It's funny Blizzard is clearly trying to make the game playable on XBox soon. A console that might even be around for much longer as the entire brand is now dying.
they'll probably do a native version of the consoleport add-on for controller support but I don't really see it coming to consoles. Maybe though. Years ago I thought they wouldn't release on console because the players would be crippled without add-ons but now that they're killing those it seems more likely.
How much easier can you make this game?
>>722498309Turn off combat. Make it a ERP simulator.
>>722498343The game already has a 1 button rotation. You just have to hit 1 key and the game will play itself.
>>722497501>playable on XBOXRetail WoW will be canceled after the current saga and every x years a new anniversary progression server will launch - all characters are fated to retire in their PoH and roleplay.WoW 2.0 will launch as a console-friendly experience but Microsoft will fuck it up with MTX sloppa out of the gate and it will never take off.
isn't the only issue that wow is entirely dependent on third party tools that blizzard refuses to just implement within the game itself proper
>>722498605the non add-on game is pretty fucking miserable to play. it's so fucking lazy and bad.
>>722498445Microsoft wants to replace ESO, the problem is that Zenimax is more competent than Blizzard even at their lowest now that firor left.Blizzard is disobeying EVERYTHING microsoft at every turn, and they cant do nothing because Holly Longdale is obviously having sex with the higher ups
>>722498605Quite the contrary. The game itself has become hollow and addons are the only reason to even have a shot at playing it.
>>722498605The issue with WoW is it's a fucking dad game. You just log in, get on your flying mount and brainlessly zoom from each of your dailie / weekly chores that were mind numbing before but even more thoughtless now with the one button. Everything dies super easily and everyone can aoe farm.The only point of playing retain is to get FOMO cosmetics or grind other cosmetics.
>>722498852WOW has some of the best stories in all of gaming. The story is fucking amazing.
>>722497501are female goblins still hot?
>for everyonewhat is this bullshit corpospeak? it's not for "everyone", its for retards. People who like complexity and depth can get fucked.
>>722498852youre supposed to do real content, not world quest slop
WoW is pretty adaptable for consoles. Especially for ps5 because of gyro. WoW never had "XIV tier" rotations either (played last day of vanilla, BC and WotLK until Arthas raid). Don't understand rotation masturbation either. Look at GW1 for example. The MMO with biggest amount of builds (only EVE beat it). And all thanks to limited skill slots. I heard ESO had similar system but it is ruined by light attack weaving.
>>722498935>what if girlboss princess was the best at everything and her father died so she's the king nowwelcome to every zone since bfa
xbox want to turn wow to console action game
Are there random gay furry quests still or did they get rid of the shitty writters? those images are the sole reason I don't play this game.
>>722498957It's not necessarily about making it easier. Just less retarded. Random example, do you like hitting Slice and Dice on rogue even though half their moves refresh it anyway? Is there a sane argument for not making something like that passive at that point and replacing it with a more fun or meaningful button? Like jesus
>>722499102>Look at GW1 for example. The MMO with biggest amount of buildsif youre counting suboptimal dogshit then retail WoW has way more
>>722497501Name a more diabolical combo to ruin your game than dad gamers and trannies
>>722499204>retard wow player still coping even after most of the game has already been dumbed down for literal retards
>>722499225Doubt. GW1 was designed as MTG but with skills instead of cards after all.
>>722499102they were going to add an over the shoulder cam but never did
>>722499513and magic frequently ends up with 2-3 playable decks making up an entire meta
>>722499484The issue WoW's had for ages has been its too complicated. Sure you can just mash buttons and do fine for questing and stuff, but if you want to be a competent player and do high level dungeons/raids, the barrier to entry is pretty high.
>>722497501Been hearing about the console port for about a decade now. Two more weeks?
>>722499692sure fag, thats why it peaked in popularity during wrath, because it was too complicated then, but now that its been dumbed down for idiots, all the players are coming back.You must be an actual WoW dev, nobody else could be this retarded.
Without looking it up : identify the armor type and class of each set.
>>722499843It was much simpler in Wrath
>>722499843Wrath specs were way less complicated what are you on about
>>722499225What about Rift? ESO also has a crap ton of builds.
Dumbing down the game is a good thing.If poopsockers with, in some cases, decades of experience, 1500 hours prepping per raid, have teams of programmers and data analysts going over their combat logs, and legions of fans giving them free stuff need 1000 wipes to clear a raid then I'm simply not going to bother trying.Raid difficulty went off the rails during WoD and kept getting worse ever since.
>>722497501sets from 20 years ago.just by looking at them you knew what class it is for
>>722499904sure fag, tell me more about how completely linear dungeons and literal one button rotations are more complicatedWho are you fucking kidding? Where are all the supposed new players that the modern simplicity is attracting? Retard dev
>>722499847rogue, healer, tank, caster (druid)?
>>722499484I think you're doing the coping here. Combat should be engaging but "rotations" shouldn't even exist unless players invent them organically, if you ask me. Each ability should be a tool that is useful on a singular level. Any move that, say, is a fireball that is shitty and only exists to give me charges to spend that make some other fireball better for 4 casts or whatever should be pruned, that shit isn't hard, it is BORING
>>722500047Yeah cos spamming shadowbolt and not standing in fire is sooo taxing!
>>722500184Rotations exist because there is an optimal way to press your buttons in every game.
>>722500112Jesus Christ what the fuck happened
>/v/ spends years (nearly decades) saying that wow was the best gameplay during vanilla-wotlk.>blizz retvrns>suddenly this is badhmm
>>722500273>>722500380autism or pretending to be retarded?
Rotations exist because blizzard decided every class should be>Do filler bullshit until the good spell button lights up for you to hit one(1) time
>>722499847Priest, DK, Rogue, Shaman?Shaman's the only one i feel certain about though because of the wolf head.
IMO rotations shouldn't be more that 7 buttons. Some of these rotations are like 10+ it's fucking retarded.
>>722500184Rotations are the result of class functionality being met with the optimal way to maximize damage with a set of tools. Even as linear as FFXIV rotations go, the only reason they come to these conclusions is because it's the neatest and most consistent way to get the highest amount of DPS using the class's tools. You could try to do some strange nonmeta circle of abilities, but you tend to then fall into cooldowns not aligning, party synergies being out of time, or sometimes even just losing out on a huge potential for burst damage that you can distribute elsewhere when the boss jumps away.
>>722500496ok retard, if one button rotations are still rotations, how the fuck do you design a class that literally doesn't have a rotation but can still engage in combat?
>>722500125>completely linear dungeonsLike in wrath?>literal one button rotationsDidn't they just add this? You can't even use this at a high level anyways.
>722500592>one button rotation>rotate>between this one buttonshit baitno (you)
The last time Blizzard tried this in WoD, it made every class play worse. I'm sure everyone who played that expansion remembered that.
>>722499225https://gwpvx.fandom.com/It's not even close.
>>722500645mana and threat were also removed in wrath because it was too complicated for wrathbabies
>>722500645>You can't even use this at a high level anyways.2% of players do high level shiut.
>>722498309As much as required for a console port since that's what they are going for.
>>722500645>pit of saron>nexus>culling of strat>gundrak>halls of stone>oculus>completely linearYou didn't play wrath. Now shut the fuck up.
>>722500569FFXIV rotations are part of job design tho.Someone post current SMN rotation lol.
>>722500891Those were all very linear.
>>722500765>Went from absolute peak fury warrior in MoP, that broke retards brains and outed every shitter who couldn't understand vuln windows or manage rage properly>to...i actually don't fully remember WoD furyi just remember it being so shit by comparison i shelved my main and went assassination roguefuck WoD
>Everyone complains about a one button rotation>none of these fags are 3k io >none of these fags have cleared at least 4/8 mythic let alone 8/8 heroicI am usually the first person to shit on blizzards faggotry but you faggot niggers are just people who suck cock at a troon dad game complaining about how simple it is while dying in the fire. Die in a fire irl you fucking niggers
>>722500802>includes builds that are suboptimalthanks for proving my point lol
>>722500923XIV literally has a class that forces a hard rotation on your basic movesets. monk. That's not "player autism optimized" thats "faggot jap devs saw WoW and went THATS HOW WE MAKEDED MMO" and copied it shittily
>>722500958>literally just going to fucking lie to make a shitty point about an old videogameHoly fuck you are pathetic.
