
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WUWAJEET WE NEED YOU TO DERAIL THIS THREAD PLEASE
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>>722544106
i didnt say they were bad, i said it was a very limiting system and mihoyo being utterly creatively bankrupt with their new characters is proof of that
you cant just make a character with a cool kit that does something, it has to be integrated into this incredibly restrictive set of rules where in some reactions are just inherently far better than others. why do you think it took 4 years until mauvika to get a melt character that was good?
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>>722496041
I like Genshin, but never got into the other games. Tried ZZZ, but didn't enjoy it.
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>>722544268
>why do you think it took 4 years until mauvika to get a melt character that was good?
dev incompetency
same reason why Ganyu was the only singular good design in entire genshit until fucking Natlan
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>>722544268
>elemental system is restrictive
>skirk is auto attack character
>flins is auto attack character
>mauv is first good melt character

you are clearly a wutard regurgitating shit you read online once
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>>722544268
it's pretty obvious you don't even play the game
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>>722543770
I liked Natlan but the characters sucked aside from the last ones that weren't from Natlan, and their exploration perks which were cool. But the gameplay was meh.
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when is escoffier getting a rerun
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>>722545641
>he skipped
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>>722545980
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>>722545641
You should be asking when are they releasing a proper support instead of that ugly bitch
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>>722545980
I just need her C1.
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>>722545980
I'm glad I skipped her because my Skirk can still cleared stygian without her.
Also she was so amateur her bong's accent keep slipping out during SQ.
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>>722547641
>using engshitter dub
would've been smarter to roll her than skirk if you were just getting 1.
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>>722547886
Except for Inazuma dub EN > JP > KR > CN.
My wife Varessa sounds more cute and tomboyish in EN than cutesy moe blob in JP
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>>722503170
Reminder this guy got banned for spamming his charts in /zzz/ then fled to /vmg/ and cried about it
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>>722501065
I left Genshin before Natlan was added, I love the setting but the gacha-ness makes the game feel like a chore. I played HSR up to the closure of Acheron's quest, again, the gacha-ness turned me down, fucking game going PLAY THE MAIN QUEST TO DO THE TIME-LIMITED STUFF was annoying. I played a bit of ZZZ, but was tired of gacha by then and dropped it right away.

The area where this plays and the background music made Genshin feel like an actual game for a moment instead of gacha shit... until the song restarted instead of looping seamlessly, which killed the illusion https://youtu.be/SwocvTy51O4
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>>722548092
im sorry for your critically shit taste you disgusting pleb
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