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Why did the n64 age so bad? Even games like mario 64 are a hideous blurry laggy mess with shit controls compared to klonoa
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>>722500270
When is the last time you challenged a friend to couch multiplayer Goldeneye & Mario Kart 64
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games don't age you fucking retarded zoomer
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>>722500417
>uhhhh ackually technically...
Neck yourself autist
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>being surprised games that ran like shit aged like shit
woah...
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>>722500402
Within the last 2 years for MK64. It was right after we played the original Mario Kart and he thought MK64 was a significant improvement.
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>>722500417
This. The Shitty4 always sucked ass
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>>722500270
>Written by woman
Opinion into the fucking garbage.
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GoldenEye really is something that only can be appreciated at the time it released.
Almost every FPS released after trumps it
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>>722500270
>CBR

Retarded faggot site.
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>>722500270
>mario 64
29 years old and still best in class. How did they do it?
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>>722500924
Not really. You have a couple more good Bond games, Perfect Dark, and Timesplitters. After that FPS games abandoned the multi objective format and went totally on rails in CoD, Halo, and a couple Half Life games.
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Maybe Goldeneye just because fps on console is jank as fuck to begin with but everything else? Naaaaah.
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>>722500924
Goldeneye was only ever impressive for tendies because they had never played any other FPS games. Quake came out a year prior and it has aged infinitely better.
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>>722501194
>Quake came out a year prior and it has aged infinitely better.
Clearly not, since nobody gives a shit about your boomer shooter anymore.
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>>722501194
lol nobody plays quake
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>>722501194
Quake, Duke3D and turok are on both PC and N64. That doesn't change the fact that goldeneye 007 is still a great game.
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>>722500270
n64 is the only retro console I struggle to go back to. PlayStation, Saturn, PC Engine, Famicom, you name it I play em all but 64? I boot a game up and in 10 minutes my brain is glazing over and I'm nodding off. They're not good games. Gen X was on too many drugs in the 90s, these games blow chunks.
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>>722501265
I’m not even a Quakefag but you’re genuinely delusional if you think that Goldeneye has aged better than it. Even Doom which was 3 years old when Goldeneye came out has aged better.
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>>722501194
no one cares about doomslop, your shitty proto assfaggots, or any other mediocre dogshit """"classic"""" pc game. your entire platform was worthless until 2012, pclard
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>>722500270
It's the same games thought "unplayable" by the exact same audience when it was released. The only difference is "NINTENDO!? FUCK YOU!!" which, unremarkably, remains present in 2025.

Your thread is now hidden.
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I think this is the list. Im not going to follow the link to check.
Turok: Dinosaur Hunter
Jet Force Gemini
Doom 64
Conker's Bad Fur Day
GoldenEye 007
The Original Mario Party
Superman 64
Mission Impossible
Command & Conquer
Ogre Battle 64: Person of Lordly Caliber
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Hasn't this already been established? Every time someone asks about Goldeneye they're told to play the PC emulation of it because it controls better.
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>>722501413
>Even Doom which was 3 years old when Goldeneye came out has aged better.
We are reaching peak retardation
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>>722501413
Remember a few years ago when goldeneye was coming out on switch and xbone and every goldeneye fag was bragging about how the world is gonna see how it's really done? Then it came out and was an improved version of the game but everyone instantly decided it was shit.
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>>722501194
Goldeneye is still played and loved today, meanwhile all the PC players moved from Quake to play gacha
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>>722501413
Quake sucks, the engine is good and that part is more lasting than Goldeneye but Quake sucks.
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>>722501432
TRVKE. Peecee only became relevant when it could emulate superior 64 games in 2012, and it’s still to
O weak to play most accurately.
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I just hated the controls on the switch versions
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>>722500270
Goldeneye was unplayable crap even back in the 90s. Everything else is fine
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>>722500270
>I believe clickbait
I'm so sorry for your profound mental retardation, OP.
As I am ashamed of the autism which forces me to respond to your low-quality post instead of allowing you to be wrong.
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>>722501554
>Goldeneye is still played and loved today,
lol no
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Space Station Silicon Valley is a 10/10 still
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>>722501517
Yes, that's why there's still a huge active mod community and games still being made in the doom everyone like Selaco. Where are all the cool new Goldeneye engine games?
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>le heckin shiny graphics!
filtered
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>>722501786
>that's why there's still a huge active mod community
We are talking about the vanilla game, DOOM is so dogshit it needs mods just to be PLAYABLE
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>>722501194
I liked the golden eye on the ps2 I played co op wiith my brothers the powers were more fun than cod
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>>722500270
Playing Goemon now and its great.
Also DK, Mario 64, Zelda still hold their own
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Its completely ridiculous to say Zelda OOT is unplayable today. Its controls basically the same as a Dark Souls game. You click to target the enemy and strafe around them.
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>>722500270
changing the controls in the emulator is kind of annoying but its not so bad after i wanted to get one of the 64 style controllers but i was worried it would be garbage and a waste of money
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four player splitscreen at 12fps with one analog stick just doesn't hit right in 2025
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Zelda looks better on Switch 2
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This is their lists:
10. Yoshi's Story (shit gameplay)
9. Space Station Silicon Valley (buggy)
8. Mario Kart 64 (weak entry with bad tracks)
7. Excitebike 64 (repetitive with shit performance)
6. Turok (fog and shit controls)
5. Jet Force Gemini (shit controls)
4. Doom 64 (too dark)
3. Conker's Bad Fur Day (shit gameplay)
2. Goldeneye (shit graphics, shit controls, shit performance)
1. Mario Party (blisters)
This list is a joke.
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>>722502187
yea we don't need split screen to reach 12fps now
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Hmm Curious. Then how is it that most of my favourite games are from the n64 and ps1 gen or beforehand?
Zelda OOT and MM
Mario 64
Starfox 64
Metal Gear Solid 1
Resident Evil 1,2 and 3
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>>722501194
Quake had great movement but I actually got issues with just how much fucking health everything had because they couldn't trust pcs at the time to have very many creatures in maps so they had to beef up their health to compensate. I think Half life was when you really started to see greatness in non sprite based shooters
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I don't give a single shit about Goldeneye, but Mario Kart 64 plays just fine.
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>>722500270
Everything has aged poorly.
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>>722502426
Barney Boys are just a bunch of faggots
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>>722502426
Ok, that's a decent list overall.
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>>722502710
People say that but then watch old Top Gear episodes instead of the ones with... not-Clarkson/Hammond/May
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>>722502426
Kart has great tracks though, there's a reason their Rainbow Road got brought back, and I thought JFG was pretty decent on control scheme for a tps on the 64
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Crap like Assassin's Creed feel dated even though they're brand new.
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>>722502426
>no Banjo Kazooie
I wish that Jontron video was never made. It took 1 video for revisionists to believe that garbage was enjoyable.
>>722501981
>take 3 steps then backtrack to the barrel still holds its own
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I've never understood the logic behind saying a 30 game is bad because it has bad graphics.
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>>722501194
you just know /v/ is nintendogaf by just the reply to this post.
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>>722500270
Zoomers literally can't play these old school games because they're "too hard" and don't hold your hand like new titles.