>>722501152anon have you ever run the nexus? You just go clockwise in a circle
>>722499847Don't know, Paladin, Warrior, Shaman.
>>722501152lmao dumb faggot outs himself
>>722501152I honestly don't remember if it was possible to go counter clockwise since i remember there being a jump, and that center boss needed the other 4 to die to be fightable i think?I do remember that everyone always went clockwise.
>>722501152Now look up how EQ dungeons looked like. BRD and BRS were the only proper dungeons in WoW and even then only barely.
>>722501152Are you really getting lost in here? What makes this "complex"?
>>722499843People literally quit because of ulduar being an obtuse mess
>>722501018every build in that page is viable and meta
>>722501438I'm not the one who is saying that old wow is too complex and needs to be dumbed down even more you stupid fucking retard. The whole point is that old WoW WASN'T "too complex" and therefore doesn't need to be fucking dumbed down even more.Holy shit you're retarded.
>>722501456and yet even without those retards playing wrath was still very popular.its almost like designing the game for the literal dumbest morons isn't actually a good idea.
wrath dungeons were fucking terrible holy shit anyone that defends those
>>722501526Yeah I don't know why you went on a tangent about dungeon layouts when everyone's talking about gameplay. You have a weird desire to be seen as the smartest person in the room.
>>722501478lolnoif you click whats actually meta there are barely any builds"great" and "good" are just cope categories for shit builds
Where are these anti addon faggots coming from suddenly? Game had addons since it's fucking inception. Have you been crying nonstop for the past 20 years? Or better yet, do you think after they remove addons everyone will suddenly start playing as bas as you so you won't stand out? You would still be a shitter even if the base game was tic tac fucking toe
>Those dungeons are also linearNO THEYRE NOT LOOK AT THIS MAP OF A CIRCLE WITH A SHORTCUT IN THE MIDDLE>But that's just a circle, you go around it one wayNOONE SAID IT WAS COMPLEX IDIOT
>>722501526Old wow was the dumbed down version, classic proved thisTWW is 100x more complex than Wrath
>>722501396>EQ dungeonsThose are open areas for multiple groups. It's not how WoW works. Why even bring EQ?Also Karazhan (peak).
>>722501656When they started designing fights around weakauras, which hasn't been a thing for 20 years.
how do you not run out of mana i dont get it
>>722501656>Competitive WoW player loses his cool on anonymous forumFucking pathetic. What are you doing.
>>722501641>too fucking dumb to even follow a basic coversation>bullshit psychoanalysis based on a few random posts on the internet from a person you know nothing aboutI don't know why you're going on a tangent about my supposed personality when everyone is talking about World of Warcraft. You have a weird desire to make yourself feel superior to random strangers on the internet.
>>722499847DK, not sure but it looks kinda faggy so I'll say Paladin, Warrior, Shaman.
>>722501526Old WoW ended in Vanilla. And while it really was a casual fucking shitshow compared to its peers at the time, the current WoW is way too esportified and is too demanding in all the wrong ways at the top end.
>>722501656>Where are these anti addon faggots coming from suddenly?I played WoW before modern type of full autopilot addons.
>>722501832>the current WoW is way too esportified retarded nigger buzzword
>>722501792>attack my character every single post>get mad when I do it a single timeThin skinned little bitch
>Endgame is either addon simon says raiding>Or tranny speedrunning dungeons from 4 expansions ago>WhY ArE WE BleEdINg SuBz
>>722501832dumbing down the rotations and classes will fix literally none of those problems
QUIT MAKING FUN OF THE NEW RACES DANCE CHUDS IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE ON FENTANYL
>>722501770Their inability to design proper fights has nothing to do with addons. What kind of retards are these designers that they get outplayed by a fucking script EVERY SINGLE TIME.
>>722501873>I played WoW before modern type of full autopilot addons.there is no such thingbut vanilla wow DID have healing and dispel addons that played the game for you, until blizzard removed that functionality
>>722501909>thinks getting called a retard on 4chan is "attacking his character">calls others thin skinnedkek
>>722501931>heya hoya heya hoya heya hoya heya hoya heya hoyawow bit racist innit geeze blizz cmon now
>>722501931
>>722498309they literally have an option to cast all your rotations for you at only a .2 sec cooldown so you can just spam one button all day and virtually do as well as anyone else.
>>722501873>full autopilot addons.What are those addons? I need to set my character for farming when i'm at work. That sounds pretty great.
>>722502026Holy SOUL.Classic MMOs are back on the menu.
>>722497501WOW IS SO BACK BROS!
>>722502026>straight up lying like a faggotthe one button rotation is so bad its actually broken for a few specs and it doesn't do anything near proper damage its for braindead LFR retards at best, or doing
>>722502010you could say......HE'S HAVING A BLAST!
>>722502140
>>722502145>its for braindead LFR retards at best, or doingLOL no fucking shit, dumbass.
>>722501935Well I never claimed they were competent
Here's the least linear map i've seen so far looking through the maps
>>722497501its not even a hard game wtf lol.
>>722499847>identify the armor typeAll plate.>class of each set.The faggot class.
>>722501701wrath dungeons loop back to the front, they might look nonlinear but they aren't
>>722502145>or doing"old content while watching netflix" how the fuck did that get eaten
>>722501959I've always only played with laid back casual guilds. You get the funniest stories with them.The moment Blizzard turned WoW into a job I quit.
>>722502271because you're too busy watching netflix to finish basic shit like writing out a sentence.
>>722498343This but only Star Wars ERP. You be Anakin I will be Padme begging you to spare the younglings and then you will force choke me and we will have sex on the corpse of the younglings
>>722500380Brother you did not read a single fucking thing I said
Did they get rid of Mana yet?
Time to revolutionize WoW and turn it into EQ/FFXI.I will buy your game then.
>>722497501>he thinks it's for xbox and not mobilengmi
>>722501926Together with killing addons it can make some difference. Problem is blizzard refuses to touch elephant in the room which is 0.1% mythic raids and m+ autism.
>>722502343you get the same experience in real guilds except you can actually enjoy playing the game toobut (you) arent good enough to be in a real guild
Retail was already braindead even for brand new playerswhat the actual fuck
>>722502197Is this a real cutscene?Are they just spinning characters around on turntables?
>>722502214>you can do as well as everyone else>its for braindead LFR retards>no fucking shit, dumbassAre you fucking retarded? (its rhetorical, we all know the answer)
>>722502483Small indie dev, chud. Trans rights are human rights.
>>722500569rotations are pre-baked into classes in FFXIV though, which is what im saying should not happen.
>>722502509theres some retard itt that's just contradicting himself to get (yous) and shit up the placeyou expecting anything else from 4chan after the hack revealed its 90% bots and jeets is the retarded part
>>722498309>How much easier can you make this game?Most classes require 2-3 buttons to play sub-optimally but still "fine". But the new talent trees added so many procs and passives so that "it's optimal to use this skill only when you have X resources and Y buff but Z ability is off cooldown and you have at least 1 charge of Q ability but no more than 3" It's overcomplicated and unfun and shallow at the same time. It's kind of amazing in a weird way.
>>722502483It's real, and objectively bad, but what these threads won't post are the actually really fluid and nice-looking cutscenes using the in-game engine with custom animations and lipsyncing. Not the rendered ones, but the ones they've been doing recently. Why these exist like that webm are beyond me though, they might as well just play it out in-game if they don't have the time to make it look good.
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>>722497501why are you saying only on xbox? probably in PS too, plus on steam, and that means steam deck official compatibility
Is this an attempt from Microsoft to make gamepass relevant?
>>722502010what gives it that nigger aura
2005-2010 WoW was so impactful that trannies still think they will get some recognition in current year for that slop content.Pretty sad.
>>722497501>huehuehue for everyoneDead game.I'm playing Classic and shit is so empty. All they had to do was keep out trannies, women and brownoids and their golden age might've gone for much much longer. But instead you get characters talking about feefees, the tiring strong women tropes galore and faggot homo characters coupled with TERRIBLE art design. Which looks generic at best, AI puke the rest of the time.People don't even answer you. Everyone is fearful of being banned or just snobbish. Fucking NPCs. I've yelled a bunch of things and have yet to be banned and if they do ban me I will never touch WoW again.MMORPGs just can't be done anymore. 20 years ago every MMO was full of people (even the crappy ones like KAL Online/Knight Online), now every MMO dies within months if not weeks. Just what happened to the zeitgeist. I'm too dumb to figure it out. I know a big deal is social medias but don't people care about immersing themselves in fantastical worlds?
>>722501152Nexus is non-linear in the same way that Ocarina of Time is non-linear if you enter and exit dodongo's cavern to get the bomb bag so you can do Jabu-Jabu first. Yeah you can technically do the bosses there in any order but there's blatantly an order that was intended by the devs and there's no reason for players to deviate from it at all unless they're being autistic. Same goes for every other dungeon in WotLK. They're nothing like BRD where there's like 4 entire routes that you can take from the entrance to get to the end.
>>722497501Boggles my mind that FFXIV is apparently doing even worse than WOW. What the hell is going on with MMOs?
>>722503126Genz and on don't give a single FUCK about MMOs and the actual generation that made them big has already started to move on
The concept of a "rotation" is so fucking retarded. It really damaged the game's identity into this big ball of pure autism for minmaxing and trivialized the concept of getting cool new abilities as you leveled up.
Any game that let's a class get as fucking bloated as enhancement shaman needs someone in the office hitting people with a fucking newspaper yelling "STOP IT, FAGGOT."
>>722498309retail is too complicated>t. feral
>>722503225It's always funny to me when /v/ claims that zoomers ruined MMOs when the vast majority of their existing audience that still cares are the same ones that have been playing them from day 1.
>>722503371>/v/ claims that zoomers ruined MMOsThat makes sense since nobody on /v/ play video games.
Why don't they just make finite length single player games? Why does it all have to be multiplayer?Can't they just make an action game, but in the warcraft universe? Maybe contract it to a Korean company like Shift Up?
>>722503470>Why don't they just make finite length single player gamesThey don't have the talent. They have ran every IP they got to the ground in the last decade. An considering the current indie stuido landscape, no one with actual talent would join a shithole like blizzard.
>>722503470Fuck off, i want my virtual escapsm worlds, go be normalfag somewhere else.
>>722503470>why don't they make single player games when people are retarded enough to pay the price of an indie game a month to play the same shit for a yeargee bill its a real headscratcher
>>722503615>virtual escapism>you end up dealing with retards in raiding or speed running dungeons with tranny retardsim guessing you're 'escaping' from the fact that you don't pass
>>722503371>zoomers ruined MMOsNot sure if you are aware but MMO stand for MASSIVELY multiplayer online. Without enough people the game just turns into a single player game with chat.Zoomers not caring about these kind of games, the games just die, because the older generation that played them is slowly dying off. Some people were 30-40 in 2005 playing WoW or whatever. Not everyone was a teen or early 20 something. Half of those that played it back in the day are already dead or just too old to do it anymore.
>>722503470Sink cost retards are willing to pay full price for whatever blizz shits out on their plate every other year so why would they bother?
>>722503282They should have hidden as much information as possible from the players. Keep the math and minmaxing out from the game, same with all the addons showing information for everything etc.
>>722503282I like to press random buttons in video games too.
>>722503905>if my blinky lights simon says fischer price UI doesn't tell me what to push when, it's random
>>722503752nah it should all be in game not a wiki, rather than add a good UI they just delete mechanics from the game
>>722503964>simon saysThat's why I press random buttons. I fuck rules baby. Rotations? I'm free man brother.
>>722497501X|SISTER here, why would I want to be one of those midgets?
>>722499843>>722499692>wow>complicatedholy fuck
Bot thread.
>>722503126The primary draw of MMOs was the novelty of mass sociability over the internet. To Zoomers and Gen Alphas who literally grew up with social media, it's the norm.You take away the social aspect from MMOs, there's very little that stands up.
>>722504234Cry more.
>>722503752Why? So no one can find out how shit you are at the game? Damage meters are still a thing and you will still die standing in fire.
>>722501396BRS is two straight lines. and BRD shouldn't count as a dungeon as its too different than the rest of the content we call dungeons. instanced zone is a better fit
>>722504329Going by feel is so much more fun.
>>722503716What even is your point here with regards to what I posted? I said that zoomers primarily don't give a fuck about MMOs, you go into any of them and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that isn't 30+ and is actually new to the genre. >Without enough people the game just turns into a single player game with chat.Which is funny because for how much MMOs have devolved into lobby simulators where you barely have to talk to others, this was exactly what the core audience for MMOs (i.e., the same fucking ones that kept playing) were asking for and fully embraced.
>>722504448You should try gacha
>mfw 12.2 brings back addons and unprunes classes and blizzard has to admit their little experiment was a failure
>>722504564stonewalling addons is easier than supporting them. so no
Why don't they do this with Overwatch too? Just give every hero autoaim, wee combat for everyone
>>722504329So autists have a stroke trying to optimize it. The less visible numbers and bare mechanics are readily available to parse the better the game is. As soon as math becomes publicly available it ceases to be a game and becomes math equation to solve, which always removes any sense of authenticity and fun.WoW was the best in vanilla when everyone was shit and almost nobody knew any better.
I'm looking forward to the console port so I can eventually play it
>>722504614blizzard pulled a 180 with SL when the subs started to bleed. the second players start to realize they can't do mythic+, raids and they suck even worse at pvp because their precious addons are not working, they'll quit and Ion will have to revert all changes.
come to pandaria, white man
> A console that might even be around for much longer as the entire brand is now dying.Just two more weeks
>>722504721>WoW was the best in vanilla when everyone was shit and almost nobody knew any better.Classic is right there for you to be shit in.
>>722497501>approachability and combat for everyoneHow can anyone say a stupid sentence with a straight face?More impressively, how can WoW players hear it and be... excited about it?
>>722504721Exactly. Even Thottbot started hurting the game. The less information available the better.
>>722504960>how can WoW players hear it and be... excited about it?Proper players aren't. Pet battlers and transmog trannies are.
>>722504298As a kid I would log into Ragnarok Online just to chat with people but as an adult everything is on Discord and then the VG guild I'm in gets overthrown by a private ERP faction
>>722504721great points but the autistic zoomer you're talking to will never understand the soul of early years of vanilla WoW. ignorance was truly bliss and we became so much lesser for all the datamining.
>>722504761the people who are truly interested in pushing mythics will not be significantly hindered by lack of addons, especially if they will be making encounters easier to compensate.its the 70% that the single button assistant was a dps increase for that will be hindered most by airhorn mods disappearing. the people that only 'care' because they don't have to put in the effort. these are the same people who will kick suboptimal classes from heroic dungeon pugs and aren't worth catering to. but they won't unsub, they've spent too much money
>>722504998>The less information available the better.That will NEVER be a thing in this day and age nigger. Get with the fucking times. Your retarded MMO genre is already on the verge of collapse as is.
>>722504721Is this you >>722501959 ?
>>722504958Except nobody is shit in classic and everyone knows better, it is solved mummy of a game, especially in blizzard version of it.
>>722505085>zoomerThere is not a single zoomer wasting time playing this shit. Wake up already. You are fighting with your shadow.