When's the last time you saw a zoomer or younger go through Ghosts n Goblins, Ninja Gaiden trilogy, etc? You fucking haven't because they can't.
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>>722503874
this generation is fucked because they cant even use toasters too
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>>722503159
it is because it does
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>>722500270
Hot take: N64 games always kind of sucked.

How many N64 games did you really hear anybody talk about? There was Mario 64, there were the two Zelda titles, there was Goldeneye. Any maybe you heard about Star Fox 64. But anything else? Zelda's best gimmick was the Z-targetting control method, which became irrelevant once people started using twinsticks for camera control. And Goldeneye was big because it was a FPS on a console controller. Most games on N64 were considered good because of Nintendo cope, since the system didn't have many games on it.

It was a fine system, but the library selection was always crap and a lot of the most revolutionary aspects have been overshadowed by today's metrics. It's not surprising that there isn't much reason to still play it outside Super Mario 64 speedruns.
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I had a N64 when it came out and iwas 12.
I polayed ooT like 4 times, MAreio 64, Mario KArt 64, lylat Wars (the german version was called this its called Star Fox 64) atleast 12 times

i wouldnt play any of thgese games today because they aged TERRIBLY
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>>722500402
Mk64 was a staple of beerio kart for years. The dated controls and low fps make goldeneye a tougher game. Smash 64 was a popular one amongst friends too.
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How come they endure, nay, thrive even 30 years later?
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Mario 64 and the Zeldas have aged very well.