MMO is such a garbage genre. I find it odd that /v/ is still obsessed over WoW after all these years.
The game was better before the rotation autism.
>>722504721But then how would you even know what you're doing? Do you demand racing games hide the speedo and tacho on the cars because some sperg minmaxes a race line?
Seeing Nu-WoW feels like watching a beautiful young girl turn into a plastic bimbo toilet.
>As soon as math becomes publicly available itI love mmo RPG games without stats, builds, numbers, itemization too!
>>722504802I wish pandaren girls were real
There is a class design problem if a class like monk and rogue must hit more buttons than a paladin and still be worse dps.
>>722505360true, the problem is we treat paladin players like humans
>>722505251>I don't like X genre> I find it odd that /v/ is still obsessed over X genre after all these years>Why do people like what I don't like?
>>722505164It can easily be done, there just need to be a will to do it, which is the hardest part. As soon as you start sending c&d letters to retards hosting wikis and ecelebs putting up guides you will get so much bad publicity it will be herculean effort to not bend the knee over it, doubly so if you have publisher.
Making combat simpler when most classes are already around 6 to 10 keys is really funny, they're getting mogged out of the gate by FFXIV which has some 30-button hotbars on a controller setup
>>722502197They should really try to poach some of FF14's cutscene directors
There was a time when I couldn't believe that Blizzard would turn to shit. And now I am happy to see it rot.
>>722505604The fuck are you even mumbling about you delusional retard.
>As soon as you start sending c&d letters to retards hosting wikis and ecelebs putting up guides you will get so much bad publicity it will be herculean effort to not bend the knee over it, doubly so if you have publisher.What's the fuck wrong with shitters? Why are they like this? Why shitter can't just join shitter guilds? Why shitter can't just make his own party? Why?
>>722501931California fent zombie dance?
>>722505675Can't, FFXIV goes pretty much JP ONRY JP ONRY on all staffing since Squeenix wants as many in-office or provably working from a Japanese home as possible. Hence the English speakers among them like Kate Cwynar and Koji Fox are still living in Tokyo, and usually English speakers only hear about them hiring if Yoshida says it in a live-letter since the "we're hiring!" plugs only get posted to the Japanese lodestone
>>722505604Setting aside how inane that would be. How do you expect people to play a game that hides how it functions, other than by collectively observing it and talking to other people to confirm their findings, then spreading those findings?
>>722505604even if you tried to C&D because the wiki includes screenshots or something you cant do anything against pure text
>>722506171I already know how to play the game.
>>722505864Shitter guilds are premiere metaslaves though and will have a melty if you didn't follow icyveins guides.
>>722505164Obviously I understand that wiki's and guides will be made. I'm just saying they're essentially making games worse since it removes a sense of exploration and immersion.They can still minimize the amount of information you can mine from the game and display on addons etc.
>>722506320No. This is not true at all.
>>722506171Same way people did before huge wikinization and datamining of everything? FFXI and the way people thought crafting worked is good example of how myths can be made around mechanics that isn't laid bare to solve. SWG and how much there was rumors and hearsay about jedis is another one.
>>722506408>I'm just saying they're essentially making games worse since it removes a sense of exploration and immersion.Don't read guides? Are you some sort of schizo?
>>7224983094, 8 or 12 skills max (lb/rb to switch between sets of 4), attack button, jump button, use... and the sticks for move and look (basically like a shooter), and maybe a button for tabulate between targets.Or they could dumb it even more, jump, attack, that new "macro" (auto rotation) button for skils and tab, thats it, 5 buttos.
>>722506560The game devolved into the playerbase expecting you to have addons telling you what the boss was doing and what you were supposed to respond with etc. It was pure cancer.
>>722506558Bro you don't get it back in the days guides didn't exist cause I was 14 yo retard and didn't know how to play da game! Meta didn't exist! No one knew how to press buttons or how to 2+2!
>>722506690except boss fights are 10x better now than before, so clearly its improved things
>>722506690>The game devolved into the playerbase expectingNo. You're just unsocial schizoid who can't even communicate with normal people (not your imaginary playerbase) in MMO. No one is forcing you read guides. You can make your own "blind only" party or guild whatever. You can join similar type of guilds. You can find them on internet. You're ill.
>>722506558We just get to be happy we experienced that because it's not coming back sadly. Sense of exploration and immersion is just not prioritized anymore. It's either competitive autism or super casual press one button to win.
>>722507030>We just get to be happy we experienced that because it's not coming back sadly.I played FFXI retail in 2023 without any issues with similar minded people.
>>722507023>MS buys actiblizz>threads now filled with jeets and bots defending it in broken english or chatGPT speak, and the occasional tranny endgame faggotgod can we just sell a few nukes to pakistan and take the poo to the loo one final time
>>722506558Those things all existed back then. Fuck guild wars 1 had wiki links built in and gamefaqs and other cheat sites had guides and walkthrus out the ass. FFXI was also a supremely obtuse game.
>>722501152>nexus>not linearpick one
>>722497501No, you missed the issue. MMO players are dying off, zoomers are unironically too smart to fall for the MMO trap unless profoundly mentally ill (trannies), so companies are trying to compromise. It won't work. Also, consoles are done, this is about futureproofing for the inevitable phone migration if anything.
>>722507030>Sense of exploration and immersion is just not prioritized anymore.complete nonsensevanilla had NOTHING to discover, any exploration or focus on it was literally just headcanon kids came up with like mew under the truck or how to purify the corrupted ashbringerthere is significantly more RP aspects in the world and things to find when exploring than ever before
>there are already full levelling guides and story spoilers for Midnight which doesn't come out until next yearWhy do they still do this alpha shit.
>>722507217>jeets did this save me 4chan manNot surprising you can't into MMOs.
>>722507262shut the fuck up Mohammed
>>722507380Stupid shitskin.
>>722507335>>722507347
>>722507347All of those would be up a week after release anyway. This is like the people who chimp about wanting blind runs in new pokemon games.
>>722507428seethe german retard, you will be brown once your boomers die off, stupid fuck
>>722498935Since when? Legion was the last Hurrash before BfA drove crashed the plane with no survivors and Shadowlands pissed on the ashes. There were signs of course but those were ignored and the naysayers shouted down by people with suspect tastes and now we have trannies everywhere in story and out. I mean you have. Fuck that place I'm never going back for them ruining the Arathi.
>leveling guides didn't exist in EQ, FFXI, DAoClol
>>722507449nothing about that refutes what I said
>>722507485>imports nexus_map[1].jpg>draws line>posts 1742106839405381.jpg>shitskin doesn't get what's going onPalestine needs to be nuked, so I can drink your brown tears by posting the gaza crater on a daily basis.
>>722498343But enough about XIV.
ff14 has rotations that colapse and penalize dps output very hard, then you get a raid tranny yeling at you for low logs. is wow the same?
>>722502010Thanks to this dance, I'll be having a Blast™ in the upcoming World of Warcraft expansion Midnight™ preorder your copy today!
>>722498724>Zenimax is more competent than Blizzard
>>722507651There's more stuff in the game now for sure, but it's so awfully designed and everything is spoiled at release. There's also 0 difficulty leveling/questing in retail which makes it incredibly low stakes.
>>722507697>then you get a raid tranny yeling at you for low logsCool story but this is bannable in XIV.
>>722498724>Holly Longdale is obviously having sex with the higher upsShould be illegal, because she should be having sex WITH ME
>>722498309idk look at ff14
>>722507808>everything is spoiled at release.It's really not. Just don't read a guide. It's pretty simple.
>>722500446They decided they loved money more than quality and have cut all the talent to the quick.
>>722507658cope german subhuman
>>722498309Retail rotations aren't THAT simple come on now
>>722507808>everything is spoiled at releasenope tons of things are hidden and the community has to find them>There's also 0 difficulty leveling/questing in retailquesting is worthless non content in every version. Classic is piss easy (if it wasnt people wouldnt be terrible at the game) but time consuming
>>722500990
>>722508062Iran needs to be nuked too. I'm so sick of you retarded sub 80 iq shitskins.
>>722498309arcane mage was hellish. if you fuck up your 15+ button rotation then you are doing less damage than a tank.
>>722500112art team still carryingpeak
>>722498309people meme about ffxiv's damage rotations being clunky and button heavy but this is much more the case in wow. i have 3 buttons that do the exact same thing as an assassination rogue
>>722502236counter clockwise end in center.
>>722507769rather have a ball licker team than a bunch of retards at irvine
>>722497501There will be people who say WoW was never good, but holy shit am I glad I stopped playing in 2008 and now have a solo WotLK server installed on my computer to play at my leisure.
>>722498309Retail is insanely stupidly complicated anon. Wow fluctuates in complication, I think this and MOP/WOD are the peak of class complication. What happens is the need for change inflates class and boss design. Class can be in a perfect state, but the new expac Must have new features, so the new expac must change the class, this turns into a never ending spiral that can only be circumnavigated by a manual intervention whole scale simplification of game systems every now and then. Bosses is the same, there's still really only like 10ish MMO bossfight archetypes, so they have to pepper 9 million little intricacies on this particular dragon encounter for the current expac so raiders don't want to gouge their eyes outThere's always retard classes like ret pally, warrior, frost mage, but almost everything else has fallen into the realm of "niche community of like 100-1000 players who actually have any sort of result and know how to play the class" Demon Hunter is supposed to be a retard class and at the start of the expansion pack it had an 18 step opener and even now you're manually counting orbs you're collecting on the ground so you don't go over 7 and lose the reavers glaive you have up before you can spend it on the combo of chaos strike, eye beam, blade dance, vr, meta, eye beam, blade dance
>>722504298Imagine that, they might have to make the games mechanically engaging again, dare I say fun.
>>722508164>>722508062>>722507658>>722507485>>722507428>>722507380nice try you 2 kikes, not fooling me tho
>>722508610You can fuck off too, niggerlover.
>someone calls out jeets and shitskins>bots pick up on the new context and go full /pol/ spamnot sending their best
>>722508501I used to care about all those intricacies but eventually just stopped. I play for fun and use what's fun. If you follow combos and skill interactions loosely, which usually comes naturally, then it's fine. I'm never gonna be a best in the world top player so acting like it was the antithesis of fun.
>>722508501>I think this and MOP/WOD are the peak of class complicationAre MoP toddlers the lowest IQ people out there?
Is it worth trying this game in 2025 again? I have an MMO itch and I'll admit that them removing combat addons is tempting me. No I don't care about the story
>>722508382Is this a new route? During Legion we always ran clockwise
>>722508904Tbh anon I didn't play back then and I'm kinda doing guesswork a little bit since they were both right before Legion culled class bloat
>>722507262First time I did the Nexus on WotLK launch day, we went to the right and did the tree boss first.Even BRD has an optimum path to do the entire thing.
>>722507217But I'm not from pakistan. Listen you see the problem isn't in the guides or playerbase. (You)'re the problem. The terminal case of 4channing or maybe even shartying. You can't just communicate with normal people in video games. Back in good old days I played FFXI and EVE. Do you know what was so special about them? One server in EVE and only one region in XI. You play with people across the globe on the same servers. And you talk with them. Most of them didn't know or understand English. But it was true unique MMO experience and it was especially funny in FFXI because japs and game's "dark souls" style sign communication. It was fun. Now look at yourself. You're seething about jeets, pakistan and trannies because of broken english on 4chan. This is why you don't have friends in MMO.
>>722497501they're doing this because they're banning addons
>misreads post "but im not from pakistan">proceeds to sperg out about communication>'chad' AI edit that only shitskins have used since the falout and starfield threads outed them
>>722509556>Would have gotten trip 5's of truth but /v/.
>>722508668>1 response instead of 2confirmed samefag false flag poster, way to expose yourself Schlomo
>>722509556Are you okay?
I don't think mmos are gonna exist past 2035
>AeR U OkeY?BUSTA WOOF
>>722509426So you went counter clockwise, killed all the bosses and then clicked on the orbs to activate the last boss needed to finish the dungeon? Wow.>>722509624Die niggerlover. And take you pet shitskin with you six feet under.
>>722509556You will never has friends in MMO.
>>722509745Who are you qouting?
>>722498309check ff14
>>722509754They don't make massive sprawling dungeons like BRD anymore. No one does. For the last 20 years the best you'll get is you can start by going right or left.
>>722501931what the fuck is this
>>722509647In the not too distant future a new MMO will become the biggest video game in the world again. There's a gigantic opportunity gap waiting to be claimed by the developer that makes the right MMO that will become the new forever-game for hundreds of millions if not billions.
>>722501931I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this looks like the "Fentanyl"-dance
>>722509871So what you're saying is that there isn't much choice in the nexus. Just like in many other examples that >>722500891 gave? Should we move to pit of saron next and draw a line that goes from garfrost to ick, or one from ick to garfrost in order to activate the gauntlet before tyrannus? Sounds pretty linear to me, bro.
>>722499847To be fair that's impossible to do even with some vanilla sets. Blizzard's art team was always god awful at conveying material types. Anything that isn't blatantly cloth always just looks like plate, and class themes aren't even that consistent outside of warlocks and deathknights generally looking edgyStill, my guess would be>probably warlock because of the bat shoulders and the fact that it kind of looks like cloth, but there aren't many non-robe warlock sets so I can't be certain, otherwise maybe it's a rogue set.>paladin since the plumed helmet makes it look kind of dignified>warrior, but it's glowing and looks a bit edgy so maybe death knight>shaman 100% because it has an animal skull on it and it overall seems more magically themed then what hunters usually get, and those are the only two classes that get a lot of animal parts in their sets.
>>722498852>You just log in, get on your flying mount and brainlessly zoom from each of your dailie / weekly choresnobody does dailies unless they have brain damage or are literally disabled, faggots just spam m+ and raid once a week
>>722509871I just did a BRD run for the first time on nigslayer. It was raw aids and the loot was worse than the AH greens I was wearing. I now understand why Jokerd was making the jokes about methods xp crashing in there.
Court of Stars was really cool.>Lots of timesaves locked to specific professions, classes and races>The amogus minigameJust peak.
>>722497501Only people who think this is bad dont play wow (as you shouldnt wow is trash).>Okay so you press these 3 buttons to build then the 4th button to spend>ACTUALLY you need to roll 2 self buffs before you spend>ACTUALLY ACTUALLY you shouldnt press your spender before you get a proc>Also when you have all that press your 3 different cooldowns>All while doing absurd amounts of mechanics>Fucking up these burst windows is a matter of 40-50% dps loss>Meanwhile half the specs dont have to do retarded shit like snapshot rolling spells, or clipping channels, or lining up burst windows for doing the same damageAnd when you get that down they will change how your class works or you get a tier set that changes it.
>>722509754>Die niggerlover. And take you pet shitskin with you six feet under.it's your people who owned the boats
>>722510870>you're a kikeYou're a faggot.
Oh boy another WoW addons thread! Let's sum up without even reading it>People who say addons are bad for WoW admitting they are Heroic raiders at best or haven't been subbed in 10 years>Said Heroic raiders or washed up retards saying that the only reason they don't raid Mythic is not because they can't, it because they totally could if they wanted to which they don't (lol)>People saying the peak of WoW design happened to be when they played it while not realizing C-list Mythic players in modern WoW are better than HOF equivalents from a decade ago>People arguing that relying on third party developers to make WoW fun is bad on platitude alone despite no other game existing comparable to WoW to make that comparison in the first place>People simultaneously arguing that CE content is absolutely impossible ballbuster content that only the ultra-sweats could ever complete and that's why they should get fucked over AND addons trivialize CE content and they're just crutches and that's why CE players should get fucked over>No addon-hating anons EVER posting ANY proof that they play modern endgame content
>>722510998>the only people who matter are world first raiders
>>722510998High-end raiders should all be burned alive but on the other hand this is exactly the same posting pattern described as in FFXIV threads with addon concern trolling too
>>722511073Oh sorry, I forgot about you.>The argument that it's okay to fuck over Mythic raiding because Mythic raiders are a small subset of the population despite addon changes to classes and fight design only mattering to Mythic players as casuals didn't need either of those things to do their braindead faceroll content
>>722510998Nigger maybe you make it so addons arent required for mythic raiding?