Goldeneye is basically unplayable on modern gamepads and was only hailed as a masterpiece because it was the first console FPS, it's just not that fun, meanwhile in OOT you can still appreciate the design of basically all of the Adult Link dungeons even in 2025.
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>>722500270
mk64 is still the best mk
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>>722506216
'cuz when you shoot people with a red shell they go flying high up into the air, possibly over a railing and into a pit. It's like snowboard kids, it's satisfying.
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>>722500417
this. it either always sucked or was always good.
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How long until Gamecube games are unplayable bros?
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>>722506808
ca minus 24 years
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>>722500270
Not unplayable just unbearable dogshit compared to what we have today.
T. zoomer
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>>722500270
and this is why these niggers deserve to lose their jobs
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>>722500402
Like 5 years ago
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>>722500270
Honest question: how can any grown adult tolerate playing sm64 for more than a few minutes?
Mario screams with each button you press.
Music consists of high-pitched doots and beeps.
Everything about this game feels infantile, in the way you'd feel when watching a cartoon made for toddlers.
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>>722501194
They hated him because he spoke the truth
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>>722507374
We used to make fun of people like you here. I don't know what changed to allow your kind to breed.
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I would say yes most N64 games aged badly but Mario 64 and Zelda OOT/MM are still fine.
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>>722507497
Electionfags priding themselves on their own shit opinions
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>>722507497
>AD HOMINEM
>NO ARGUMENT
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>>722507374
>how can any grown adult tolerate playing sm64 for more than a few minutes?
not everyone develops crippling autism as they age.
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>>722500270
Aren’t all games unplayable to these journalists?
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>>722500270
They are perfectly playable after you play them for a couple hours and get used to them. Playing on a CRT helps with the graphics.
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>>722502086
It's more the camera that's unpleasant than the controls. The controls are only annoying later on when you're constantly swapping items. The Water Temple is infamous for a reason.
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>>722507497
There's a difference between a game like Spyro and SM64. Both are made for children, but the former doesn't have that infantile audiovisual design tailored to grab attention of toddlers.
But of course it's easier for you to make a strawman like "if you find sm64 infantile you must only like mature shooter games" because you'd have no argument to make otherwise.
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>>722508045
Bro literally has an autism tantrum because of bing bing wahoos.
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>>722501404
They went all in with 3D graphics when the technology just wasn't there yet. 3D improved by leaps and bounds in just a few years and by the next generation we were playing games that made the N64 feel 100 years old.

At least with the PS1 you had CD's that allowed for high quality audio and high resolution textures with pre rendered backgrounds and full motion video that is very nostalgic today, even if the 3D graphics weren't as good as the N64.
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>>722500917
this

"literally unplayable" translates to "I refuse to play this"
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>>722503159
Not just the graphics. The gameplay is really rough as well. The physics is too primitive to make something like a 3D platforms work, so trying to play Mario or Donkey Kong is needlessly frustrating. It's made worse by the retarded controller design with the shitty analog stick.
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>>722501194
This is one of the least controversial opinions I've seen. Its like pretending doom doesn't surpass goldeneye. PC used to be practically defined by first person perspective in its major releases. Is it that shocking they're better at it?
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>>722500270
Goldeneye is really fun on that 1964 emulator.
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>>722501786
>Where are all the cool new Goldeneye engine games?
You retard, Doom is easy to mod, even before the source code was made public.
>>722501882
>DOOM is so dogshit it needs mods just to be PLAYABLE
You rretard, Doom vanilla is immensely replayable.
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>>722508487
To be fair Nintendo spent like 10 months perfecting SM64's controls. If you want an early 3D game with truly atrocious physics, give Glover a go.
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>>722508498
It has a 96 on Metacritic and won GOTY awards over the likes of Symphony of the Night, Diablo, FF7.

Goldeneye is such a trivial game so it's just funny to see how much journos jacked it off back in the day.
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>>722507497
t.tendie feeling called out
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>>722508913
That seems fucking criminal, but we can still see that behavior occasionaly repeated today.
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these threads are funny.
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>>722508913
>won GOTY awards over the likes of Symphony of the Night, Diablo, FF7.
deserved.
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>>722501194
nobody even gives a shit about quake past its technical innovations in the engine. even games built on its engine would widely deviate from the original game's design. HL and other ID tech games? they didnt even bother mimicking most of its single player elements. even teh sequels deviate significantly in other directions SP wise. even the MP just sputtered away like a fart in the wind after the third game.

but goldeneye? people would rip off mechanics, from the aiming system, locational damage, or stealth aspects (alarms, camera shooting, stealth segments, etc.) from it nearly a whole decade after its release in fps games, within in its own series, and other games (medal of honor, timesplitters, perfect dark, deus ex, red faction, etc.)

its impact on game designers was far larger than quake out of sheer quantity and scale due to it being a massive hit. not sure why people pretend that it wasn't barring 'i dislike it, my bias will make me deny anything i perceive positive about it'
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The problem I have with old hardware is terrible video output. Default outputs of n64 look absolute shit, you'd have to have HDMI modded n64 to get good image, I think. Either that or I need to get an upscaler. It's the same problem with og xbox, I bought that small thing MVG recommended in his og xbox mod vid, basically very to use xbox 2 hdmi adapter or something. It's better that nintendo but it's still not something I'd like to play.
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>>722510482
the people who shills on N64 inferior ports are mostly nintendoga/v/ pisscord tourists.
And as always, the only saving grace at nintendo consoles were idSoftware and Capcom
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>>722510738
This. Gaben played Goldeneye and basically had the team revamp a bunch of shit for Half-Life (most notably the AI).
The game was a fresh new take on the FPS genre.
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>>722511074
lol
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You are forgetting the most overrated game of all time..
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>>722501490
I would maybe agree with this list. but some of them more on different accounts.. Golden eye is playable, but you'd rather play Perfect dark if it's an option.
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>>722512708
I remember playing TP and thinking "oh wow this is like they didn't understand OOT at all and thought it was just bigger maps = more fun."
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>>722500270
But OOT is millennial core
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>>722500270
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Based banjo not on the list. Literally aged like a fine wine.



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