>>722510998>Genuinely admitting that you can't clear without addons>Y-Y-You'd be hurting all the EPIC HARDCORE MYTHIC RAIDERS Sad desu
>>722511257Just don't use them.
>>722510998Shitters always envy to PVE and PVP GODS.
>>722511257Okay!>Remove all addons from endgame content>Have to design mechanics that are handleable for people without any addons and are simple enough to be progged on the fly without addons>You create extremely fucking boring simple fights >Nobody wants to raidgood thinking dumbfuck
>>722511473>envy tothis saarwe are the world bests
>>722511532That's called "Difficulty Settings"Hope this helped
>>722511215The game is trash because retards like Ion are catering to the 1% of mongoloids such as yourself. Remember the fucking radar in hellfire citadel during wod? I will not be installing weakaura, I will not run your gay 5man dungeons and I will not be playing your dogshit game for that matter.
>>722511682You've never actually played wow, my badgood bad though, had me going
>>722511532So you think a fight is boring if its visually identifiable whats going on and fun if an addon tells you to go left?
>>722511682>difficulty settings>modern Blizzard
>>722497501No shit? ALL pc games MUST be playable on decade old consoles. This is what you niggers vote for with your wallets when you buy cheap console slop regularly.
>>722511749Why does it matter if they do that when they have other difficties for everyone else?
>>722497501left one looks good, rest is trash
>>722511532People don't raid for the raid itself you fucking retard, they never did. As long as there is loot attached people will raid for loot and the easier then can get said loot the better. Mythic 0.01% rwf retards need not apply.
>>722511913>designing fights around addons like dbm and bigwigs is le goodWow devs are subhuman, just like the 1% of their playerbase that dictates the direction of the game. Keep pressing you PQR single button rotation button harder, retard.
>>722511668True. White boyz can't compete in video game for kids
>>722510998tldr:>I NEED ADDONS TO CLEAR HELP ME ION AHHHHHH NOOOOOOO
>>722511779>No argument>I-Interacting with the mechanics as little as possible is great design actually!You're just spouting shit you read in wowhead comments
>>722511749>People who say addons are bad for WoW admitting they are Heroic raiders at best or haven't been subbed in 10 years>>722511794>Blizzard knows addons exist>Can't make a fight with 3 basic mechanics because addons>Make a fight with 10 mechanics because with addons you can handle that>Have fun and be satisfied playing against 10 boss mechanics>Blizzard removes addons>Now they make fights with 3 basic mechanics because 10 would be impossible to learn and prog without addons>You're learning 3 fucking mechanics so it's boring If your response is "b-but that just means that addon is playing the fight for you", thanks for admitting you've never raided in your life
>>722500112Soul vs corporate soulless
>>722512068>restricting the lua api is literally genocide
>>722511215no one cares about what the mythic raiders want. they're not going to unsub
>>722512068>Bunch of shit that hasn't happened>If I don't get reminded of a mechanic every nanosecond I can't play the gameLiterally just outing yourself
>>722512313>People who say addons are bad for WoW admitting they are Heroic raiders at best or haven't been subbed in 10 years
Reminder that addons rot your brain so much that Max (mythic world first raider btw) had to look up fucking XIV mechanics of all things on youtube because he couldn't figure it out himself
If this is the reason they're apparently raping the Addon API, then that will be infuriating. Not to mention homogenization of the gameplay, classes etc. It can still be approachable, but they don't have to take away everything that makes it interesting and then undermine all the addons that allowed people to fix what Blizz fucked up before.Also >still waiting for a revision undoing the Great Censorship Patch of 2012
>>722512452>had to look up fucking XIV mechanics of all things on youtube because he couldn't figure it out himselfWhat's the issue?
Blizzard will cave and walk back a lot of these changes guaranteed. They are cowards to the incessant whining of Mythic Raiders and general sweats.
>>722504298I really don't like discord.
the addons allow itnerface changes like using the old vanilla interfaceaddons would normally be unecessary but Blizzard nuked the game so that yo uneed addons to make it playableby example you cant remove "show objectives/hide objectives" near the +/-. you need a command line that chatgpt told me to add and make your own addon because no one did it. little shits like this. OFC if blizzard wernt retards you wouldnt need addons but thats a big IF
>>722500112Admittedly T2 is pretty much the measuring stick to which all class fantasy set armor are compared. Others did okay jobs too, but there's a reason that T2 is pretty much considered THE example of differentiation by class fantasy. Which reminds me, will the T2 Redux be coming back for Anniversary this year? I read somewhere they would.
>>722512571So much for progression. Imagine getting mogged by trannies who read novels after a single fetch quest.
>I'm here for the raid invite.
Listening to non-CE raiders about addons is pointless because addon reliance never affected them. You don't need addons to play their 1 weekly M+4 key or pug HeroicListening to WF raiders about addons is pointless because they have no interest in how fun WoW is and would gleefully suck all the fun out of WoW, even for themselves, if they thought it would improve their WF rush (see: thd arguing for the return of Azerite Power because as a WF raider he has to play 24/7 for months on end anyway, AP just lets him see a progress bar while doing that even if it ruined the fun for everyone else)
>>722512571He spent the entire time hyping himself up and saying how easy it would be to clear blind because he's a mythic world first raider and WoW is the far harder game, only to get caught looking up strats afterwards by showing his Youtube search historyHe also did the whole "W-W-Woah guys, I have a crazy idea" thing
>>722512008>devs are making 1% of the content around a 1% of the playerbase and then letting the rest be causal>this is a problemThere is a whole game outisde of mythic raids you know, including a versions of said mythics that you can pick how hard you want to be. Why is that an issue here, but then people will jerk off how only 1% of people alledgely saw vanilla naxx?
>>722501396>>722501760EQ was a fucking masterclass in worldbuilding.The gameplay had its own issues, but the faction system and the way the maps, dungeons, characters etc.. were set up was beyond pretty much anything we got since. Almost every zone had multiple levels of content within it.
>>722512879mating press the panda
>>722497501>It's funny Blizzard is clearly trying to make the game playable on XBox soonThe work on X-box would at least move it to PS4-5, similar to FF14.That said, it's weird that Blizzard themselves never bothered to do that when Square did with FF11 and 14.
>>722512879HOLY SEXO
>>722498309wotlk was absolute kino as a hunterI had like 50 keybinds and was basically playing the piano
>>722512008>The 1% dictates the direction of the gamelmao what>Single button rotationoh you're one of the retards who thinks one button rotation was for CE raiders
>>722501152>a circle with a line through it is too complex for wow playersno wonder they're dumbing down the game even more
>>722512803>Imagine getting mogged by trannies who read novels after a single fetch quest.Raid trannies have bigger powerlevel. Majority of XIV population doesn't raid. And by raid I mean Savages - the content designed for DF. Japs clear Savages in DF not PF. It's not even close to mythic content (ultimates)
>Automating as much of the boss as you possibly can is good design>Handholding should be mandatory in my pinnacle endgame content!THIS is a hardcore WoW player in 2025?
>>722512986>>devs are making 1% of the content around a 1% of the playerbaseLies. The whole game is designed around these subhumans. That's why they implemented PQR directly into the game. >and then letting the rest be causalIf by casual you mean some faggot that logs into the game for 10 minutes daily, then I guess fetch quest are considered content or something. Anyways, not buying or playing the game.>>722513329Those faggots and Ion said it was good for the game on a stream. Guess I better get into the scripting scene since they don't care about it. Why press buttons when the program does it for me?
>>722497501It's going to mobile, the console release it's just an afterthought
>>722513535Yeah. Now show you clears.
>>722513556>Multiple replies in the thread fucking crying about WoW design>Babbles about delusional shit he just assumed was true in his head>Admits he doesn't even play wowholy shit kill yourself
>>722513623This saar. we demanding him proofs.
>>722512986Yeah bro, balance changes and log autism notoriously doesn't affect the rest of the game haha
>>722513623>the difficulty of the activity is meaningless because its automated>well your opinion doesn't count unless you've done the meaningless automated activitylol
>>722497501utter woke nonsense
I had no idea WoW is so hard, /v/ shitters are crying about mythic raiders.
>>722513623>YOU have to prove it>I have to prove nothing btw teeheeNo nigger, if you're so hardcore then post something
>>722513659>it isn't real>it's ma'amWhy would I play it anymore. Fell for wod and bfa. Never again.
>>722513729https://www.youtubemultiplier.com/60ec621335f4b-the-average-wow-raider-experience.phpits hard guys...please...can i be in the cool club now...
>>722513702>well your opinion doesn't countYes. Meaningless is jst a copeword. If it was truly easy and automated the clear rates would be 99%.
>>722513702>Said Heroic raiders or washed up retards saying that the only reason they don't raid Mythic is not because they can't, it because they totally could if they wanted to which they don't (lol)
>>722510998XIV proves you can design good and difficult fights that don't rely on addons (even if part of the userbase cheats with addons).
>>722513805I SEE NO PROVES WHERE ARE YOU PROVES
>>722513820>People who say addons are bad for WoW admitting they are Heroic raiders at best or haven't been subbed in 10 years
>>722513805>YOU have to prove itIt how it works. Burden of proof. This is also /v/ - Video Games.
>>722513841ahead of the curve costs less than 1 token now>>722513853i will not be held to higher standards than you hold yourself
finally they're pruning strength, agility, intellect, now there will just be "power"
>>722513981>PQR isn't real, I'm a woman (male)>the game doesn't suck and designing fights around addons is based
>All this blagging about being a mythic raider>Not a single log postedHmmmmmmmmm
>>722513998No-no. The clears, sir. Where are they? If it was easy and automated the clear rates would be high among casual population.
>>722514090No one is bragging brother. Your just talking shit without any proofs.
>>722514318>The "hardcore mythic raiders" are ESLMakes sense. Now where's your clear saar
>its so hard guys>trust me its super hard>you could never do itwell have you?>THAT DOESNT MEAN ANYTHING>YOU NEED TO POST YOUR CLEARS>MOM LOOK I TOTALLY PWNED THIS NOOB
>thread suddenly stopsShrtybros...just ask your discord for logs or something. Come on. Spice it up a litle Im pretty tired from this saar postng. Tr someth new.
>>722514527>Still no clear postedSo you haven't done it either?
>>722513671Show me how log autism changed this >>722502197 that right there is where the majority of the game is. Open world quests and story missions.
BLOODY THREAD WHERE ARE THE PROVES?!
>someone plays the game the way I don't find acceptable>STOP IT THIS INSTANTthe thread
wow's greatest defenders are like squeaky toys for the most casual vidya players
>>722514527Burden of proofCharge de la preuve立証責任举证责任Where? Doko? You said it is automated and easy.
>>722513805You're the one demanding radical changes be made, show you have an actual stake in it.
>>722514527>doesn't post logs>jerks off the manjawed tranniesNot a good look.
You faggots have been saying "WoW on consoles soon!" ever since like, 2009 or sogive it a restit will never be ported to consoles/controller play because so much of the game is designed around a mouse / mouse cursor.>but muh ConsolePort addonyes, you can play the game with a controller, but in such a gimped way that it's pretty much only good for solo questing and being a dead weight DPS in dungeons/raids.
the VA for alphinaud is about to clear Final Steps of Faith if you're interested in that sort of thingsee the cutscene that the end of the sylvanas fight ripped off
>>722514890>yes, you can play the game with a controller, but in such a gimped way that it's pretty much only good for solo questing and being a dead weight DPS in dungeons/raids.But they made a single button rotation feature in the game, so anyone could play the game competently.
I have several Legion mythic realm first but my character won't show up on the armory because I haven't subbed since BfA I guess, fucking jewish Blizzard.
>>722514815>You're the one demanding it>Blizzard are already doing itLmao nice try. You're the one shitting your pants about how mythic NEEDS squeaky toy addons, so actually prove that you meet your own arbitrary conditions and that you're not just blowing hot air
>addons being removed>raiders are pissing and shitting themselvesI have no stake in this but I wish the worst for raidfaggots lmao
they won't post parses because they know that single button rotation made it meaninglessthey won't post clears because they know addons made them meaningless
>>722515005except it gimps you buy making your global cooldown longer so nobody uses it other than actual retards or people just trying to learn a rotation before doing it normally
>>722515068This.I hope its as amusing as the M+ Tranny fallout from everyone doing delves instead of their faggot 'content'
>14:39:04 >14:39:22 >14:39:36Kek.
>>722515116God M+ is so fucking gay. I hate all the gay ass strategies and skipping packs and doing autistic fucking shortcuts. It's the wackest shit ever, I hope that content dies out.
>>722515038Blizzard are only doing it since people like you started bitching about it.
>>722515095>except it gimps you buy making your global cooldown longerIt does a proper rotation, so you're only able to be dead weight by having gimped movement mechanics. Why would anyone learn a rotation when PQR is a part of the game, the path of least resistance?
>>722515224>Still no parseI accept your concession tourist-kun
>>722515068Why? How does what they do affect you if you don't raid?
>>722515194>Some guy asspulls a mob>one DPS breaks off to help kill it>it's at 8% health left when the tank notices>tank stops>shits his pants>screeches in huehue for 20 seconds>leaves groupi cant believe people would want to do solo content or with 2-3 friends than thati just don't understand
>>722515330>Blizz introduces a feature that scarlet-letters your account as a leaver if you abandon a dungeon>First person I ever saw the warning on was a Brazil-rat tankI laughed so hard
>>722515068You don't get it, the game NEEEEEEDS weakauras that literally solve mechanics for you.
>Max SHAKING and BEGGING blizzard not to remove addons because he knows his guild is fucked without them>Meanwhile Echo has been training in the hyperbolic time chamber of FFXIV ultimates without any addons, ready to take their rightful place again in WoWTICK TOCK NAsissies
>>722515293I'll be real, I don't play retail. I just want to hold your feet to the fire since you're acting like you're in the right despite looking like you have nothing to do with it. Are you going to also admit you don't play and that the other anon was right in questioning you?
>>722515467echo is my favorite team for ultimate WFR. they always have 8 streams on
>14:44:40 >14:44:56>14:44:57 Is this awoo?
>>722515467>Buckbroken by Eden after talking about how easy XIV was>Echo pioneered a new strat They can't stop winning
>>722501396Let's add Sunken temple and stratholme
What it looks like is>Mythic raiders do their thing for years and enjoy it>Meanwhile a bunch of people who don't do mythic suddenly have a hair up their ass over it and demand shit get changed
>>722515750then why are famous mythic raiders the ones that have said removing addons would be a good thing?
>>722515750>The vast majority of the player base doesn't like forced addons and wants them removed>The 1% are pretending to be victimsYes
>>722515854PR faggotry i assume
>>722515892>vast majority who doesn't use said addons
>>722509428>SAAARR listen to me saaar. I was dere 35 years ago, and i knew the culture than sar let me tell you about it
FFXIV ultimates are easi as fck
>>722497501Wow stopped smattering after legion. Going from stopping the burning legion to fighting crabs was and is retarded
>>722515506>I-I was pretending the entire time but it was because I was doing my duty!Fucking pathetic
>>722516000Fucking zoomers. No respect for elders. Only racism.
>>722516064Hey I'm honest in my autism. Now are you going to drop the kayfabe?
>>722515989Nigger they're the most installed addons for a fucking reason, stop being obtuse
>>722515750But the mythic "raider" testing realm homos are responsible for the auto rotation button which is the biggest change the game has ever had.
>>722516035sorry but osrs makes both mythic and ultimate look like child's play
OH NO NO NO XIVkekes????https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFHaZy_Zbfo
>>722515308>why would you hate the group of subhumans that came in and ruined the game into an autistic raidfaggotry simulatorI wonder why
>>722516525isn't officially supported. and i'm honestly shocked we don't have it in 14 yet
>Blizzard designs a boss fight with 17 different mechanics that require robot levels of analysis to decipher the best course of action at all times>If someone messed up one of the 17 mechanics it's an immediate raid wipe with a 5 minute boss run back>Players will have to press their buttons in the most outstanding manner ever performed by an MMO player in mankind's history to meet the DPS requirement to not hit the berserk timer>All while dodging 10 different types of AoE attacks, damage over time, debuffs that need to be passed around, portals that need eggs carried through them, while remaining in extremely tight positioning with exactly 7 yards between players and if that exact distance is broken even once everyone diesIt's honestly no wonder the playerbase used addons. This kind of complexity in a singleplayer game would be fine, but holy shit you're expecting 20 people to do this flawlessly?
>>722516286>Claims to be epic hardcore raider>Claims to be outraged by the removal of addons>Okay post clear>Oh I don't actually play the game but-No nigger you outed yourself, go shit up a different thread
>>722515467When was the last time this dude even played the game? I remember him completely taking the credit for Gallywix, Freudian slip before correcting himself to compliment the guild.The current WFR feels like an addon arms race instead of player skill.
>>722516625How did they ruin the fetch 20 boar asses questing?
>>722500446trannies, womwn and diversity
For me? It's Goblins.
>>722516625>ruined the game into an autistic raidfaggotry simulatorGame isn't ruined. You can ERP all day if you want.
>>722516675No. It's clear you aremotivated by spite
>>722515467echo got bodied by limit 3 raid tiers in a row lmaoand it would have been 5 if they didnt cheat on Fyrakkxiv rots your brain
>>722516815pretty good slop but the face is still slightly too cutsey. needs that joizee makeup
>>722515989>vast majority doesn't use weak aurascolossal retard
>>722516675That was the other anon, I just wanted you to actually post logs since nobody ever does.
we're playing Ascension Classic+
>>722514527erm I DO have a mythic archimonde kill pre nerf
I'm a Level 7 Undead Mage sitting around at Brill watching as people go by ignoring my questions like they are not playing a multiplayer game and then get sad their game is dying.
I wonder what happens to the guys that made a living off of developing addons
Man Epoch died fast as fuck huh. Like 8000 players 2-3 weeks ago, new peak is less than 1000....
>>722517164artist?
>>722517164Wow is that a new emote?
>>722517282now he's posting things without context. udderly mind broken
>>722517069A)They start making addons for some other gameB)Blizzard caves in and doubles back their addon decisionsC)They start collecting unemployment checksTake your pick.
>>722517335cop tranny
>>722517282>Uses addon in clear>Gets universally ridiculedAs it should be, yes
>>722517282What the fuck happened to WoW
>Remove addons>Won't be making new pet battles>But have shitty housing
>>722517391https://www.ebay.com/b/Automatic-Transmissions-for-2011-Ford-Crown-Victoria/171115/bn_7062179629
>>722517391>now he sees tranny police outside his window
>>722517524Very nice car sir
>>722517573Only US trannies play XIV. My country doesn't have trannies. This is why yall insult my race.XIVtroons.
>>722517760>out of nowhere XIVRent free. I suggest getting help from a therapist.
>>722517410>the trannies that jerk off yoshitp seethe about addon bulls>then their game dies because no criticism for the retard jap devslmao
>>722517862>bullsA freudian slip? Much into cuckoldry?
>>722517984retard-kun...
>>722518048Yes, I know you are. Glad we sorted that out :^)
>designing fights around addons and having pqr is le good because of xivrtranniesThe absolute state of this dogshit game and the trannies who defend it.
WHOLE BENCHOD THRED NO PROVES
>>722518123modern fights are goodold fights are badwhats the confusion?
>Imagine being married, have kids and posting in this thread.Wew.
>>722518332dilate
>>722518419unlike you Im not a tranny
>>722518508Okay eunuch.
>>722502010from this
mobile WoW? is it possible?
>>722518743No thirdworlder you won't ruin video games even more, get a fucking PC.
>>722519429The game already has auto rotation and it looks like mobile jeetdroid garbage anyways.
>>722519836nu wow, yesoriginal wow, no
>>722520012lollmaoshitnilla is way closer to a mobile game
>>722520051Those wod disney models look like jeetdroid slop.
>>722520051If only you knew how far ahead WoW was in its time compared to all the other games. WoW was premium as fuck compared to GW1, Flyff, EQ, Silkroad, etc. It was and still is so fluid and responsive. It's world was lush and alive. There was history of things or referrences to WCIII all around you. It was magical.It was THE MMORPG.I remember the first time I ran into a Ziggurat only to discover I could actually go inside. My mind was blown. No MMORPG had this depth back then.
>>722520458>It's world was lush and aliveno it wasnt lmaotheres NOTHING alive in vanilla, the world is incredibly empty and shallow> My mind was blown. No MMORPG had this depth back then.you didnt play EQ and it shows
>the first time i walked inside of this tiny square with a retard standing inside it it blew my mind>Meanwhile DAOC had entire un-instanced dungeons
>>722521220>no it wasnt lmao>theres NOTHING alive in vanilla, the world is incredibly empty and shallowIt was way more packed than the shit I had to play because I wasn't allowed to play WoW and could only watch it on YT until 2010 when I finally got my own bank account and played the shit out of WoW for 6 months straight and had a blast.>you didnt play EQ and it showsNo because it looked like the shit I was stuck playing so I didn't bother looking at it any further than that one YT video way back in 2007 or whenever.>the first time i walked inside of this tiny square with a retard standing inside it it blew my mindI loved Warcraft III and finished it god who knows how many times so yes, this was big deal to me.I also used to make my own maps for personal use and I remember even playing with switching models or altering them. I went pretty deep into it back in the day.>Meanwhile DAOC had entire un-instanced dungeonsNever heard of it.
so why didn't those guys post their logs? they were so adamant that addons being removed from the game would harm it and it would have helped their argument immensely if they'd have posted a simple screenshot
>>722522712>thinking marketing jeets and shitposting faggots actually play games, and at a competent* level no less
I miss female pandaren so much
>>722522471>all my opinions are from watching youtube not playing gameslmaozoomers are so fucked in the head its unreal
>>722523657Here's a quick list of games I remember playing on my PC back in 2005-2009.>AGE OF MYTHOLOGY>WARCRAFT III>SILKROAD ONLINE>GUILD WARS 1>FIESTA ONLINE>9 DRAGONS>2 MOOMS>RAPPELZ>KAL ONLINE>KNIGHT ONLINE>AGE OF EMPIRES II>BATTLEFIELD VIETNAM>COMMAND & CONQUER RED ALERT TIBERIAN SUN GENERALS, III AND 4>MASTERS OF ORION>CIV II AND III>BLACK AND WHITE 1 AND 2>KNIGHTS AND MERCHANTS>HEROES IIIetc
>>722508328because you're bad at the game
>>722524130slav?
>>722524234Nah, I'm Western European.
>>722524494lmao its a pole
>>722512571>>722512803>>722512940>>722515467
>>722497501>Game gets dumbed down>Uses WA and a dozen of other plugins so he can play
>>722525563>"I think we shouldn't use the Limit Break bros I just have the World First 6th sense, trust me"
